Europe

[Colr]

So, if Celtic beat Aberdeen in the cup. Do Aberdeen get a European place and are, therefore, out of the hunt for the Euro spot that comes with league placings?

[ancient hibee]

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So, if Celtic beat Aberdeen in the cup. Do Aberdeen get a European place and are, therefore, out of the hunt for the Euro spot that comes with league placings?
No.

[BoomtownHibees]

No, they would get Europe based on their league placing. Cup runners-up get nothing

[Pagan Hibernia]

Is this the last season where 3rd place gets guaranteed group stage?

[mcohibs]

Is this the last season where 3rd place gets guaranteed group stage?

I think so

[Real Emerald]

Is this the last season where 3rd place gets guaranteed group stage?

3rd place doesn’t get guaranteed group places, it’s the winner of the Scottish Cup. 3rd only gets it if one of the two teams in 1st or 2nd win the cup. 👍

But it is the last season that will happen.

[He's here!]

Celtic will thump that Aberdeen team in the final.

[Hibs Go Bragh]

Is this the last season where 3rd place gets guaranteed group stage?

This worries me about not finishing 3rd this year but at least we are absolutely guaranteed to finish 3rd next season 😂

[Paul1642]

If we start next season playing the way we are then conference league group stages are only the fallback. There’s nothing stopping us winning the playoff and gaining Europa League groups.

In 2023 Aberdeen lost 5-3 on aggregate to BK Haecken. Aberdeen were crap that season.

In 2024 Hearts lost 2-0 on aggregate to Victoria Plzen. Hearts were crap this season.

If we are at our best then there’s nothing stopping us winning a tie of against that calibre of team.

One step at a time though, beat Aberdeen at the weekend, or even draw, and 3rd is well and truly ours to loose.

[SHODAN]

If Celtic win tomorrow then 5th gets a European place too.

[Pagan Hibernia]

If Celtic win tomorrow then 5th gets a European place too.

What a shame hearts missed the cut

[04Sauzee]

If Celtic win tomorrow then 5th gets a European place too.

When would the season start for 5th place and how many qualifiers would that be?

[Paul1642]

When would the season start for 5th place and how many qualifiers would that be?

I think I would be the same as us last year, 3 round to get through with the first being pretty early.

[SonOfDavidFrancey]

If we start next season playing the way we are then conference league group stages are only the fallback. There’s nothing stopping us winning the playoff and gaining Europa League groups.

In 2023 Aberdeen lost 5-3 on aggregate to BK Haecken. Aberdeen were crap that season.

In 2024 Hearts lost 2-0 on aggregate to Victoria Plzen. Hearts were crap this season.

If we are at our best then there’s nothing stopping us winning a tie of against that calibre of team.

One step at a time though, beat Aberdeen at the weekend, or even draw, and 3rd is well and truly ours to loose.

I think the danger is that we could easily slip into that sequence if the issue is that apart from the OF Scottish club squads can’t maintain a two game a week schedule.

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cn8v1yv81l8o


Decent explanation there.

[SHODAN]

When would the season start for 5th place and how many qualifiers would that be?

June and FIVE BILLION OH MY GOD is my educated guess.

[Prof. Shaggy]

If Celtic win tomorrow then 5th gets a European place too.

Unless Aberdeen win the cup and finish sixth.

[bingo70]

Unless Aberdeen win the cup and finish sixth.

Basically amounts to the same thing though, if Celtic win today, we are pretty much guaranteed European football I think?

St Mirren would need to win their 5 remaining games which isn’t happening and we would need to lose all 5, again unlikely, although I don’t like to tempt fate 😃

[hibsbollah]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cn8v1yv81l8o


Decent explanation there.

Yea it is.

And what we need to remember (assuming Celtic win the semi) is 3rd and 4th are both decent outcomes. 5th really isnt, because it doesn’t give you guaranteed group stage, where the real money is. History tells us the Scottish team that finishes 5th will probably get emptied before the group stage.

