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Col2
14-05-2025, 11:23 PM
Mcinnes is a safe option in a sense. They moaned about Neilsons style of football, aww they are in for a treat with wee dell.

I am baffled by the fact Robinson has been overlooked.

Robinson was the one to go for as he is talented and has a great recruitment record. But he is a hothead and wouldn't fit with the bowling club structure under the iron fist of Queen Anne.

badabing67
19-05-2025, 01:05 PM
He has been announced

Scottish Football – Latest SPFL & Championship News - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/scottish)

jacomo
19-05-2025, 01:12 PM
I've always been enthusiastic about the prospect of McInnes managing Hibs, his record at St Johnstone and Aberdeen (yes, even with Hearts, Hibs and Rangers in the league) is good and he's done a decent job at Killie for the most part. Got them up, kept them up, European qualification but then a big drop off this season.

However I'm not all that bothered about this. He feels a bit like a guy who's best days might just be behind him. The game moves on and maybe there are signs he hasn't quite moved with it. I think he'll do ok there, I think he'll improve them and have them in the top 6 which in this league means in the hunt for 3rd and Europe but I'm not convinced he's going to leave ourselves and Aberdeen trailing in his wake.

I predict a Jack Ross type scenario. He'll do enough for a while that any moaning is easily drowned out initially but he'll never really endear himself to the support, he'll struggle to get credit in the bank and he'll be under real pressure when he has his first bad spell. If he's still their manager in a couple of years I'll be surprised.


A few years ago McInnes was linked to The Rangers. He probably fancied another crack at managing in England or a club with a bigger budget even than them. Now he's at Gorgie.

I'm sure the money will be decent and a lot more than Killie were paying him, but his career has flatlined. You wonder how much he cares about the maroon balloons.

Up-the-slope
19-05-2025, 01:31 PM
McInnes is a great appointment for them unfortunately - one they probably should have made last time out. As others have said knows the league / other teams and has a network.

The big question I have is that he turned down Rangers as he was not the type to be coach and wanted a more traditional manager role with control of more of the club / signings etc. So I wonder how if he will work in a structure that has been trying to go down the coach / DOF / department with computers that does the recruiting? Hoping that this is where the cracks appear when the computer says 'unknown 3 rd div prospect from Finland' and He wants 30 year old who has played at Ross County for 5 years

jacomo
19-05-2025, 01:44 PM
They're so ****ing embarrassing with that stuff! Cringey as ****.


Any Hearts fan who expresses criticism of the wonderful Dr Mrs Ann Budge the multi-millionaire businesswoman visionary should be banned for life.

In fact, they should petition to divert all transfer funds towards a Massive Statue to her on the plaza / piazza, somewhere they can gather and show their gratitude and affection. It could be the Bigliest Statue in Scottish football.

Up-the-slope
19-05-2025, 01:44 PM
McInnes is a great appointment for them unfortunately - one they probably should have made last time out. As others have said knows the league / other teams and has a network.

The big question I have is that he turned down Rangers as he was not the type to be coach and wanted a more traditional manager role with control of more of the club / signings etc. So I wonder how if he will work in a structure that has been trying to go down the coach / DOF / department with computers that does the recruiting? Hoping that this is where the cracks appear when the computer says 'unknown 3 rd div prospect from Finland' and He wants 30 year old who has played at Ross County for 5 years

Just seen announcement and it is 'Head Coach' ----- goody i'm now sure there will be power struggle

Since452
19-05-2025, 02:09 PM
I think he'll be a safe enough pair of hands for them without doing anything exciting. I wanted him at Hibs on a few occasions, mainly due to the "rabbit in the headlights" managers we've appointed that have been poor, but after the season we've had with a young, vibrant manager, I'd be somewhat underwhelmed if we appointed him now.

He'll do alright there. Won't get the juices flowing though.

007
19-05-2025, 02:11 PM
He has been announced

Scottish Football – Latest SPFL & Championship News - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/scottish)

Budge back from holiday then.

Scotty Leither
19-05-2025, 02:14 PM
They do like to doth the cap, Jambos. Their grovelling, sycophantic tribute kit to the Earl of Rosebery springs to mind again. The beautiful people one but just looked like Mr Blobby. Jambos - know your place!

Yup…Rosebery was an entitled chancer as well.

One in a long line they’ve hitched their caravan up to.

jacomo
19-05-2025, 02:14 PM
As an aside, I see the scarf twirlers have made scarf twirling the key theme of their season ticket sales campaign.

"From Funnel to Tunnel"... what does this even mean??

Since452
19-05-2025, 02:15 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/tC0d6dMg/IMG-6847.jpg (https://postimg.cc/RqRn5t9r)


So, can we assume from this that the new manager will be referred to as Mr McInnes?

Like a bowling club AGM.

Whats with the "Mr" stuff? They are utterly cringe.

Billy Whizz
19-05-2025, 02:20 PM
Think Hibs will be the marker, any Jambos looking in


https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/derek-mcinnes-brutally-honest-admission-hibs-kilmarnock-boss-compliment-5035686

Stevie Reid
19-05-2025, 02:32 PM
He has been announced

Scottish Football – Latest SPFL & Championship News - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/scottish)

Always hated the ****

hibsbollah
19-05-2025, 02:38 PM
Bring it on.

Stevie Reid
19-05-2025, 02:41 PM
I've always been enthusiastic about the prospect of McInnes managing Hibs, his record at St Johnstone and Aberdeen (yes, even with Hearts, Hibs and Rangers in the league) is good and he's done a decent job at Killie for the most part. Got them up, kept them up, European qualification but then a big drop off this season.

However I'm not all that bothered about this. He feels a bit like a guy who's best days might just be behind him. The game moves on and maybe there are signs he hasn't quite moved with it. I think he'll do ok there, I think he'll improve them and have them in the top 6 which in this league means in the hunt for 3rd and Europe but I'm not convinced he's going to leave ourselves and Aberdeen trailing in his wake.

I predict a Jack Ross type scenario. He'll do enough for a while that any moaning is easily drowned out initially but he'll never really endear himself to the support, he'll struggle to get credit in the bank and he'll be under real pressure when he has his first bad spell. If he's still their manager in a couple of years I'll be surprised.

I'm the same as you in this regard PB, and have written many posts about it over the last few years.

I'd still rather they hadn't appointed him, but I do think the way he's conducted himself in the last couple of weeks has been pretty poor, and reflects very poorly on him. Prior to that I'd always thought he came across as a pretty decent character.

I'm of the opinion that he'll do well, the only grey area at the moment is how the transfers will work with their much-vaunted analytics approach. McInnes with money to spend has been a successful combination in the past, but much of his approach was simply to sign the best performing players at other Scottish teams that weren't in the OF's realm.

I do think you're right with the Jack Ross angle though. Rightly or wrongly (I think, wrongly), McInnes' pragmatic approach has left him with a lot of baggage, despite his consistency in high league finishes. A bed spell or couple of derby defeats usually means the end for Hearts managers - even those who you think have credit in the bank.

Anyway, fingers crossed he's ****ing *****.

we are hibs
19-05-2025, 03:07 PM
Just seen his comments from his press conference. Everything you would expect him to say and no doubt everything the hearts fans would be wanting to hear. A return to a talentless big physical hearts team who specialise in kicking people rather than footballs. Referenced the tight park.



They will be harder to beat next season but any half decent team with half decent players capable of playing football will get the better of them. Very limited style of football and very limited manager.

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1875M
19-05-2025, 04:11 PM
Let’s call a spade a spade here. Good, solid appointment for Hearts and McInnes is someone I’ve always wanted in for Hibs over the past few managerial appointments. No doubts he’ll improve them, make them way more physical and hard to beat. His style of football isn’t great, but his track record of winning at this level is very good. Looking forward to the Derby’s next season.

