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SonOfDavidFrancey
16-04-2025, 03:28 PM
An interesting take on the much-maligned one: https://www.hibsobserver.co.uk/tactics/25093459.understanding-kuharevich-role-david-grays-hibs-team/
Victor
16-04-2025, 03:57 PM
I think you can see what he is there for. First half on Saturday he did well holding the ball and pressing. He is also a good decoy with his forward runs. I don’t have problem with him and think he has room for improvement
makaveli1875
16-04-2025, 04:03 PM
His biggest issue is the lack of goals, he's doing everything else pretty well . Was unlucky with that shot off the post , keeper was beaten he's just not getting the breaks infront of goal right now
danhibees1875
16-04-2025, 04:04 PM
Is he in the "Christian Doidge" phase where his hard work and contributions are undervalued due to the lack of actual goals?
Maybe just needs the first goal to break the streak and add actual goals to his outputs!
The Modfather
16-04-2025, 04:08 PM
I can’t see the article as it’s subscription only. However, I see Myko as similar to the role Campbell was doing. Campbell was doing a lot of stuff other than scoring or creating chances. Eventually there came a time when that wasn’t enough and he was dropped. That’s the stage Myko has passed IMO. Does a job for an hour but when the likes of Bowie & Gayle replace him we almost immediately look a lot more potent and threatening IMO.
Not the worst player, but he’s fortunate Bowie & Gayle struggle to play 90 minutes IMO.
CapitalGreen
16-04-2025, 04:21 PM
I find the comparison to the rest of the league a bit odd when most teams don’t play a high press. A more useful comparison would be to our alternative attacking options as they are more relevant to the debate on whether he should be starting.
The stats presented in the article tell us what he is doing defensively but doesn’t offer any statistical insight into how that translates into results.
The reality is we score less and concede more goals when Myko plays. We give up attacking threat for no improvement defensively. Our net goal difference when he is on the pitch compared to off is negative.
Donegal Hibby
16-04-2025, 04:49 PM
I can’t see the article as it’s subscription only. However, I see Myko as similar to the role Campbell was doing. Campbell was doing a lot of stuff other than scoring or creating chances. Eventually there came a time when that wasn’t enough and he was dropped. That’s the stage Myko has passed IMO. Does a job for an hour but when the likes of Bowie & Gayle replace him we almost immediately look a lot more potent and threatening IMO.
Not the worst player, but he’s fortunate Boyle & Gayle struggle to play 90 minutes IMO.
Does Boyle struggle to play 90 minute minutes?
ancient hibee
16-04-2025, 05:37 PM
I can’t see the article as it’s subscription only. However, I see Myko as similar to the role Campbell was doing. Campbell was doing a lot of stuff other than scoring or creating chances. Eventually there came a time when that wasn’t enough and he was dropped. That’s the stage Myko has passed IMO. Does a job for an hour but when the likes of Bowie & Gayle replace him we almost immediately look a lot more potent and threatening IMO.
Not the worst player, but he’s fortunate Bowie & Gayle struggle to play 90 minutes IMO.
Bowie and Gayle are better goal scorers but when they come on defenders are feeling the effects of 60 minutes chasing . The system with substitutions is working extremely well.
Jock O
16-04-2025, 05:59 PM
Bowie and Gayle are better goal scorers but when they come on defenders are feeling the effects of 60 minutes chasing . The system with substitutions is working extremely well.
I totally agree with that, last couple of games they have been run ragged with Myko and Boyle, Gray has said openly he will always make changes during game, and as you say it is working pretty well at the moment. Myko has really steadily improved recently in last few games, and we are winning with him as a big part of the plan
That is twice in recent games Myko has been a baw hair away from scoring, that would just be cream on top if he could get a couple before he leaves, he definitely deserves it now, the first one he rushed it but Saturdays he recovered excellently from his first touch and was so unlucky with the shot off the post, he was actually really close with a great strike earlier too. If he grabs a couple before going off next game it might make a the second half just a nice easy stroll in the park for the subs coming on :-)
B.H.F.C
16-04-2025, 06:17 PM
I think he’s done all right in the last few games. But strikers need to be scoring goals. I think Bowie will be in for him up at Aberdeen.
ancient hibee
16-04-2025, 06:26 PM
I think he’s done all right in the last few games. But strikers need to be scoring goals. I think Bowie will be in for him up at Aberdeen.
I don’t think so.Bowie isn’t fit enough to play for an hour of pressing that Gray wants.Much better for him to come on and score in the last thirty minutes.
erin go bragh
16-04-2025, 06:51 PM
For me, he has been a massive disappointment as first loan, he looked sharp and likely to score every game ( when fit)he but this time he has almost been like playing with a man short.
DarlingtonHibee
16-04-2025, 07:00 PM
I don’t think so.Bowie isn’t fit enough to play for an hour of pressing that Gray wants.Much better for him to come on and score in the last thirty minutes.
This 👍
1875Sean
16-04-2025, 07:09 PM
For me, he has been a massive disappointment as first loan, he looked sharp and likely to score every game ( when fit)he but this time he has almost been like playing with a man short.
A bit harsh, sure gray wouldn’t be picking him week after week if he was a man down
JimBHibees
16-04-2025, 08:55 PM
I think you can see what he is there for. First half on Saturday he did well holding the ball and pressing. He is also a good decoy with his forward runs. I don’t have problem with him and think he has room for improvement
Agree he is getting better week by week
GreenNWhiteArmy
16-04-2025, 09:06 PM
Wonder what his market value will be in the summer?
Missing chances but SDG keeps starting him and we keep winning...
