They are hurting

[bordergreen]

Has anyone else noticed how bitter the Jambo’s they know are? The one’s I know seem to be hurting badly. Bitter as! I am just enjoying the show…. GGTTH :thumbsup:

[Bostonhibby]

Family yam has resorted to "we were robbed" by Beaton.

"Not the first time this season where the ref has turned a big game against us".

"We are already re building to come back bigger and better next season"

It's taken hours to get any form of response. Wasn't there yesterday.

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[OstKurve Hibs]

It's all just a good laugh isn't it.

[Humo]

The Romanov years have altered their brain chemistry and expectations beyond recognition. You’d think with the amount of relegations they’ve had (and zero trophies) since he was found out would wisen them up but wisdom is chasing them but they are faster.


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[NthCarolinaHibs]

I was in the boozer formerly known as the Centurion,yesterday as their busses arrived back...best tasting pint I've had in a while..😁

[He's here!]

Failing to win a derby really kills them. It's so often such a crutch for them.

Just a delight to see them toil. I'd pay to see them relegated via the play-offs.

[hibsbollah]

Failing to win a derby really kills them. It's so often such a crutch for them.

Just a delight to see them toil. I'd pay to see them relegated via the play-offs.

:agree: Lewis Stevenson deflected winner just seconds before it goes to pens.

[worcesterhibby]

Failing to win a derby really kills them. It's so often such a crutch for them.

Just a delight to see them toil. I'd pay to see them relegated via the play-offs.

I want to win three derbys next season, let them stay up

[McD]

:agree: Lewis Stevenson deflected winner just seconds before it goes to pens.


That is also dubious as to whether it went over the line :wink:

[hibsbollah]

That is dubious as to whether it went over the line :wink:

:agree: + Paul Hanlon standing 8 yards offside

[erin go bragh]

I was in the boozer formerly known as the Centurion,yesterday as their busses arrived back...best tasting pint I've had in a while..😁

A full bus load of them came back to our local club, glorious it was and i only put love will tear us apart four times, plus a few proclaimers songs.
😂😂

[Jim44]

I don’t sense any bitterness from any Jambos I know and talk to. When the shoe is on the other foot, however, all they want to talk about is football. At low times like the present, football is off-menu.

[Nicho87]

Hibs are in their bed though eh

Twonks

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

I don't mind if they really think the problems lie with officials and others outside of Tynie. It means they won't fix what's wrong.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/207167-will-hearts-publicly-call-out-beaton/

Talk of demanding a replay😂

[Dibben]

lol…

[Col2]

The reaction with Beaton smacks of the need for them to find something however small and inaccurate to blame rather than facing into reality that they again failed to win a big game.

They are such a weird bunch. A level of arrogance based on little (3 trophies in 65 years) means when reality bites and god forbid “the wee team” are doing much better results in them really struggling to know what to do or who to blame.

They grasp on to stuff like:- 1. The biggest crowd outside the OF award or 2. The greatest defensive masterclass in years or 3. We should be demanding a reply given the referee corruption.

When in reality they have pissed away £50m of fan and benefactors donations on crap players and budge vanity projects. I can’t see one player they have in that squad making our first 11. They now face a risk of a relegation battle (again). No wonder they don’t want to talk about football!

[green day]

Hearts fans are ridiculous.

They have multiple threads on JKB variously demanding a replay, suggesting Beaton has it in for them, that the board need to "call out Beaton", complaining about the red cards, demanding that the FoH call this and that out - and most hilariously - asking the last time it "felt fair".

I mean, all fitba fans have short memories, but none of them asked about fairness when they took Vlads non-existent money and bought a couple of cup wins, all of them giggled when we had goals chalked off that clearly hit the back of the net etc etc etc etc .

They should be asking about why - with all the tens of millions pumped in by FoH and James Anderson - they are moving into their 14th consecutive season without a trophy.

[JimBHibees]

Hearts fans are ridiculous.

They have multiple threads on JKB variously demanding a replay, suggesting Beaton has it in for them, that the board need to "call out Beaton", complaining about the red cards, demanding that the FoH call this and that out - and most hilariously - asking the last time it "felt fair".

I mean, all fitba fans have short memories, but none of them asked about fairness when they took Vlads non-existent money and bought a couple of cup wins, all of them giggled when we had goals chalked off that clearly hit the back of the net etc etc etc etc .

They should be asking about why - with all the tens of millions pumped in by FoH and James Anderson - they are moving into their 14th consecutive season without a trophy.

Beaton has helped them massively in the past

[Bostonhibby]

Beaton has helped them massively in the pastA big boy done it and ran away.

Can't be anything to do with their famous atmospheric club and the way the fans allow the bowling club committee that run it to blow all that extra cash on their bottom 6 side.

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[hibsbollah]

A big boy done it and ran away.

Can't be anything to do with their famous atmospheric club and the way the fans allow the bowling club committee that run it to blow all that extra cash on their bottom 6 side.

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A braver bowling committee you will never ever find. We shall remember them. For such valiant warriors they have an awfully low pain threshold; every whatsapp group im on with jambo friends have all gone deathly quiet :shh:

[babahibs]

I don’t sense any bitterness from any Jambos I know and talk to. When the shoe is on the other foot, however, all they want to talk about is football. At low times like the present, football is off-menu.

It has always been thus, if they're doing better than us they want to talk football at every opportunity, if it's the other way round they're not interested in football anymore. Fannies.

[EdinMike]

I’ve no idea what event caused all 400,000 of them to develop retrograde amnesia, was it when they got “Demoted” ?!

[kentao]

Beatons performance wasn't even close to being as bad as Craig Thompson's performance in the 5-1 game. Blatantly missing Ian Black's forearm smash on Griffiths very early on in the game that should have been a red card, Awarding Penalty's a yard outside the box. They need to face up to reality that they are a very pish team with a terrible manager and a tiny stadium. Unless major changes and financial input they are going to be in our shadow for years to come.
GGTTH

[scm70nyd1973]

A braver bowling committee you will never ever find. We shall remember them. For such valiant warriors they have an awfully low pain threshold; every whatsapp group im on with jambo friends have all gone deathly quiet :shh:

Their epic braveness got in the way of figuring out that Aberdeen were playing like an under 7 Brownies team (apologies in advance to all under 7 Brownies in any such team) and realising that the game could be won.

[MacGruber]

It's pure deflection for their own inadequacies. This 'couldn't get the red card out fast enough' only washes if it wasn't a sending off. It was though. They even say as much themselves. Given it is 100% the correct call it really doesn't matter does it. Devlin 1st booking is a solid booking. Late, over the ball on to boys foot. Not one for debate. 2nd booking is harsh on face of it but it is a foul. Accidental reasoning doesn't wash either. Aberdeen boy kicks ball. Hearts boy kicks Aberdeen player. Intended or not it is a foul and free kick. That can't be disputed. He is then just brandishing a second yellow to a player that has now committed 6 or 7 fouls after being booked and also started the pushing/shirt grabbing with Dons player after their challenge. That Dons player was booked for that shoving. Devlin who started the shoving in that incident somehow wasn't booked. He should have been off before he was.
Beaton deserves praise for having a good game. Sometimes refs get stick for performances so credit where credit is due. 2 red card calls spot on.
If I'm being pedantic for constructive criticism, Devlin should have been sent off before he was. Again though, credit to Beaton for showing both Hearts and Cammy Devlin leniency. In a perfect world he shouldn't have favoured Hearts in this way but he's only human

[Green Reaper]

It's fair ramping up over there, talk of sending a letter to the SFA and then releasing a 'terse' statement that they have sent a letter 🤣

[scm70nyd1973]

It's fair ramping up over there, talk of sending a letter to the SFA and then releasing a 'terse' statement that they have sent a letter 🤣

It will be the bravest and biggliest statement and letter though - that’s a given

[Col2]

Beatons performance wasn't even close to being as bad as Craig Thompson's performance in the 5-1 game. Blatantly missing Ian Black's forearm smash on Griffiths very early on in the game that should have been a red card, Awarding Penalty's a yard outside the box. They need to face up to reality that they are a very pish team with a terrible manager and a tiny stadium. Unless major changes and financial input they are going to be in our shadow for years to come.
GGTTH

This after Thomson previous record in Hibs games consistently included very bad decisions against Hibs. If I recall we as a club were not happy with his appt as cup final ref. We knew it, they knew it, he knew it.

[Col2]

It's pure deflection for their own inadequacies. This 'couldn't get the red card out fast enough' only washes if it wasn't a sending off. It was though. They even say as much themselves. Given it is 100% the correct call it really doesn't matter does it. Devlin 1st booking is a solid booking. Late, over the ball on to boys foot. Not one for debate. 2nd booking is harsh on face of it but it is a foul. Accidental reasoning doesn't wash either. Aberdeen boy kicks ball. Hearts boy kicks Aberdeen player. Intended or not it is a foul and free kick. That can't be disputed. He is then just brandishing a second yellow to a player that has now committed 6 or 7 fouls after being booked and also started the pushing/shirt grabbing with Dons player after their challenge. That Dons player was booked for that shoving. Devlin who started the shoving in that incident somehow wasn't booked. He should have been off before he was.
Beaton deserves praise for having a good game. Sometimes refs get stick for performances so credit where credit is due. 2 red card calls spot on.
If I'm being pedantic for constructive criticism, Devlin should have been sent off before he was. Again though, credit to Beaton for showing both Hearts and Cammy Devlin leniency. In a perfect world he shouldn't have favoured Hearts in this way but he's only human

Spot on summary. The only addition is how they link thr 2nd red card to losing the game? They don’t deny it was a free kick but there is no link to Devlin being on the park and them not conceding. They should ask Craig Gordon why he palmed a tame shot out to the striker…

[Since452]

They are becoming as entitled as Celtic and Rangers fans. All big bad Beatons fault. Always cheated never defeated.

The first sending off was a stone wall red. The other one was persistent fouling and the boy was warned over and over again.

Honestly despise those *****. The brief period under Romanov has given them a warped sense of reality. More relegations than trophies in last 60 years.

[matty_f]

I’ve no idea what event caused all 400,000 of them to develop retrograde amnesia, was it when they got “Demoted” ?!

They’ve been talking recently about how they’ve never been out the top six.

Like they forget they were relegated and that they are, still, the joint most relegated club since league reconstruction way back when.

[matty_f]

They are becoming as entitled as Celtic and Rangers fans. All big bad Beatons fault. Always cheated never defeated.

The first sending off was a stone wall red. The other one was persistent fouling and the boy was warned over and over again.

Honestly despise those *****. The brief period under Romanov has given them a warped sense of reality. More relegations than trophies in last 60 years.

Beaton got the big decisions right. Devlin volleyed the boy’s foot FFS.
Now, he did go down with a head knock every time he lost a challenge, so maybe he had some double vision or grogginess, but that’s on the Hearts bench to manage, it doesn’t allow him to just straight out kick folk with impunity.

That’s before you consider how many challenges he could have been booked for but wasn’t.

If Hearts fans think anything is unfair it should be that their manager deprived them of the chance of a final by parking the bus and not trying to win the game from the first red card before half time.

[Big_Franck]

Beaton got the big decisions right. Devlin volleyed the boy’s foot FFS.
Now, he did go down with a head knock every time he lost a challenge, so maybe he had some double vision or grogginess, but that’s on the Hearts bench to manage, it doesn’t allow him to just straight out kick folk with impunity.

That’s before you consider how many challenges he could have been booked for but wasn’t.

If Hearts fans think anything is unfair it should be that their manager deprived them of the chance of a final by parking the bus and not trying to win the game from the first red card before half time.

Definitely. Taking 2 strikers off at halftime signalled his intent and it eventually backfired for him and for them. Shame.

[O'Rourke3]

Definitely. Taking 2 strikers off at halftime signalled his intent and it eventually backfired for him and for them. Shame.The really funny thing was that the second goal came within seconds of them getting to penalties. All that resolute defending for SFA. 10 men behind the ball, if that was a colour it would be maroon.

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[SteveHFC]

Beaton got the big decisions right. Devlin volleyed the boy’s foot FFS.
Now, he did go down with a head knock every time he lost a challenge, so maybe he had some double vision or grogginess, but that’s on the Hearts bench to manage, it doesn’t allow him to just straight out kick folk with impunity.

