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[wookie70]

No idea why it has to be one or the other. I played Rugby and Football into adulthood and cricket and basketball among others for school teams and also afterwards for the odd game. I'd agree with many of the posts here. The majority of football and rugby fans are the same in terms of behaviour. The bad behaviour is a minority and is very much treated differently by the police. The policing of rugby and football before any issues arise is completely different too. It is almost as if the Police are looking for a fight at big football matches. That being said they would say they were preparing for the worst.

[Since90+2]

No idea why it has to be one or the other. I played Rugby and Football into adulthood and cricket and basketball among others for school teams and also afterwards for the odd game. I'd agree with many of the posts here. The majority of football and rugby fans are the same in terms of behaviour. The bad behaviour is a minority and is very much treated differently by the police. The policing of rugby and football before any issues arise is completely different too. It is almost as if the Police are looking for a fight at big football matches. That being said they would say they were preparing for the worst.

I love football, it's the best sport in the world but the simple difference is you do not get self identified groups of rugby supporters who band together in large numbers looking to fight with opposing fanbases.

This isn't about your average fan, it's these groups of numbers up to and over 100 young men dressing up with balaclavas on looking to cause trouble at times. I've never once heard of that happening at a Rugby game.

[Malthibby]

I know there is an element of tongue in cheek involved in the whole rugby chat but I genuinely think there is minimal difference between you average football and rugby fan. Not the extreme elements in either sport which take different forms but definitely exist.

You could easily allow beer at the football and have a whole unsegregated family section and there would be no notable change in the behaviour of most fans. The vast majority of games from League One and below in Scotland are unsegregated and there are no running battles, same as there are huge unsegregated sections and alcohol served at major international tournaments with no issues.


The issue for me is the 'most fans' because you are right but that''s also the problem: I happen to have been to a lot of Scottish games at Murrayfield in the past 3/4 years & taken football friends who were initially very agitated by the fact that we could drink at the games; a Celtic season ticket holder in particular due to his politics (which I entirely agree with) was no' happy. Bottom line is that he accepted that he knew and saw too many of his team's supporters who would not drink responsibly and not the way rugby fans were behaving would translate well to Parkhead.. It's a minority but I've also seen too many drunks at ER over the years to believe there would not be trouble - it's a minority, most folk would be fine but that minority would make life grim for everyone around them. It's a cultural thing and I don't like what it says about our society but it's a consequence that I don't think there's any point denying.

[CapitalGreen]

Rugby's actually a harder game to excel at than football.

By what method is this measured?

[Since90+2]

By what method is this measured?

Football is a far harder game to excel at. It's a numbers game, football is played by a massive number of people compared to Rugby across the world, to become a professional footballer you are competing against millions upon millions of others who want to make it to that level.

Very very few do.

In Rugby the number of players is far lower so your chances of success are higher as you are competing against a much smaller talent pool.

[Hibbyradge]

They can make all the statements they want but whether they have a point or not is largely irrelevant.

The police have a duty to protect the public be that in the streets or in the stadiums so they will continue to try to nip any bad behaviour in the bud.

Why are they wearing face coverings? Exactly!

[He's here!]

Football is a far harder game to excel at. It's a numbers game, football is played by a massive number of people compared to Rugby across the world, to become a professional footballer you are competing against millions upon millions of others who want to make it to that level.

Very very few do.

In Rugby the number of players is far lower so your chances of success are higher as you are competing against a much smaller talent pool.

I'm referring to the demands of the game not the number playing it.

Both rugby and football are well down the list of most demanding sports (across numerous measures) though, most of which are individual eg gymnastics is well out in front (followed by boxing and mixed martial arts (MMA) and fencing, although the latter is often inclded as a MMA), with ice hockey the most demanding team sport.

[Hibby70]

Rugby fans don't express any where near the passion that football fans have for their club.

It's a completely different thing, rugby crowds are more akin to a theatre crowd than football so it's no surprise that football attracts folk that are a bit more troublesome

[Since90+2]

Rugby fans don't express any where near the passion that football fans have for their club.

It's a completely different thing, rugby crowds are more akin to a theatre crowd than football so it's no surprise that football attracts folk that are a bit more troublesome

Agreed.

I think that's why we see the difference in the way each sports supporters are policed.

[Since90+2]

I'm referring to the demands of the game not the number playing it.

Both rugby and football are well down the list of most demanding sports (across numerous measures) though, most of which are individual eg gymnastics is well out in front (followed by boxing and mixed martial arts (MMA) and fencing, although the latter is often inclded as a MMA), with ice hockey the most demanding team sport.

It might be more physically demanding, but that doesn't make it harder to excel, it just makes it more physical.

The level of skill and technique in football compared to Rugby for instance are miles apart.

[He's here!]

It might be more physically demanding, but that doesn't make it harder to excel, it just makes it more physical.

The level of skill and technique in football compared to Rugby for instance are miles apart.

The measures are more than just physical, although strength and conditioning have played a far bigger role in rugby since the advent of professionalism.

Skill, stamina and tactical awareness are among the numerous other measures. I recall seeing Michael O'Neill giving a talk (possibly at the Sheffield Institute of Sport) where he pointed out that the average footballer is capable of absorbing no more than three minutes of tactical instruction. Any more and you've lost them as a manager. You get exceptions obviously like Alan 'all yer brains are in yer effin head' Gordon but football's popularity is largely down to its inherent simplicity compared to many other sports.

Easy to underrate the skill and technique of elite rugby players. Check out Antoine Dupont or Finn Russell. Absolute wizards.

[LewysGot2]

Thought this was about our current ultra incarnation :confused:

That statement reeks of entitlement. Entitled to do what they want because “ultras scene”

If they want to start by cleaning up their minging mess on the graveyard walls where our own Dan McMichael lies in state, that might be good…then show a bit of respect to fellow fans at away games. Maybe not forcing folks from their seats? Or all the other selfish stuff that has gone on over recent years. As others have said, I’m sick of being “treated badly” at Pittodrie or Motherwell or Tynecastle because they have put targets on all our backs. Not us, them.
As for thinking any innocent intentions involve wearing a balaclava for any reason in everyday life is normal or that it is not something that makes other members of society feel uncomfortable, well…


Over to Statement UHs to remove so many of the reasons Polis Alba have been put in this situation…

[7Hero]

In a perfect world we would be allowed booze at the footy and the minority who want to cause trouble would be dealt with by the authorities, the issue isn;t so much the fans more the Police's inability to be able to deal with any trouble.

