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Colr
19-04-2025, 05:47 PM
So, if Celtic beat Aberdeen in the cup. Do Aberdeen get a European place and are, therefore, out of the hunt for the Euro spot that comes with league placings?

ancient hibee
19-04-2025, 05:50 PM
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So, if Celtic beat Aberdeen in the cup. Do Aberdeen get a European place and are, therefore, out of the hunt for the Euro spot that comes with league placings?
No.

BoomtownHibees
19-04-2025, 05:50 PM
No, they would get Europe based on their league placing. Cup runners-up get nothing

Pagan Hibernia
19-04-2025, 05:55 PM
Is this the last season where 3rd place gets guaranteed group stage?

mcohibs
19-04-2025, 06:05 PM
Is this the last season where 3rd place gets guaranteed group stage?

I think so

Real Emerald
19-04-2025, 06:09 PM
Is this the last season where 3rd place gets guaranteed group stage?

3rd place doesn’t get guaranteed group places, it’s the winner of the Scottish Cup. 3rd only gets it if one of the two teams in 1st or 2nd win the cup. 👍

But it is the last season that will happen.

He's here!
19-04-2025, 06:27 PM
Celtic will thump that Aberdeen team in the final.

Hibs Go Bragh
19-04-2025, 06:44 PM
Is this the last season where 3rd place gets guaranteed group stage?

This worries me about not finishing 3rd this year but at least we are absolutely guaranteed to finish 3rd next season 😂

Paul1642
19-04-2025, 06:51 PM
If we start next season playing the way we are then conference league group stages are only the fallback. There’s nothing stopping us winning the playoff and gaining Europa League groups.

In 2023 Aberdeen lost 5-3 on aggregate to BK Haecken. Aberdeen were crap that season.

In 2024 Hearts lost 2-0 on aggregate to Victoria Plzen. Hearts were crap this season.

If we are at our best then there’s nothing stopping us winning a tie of against that calibre of team.

One step at a time though, beat Aberdeen at the weekend, or even draw, and 3rd is well and truly ours to loose.

SHODAN
19-04-2025, 07:31 PM
If Celtic win tomorrow then 5th gets a European place too.

Pagan Hibernia
19-04-2025, 07:35 PM
If Celtic win tomorrow then 5th gets a European place too.

What a shame hearts missed the cut

04Sauzee
19-04-2025, 07:59 PM
If Celtic win tomorrow then 5th gets a European place too.

When would the season start for 5th place and how many qualifiers would that be?

Paul1642
19-04-2025, 08:09 PM
When would the season start for 5th place and how many qualifiers would that be?

I think I would be the same as us last year, 3 round to get through with the first being pretty early.

SonOfDavidFrancey
19-04-2025, 08:32 PM
If we start next season playing the way we are then conference league group stages are only the fallback. There’s nothing stopping us winning the playoff and gaining Europa League groups.

In 2023 Aberdeen lost 5-3 on aggregate to BK Haecken. Aberdeen were crap that season.

In 2024 Hearts lost 2-0 on aggregate to Victoria Plzen. Hearts were crap this season.

If we are at our best then there’s nothing stopping us winning a tie of against that calibre of team.

One step at a time though, beat Aberdeen at the weekend, or even draw, and 3rd is well and truly ours to loose.

I think the danger is that we could easily slip into that sequence if the issue is that apart from the OF Scottish club squads can’t maintain a two game a week schedule.

Moulin Yarns
19-04-2025, 08:32 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cn8v1yv81l8o


Decent explanation there.

SHODAN
19-04-2025, 08:40 PM
When would the season start for 5th place and how many qualifiers would that be?

June and FIVE BILLION OH MY GOD is my educated guess.

Prof. Shaggy
20-04-2025, 10:59 AM
If Celtic win tomorrow then 5th gets a European place too.

Unless Aberdeen win the cup and finish sixth.

bingo70
20-04-2025, 11:08 AM
Unless Aberdeen win the cup and finish sixth.

Basically amounts to the same thing though, if Celtic win today, we are pretty much guaranteed European football I think?