That’s before you consider how many challenges he could have been booked for but wasn’t.

If Hearts fans think anything is unfair it should be that their manager deprived them of the chance of a final by parking the bus and not trying to win the game from the first red card before half time.

Aye but according to Craig Gordon he can't understand why devlin was sent off and they would have won on penalties if he was still on

[Aldo]

Aye but according to Craig Gordon he can't understand why devlin was sent off and they would have won on penalties if he was still on

Again oor Craigie gaslighting his beloved with his 1. Failure to come for the cross in his 6 yard box for the first goal 2. Palming the ball to the Dons striker for the second goal!

I hope he stays as their No1 next season as he’s making loads of mistakes and is costing them points.

[Kato]

It will be the bravest and biggliest statement and letter though - that’s a given"To me Hearts should*send a detailed private letter to the SFA about it, not just about the cards themselves but about Beaton's conduct towards the coaches, then just release a very terse statement that we've sent a letter but not state the contents."


Prepare for an earthquake in Scottish football if this happens.

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[Bostonhibby]

Aye but according to Craig Gordon he can't understand why devlin was sent off and they would have won on penalties if he was still onHe could well have been right, so long as one of the penalties never bounced of the crossbar hitting his erse on the way in to create a Gordonog.

If the coaching staff could have controlled Devlin before the ref had to........

Coulda shoulda, didnae.

That one's on Critchley. With 10 men they might still have won that against a really dreary Aberdeen.....

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[21.05.2016]

I mean, all fitba fans have short memories, but none of them asked about fairness when they took Vlads non-existent money and bought a couple of cup wins, all of them giggled when we had goals chalked off that clearly hit the back of the net etc etc etc etc .



Exactly. **** every single one of those arrogant *******s. They cheated and stole money off so many charities, small businesses, individuals etc etc to get a bit of tainted glory then when they fell in the **** and came up smelling of roses (as usual!) it was all "this heart still beats" and all that other cringe, boak worthy pish. A huge huge 2 fingers to everyone who they robbed. How dare they play the victims. No humility, no sjhame, just back giving it the big un like the obnoxious *******s they are.

[OstKurve Hibs]

Exactly. **** every single one of those arrogant *******s. They cheated and stole money off so many charities, small businesses, individuals etc etc to get a bit of tainted glory then when they fell in the **** and came up smelling of roses (as usual!) it was all "this heart still beats" and all that other cringe, boak worthy pish. A huge huge 2 fingers to everyone who they robbed. How dare they play the victims. No humility or anything, just back giving it the big un like the obnoxious *******s they are.

Just like their sticky bun brothers, zero shame !

[Se7enUp]

I don’t sense any bitterness from any Jambos I know and talk to. When the shoe is on the other foot, however, all they want to talk about is football. At low times like the present, football is off-menu.

Football? Almost every jambo I know only ever wants to talk hearts.

[Libby Hibby]

Not one Jambo has texted me since 3pm on Saturday…it’s been class.

Every single one of them are spewing.

[PatHead]

It's pure deflection for their own inadequacies. This 'couldn't get the red card out fast enough' only washes if it wasn't a sending off. It was though. They even say as much themselves. Given it is 100% the correct call it really doesn't matter does it. Devlin 1st booking is a solid booking. Late, over the ball on to boys foot. Not one for debate. 2nd booking is harsh on face of it but it is a foul. Accidental reasoning doesn't wash either. Aberdeen boy kicks ball. Hearts boy kicks Aberdeen player. Intended or not it is a foul and free kick. That can't be disputed. He is then just brandishing a second yellow to a player that has now committed 6 or 7 fouls after being booked and also started the pushing/shirt grabbing with Dons player after their challenge. That Dons player was booked for that shoving. Devlin who started the shoving in that incident somehow wasn't booked. He should have been off before he was.
Beaton deserves praise for having a good game. Sometimes refs get stick for performances so credit where credit is due. 2 red card calls spot on.
If I'm being pedantic for constructive criticism, Devlin should have been sent off before he was. Again though, credit to Beaton for showing both Hearts and Cammy Devlin leniency. In a perfect world he shouldn't have favoured Hearts in this way but he's only human

Can't agree with you that Beaton had a good game. He should have sent Devlin off much earlier. You can't let a player continually foul after a booking.

[Se7enUp]

Exactly. **** every single one of those arrogant *******s. They cheated and stole money off so many charities, small businesses, individuals etc etc to get a bit of tainted glory then when they fell in the **** and came up smelling of roses (as usual!) it was all "this heart still beats" and all that other cringe, boak worthy pish. A huge huge 2 fingers to everyone who they robbed. How dare they play the victims. No humility or anything, just back giving it the big un like the obnoxious *******s they are.

Nice wee clamping done on View from the Terrace a few weeks back; resident jambos were waxing lyrical about the "glory" years under Romanov, and Geissler's podcast on Romanov interview (I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole, but I'd bet that "serious" journo who's a jambo didn't ask even one contentious question). Shaughan McGuigan said "yeah, and it only took 50000 Lithuanian pensions". They tried to ignore it and carry on, so he said it again. They were utterly clamped, end of segment 😂

[MacGruber]

They've now released a club statement to appease the hoardes

[Donegal Hibby]

Gary Mackay ‘ Daily Record ‘ hertz were cheated out of a penalty shootout… the pain :faf:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hearts-cheated-out-penalty-shootout-35092114

[Aldo]

They've now released a club statement to appease the hoardes

Wow. So their failure to get to the final and make the top 6 were down to decisions which have gone against them.

Absolutely brilliant.

Meant to add dry your eyes and get it right ****ing round yeah!

[K-Zazu]

They've now released a club statement to appease the hoardes

😂😂😂

[Skol]

A bad man burst my ball. Love it.

[WeAreHibs]

The bigliest sorest losers!

They should be docked points for bringing the game into disrepute. Embarrassing!

[truehibernian]

Wow. So their failure to get to the final and make the top 6 were down to decisions which have gone against them.

Absolutely brilliant.

Meant to add dry your eyes and get it right ****ing round yeah!

The cynic in me says that’s a direct attempt to influence referees and VAR officials by a team finding themselves 6 points from a relegation play off place 👍

Wonder if we should release one about the wee painter and decorator purposely assaulting Leigh in the final at 0-0 (red card) and getting a penalty from a foul outside the box won by a team that was propped up by a money laundering criminal👍 or Leigh’s free kick, Ollie’s “goal”, Kamberi’s ridiculous red card, their penalty dive at Tynie last season, etc etc etc !

Shower of self entitled clowns 🤡

[we are hibs]

I must the the only one who thought a second booking was right. I think he had to put a foot in and was unlucky but he's kicked under his foot and took him out at the edge of the box. It's a booking. Hearts statement is embarrassing but to be expected from a football club who rather than look within at why it's a bottom 6 club would rather deflect and blame everyone else. It's in their nature to act in this way.

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[blackpoolhibs]

Has anyone got the times on how quickly a ref takes to send off a player, asking for a friend?:greengrin

[bingo70]

IMO they should enlist the help of a sports lawyer like David Winnie and perhaps sue the SFA for £10m.

Worked well before, well it did for me anyway.

[Bostonhibby]

IMO they should enlist the help of a sports lawyer like David Winnie and perhaps sue the SFA for £10m.

Worked well before, well it did for me anyway.Wonder if their legal expert who had the champagne on ice for when their expungulation was overturned still has the bottle unopened?



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[Www1875hfc]

They've now released a club statement to appease the hoardes

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/blogs/news/club-statement-scottish-cup-semi-final


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[Stuart93]

What a glorious statement from the “famous”

[SaulGoodman]

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/blogs/news/club-statement-scottish-cup-semi-final


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Bringing the game into disrepute. Points deduction please.

[Billy Whizz]

Hearts have now lost 55 per cent of games with John Beaton as referee

What what Hibs record is

[lugz]

Strange how they've left out that the referee decided not to book devlin for time wasting when he was off the pitch with a head knock but decided to roll back on to the pitch to stop the game. Clowns.

[Skol]

Hearts have now lost 55 per cent of games with John Beaton as referee

What what Hibs record is

That’s about in line with their league form so feels about right.

[Bostonhibby]

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/blogs/news/club-statement-scottish-cup-semi-final


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[Aldo]

The cynic in me says that’s a direct attempt to influence referees and VAR officials by a team finding themselves 6 points from a relegation play off place [emoji106]

Wonder if we should release one about the wee painter and decorator purposely assaulting Leigh in the final at 0-0 (red card) and getting a penalty from a foul outside the box won by a team that was propped up by a money laundering criminal[emoji106] or Leigh’s free kick, Ollie’s “goal”, Kamberi’s ridiculous red card, their penalty dive at Tynie last season, etc etc etc !

Shower of self entitled clowns [emoji1782]

It’s like they had a right to go to penalties. Who’s to say Aberdeen wouldn’t have scored a goal with Devlin on the park.

The air of arrogance and entitlement shines right through. Their own failings and lack of discipline on Saturday was the reason they lost the game, nothing to do with the officials.

Very pleasing to see this sort of thing for them as it makes them look bitter at defeat.

The majority mind you are too stupid to release that those at the top are gaslighting the fans releasing the statement.

Dry your eyes

[we are hibs]

Is this the same Beaton who sent off Newell against Hearts in the semis a few years back and gave hearts every 50/50 decision. Or is it the one who sent off 2 Inverness player in a semi against Hearts at Easter Road a few years back one of which was a straight red for a trip (which Hearts then lost lol).

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[MagicSwirlingShip]

Pathetic statement 🤣

[O'Rourke3]

Is this the same Beaton who sent off Newell against Hearts in the semis a few years back and gave hearts every 50/50 decision. Or is it the one who sent off 2 Inverness player in a semi against Hearts at Easter Road a few years back one of which was a straight red for a trip (which Hearts then lost lol).

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Just going to make the same point. Newell gets sent off while C*ckring fouls with impunity getting a single booking. Anything that gets their faces to the same crap colour of their top is always fun to watch though.

[Col2]

"To have nearly 22,000 Jambos inside Hampden Park was an incredible feat and your support undoubtedly inspired the team on the pitch to battle until the very end, where, against all odds, it looked as if the players had earned the opportunity to take the match to penalty kicks, and deservedly so."

🤣🤣🤣

So they went down to 10 men at the end of the first half 100% on them yet make it sound like they were fighting the most unfair unjust decision in the history of professional football.

[JeMeSouviens]

Whine, whine, whine.

They've got enough defenders at the winning goal. Penrice makes a half-hearted back-turned jump to try and block the cross. Baningime fails to track his man and Kent switches off allowing Dabbagh to tap in the rebound.

[B.H.F.C]

"To have nearly 22,000 Jambos inside Hampden Park was an incredible feat and your support undoubtedly inspired the team on the pitch to battle until the very end, where, against all odds, it looked as if the players had earned the opportunity to take the match to penalty kicks, and deservedly so."

🤣🤣🤣

So they went down to 10 men at the end of the first half 100% on them yet make it sound like they were fighting the most unfair unjust decision in the history of professional football.

I was going to post exactly the same. Found that bit quite funny.

[GRA]

Wee shame! Conveniently forgetting all the decisions that went in their favour last season, can't take controversial decisions evening themselves out.

Pleasing to see them greeting and deflecting, levels of delusion getting as bad as Sevco. GIRFUY!

:giruy2:

[Aldo]

Whine, whine, whine.

They've got enough defenders at the winning goal. Penrice makes a half-hearted back-turned jump to try and block the cross. Baningime fails to track his man and Kent switches off allowing Dabbagh to tap in the rebound.

Let’s not forget 6ft 6 or something like that, Gordon rooted to the spot as the ball enters the six yard box for the first goal and then palms the ball into the path of the Aberdeen lad to hit it into the net for the second

We all know why the statement was issued and to play the always the victim card when it’s clear it’s all down to their own failings.

All very pleasing.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

It’s the reference to the fan ownership that gets me. As if they have a voice in the shambles going on 🤣

[JohnM1875]

They've now released a club statement to appease the hoardes

😂😂 they actually have as well! What a ****ing embarrassment.

[Www1875hfc]

"To have nearly 22,000 Jambos inside Hampden Park was an incredible feat and your support undoubtedly inspired the team on the pitch to battle until the very end, where, against all odds, it looked as if the players had earned the opportunity to take the match to penalty kicks, and deservedly so."