[Hibbyradge]

In a perfect world we would be allowed booze at the footy and the minority who want to cause trouble would be dealt with by the authorities, the issue isn;t so much the fans more the Police's inability to be able to deal with any trouble.

That's exactly what the police are trying to do and the statement ultras don't like it.

[McD]

In a perfect world we would be allowed booze at the footy and the minority who want to cause trouble would be dealt with by the authorities, the issue isn;t so much the fans more the Police's inability to be able to deal with any trouble.



This reads as if you’re saying it’s the police’s fault that trouble happens

[Bostonhibby]

Like me, you remember the days when footballers were allowed to tackle and opponents were ignored when they flopped to the ground.[emoji106]

They don't know how easy they've got it these days. We used to have to fight a lion just to get into the reserve team.

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[Bridge hibs]

In a perfect world we would be allowed booze at the footy and the minority who want to cause trouble would be dealt with by the authorities, the issue isn;t so much the fans more the Police's inability to be able to deal with any trouble.

In a perfect world they could stop acting like wee fannies and they wouldnt need to worry about the Police.

[hibee316]

In a perfect world we would be allowed booze at the footy and the minority who want to cause trouble would be dealt with by the authorities, the issue isn;t so much the fans more the Police's inability to be able to deal with any trouble.

That's a wild take.

Surely by using Section 60 there are dealing with trouble?

[SHODAN]

They have a 1312 banner today.

[Bridge hibs]

They have a 1312 banner today.

What is 13 12 reference, their ages ?

[SHODAN]

What is 13 12 reference, their ages ?

Code for ACAB (all cops are *******s).

[Bridge hibs]

Code for ACAB (all cops are *******s).

Ah I thought ACAB meant Always Carry A Bible, thought our young uns had moved from politics to religion

[Lendo]

What is 13 12 reference, their ages ?
That or their IQ

[Paul1642]

What is 13 12 reference, their ages ?

The number of people who care about their pish.

[nonshinyfinish]

In Craigmillar, Niddrie and Bingham they were so ****ing tough they played football with the Elgin marbles, none o those leather ***** balls 🤣

They're called the Elgin marbles because they're made of marble, they're not round…

[Moulin Yarns]

They're called the Elgin marbles because they're made of marble, they're not round…

I was imagining the score if we played against the Elgin marbles

[Bridge hibs]

They're called the Elgin marbles because they're made of marble, they're not round…

Our ones were, we got them from Temu

[Bostonhibby]

Our ones were, we got them from TemuNon round Elgin marbles are for wimps.

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[GreenCastle]

Felt the songs and noise from behind the goals was really good today.

Good atmosphere all round.

[JohnM1875]

Felt the songs and noise from behind the goals was really good today.

Good atmosphere all round.

Yup, well done B7 today.

[matty_f]

Code for ACAB (all cops are *******s).

I’m sure that will endear them to the police who will almost certainly be more motivated to treat them better in future. 😁

[Hibs Go Bragh]

Felt the songs and noise from behind the goals was really good today.

Good atmosphere all round.

Yep very good all round. That’s all they need to do though, start songs, bang the drum, get the whole stadium involved. They don’t need to wear balaclavas and fight in the streets to do that!

[matty_f]

Felt the songs and noise from behind the goals was really good today.

Good atmosphere all round.

The singing and noise from them was brilliant today, definitely helped with a good atmosphere overall.

[GreenCastle]

Hopefully they can put together a display for the final home game thanking all the players and staff for their efforts this season.

[Glory Lurker]

Singing that "Celtc are the team for me and you" song. I am generally confident they have different words for it, but that'll not be entirely guaranteed with that lot.

[blackpoolhibs]

Going against the grain, but i couldnt hear them at all today, all i could hear was that ****in drum to my right and the same to the left from their lot.:rolleyes:

And what the hell was that uggy uggy uggy all about?

Great win though. :greengrin

[Pretty Boy]

Singing that "Celtc are the team for me and you" song. I am generally confident they have different words for it, but that'll not be entirely guaranteed with that lot.

I think all the ultras groups just sing variations on the same songs.

There was a squad of Dundee fans in the pub around us pre match and it sounded like they were singing Hibs songs. That one you mention but with something about Simon Murray dropped in, 'super Trevor Carson in goal', Discolands etc etc

GGTTH getting a fully airing every week is a more than decent trade off though imo.

[tonyrougier123]

Wonder how much a personalised Rocky Bushiri tifo would cost 🤔

[malcolm]

The singing and noise from them was brilliant today, definitely helped with a good atmosphere overall.

Well apart from those infernal drums - absolute torture to the ears. I am of the view that these are items ‘capable of holding liquid’ and so should be banned from being brought into the stadium :greengrin

[hibee]

Going against the grain, but i couldnt hear them at all today, all i could hear was that ****in drum to my right and the same to the left from their lot.:rolleyes:

And what the hell was that uggy uggy uggy all about?

Great win though. :greengrin

I sit above them and can only hear the drum and the guy with the megaphone that abuses them for not signing, I’m sure I’d hear them if they gave the drum a break.

[Glory Lurker]

Well apart from those infernal drums - absolute torture to the ears. I am of the view that these are items ‘capable of holding liquid’ and so should be banned from being brought into the stadium :greengrin

And then the Dundee lot started with their one...

[JohnM1875]

Wonder how much a personalised Rocky Bushiri tifo would cost 🤔

If you find out let me know, want it for my bedroom.

[Jack]

They've gone too far!

Scarf twirling. Just NO!!

[Onceinawhile]

Going against the grain, but i couldnt hear them at all today, all i could hear was that ****in drum to my right and the same to the left from their lot.:rolleyes:

And what the hell was that uggy uggy uggy all about?