Gmack7
19-05-2025, 04:46 PM
Let’s call a spade a spade here. Good, solid appointment for Hearts and McInnes is someone I’ve always wanted in for Hibs over the past few managerial appointments. No doubts he’ll improve them, make them way more physical and hard to beat. His style of football isn’t great, but his track record of winning at this level is very good. Looking forward to the Derby’s next season.

9 away wins in 3 yesrs isn't particularly good

JeMeSouviens
19-05-2025, 04:49 PM
Let’s call a spade a spade here. Good, solid appointment for Hearts and McInnes is someone I’ve always wanted in for Hibs over the past few managerial appointments. No doubts he’ll improve them, make them way more physical and hard to beat. His style of football isn’t great, but his track record of winning at this level is very good. Looking forward to the Derby’s next season.

:agree: I think he'll make them hard to beat, especially on their weeny pitch. Hopefully their player recruitment is a shambles and they have zero patience with him.

Unseen work
19-05-2025, 04:55 PM
Let’s call a spade a spade here. Good, solid appointment for Hearts and McInnes is someone I’ve always wanted in for Hibs over the past few managerial appointments. No doubts he’ll improve them, make them way more physical and hard to beat. His style of football isn’t great, but his track record of winning at this level is very good. Looking forward to the Derby’s next season.

Agreed

He’ll want to make them a big, physical, hard to beat teams with quick and direct wingers.

Where I’m intrigued is who they try and sign and how what Mcinnes wants matches up with Bloom’s laptop.

They signed Kartum, Kabangu and Steinwender in January, I can’t see Mcinnes wanting these riskier signings. He’ll be banking on players that know the league , players he’s worked with before or his own contacts down south.

Www1875hfc
19-05-2025, 05:14 PM
His Kilmarnock squad on Sunday had
14 Scottish
2 English
1 Irish
1 Welsh
With 2 Scottish and 1 English player/players unavailable due to injury.

Not 1 foreign player.


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HIBERNIAN-0762
19-05-2025, 05:19 PM
Dreadful manager 😀

Baader
19-05-2025, 05:20 PM
Not worried at all about McInnes there. Think he's probably a yesterday's man and taken on a last big job he wouldn't have considered years ago. I'm not sure he will fit within the Budgie model there and think their fans will be complaining about dull eyebleeding football after a season and a bit.

Also read that Killie never moved one player on for money during his time there. Pretty damning if true...

Unseen work
19-05-2025, 05:39 PM
Not worried at all about McInnes there. Think he's probably a yesterday's man and taken on a last big job he wouldn't have considered years ago. I'm not sure he will fit within the Budgie model there and think their fans will be complaining about dull eyebleeding football after a season and a bit.

Also read that Killie never moved one player on for money during his time there. Pretty damning if true...

Re your last point, is it?

How often do Kilmarnock sell players for money? He’s promoted Wales who they’ve only got 300k for due to him being out of contract. David Watson would go for a fair amount if they sold him.

Guys like Ndaba would also likely attract a fee as would Danny Armstrong when he was under contract

Since452
19-05-2025, 05:41 PM
McInnes stock has fallen quite dramatically this season. If Hearts had appointed him last season after guiding Kilmarnock to Europe most of us would have been spewing. Was a no brainer for him now. A lot of Killie fans were starting to make noises about him.

Fifeshirehibs
19-05-2025, 08:20 PM
Even more dire football at a dire club. Its a divorce made in heaven.

Bishop Hibee
19-05-2025, 08:22 PM
Four year deal. It’s like McInnes printing his own money given the average incumbency of a Scottish Premiership manager. Particularly at the PBS.

He's here!
19-05-2025, 08:32 PM
Four year deal. It’s like McInnes printing his own money given the average incumbency of a Scottish Premiership manager. Particularly at the PBS.

Wow. He's driven a great deal for himself there. Of course he'll be spun as the manager they wanted all along.

Hibees1973
19-05-2025, 08:58 PM
Had a wee look on the dark side.

On the whole they seem to be behind him, which is unusual.

My feeling is McInnes is a good appointment for them at the moment. Long term though, how long will they put up with him. He is kind of yeterday's man who did a decent job at Kilmarnock in the first season, but was distinctly average this season.

Can see them being the identikit Hearts team under him, which is what they seem to want.

I'm pleased they have not appointed Robinson from St Mirren. Over the last couple of years Robinson has proved to be a better manager than McInnes with similar resources and without having a dodgy home pitch to use to their advantage.

Suppose McInnes with his Rangers background will go down well at Tiny which probably swung it his way.

andrew_dundee
19-05-2025, 09:26 PM
Four years is a long contract, which I doubt he will see out, but this is a good appointment that will make them a more serious team and harder to beat.

I know his Killie record is patchy but Aberdeen showed that with a decent budget he can get results at this level, and Hearts will give him a decent budget.

That said, I'm glad that they didn't go with Goodwin or Robinson who would have both been better choices.

Stuart93
19-05-2025, 09:35 PM
Four years is a long contract, which I doubt he will see out, but this is a good appointment that will make them a more serious team and harder to beat.

I know his Killie record is patchy but Aberdeen showed that with a decent budget he can get results at this level, and Hearts will give him a decent budget.

That said, I'm glad that they didn't go with Goodwin or Robinson who would have both been better choices.

Would maybe give you Robinson but no chance Goowdins a better option.

He’ll be a good appointment however I seem to remember their fan base turning on Neilson when he steadied the ship, something to do with his style of play.

I reckon they’ll eventually turn on mcinnes for the same reason.

Eyrie
19-05-2025, 09:49 PM
Wow. He's driven a great deal for himself there. Of course he'll be spun as the manager they wanted all along.

The "stand out candidate", despite the fact that they had the chance to appoint him earlier this season but chose Critchley instead.

I think McInnes is a decent appointment for them and hope to be wrong.

Since90+2
19-05-2025, 09:51 PM
Four year deal. It’s like McInnes printing his own money given the average incumbency of a Scottish Premiership manager. Particularly at the PBS.

It might be a 4 year deal but we have no idea what the terms of that are.

It could be he's given a set amount of compensation, say 3 or 6 months, in the event of Hearts sacking him.

HoboHarry
19-05-2025, 10:06 PM
It might be a 4 year deal but we have no idea what the terms of that are.

It could be he's given a set amount of compensation, say 3 or 6 months, in the event of Hearts sacking him.
This 3 to 6 month thing comes up all the time. Why would he sign a 4 year contract if they can sack him with a 6 month pay off? If that was true he'd be better off signing a one year rolling contract and keeping his options open for a better deal elsewhere.

Ribs1875
19-05-2025, 11:03 PM
Would maybe give you Robinson but no chance Goowdins a better option.

He’ll be a good appointment however I seem to remember their fan base turning on Neilson when he steadied the ship, something to do with his style of play.

I reckon they’ll eventually turn on mcinnes for the same reason.

Goodwin 6 months ago I'd be saying the same as you, however I think he's done well at United in a short space of time. I would prefer him over Defensive and Direct Dell. It's all opinions and hypothesis at the end of the day. I am more excited about us than I am worried about them getting a new manager especially one who is dug **** football who encapsulates everything they are about. A bunch of kick you off the park, whining, delusion and boring *******s.

tonyrougier123
20-05-2025, 12:43 AM
Mcinness will improve hearts no one should be under any doubt about that, he’ll probably have a decent budget as well to work from and no European football as a distraction while he figures it all out. Probably be in for every player we are also as that is his way, think it was his policy at Aberdeen in fact to chase the same targets as us.

JimBHibees
20-05-2025, 06:33 AM
Can see him trying to bring in Stuart Findlay and Lewis Mayo from Killie? No doubt Armstrong also. Like his Killie team they will be a hard nut to crack. Watched the press conference and BBC Brian was positively buzzing in comparison how he is with Hibs. No low blow questions like he dealt to Monty when he arrived.