St Mirren would need to win their 5 remaining games which isn’t happening and we would need to lose all 5, again unlikely, although I don’t like to tempt fate 😃

hibsbollah
20-04-2025, 12:31 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cn8v1yv81l8o


Decent explanation there.

Yea it is.

And what we need to remember (assuming Celtic win the semi) is 3rd and 4th are both decent outcomes. 5th really isnt, because it doesn’t give you guaranteed group stage, where the real money is. History tells us the Scottish team that finishes 5th will probably get emptied before the group stage.

So we can’t afford to slip up to the point that BOTH Aberdeen and Utd overtake us.

DIXIHIBS
20-04-2025, 12:42 PM
Yea it is.

And what we need to remember (assuming Celtic win the semi) is 3rd and 4th are both decent outcomes. 5th really isnt, because it doesn’t give you guaranteed group stage, where the real money is. History tells us the Scottish team that finishes 5th will probably get emptied before the group stage.

So we can’t afford to slip up to the point that BOTH Aberdeen and Utd overtake us.

Probably already been covered but surely 4th doesn't guarantee group stage?

overdrive
20-04-2025, 12:55 PM
Probably already been covered but surely 4th doesn't guarantee group stage?

It doesn’t under any circumstances. There’s only one group stage guarantee (other than Celtic with the UCL). That is the cup winner that gets that. If Celtic win the cup, that goes to the third place. Without the Celtic cup winner, third gets Europa League second qualifying round. If Celtic win the cup, 4th gets the Europa second qualifying round that third would normally get.

davhibby
20-04-2025, 01:04 PM
It doesn’t under any circumstances. There’s only one group stage guarantee (other than Celtic with the UCL). That is the cup winner that gets that. If Celtic win the cup, that goes to the third place. Without the Celtic cup winner, third gets Europa League second qualifying round. If Celtic win the cup, 4th gets the Europa second qualifying round that third would normally get.

4th still gives you a decent chance though. 2 wins from 3 ties and if you can win the first tie you’d probably be seeded for the Conference League playoff if you lost the 3rd round

Lago
20-04-2025, 01:06 PM
If we start next season playing the way we are then conference league group stages are only the fallback. There’s nothing stopping us winning the playoff and gaining Europa League groups.

In 2023 Aberdeen lost 5-3 on aggregate to BK Haecken. Aberdeen were crap that season.

In 2024 Hearts lost 2-0 on aggregate to Victoria Plzen. Hearts were crap this season.

If we are at our best then there’s nothing stopping us winning a tie of against that calibre of team.

One step at a time though, beat Aberdeen at the weekend, or even draw, and 3rd is well and truly ours to loose.
All well and good, but if we start the next season like we did this one, Hibs will be another Scottish clun emptied out of Europe early doors.

bringbackbenny
20-04-2025, 01:08 PM
This site explains all the permutations. Not easy to follow but you eventually get there!

https://kassiesa.net/uefa/AccessList2025.html

Jack Hackett
20-04-2025, 01:13 PM
What a shame hearts missed the cut
5th would still have been a stretch even if they'd scraped in. So near, and yet so far 😁

RIP
20-04-2025, 01:18 PM
One step at a time though, beat Aberdeen at the weekend, or even draw, and 3rd is well and truly ours to loose.

Paul I liked the rest of your post but in my view we need to win all of Buddies and Sheep away and Arabs at home to go into our last game against the Cream Buns in an unassailable position.

EdinMike
20-04-2025, 01:37 PM
Paul I liked the rest of your post but in my view we need to win all of Buddies and Sheep away and Arabs at home to go into our last game against the Cream Buns in an unassailable position.

I don’t know why everyone is getting so hung up on third…

We win every game and The Rangers lose every game and we’re off to the champions league 🤩

HoboHarry
21-04-2025, 12:21 AM
I don’t know why everyone is getting so hung up on third…

We win every game and The Rangers lose every game and we’re off to the champions league 🤩

Pit the bong doon, that's long enough.....:greengrin

bingo70
21-04-2025, 01:25 PM
https://x.com/alanftemple/status/1914258200297197982?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

Good article in the Dundee Courier about permutations that should explain it all pretty clearly.