Great win though. :greengrin

That was the section 9f the east closest to the south. There was about 50 aussie tourists singing aussie aussie ausiie.

Oi oi oi

[blackpoolhibs]

That was the section 9f the east closest to the south. There was about 50 aussie tourists singing aussie aussie ausiie.

Oi oi oi

I thought it was uggy uggy uggy.:greengrin

[Glory Lurker]

I thought it was uggy uggy uggy.:greengrin

Maybe there was a load of Welsh valleys tourists too?

[Jack Hackett]

Going against the grain, but i couldnt hear them at all today, all i could hear was that ****in drum to my right and the same to the left from their lot.:rolleyes:

And what the hell was that uggy uggy uggy all about?

Great win though. :greengrin

Same on the tellybox... couldn't hear the ***** drums either... which was nice :greengrin... Watched the 2nd half of the Dons game earlier, and had to mute :rolleyes:

A tv scan of the so called 'ultras' at ER was like one of a school playground. I was actually embarrassed that they're taken seriously

[Carheenlea]

https://x.com/ims_afc/status/1916165581054558330?s=46

And they get tickets set aside every away game for this too.

[Chorley Hibee]

As I said on the matchday thread.

I saw all the nonsense as I was leaving the ground.

Miraculously, they all managed to obtain tickets, again, and amazingly they all managed to obtain the prime seats together.

Time for Hibs to remove the privileges they quite clearly have.

[SHODAN]

As I said on the matchday thread.

I saw all the nonsense as I was leaving the ground.

Miraculously, they all managed to obtain tickets, again, and amazingly they all managed to obtain the prime seats together.

Time for Hibs to remove the privileges they quite clearly have.

I don't get why we keep enabling them.

[Chorley Hibee]

I don't get why we keep enabling them.

Today should be the end of it.

An utter embarrassment.

Rather amusing that a single steward seemed to be taking on these 'ultras' almost single handed.

[Bridge hibs]

I don't get why we keep enabling them.

Because they bang a drum and make a noise. Think they will be feeling a bit silly today after their greeting face “police are being bad to us” statement last week. There's the reason you ****ing thickwits

[Chorley Hibee]

Because they bang a drum and make a noise. Think they will be feeling a bit silly today after their greeting face “police are being bad to us” statement last week. There's the reason you ****ing thickwits

On another note, I'd love someone to explain to me why I can't take my daughter's water bottle into games (when she attends) but these clowns are allowed drums, drumsticks, poles and more.

It's ****ing ridiculous how much they've been enabled by both the club and the authorities.

[Pretty Boy]

What's actually going on in that video? Is that before or after the game? If it's after where are they trying to go? If it's before why are the polis stopping them going down the stairs?

Not a lot of context to go on.

[Chorley Hibee]

What's actually going on in that video? Is that before or after the game? If it's after where are they trying to go? If it's before why are the polis stopping them going down the stairs?

Not a lot of context to go on.

It's after the game.

They initially game out of the stand trying to gain access to the Aberdeen end, when they couldn't do that, they turned and charged back into the stand when this happened.

It was probably hangers on though.

[Bridge hibs]

I heard one of the blockhead 7 had his blackcurrant fruit shoot confiscated and he wasnt happy so called on back up to retrieve it as it belongs to his play piece

[LewysGot2]

They're currently in Forfar McDs buying Happy Meals...

[Pretty Boy]

It's after the game.

They initially game out of the stand trying to gain access to the Aberdeen end, when they couldn't do that, they turned and charged back into the stand when this happened.

It was probably hangers on though.

Cheers.

Not a good look for them and does nothing to help their case when moaning about the police hassling them.

[hibsbollah]

https://x.com/ims_afc/status/1916165581054558330?s=46

And they get tickets set aside every away game for this too.

Absolutely brilliant effort by the steward there, landing some quality shots. I actually like it that they're not living up to the 'minimum wage so wont get involved' stereotype.
Overall its not really very impressive brawling is it, all happening very slowly, like theres a load of quicksand on the stairway.

[.Sean.]

https://x.com/ims_afc/status/1916165581054558330?s=46

And they get tickets set aside every away game for this too.
The most embarrassing thing in the video is Aberdeen actually playing Joy Division over the tannoy after the game, when their mid season implosion was the very definition of falling apart 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[marinello59]

It's after the game.

They initially game out of the stand trying to gain access to the Aberdeen end, when they couldn't do that, they turned and charged back into the stand when this happened.

It was probably hangers on though.

The ultimate hold me back moment then. :greengrin

[.Sean.]

I don't get why we keep enabling them.
Especially now, since their best pal is no longer at the club

[Just_Jimmy]

The quicker these ultra groups get to f. The better.

Block 7 are a stain on Hibernian FC.

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Get them gone.

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[Bostonhibby]

The ultimate hold me back moment then. :greengrinNumpties, no idea why Hibs indulge them.

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[Since90+2]

Absolutely brilliant effort by the steward there, landing some quality shots. I actually like it that they're not living up to the 'minimum wage so wont get involved' stereotype.
Overall its not really very impressive brawling is it, all happening very slowly, like theres a load of quicksand on the stairway.

It's not an "absolutely brilliant effort" from the steward, it's ridiculous behaviour. Stewards are there to try and keep the peace, if they can't do that they should desculate and if the situation gets out with their control leave it to Police officers.

Stewards throwing hooks left right and centre at fans is not something we want to see (well atleast I don't).

That's not to defend B7 here. Sounds like they were up to their usual nonsense, but two wrongs don't make a right.

[marinello59]

Numpties, no idea why Hibs indulge them.

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I suspect action will be taken after the club see that video.

[DIXIHIBS]

The most embarrassing thing in the video is Aberdeen actually playing Joy Division over the tannoy after the game, when their mid season implosion was the very definition of falling apart 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Thought that too. Blowing a 25 point lead is the ultimate falling apart...

[mcohibs]

What started it?

[hibee bouncer]

On another note, I'd love someone to explain to me why I can't take my daughter's water bottle into games (when she attends) but these clowns are allowed drums, drumsticks, poles and more.