Springbank
20-05-2025, 06:52 AM
If the Derby is Boyle & Bowie versus McCart & Stuart Findlay I fancy our chances already

Victor
20-05-2025, 07:02 AM
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz etc.

Billy Whizz
20-05-2025, 08:55 AM
Watched a bit of his press conference yesterday
He was asked about next season. His words were
“Jamestown will build the squad, and i’ll build the team”

Historically he’s had a British type of squad, wonder what Jamestown will throw at him

CapitalGreen
20-05-2025, 09:05 AM
Watched a bit of his press conference yesterday
He was asked about next season. His words were
“Jamestown will build the squad, and i’ll build the team”

Historically he’s had a British type of squad, wonder what Jamestown will throw at him

Liam Fox seemed to improve the team by dropping all the Jamestown players. Not one of their signings so far have been an upgrade on what they already had.

Billy Whizz
20-05-2025, 09:25 AM
Liam Fox seemed to improve the team by dropping all the Jamestown players. Not one of their signings so far have been an upgrade on what they already had.

Long may that continue, interesting times for them😀

Bostonhibby
20-05-2025, 10:22 AM
Watched a bit of his press conference yesterday
He was asked about next season. His words were
“Jamestown will build the squad, and i’ll build the team”

Historically he’s had a British type of squad, wonder what Jamestown will throw at himI'm confused, what will Mrs doctor Budge do except keep watching her asset value rise and counting the money? And has their golf guy become redundant?

Don't suppose McLaughlin or any of the other Heartsound guys will want to ask probing questions, instead of just being probed.

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Jack
20-05-2025, 10:55 AM
Watched a bit of his press conference yesterday
He was asked about next season. His words were
“Jamestown will build the squad, and i’ll build the team”

Historically he’s had a British type of squad, wonder what Jamestown will throw at him

Google translate 😅

JohnM1875
20-05-2025, 03:07 PM
“ With Brighton owner Tony Bloom also in talks over a proposed £9.86m investment into the club, who are using his analytics firm, McKinlay believes winning the Scottish Premiership title is a goal the Tynecastle Park side should believe is achievable in the future.”

Complete and utter delusion again from them.

The Tubs
20-05-2025, 03:19 PM
“ With Brighton owner Tony Bloom also in talks over a proposed £9.86m investment into the club, who are using his analytics firm, McKinlay believes winning the Scottish Premiership title is a goal the Tynecastle Park side should believe is achievable in the future.”

Complete and utter delusion again from them.

What a total prick that McKinlay guy is. Despite all Kensell's numerous faults, I'd take him everyday over that mess.

Billy Whizz
20-05-2025, 03:21 PM
What a total prick that McKinlay guy is. Despite all Kensell's numerous faults, I'd take him everyday over that mess.

Most of the Hearts support would agree with your assessment of McKinley. He’s Budge’s mouthpiece, not that she needs one

Hibs4185
20-05-2025, 03:32 PM
His Kilmarnock squad on Sunday had
14 Scottish
2 English
1 Irish
1 Welsh
With 2 Scottish and 1 English player/players unavailable due to injury.

Not 1 foreign player.


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McInnes must be a reform voter

Broken Gnome
20-05-2025, 03:34 PM
As suspected, a look around their envisaged transfer dealings on Kickback is toe-curling. Matter of time before it's MR Jamestown Analytics, tis the respect they have for the mega spreadsheet.

Hibernia&Alba
20-05-2025, 03:39 PM
“ With Brighton owner Tony Bloom also in talks over a proposed £9.86m investment into the club, who are using his analytics firm, McKinlay believes winning the Scottish Premiership title is a goal the Tynecastle Park side should believe is achievable in the future.”

Complete and utter delusion again from them.


Aw FFS :lolyam:

S4uzee
20-05-2025, 03:39 PM
“ With Brighton owner Tony Bloom also in talks over a proposed £9.86m investment into the club, who are using his analytics firm, McKinlay believes winning the Scottish Premiership title is a goal the Tynecastle Park side should believe is achievable in the future.”

Complete and utter delusion again from them.

He even managed to mention Hibs getting relegated in 2014 🤣

Since452
20-05-2025, 03:50 PM
“ With Brighton owner Tony Bloom also in talks over a proposed £9.86m investment into the club, who are using his analytics firm, McKinlay believes winning the Scottish Premiership title is a goal the Tynecastle Park side should believe is achievable in the future.”

Complete and utter delusion again from them.

Why are they like this?

makaveli1875
20-05-2025, 03:52 PM
“ With Brighton owner Tony Bloom also in talks over a proposed £9.86m investment into the club, who are using his analytics firm, McKinlay believes winning the Scottish Premiership title is a goal the Tynecastle Park side should believe is achievable in the future.”

Complete and utter delusion again from them.

That's nothing i seem to remember a previous custodian of the great pink bus shelter was going to win the champions league

Hibernia&Alba
20-05-2025, 03:58 PM
Why are they like this?

:dunno:

Screwballs

TrumpIsAPeado
20-05-2025, 04:16 PM
Why are they like this?

Chronic illness.

Ribs1875
20-05-2025, 04:24 PM
And here is the kickback comment of the day:

"The ones I know are all trotting it out too. Make no mistake, they're ****ting bricks. They know what is coming."

At present man for man we are much better than them. The only player who would stand a chance in our squad is Penrice. Unless they are spending money like they did at the start of Romanov era. Dell (who was overlooked initially for Critchley) will end up having the delusional support on his back very soon.

Even over the last 10 years when they have had periods of having the upper hand it's not been because they have been good. It's because we were awful. Folk like Halliday and Sibbick got made to look better than what they were. Our club at least have structure now the likes of MM is in to direct. They probably should have given a similar role to Liam fox to have bridged the gap between the boardroom and football staff.

CapitalGreen
20-05-2025, 04:43 PM
Why are they like this?

Humiliation fetish.

Broken Gnome
20-05-2025, 04:46 PM
And here is the kickback comment of the day:

"The ones I know are all trotting it out too. Make no mistake, they're ****ting bricks. They know what is coming."

At present man for man we are much better than them. The only player who would stand a chance in our squad is Penrice. Unless they are spending money like they did at the start of Romanov era. Dell (who was overlooked initially for Critchley) will end up having the delusional support on his back very soon.

Even over the last 10 years when they have had periods of having the upper hand it's not been because they have been good. It's because we were awful. Folk like Halliday and Sibbick got made to look better than what they were. Our club at least have structure now the likes of MM is in to direct. They probably should have given a similar role to Liam fox to have bridged the gap between the boardroom and football staff.

I'm barely caring if they swan past us next season - we don't sound like complete fannies when discussing our team. That's an eternal win in my book.

Since90+2
20-05-2025, 04:53 PM
“ With Brighton owner Tony Bloom also in talks over a proposed £9.86m investment into the club, who are using his analytics firm, McKinlay believes winning the Scottish Premiership title is a goal the Tynecastle Park side should believe is achievable in the future.”

Complete and utter delusion again from them.

They need to come out with this nonsense to keep their deluded fans on side.

It makes them feel like they're a big club when in reality we've won both cups more recently than them and are looking good for group stage European football whilst they didn't even make the top 6.

A bottom 6 club talking about winning the league. Sums them up.

Kato
20-05-2025, 04:56 PM
And here is the kickback comment of the day:

"The ones I know are all trotting it out too. Make no mistake, they're ****ting bricks. They know what is coming."

At present man for man we are much better than them. The only player who would stand a chance in our squad is Penrice. Unless they are spending money like they did at the start of Romanov era. Dell (who was overlooked initially for Critchley) will end up having the delusional support on his back very soon.

Even over the last 10 years when they have had periods of having the upper hand it's not been because they have been good. It's because we were awful. Folk like Halliday and Sibbick got made to look better than what they were. Our club at least have structure now the likes of MM is in to direct. They probably should have given a similar role to Liam fox to have bridged the gap between the boardroom and football staff.WBA in for Penrice.