[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

So they went down to 10 men at the end of the first half 100% on them yet make it sound like they were fighting the most unfair unjust decision in the history of professional football.

Dont forget the 1 shot on target they had. [emoji23]


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[Aldo]

Dont forget the 1 shot on target they had. [emoji23]


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Beatons fault too!

[allezsauzee]

Long may they believe that the refs are the issue and not the fact that they are a shambles :greengrin

[Libby Hibby]

As far as club statements go, that’s in the top 3, if not first.

What an embarrassment.

Basically, we’re a wee teeny bit angry but please don’t dessert us as we’re not really near the play off places (we really are) but we need every one of you to stay with us…pathetic

[He's here!]

"To have nearly 22,000 Jambos inside Hampden Park was an incredible feat and your support undoubtedly inspired the team on the pitch to battle until the very end, where, against all odds, it looked as if the players had earned the opportunity to take the match to penalty kicks, and deservedly so."

🤣🤣🤣

So they went down to 10 men at the end of the first half 100% on them yet make it sound like they were fighting the most unfair unjust decision in the history of professional football.

Also makes it sound as though they were up against a colossus of the world game rather than a mediocre sheep side.

The statement is one long piece of deflection from their own inadequacies. 'Boo hoo, not fair' would be the concise summary. Reminds me of their bleating last time they got relegated.

[Libby Hibby]

It’s quite possibly the worst 8 days in Hertz history since May 1986.

Absolute class.

[Victor]

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What an embarrassment. The SFA should fine them for having the audacity to publish such nonsense.

[He's here!]

Reminds me of the sort of stuff the huns used to release when Traynor did their comms. Pitiful 'how dare you' bleating.

Suck it up yams. You haven't been good enough all season, that's all.

[mcohibs]

Aw bless. Patting themselves on the back for almost taking the mighty Aberdeen to penalties. How very bottom-six. Tinpot.

[He's here!]

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/blogs/news/2025-26-season-tickets

What does 'from funnel to tunnel' mean? And how is a Hearts scarf 'steeped in wealth'?

[Since452]

It’s quite possibly the worst 8 days in Hertz history since May 1986.

Absolute class.

They come in three's they say. Playoff would be nice.

[jeffers]

Devlin knew what he’d done, it’s why he feigned injury after the challenge. If it was such an injustice he’d have said something when the card was produced. He didn’t.

[mcohibs]

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/blogs/news/2025-26-season-tickets

What does 'from funnel to tunnel' mean? And how is a Hearts scarf 'steeped in wealth'?

Presumably the Channel Tunnel as I believe referenced in one of their songs about ‘going to Europe’.

Ironically it’s their tagline for promoting season tickets for a campaign in which they’ll be ****ing nowhere near it. Unless they mean the Clyde Tunnel?

[Since452]

"To have nearly 22,000 Jambos inside Hampden Park was an incredible feat and your support undoubtedly inspired the team on the pitch to battle until the very end, where, against all odds, it looked as if the players had earned the opportunity to take the match to penalty kicks, and deservedly so."

🤣🤣🤣

So they went down to 10 men at the end of the first half 100% on them yet make it sound like they were fighting the most unfair unjust decision in the history of professional football.

They should add it to their WW1 win.

[Ringothedog]

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/blogs/news/2025-26-season-tickets

What does 'from funnel to tunnel' mean? And how is a Hearts scarf 'steeped in wealth'?

Only the muppets could explain what it means. It is really quite weird. A bit like them really

The second part will be the wealth chored from local businesses and Lithuanian pension funds.

[Bridge hibs]

That heart statement is ****ing absolute cringe !! Ffs get over yourselves ya bunch of self righteous pricks. Everyone is against us, aw boo ****ing hoo, act like ****ing wanna be hard men on the pitch and you pay the price for it, no-one else to blame for that defeat other than the useless pricks you had on the pitch and the useless prick who picked the useless pricks you had on the pitch. Muppets.

Oh and Dhanda, GIRFUY 🤣

[K-Zazu]

That’s what you get for parking the bus after 44 mins and trying to play for penalties against Aberdeen 😂😂😂

[LithgaeHibby]

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/blogs/news/2025-26-season-tickets

What does 'from funnel to tunnel' mean? And how is a Hearts scarf 'steeped in wealth'?

The "funnel" must be from the submarine that Romanov magically stepped from, before winning the champion's league and then disappearing into a concrete pillar somewhere.

[Donegal Hibby]

Some of the stuff that’s coming out from them is really embarrassing like Craig Gordon saying “ They would have been confident of beating Aberdeen on penalties and the sending off killed them “ , how is Devlin’s challenge a yellow card he will never know ..

Penalties are just a lottery so I don’t know why he’d have been confident in winning it and Devlin was late and kicked the boy wither some think it was soft or not doesn’t matter as he could have been booked for persistent fouling anyhow.

[HoboHarry]

They seem to have mastered the art of greetin-facery lol. Dear me, I 'd be red faced if Hibs put anything like that out.

[HarpOnHibee]

"We waz cheated guv"
"Better team lost"
"We've just been very unlucky"
"At least we have our identity"
"We win at atmosphere"

Absolute losers.

[BoomtownHibees]

Height of their ambition was to get to penalties. Bottom 6, wee team mentality

[degenerated]

Hearts have now lost 55 per cent of games with John Beaton as referee

What what Hibs record is

Quick check suggests out of 52 games. Win 42%, Lose 35%, draw 23%

[hibeerealist]

But, but, but they won the singing did they not?

Sign o a big team that is...........

[Billy Whizz]

Quick check suggests out of 52 games. Win 42%, Lose 35%, draw 23%

Thanks

[degenerated]

ThanksEvery stat you could need is on here

https://www.fitbastats.com/hibs/

[Glory Lurker]

Beggars belief.

[SickBoy32]

😂😂😂

Long live the budge ! What a bunch of dafties 🤡💩

Hurting big time, and I love it.

[Since452]

Imagine failing to beat Aberdeen then releasing a statement. Height of cringe. Aberdeen 😂

[Bridge hibs]

I see the SFA have bowed to the pressure of that hearts statement and have issued them with 2 trophies as an apology and have allowed them to parade their lost the semi trophy on an open top bus.

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[truehibernian]

The "funnel" must be from the submarine that Romanov magically stepped from, before winning the champion's league and then disappearing into a concrete pillar somewhere.

What’s the “ritual old as time itself” stuff 😂 are they claiming the Big Bang theory too ?

Right enough, that was when there was a hot, dense state that’s expanded ever since - perfectly summing up their CEO and their collective “wisdom” and egos 😁

[Hibspur]

It just makes their woes all the more enjoyable when they resort to stuff like this in a bid to switch the blame and get their more gullible fans onside.

[Hibspur]

The "funnel" must be from the submarine that Romanov magically stepped from, before winning the champion's league and then disappearing into a concrete pillar somewhere.

Is funnel maybe some sort of knitting term?

The tunnel bit makes no sense because only the players use the tunnel, not scarf-wearing fans.

All in all it's a pretty awful poem.

[HarpOnHibee]

The SFA should award all of their stars with copper medals for "trying really hard". It's the participation that counts.

[JeMeSouviens]

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/blogs/news/2025-26-season-tickets

What does 'from funnel to tunnel' mean? And how is a Hearts scarf 'steeped in wealth'?

Good god, putting the dog right into doggerel there. That's ******g cringe. Suits them perfectly.

[Sheffhibee]

Paul Mcginn got banned after criticising the ref immediately after the 2021 League Cup Final v Celtic at Hampden. These numpties have had 2 days to reflect and come out with this embarrassing statement.
15 point deduction from the SFA would seem too be an appropriate punishment, in the interest of balance and fairness🙏

[JeMeSouviens]

Is funnel maybe some sort of knitting term?

The tunnel bit makes no sense because only the players use the tunnel, not scarf-wearing fans.

All in all it's a pretty awful poem.

Having spent several minutes googling that I'll never get back, it's related to this I think - https://www.fanchants.com/football-songs/hearts-chants/were-going-europe/

[Hibees1973]

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/blogs/news/club-statement-scottish-cup-semi-final


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Extraordinary.

Reasons why they lost.

1. Aberdeen scored more goals
2. Only one shot on target by the Yam
3. Negative tactics in replacing 2 forwards with 2 defenders
4. Both sendings off were correct - Devlin should have been sent off well before the 118th minute

Hilarious statement.

[Bostonhibby]

Could the SFA maybe knock up some sort of badge, or special certificate to acknowledge their efforts on the day and recognise that Devlin managed to stay on the pitch for as long as he did?

If they have something to put on the boardroom wall, or pin on their golf guys jaiket there's got to be a chance they'll go away?

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[Not In The Know]

Good god, putting the dog right into doggerel there. That's ******g cringe. Suits them perfectly.


OMG that is hilarious, cringe and ****!

some welt in a windowless office has been briefed with the season ticket promo job.

Response, Ah sure Mrs Dr Budgie. Leave it with me… “Chat GPT… I work for hearts the most biggliest and wealthy and well historical team in the world (deffo Edinburgh likes) we’ve won wars and stuff, we do this daft swinging scarf thing once every 15 years when we get excited, and eh we are wealthy and elite and that and have made the football scarf our own and it’s symbolic to only our well wealthy amazing club and that. Write me an article telling our subscribers this

also please stop inserting the word funnel randomly into your response.

[bringbackbenny]

Those trumpets don't do irony do they.

Hope the SFA through the book at their silly wee club.

[Www1875hfc]

I see the SFA have bowed to the pressure of that hearts statement and have issued them with 2 trophies as an apology and have allowed them to parade their lost the semi trophy on an open top bus.

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[LithgaeHibby]

Is funnel maybe some sort of knitting term?

The tunnel bit makes no sense because only the players use the tunnel, not scarf-wearing fans.

All in all it's a pretty awful poem.

Really weird and sums them up perfectly. According to AI: "From funnel to tunnel" is a phrase used in the maritime industry, particularly by engineers and those involved in ship maintenance. It refers to the routine daily rounds or inspections that engineers must make in the engine room of a ship. This phrase highlights the arduous and potentially demanding nature of their work, often involving climbing many stairs and navigating a noisy, confined space."

In other words, absolutely no meaningful analogy to football whatsoever. Unless you count Romanov's submarine. Definitely a tinpot effort from a bottom 6 club.

[bingo70]

Extraordinary.

Reasons why they lost.

1. Aberdeen scored more goals
2. Only one shot on target by the Yam
3. Negative tactics in replacing 2 forwards with 2 defenders
4. Both sendings off were correct - Devlin should have been sent off well before the 118th minute

Hilarious statement.

Is there a way of finding out how many fouls each player committed in that game?

I thought Devlin was always in the referees face, exaggerating injuries and faking head knocks, I would be interested to find out how many fouls he actually committed though.

I asked chat GPT, they came back saying it was only 2 fouls, that can’t be right though.

[Carheenlea]

The bravest band of young warriors since Macraes Battalion.

To pay tribute to their selfless endeavours, commemorative club ties will be available soon from the Hearts club shop.

[jacomo]

Hearts fans are ridiculous.

They have multiple threads on JKB variously demanding a replay, suggesting Beaton has it in for them, that the board need to "call out Beaton", complaining about the red cards, demanding that the FoH call this and that out - and most hilariously - asking the last time it "felt fair".

I mean, all fitba fans have short memories, but none of them asked about fairness when they took Vlads non-existent money and bought a couple of cup wins, all of them giggled when we had goals chalked off that clearly hit the back of the net etc etc etc etc .

They should be asking about why - with all the tens of millions pumped in by FoH and James Anderson - they are moving into their 14th consecutive season without a trophy.


Budge made the victim mentality official club policy, and it seems they revel in it.

Embarrassing stuff.

[Springbank]

The ref got the decisions spot on

Horrific defender fouls pacey winger as last man?

Beaton was well positioned (even Jambos have to admit that)

He gave a red

VAR checked it

VAR correctly upheld the red

Cue - hearts statement in crayon

wE cAnNaE aCcEpT wE aRe rUbBiSh - bLaMe tHe rEf

[Not In The Know]

Them releasing a statement like that is embarrassing. How anyone can argue the first was not a straight red is hilarious. Playing devils advocate Devlin’s second yellow was harsh as he was just swiping at the ball. Massive but tho. The wee fud was still lucky to be on the pitch. So get it roond yeh!!