Donegal Hibby
17-04-2025, 12:00 AM
I like Myko and thought in our last couple of games he’s played well and was unfortunate not to score in the last one. I don’t think he’s been as effective as the first time we had him and looks like a striker maybe short on confidence that’s needing a goal ..
Even though he’s not been scoring the shift he’s putting in for the team is probably important considering Bowie isn’t right fit yet and is a player we are going to need for the final push . Bowie I’d imagine will be our main striker next season but whatever happens with Myko i appreciate the effort he puts in for our team all the same …
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Forza Fred
17-04-2025, 01:40 AM
You can do all sorts of support work but if you are a striker and not scoring goals you will be replaced, just as Monty as coach found out that you can promote all the youngsters you want, but if you aren’t winning games you will be sacked.
CapitalGreen
17-04-2025, 06:46 AM
Quite a few posts saying he’s unlucky not to have scored, the fact is he is just a very poor finisher which is borne out on his finishing stats compared to his attacking teammates.
28704
He takes shots more regularly than his teammates but is the worst at hitting the target. Of our 4 fit strikers he has the worst shot conversion rate at only 9%! For added comparison Vente’s shot conversion rate was 14% and Doidge was 15%.
He’s had 10 shots across our previous 2 home games and only hit the target once. Now we are fortunate that we can get away with that sort of finishing against the 2 worst teams in the league at home. However, in our final 5 games, particularly away from home, we will need our attackers to be a lot more clinical as we are unlikely to be afforded as many chances.
danhibees1875
17-04-2025, 07:14 AM
Myko hattrick vs Aberdeen incoming.
Alfred E Newman
17-04-2025, 09:01 AM
I thought he had one of his best 60 mins on Sunday.. He helped wear down their central defenders and they just collapsed after the subs came on.
worcesterhibby
17-04-2025, 09:18 AM
I really think the regular subbing of our forwards is tactically brilliant. The pressing game we play is pretty much impossible to sustain over 90 minutes. So having two great forwards to bring on for 60 mins, full of energy and running is proving to be a nightmare for opposition defences. It gives them another dilemma too.. do they bring on fresh legs in defence to counter it? Which for most teams will mean brining on inferior players and also means they have few options for positive substitutes.
even once Bowie is fully fit, I can see SDG continuing with the same tactics.. keeps our forwards fresher too and should mean we get less injuries in that key part of the team, as players are playing less minutes ( but keeping very sharp due to the intensity of the time they do have on the pitch)
it also means that older players, with huge experience like Gayle and Hoillett flourish in the team as they aren’t being asked to put in strenuous 90 minutes shifts very often, so it gives us the opportunity to continue to sign class finishers, that might struggle over a full 90 due to age Having them mentoring the likes of Bowie and Dean Cleland must be so beneficial.
basehibby
17-04-2025, 10:42 AM
In his first loan spell, Myko was scoring roughly one goal every 180 mins - so there's no denying he's been under par this season in that respect. Other than that though, he's played well last couple of matches and, as commented elsewhere, it suits our high pressing style to be able to bring on subs for our front players. So overall, I'm glad to have him - would love to see him burst the back of the net a few times over the next 5 games though.
Fergus52
17-04-2025, 11:07 AM
Quite a few posts saying he’s unlucky not to have scored, the fact is he is just a very poor finisher which is borne out on his finishing stats compared to his attacking teammates.
28704
He takes shots more regularly than his teammates but is the worst at hitting the target. Of our 4 fit strikers he has the worst shot conversion rate at only 9%! For added comparison Vente’s shot conversion rate was 14% and Doidge was 15%.
He’s had 10 shots across our previous 2 home games and only hit the target once. Now we are fortunate that we can get away with that sort of finishing against the 2 worst teams in the league at home. However, in our final 5 games, particularly away from home, we will need our attackers to be a lot more clinical as we are unlikely to be afforded as many chances.
His finishing has been pretty rubbish this season, as your stats point out.
But he scored some nice goals and had a decent conversion rate for a couple of months under Johnson before getting injured, if I remember right.
Could be a Doidge situation where he just needs a couple to go in and it will start clicking again.
Only a few games left of the season and doubt we'll go for him over the summer anyway though.
Unseen work
17-04-2025, 11:53 AM
This might sound weird, but I’m not even sure it’s Myk’s finishing that’s the problem.
To me it’s his composure and decision making that’s the issue at the moment. He seems desperate to score that he’s lashing at things and taking a shot when he’s not properly set for it or just isn’t in a position to do so.
Gayle for example is so much better in this (understandably given his career) but he seems to shoot when it’s right.
The other issue with Myk is he just never really seems in a position to get a goal, maybe needs to work on gaining/finding a yard of space in the box aswell as the composure/decision making.
I was one that wanted him back, but he’s been dissapointing, albeit much better last couple of games. In his previous loan I thought he was a right handful and would bash centre halves about, now it seems like he’s the one getting bashed about a bit - I think he needs to work on his balance when the ball is getting played up to him as it will make him stronger and better at protecting the ball
B.H.F.C
17-04-2025, 12:01 PM
This might sound weird, but I’m not even sure it’s Myk’s finishing that’s the problem.
To me it’s his composure and decision making that’s the issue at the moment. He seems desperate to score that he’s lashing at things and taking a shot when he’s not properly set for it or just isn’t in a position to do so.
Gayle for example is so much better in this (understandably given his career) but he seems to shoot when it’s right.
The other issue with Myk is he just never really seems in a position to get a goal, maybe needs to work on gaining/finding a yard of space in the box aswell as the composure/decision making.
I was one that wanted him back, but he’s been dissapointing, albeit much better last couple of games. In his previous loan I thought he was a right handful and would bash centre halves about, now it seems like he’s the one getting bashed about a bit - I think he needs to work on his balance when the ball is getting played up to him as it will make him stronger and better at protecting the ball
A lot of that is probably down to lack of experience. He’s nearly 24 but has played less than a hundred games in his career.