HoboHarry
21-04-2025, 01:54 PM
All if's, but's and maybe's I know but if we had one all of our games in October last year instead of losing 2 and drawing two we'd only be 3 points behind Sevco and they would be sh*****g in their pantaloons. Imagine their terror at the thought of no Champions League :greengrin

Billy Whizz
21-04-2025, 02:10 PM
https://x.com/alanftemple/status/1914258200297197982?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

Good article in the Dundee Courier about permutations that should explain it all pretty clearly.

Thanks for sharing
Just need to get 3rd and wait for Cup Final Day for a Celtic win

JeMeSouviens
21-04-2025, 03:08 PM
All if's, but's and maybe's I know but if we had one all of our games in October last year instead of losing 2 and drawing two we'd only be 3 points behind Sevco and they would be sh*****g in their pantaloons. Imagine their terror at the thought of no Champions League :greengrin

We don't have to imagine that, we can just watch them lose in the qualifiers. :greengrin

It is also just possible for the 2nd place team in Scotland to miss out on group stage football if they lose their first CL qualifier. They'd drop to the 3rd qualifying round of the Europa League and if the lost that, the Conference League play off round. Lose that and yer oot.

The Huns should have a good enough seeding to get through at least one of those rounds but it would be hilarious!

BS44
21-04-2025, 04:36 PM
All the dates for Europa and Conference, if everything goes the way we all hope in the league

https://x.com/scottmillar1/status/1914333989784944876?s=48

Hibspur
21-04-2025, 04:43 PM
Truly underlines the scale of the turnaround that as recently as November we'd have been happy to avoid a relegation battle and now we're going to feel a bit deflated if we don't finish third.

We're clearly good enough to finish the job, so fingers crossed we can get this over the line.

Silversand
21-04-2025, 06:57 PM
All the dates for Europa and Conference, if everything goes the way we all hope in the league

https://x.com/scottmillar1/status/1914333989784944876?s=48The Europa League 1st leg playoff match, Aug 21st, is the same night as AC/DC Murrayfield

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Mcbizz1998
21-04-2025, 07:03 PM
The Europa League 1st leg playoff match, Aug 21st, is the same night as AC/DC Murrayfield

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Oh dear, I and several from our season ticket group have tickets for AC/DC. Hopefully we are away first leg.

EdinMike
21-04-2025, 07:04 PM
The Europa League 1st leg playoff match, Aug 21st, is the same night as AC/DC Murrayfield

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And it’s during the festival… If you thought the Festival was busy enough 🤪

hibsbollah
21-04-2025, 07:39 PM
Oh dear, I and several from our season ticket group have tickets for AC/DC. Hopefully we are away first leg.

Hells bells.
Im literally thunderstruck by that news

marinello59
21-04-2025, 07:40 PM
Hells bells.
Im literally thunderstruck by that news

Good grief. :greengrin

Eyrie
21-04-2025, 08:01 PM
Hells bells.
Im literally thunderstruck by that news

That's because you're a Problem Child.

hibsbollah
21-04-2025, 08:18 PM
That's because you're a Problem Child.

:agree: riff raff

DIXIHIBS
21-04-2025, 08:25 PM
:agree: riff raff

That's a touch too much...

Eyrie
21-04-2025, 09:35 PM
That's a touch too much...

At least he's not beating around the bush.

HoboHarry
21-04-2025, 10:00 PM
At least he's not beating around the bush.

Someone should be but not me though, too old for that nonsense.

hibby6270
21-04-2025, 10:49 PM
The Europa League 1st leg playoff match, Aug 21st, is the same night as AC/DC Murrayfield

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A Complete/Diary Clash.
It’s just a Rock n Roll Damnation but given the ticket price, Murrayfield it’ll have to be.

HibbyDave
22-04-2025, 09:58 AM
We can all take beach balls and wear sombreros to the final derby this season………….