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Ribs1875
20-05-2025, 05:06 PM
I'm barely caring if they swan past us next season - we don't sound like complete fannies when discussing our team. That's an eternal win in my book.

I wouldn't mind a top 6 finish, if we could win a cup and have a blast in Europe. For me that would be perfect.

Bostonhibby
20-05-2025, 05:15 PM
“ With Brighton owner Tony Bloom also in talks over a proposed £9.86m investment into the club, who are using his analytics firm, McKinlay believes winning the Scottish Premiership title is a goal the Tynecastle Park side should believe is achievable in the future.”

Complete and utter delusion again from them.Sounds like the Lady Haig poppy fund are in with a shout to finally get their hundred quid from the thieves rather than someone stepping in and paying it....

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Fanforlife
20-05-2025, 05:32 PM
He even managed to mention Hibs getting relegated in 2014 🤣A fair few of the circus acts over there are convinced that Hibs will be relegated next season and it will be a total whitewash points wise for them over us, deluded don't even cover it🤣🤣

Bostonhibby
20-05-2025, 05:38 PM
A fair few of the circus acts over there are convinced that Hibs will be relegated next season and it will be a total whitewash points wise for them over us, deluded don't even cover it[emoji1787][emoji1787]It's a very Hearts thing, all that's actually changed is they've lost the Critch and replaced him with another bottom 6 manager.

They must be in with a shout to win the world cup next time round, and the Grand National.

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Aldo
20-05-2025, 05:59 PM
It's a very Hearts thing, all that's actually changed is they've lost the Critch and replaced him with another bottom 6 manager.

They must be in with a shout to win the world cup next time round, and the Grand National.

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Bottom 6 didn’t get Critchley sacked. Failing to beat Hibs did imho.

Bostonhibby
20-05-2025, 06:02 PM
Bottom 6 didn’t get Critchley sacked. Failing to beat Hibs did imho.Double whammy it was.

Dhanda had them splitting the uglies, golf guy has them winning the title soon now they've appointed bottom 6 Kilmarnock's manager.

This time next year Rodneys......

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Aldo
20-05-2025, 06:04 PM
Double whammy it was.

Dhanda had them splitting the uglies, golf guy has them winning the title soon now they've appointed bottom 6 Kilmarnock's manager.

This time next year Rodneys......

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Let them fire away. No issues with clubs having ambition but the absolute guff spoken by McKinlay is just priceless. Long may it continue!

007
20-05-2025, 06:04 PM
This 3 to 6 month thing comes up all the time. Why would he sign a 4 year contract if they can sack him with a 6 month pay off? If that was true he'd be better off signing a one year rolling contract and keeping his options open for a better deal elsewhere.

It comes up all the time because it is fairly standard to have a clause like that. He'd sign it because that's what the parties have negotiated. Why would Hearts agree to what you've suggested? It's like any contract, all clauses are up for negotiation. Something like a 3 or 6 months pay-off may or may not have additional conditions attached to it. I recall someone posted on here when Maloney was in charge that if he didn't make top 6 then the pay-off would be less, which makes sense to me. I wouldn't be surprised if Hearts inserted a Hibs clause where they can sack a manager for less if he loses to us more than he wins.

Bostonhibby
20-05-2025, 06:06 PM
Let them fire away. No issues with clubs having ambition but the absolute guff spoken by McKinlay is just priceless. Long may it continue!This is really a form of abuse of the gullible, groomed by Romanov, milked and laughed at by the current regime.

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Since90+2
20-05-2025, 06:09 PM
It comes up all the time because it is fairly standard to have a clause like that. He'd sign it because that's what the parties have negotiated. Why would Hearts agree to what you've suggested? It's like any contract, all clauses are up for negotiation. Something like a 3 or 6 months pay-off may or may not have additional conditions attached to it. I recall someone posted on here when Maloney was in charge that if he didn't make top 6 then the pay-off would be less, which makes sense to me. I wouldn't be surprised if Hearts inserted a Hibs clause where they can sack a manager for less if he loses to us more than he wins.

Yup.

Id be amazed if a manager at McInnes' level has a full contract pay off, it will be a set number of months (what that might be is just guesswork).

Aldo
20-05-2025, 06:13 PM
This is really a form of abuse of the gullible, groomed by Romanov, milked and laughed at by the current regime.

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It is and they all beLIEve it. Lap it up etc.

A bit like the windowless wonder that’s going to take in a million quid a year. That’s all gone awfy quiet??

Long may Budge reign.

007
20-05-2025, 06:20 PM
Watched a bit of his press conference yesterday
He was asked about next season. His words were
“Jamestown will build the squad, and i’ll build the team”

Historically he’s had a British type of squad, wonder what Jamestown will throw at him

That makes it sound like he might not have final say on the transfers. We'll see when they start signing his ex-players.

Victor
20-05-2025, 06:25 PM
Liam Fox seemed to improve the team by dropping all the Jamestown players. Not one of their signings so far have been an upgrade on what they already had.

Is this true? If so why aren’t the BBC sports journalists asking probing questions about the effectiveness of Jamestown Analytics?
Oh! Wait………….

The Spaceman
20-05-2025, 06:32 PM
That makes it sound like he might not have final say on the transfers. We'll see when they start signing his ex-players.

Derek, your main objective this season is to say “Jamestown” at every possible opportunity, whether it’s relevant or not. Lost 2-0 to Hibs? Jamestown. Playing in the League Cup group stages? Jamestown. Wondering where your fake tan is? Jamestown.

HoboHarry
20-05-2025, 06:37 PM
Only good thing Jamestown ever did was give us Natalie Merchant.

Real Emerald
20-05-2025, 07:05 PM
Derek, your main objective this season is to say “Jamestown” at every possible opportunity, whether it’s relevant or not. Lost 2-0 to Hibs? Jamestown. Playing in the League Cup group stages? Jamestown. Wondering where your fake tan is? Jamestown.

It reminds me of the “strong and stable” catchphrase that Tory MPs were told to keep trotting out. If you say it enough times it must be true. Their delusion has no bounds, trotting the party line, always need to say they’re big and now Jamestown is the new thing to make them better than everyone else. That’s even though all their Jamestown signings have been average at best.

K-Zazu
20-05-2025, 07:29 PM
What happens to all the players that are under contract that haven’t been signed using Jamestown I take it they will be surplus to requirements 😂😂? Because the Jamestown guys must be better than them of course. Might create a bit of tension between the players.

matty_f
20-05-2025, 07:37 PM
I don’t know how they never learn, every session they shout about hours they’re going to do this or do that. It wasn’t long ago the fat **** was talking about welcoming the chase for third because it would be boring coasting to it all the time.

One of the journalists researched McInnes’ home record just against Hibs (obviously didn’t want to do the full record, it was selective stats, as per).

I genuinely don’t know a Hibs fan who will constantly shoot their mouth off about what we’ll do to them or what we’ll win etc.

Their support is full of the delusional ****ing idiots. No matter how many times they’re made to look like ****ing idiots, they seem more determined to prove that they’re ****ing idiots.

****ing idiots.

Real Emerald
20-05-2025, 07:38 PM
What happens to all the players that are under contract that haven’t been signed using Jamestown I take it they will be surplus to requirements 😂😂? Because the Jamestown guys must be better than them of course.

Jamestown ran them through the computer and approved them. 😉😂

They’ll probably get them a Jamestown Approved tattoo on their foreheads. They’ll need a load of ink for Shankland.

Real Emerald
20-05-2025, 07:40 PM
I don’t know how they never learn, every session they shout about hours they’re going to do this or do that. It wasn’t long ago the fat **** was talking about welcoming the chase for third because it would be boring coasting to it all the time.

One of the journalists researched McInnes’ home record just against Hibs (obviously didn’t want to do the full record, it was selective stats, as per).