I think he has some of the attributes to be a decent player but he’s not improved enough.
worcesterhibby
17-04-2025, 02:31 PM
A lot of that is probably down to lack of experience. He’s nearly 24 but has played less than a hundred games in his career.
I think he has some of the attributes to be a decent player but he’s not improved enough.
At least he's shown he's not injury prone, that was one of the concerns when we brought him back
Smartie
17-04-2025, 02:42 PM
This might sound weird, but I’m not even sure it’s Myk’s finishing that’s the problem.
To me it’s his composure and decision making that’s the issue at the moment. He seems desperate to score that he’s lashing at things and taking a shot when he’s not properly set for it or just isn’t in a position to do so.
Gayle for example is so much better in this (understandably given his career) but he seems to shoot when it’s right.
The other issue with Myk is he just never really seems in a position to get a goal, maybe needs to work on gaining/finding a yard of space in the box aswell as the composure/decision making.
I was one that wanted him back, but he’s been dissapointing, albeit much better last couple of games. In his previous loan I thought he was a right handful and would bash centre halves about, now it seems like he’s the one getting bashed about a bit - I think he needs to work on his balance when the ball is getting played up to him as it will make him stronger and better at protecting the ball
Agree 100% with your “the other issue” bit.
For Bowie’s goals on Saturday, I simply don’t believe that Myko would have been in either of those spots in order to finish.
I like Myko though, and I do think his contribution to our play outside the box is largely excellent. I couldn’t care less if he doesn’t score, as long as others are scoring and the team is winning.
badabing67
17-04-2025, 03:14 PM
For me, he has been a massive disappointment as first loan, he looked sharp and likely to score every game ( when fit)he but this time he has almost been like playing with a man short.
Cannot agree with this at all. He has started our last 3 games and we have won them 3-0 0-2 and 4-0 and one of those was away to Ibrox, you do not get results like that with 10 men for an hour, that is just nonsense imo. FWIW I think he is getting more effective game by game, I expect goals will come his way soon enough
Hibspur
18-04-2025, 09:50 AM
Cannot agree with this at all. He has started our last 3 games and we have won them 3-0 0-2 and 4-0 and one of those was away to Ibrox, you do not get results like that with 10 men for an hour, that is just nonsense imo. FWIW I think he is getting more effective game by game, I expect goals will come his way soon enough
Yep, I'd agree with that. I actually like him as a player. A couple of goals would have done him the world of good though.
B.H.F.C
26-04-2025, 09:37 PM
Expect he’ll be back in the team next week. Bowie looked miles off the pace today, as he did in his last start at Kilmarnock.
I actually thought bringing Bowie in was the right shout but you could see after 10 minutes why we’d been going with Myko from the start.
ancient hibee
26-04-2025, 10:23 PM
Yes,wrong time to change something that was working .
Smartie
26-04-2025, 10:39 PM
Yes,wrong time to change something that was working .
Whilst I’m 100% one of those who have been defending Myko’s recent level of performance (I think his general play has been more than satisfactory and the split of games between Myko and Bowie has been highly effective) I also think think that Gray had decent justification to make that change based on Bowie looking a far greater threat in his shorter time on the pitch vs Dundee.
Hindsight clearly registers it as a mistake but it’s far from the most contentious decision Gray will ever make.
neil7908
27-04-2025, 01:40 AM
I don't think Myko makes a big difference if he starts at Aberdeen. There was zero link between midfield and attack. We looked like a team desperate to come away with a point straight from kick off.
JimBHibees
27-04-2025, 08:42 AM
I don't think Myko makes a big difference if he starts at Aberdeen. There was zero link between midfield and attack. We looked like a team desperate to come away with a point straight from kick off.
Think he gets about the pitch better and Bowie has looked better as impact imo
JimBHibees
27-04-2025, 08:43 AM
Whilst I’m 100% one of those who have been defending Myko’s recent level of performance (I think his general play has been more than satisfactory and the split of games between Myko and Bowie has been highly effective) I also think think that Gray had decent justification to make that change based on Bowie looking a far greater threat in his shorter time on the pitch vs Dundee.
Hindsight clearly registers it as a mistake but it’s far from the most contentious decision Gray will ever make.
Think that is fair
ancient hibee
27-04-2025, 09:14 PM
Whilst I’m 100% one of those who have been defending Myko’s recent level of performance (I think his general play has been more than satisfactory and the split of games between Myko and Bowie has been highly effective) I also think think that Gray had decent justification to make that change based on Bowie looking a far greater threat in his shorter time on the pitch vs Dundee.
Hindsight clearly registers it as a mistake but it’s far from the most contentious decision Gray will ever make.
I think Bowiei is so effective because he comes on as a sub,knows how long he will play and paces himself accordingly. I suspect that he will not be properly fit until next season after a concentrated pre season
Donegal Hibby
27-04-2025, 10:26 PM
Think he gets about the pitch better and Bowie has looked better as impact imo
I agree .. wee question , would Myko possibly been a better option to put on for Bowie than Gayle ?
JimBHibees
28-04-2025, 05:52 AM
I agree .. wee question , would Myko possibly been a better option to put on for Bowie than Gayle ?
Personally would have done that
BILLYHIBS
28-04-2025, 06:40 AM
Need to get back to winning ways asap and get back on the front foot starting from Saturday
Myko starts to soften them up Bowie the last half hour and hopefully grabs another brace
Obita has done brilliant but need to get Nicky Cadden back in gives us more of an attacking option with his delivery experience and determination
Lewis Miller back would be great but only SDG knows how far N Cadden and Miller are fitness wise
GGTTH
1875Sean
03-05-2025, 09:12 PM
I know he isn’t as good as his first spell but he looks to be be getting better week on week, I’d take him back here next season if Swansea get rid of him
Unseen work
03-05-2025, 09:21 PM
Thought we saw both sides of Myko today.