It's ****ing ridiculous how much they've been enabled by both the club and the authorities.

Get in touch with the ticket office and they’ll sort you out with a “liquid pass” for your daughter. Top notch service and avoids the regular arguments with the stewards upon entry.

Agree with your B7 comments too btw - just wanted to highlight the liquid pass.

[wookie70]

What started it?Not sure. It was well after the game. Hibs players had left the field. I saw it after I photographed the Dons players going in the tunnel after their lap. Initially it was 6 to 10 wrestling with stewards, Fagan taken aside or maybe got out of it in case he got lifted.Then the rest all ran back down the stairs. Total embarrassment to the club. The Hibs security boy didn't look to pleased as he walked back to the scene

[Chorley Hibee]

Get in touch with the ticket office and they’ll sort you out with a “liquid pass” for your daughter. Top notch service and avoids the regular arguments with the stewards upon entry.

Agree with your B7 comments too btw - just wanted to highlight the liquid pass.

Thanks, mate.

Wasn't aware of such a thing.

[Chorley Hibee]

Not sure. It was well after the game. Hibs players had left the field. I saw it after I photographed the Dons players going in the tunnel after their lap. Initially it was 6 to 10 wrestling with stewards, Fagan taken aside or maybe got out of it in case he got lifted.Then the rest all ran back down the stairs. Total embarrassment to the club. The Hibs security boy didn't look to pleased as he walked back to the scene

They'd all initially left the stand and charged past me trying to gain entrance to the Aberdeen end (Section R) which was closed off at the entrance.

When this failed, they all charged back into the stand, leading to the scenes we've seen above.

As I said, all privileges need removed immediately and the enabling of these utter clowns brought to an end.

[DH1875]

Complain about heavy handiness of the police. Police do nothing these days. Wait till the police actually start lifting them.

[wookie70]

They'd all initially left the stand and charged past me trying to gain entrance to the Aberdeen end (Section R) which was closed off at the entrance.

When this failed, they all charged back into the stand, leading to the scenes we've seen above.

As I said, all privileges need removed immediately and the enabling of these utter clowns brought to an end. There was a small group wrestling with Stewards for a good few minutes before the larger group came back

[1875M]

Embarrassing. Getting first priority for tickets, somehow luckily getting to sit together (pushing other Hibs fans out their seats), and now embarrassing the club. Just get on the train / bus home . Clowns.

[Hibs Go Bragh]

They'd all initially left the stand and charged past me trying to gain entrance to the Aberdeen end (Section R) which was closed off at the entrance.

When this failed, they all charged back into the stand, leading to the scenes we've seen above.

As I said, all privileges need removed immediately and the enabling of these utter clowns brought to an end.

What were they hoping the achieve getting into the Aberdeen end given their ultras are in a different stand?!

There’s videos of the Raith and Morton ultras chasing each other around the streets and into peoples gardens. Imagine looking out your window and these wee gimps are squaring up to each other in your front garden!

The whole ultra thing needs to stop now.

[blackpoolhibs]

What were they hoping the achieve getting into the Aberdeen end given their ultras are in a different stand?!

There’s videos of the Raith and Morton ultras chasing each other around the streets and into peoples gardens. Imagine looking out your window and these wee gimps are squaring up to each other in your front garden!

The whole ultra thing needs to stop now.

I'd think my garden gnomes had come to life.

[Glory Lurker]

As long as stuff like this goes on, we'll never be allowed bevvy at fitba. The irony of course being that they'll not be legal drinking age this decade.

[SHODAN]

I suspect action will be taken after the club see that video.

Will it though? They do this at least a few times every season and radio silence from the club. You can bet even if someone had a quiet word with them it wouldn't stay behind closed doors for long; they'd turn it into one of their pathetic wee statements.

Their away game privileges should be canned, NOW. How ****ing dare the club give the plum seats to these spoiled little brats ahead of people who actually ****ing deserve it? It's beyond a joke.

[LunasBoots]

Cant be hard to find them and ban them with only a small section of STs getting tickets. What does HFF stand for, lots of graffiti around Leith from Block 7 with this on it?

[B.H.F.C]

What's actually going on in that video? Is that before or after the game? If it's after where are they trying to go? If it's before why are the polis stopping them going down the stairs?

Not a lot of context to go on.

I was out the back after the game and they all started sprinting back in to pretend to have a fight.

[DH1875]

Everyone saying they are just kids. The boy at the end of the clip that's got grey hair and four stewards around him must have some paper round.

[JohnM1875]

Everyone saying they are just kids. The boy at the end of the clip that's got grey hair and four stewards around him must have some paper round.

‘Just kids’ is a pish argument anyway. Being a kid doesn't make you a ****.

[Pretty Boy]

Everyone saying they are just kids. The boy at the end of the clip that's got grey hair and four stewards around him must have some paper round.

My favourite is the guy with the oversized shades and the guy who seems to have forgotten he isn't wearing his mask anymore and poses for pictures.

[marinello59]

https://x.com/ims_afc/status/1916165581054558330?s=46

And they get tickets set aside every away game for this too.

I’ve watched this several times now and I still have no idea what they were trying to do. There must have been something before this kicked off given that it started after the game.

[LewysGot2]

Everyone saying they are just kids. The boy at the end of the clip that's got grey hair and four stewards around him must have some paper round.

Think that's the old boy in Oliver Twist

[Nakedmanoncrack]

I’ve watched this several times now and I still have no idea what they were trying to do. There must have been something before this kicked off given that it started after the game.

The violence seems to be almost exclusively from those in yellow, but something presumably happened prior to this.

[Cod Boy]

What age do you need to be Hibs first holder 18 or over?

[skankomcphee]

Everyone saying they are just kids. The boy at the end of the clip that's got grey hair and four stewards around him must have some paper round.

Think I’ve seen this guy with them at Easter Road in the past too. What’s his role?

[skankomcphee]

Think that's the old boy in Oliver Twist

You mean Fagin?

[mcohibs]

Did the club ever give an answer as to whether this lot were all Hibs first members or not?

[J-C]

They're an embarrassment, time to cut them loose and treat them like any other punter.