The entitlement they have thinking that’s what cost them. Their manger took the two players of at half time most likely to get them a goal. Fatty shankland had to tap out as he’s so unfit. Terrible management.

[CentreLine]

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My god, do they they not do full stops? As for the content, where would you start to find any sense in that statement? Must have been some director’s eight year old that put that gem together.

[hibsbollah]

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:faf: brilliant.

Looks like something a stable genius would have come up with.

[degenerated]

I see the SFA have bowed to the pressure of that hearts statement and have issued them with 2 trophies as an apology and have allowed them to parade their lost the semi trophy on an open top bus.

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[O'Rourke3]

Reminds me of the sort of stuff the huns used to release when Traynor did their comms. Pitiful 'how dare you' bleating.

Suck it up yams. You haven't been good enough all season, that's all.

Ah Mr Traynor and the use of concomitant. Which ironically describes the certainty of this one from Los Jambos.:cb

[The Harp Awakes]

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Wow! I thought it was just the big huns who published drivel like that.

Every time Devlin tackles he risks a yellow. He plays on the edge every game and could have easily had a 2nd yellow before he did. The first red was an easy decision and 100% correct.

Beaton is useless for sure, but he didn't do much wrong on Saturday. Hearts have totally embarrassed themselves with that statement. Every other club in Scotland will be p1ssing themselves laughing at them.

[Donegal Hibby]

Besides the strange tactics in taking off his quickest forwards . Devlin was booked on the 77th minute and Critchley went on to make 3 substitutes after that , one a midfielder that wasn’t booked , surely Critchley must have considered the way Devlin plays ( dirty b……) that there was a high risk of him picking up another yellow and it was another mistake on his part again in this game 🤔

[Alfred E Newman]

They should be thanking Beaton not critising him. He has helped save them from an absolute horsing in the final.

[HoboHarry]

Ah Mr Traynor and the use of concomitant. Which ironically describes the certainty of this one from Los Jambos.:cb
Think it was Dave King that used concomitant was it not?

[He's here!]

Having spent several minutes googling that I'll never get back, it's related to this I think - https://www.fanchants.com/football-songs/hearts-chants/were-going-europe/

Jeez, that's dreadful enough without using it as the inspiration for their season ticket push! It trumps their Romanov era 'beachwear' effort.

Mind you, if the powers that be at Hearts read the poem and thought 'Yes! THIS is what we need to shift tickets' the they're in reassuringly nutjob hands.

[007]

Whine, whine, whine.

They've got enough defenders at the winning goal. Penrice makes a half-hearted back-turned jump to try and block the cross. Baningime fails to track his man and Kent switches off allowing Dabbagh to tap in the rebound.

Both Hearts players deserved their reds but I am happy for their fans (and pundits/"journalists" like Barry Anderson) to blame Beaton for their plucky defeat and let Critchley and the players off the hook, if it buys Critchley more time.

Critchley said they weren't able to cover the width of the box but as you point out it is due to bad defending and nothing to do with the dirty cheating bassa correctly getting a 2nd yellow. They only actually lasted 18 seconds when down to 9 i.e. from when the free kick was taken until the ball hit the net. 😂😂😂

[cubehindthegoal]

Beaton has helped them massively in the past

He also helped them on Saturday by keeping devlin on the park for as long as he did. Eventually got to the stage his ignoring said players actions had become too much, and he knew it.

[JimBHibees]

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/blogs/news/club-statement-scottish-cup-semi-final


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A lot of words saying absolutely nothing. Gimps

[Bishop Hibee]

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/blogs/news/club-statement-scottish-cup-semi-final


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Absolute gold. Playing to the deluded ‘owners’ of their ailing club. Pleasing!

[Real Emerald]

I can’t stand Beaton but the first red card was 100% correct. The first yellow for Devlin was 100% right. He had been warned on a few occasions to calm down after getting involved, leaving a boot or elbow in, pushing players when they were down and rolling around making out he was victim. His second yellow should have came much earlier and even though he was probably harshly done by for the one that eventually got him, you reap what you sow.

The fact they can blame Devlin's sending off for the winning goal is also laughable as they still had nine players defending a free kick, how on earth can they claim the goal was caused by his sending off. It probably on its own didn’t deserve a yellow but it has to be a free kick. The fact he goes around lunging into everyone and generally fouls people for 90 or 118 minutes is absolutely part of why the dirty wee rat was sent off. Suck it up.

He’s an absolute liability and the manager has to take the blame for leaving him on the park.

[007]

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What a pathetic bunch of f*#%?ng losers. It's hilarious.

The supreme gaslighter McKinlay has obviously been reading social media and is panicking over how much blame he's getting over the mess they are in so has put out that statement as a deflection tactic. As others have said, it's very Rangers.

[cubehindthegoal]

Just like their sticky bun brothers, zero shame !

This is so true. I’m so glad I’m a Hibs fan. I couldn’t stay supporting either of those clubs if I’d been born unlucky, they both have simply cheated: either using money they didn’t actually have, or stealing money from people - including charities they purport to be in line with, I mean, wow - or simply using fraudulent business practices and then relying on the bias of the people who have ingrained themselves into Scottish Football hierarchy to allow them to just wipe their fraud and stealing, and return unblemished (in their own eyes).

[cubehindthegoal]

A lot of words saying absolutely nothing. Gimps

Hilarious.

Isn’t it about time the sticky buns and the mini buns started to issue joint statements about how the authorities aren’t enabling them enough.

Got to laugh. To see themselves as others see them…

[Carheenlea]

https://i.postimg.cc/G2kHbb8c/IMG-6621.jpg (https://postimg.cc/mzgbwfyq)

[Hibs Go Bragh]

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/blogs/news/club-statement-scottish-cup-semi-final


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I’m guessing season ticket sales have dried up and they’re having to try and get the hordes back on side!

[Bostonhibby]

I’m guessing season ticket sales have dried up and they’re having to try and get the hordes back on side!400,000 fans and a "waiting list" of several thousand so shouldn't be a problem.

There gonna need a bigger stadium.

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[hibsbollah]

https://i.postimg.cc/G2kHbb8c/IMG-6621.jpg (https://postimg.cc/mzgbwfyq)

:faf:

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Imagine - just imagine - if they’d have been on the wrong end of a result in 2012!

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/latest-hearts-news/hearts-lash-out-at-john-beaton-with-484-word-statement-after-controversy-in-aberdeen-scottish-cup-semi-final-5092325

May they rot in purgatory for eternity.

[truehibernian]

It’s the “against all odds” line that’s incredible - it was Aberdeen you were playing with 10 men, not Paris St Germain 😂

9 man Inverness beating 11 man Hearts on penalties was against all odds though 😜

[Hibs4185]

Should be a statue in Haymarket to the brave players who took part in the semi final and paid the ultimate sacrifice in bravery

[Kato]

Both Hearts players deserved their reds but I am happy for their fans (and pundits/"journalists" like Barry Anderson) to blame Beaton for their plucky defeat and let Critchley and the players off the hook, if it buys Critchley more time.

Critchley said they weren't able to cover the width of the box but as you point out it is due to bad defending and nothing to do with the dirty cheating bassa correctly getting a 2nd yellow. They only actually lasted 18 seconds when down to 9 i.e. from when the free kick was taken until the ball hit the net. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]Every Hearts player in the box is allowing their Aberdeen counterpart to be goal side as the ball comes in from McGrath.

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[Not In The Know]

One of the biggest clubs in the country (5th) calling out and naming a ref like that is not acceptable. Look what happened to Paul Mcginn, they should be held accountable

[greenlex]

I’m guessing season ticket sales have dried up and they’re having to try and get the hordes back on side!
Maybe more the monthly contribution to FOH is quickly dwindling when they see their cash being pissed up against a wall.

[bingo70]

https://x.com/lfdons/status/1914384020055445594?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

Just in case anyone needed a reminder why Devlin saw red and it wasn’t just the second yellow!

[Waxy]

This is what a season looks like when you dont get a penalty every week.
You’ve been well and truly Beaton.

[Carheenlea]

“the poor decision from john beaton was the one to keep him on the pitch for that long”

https://x.com/lfdons/status/1914384020055445594?s=46

[Bridge hibs]

Should be a statue in Haymarket to the brave players who took part in the semi final and paid the ultimate sacrifice in bravery

New hearts bravery statue to be unveiled

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[007]

Every Hearts player in the box is allowing their Aberdeen counterpart to be goal side as the ball comes in from McGrath.

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Correct. Awful defending.

I see they're claiming the goal was scored from the area where Devlin would have been, which is BS but even if it were true then maybe one of the players loitering near the edge of/outside the 18 yard box should have been covering that area instead.

https://i.ibb.co/twt9qRxn/Screenshot-20250421-184727-BBC-i-Player.jpg (https://ibb.co/p68SfqRN)

[hibsbollah]

New hearts bravery statue to be unveiled

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He ain’t heavy

[Bridge hibs]

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[Aldo]

https://x.com/lfdons/status/1914384020055445594?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

Just in case anyone needed a reminder why Devlin saw red and it wasn’t just the second yellow!

By the letter of the law he should have picked up his second yellow card for kicking the ball away and wasting time.

When you see that it makes an absolute mockery of their statement. He actually did them a favour allowing him to remain on the field longer.

[He's here!]

“the poor decision from john beaton was the one to keep him on the pitch for that long”

https://x.com/lfdons/status/1914384020055445594?s=46

Clearly very lucky to have been on the pitch as long as he was.

[matty_f]

By the letter of the law he should have picked up his second yellow card for kicking the ball away and wasting time.

When you see that it makes an absolute mockery of their statement. He actually did them a favour allowing him to remain on the field longer.

There’s a clear yellow for dissent there as well.


The statement is wild. And hilarious.

I use the term “gaslighting” a lot these days, because it’s become the norm for people to expect you to ignore what you see and hear with your own eyes and ears in favour of a version of events that distorts reality.

Hearts are at it here. The problem is, it works. We saw Willie Collum sit and watch and listen to a VAR referee talk through how he saw a ball go out of play against Celtic, and then a ball hit a Dundee United player’s arm before telling us that VAR couldn’t tell for either of the incidents. And folk bought it.

Hearts win talk about how they were hard done by in that game and it’s nonsense. It’s brilliant that folk are actively challenging it rather than the complicit media just parroting comments and statements without question.

[mcohibs]

‘From funnel to tunnel’
‘Blood doesn’t show on a maroon jersey’
‘Gorgie rules apply’

Heart of Midlothian, a club with an incredible knack for churning out absolute meaningless word vomit and passing it off as a bold motto.

Like they’ve used ChatGPT but the source material is the McCrae’s Battalion book and the drunk ramblings of a cardigan wearing tramp.

[K-Zazu]

“the poor decision from john beaton was the one to keep him on the pitch for that long”

https://x.com/lfdons/status/1914384020055445594?s=46

Wow and they released a statement 😂😂. He should have been booked for booting the ball away.

[Aldo]

There’s a clear yellow for dissent there as well.


The statement is wild. And hilarious.

I use the term “gaslighting” a lot these days, because it’s become the norm for people to expect you to ignore what you see and hear with your own eyes and ears in favour of a version of events that distorts reality.

Hearts are at it here. The problem is, it works. We saw Willie Collum sit and watch and listen to a VAR referee talk through how he saw a ball go out of play against Celtic, and then a ball hit a Dundee United player’s arm before telling us that VAR couldn’t tell for either of the incidents. And folk bought it.

Hearts win talk about how they were hard done by in that game and it’s nonsense. It’s brilliant that folk are actively challenging it rather than the complicit media just parroting comments and statements without question.

You are not wrong about ‘Gaslighting’. Critch’d it, Gordon and now those in the higher echelons of Tiny Park are at it. O and let’s not forget allisbarry and his rhetoric on the critical decisions made by Beaton during that game.

Deflect, deflect, deflect is all they can do to hide their failings throughout the season and it’s all everyone else’s fault.

Long may it continue is what I say.

[Not In The Know]

‘From funnel to tunnel’
‘Blood doesn’t show on a maroon jersey’
‘Gorgie rules apply’

Heart of Midlothian, a club with an incredible knack for churning out absolute meaningless word vomit and passing it off as a bold motto.