I genuinely don’t know a Hibs fan who will constantly shoot their mouth off about what we’ll do to them or what we’ll win etc.

Their support is full of the delusional ****ing idiots. No matter how many times they’re made to look like ****ing idiots, they seem more determined to prove that they’re ****ing idiots.

****ing idiots.

😂👏

JimBHibees
20-05-2025, 07:47 PM
“ with brighton owner tony bloom also in talks over a proposed £9.86m investment into the club, who are using his analytics firm, mckinlay believes winning the scottish premiership title is a goal the tynecastle park side should believe is achievable in the future.”

complete and utter delusion again from them.

:faf:

Kato
20-05-2025, 07:51 PM
I don’t know how they never learn, every session they shout about hours they’re going to do this or do that. It wasn’t long ago the fat **** was talking about welcoming the chase for third because it would be boring coasting to it all the time.

One of the journalists researched McInnes’ home record just against Hibs (obviously didn’t want to do the full record, it was selective stats, as per).

I genuinely don’t know a Hibs fan who will constantly shoot their mouth off about what we’ll do to them or what we’ll win etc.

Their support is full of the delusional ****ing idiots. No matter how many times they’re made to look like ****ing idiots, they seem more determined to prove that they’re ****ing idiots.

****ing idiots.Preach

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SaulGoodman
20-05-2025, 07:56 PM
Hilarious that they think 9 million and some computer selected players will have them challenging Celtic for the title. They’re genuinely ill.


"I can already picture Derek's teams with a couple of pacey wingers, getting the ball in for Lawrence and Lawrence banging it into the net. This place would absolutely love that.

That is absolutely wild chat for a CEO to be coming out with regarding an out of contract player. Why didn’t that happen this season then, Andrew? Scored some goals against the other bottom six ***** they finished together with and all is rosey again.

Thanks for marking Iredale, Shanks.

green day
20-05-2025, 07:58 PM
“ With Brighton owner Tony Bloom also in talks over a proposed £9.86m investment into the club, who are using his analytics firm, McKinlay believes winning the Scottish Premiership title is a goal the Tynecastle Park side should believe is achievable in the future.”

Complete and utter delusion again from them.

Where is this quote from?

ancient hibee
20-05-2025, 08:01 PM
Bottom 6 didn’t get Critchley sacked. Failing to beat Hibs did imho.

That’s exactly it. It’s not the OF or winning something. They must beat us.
Don’t fancy their chances if they fill up with ex Killie 9th placers.

Aldo
20-05-2025, 08:01 PM
Where is this quote from?

McKinlay’s interview with Sky Sports posted earlier today!

Real Emerald
20-05-2025, 08:03 PM
That’s exactly it. It’s not the OF or winning something. They must beat us.
Don’t fancy their chances if they fill up with ex Killie 9th placers.

If Jamestown picks the ex Killie players then they will be brilliant, no?

green day
20-05-2025, 08:05 PM
McKinlay’s interview with Sky Sports posted earlier today!

Dear god.

I concur with everything Matty said up thread then.

Utter delusion - they wonder why most other fans think they are laughable, and it's crap like that.

Aldo
20-05-2025, 08:05 PM
If Jamestown picks the ex Killie players then they will be brilliant, no?

Will be funny to see what they say when they sign this seasons Spittals and Dhandas from Killie and try and spin it as JTA approved

Real Emerald
20-05-2025, 08:07 PM
Will be funny to see what they say when they sign this seasons Spittals and Dhandas from Killie and try and spin it as JTA approved

Comical Ali stuff, you couldn’t make it up. It’s what the big teams do. 😂

Real Emerald
20-05-2025, 08:15 PM
Hilarious that they think 9 million and some computer selected players will have them challenging Celtic for the title. They’re genuinely ill.



That is absolutely wild chat for a CEO to be coming out with regarding an out of contract player. Why didn’t that happen this season then, Andrew? Scored some goals against the other bottom six ***** they finished together with and all is rosey again.

Thanks for marking Iredale, Shanks.

If Shankland comes back after the summer looking like he’s put on another 3 stone, he’ll no be able to move from the halfway line and he’ll need two seats on their bus, probably opposite McKinlay’s two.

degenerated
20-05-2025, 08:24 PM
If Shankland comes back after the summer looking like he’s put on another 3 stone, he’ll no be able to move from the halfway line and he’ll need two seats on their bus, probably opposite McKinlay’s two.They'd need to put him and halkett at opposite ends of the bus to stop it flipping over 28824

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Billy Whizz
20-05-2025, 08:24 PM
Had a quick look, but Brighton spent the most this season on players in the English Premier League. Also the highest net spend by a considerable way


I’m sure someone will let me know if this still use Jamestown analytics. Has it helped them?


https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/einnahmenausgaben/wettbewerb/GB1#google_vignette

Alfred E Newman
20-05-2025, 08:28 PM
Where is this quote from?

Viz magazine letters page. 😂

Se7enUp
20-05-2025, 08:35 PM
Why are they like this?

Because they were utterly humiliated 7 nil in their own backyard on New Year's Day.

Se7enUp
20-05-2025, 08:37 PM
Bottom 6 didn’t get Critchley sacked. Failing to beat Hibs did imho.

This.

JeMeSouviens
20-05-2025, 08:37 PM
Only good thing Jamestown ever did was give us Natalie Merchant.

Now they’ve hooked up with 400,000 Maniacs.

Bishop Hibee
20-05-2025, 08:38 PM
Why are they like this?

Last day league losses to Killie and Dundee, 0-7 and 21/5/16.

truehibernian
20-05-2025, 08:43 PM
Watched the interview, first few minutes utter word salad, then throws Critchley under the bus, utterly embarrassing HR “revelation” that he’s learned to meet people face to face 😂, needs to really learn what the term “fine margins” means, waffles about the analytics, yet again can’t fail to have a dig at Hibs, and that he’s a pompous, fat, triple chinned, cliche riddled, deluded idiot that screams Hearts 😁

Fifeshirehibs
20-05-2025, 08:44 PM
Critchley to Mcinnes looks like they've s**t their breeks and changed their t shirt.

Since452
20-05-2025, 08:45 PM
I don’t know how they never learn, every session they shout about hours they’re going to do this or do that. It wasn’t long ago the fat **** was talking about welcoming the chase for third because it would be boring coasting to it all the time.

One of the journalists researched McInnes’ home record just against Hibs (obviously didn’t want to do the full record, it was selective stats, as per).

I genuinely don’t know a Hibs fan who will constantly shoot their mouth off about what we’ll do to them or what we’ll win etc.

Their support is full of the delusional ****ing idiots. No matter how many times they’re made to look like ****ing idiots, they seem more determined to prove that they’re ****ing idiots.

****ing idiots.

Only Hearts would run their mouths about winning the league while they're fresh out of a relegation battle. They wonder why everyone pishes themselves laughing at them when they fall flat on their face. Taking my green tinted specs off for a second, they really are a highly unlikable club.

Kato
20-05-2025, 08:49 PM
Because they were utterly humiliated 7 nil in their own backyard on New Year's Day.That's a part of the symptons.

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007
20-05-2025, 08:50 PM
“ With Brighton owner Tony Bloom also in talks over a proposed £9.86m investment into the club, who are using his analytics firm, McKinlay believes winning the Scottish Premiership title is a goal the Tynecastle Park side should believe is achievable in the future.”

Complete and utter delusion again from them.

The guy just can't help himself, always gaslighting them. It's only a few weeks ago he was apologising for having said they'd make the top 6. I hope he's at Hearts for many years to come.

https://youtu.be/UJvMN3BLl8k?si=ZRZ4nb9bVkb9It56

matty_f
20-05-2025, 08:56 PM
Hilarious that they think 9 million and some computer selected players will have them challenging Celtic for the title. They’re genuinely ill.