[matty_f]

Saw a couple of posts on Facebook saying the stewards started it, very similar to when they were fighting stewards at Easter Rd earlier in the season.

The boys were just defending their mates.

Incredible bad luck for that to happen twice in a season. Have to feel for them, really.

[danhibees1875]

Saw a couple of posts on Facebook saying the stewards started it, very similar to when they were fighting stewards at Easter Rd earlier in the season.

The boys were just defending their mates.

Incredible bad luck for that to happen twice in a season. Have to feel for them, really.

I remember back in my stewarding days, I'd love nothing more than livening up a boring shift with a little rammy.

They paid me a - minimum - wage to get stuck in, not just stand around and tell people where the closest toilet is.

[Tarrahib]

:wink:
Saw a couple of posts on Facebook saying the stewards started it, very similar to when they were fighting stewards at Easter Rd earlier in the season.

The boys were just defending their mates.

Incredible bad luck for that to happen twice in a season. Have to feel for them, really.
Yes, if I had luck like that I wouldn’t be buying any lottery tickets.

[Bridge hibs]

Saw a couple of posts on Facebook saying the stewards started it, very similar to when they were fighting stewards at Easter Rd earlier in the season.

The boys were just defending their mates.

Incredible bad luck for that to happen twice in a season. Have to feel for them, really.Yeah one of their cheerleaders will be on to agree with you, they were victims again, ****ing big bad stewards, wonder what their next statement will be

[Chorley Hibee]

They're an embarrassment, time to cut them loose and treat them like any other punter.

How the hell did we get to a situation where a group of trouble-making youngsters are holding the club to ransom, it seems, over ticket allocations, seating arrangements and what they can/can't bring into a stadium?

Would me and my mates be afforded this luxury?

Also, why the **** are the cops just stood there watching it develop instead of lifting these clowns and getting them in a cell for the night.

I really hope this is the final nail in their coffin, but I've doubts that we'll hear anything from the club on the matter.

[Carheenlea]

Did the club ever give an answer as to whether this lot were all Hibs first members or not?

The line is often given that they are, but the limited ticketing for this game exposed some discrepancies.

Hibs First taking a full allocation (at the very most) out of the 790 available seats and what was left for ST holders to buy didn’t add up.

Yes, there are some comps, but not that many surely. I think we know where a good chunk of the set aside tickets went along with a designated section within the stand.

I don’t think we need any more answers from the club.

[.Sean.]

No statement yet? :dummytit:

[J-C]

How the hell did we get to a situation where a group of trouble-making youngsters are holding the club to ransom, it seems, over ticket allocations, seating arrangements and what they can/can't bring into a stadium?

Would me and my mates be afforded this luxury?

Also, why the **** are the cops just stood there watching it develop instead of lifting these clowns and getting them in a cell for the night.

I really hope this is the final nail in their coffin, but I've doubts that we'll hear anything from the club on the matter.

I know Kensell loved them like his own kids for some weird reason, I thought after he left, they'd lose all their stupid privileges, obviously not.

[marinello59]

I’m still struggling to see how that situation could have occurred at the end of the game. I’ve worked on a few theories but none really make sense. We aren’t seeing what triggered this. No excuse for brawling with stewards in but a bit of context would be good.

[DH1875]

Them leaving the stadium and then going back in to fight stewards doesn't make much sense.

[Keith_M]

...Imagine looking out your window and these wee gimps are squaring up to each other in your front garden!
.


They wouldn't last 2 minutes wi' ma missus.

[Keith_M]

No statement yet? :dummytit:


Lack of respect for Ultras culture.

Unfair treatment by the Polis.

A big boy did it and ran away.

[Bostonhibby]

Lack of respect for Ultras culture.

Unfair treatment by the Polis.

A big boy did it and ran away.Couldnae see out our balaclava or we'd have given the a good hiding/pavement danced so much better?

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[HFC93]

I'm surprised we've not had the usual 'we were all young once', 'boys will be boys', etc post yet.

[Since90+2]

Them leaving the stadium and then going back in to fight stewards doesn't make much sense.

From that video too the only person throwing punches is a steward, a bit of shoving apart from that.

[jakedance]

I’m still struggling to see how that situation could have occurred at the end of the game. I’ve worked on a few theories but none really make sense. We aren’t seeing what triggered this. No excuse for brawling with stewards in but a bit of context would be good.

Could it be that they’re just bawbags?

[McD]

How the hell did we get to a situation where a group of trouble-making youngsters are holding the club to ransom, it seems, over ticket allocations, seating arrangements and what they can/can't bring into a stadium?

Would me and my mates be afforded this luxury?

Also, why the **** are the cops just stood there watching it develop instead of lifting these clowns and getting them in a cell for the night.

I really hope this is the final nail in their coffin, but I've doubts that we'll hear anything from the club on the matter.



Hopefully, but I think it’s more likely the club will stay quiet and hope the furore dies down over the summer, then it’ll all repeat again next season

[cocopops1875]

From that video too the only person throwing punches is a steward, a bit of shoving apart from that.

Agree though there’s clearly other arms flying about hard to tell what intent there is but his blue sleeves stand out massively as very aggressive and unprofessional, what I’ve been trying to establish is whether this footage shows the first punches thrown by the stewards ?

[Brooster]

5 or so of them were fighting up the back of the stand during the game too. It's getting a bit out of hand.

[lucky]

The stewards looked like they were the ones throwing the punches. No was arrested which tells you everything about a non incident involving a handful of daft boys and over aggressive stewards. The ultras are just a passing phase like the casuals, skinheads and bover boot boys before them. Rather than ban fans they should be encouraged to enjoy the game without the violence

[Chorley Hibee]

The stewards looked like they were the ones throwing the punches. No was arrested which tells you everything about a non incident involving a handful of daft boys and over aggressive stewards. The ultras are just a passing phase like the casuals, skinheads and bover boot boys before them. Rather than ban fans they should be encouraged to enjoy the game without the violence

Why did a crowd of them run out of the stand attempting to gain access to section R (Aberdeen end) prior to this incident?

I witnessed the above with my own eyes and their intent was to cause trouble, nothing else.