Like they’ve used ChatGPT but the source material is the McCrae’s Battalion book and the drunk ramblings of a cardigan wearing tramp.

I reckon that vid was an almighty fail of an attempt to come up with their Sunshine on Leith alt moment?

Cringe!

[007]

“the poor decision from john beaton was the one to keep him on the pitch for that long”

https://x.com/lfdons/status/1914384020055445594?s=46

And I reckon there were other fouls he got away with. He was going flying into challenges, not getting the ball but getting a bit of the player and was then going down holding his head trying to buy fouls. He's a dirty cheating bassa and I'm delighted he got a red and the resultant free-kick led to the goal that ended their season.

[bingo70]

There’s a clear yellow for dissent there as well.


The statement is wild. And hilarious.

I use the term “gaslighting” a lot these days, because it’s become the norm for people to expect you to ignore what you see and hear with your own eyes and ears in favour of a version of events that distorts reality.

Hearts are at it here. The problem is, it works. We saw Willie Collum sit and watch and listen to a VAR referee talk through how he saw a ball go out of play against Celtic, and then a ball hit a Dundee United player’s arm before telling us that VAR couldn’t tell for either of the incidents. And folk bought it.

Hearts win talk about how they were hard done by in that game and it’s nonsense. It’s brilliant that folk are actively challenging it rather than the complicit media just parroting comments and statements without question.

Would be nice for the SFA to come out and publicly support their referee.

[Donegal Hibby]

“the poor decision from john beaton was the one to keep him on the pitch for that long”

https://x.com/lfdons/status/1914384020055445594?s=46

Clearly shows how lucky he was to last as long as he did . One of the dirtiest players in the league with limited ability. It’s not the first time I seen him getting away with murder , surprised he’s not sent off more though another poster did say they normally take him off when he’s been booked if that’s true .

[Nicho87]

Hoping that after Paul McGinn spoke off poor refereeing decisions in an after match interview

Hearts releasing a statement some two days after the event the sfa referees really hold a grudge and make some great decisions in years to come

[Hibees1973]

On reflection, today's Yam statement is gold.

The public outpouring of tears and snotters from that lot makes them a target of ridicule for the SPFL/SFA. Also, from other clubs and their supporters in Scotland.

Hasn't every club in the SPFL had referee/VAR decisions work against them. However, it's not a points scoring exercise and cannot be evened up as the Yam have stated. And this is why the Yam statement is a joke. The refereeing/VAR decisions on Saturday were correct. Clear and obvious errors were not made.

The whole Yam statement doesn't accept any responsibility for their own failings on Saturday and no recognition that they finished in the bottom 6, on merit, after 33 games.

If Hibs came out with this guff it would be embarrassing for us.

The current regime at Hibs have made mistakes and we have had the misfortune to watch sides recently who have shown as much ability and bottle the Yam did on Saturday.

But Hibs have not resorted to ridiculous statements such as the Yam have today.

[Greentinted]

I see the SFA have bowed to the pressure of that hearts statement and have issued them with 2 trophies as an apology and have allowed them to parade their lost the semi trophy on an open top bus.

28707 28708 28709

The only silverware they’re winning anytime soon is The Bling of Wishful Thinking!

[O'Rourke3]

Think it was Dave King that used concomitant was it not?Think the Head of Comms may have written the statement.....

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[Silky]

By the letter of the law he should have picked up his second yellow card for kicking the ball away and wasting time.

When you see that it makes an absolute mockery of their statement. He actually did them a favour allowing him to remain on the field longer.

He was lucky. Beaton booked Shankland for kicking the ball away in the derby at Easter Road, and should have done it there as well. The display of dissent should also have been a booking.

[Ralphy C]

I must the the only one who thought a second booking was right. I think he had to put a foot in and was unlucky but he's kicked under his foot and took him out at the edge of the box. It's a booking. Hearts statement is embarrassing but to be expected from a football club who rather than look within at why it's a bottom 6 club would rather deflect and blame everyone else. It's in their nature to act in this way.

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i remember Martin Boyle did something similar against Aberdeen during the covid season and they got a penalty, cant mind if he got booked though.

[cubehindthegoal]

There’s a clear yellow for dissent there as well.


The statement is wild. And hilarious.

I use the term “gaslighting” a lot these days, because it’s become the norm for people to expect you to ignore what you see and hear with your own eyes and ears in favour of a version of events that distorts reality.

Hearts are at it here. The problem is, it works. We saw Willie Collum sit and watch and listen to a VAR referee talk through how he saw a ball go out of play against Celtic, and then a ball hit a Dundee United player’s arm before telling us that VAR couldn’t tell for either of the incidents. And folk bought it.

Hearts win talk about how they were hard done by in that game and it’s nonsense. It’s brilliant that folk are actively challenging it rather than the complicit media just parroting comments and statements without question.

It would be good to see the SFA lift their butts off their comfy sofas and give reply with even some of the examples we have here, and - for example - let hearts know they were lucky to have devlin still on the field .. but then, the SFA would then have to admit hearts were being given an unfair benefit in the match … so … not going to happen.

Watch it die down into nothingness now … when what should happen is their statement brings to light the truth of it. They are playing the sevco statement card … and being allowed to.

Do you ever wonder why our club refrains from that ? My guess is, we never get away with what others do.

Same old.

[Donegal Hibby]

I can’t help feeling that Willie Collums handling of the Muir situation hasn’t helped this current one and he’s probably put himself under unnecessary pressure in if he doesn’t agree with hertz on this (which he shouldn’t) you know how they’re going to react in it’s a greater injustice on them because he agreed with Celtic and for some strange/ bizarre reason that I can’t see happening in if he agrees with hertz would this create more problems in the future? .

[cubehindthegoal]

Just read their statement in full, after a couple attempts, as had to dry the tears from my eyes at times.

Where to start ? Hmm

.. “ neither yellow card issued to Cammy Devlin in the match was warranted and we should not have been put in the position of having to finish the game with nine men, which directly affected the outcome.”

- ok, so let’s give you some leeway here, even though you are wrong … then, what about the other actions of said player during the match, that should have been yellow carded, and weren’t ? No comment from you on that ? No surprise there … silence, didn’t see it, blinkered ..

“against all odds”

- lol … well, if you’re player hadn’t brought down a man through on goal, and if the other one hadn’t done enough to deserve at least two red cards during the game, and was lucky to have been on the field for so long if truth be told .. well .. you would have kept your odds at around evens .. so quite simply, it was your own fault for the odds going against you .. perhaps then, consider being honest and hold your hands up, and issue an honest statement of facts next time .. or better still, for you that is … I’m being kind here … just shush … and don’t embarrass yourselves and your fans even more ..

“the players had earned the opportunity to take the match to penalty kicks”

- oh dear, how embarrassing to even say that out loud to all .. oh my ..

“However, a cursory glance”

- how professional .. lol

“see acknowledgement as to when they are indeed wrong and determine what can be done to learn from them to ensure that they are not repeated.”

- so, you’ll “see” it for sure? Right then. And, hope this helps, one way to learn from it … teach your players not to foul like they did ? Just an idea.

Pathetic is being redefined in the dictionary as we speak. What were they thinking.

[007]

I see they are claiming Beaton has it in for them because they've lost 55% of matches when he's been the ref. What they are overlooking is that Beaton usually gets given the big games and we know that they bottle it in the big games, so if anything it's a surprise the loss ratio is only 55%. Squealing @rseholes! 🐷🐷🐷 With the amount of squealing coming from there, folk had thought Gorgie Farm had reopened.

[SaulGoodman]

I see they are claiming Beaton has it in for them because they've lost 55% of matches when he's been the ref. What they are overlooking is that Beaton usually gets given the big games and we know that they bottle it in the big games, so if anything it's a surprise the loss ratio is only 55%. Squealing @rseholes! 🐷🐷🐷 With the amount of squealing coming from there, folk had thought Gorgie Farm had reopened.

I think being a **** diddy irrelevant team with nothing but illusions of grandeur might be more of a reason that they’ve lost 55% of matches Beaton has been involved in.

[matty_f]

Just read their statement in full, after a couple attempts, as had to dry the tears from my eyes at times.

Where to start ? Hmm

.. “ neither yellow card issued to Cammy Devlin in the match was warranted and we should not have been put in the position of having to finish the game with nine men, which directly affected the outcome.”

- ok, so let’s give you some leeway here, even though you are wrong … then, what about the other actions of said player during the match, that should have been yellow carded, and weren’t ? No comment from you on that ? No surprise there … silence, didn’t see it, blinkered ..

“against all odds”

- lol … well, if you’re player hadn’t brought down a man through on goal, and if the other one hadn’t done enough to deserve at least two red cards during the game, and was lucky to have been on the field for so long if truth be told .. well .. you would have kept your odds at around evens .. so quite simply, it was your own fault for the odds going against you .. perhaps then, consider being honest and hold your hands up, and issue an honest statement of facts next time .. or better still, for you that is … I’m being kind here … just shush … and don’t embarrass yourselves and your fans even more ..

“the players had earned the opportunity to take the match to penalty kicks”

- oh dear, how embarrassing to even say that out loud to all .. oh my ..

“However, a cursory glance”

- how professional .. lol

“see acknowledgement as to when they are indeed wrong and determine what can be done to learn from them to ensure that they are not repeated.”

- so, you’ll “see” it for sure? Right then. And, hope this helps, one way to learn from it … teach your players not to foul like they did ? Just an idea.

Pathetic is being redefined in the dictionary as we speak. What were they thinking.
Being upset that referees haven’t got stuff wrong in their favour - keep in mind that you’re looking at a difference of one or two decisions from the average over the course of 33 games, is mental.

The inference that the referee got these decisions wrong is mental and really unfair on the officials - similar to the reaction from Dundee United and Celtic who insisted correct decisions were wrong because they didn’t like the process to arrive at the right decision.

Hearts muddying the waters by bringing VAR decisions into it helps nobody. It just heaps more pressure on an already burdened group of officials.

[bingo70]

Being upset that referees haven’t got stuff wrong in their favour - keep in mind that you’re looking at a difference of one or two decisions from the average over the course of 33 games, is mental.

The inference that the referee got these decisions wrong is mental and really unfair on the officials - similar to the reaction from Dundee United and Celtic who insisted correct decisions were wrong because they didn’t like the process to arrive at the right decision.

Hearts muddying the waters by bringing VAR decisions into it helps nobody. It just heaps more pressure on an already burdened group of officials.

Don’t think it was mentioned in the statement but the criticism he got his red card out for the first one was mental too.

“Yes, we know he got the decision correct but he got it correct too quickly…..”

How does that make any sense?

[Aldo]

Being upset that referees haven’t got stuff wrong in their favour - keep in mind that you’re looking at a difference of one or two decisions from the average over the course of 33 games, is mental.

The inference that the referee got these decisions wrong is mental and really unfair on the officials - similar to the reaction from Dundee United and Celtic who insisted correct decisions were wrong because they didn’t like the process to arrive at the right decision.

Hearts muddying the waters by bringing VAR decisions into it helps nobody. It just heaps more pressure on an already burdened group of officials.

I think they fail to see what is glaringly obvious. Their players discipline. Devlin went about kicking everything in sight, feigning injury and from what I saw shouting at the ref. He could have and should have been sent off before his kick at the Aberdeen player.

They have achieved their aim by taking the spotlight off of what is another abject failure for them a week after failing to make the top 6.

I can only hope Beaton is backed by the powers that be and they come out with backing for him.

[green day]

I think they fail to see what is glaringly obvious. Their players discipline. Devlin went about kicking everything in sight, feigning injury and from what I saw shouting at the ref. He could have and should have been sent off before his kick at the Aberdeen player.

They have achieved their aim by taking the spotlight off of what is another abject failure for them a week after failing to make the top 6.

I can only hope Beaton is backed by the powers that be and they come out with backing for him.

Devlin has been doing this since his arrival in Scottish football. He (a bit like Shinnie) gets away with foul after foul and is constantly narking at the ref.

Oh, and as that Aberdeen fans video noted, even ignoring his foul count, he could (and should) have got a second booking for either talking back to the ref, or kicking the ball away.

The fact that he has - for once - paid the price for this crap doesnt make up for the multiple times hes been allowed to stay on the pitch.