That is absolutely wild chat for a CEO to be coming out with regarding an out of contract player. Why didn’t that happen this season then, Andrew? Scored some goals against the other bottom six ***** they finished together with and all is rosey again.

Thanks for marking Iredale, Shanks.

It’s ****ing wild. Rangers have spent close to £200m since they started and aren’t still miles off Celtic, who - if they wanted to - could buy them tomorrow and probably not need to go into their overdraft.

What the **** have Hearts been using for recruitment up until now? I’m sure Jamestown is a cracking system, but every team with a semi decent recruitment department has access to brilliant data already, you need analysts that’s know how to use it and you need enough money to outbid the other teams who are identifying the same players as you.

It was no doubt a huge advantage when other teams were getting their heads around stats and how to use them to predict the players who will succeed without breaking the bank, but the most advanced systems from even five years ago are widespread now and there’s a finite amount of data available.

I would be amazed if Celtic’s recruitment department are not already at least on a par with Jamestown, look at their transfer activity over the last 5-10 years, they’ve performed brilliantly in the transfer market.



They’re completely delusional.

He's here!
20-05-2025, 08:57 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c148y75zx7zo

McKinlay positively gushing here about Critchley being the man to lead them forward.

Now he claims he never even met him before appointing him?!

Callum_62
20-05-2025, 08:57 PM
I'd laugh my tits off it we signed shankland

I assume it's looking like he will sign a new deal at hearts though

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HoboHarry
20-05-2025, 08:59 PM
I'd laugh my tits off it we signed shankland

I assume it's looking like he will sign a new deal at hearts this

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You wouldn't get them back, Shankland would eat them.

Mcbizz1998
20-05-2025, 09:01 PM
I'd laugh my tits off it we signed shankland

I assume it's looking like he will sign a new deal at hearts though

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Thought he was leaving this summer? They seemed to hate him.

Not In The Know
20-05-2025, 09:22 PM
Do any of the other clubs linked to Bloom constantly reference JTA in every press conference and club piece?

genuine question.

Donegal Hibby
20-05-2025, 09:24 PM
Thought he was leaving this summer? They seemed to hate him.

Doesn’t look like he can find a club , only club rumoured to be interested in him was a Turkish 2nd division team in the last window . I think he’ll end up staying there and they’ll end up bragging about it .

Pagan Hibernia
20-05-2025, 09:25 PM
"We've ended up finishing seventh, which is as good as we could do once we're in the bottom six, but after that Dundee game, we were staring at least at a play-off, and everyone saw what happened to Hibs a few years ago when they were just in the bottom six, and that was acutely in my mind.

"Thinking about what had happened to Hibs, and then them getting relegated. I understand some people might think we were hasty, but I think hindsight shows it looks like it was probably the right decision."

Bloody hell... haven't they been relegated themselves since that? Why not use that as a reference point instead? They just can't help themselves.

He also said Critchley was a very good coach but maybe just didn't quite 'get' the club and it's demands. Which loosely translated means 'he got beat by Hibs.'

OstKurve Hibs
20-05-2025, 09:46 PM
Nae derby wins in their centenary year. Get it up them !

Kato
20-05-2025, 10:21 PM
Only Hearts would run their mouths about winning the league while they're fresh out of a relegation battle. They wonder why everyone pishes themselves laughing at them when they fall flat on their face. Taking my green tinted specs off for a second, they really are a highly unlikable club.

It's the hierarchy.

Check this photo of Hibs.

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/sites/default/files/styles/maximum_size/public/2024-12/Hibs%201947-48%20League%20Championship%20winners%20w680.jpg?it ok=JVMGQDXW

Look at the nick of this set-up. All those duffers should be at the back in a line. Has to be some contrived weird-assedness.

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/sites/default/files/styles/maximum_size/public/2024-12/Hearts%201959-60%20League%20and%20League%20Cup%20winners%20w680. jpg?itok=Xs9H61Rm

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He's here!
20-05-2025, 10:42 PM
"We've ended up finishing seventh, which is as good as we could do once we're in the bottom six, but after that Dundee game, we were staring at least at a play-off, and everyone saw what happened to Hibs a few years ago when they were just in the bottom six, and that was acutely in my mind.

"Thinking about what had happened to Hibs, and then them getting relegated. I understand some people might think we were hasty, but I think hindsight shows it looks like it was probably the right decision."

Bloody hell... haven't they been relegated themselves since that? Why not use that as a reference point instead? They just can't help themselves.

He also said Critchley was a very good coach but maybe just didn't quite 'get' the club and it's demands. Which loosely translated means 'he got beat by Hibs.'

Not only relegated since then but they also went down with us in the season he bizarrely picks out to fixate on - despite the fact that in the 11 years since then numerous other clubs will have found themselves relegated after finishing in the bottom six. Choosing that particular season is a laughably desperate attempt to try and diminish the season we've just had where we left Hearts trailing by every measure.

007
20-05-2025, 10:51 PM
It's the hierarchy.

Check this photo of Hibs.

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/sites/default/files/styles/maximum_size/public/2024-12/Hibs%201947-48%20League%20Championship%20winners%20w680.jpg?it ok=JVMGQDXW

Look at the nick of this set-up. All those duffers should be at the back in a line. Has to be some contrived weird-assedness.

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/sites/default/files/styles/maximum_size/public/2024-12/Hearts%201959-60%20League%20and%20League%20Cup%20winners%20w680. jpg?itok=Xs9H61Rm

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Hearts, run (or should that be ran?) like a bowling club since 1874.

Kato
20-05-2025, 11:00 PM
Hearts, run (or should that be ran?) like a bowling club since 1874.That was a great Hearts side. Probably there best. All those throbbers trying to take centre stage.

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007
20-05-2025, 11:50 PM
That was a great Hearts side. Probably there best. All those throbbers trying to take centre stage.

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Not much has changed since then. Throbbers still running things over there. Have just listened to McKinlay say Critchley was never met face to face, interviews were done by Zoom as he was in Azerbaijan. If I was one of the 75% owners I'd be demanding to know why he was there at such a crucial time, if he's now blaming not having met Critchley as a key reason they made a mistake in appointing him.

Listened to Malky Mackay earlier on the Sun's Coffee Club saying Kit Gordon flew in from Washington and Ian Gordon from Charleston to interview him. Things like that are the difference between being professional and tinpot. It doesn't matter how good your data is if you've got clueless clowns like Budge and McKinlay making the decisions. They've even admitted that recruitment isn't one of their Sporting Director's strengths (he's a sports science guy), which I guess is why they're placing such a big reliance on the data.

Delboy's going to have his work cut out working with those 3.

Bridge hibs
21-05-2025, 04:52 AM
Doesn’t look like he can find a club , only club rumoured to be interested in him was a Turkish 2nd division team in the last window . I think he’ll end up staying there and they’ll end up bragging about it .

He could find a club sandwich though

JimBHibees
21-05-2025, 06:08 AM
"We've ended up finishing seventh, which is as good as we could do once we're in the bottom six, but after that Dundee game, we were staring at least at a play-off, and everyone saw what happened to Hibs a few years ago when they were just in the bottom six, and that was acutely in my mind.

"Thinking about what had happened to Hibs, and then them getting relegated. I understand some people might think we were hasty, but I think hindsight shows it looks like it was probably the right decision."

Bloody hell... haven't they been relegated themselves since that? Why not use that as a reference point instead? They just can't help themselves.

He also said Critchley was a very good coach but maybe just didn't quite 'get' the club and it's demands. Which loosely translated means 'he got beat by Hibs.'

WTF has Hibs got to do with them. :faf: utter weirdos. Trying to make out seventh was amazing. His lack of self awareness is staggering. Apparently he was spinning to press Critchleys interview wasn’t great then their preferred candidate dropped out then immediate back track

JimBHibees
21-05-2025, 06:11 AM
It's the hierarchy.

Check this photo of Hibs.