Also saw signs of a good young striker that’s probably not played the amount of minutes he should have for his age due to injuries and other reasons - similar to Rocky perhaps?
Firstly his goal was brilliant. Sharp on to the ball, drove forward positively and at the finish was brilliant. Not an easy finish due to the angle and on his left foot.
His hold up play was hit and miss, still something I think he needs to improve on. At times he seems really easily pushed off the ball, I’ve said it before but I think it’s just learning how to balance and use his body against big defenders.
The only other thing is decision making, he’s clearly desperate for more goals. You could see a couple of players getting frustrated at him for cutting in and his shots getting blocked when there was maybe better options.
Overall I thought it was a good performance though and he’s been much better of late.
I think he’ll be on a good amount of money at Swansea which might make a permanent deal difficult if we were interested
B.H.F.C
03-05-2025, 09:32 PM
He’s not easy on the eye at times and lacks composure a lot of the time. But he’s done well in recent weeks and we’ve been a better team with him playing. You also get the benefit of Bowie coming on and making an impact, which he’s really struggled to do when he’s been in front of the start.
Silky
03-05-2025, 09:40 PM
He’s not easy on the eye at times and lacks composure a lot of the time. But he’s done well in recent weeks and we’ve been a better team with him playing. You also get the benefit of Bowie coming on and making an impact, which he’s really struggled to do when he’s been in front of the start.
I like Myko. I think he tries too hard sometimes. Needed a goal today and I'm glad he got it. You're right in what you say, he does lack composure but he's still young. I think he's been low on confidence as well. Hopefully has more to offer in the run-in.
Alfred E Newman
03-05-2025, 09:45 PM
He’s not easy on the eye at times and lacks composure a lot of the time. But he’s done well in recent weeks and we’ve been a better team with him playing. You also get the benefit of Bowie coming on and making an impact, which he’s really struggled to do when he’s been in front of the start.
He is a real handful for the opposing central defenders and after struggling to cope with his physical presence for over an hour , having to face Bowie for the last half an hour must be quite dispiriting.
scm70nyd1973
03-05-2025, 09:52 PM
He is a real handful for the opposing central defenders and after struggling to cope with his physical presence for over an hour , having to face Bowie for the last half an hour must be quite dispiriting.
I think that he is improving albeit a little slower than the rest but the thing for me is that for Myko and virtually all of the players it’s been a forward trajectory in terms of how their improvement has gone - that’s all about the Manager and the coaching staff - a joy to behold - I’m loving it 😁
Donegal Hibby
03-05-2025, 09:54 PM
His first loan I thought he looked good . Today it was clear to see the guys got ability and at his age the potential to get better is there . I think Triantis and Myko were two players Gray wanted back .. will be interesting to see if we try to sign both in the summer again ?
JohnM1875
03-05-2025, 10:06 PM
The big man isn't a lucky player at all is he? Scores a great goal then has to go off to get treatment from being burst open celebrating? Does a good bit of defending at the corner then swipes and misses the clearance that leads to their goal. Was clearly devastated after it.
After that though I think he still offered so much and is clearly getting better the more he plays.
My issue with him the first loan was he seemed injury prone, don't think that's the case now and if we could get a decent fee agreed with Swansea I think I'd be for it. Still only 23, so only a year older than Bowie and has plenty room for development.
pacorosssco
03-05-2025, 10:42 PM
Ran at players today was his best game of season.
HibeeMackenzie
03-05-2025, 10:49 PM
Myko has performed a thankless task brilliantly in the last couple of months, he’s chucked defenders about for an hour tired them out (in today’s case swung Gallagher like a baseball bat) and made it easy for Bowie to come and steam roll them
Delighted for the big chap to get his goal today
He's here!
03-05-2025, 10:58 PM
Thought he was excellent today A real handful and looking more confident by the game. I think he has a lot more to offer and wouldn't be surprised if Gray is angling to keep hold of him.
matty_f
03-05-2025, 11:14 PM
Thought he was excellent today A real handful and looking more confident by the game. I think he has a lot more to offer and wouldn't be surprised if Gray is angling to keep hold of him.
I agree - one of his best games for us. Attitude was brilliant today, and I was delighted to see him score.
neil7908
04-05-2025, 01:58 AM
Thought he was excellent today A real handful and looking more confident by the game. I think he has a lot more to offer and wouldn't be surprised if Gray is angling to keep hold of him.
Yup, one of his better performances for sure. If he could just be a bit cleverer in front of goal he'd score a lot more. He kept shifting onto his right foot to try and get a shot away but it got blocked time and time again. Defenders knew it was coming every time. It's strange as his goal was really well struck with his left so he has it in himself.
I've not been massively impressed by him in this spell but he definitely brings something else to the team and helps us link play. He also looked a lot more mobile today, albeit he's never going to be the best dribbler.
djw80!
04-05-2025, 04:49 AM
I'm really not impressed by him at all his season, we need better than him next season,he doesn't win much in the air for a guy 6"4 and is far too wasteful with chances. I want him to do well but for me it's a defo no for next season.
yerauldda
04-05-2025, 06:18 AM
I'm really not impressed by him at all his season, we need better than him next season,he doesn't win much in the air for a guy 6"4 and is far too wasteful with chances. I want him to do well but for me it's a defo no for next season.
Genuinely baffled how you can watch yesterday and come to that conclusion.
It’s not always easy on the eye but he’s very effective.