So we can’t afford to slip up to the point that BOTH Aberdeen and Utd overtake us.

[DIXIHIBS]

Yea it is.

And what we need to remember (assuming Celtic win the semi) is 3rd and 4th are both decent outcomes. 5th really isnt, because it doesn’t give you guaranteed group stage, where the real money is. History tells us the Scottish team that finishes 5th will probably get emptied before the group stage.

So we can’t afford to slip up to the point that BOTH Aberdeen and Utd overtake us.

Probably already been covered but surely 4th doesn't guarantee group stage?

[overdrive]

Probably already been covered but surely 4th doesn't guarantee group stage?

It doesn’t under any circumstances. There’s only one group stage guarantee (other than Celtic with the UCL). That is the cup winner that gets that. If Celtic win the cup, that goes to the third place. Without the Celtic cup winner, third gets Europa League second qualifying round. If Celtic win the cup, 4th gets the Europa second qualifying round that third would normally get.

[davhibby]

It doesn’t under any circumstances. There’s only one group stage guarantee (other than Celtic with the UCL). That is the cup winner that gets that. If Celtic win the cup, that goes to the third place. Without the Celtic cup winner, third gets Europa League second qualifying round. If Celtic win the cup, 4th gets the Europa second qualifying round that third would normally get.

4th still gives you a decent chance though. 2 wins from 3 ties and if you can win the first tie you’d probably be seeded for the Conference League playoff if you lost the 3rd round

[Lago]

If we start next season playing the way we are then conference league group stages are only the fallback. There’s nothing stopping us winning the playoff and gaining Europa League groups.

In 2023 Aberdeen lost 5-3 on aggregate to BK Haecken. Aberdeen were crap that season.

In 2024 Hearts lost 2-0 on aggregate to Victoria Plzen. Hearts were crap this season.

If we are at our best then there’s nothing stopping us winning a tie of against that calibre of team.

One step at a time though, beat Aberdeen at the weekend, or even draw, and 3rd is well and truly ours to loose.
All well and good, but if we start the next season like we did this one, Hibs will be another Scottish clun emptied out of Europe early doors.

[bringbackbenny]

This site explains all the permutations. Not easy to follow but you eventually get there!

https://kassiesa.net/uefa/AccessList2025.html

[Jack Hackett]

What a shame hearts missed the cut
5th would still have been a stretch even if they'd scraped in. So near, and yet so far 😁

[RIP]

One step at a time though, beat Aberdeen at the weekend, or even draw, and 3rd is well and truly ours to loose.

Paul I liked the rest of your post but in my view we need to win all of Buddies and Sheep away and Arabs at home to go into our last game against the Cream Buns in an unassailable position.

[EdinMike]

Paul I liked the rest of your post but in my view we need to win all of Buddies and Sheep away and Arabs at home to go into our last game against the Cream Buns in an unassailable position.

I don’t know why everyone is getting so hung up on third…

We win every game and The Rangers lose every game and we’re off to the champions league 🤩

[HoboHarry]

I don’t know why everyone is getting so hung up on third…

We win every game and The Rangers lose every game and we’re off to the champions league 🤩

Pit the bong doon, that's long enough.....:greengrin

[bingo70]

https://x.com/alanftemple/status/1914258200297197982?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

Good article in the Dundee Courier about permutations that should explain it all pretty clearly.

[HoboHarry]

All if's, but's and maybe's I know but if we had one all of our games in October last year instead of losing 2 and drawing two we'd only be 3 points behind Sevco and they would be sh*****g in their pantaloons. Imagine their terror at the thought of no Champions League :greengrin

[Billy Whizz]

https://x.com/alanftemple/status/1914258200297197982?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

Good article in the Dundee Courier about permutations that should explain it all pretty clearly.