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/sites/default/files/styles/maximum_size/public/2024-12/Hibs%201947-48%20League%20Championship%20winners%20w680.jpg?it ok=JVMGQDXW

Look at the nick of this set-up. All those duffers should be at the back in a line. Has to be some contrived weird-assedness.

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/sites/default/files/styles/maximum_size/public/2024-12/Hearts%201959-60%20League%20and%20League%20Cup%20winners%20w680. jpg?itok=Xs9H61Rm

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Willie Bauld almost edged out the picture by a guy running a local baker shop :greengrin

Viva_Palmeiras
21-05-2025, 06:28 AM
Would be funny if he did a Mojo and diverted to The Rangers at the 11th hour :)

Aldo
21-05-2025, 06:55 AM
Not only relegated since then but they also went down with us in the season he bizarrely picks out to fixate on - despite the fact that in the 11 years since then numerous other clubs will have found themselves relegated after finishing in the bottom six. Choosing that particular season is a laughably desperate attempt to try and diminish the season we've just had where we left Hearts trailing by every measure.

Did they not make mention of Hibs when they announced Stendl as their new manager. Something in their statement about his Barnsley getting the better of Jack Ross at Sunderland. Why?

It’s all about deflect..

Bostonhibby
21-05-2025, 07:46 AM
Willie Bauld almost edged out the picture by a guy running a local baker shop :greengrinWonder if any of the blazer flashers in this pic were involved in charging the late great willie Bauld for his testimonial match ball?

Look like the type you'd need a spanner to get a threepenny bit off.

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Jones28
21-05-2025, 08:17 AM
Hilarious that they think 9 million and some computer selected players will have them challenging Celtic for the title. They’re genuinely ill.



That is absolutely wild chat for a CEO to be coming out with regarding an out of contract player. Why didn’t that happen this season then, Andrew? Scored some goals against the other bottom six ***** they finished together with and all is rosey again.

Thanks for marking Iredale, Shanks.

Lawrence.

What a bunch of gimps.

Trinity Hibee
21-05-2025, 12:02 PM
"We've ended up finishing seventh, which is as good as we could do once we're in the bottom six, but after that Dundee game, we were staring at least at a play-off, and everyone saw what happened to Hibs a few years ago when they were just in the bottom six, and that was acutely in my mind.

"Thinking about what had happened to Hibs, and then them getting relegated. I understand some people might think we were hasty, but I think hindsight shows it looks like it was probably the right decision."

Bloody hell... haven't they been relegated themselves since that? Why not use that as a reference point instead? They just can't help themselves.

He also said Critchley was a very good coach but maybe just didn't quite 'get' the club and it's demands. Which loosely translated means 'he got beat by Hibs.'

Embarrassing quotes from McKinlay. He’s always been an utter gob***** and I think many hearts fans see through his comments. If I was paying X amount per month in FOH fees, I’d be furious if this is what was serving my club. He is so out of his depth.

Long may it continue.

Jones28
21-05-2025, 12:12 PM
"We've ended up finishing seventh, which is as good as we could do once we're in the bottom six, but after that Dundee game, we were staring at least at a play-off, and everyone saw what happened to Hibs a few years ago when they were just in the bottom six, and that was acutely in my mind.

"Thinking about what had happened to Hibs, and then them getting relegated. I understand some people might think we were hasty, but I think hindsight shows it looks like it was probably the right decision."

Bloody hell... haven't they been relegated themselves since that? Why not use that as a reference point instead? They just can't help themselves.

He also said Critchley was a very good coach but maybe just didn't quite 'get' the club and it's demands. Which loosely translated means 'he got beat by Hibs.'

Imagine being so desperate to deflect from the narrative that you have to cite your city rivals who got relegated 11 years ago to try and make some sort of point - which is especially ridiculous considering that you have been relegated more recently and your city rivals actually finished third - having been below you in the league in November.

Baader
21-05-2025, 12:41 PM
A desperate outfit who just don't do reality. Laughably delusional.

ancient hibee
21-05-2025, 12:53 PM
Two great teams and one world class player in both photos.
It's the hierarchy.

Check this photo of Hibs.

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/sites/default/files/styles/maximum_size/public/2024-12/Hibs%201947-48%20League%20Championship%20winners%20w680.jpg?it ok=JVMGQDXW

Look at the nick of this set-up. All those duffers should be at the back in a line. Has to be some contrived weird-assedness.

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/sites/default/files/styles/maximum_size/public/2024-12/Hearts%201959-60%20League%20and%20League%20Cup%20winners%20w680. jpg?itok=Xs9H61Rm

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monarch
21-05-2025, 01:41 PM
Do any of the other clubs linked to Bloom constantly reference JTA in every press conference and club piece?

genuine question.
In what was barely a two column article interviewing their sporting director in today’s Scotsman the word ”Jamestown” appears eight times. Are they on some sort of contractual commission agreement where they have to mention it as often as possible ? Their lackeys in the media seem to be going along with it.

Maybe they think it’s what big teams do without realising Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Liverpool etc seem to exist without having to bore the rest of us with scattergun refences to their recruitment data systems.

Real Emerald
21-05-2025, 01:48 PM
In what was barely a two column article interviewing their sporting director in today’s Scotsman the word ”Jamestown” appears eight times. Are they on some sort of contractual commission agreement where they have to mention it as often as possible ? Their lackeys in the media seem to be going along with it.

Maybe they think it’s what big teams do without realising Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Liverpool etc seem to exist without having to bore the rest of us with scattergun refences to their recruitment data systems.

Maybe the BBC should be pulled up for the free advertising it’s getting on their platform.

NAE NOOKIE
21-05-2025, 02:09 PM
Seen a showreel on You Tube of that forward they've signed for next season, cannae mind his name.

Most of the goals he scored must have been during Covid or in reserve matches, because in practically every clip there was nobody in the stadium. Couple of nice goals in there, but I can't say the thought of him was giving me the fear :greengrin

Baader
21-05-2025, 02:42 PM
In what was barely a two column article interviewing their sporting director in today’s Scotsman the word ”Jamestown” appears eight times. Are they on some sort of contractual commission agreement where they have to mention it as often as possible ? Their lackeys in the media seem to be going along with it.

Maybe they think it’s what big teams do without realising Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Liverpool etc seem to exist without having to bore the rest of us with scattergun refences to their recruitment data systems.

Jonestown a more accurate reflection of how it's gone so far...

Broken Gnome
21-05-2025, 02:53 PM
We'd be as well just calling them Jamestown FC. It's their identity now. Mikey Stewart must be beaming.

HoboHarry
21-05-2025, 03:03 PM
We'd be as well just calling them Jamestown FC. It's their identity now. Mikey Stewart must be beaming.
Or (Jesse) Jamestown. He stole money from people too.

overdrive
21-05-2025, 03:09 PM
Did they not make mention of Hibs when they announced Stendl as their new manager. Something in their statement about his Barnsley getting the better of Jack Ross at Sunderland. Why?

It’s all about deflect..

They did. Then in the press conference when Stendl was appointed he admitted he had never heard of Hearts before but had obviously heard of Celtic, Rangers and Hibs :tee hee:

It was basically their equivalent of when Matt Doherty thought he'd signed for Hearts instead of us and kept calling us Hearts in his "welcome" interview on Hibs TV

Bobby's Cinema
21-05-2025, 03:13 PM
"We've ended up finishing seventh, which is as good as we could do once we're in the bottom six, but after that Dundee game, we were staring at least at a play-off, and everyone saw what happened to Hibs a few years ago when they were just in the bottom six, and that was acutely in my mind.

"Thinking about what had happened to Hibs, and then them getting relegated. I understand some people might think we were hasty, but I think hindsight shows it looks like it was probably the right decision."

Bloody hell... haven't they been relegated themselves since that? Why not use that as a reference point instead? They just can't help themselves.