Quick, strong, works hard, chips in with goals and is always involved. Still only 23. I’d be keeping him.
hibsbollah
04-05-2025, 06:24 AM
Genuinely baffled how you can watch yesterday and come to that conclusion.
It’s not always easy on the eye but he’s very effective.
Quick, strong, works hard, chips in with goals and is always involved. Still only 23. I’d be keeping him.
To be fair he was talking about the entirety of the season, not just yesterday. Hes been given a lot of gametime with very little end product. Hes been unlucky at times with shots off the woodwork etc., but itll come down to a cost benefit analysis and how much he’ll cost.
CapitalGreen
04-05-2025, 06:43 AM
Genuinely baffled how you can watch yesterday and come to that conclusion.
It’s not always easy on the eye but he’s very effective.
Quick, strong, works hard, chips in with goals and is always involved. Still only 23. I’d be keeping him.
You’re genuinely baffled that someone believes a 6ft 4 player should win more than 2 aerial duals out of 14? 5ft 8 Junior Hoilett won more than that yesterday.
BILLYHIBS
04-05-2025, 06:52 AM
If we can get him cheap enough I would keep looks as though he still has improvement in him
Still three games to go though and could be useful
Three shots on target yesterday but as pointed out aerial duels won 2:14 a worry ?
JimBHibees
04-05-2025, 06:55 AM
Good to see him getting a goal yesterday worked so hard and hold up play was better good to see
B.H.F.C
04-05-2025, 07:07 AM
If we can get him cheap enough I would keep looks as though he still has improvement in him
Still three games to go though and could be useful
Three shots on target yesterday but as pointed out aerial duels won 2:14 a worry ?
It would be a worry if that was all he was being asked to do. It’s obviously not his strength, be it timing wise or whatever, despite his size. Overall, his impact was positive yesterday and I thought it was positive in his last few starts.
I don’t really think he’s been good enough over the course of the season but he’s definitely a player who has a lot of room for improvement with his physical attributes. A bit similar to Rocky in that sense IMO.
Winston Ingram
04-05-2025, 07:08 AM
I know he isn’t as good as his first spell but he looks to be be getting better week on week, I’d take him back here next season if Swansea get rid of him
I agree with this. I thought he was very good today.
Nicho87
04-05-2025, 07:08 AM
He’s improved a lot in the run of 4-5 starts on the bounce.
For a big unit he still doesn’t win enough in the air for me.
We could do a lot worse than sign but I wouldn’t be paying through the nose for him.
GreenPJ
04-05-2025, 07:36 AM
He has improved over the last few games and a good goal yesterday but he is only starting because Bowie isn't fit enough yet. He would go backwards again being a back up striker so for me we thank him for his efforts but look elsewhere for a backup/second striker
Pretty Boy
04-05-2025, 07:41 AM
I've been a critic of him but I thought he was very good yesterday. He ran their defence ragged and Bowie had a field day against knackered opponents when he came on.
I'm not sure where I stand on keeping him. There has to be some scope for improvement in the squad and that might be an area we think we can do so. I'm at a point now though where I trust the club to get it right in a way I haven't for the last 3 or 4 years so we'll see what happens.
He looked a lot fitter yesterday, earlier in the season he looked like he was towing a caravan but his goal showed his fitness levels were far higher, I think this is his major problem keeping fit. He's missed 45 games in 4 seasons of football, not great but keep him fit and you have a very decent player there.
Bobby's Cinema
04-05-2025, 07:18 PM
I thought he was a MoTM contender yesterday. Held it up and linked really well at times, as good as I've seen him in his second spell.
Hibees1973
04-05-2025, 07:20 PM
He hasn't done enough to merit us paying a fee and giving him a 2-3 year contract.
MagicSwirlingShip
04-05-2025, 07:22 PM
I think he will continue to get better. How long is his current contract?
Broken Gnome
04-05-2025, 07:28 PM
I'm torn. He's clearly effective, he works his arse off, but his hold up play is still a good bit off what it could/should be, and he's got this incredibly cumbersome air about him.
I would've had him a good bit off man of the match yesterday, particularly as his later minutes just seemed to be rampaging down the left channel then having easily telegraphed shots blocked when there were far better options.
bingo70
04-05-2025, 07:34 PM
I hope we keep him. He’s next seasons Rocky or Miller imo.
With a good pre-season, players around him who know him and a manager proven to get the most out of players, he’s got the potential to be a really effective player. Already starting to see the benefits of persevering with him, ripping up that process at the end of the season would be madness imo.
Appreciate other factors may mean a deal can’t be possible but if it can be done, I hope we do.
Paul1642
04-05-2025, 07:48 PM
I’ve seen enough to try and keep him if the price was right. Not seen enough to make him a top earner or a high transfer fee but he’s been a consent part of our great run of form and I’m a big believer that consistency is key to hitting the ground running next year.
I’d be keeping as much of this squad as possible.
tamig
04-05-2025, 08:34 PM
I know he isn’t as good as his first spell but he looks to be be getting better week on week, I’d take him back here next season if Swansea get rid of him
Agreed. He’s looking quicker and stronger with each game. So happy for him he finally got his well deserved goal yesterday. He’s been a key player for us recently and I’m still a bit miffed he was left out the starting eleven last week. He’s given centre halves a rough ride and Bowie coming on to do damage late on had worked a treat.
Donegal Hibby
04-05-2025, 11:03 PM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/swansea-loanee-kuharevich-hibs-uefa-conference-league-5112364
He's here!
15-05-2025, 09:09 PM
I'm very much in the 'keep' camp. Think there's more to come from him.
JimBHibees
15-05-2025, 09:16 PM
I'm very much in the 'keep' camp. Think there's more to come from him.