Thanks for sharing
Just need to get 3rd and wait for Cup Final Day for a Celtic win

[JeMeSouviens]

All if's, but's and maybe's I know but if we had one all of our games in October last year instead of losing 2 and drawing two we'd only be 3 points behind Sevco and they would be sh*****g in their pantaloons. Imagine their terror at the thought of no Champions League :greengrin

We don't have to imagine that, we can just watch them lose in the qualifiers. :greengrin

It is also just possible for the 2nd place team in Scotland to miss out on group stage football if they lose their first CL qualifier. They'd drop to the 3rd qualifying round of the Europa League and if the lost that, the Conference League play off round. Lose that and yer oot.

The Huns should have a good enough seeding to get through at least one of those rounds but it would be hilarious!

[BS44]

All the dates for Europa and Conference, if everything goes the way we all hope in the league

https://x.com/scottmillar1/status/1914333989784944876?s=48

[Hibspur]

Truly underlines the scale of the turnaround that as recently as November we'd have been happy to avoid a relegation battle and now we're going to feel a bit deflated if we don't finish third.

We're clearly good enough to finish the job, so fingers crossed we can get this over the line.

[Silversand]

All the dates for Europa and Conference, if everything goes the way we all hope in the league

https://x.com/scottmillar1/status/1914333989784944876?s=48The Europa League 1st leg playoff match, Aug 21st, is the same night as AC/DC Murrayfield

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[Mcbizz1998]

The Europa League 1st leg playoff match, Aug 21st, is the same night as AC/DC Murrayfield

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Oh dear, I and several from our season ticket group have tickets for AC/DC. Hopefully we are away first leg.

[EdinMike]

The Europa League 1st leg playoff match, Aug 21st, is the same night as AC/DC Murrayfield

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And it’s during the festival… If you thought the Festival was busy enough 🤪

[hibsbollah]

Oh dear, I and several from our season ticket group have tickets for AC/DC. Hopefully we are away first leg.

Hells bells.
Im literally thunderstruck by that news

[marinello59]

Hells bells.
Im literally thunderstruck by that news

Good grief. :greengrin

[Eyrie]

Hells bells.
Im literally thunderstruck by that news

That's because you're a Problem Child.

[hibsbollah]

That's because you're a Problem Child.

:agree: riff raff

[DIXIHIBS]

:agree: riff raff

That's a touch too much...

[Eyrie]

That's a touch too much...

At least he's not beating around the bush.

[HoboHarry]

At least he's not beating around the bush.

Someone should be but not me though, too old for that nonsense.

[hibby6270]

The Europa League 1st leg playoff match, Aug 21st, is the same night as AC/DC Murrayfield

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A Complete/Diary Clash.
It’s just a Rock n Roll Damnation but given the ticket price, Murrayfield it’ll have to be.

[HibbyDave]

We can all take beach balls and wear sombreros to the final derby this season………….



Oh wait😂

[He's here!]

The Europa League 1st leg playoff match, Aug 21st, is the same night as AC/DC MurrayfieldSent from my SM-S928B using TapatalkIf anyone's got any spare AC/DC tickets let me know. My son was well hacked off to miss out.

[Crazyhorse]

We can all take beach balls and wear sombreros to the final derby this season………….



Oh wait😂

Big balls?

[HoboHarry]

AC/DC? Not spending that kind of money, I can get a headache for free just listening to the wife.

[Springbank]

The Europa League 1st leg playoff match, Aug 21st, is the same night as AC/DC Murrayfield

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AC/DC at Murrayfield

AC/Milan in the Leith San Siro

[Hibernian Verse]

If it's a policing/stewarding issue we might get moved to the Wednesday if we're drawn at home

[Eyrie]

AC/DC? Not spending that kind of money, I can get a headache for free just listening to the wife.

If she's nagging at you night and day and you want her gone then it sounds like you want dirty deeds done dirt cheap.

[hibsbollah]

If it's a policing/stewarding issue we might get moved to the Wednesday if we're drawn at home

Was this a hidden track :dunno:

[DaveF]

If anyone's got any spare AC/DC tickets let me know. My son was well hacked off to miss out.