Everywhere they go, trouble follows, yet we still have apologists trying to explain away these incidents.

Nobody else yesterday had any issue with the stewards/police at the ground, only these clowns.

That should tell you everything.

[Billy Whizz]

Why did a crowd of them run out of the stand attempting to gain access to section R (Aberdeen end) prior to this incident?

I witnessed the above with my own eyes and their intent was to cause trouble, nothing else.

Everywhere they go, trouble follows, yet we still have apologists trying to explain away these incidents.

Nobody else yesterday had any issue with the stewards/police at the ground, only these clowns.

That should tell you everything.

Not sure about that
I was sitting in the seat nearest the red segregation rope. The area below was pelted by missiles from the nearest few rows of the Aberdeen support, there was 13 rows between us
Cup, vapes etc were thrown, the stewards and the police turned a blind eye to it

[Salisbury Hibby]

It shouldn't be swept under the carpet. In fact I'd welcome a transparent investigation. I don't think anyone is entirely blameless here.


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[badabing67]

I know Kensell loved them like his own kids for some weird reason, I thought after he left, they'd lose all their stupid privileges, obviously not.

The club have not appointed his replacement yet. but this something the club and the new CEO will need to address.

[Keith_M]

Get in touch with the ticket office and they’ll sort you out with a “liquid pass” for your daughter. Top notch service and avoids the regular arguments with the stewards upon entry.

Agree with your B7 comments too btw - just wanted to highlight the liquid pass.


I didn't know that either, thanks so much for sharing


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[GreenCastle]

Really liked the tifo before the game.

Credit to whoever sorted all that - definitely added to the occasion and atmosphere.

Hopefully they can sort a Europe themed one for final game against the Huns.

Anyone got any pictures they can post of today’s effort.

[Onceinawhile]

Turned the banner back i see

[Pedantic_Hibee]

They wouldn't last 2 minutes wi' ma missus.

Why, is she tidy?

[KdyHby]

Really liked the tifo before the game.

Credit to whoever sorted all that - definitely added to the occasion and atmosphere.

Hopefully they can sort a Europe themed one for final game against the Huns.

Anyone got any pictures they can post of today’s effort.

According to their tweet, the whole tifo cost £2316:

Thank you to all supporters who took part in today’s Tifo.

Fabric for surfer - £306
Plastic for banners - £165
Tape - £195
Spray paint - £330
Flag poles - £400
Flags - £620
Delivery fees - £300

Total - £2,316

If you would like to contribute towards future displays, please donate to our GoFundMe or PayPal accounts.

GoFundMe: gofundme.com/f/easter-road-…

PayPal: paypal.com/paypalme/Ultra…

[gorgie greens]

According to their tweet, the whole tifo cost £2316:

Thank you to all supporters who took part in today’s Tifo.

Fabric for surfer - £306
Plastic for banners - £165
Tape - £195
Spray paint - £330
Flag poles - £400
Flags - £620
Delivery fees - £300

Total - £2,316

If you would like to contribute towards future displays, please donate to our GoFundMe or PayPal accounts.

GoFundMe: gofundme.com/f/easter-road-…

PayPal: paypal.com/paypalme/Ultra…

Was the papal flag or flag of the Vatican over and above or included in the flag costs.
Totally detracted any goodwill they had coming.
on a weekly basis they keep embarrassing my club

[Frazerbob]

Was the papal flag or flag of the Vatican over and above or included in the flag costs.
Totally detracted any goodwill they had coming.
on a weekly basis they keep embarrassing my club

Seen the Vatican flag at few games recently. Embarrassing, as you say.

[lyonhibs]

Seen the Vatican flag at few games recently. Embarrassing, as you say.

A VATICAN flag?!?!? Dearie me, I'm not sure even the Green Brigade are that cringe/desperate for attention. Stand to be correct obviously.

[HendoDelivered]

Tifo was class today. Nice one B7

[gorgie greens]

A VATICAN flag?!?!? Dearie me, I'm not sure even the Green Brigade are that cringe/desperate for attention. Stand to be correct obviously.

Never noticed it until my son asked me why what Hibs association is with the Vatican, I honestly couldn't answer him .
Absolute roasters and go down in my estimation by the game

[gordie18]

Tifo was class today. Nice one B7


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[hibee]

I didn’t see the Tifo as I sit above them but why do the guys who bring the banner up to the top tier need to wear full face masks?

One was asked to remove it three times by a steward so I’m assuming they are banned but he just pushed past him each time and ignored him, very odd behaviour.

[Carheenlea]

Enjoyed the display, and the bit of comedy with one half of banner upside down and the struggle to get it round right way before realising they had to swap sides or it was never going to work! All looked good in the end.

The Vatican flag I didn’t notice, but I have to admit that it’s not something I can say is particularly troublesome or offensive. Not something to be getting too bothered about for me anyway.

[Bostonhibby]

Vatican flag, jesus, wtf has that got to do with Hibs.

I'm guessing the balaclavas is still something to do with Crimewatch.

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[Viva_Palmeiras]

Vatican flag, jesus, wtf has that got to do with Hibs.

I'm guessing the balaclavas is still something to do with Crimewatch.

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Balaclavas and all-black is a protest against the “Get yourself seen” road-crossing campaign.

[The Harp Awakes]

Brilliant, non-stop backing for the team today. Well done guys.

[Billy Bunter 07]

Turned the banner back i see

Yep, cause we lost last week. Was staying upside down until then for good luck.

[Billy Bunter 07]

Brilliant, non-stop backing for the team today. Well done guys.
:agree::agree:

[Billy Bunter 07]

Vatican flag, jesus, wtf has that got to do with Hibs.

I'm guessing the balaclavas is still something to do with Crimewatch.

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Just wee laddies playing at being ultras copying other wee laddies playing at being ultras, they all seem to have a good time, put money into supporting the club home and away and back the team. We were all young once, some would do well to remember that, it's hardly offending anyone bar the easily offended.

[FilipinoHibs]

You don't have to be Einstein to work out Hibernians connection to the Vatican. Oh by the way that last pope was great.