[blackpoolhibs]

Don’t think it was mentioned in the statement but the criticism he got his red card out for the first one was mental too.

“Yes, we know he got the decision correct but he got it correct too quickly…..”

How does that make any sense?

Ah but look how quickly he got it out, faster than any ref in history. :greengrin

[jacomo]

My god, do they they not do full stops? As for the content, where would you start to find any sense in that statement? Must have been some director’s eight year old that put that gem together.


Or Anne Budge... she sounds like the deranged elderly relative who makes you shudder every time they post on Facebook.

[we are hibs]

I must've missed the evening news claiming Craig Thompson or Kevin Clancy were a problem for Hibs over the past 15 years.



Seems like a Hearts mouthpiece of an outlet to me.. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250422/2a9ff48add21dfe47e5c64d486e3b7e2.jpg

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[Aldo]

Devlin has been doing this since his arrival in Scottish football. He (a bit like Shinnie) gets away with foul after foul and is constantly narking at the ref.

Oh, and as that Aberdeen fans video noted, even ignoring his foul count, he could (and should) have got a second booking for either talking back to the ref, or kicking the ball away.

The fact that he has - for once - paid the price for this crap doesnt make up for the multiple times hes been allowed to stay on the pitch.


Your bit about the video is again clearly shows they see what they want not actually looking at the facts.

All in all though they’ve made themselves look pretty daft but as I’ve said they’ve achieved their aim by deflecting their own failings.

The comments from ex referee Des Roache, who I hear you ask, in the morning rags, stating Beaton got it wrong with Devlins yellows are quite funny. From what I can see he officiated in 3 championship games and two league cups games in 2014/15 so make of that what you will.
So well versed in BIG games!

[Aldo]

I must've missed the evening news claiming Craig Thompson or Kevin Clancy were a problem for Hibs over the past 15 years.



Seems like a Hearts mouthpiece of an outlet to me.. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250422/2a9ff48add21dfe47e5c64d486e3b7e2.jpg

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Allisbarry and co have been fed this pish from the minute the final whistle went. The 6 crucial or critical incidents piece by them was another desperate measure to deflect what we all know really happened.

[Carheenlea]

Or Anne Budge... she sounds like the deranged elderly relative who makes you shudder every time they post on Facebook.

First person I thought of as being the author of the statement was Budge. Can almost hear her voice as you read.

[Fifeshirehibs]

Looks like they want to challenge Sevco for the statement o'clock title.

[Carheenlea]

SFA must be preparing to make a censure against Hearts in the next day so.

If not publicly, certainly privately.

Maybe the thinking is to let them cool down a bit first, but then again, they are still throwing toys out the pram about a penalty they claim went against them months ago so perhaps not.

[bingo70]

SFA must be preparing to make a censure against Hearts in the next day so.

If not publicly, certainly privately.

Maybe the thinking is to let them cool down a bit first, but then again, they are still throwing toys out the pram about a penalty they claim went against them months ago so perhaps not.

They need to be doing more to support their referee.

It’s currently open season on him despite the fact he got the big calls correct. He’s being accused of having an agenda against a member club and for being incompetent. When he’s made mistakes I get why they can’t be too defensive of him but when he’s clearly in the right, he should get some pub kick backing from his bosses.

[Since90+2]

😂😂😂

Hear7s are a laughing stock.

[Springbank]

They need to be doing more to support their referee.

It’s currently open season on him despite the fact he got the big calls correct. He’s being accused of having an agenda against a member club and for being incompetent. When he’s made mistakes I get why they can’t be too defensive of him but when he’s clearly in the right, he should get some pub kick backing from his bosses.

I agree - John Beaton got all the decisions right

And do you know why - he was in a great position for every incident

Given the first red was during a speedy counter attack, that means Beaton outpaced the Hearts midfield as he ran to keep up with play

I'd suggest Hearts might want to reflect on that (their team being outrun and outpaced by the ref) rather than juvenile whinging

[we are hibs]

The thing is, there will be plenty decisions over the years that hearts could be justly angry about. It happens to every club where a ref does them over with a decision or throughout a game.


Its just mental they've chosen this game and those decisions to be the one they kick up **** about.

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[Not In The Know]

The Hoardes are getting whipped into a frenzy with this nonsense. All it takes is some bampot hearts fan (could happen with any team in a similar circumstance) to lamp Beaton or worse when out and about and every single journalist and hearts official post calling him out unnecessarily will be culpable.

[Kato]

The thing is, there will be plenty decisions over the years that hearts could be justly angry about. It happens to every club where a ref does them over with a decision or throughout a game.


Its just mental they've chosen this game and those decisions to be the one they kick up **** about.

Sent from my SM-A405FN using TapatalkThey've just been beaten in a cowardly fashion, couldn't keep their discipline/9 defenders behind the ball, by an Aberdeen side who looked like they were running through porridge.

Their pre-season braggadocio in which they predicted they'd split the OF has been exposed as utter fantasy.

This is 100% an attempt to keep their fans on-side and deflect from their own shortcomings.

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[bringbackbenny]

They've just been beaten in a cowardly fashion, couldn't keep their discipline/9 defenders behind the ball, by an Aberdeen side who looked like they were running through porridge.

Their pre-season braggadocio in which they predicted they'd split the OF has been exposed as utter fantasy.

This is 100% an attempt to keep their fans on-side and deflect from their own shortcomings.

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Exactly- first rate gaslighting whipping the support into anger whilst studiously avoiding their own shortcomings and the bizarre subs by the manager in conceding most possession back to Aberdeen who, btw, were absolute pish on the day.

They could have still sneaked it on the break with 10 men and pace up front, instead the usual jambottle 😄.

[grunt]

SFA must be preparing to make a censure against Hearts in the next day so. If not publicly, certainly privately. Maybe the thinking is to let them cool down a bit first, but then again, they are still throwing toys out the pram about a penalty they claim went against them months ago so perhaps not.
I'm still angry about a penalty that was incorrectly given against us 13 years ago.

[McD]

Just read their statement in full, after a couple attempts, as had to dry the tears from my eyes at times.

Where to start ? Hmm

.. “ neither yellow card issued to Cammy Devlin in the match was warranted and we should not have been put in the position of having to finish the game with nine men, which directly affected the outcome.”

- ok, so let’s give you some leeway here, even though you are wrong … then, what about the other actions of said player during the match, that should have been yellow carded, and weren’t ? No comment from you on that ? No surprise there … silence, didn’t see it, blinkered ..

“against all odds”

- lol … well, if you’re player hadn’t brought down a man through on goal, and if the other one hadn’t done enough to deserve at least two red cards during the game, and was lucky to have been on the field for so long if truth be told .. well .. you would have kept your odds at around evens .. so quite simply, it was your own fault for the odds going against you .. perhaps then, consider being honest and hold your hands up, and issue an honest statement of facts next time .. or better still, for you that is … I’m being kind here … just shush … and don’t embarrass yourselves and your fans even more ..

“the players had earned the opportunity to take the match to penalty kicks”

- oh dear, how embarrassing to even say that out loud to all .. oh my ..

“However, a cursory glance”

- how professional .. lol

“see acknowledgement as to when they are indeed wrong and determine what can be done to learn from them to ensure that they are not repeated.”

- so, you’ll “see” it for sure? Right then. And, hope this helps, one way to learn from it … teach your players not to foul like they did ? Just an idea.

Pathetic is being redefined in the dictionary as we speak. What were they thinking.



This bit cracks me up, it’s complete strawman. The players demonstrably had not earned the opportunity to go to penalties as the match hadn’t finished yet. They cannot have earned that until the match is finished as a draw. The match lasts for 90 minutes, with another 30 added on as extra time, not another 26! That claim is right up there with the infamous ‘if it wasn’t for the goal posts we’d have won’ nonsense.


Craig Gordon is a hoot as well - you conceded an own goal because you refuse to come off your line, and you palmed the ball into the Aberdeen forward’s path for an easy finish, you are the biggest reason hearts lost, yet you’re greeting about a yellow card given as if the red had given a dodgy penalty :faf:

[Since452]

Hearts will definitely finish top 6 in the statement league table. Fair play to them. Up there with winning the women's derby and proclaiming Edinburgh is maroon while the men's team battle relegation. They've lost the plot as a football club. Great to see.

[Crazyhorse]

What’s the “ritual old as time itself” stuff 😂 are they claiming the Big Bang theory too ?

Right enough, that was when there was a hot, dense state that’s expanded ever since - perfectly summing up their CEO and their collective “wisdom” and egos 😁

Seems to be some bollox about the scarf my father wore in there too. Maybe they are targeting a new customer base…

[Bostonhibby]

Ah but look how quickly he got it out, faster than any ref in history. :greengrinGuy was just trying to manage time efficiently to give Hearts brave fightback the most time possible. They can't have it both ways. FFS they were on the verge of winning the match.

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[JeMeSouviens]

They've just been beaten in a cowardly fashion, couldn't keep their discipline/9 defenders behind the ball, by an Aberdeen side who looked like they were running through porridge.

Their pre-season braggadocio in which they predicted they'd split the OF has been exposed as utter fantasy.

This is 100% an attempt to keep their fans on-side and deflect from their own shortcomings.

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Which, to be fair, will help keep the Critch in post. So, all in all, to be encouraged. :agree:

[Kato]

Which, to be fair, will help keep the Critch in post. So, all in all, to be encouraged. :agree:Accepted, go jambos.

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[Bushwoof]

“the players had earned the opportunity to take the match to penalty kicks”


That's absolutely correct. They did indeed have the opportunity to take the game to a shoot-out, which sadly they then blew with 2 minutes remaining. What they hadn't done was earned the right to actually participate in a shoot-out. Shame.

[hibsbollah]

Seems to be some bollox about the scarf my father wore in there too. Maybe they are targeting a new customer base…

The Scarf My Father Twirled.

Seriously, what a bunch of amateur clowns. What sort of travelling circus statement will they put out next. Or will they just use their proxies at sportsound to stamp their feet and throw their crayons about.

They. Were. Both. Red card offences. The gaslighting is next level.

[SaulGoodman]

I’m enjoying reading the argument that “It wasn’t a foul, Devlin was trying to kick the ball, he didn’t mean to kick the Aberdeen player”

Eh, aye. That describes 90% of fouls. 9 times out of 10 they are trying to kick the ball and not the player 😂

[Hibernian Verse]

I’m enjoying reading the argument that “It wasn’t a foul, Devlin was trying to kick the ball, he didn’t mean to kick the Aberdeen player”

Eh, aye. That describes 90% of fouls. 9 times out of 10 they are trying to kick the ball and not the player 😂

To be fair to them on this occasion, it is out of character for Devlin to attempt to play the ball.

[matty_f]

I’m enjoying reading the argument that “It wasn’t a foul, Devlin was trying to kick the ball, he didn’t mean to kick the Aberdeen player”

Eh, aye. That describes 90% of fouls. 9 times out of 10 they are trying to kick the ball and not the player 😂

I **** you not, the “referee’s view” referees argued with us on twitter a while back that a particular challenge wasn’t a foul because they tried to win the ball.

They’re meant to be the experts! It was a mental response, like you say, most fouls are a result of trying to get the ball and getting it wrong.

[Paul1642]

Some of the narrative around this is beyond bizarre. I watched the game, and the second half / most of extra time is some of the most boring football I’ve ever seen.

Aberdeen were rotten.

Hearts were also poor, even with 11 players.

Both sending offs were correct, and even if not stonewall, they were far from being scandalous. I’ve multiple less deserving red cards given on Sportscene this season alone. Manneh’s two yellows against St Mirren from a Hibs perspective were considerably softer than Deveins.

But worst of all this the ‘brave battle against all odds’ nonsense. They somehow managed to play with their back to the wall against the most toothless Aberdeen performance you’ll see in a long time. The same Aberdeen side who chucked a 2 goal advantage against a 10 man second string rangers side the week before.

The word gaslighting is overused but it couldn’t be more appropriate. Hearts weren’t good enough and were the creators of their own failure. They didn’t even last 2 minutes with 9 players before conceding.

If it helps keeps Critchley in a job then let them believe whatever delusions they want.