Tell him to save his money and watch the real thing on youtube.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n0y_s_uuVZQ&pp=ygURYWNkYyBnbGFzZ293IDE5Nzg%3D

[JasonC1875]

https://x.com/footrankings/status/1915434809830014998?s=46

Updated projected pots for Conference League

[Thatdayinmay16]

https://x.com/footrankings/status/1915434809830014998?s=46

Updated projected pots for Conference League

Borussia Dortmund:pray:

[Nicho87]

Cmon MALLORCA!!!!!!

[Billy Bunter 07]

The excitement begins.

It's the final countdown.

[Posh Swanny]

https://x.com/footrankings/status/1915434809830014998?s=46

Updated projected pots for Conference League

Just imagine...

Hibs vs Bournemouth in the final game of the group stage. They've already qualified and Hibs need a point to go through. :stirrer:

[Paul1642]

Just imagine...

Hibs vs Bournemouth in the final game of the group stage. They've already qualified and Hibs need a point to go through. :stirrer:

Whilst I like the BKs involvement with Hibs, this hypothetical situation is exactly why multi club ownership is an issue in terms of sporting integrity.

Now take the same situation but we both need the point to qualify. Our own co-owners would be willing us to loose.

[Nevi_SOL]

Cmon MALLORCA!!!!!!

That would be incredible. 8k Hibs fans in Magaluf 😂

[Paul1642]

https://x.com/footrankings/status/1915434809830014998?s=46

Updated projected pots for Conference League

7-8 points done the job this season. I don’t think it’s remotely beyond our ability to get through the groups (although let’s confirm getting there first 😂 )

[cubehindthegoal]

Celtic will thump that Aberdeen team in the final.

I’ll thump them if they don’t.

Ok, I won’t.

[cubehindthegoal]

I don’t know why everyone is getting so hung up on third…

We win every game and The Rangers lose every game and we’re off to the champions league 🤩

Totally brilliant mate 🤣 Call me crazy, but I’ve just gone and booked hotel for the final tonight based on that. Going to get expensive closer to the date ..

[cubehindthegoal]

The Europa League 1st leg playoff match, Aug 21st, is the same night as AC/DC Murrayfield

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If Hibs get AC/DC in the draw then, totally sorted home and away. Can use my bus pass to both.

[bingo70]

Heard someone say after the game today we can’t finish any lower than fourth now.

Am I right in saying that’s not correct, I know the numbers get complicated slightly by the fact teams all play each other but I think we could still technically finish 5th?

[Since90+2]

Heard someone say after the game today we can’t finish any lower than fourth now.

Am I right in saying that’s not correct, I know the numbers get complicated slightly by the fact teams all play each other but I think we could still technically finish 5th?


Not sure about technically but there's no chance United are finishing above us now. We're effectively 7 points ahead of them with 3 games to play, they're not winning all 3 games.

[Paul1642]

Heard someone say after the game today we can’t finish any lower than fourth now.

Am I right in saying that’s not correct, I know the numbers get complicated slightly by the fact teams all play each other but I think we could still technically finish 5th?

I think you’re correct that we can still finish 5th.

Hibs pick up 0 points take us to 56pts
Aberdeen beat old firm takes them to 59pts
Dundee United win all three games = 59pts

[LewysGot2]

Not sure about technically but there's no chance United are finishing above us now. We're effectively 7 points ahead of them with 3 games to play, they're not winning all 3 games.

Yup, pretty much this. And one of the games they play the Sheep…a nice head to head where one or both will lose points. :agree:

[Hibees1973]

Can anyone send a link with the updated projection pots for Europe.

I like looking at them :hyper

[Paul1642]

Can anyone send a link with the updated projection pots for Europe.

I like looking at them :hyper

I second this. My favourite light reading these last few weeks :)

Today’s the first day it feels really close to happening for me.

[bingo70]

Can anyone send a link with the updated projection pots for Europe.

I like looking at them :hyper

https://x.com/footrankings/status/1918620847306055924?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

That’s the most recent one from earlier on today.

[Paul1642]

https://x.com/footrankings/status/1918620847306055924?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

That’s the most recent one from earlier on today.