[danhibees1875]

Was a bit disappointing to see the banner the right way up, would have liked that tradition to stay... tifo looked quality though!

Do they get re-used? I'm not aware of clubs rolling out the same ones repeatedly but also would seem weird if it's just binned.

[Since452]

They are excellent at times. Putting them front and center in the FF stand this seaon was a great thing.

[The Modfather]

You don't have to be Einstein to work out Hibernians connection to the Vatican. Oh by the way that last pope was great.

Did we play the Vatican in a friendly? The connection is no more relevant in 2025 than taking a flag with Mecca on it or a Scientology flag.

[CapitalGreen]

Did we play the Vatican in a friendly? The connection is no more relevant in 2025 than taking a flag with Mecca on it or a Scientology flag.

Which people are more than welcome to bring if they want. Why do people care so much about flags?

[hibsbollah]

Which people are more than welcome to bring if they want. Why do people care so much about flags?

I want to see this Scientology flag.

[The Modfather]

Which people are more than welcome to bring if they want. Why do people care so much about flags?

Certain groups only ever seem to bring a limited subset of flags that represent the broad church that is Hibs. I find it a bit sad more than anything, but those said groups are usually just pushing their own agenda than a celebration of anything IMO.

[The Modfather]

I want to see this Scientology flag.

I took it with me on a recent trip to the Vatican. A green and write Scientology flag with John McGinn on it, who we all worship in Scientology as our god. Will try and bring it for the Rangers game.

[Billy Bunter 07]

Certain groups only ever seem to bring a limited subset of flags that represent the broad church that is Hibs. I find it a bit sad more than anything, but those said groups are usually just pushing their own agenda than a celebration of anything IMO.

So you don't like the "certain groups" and using anything to have a go at them. Could have just said that.:wink:

[Carheenlea]

Was a bit disappointing to see the banner the right way up, would have liked that tradition to stay... tifo looked quality though!

Do they get re-used? I'm not aware of clubs rolling out the same ones repeatedly but also would seem weird if it's just binned.

I saw one guy who looked far too old to be pleased with a small plastic flag sticking out his club shop bag walking up Easter Road afterwards.

I’m assuming there was maybe a grandchild waiting at home to be given a souvenir from the day to play with!

[marinello59]

Which people are more than welcome to bring if they want. Why do people care so much about flags?

Aye, as long as they aren’t targeting others for abuse then people can take what they want.

[Pretty Boy]

I thought they were excellent again yesterday.

I do find it odd that people are always moaning that 'they never sing any of the auld songs it's aw tik tok pish nowadays' then they roll out every verse of GGTTH every week and hardly anyone joins in😅 In fairness the effort near the end got a bit more traction.

[hibsbollah]

I thought they were excellent again yesterday.

I do find it odd that people are always moaning that 'they never sing any of the auld songs it's aw tik tok pish nowadays' then they roll out every verse of GGTTH every week and hardly anyone joins in😅 In fairness the effort near the end got a bit more traction.

From my vantage point i thought the East sounded loud as well. I know choreography is what its all about but there was a real old fashioned response to what was going on on the pitch feel to yesterday. A big throaty roar when the clock hit 80 minutes and we understood the importance of getting the 3 points. Honestly felt great and like we all played our part.

[Bostonhibby]

Balaclavas and all-black is a protest against the “Get yourself seen” road-crossing campaign.You might be onto something here, maybe replacing their "leader" with a lollipop lady might bring a bit of much needed order to proceedings?

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[marinello59]

From my vantage point i thought the East sounded loud as well. I know choreography is what its all about but there was a real old fashioned response to what was going on on the pitch feel to yesterday. A big throaty roar when the clock hit 80 minutes and we understood the importance of getting the 3 points. Honestly felt great and like we all played our part.

The old choir in the East sounded good from where I sit as well. It was a good mix yesterday of the rehearsed and the reaction to events. Loved it.

[Hibs Go Bragh]

I swear I heard an ever so brief Hibees clap clap clap from the west upper yesterday. Proper old school chant!

[Bostonhibby]

Just wee laddies playing at being ultras copying other wee laddies playing at being ultras, they all seem to have a good time, put money into supporting the club home and away and back the team. We were all young once, some would do well to remember that, it's hardly offending anyone bar the easily offended.

And the folk who don't get to sit in the seats they've paid for? for example.

None of it offends or bothers me personally, I'm pretty thick skinned and doubt I'd be moved from my seat, just feel for the folk who seem to regularly get inconvenienced or worse by this wee gang.

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[marinello59]

I swear I heard an ever so brief Hibees clap clap clap from the west upper yesterday. Proper old school chant!

I’ll be wearing a suit, flat cap and taking a wooden rattle for the Rangers game. :greengrin

[Bishop Hibee]

The display was excellent.

[Dashing Bob S]

Well done to them. A fabulous display.

[JimBHibees]

Any pics of tifo sit in ff upper

[EGL2000]

Brilliant display well done all. Clearly a lot of effort went into that so fair play!

[blackpoolhibs]

I’ll be wearing a suit, flat cap and taking a wooden rattle for the Rangers game. :greengrin

Normal gear then? :wink:

[marinello59]

Normal gear then? :wink:

Why change when I look that good? :greengrin

[Crab apple]

Thought the banner was great.
Who were the group dressed as chickens in the south stand. The boy with KFC on the front of his outfit was enjoying winding up the United fans after our first goal.

[WeAreHibs]

Any pics of tifo sit in ff upper

No pictures but you'll see it in the vlog

https://youtu.be/NPcn6laP_40?si=4B4w4tnRQ3WcKa5P

[DH1875]

Which people are more than welcome to bring if they want. Why do people care so much about flags?

What about a St George cross or a Union Jack (red white and blue not the green and black one).
I really couldn't give a toss about flags. Can't say I noticed the Vatican flag. But then, couldn't even tell you what it looks like.

[Billy Bunter 07]

And the folk who don't get to sit in the seats they've paid for? for example.

None of it offends or bothers me personally, I'm pretty thick skinned and doubt I'd be moved from my seat, just feel for the folk who seem to regularly get inconvenienced or worse by this wee gang.