[Winston Ingram]

Stolen from @scotlandscoeff1 on Twitter

https://x.com/scotlandscoeff1/status/1914660469509345479?s=61&t=WQcv92feu62WUfbidLejfg

‘ I love a Scottish football head loss and accompanying club statement as much as the next person. Very entertaining. However, my two cents on Hearts' statement yesterday - specifically the fact they referenced the KMI panel. Also my view on the (incomplete) John Beaton stats being shared which are resulting in headlines such as the below: "John Beaton is a problem". These incomplete stats of a referee's 'record' taken in isolation don't give the full picture.

1.) KMI panel is a lot of *****. Dundee United pulled out of it. It's a panel of 5 people & 3 of them are coaches, players or media analysts giving their opinion - they are not experts in the laws of the game. It is NOT the SFA agreeing there was an error made, and often the SFA contradicts the KMI panel the very next week.

2.) Hearts mentioned they have been wronged the 2nd most by VAR as per the KMI panel (4 errors). For one of these 'errors', the head of refereeing at the SFA (Willie Collum) subsequently came out and said it wasn't an error. Removing that 'error' would mean Rangers, Motherwell, Kilmarnock and St. Mirren have all had more 'errors' against them than Hearts (3) this season. St. Mirren have had 6 'errors' against them, per the KMI panel.

3.) Before this season John Beaton hadn't sent a Hearts player off since 2018.

4.) At the start of this season UEFA had a list of 60 first Category refs, which included only two from Scotland (John Beaton and Nick Walsh). This means he is regarded as one of the better refs and will therefore generally manage the 'bigger' games in Scotland. The teams he refereed Hearts against most were Celtic, Rangers and Aberdeen; where a higher loss rate is expected than against the rest of the league.

5.) Hearts are 7th this season with a win rate of 33%. While Beaton has been a top flight ref, Hearts have been relegated twice, and they went down with win rates of 26% (2013/14) & 13% (2019/20). In 2013/14 Beaton refereed a Hearts 2-0 loss in Inverness, a 4-1 loss in Motherwell and a 4-0 loss at home to Killie. The great John Robertson himself could have been the ref 38 times that season and Hearts still would have gone down.

These incomplete stats of a referee's 'record' taken in isolation don't give the full picture....’

[Kato]

Stolen from @scotlandscoeff1 on Twitter

https://x.com/scotlandscoeff1/status/1914660469509345479?s=61&t=WQcv92feu62WUfbidLejfg

‘ I love a Scottish football head loss and accompanying club statement as much as the next person. Very entertaining. However, my two cents on Hearts' statement yesterday - specifically the fact they referenced the KMI panel. Also my view on the (incomplete) John Beaton stats being shared which are resulting in headlines such as the below: "John Beaton is a problem". These incomplete stats of a referee's 'record' taken in isolation don't give the full picture.

1.) KMI panel is a lot of *****. Dundee United pulled out of it. It's a panel of 5 people & 3 of them are coaches, players or media analysts giving their opinion - they are not experts in the laws of the game. It is NOT the SFA agreeing there was an error made, and often the SFA contradicts the KMI panel the very next week.

2.) Hearts mentioned they have been wronged the 2nd most by VAR as per the KMI panel (4 errors). For one of these 'errors', the head of refereeing at the SFA (Willie Collum) subsequently came out and said it wasn't an error. Removing that 'error' would mean Rangers, Motherwell, Kilmarnock and St. Mirren have all had more 'errors' against them than Hearts (3) this season. St. Mirren have had 6 'errors' against them, per the KMI panel.

3.) Before this season John Beaton hadn't sent a Hearts player off since 2018.

4.) At the start of this season UEFA had a list of 60 first Category refs, which included only two from Scotland (John Beaton and Nick Walsh). This means he is regarded as one of the better refs and will therefore generally manage the 'bigger' games in Scotland. The teams he refereed Hearts against most were Celtic, Rangers and Aberdeen; where a higher loss rate is expected than against the rest of the league.

5.) Hearts are 7th this season with a win rate of 33%. While Beaton has been a top flight ref, Hearts have been relegated twice, and they went down with win rates of 26% (2013/14) & 13% (2019/20). In 2013/14 Beaton refereed a Hearts 2-0 loss in Inverness, a 4-1 loss in Motherwell and a 4-0 loss at home to Killie. The great John Robertson himself could have been the ref 38 times that season and Hearts still would have gone down.

These incomplete stats of a referee's 'record' taken in isolation don't give the full picture....’So Hearts are telling lies in their statement, possibly slanderous too. Whoodathunkitt?

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[Archie70]

Stolen from @scotlandscoeff1 on Twitter

https://x.com/scotlandscoeff1/status/1914660469509345479?s=61&t=WQcv92feu62WUfbidLejfg

‘ I love a Scottish football head loss and accompanying club statement as much as the next person. Very entertaining. However, my two cents on Hearts' statement yesterday - specifically the fact they referenced the KMI panel. Also my view on the (incomplete) John Beaton stats being shared which are resulting in headlines such as the below: "John Beaton is a problem". These incomplete stats of a referee's 'record' taken in isolation don't give the full picture.

1.) KMI panel is a lot of *****. Dundee United pulled out of it. It's a panel of 5 people & 3 of them are coaches, players or media analysts giving their opinion - they are not experts in the laws of the game. It is NOT the SFA agreeing there was an error made, and often the SFA contradicts the KMI panel the very next week.

2.) Hearts mentioned they have been wronged the 2nd most by VAR as per the KMI panel (4 errors). For one of these 'errors', the head of refereeing at the SFA (Willie Collum) subsequently came out and said it wasn't an error. Removing that 'error' would mean Rangers, Motherwell, Kilmarnock and St. Mirren have all had more 'errors' against them than Hearts (3) this season. St. Mirren have had 6 'errors' against them, per the KMI panel.

3.) Before this season John Beaton hadn't sent a Hearts player off since 2018.

4.) At the start of this season UEFA had a list of 60 first Category refs, which included only two from Scotland (John Beaton and Nick Walsh). This means he is regarded as one of the better refs and will therefore generally manage the 'bigger' games in Scotland. The teams he refereed Hearts against most were Celtic, Rangers and Aberdeen; where a higher loss rate is expected than against the rest of the league.

5.) Hearts are 7th this season with a win rate of 33%. While Beaton has been a top flight ref, Hearts have been relegated twice, and they went down with win rates of 26% (2013/14) & 13% (2019/20). In 2013/14 Beaton refereed a Hearts 2-0 loss in Inverness, a 4-1 loss in Motherwell and a 4-0 loss at home to Killie. The great John Robertson himself could have been the ref 38 times that season and Hearts still would have gone down.

These incomplete stats of a referee's 'record' taken in isolation don't give the full picture....’


The cherry picking stats are embarrassing, and clearly an attempt to deflect from the performance.

They make no mention of Beatons performance in other semi finals he has refereed involving them. Namely sending off Joe Newall for his first tackle or sending off two Inverness players. To compared their win rate under Beaton to Celtics shows the level of argument they can present. Why were other stats left out Medal Mackays analysis, like Beatons record against other teams or how many players he has booked and sent off against them.
None have the bottle to say Critchey bottled it and threw on every defender they had, never managed a shot on target after they scored, Gordon kept them in it and Devlin could have been off before he was.
Delusional, each and every one of them.

[cubehindthegoal]

I'd suggest Hearts might want to reflect on that (their team being outrun and outpaced by the ref) rather than juvenile whinging

That’s so true and so funny 😂

[CentreLine]

Stolen from @scotlandscoeff1 on Twitter

https://x.com/scotlandscoeff1/status/1914660469509345479?s=61&t=WQcv92feu62WUfbidLejfg

‘ I love a Scottish football head loss and accompanying club statement as much as the next person. Very entertaining. However, my two cents on Hearts' statement yesterday - specifically the fact they referenced the KMI panel. Also my view on the (incomplete) John Beaton stats being shared which are resulting in headlines such as the below: "John Beaton is a problem". These incomplete stats of a referee's 'record' taken in isolation don't give the full picture.

1.) KMI panel is a lot of *****. Dundee United pulled out of it. It's a panel of 5 people & 3 of them are coaches, players or media analysts giving their opinion - they are not experts in the laws of the game. It is NOT the SFA agreeing there was an error made, and often the SFA contradicts the KMI panel the very next week.

2.) Hearts mentioned they have been wronged the 2nd most by VAR as per the KMI panel (4 errors). For one of these 'errors', the head of refereeing at the SFA (Willie Collum) subsequently came out and said it wasn't an error. Removing that 'error' would mean Rangers, Motherwell, Kilmarnock and St. Mirren have all had more 'errors' against them than Hearts (3) this season. St. Mirren have had 6 'errors' against them, per the KMI panel.

3.) Before this season John Beaton hadn't sent a Hearts player off since 2018.

4.) At the start of this season UEFA had a list of 60 first Category refs, which included only two from Scotland (John Beaton and Nick Walsh). This means he is regarded as one of the better refs and will therefore generally manage the 'bigger' games in Scotland. The teams he refereed Hearts against most were Celtic, Rangers and Aberdeen; where a higher loss rate is expected than against the rest of the league.

5.) Hearts are 7th this season with a win rate of 33%. While Beaton has been a top flight ref, Hearts have been relegated twice, and they went down with win rates of 26% (2013/14) & 13% (2019/20). In 2013/14 Beaton refereed a Hearts 2-0 loss in Inverness, a 4-1 loss in Motherwell and a 4-0 loss at home to Killie. The great John Robertson himself could have been the ref 38 times that season and Hearts still would have gone down.

These incomplete stats of a referee's 'record' taken in isolation don't give the full picture....’

What a great post. Measured and accurate, unlike the childish “statement” of our neighbours. Crocodile tears from them and only aimed at keeping their unconvinced fanbase onside.

[hibsbollah]

Paul McGinn got a two game ban on top of his suspension for calling Beaton ‘inept’ and ‘losing control’.

Hearts as an organisation are going further than that, calling his impartiality in hearts games into question, and doubling down on it today. What punishment are we going to see, if any?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59987599.amp

[cubehindthegoal]

I **** you not, the “referee’s view” referees argued with us on twitter a while back that a particular challenge wasn’t a foul because they tried to win the ball.

They’re meant to be the experts! It was a mental response, like you say, most fouls are a result of trying to get the ball and getting it wrong.

Exactly and also, on this occasion, you can see he sees the aberdeen player, yet still decides (which aligns absolutely with this players usual split decisions, as any normal honest fan can see) to follow through with the kick.

[GloryGlory]

Paul McGinn got a two game ban on top of his suspension for calling Beaton ‘inept’ and ‘losing control’.

Hearts as an organisation are going further than that, calling his impartiality in hearts games into question, and doubling down on it today. What punishment are we going to see, if any?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59987599.amp

15 point deduction, effective immediately! :greengrin

[cubehindthegoal]

Some of the narrative around this is beyond bizarre. I watched the game, and the second half / most of extra time is some of the most boring football I’ve ever seen.

Aberdeen were rotten.

Hearts were also poor, even with 11 players.

Both sending offs were correct, and even if not stonewall, they were far from being scandalous. I’ve multiple less deserving red cards given on Sportscene this season alone. Manneh’s two yellows against St Mirren from a Hibs perspective were considerably softer than Deveins.

But worst of all this the ‘brave battle against all odds’ nonsense. They somehow managed to play with their back to the wall against the most toothless Aberdeen performance you’ll see in a long time. The same Aberdeen side who chucked a 2 goal advantage against a 10 man second string rangers side the week before.

The word gaslighting is overused but it couldn’t be more appropriate. Hearts weren’t good enough and were the creators of their own failure. They didn’t even last 2 minutes with 9 players before conceding.

If it helps keeps Critchley in a job then let them believe whatever delusions they want.

👍

[ancient hibee]

Interestingly the Fan’s Voice by the Hearts supporter on the BBC site is much more measured -includes
first red card always a red,
Devlin should have been subbed after first yellow instead of another midfielder when Spittal came on,
they have spent 33 weeks in the bottom six,
failure to beat any of the big teams,
Critchley- Can is just being kicked down the road.

[cubehindthegoal]

15 point deduction, effective immediately! :greengrin

Paul McGinn himself would have every right to question the comparison, and expect a similarly strong response from them … 6 points ie two games would be fair … not that the SFA would react to the question honestly, nor do they seem very quick off the mark to do anything here .. unlike they have done with us in the past … on to it like lightning, was like they enjoyed it doncha know.