We’re up to pot 5! Wonder what changed.

[bingo70]

We’re up to pot 5! Wonder what changed.

People in charge realised we are ****ing magic I presume.

[Glory Lurker]

Where are we going? Is it nice?

[Paul1642]

How does the draw work? There’s only 6 pots but you also play 6 games.

[Since452]

Where are we going? Is it nice?

Hope it's somewhere better than France

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Where are we going? Is it nice?

They've qualified for the champions league

[Hibees1973]

https://x.com/footrankings/status/1918620847306055924?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

That’s the most recent one from earlier on today.

Nice one bingo70.

Trips to Rome (Lazio), Vienna (Rapid) & Pamplona (Osasuna) would be tremendous.

After today, I'm getting a wee bit excited, but not carried away.

[GreenCastle]

Nice one bingo70.

Trips to Rome (Lazio), Vienna (Rapid) & Pamplona (Osasuna) would be tremendous.

After today, I'm getting a wee bit excited, but not carried away.

If Hibs manage to get stages in Europe - reckon tickets will be gold dust for home and away games. Important to get a Season ticket to at least get a chance to see the games.

[HibeeMackenzie]

How does the draw work? There’s only 6 pots but you also play 6 games.

You play one team from each pot including your own

[erin go bragh]

Whilst I like the BKs involvement with Hibs, this hypothetical situation is exactly why multi club ownership is an issue in terms of sporting integrity.

Now take the same situation but we both need the point to qualify. Our own co-owners would be willing us to loose.

Easy draw no 😂

[yonder1875]

Forgive my naivety but what’s the script if we finish third? Is it Europa League playoff qualifier and at the minimum group stage Conference League football?

And how would Aberdeen winning the cup affect that?

[04Sauzee]

Forgive my naivety but what’s the script if we finish third? Is it Europa League playoff qualifier and at the minimum group stage Conference League football?

And how would Aberdeen winning the cup affect that?
I'm still confused as to what happens in that scenario or what happens If we finish outside the top 3? I'm sure it's been explained to me several times 😅

[CallumLaidlaw]

Forgive my naivety but what’s the script if we finish third? Is it Europa League playoff qualifier and at the minimum group stage Conference League football?

And how would Aberdeen winning the cup affect that?

You are correct.

If Aberdeen win the cup we’d go into the Europa league 2nd qualifying round.
If we lose in the qualifiers you drop into the next stage of the conference qualifiers.


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[bingo70]

You are correct.

If Aberdeen win the cup we’d go into the Europa league 2nd qualifying round.
If we lose in the qualifiers you drop into the next stage of the conference qualifiers.


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So if we finish 3rd and Aberdeen win the cup, we’d still have two chances to try and get group stage football. Europa league and then down to the conference league?

If we finish third and Celtic win the cup we have one attempt to get into the Europa league but if we lose we drop down to the conference league group stages?

[JohnM1875]

So if we finish 3rd and Aberdeen win the cup, we’d still have two chances to try and get group stage football. Europa league and then down to the conference league?

If we finish third and Celtic win the cup we have one attempt to get into the Europa league but if we lose we drop down to the conference league group stages?

Spot on, aye.

If Aberdeen win the Cup we'd need to win Europa League second qualifying round, third qualifying round and then the play off round. So six games. Lose any of those and you drop down into the relevant Conference League qualification stage.

Celtic win the Cup we enter at the Europa League play-off round. So a two leg tie. Lose that and it's Conference League group stages.

[CallumLaidlaw]

So if we finish 3rd and Aberdeen win the cup, we’d still have two chances to try and get group stage football. Europa league and then down to the conference league?

If we finish third and Celtic win the cup we have one attempt to get into the Europa league but if we lose we drop down to the conference league group stages?

Yep.
In the example where Aberdeen win the cup we’d have -
2nd Q round
3rd Q round
Playoff

To get to group stages.

But say we got beat in the Europa league 3rd qualifying round, we’d go into the conference league playoff.


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