Agree getting better game to game
GreenCastle
15-05-2025, 09:16 PM
I like him and feel there is more to come.
He's a typical striker who feeds off confidence and good service.
Is that 6 goals now he's got for Hibs this season? If so that's the most at any club in his career.
Ok he's not prolific but he does seem to occupy defenders and can score all types of goals.
Donegal Hibby
15-05-2025, 09:23 PM
I'm very much in the 'keep' camp. Think there's more to come from him.
I wonder what’s our chances like of getting him back again ?
Hibspur
15-05-2025, 09:28 PM
I like him and feel there is more to come.
He's a typical striker who feeds off confidence and good service.
Is that 6 goals now he's got for Hibs this season? If so that's the most at any club in his career.
Ok he's not prolific but he does seem to occupy defenders and can score all types of goals.
Like you say he thrives on confidence and now that he's full of it the goals are coming more regularly. Defenders seem to find him a handful.
B.H.F.C
15-05-2025, 09:36 PM
I’d not be totally against keeping him but not desperate to keep him either.
If we can do a decent enough deal then ok, but I wouldn’t be going all out for him.
If Boyle is still here and we have an up to speed Bowie, then what we really need to ask, IMO, is whether we can get a better third and fourth striker than him and Gayle (who I don’t think will be here) or whether he merits one of those spots. I know Myko has played more than Bowie this year, but I expect Bowie to be first pick going in to next season.
Bobby's Cinema
15-05-2025, 09:47 PM
I’d not be totally against keeping him but not desperate to keep him either.
If we can do a decent enough deal then ok, but I wouldn’t be going all out for him.
If Boyle is still here and we have an up to speed Bowie, then what we really need to ask, IMO, is whether we can get a better third and fourth striker than him and Gayle (who I don’t think will be here) or whether he merits one of those spots. I know Myko has played more than Bowie this year, but I expect Bowie to be first pick going in to next season.
I thought he had another very good game last night.
I don't think he would be happy to be our third or fourth choice, whether we agree that's what he is or not.
He has won me round a bit. He has made a decent contribution to us ending up third. I agree I wouldn't be breaking the bank but would be happy to see him back. If we can keep the squad together and add one or two of real quality I'd be happy with that.
Unseen work
15-05-2025, 09:50 PM
A tricky one and one that’s probably harder to make a decision on because we’re ending on a high and so is he with 2 goals.
I was one that wanted him back and was happy we got him, I thought he was really good at occupying defenders and was a constant threat in multiple different ways.
This season he came back, struggled with fitness and then form. His inability to hold the ball up was hugely frustrating and then he never really looked like scoring, when he got a chance he would tend to want an extra touch.
2 goals in his last 3 and all of a sudden you can see his confidence is back, last night is probably the best link up and hold up play I’ve seen from him and thought he was very good.
It comes down to does SDG think he can improve him and is he worth the money/can we get better elsewhere.
I think we probably could get better elsewhere if I’m being honest, but he’s started a lot of goals for us in a side that’s finished 3rd.
He’ll be 24 in June and scored 7 goals in 26 appearances for us this season.
Myko, Dalby and Nisbet. You’d imagine those 3 are genuine players we could attract for that role up front with Boyle/Bowie. Dalby you’d imagine would thrive off the sort of delivery Nicky Cadden delivers and we all know what Nisbet can do. Never mind the hundreds of other attackers we’ll likely have scouted and Black Knights know.
HendoDelivered
15-05-2025, 10:10 PM
If we could get him for free or next to nothing I’d keep. Wouldn’t be spending say £500k plus on him though.
I’d rather go for Dalby who is a free agent this summer iirc.
Ronniekirk
15-05-2025, 10:22 PM
I’d not be totally against keeping him but not desperate to keep him either.
If we can do a decent enough deal then ok, but I wouldn’t be going all out for him.
If Boyle is still here and we have an up to speed Bowie, then what we really need to ask, IMO, is whether we can get a better third and fourth striker than him and Gayle (who I don’t think will be here) or whether he merits one of those spots. I know Myko has played more than Bowie this year, but I expect Bowie to be first pick going in to next season.
Bowie has so far not been able to play a whole game and make an impact Much better off the Bench When on form he is a great player and will hopefully only get better especially either a pre season behind him
But we will need to see how he performs in pre season to know if he is going to be playing full games week in week out
andrew70
15-05-2025, 11:29 PM
If we could get him for free or next to nothing I’d keep. Wouldn’t be spending say £500k plus on him though.
I’d rather go for Dalby who is a free agent this summer iirc.
Myk is a much better player than Dalby in my opinion.
Myk, Boyle, Nisbet, Gayle and Bowie for me please.
I think he’s a great battering ram. We seem to play best when he’s softened the defenders up for 60mins or so and then Bowie comes on to utilise his quicker pace and better finishing against already tired legs.
I’m in the keep if possible camp but I’m not too concerned if we decide to look elsewhere.
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Ribs1875
22-05-2025, 11:01 AM
A few articles out today along the lines of him considering his next move. Seems like he would be open to coming back. I must admit, I do like him. He is not the finished article, but I see the same in him as what I did with Boyle when he first arrived. Myko showed some quality and signs of improvement towards the end of the season. He gets himself into good positions, end product is needing some TLC. He's got a good attitude for his age and knows the clubs expectations.
I hope we can make the move happen, as I think he could become a good dynamic first team player for us.
neil7908
22-05-2025, 12:24 PM
A few articles out today along the lines of him considering his next move. Seems like he would be open to coming back. I must admit, I do like him. He is not the finished article, but I see the same in him as what I did with Boyle when he first arrived. Myko showed some quality and signs of improvement towards the end of the season. He gets himself into good positions, end product is needing some TLC. He's got a good attitude for his age and knows the clubs expectations.