[Bostonhibby]

Stolen from @scotlandscoeff1 on Twitter

https://x.com/scotlandscoeff1/status/1914660469509345479?s=61&t=WQcv92feu62WUfbidLejfg

‘ I love a Scottish football head loss and accompanying club statement as much as the next person. Very entertaining. However, my two cents on Hearts' statement yesterday - specifically the fact they referenced the KMI panel. Also my view on the (incomplete) John Beaton stats being shared which are resulting in headlines such as the below: "John Beaton is a problem". These incomplete stats of a referee's 'record' taken in isolation don't give the full picture.

1.) KMI panel is a lot of *****. Dundee United pulled out of it. It's a panel of 5 people & 3 of them are coaches, players or media analysts giving their opinion - they are not experts in the laws of the game. It is NOT the SFA agreeing there was an error made, and often the SFA contradicts the KMI panel the very next week.

2.) Hearts mentioned they have been wronged the 2nd most by VAR as per the KMI panel (4 errors). For one of these 'errors', the head of refereeing at the SFA (Willie Collum) subsequently came out and said it wasn't an error. Removing that 'error' would mean Rangers, Motherwell, Kilmarnock and St. Mirren have all had more 'errors' against them than Hearts (3) this season. St. Mirren have had 6 'errors' against them, per the KMI panel.

3.) Before this season John Beaton hadn't sent a Hearts player off since 2018.

4.) At the start of this season UEFA had a list of 60 first Category refs, which included only two from Scotland (John Beaton and Nick Walsh). This means he is regarded as one of the better refs and will therefore generally manage the 'bigger' games in Scotland. The teams he refereed Hearts against most were Celtic, Rangers and Aberdeen; where a higher loss rate is expected than against the rest of the league.

5.) Hearts are 7th this season with a win rate of 33%. While Beaton has been a top flight ref, Hearts have been relegated twice, and they went down with win rates of 26% (2013/14) & 13% (2019/20). In 2013/14 Beaton refereed a Hearts 2-0 loss in Inverness, a 4-1 loss in Motherwell and a 4-0 loss at home to Killie. The great John Robertson himself could have been the ref 38 times that season and Hearts still would have gone down.

These incomplete stats of a referee's 'record' taken in isolation don't give the full picture....’So, allisbarry then?

Hopefully the EEN's jambo "journalist" will be fully up to speed with this helpful info and will publish it in a follow up story.[emoji23]

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[Aldo]

So, allisbarry then?

Hopefully the EEN's jambo "journalist" will be fully up to speed with this helpful info and will publish it in a follow up story.[emoji23]

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It involves and provides FACTUAL information so I would suggest that it doesn’t meet the line fed to him by Tiny Park!

[Kato]

Exactly and also, on this occasion, you can see he sees the aberdeen player, yet still decides (which aligns absolutely with this players usual split decisions, as any normal honest fan can see) to follow through with the kick.According to some pundits the aberdeen player "came from nowhere".

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[Hibspur]

Paul McGinn got a two game ban on top of his suspension for calling Beaton ‘inept’ and ‘losing control’.

Hearts as an organisation are going further than that, calling his impartiality in hearts games into question, and doubling down on it today. What punishment are we going to see, if any?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59987599.amp

What have they said today?

[HarpOnHibee]

They're https://i.ibb.co/rfkcdc9g/poop.png and they know they're https://i.ibb.co/rfkcdc9g/poop.png.

Just looking to gain favourable decisions for their rescue mission against the other bottom six fodder.

[Silversand]

According to some pundits the aberdeen player "came from nowhere".

Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkInvisible footballers are just asking to be kicked for their sheer tomfoolery.

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[matty_f]

Man City player booked for being a second late and kicking a Villa player tonight. Don't think he meant to just kick the Villa player. Still got the booking.

Makes you think.

[LewysGot2]

Full deflection mode in operation but if I were them I’d be more concerned with the consequences of losing to Dundee at the weekend :wink:

If that happens then they are very much in the mix for 11th

[Kato]

Man City player booked for being a second late and kicking a Villa player tonight. Don't think he meant to just kick the Villa player. Still got the booking.

Makes you think.Should have taken more care, would have won the ball and avoided the foul/booking. Players taking care not to boot an opponent tend to avoid bookings.

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[007]

Man City player booked for being a second late and kicking a Villa player tonight. Don't think he meant to just kick the Villa player. Still got the booking.

Makes you think.

Yeah but was he looking at the ball or the player? Apparently that is a factor.

[poolman]

Ah but look how quickly he got it out, faster than any ref in history. :greengrin

That is a beauty 🤣

[poolman]

According to some pundits the aberdeen player "came from nowhere".

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Enterprise

[bingo70]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ryan-stevenson-blasts-embarrassing-hearts-35099352

Of all the people to hit the nail on the head, I wasn’t expecting Ryan Stevenson to be one of them.

In fairness to him, there is also a fair sprinkling of how massive a club Hearts are in amongst the criticism so that should be enough to keep some of them onside.

[Aldo]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ryan-stevenson-blasts-embarrassing-hearts-35099352

Of all the people to hit the nail on the head, I wasn’t expecting Ryan Stevenson to be one of them.

In fairness to him, there is also a fair sprinkling of how massive a club Hearts are in amongst the criticism so that should be enough to keep some of them onside.

He does nail it and says it how pretty much all of us see it.

I’m not sure they will but I would like to see Collum come out and say after review of the incidents at the weekends game Beaton got all the major decisions correct.

[matty_f]

He does nail it and says it how pretty much all of us see it.

I’m not sure they will but I would like to see Collum come out and say after review of the incidents at the weekends game Beaton got all the major decisions correct.
Collum shouldn't even dignify the second yellow with a response. Shouldn't feature in the VAR review as it's a second yellow and not a straight red, so b they should treat it with the contempt it deserves.

[Since452]

That Andrew McKinlay is probably the most Hearts looking person I've ever seen.

[Aldo]

Collum shouldn't even dignify the second yellow with a response. Shouldn't feature in the VAR review as it's a second yellow and not a straight red, so b they should treat it with the contempt it deserves.


Of course he shouldn’t but I would like him to put them back in their box. Blaming officials for their failings throughout the season is, as we all know, a deflection tactic which our Gorgie chums are lapping up.

One has even suggested that ex hearts players (Stevenson name mentioned) who have played when Beaton officiated, give their opinion on him.

I’m sure they will be happy this morning when they read the article written by Stevenson. [emoji1787]

[bingo70]

That Andrew McKinlay is probably the most Hearts looking person I've ever seen.

Brian McLaughlin is right up there too.

Splitting hairs here though.

[Gloucester Hibs]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ryan-stevenson-blasts-embarrassing-hearts-35099352

Of all the people to hit the nail on the head, I wasn’t expecting Ryan Stevenson to be one of them.

In fairness to him, there is also a fair sprinkling of how massive a club Hearts are in amongst the criticism so that should be enough to keep some of them onside.

The jowls on Mckinlay in that photae! :hahaha:

Can actually picture them vibrating with exasperation at the Devlin sending off!

[Dashing Bob S]

Exactly- first rate gaslighting whipping the support into anger whilst studiously avoiding their own shortcomings and the bizarre subs by the manager in conceding most possession back to Aberdeen who, btw, were absolute pish on the day.

They could have still sneaked it on the break with 10 men and pace up front, instead the usual jambottle 😄.

Long may those deluded tactics against themselves continue. It means two things: 1) they are more likely to keep Critchley. 2) a further intensification of the ongoing Jambo civil war. (Has there ever been a support who revelled so much in fight amongst themselves? I share their pleasure in this.)

So my line is that Hearts were robbed by 'Cheatin Beaton' who indeed does have an agenda against them. I think it only correct that the semi should be replayed, possibly in the close season, after the final. Should Hearts triumph on this occasion, Celtic can be pulled of the beach in Ibiza, to even up the odds.

[Hibs Go Bragh]

“the players had earned the opportunity to take the match to penalty kicks”


That's absolutely correct. They did indeed have the opportunity to take the game to a shoot-out, which sadly they then blew with 2 minutes remaining. What they hadn't done was earned the right to actually participate in a shoot-out. Shame.

Has nobody told them that you're still allowed to try and win a game of football in regular time even if you've had a man sent off?

I'm surprised they haven't demanded that the ref should have sent them straight to penalties at half time!

[Bostonhibby]

That Andrew McKinlay is probably the most Hearts looking person I've ever seen.The Peter Griffin of Scottish football, Jim Jeffries used to be a good one as well.

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[JeMeSouviens]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ryan-stevenson-blasts-embarrassing-hearts-35099352

Of all the people to hit the nail on the head, I wasn’t expecting Ryan Stevenson to be one of them.

In fairness to him, there is also a fair sprinkling of how massive a club Hearts are in amongst the criticism so that should be enough to keep some of them onside.

Stunningly sensible. Thankfully he stops short of ditching the Critch. Phew. :wink:

[grunt]

Apologies for linking to the EEN, but here's Michael Stewart's take on The Statement and The Hearts.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com//sport/football/hearts/michael-stewart-fiery-tirade-hearts-board-neil-critchley-scottish-cup-5094224

[bingo70]

Apologies for linking to the EEN, but here's Michael Stewart's take on The Statement and The Hearts.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com//sport/football/hearts/michael-stewart-fiery-tirade-hearts-board-neil-critchley-scottish-cup-5094224

Lost interest in that when they were sharing it as fact that Beaton had made a big error in sending off Devlin.

He’s entitled to his opinion but it’s not a fact that Beaton was wrong to show Devlin the second yellow. I can see why it’s one that’s been up for debate, nobody can state for absolute certainty that Beaton was wrong though, it’s a judgement call he’s made, it’s not like it’s a dive he’s been conned by.

[JimBHibees]

Lost interest in that when they were sharing it as fact that Beaton had made a big error in sending off Devlin.

He’s entitled to his opinion but it’s not a fact that Beaton was wrong to show Devlin the second yellow. I can see why it’s one that’s been up for debate, nobody can state for absolute certainty that Beaton was wrong though, it’s a judgement call he’s made, it’s not like it’s a dive he’s been conned by.

Totally agree a completely subjective decision which can go either way however he has definitely caught the guy and not a huge surprise a yellow is given particularly around the edge of the box. You see these sort of yellows given quite frequently in games. Dry yer eyes.

[JeMeSouviens]

Totally agree a completely subjective decision which can go either way however he has definitely caught the guy and not a huge surprise a yellow is given particularly around the edge of the box. You see these sort of yellows given quite frequently in games. Dry yer eyes.

:agree:

Stewart comes out with "never a red card", "never a booking" comments all the time based on what players regularly got away with 20 years ago when he played.

[Jones28]

Apologies for linking to the EEN, but here's Michael Stewart's take on The Statement and The Hearts.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com//sport/football/hearts/michael-stewart-fiery-tirade-hearts-board-neil-critchley-scottish-cup-5094224

Had Devlin not committed 3 or 4 fouls in the game after his first yellow? So he commits this foul and it's blatantly a second yellow card for persistent fouling? Whether it leads to a red or not is irrelevant, it's a yellow card and if that leads to a red then tough titties.

[jeffers]

Lost interest in that when they were sharing it as fact that Beaton had made a big error in sending off Devlin.

He’s entitled to his opinion but it’s not a fact that Beaton was wrong to show Devlin the second yellow. I can see why it’s one that’s been up for debate, nobody can state for absolute certainty that Beaton was wrong though, it’s a judgement call he’s made, it’s not like it’s a dive he’s been conned by.

Exactly this. You can look at it and say did the challenge ultimately deserve the player to be sent off, similar to Manneh’s second yellow on his debut. There are arguments that in both situations the referee could have chosen to just award a foul (which they absolutely were) and speak to the player. You’d be forgiven for thinking it was a glaring error going by Hearts reaction, it wasn’t though.

[Jones28]

Exactly this. You can look at it and say did the challenge ultimately deserve the player to be sent off, similar to Manneh’s second yellow on his debut. There are arguments that in both situations the referee could have chosen to just award a foul (which they absolutely were) and speak to the player. You’d be forgiven for thinking it was a glaring error going by Hearts reaction, it wasn’t though.

It was waaaay worse than Mannehs IMO, considering he'd been on the pitch for the full game and had committed numerous fouls throughout the game IIRC.