He also said Critchley was a very good coach but maybe just didn't quite 'get' the club and it's demands. Which loosely translated means 'he got beat by Hibs.'
Are those real quotes haha this guy is something else. What about his interview at the time Critchley was appointed where they were bottom and he was talking about definitely finishing top 6 and going from there. Arrogance off the charts.

Filter through the Scottish media too, I remember watching them when they were 8th/9th in the new year and Mcfadden on commentary was talking about 'it's incredible Hearts are still in with a chance of third'

Alfred E Newman
21-05-2025, 04:17 PM
It's the hierarchy.

Check this photo of Hibs.

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/sites/default/files/styles/maximum_size/public/2024-12/Hibs%201947-48%20League%20Championship%20winners%20w680.jpg?it ok=JVMGQDXW

Look at the nick of this set-up. All those duffers should be at the back in a line. Has to be some contrived weird-assedness.

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/sites/default/files/styles/maximum_size/public/2024-12/Hearts%201959-60%20League%20and%20League%20Cup%20winners%20w680. jpg?itok=Xs9H61Rm

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Hurry up with the photo, we have to get down to the bowling club to pick up another badge for the blazer.

Tambo
21-05-2025, 06:17 PM
I think his first plan will be to try and make them harder to beat especially in the bigger games and will want a better home record but I'm not sure if that will be enough, Shankland started to hit a bit of form scoring at the end of the season, do the fans still want him gone? or do they want him to sign a new deal?

Like any appointment in football only time will tell if they skoosh their league cup group they'll be league contenders again no doubt.

Bring it on next season :flag:

Not In The Know
21-05-2025, 07:34 PM
Maybe the BBC should be pulled up for the free advertising it’s getting on their platform.

"Other analytic platforms are available" Should be mentioned every time "Biscuits" opens his gob!

Paul1642
21-05-2025, 07:56 PM
I think his first plan will be to try and make them harder to beat especially in the bigger games and will want a better home record but I'm not sure if that will be enough, Shankland started to hit a bit of form scoring at the end of the season, do the fans still want him gone? or do they want him to sign a new deal?

Like any appointment in football only time will tell if they skoosh their league cup group they'll be league contenders again no doubt.

Bring it on next season :flag:

Really hope Shankland goes. McInnes will probably play him properly making him a threat again.

He's here!
21-05-2025, 08:09 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c20xxr9q4pzo

Does this BBC write-up seem almost Hearts-esque in the way it's phrased (ie putting an extra layer of spin on things)?

eg 'The 24-year-old scored 15 goals in 25 league matches this season - more than any player from the club has managed at that level'.

What 'level'? Isn't it simpler just to say he was the club's top scorer? Or was somebody else their top scorer, but they've left out cup games to make this guy look better? Just seems a weird turn of phrase.

Also:

'This season, he finished third top scorer in the Slovakian top flight - four goals behind Tigran Barseghyan and David Strelec, both of champions Slovan Bratislava - as Zemplin narrowly missed out on the Championship group after their split.'

ie his team finished in the equivalent of the SPL's bottom six but hey, he was only a few goals behind two guys who played for the champions (who scored nearly 40 between them).

Come to think of it, this stuff was most likely lifted straight from the Hearts website. It's got that yam feel about it.

The Spaceman
21-05-2025, 08:12 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c20xxr9q4pzo

Does this BBC write-up seem almost Hearts-esque in the way it's phrased (ie putting an extra layer of spin on things)?

eg 'The 24-year-old scored 15 goals in 25 league matches this season - more than any player from the club has managed at that level'.

What 'level'? Isn't it simpler just to say he was the club's top scorer? Or was somebody else their top scorer, but they've left out cup games to make this guy look better? Just seems a weird turn of phrase.

Also:

'This season, he finished third top scorer in the Slovakian top flight - four goals behind Tigran Barseghyan and David Strelec, both of champions Slovan Bratislava - as Zemplin narrowly missed out on the Championship group after their split.'

ie his team finished in the equivalent of the SPL's bottom six but hey, he was only a few goals behind two guys who played for the champions (who scored nearly 40 between them).

Come to think of it, this stuff was most likely lifted straight from the Hearts website. It's got that yam feel about it.

Exactly my thoughts reading it as well - so many weird little spins on things to try and hype up a complete nobody so-far career-wise.

Eyrie
21-05-2025, 08:12 PM
Jonestown a more accurate reflection of how it's gone so far...

Yup.

The maroon Kool Aid.

Aldo
21-05-2025, 08:17 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c20xxr9q4pzo

Does this BBC write-up seem almost Hearts-esque in the way it's phrased (ie putting an extra layer of spin on things)?

eg 'The 24-year-old scored 15 goals in 25 league matches this season - more than any player from the club has managed at that level'.

What 'level'? Isn't it simpler just to say he was the club's top scorer? Or was somebody else their top scorer, but they've left out cup games to make this guy look better? Just seems a weird turn of phrase.

Also:

'This season, he finished third top scorer in the Slovakian top flight - four goals behind Tigran Barseghyan and David Strelec, both of champions Slovan Bratislava - as Zemplin narrowly missed out on the Championship group after their split.'

ie his team finished in the equivalent of the SPL's bottom six but hey, he was only a few goals behind two guys who played for the champions (who scored nearly 40 between them).

Come to think of it, this stuff was most likely lifted straight from the Hearts website. It's got that yam feel about it.

Do we expect anything less from them when it comes to the Gorgie Galácticos?

I’m actually surprised they’ve not mentioned JTA given it’s their only mode of scouting from here on in!

CapitalGreen
21-05-2025, 08:20 PM
I think his first plan will be to try and make them harder to beat especially in the bigger games and will want a better home record but I'm not sure if that will be enough, Shankland started to hit a bit of form scoring at the end of the season, do the fans still want him gone? or do they want him to sign a new deal?

Like any appointment in football only time will tell if they skoosh their league cup group they'll be league contenders again no doubt.

Bring it on next season :flag:

Why do folk keep saying DM needs to make Hearts harder to beat - they already were hard to beat. Their problem was they were a not very effective attacking team who were overly reliant on one player for most of their goals.

Tambo
21-05-2025, 08:47 PM
Why do folk keep saying DM needs to make Hearts harder to beat - they already were hard to beat. Their problem was they were a not very effective attacking team who were overly reliant on one player for most of their goals.

That was a problem for them for sure, just the bigger games which was one of the hearts fans complaints about Critchley that they couldn't win the big games.

007
21-05-2025, 09:32 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c20xxr9q4pzo

Does this BBC write-up seem almost Hearts-esque in the way it's phrased (ie putting an extra layer of spin on things)?

eg 'The 24-year-old scored 15 goals in 25 league matches this season - more than any player from the club has managed at that level'.

What 'level'? Isn't it simpler just to say he was the club's top scorer? Or was somebody else their top scorer, but they've left out cup games to make this guy look better? Just seems a weird turn of phrase.

Also:

'This season, he finished third top scorer in the Slovakian top flight - four goals behind Tigran Barseghyan and David Strelec, both of champions Slovan Bratislava - as Zemplin narrowly missed out on the Championship group after their split.'

ie his team finished in the equivalent of the SPL's bottom six but hey, he was only a few goals behind two guys who played for the champions (who scored nearly 40 between them).

Come to think of it, this stuff was most likely lifted straight from the Hearts website. It's got that yam feel about it.

Looking at SofaScore, 4 of his 15 were penalties. 7 of the 15 were in the 10 post-split matches against the bottom 6 teams. Before the split, 5 were against teams that ended up bottom 6 and 3 that ended in the top 6 (the teams that finished 3rd, 4th and 6th). So in answer to your question "What level?" ...pish level, the Slovakian St Johnstone, Ross County etc.


In the season just finished, they could only beat the pish and failed in every big game. It seems they've signed a player that will fit in perfectly with that. Jambosdown Anal-tics does it again!