I hope we can make the move happen, as I think he could become a good dynamic first team player for us.
Agreed. I wouldn't be breaking the bank for him but I think he offer us a physical presence up front that we lack.
Agreed. I wouldn't be breaking the bank for him but I think he offer us a physical presence up front that we lack.Now that he's had an injury free patch he's also improving. Could be more to come from him given SDG seems to have the touch in developing players and bringing the best of them.
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JeMeSouviens
22-05-2025, 12:31 PM
I'd be happy to have him back but there might well be better options out there. Don't think keeping him is a no brainer.
yerauldda
22-05-2025, 12:39 PM
Firmly in the keep camp. Started to see signs towards the end of the season that he showed in his first spell.
Gray clearly a fan, too. Pretty sure he pushed hard to get him back this season and he tended to start the big games for us when fit.
Since452
22-05-2025, 12:41 PM
Definitely keep.
overdrive
22-05-2025, 12:59 PM
Not his biggest fan this time round but I actually think we play better when he plays.
Ribs1875
22-05-2025, 01:21 PM
Guess we'll we will have to wait and see what happens over the summer.
JimBHibees
22-05-2025, 01:38 PM
Not his biggest fan this time round but I actually think we play better when he plays.
Thought he really improved near the end of the season
Jones28
22-05-2025, 01:41 PM
Did he get a run out v Rangers? I can't remember.
If he could carry his end of season form over to next then I'd be keen to keep him, he was excellent against Dundee Utd, really really good and was everything I want from a CF. Myko, Bowie and Boyle - and Youan if he stays - is a really good start to the forward area.
JimBHibees
22-05-2025, 01:42 PM
Did he get a run out v Rangers? I can't remember.
If he could carry his end of season form over to next then I'd be keen to keep him, he was excellent against Dundee Utd, really really good and was everything I want from a CF. Myko, Bowie and Boyle - and Youan if he stays - is a really good start to the forward area.
No he didn’t
Guess we'll we will have to wait and see what happens over the summer.Wait?
I reckon we should be refreshing the transfer threads 24/7, start freaking out a few days after the window has opened and berate the club for signing/not signing whichever players are involved. Its the only rational thing to do.
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Jones28
22-05-2025, 01:45 PM
No he didn’t
Didn't think so, seems strange he didn't get on the pitch if he wasn't planning to come back.
JimBHibees
22-05-2025, 02:16 PM
Didn't think so, seems strange he didn't get on the pitch if he wasn't planning to come back.
Possible may have had a knock from Saints game
B.H.F.C
22-05-2025, 02:26 PM
Didn't think so, seems strange he didn't get on the pitch if he wasn't planning to come back.
Thought Gray just wanted to get Bowie decent minutes then give Gayle his send off.
Ribs1875
22-05-2025, 02:37 PM
Wait?
I reckon we should be refreshing the transfer threads 24/7, start freaking out a few days after the window has opened and berate the club for signing/not signing whichever players are involved. Its the only rational thing to do.
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I have confidence in our recruitment strategy. We only seen 1 signing in January and a few were offloaded. We have a few leaving at the end of their contracts. This is the best position we have been in for a long time and have an opportunity to strengthen the current squad. SDG and MM will know exactly what we have left to work with. They will be identifying players who we could potentially be bringing in and ones we could move on.
Finishing the season as strong as we did and the prospect of playing group stage European football should enable us to punch above our weight in the transfer market. Let's not forget a falled £1 million was fronted for Luke McGowan last summer and in December we fronted a similar amount for Matias Siltanen. The latter is mid lower table with Djugardens fc in the Swedish league. Wonder if the same decision was put to him today, who he would choose.
CapitalGreen
22-05-2025, 02:47 PM
I have confidence in our recruitment strategy. We only seen 1 signing in January and a few were offloaded. We have a few leaving at the end of their contracts. This is the best position we have been in for a long time and have an opportunity to strengthen the current squad. SDG and MM will know exactly what we have left to work with. They will be identifying players who we could potentially be bringing in and ones we could move on.
Finishing the season as strong as we did and the prospect of playing group stage European football should enable us to punch above our weight in the transfer market. Let's not forget a falled £1 million was fronted for Luke McGowan last summer and in December we fronted a similar amount for Matias Siltanen. The latter is mid lower table with Djugardens fc in the Swedish league. Wonder if the same decision was put to him today, who he would choose.
Djurgardens were in the semi finals of the Europa Conference League.
Donegal Hibby
22-05-2025, 02:48 PM
Possible may have had a knock from Saints game
I think Gray mentioned something about a couple of players carrying knocks pre-match .
badabing67
22-05-2025, 03:37 PM
Thought Gray just wanted to get Bowie decent minutes then give Gayle his send off.
The fact that he didn't put Myko on for a send off as well, as it would of been his last game could be a clue, and Gray want's him back. (just thinking out loud)
Northernhibee
22-05-2025, 04:06 PM
I'd keep him. One of those strikers who creates space for others and puts in the world of work. Even if he's not scoring, he's contributing and that's what i want from my striker.
TrinityHFC
24-05-2025, 12:24 PM
There was a good bit of analysis on Hibs Observer about his stats and our stats when he plays. Have to admit I didn’t appreciate how important he’d was to the way we press. I’d like to see him back.
Stevie Reid
24-05-2025, 12:31 PM
The tactic we had in many of the games in the latter part of the season, with starting Myko and then bringing Bowie on, worked superbly. Last thing any defender would want to see is Bowie appearing after they’ve already had big Myk to deal with.