Oh wait😂

He's here!
22-04-2025, 11:02 AM
The Europa League 1st leg playoff match, Aug 21st, is the same night as AC/DC MurrayfieldSent from my SM-S928B using TapatalkIf anyone's got any spare AC/DC tickets let me know. My son was well hacked off to miss out.

Crazyhorse
22-04-2025, 12:03 PM
We can all take beach balls and wear sombreros to the final derby this season………….



Oh wait😂

Big balls?

HoboHarry
22-04-2025, 12:19 PM
AC/DC? Not spending that kind of money, I can get a headache for free just listening to the wife.

Springbank
22-04-2025, 12:28 PM
The Europa League 1st leg playoff match, Aug 21st, is the same night as AC/DC Murrayfield

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AC/DC at Murrayfield

AC/Milan in the Leith San Siro

Hibernian Verse
22-04-2025, 12:49 PM
If it's a policing/stewarding issue we might get moved to the Wednesday if we're drawn at home

Eyrie
22-04-2025, 07:22 PM
AC/DC? Not spending that kind of money, I can get a headache for free just listening to the wife.

If she's nagging at you night and day and you want her gone then it sounds like you want dirty deeds done dirt cheap.

hibsbollah
22-04-2025, 07:30 PM
If it's a policing/stewarding issue we might get moved to the Wednesday if we're drawn at home

Was this a hidden track :dunno:

DaveF
22-04-2025, 07:43 PM
If anyone's got any spare AC/DC tickets let me know. My son was well hacked off to miss out.

Tell him to save his money and watch the real thing on youtube.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n0y_s_uuVZQ&pp=ygURYWNkYyBnbGFzZ293IDE5Nzg%3D

JasonC1875
25-04-2025, 01:12 PM
https://x.com/footrankings/status/1915434809830014998?s=46

Updated projected pots for Conference League

Thatdayinmay16
25-04-2025, 01:28 PM
https://x.com/footrankings/status/1915434809830014998?s=46

Updated projected pots for Conference League

Borussia Dortmund:pray:

Nicho87
25-04-2025, 01:29 PM
Cmon MALLORCA!!!!!!

Billy Bunter 07
25-04-2025, 01:38 PM
The excitement begins.

It's the final countdown.

Posh Swanny
25-04-2025, 01:44 PM
https://x.com/footrankings/status/1915434809830014998?s=46

Updated projected pots for Conference League

Just imagine...

Hibs vs Bournemouth in the final game of the group stage. They've already qualified and Hibs need a point to go through. :stirrer:

Paul1642
25-04-2025, 05:52 PM
Just imagine...

Hibs vs Bournemouth in the final game of the group stage. They've already qualified and Hibs need a point to go through. :stirrer:

Whilst I like the BKs involvement with Hibs, this hypothetical situation is exactly why multi club ownership is an issue in terms of sporting integrity.

Now take the same situation but we both need the point to qualify. Our own co-owners would be willing us to loose.

Nevi_SOL
25-04-2025, 06:28 PM
Cmon MALLORCA!!!!!!

That would be incredible. 8k Hibs fans in Magaluf 😂

Paul1642
25-04-2025, 06:52 PM
https://x.com/footrankings/status/1915434809830014998?s=46

Updated projected pots for Conference League

7-8 points done the job this season. I don’t think it’s remotely beyond our ability to get through the groups (although let’s confirm getting there first 😂 )

cubehindthegoal
25-04-2025, 07:16 PM
Celtic will thump that Aberdeen team in the final.

I’ll thump them if they don’t.

Ok, I won’t.

cubehindthegoal
25-04-2025, 07:22 PM
I don’t know why everyone is getting so hung up on third…

We win every game and The Rangers lose every game and we’re off to the champions league 🤩

Totally brilliant mate 🤣 Call me crazy, but I’ve just gone and booked hotel for the final tonight based on that. Going to get expensive closer to the date ..

cubehindthegoal
25-04-2025, 07:27 PM
The Europa League 1st leg playoff match, Aug 21st, is the same night as AC/DC Murrayfield

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If Hibs get AC/DC in the draw then, totally sorted home and away. Can use my bus pass to both.