I know that Bowie will want to start more games, but if we end up in Europe til Xmas then we’ll need to use the squad smartly. Bringing Myko back if we can, is a no brainer for me.
I also got the feeling that we was never fully match fit this season, and only appeared to be getting fully into his stride at the season’s end.
I think we’ll see a very different player if he can stay fit and get a proper preseason behind him.
CapitalGreen
24-05-2025, 12:38 PM
There was a good bit of analysis on Hibs Observer about his stats and our stats when he plays. Have to admit I didn’t appreciate how important he’d was to the way we press. I’d like to see him back.
I read that article and thought it was quite poor. From what I remember, it didn’t provide a comparison of his stats with our other forwards, only against the league average. Gray has us pressing more than average compared to the rest of the league so it’s natural that our players will score higher on pressing stats. It would have been useful to see a comparison of Myko with our other forwards to see if he ranks significantly higher than the alternatives who are more proficient in goalscoring and chance creation.
B.H.F.C
24-05-2025, 12:57 PM
The tactic we had in many of the games in the latter part of the season, with starting Myko and then bringing Bowie on, worked superbly. Last thing any defender would want to see is Bowie appearing after they’ve already had big Myk to deal with.
I know that Bowie will want to start more games, but if we end up in Europe til Xmas then we’ll need to use the squad smartly. Bringing Myko back if we can, is a no brainer for me.
I also got the feeling that we was never fully match fit this season, and only appeared to be getting fully into his stride at the season’s end.
I think we’ll see a very different player if he can stay fit and get a proper preseason behind him.
I think Bowie will be our main centre forward next season. You could see that he was still chasing his fitness and was still short, Myko did well in the latter part of the season to cover and help us get more out of Bowie when we got him on the pitch later on in games.
I think that was something we did out of necessity rather than anything else. I think with his own pre season Bowie will be in a much better position to start games. The issue for Myko is, if that’s the case, I’m not sure he’d come on and make the same impact as Bowie from the bench. He doesn’t have Bowie’s quality in front of goal.
Hibbyradge
24-05-2025, 01:00 PM
Wait?
I reckon we should be refreshing the transfer threads 24/7, start freaking out a few days after the window has opened and berate the club for signing/not signing whichever players are involved. Its the only rational thing to do.
This.
I read that article and thought it was quite poor. From what I remember, it didn’t provide a comparison of his stats with our other forwards, only against the league average. Gray has us pressing more than average compared to the rest of the league so it’s natural that our players will score higher on pressing stats. It would have been useful to see a comparison of Myko with our other forwards to see if he ranks significantly higher than the alternatives who are more proficient in goalscoring and chance creation.Get fotmob or Sofascore, you can see their stats and traits on there.
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CapitalGreen
24-05-2025, 01:32 PM
Get fotmob or Sofascore, you can see their stats and traits on there.
Neither have the level of detail Hibs Observer are using in the article.
Stevie Reid
24-05-2025, 01:42 PM
I think Bowie will be our main centre forward next season. You could see that he was still chasing his fitness and was still short, Myko did well in the latter part of the season to cover and help us get more out of Bowie when we got him on the pitch later on in games.
I think that was something we did out of necessity rather than anything else. I think with his own pre season Bowie will be in a much better position to start games. The issue for Myko is, if that’s the case, I’m not sure he’d come on and make the same impact as Bowie from the bench. He doesn’t have Bowie’s quality in front of goal.
I agree that he will be, but if we are playing so many games in Europe, then starting him on the bench for a fair number of league games might be the smart move - even more so if we still have Myko.
Unseen work
24-05-2025, 01:57 PM
I fear a lot of us only want him back based on his past month, not the rest of the season.
I like to think with coming 3rd, some form of European football and the access through the Black Knights, that we can get better than Myk
Paul1642
24-05-2025, 02:25 PM
I fear a lot of us only want him back based on his past month, not the rest of the season.
I like to think with coming 3rd, some form of European football and the access through the Black Knights, that we can get better than Myk
We gained that 3rd place and the European football with Myko playing a large chunk of the time. If the price is decent we should be pursuing his signing.
Unseen work
24-05-2025, 02:33 PM
We gained that 3rd place and the European football with Myko playing a large chunk of the time. If the price is decent we should be pursuing his signing.
We did
But I think we should still be looking to improve where we can, I think Myko’s position is one we could potentially improve on
If he played like he did against St Mirren in the last game every week then happy days, I’m just not sure we’ll see that consistently enough
Paul1642
24-05-2025, 02:38 PM
We did
But I think we should still be looking to improve where we can, I think Myko’s position is one we could potentially improve on
If he played like he did against St Mirren in the last game every week then happy days, I’m just not sure we’ll see that consistently enough
Think we need to remember his age too. At 23 going to 24, he should be getting better by the year, and I think we certainly seen improvement recently.
Unseen work
24-05-2025, 02:44 PM
Think we need to remember his age too. At 23 going to 24, he should be getting better by the year, and I think we certainly seen improvement recently.
He’s probably similar to Rocky in that he’s not played the amount of minutes that he should have for his age
I wanted him back due to his first spell, however overall this season I found him disappointing. What I will say though as it looked like all confidence was zapped from him, I thought the change in his last couple performances were really good as he appeared more confident
ruthven_raiders
24-05-2025, 02:50 PM
He’s probably similar to Rocky in that he’s not played the amount of minutes that he should have for his age
I wanted him back due to his first spell, however overall this season I found him disappointing. What I will say though as it looked like all confidence was zapped from him, I thought the change in his last couple performances were really good as he appeared more confident
His confidence was a lot better, got to cut him some slack, worrying about his family in Ukraine and splitting up with his girlfriend. Move down south hasn't worked. Definitely should get him back and see a much improved player next season....
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