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You've never sat in a seat not designated for yourself? It's hardly crime of the century.

It seems to bother you personally in all honesty, but fair enough. Just remember you were young yourself once.

[Bostonhibby]

You've never sat in a seat not designated for yourself? It's hardly crime of the century.

It seems to bother you personally in all honesty, but fair enough. Just remember you were young yourself once.I'm intrigued how you know how I feel personally, I doubt you understand how fans who go to away games have been affected when they, their children or friends are bundled out their seats by entitled fellow fans.
It's mentioned by people who were actually affected by it on this very site.
When I go to Hibs games I tend to let fellow fans sit in the seats they've chosen and paid for, but maybe that's just me.

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[JimBHibees]

Thought the banner was great.
Who were the group dressed as chickens in the south stand. The boy with KFC on the front of his outfit was enjoying winding up the United fans after our first goal.

Guys on a stag trip from down south

[JimBHibees]

I'm intrigued how you know how I feel personally, I doubt you understand how fans who go to away games have been affected when they, their children or friends are bundled out their seats by entitled fellow fans.
It's mentioned by people who were actually affected by it on this very site.
When I go to Hibs games I tend to let fellow fans sit in the seats they've chosen and paid for, but maybe that's just me.

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Totally agree a complete pain in the arse and ignorant

[JimBHibees]

No pictures but you'll see it in the vlog

https://youtu.be/NPcn6laP_40?si=4B4w4tnRQ3WcKa5P

Cheers looked good

[Billy Bunter 07]

I'm intrigued how you know how I feel personally, I doubt you understand how fans who go to away games have been affected when they, their children or friends are bundled out their seats by entitled fellow fans.
It's mentioned by people who were actually affected by it on this very site.
When I go to Hibs games I tend to let fellow fans sit in the seats they've chosen and paid for, but maybe that's just me.

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Can only take from what you've posted but you seem to have a personal gripe with a group of laddies having fun at the football.

How would you know to doubt I would understand? I go to plenty away games and no really bothered where I sit at the best of time, especially being in my 40s now and been home and away since the times of not getting a ticket or a seat and just sitting where you want.

There you go with "bullied" but you've nothing personal against them you're just playing the concerned citizen for others? Aye sound.

Did anyone get hurt or did it ruin the day for anyone that's had to different seat at a football match? I would get it if it was on a plane or even a train (that wouldnt bother me either), but getting offended for others but you don't have anything against the group bar that and flags or what they wear? Lol.

[Billy Bunter 07]

Totally agree a complete pain in the arse and ignorant

That's what teenagers are like at the best of times, especially ones that go to football. Getting auld is tougher for some than others I guess.

[JimBHibees]

That's what teenagers are like at the best of times, especially ones that go to football. Getting auld is tougher for some than others I guess.

Just general manners rather than anything to do with age. Yesterday the tifo and support they provided was excellent

[Bostonhibby]

Can only take from what you've posted but you seem to have a personal gripe with a group of laddies having fun at the football.

How would you know to doubt I would understand? I go to plenty away games and no really bothered where I sit at the best of time, especially being in my 40s now and been home and away since the times of not getting a ticket or a seat and just sitting where you want.

There you go with "bullied" but you've nothing personal against them you're just playing the concerned citizen for others? Aye sound.

Did anyone get hurt or did it ruin the day for anyone that's had to different seat at a football match? I would get it if it was on a plane or even a train (that wouldnt bother me either), but getting offended for others but you don't have anything against the group bar that and flags or what they wear? Lol.

I think forcing people out their seats by your presence and/or weight of numbers when they don't necessarily want to go comfortably fits with bullying, you used the bullied term not me, but if you have a more palatable term for it, crack on.


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[Billy Bunter 07]

Just general manners rather than anything to do with age

Lots of teenagers out on the piss in groups of their friends attending the football or otherwise don't generally have much manners.

[gbhibby]

Vatican flag, jesus, wtf has that got to do with Hibs.

I'm guessing the balaclavas is still something to do with Crimewatch.

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David Gray for Pope?🤔

[Billy Bunter 07]

I think forcing people out their seats by your presence and/or weight of numbers when they don't necessarily want to go comfortably fits with bullying but if you have a more palatable term for it, crack on.


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You have seen block seven members go up to someone in their seat and force them out of it aye?

[JimBHibees]

Lots of teenagers out on the piss in groups of their friends attending the football or otherwise don't generally have much manners.

Seen and been part of loads of groups of fans out on the piss and having a great time at the football without the need to nick someone’s seat at a game. Not sure why you are trying to give people that do that a free pass

[Bostonhibby]

You have seen block seven members go up to someone in their seat and force them out of it aye?I'm guessing you're telling us it's not true, despite hibs fans on here posting their experiences.

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[Billy Bunter 07]

Seen and been part of loads of groups of fans out on the piss and having a great time at the football without the need to nick someone’s seat at a game. Not sure why you are trying to give people that do that a free pass

And I've seen loads of fans over the years, especially younger fans out on the piss sit in big groups not really considering others around them. It's never been the highest offence of the year. Perhaps it's down to people moaning who when younger didn't go to games with their mates when they had tickets and designated seats like myself so just sat where you want depending on when you get into the ground.

Fact of the matter the younger generation of block seven and others are the future support of the club, they will grow up, have families and hopefully still support the club as much as they can and put money into the club just as they are doing now. They are no different to many others across the whole of the UK/Europe or much different to many other groups of younger Hibs fans from the past. They are hardly smashing up places we visit or robbing old grannies.

[Billy Bunter 07]

I'm guessing you're telling us it's not true, despite hibs fans on here posting their experiences.

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I'm asking if you have seen it, as you posted they have been forcing people out of their seats? pretty simple question I thought.

I can't guess either way, it could have happened, it could not have happened. I've never seen it or ever heard anyone at a match complain someone has told them to move from their seat.

[Hibbyradge]

Balaclavas and all-black is a protest against the “Get yourself seen” road-crossing campaign.

:hilarious

[Bostonhibby]

I'm asking if you have seen it, as you posted they have been forcing people out of their seats? pretty simple question I thought.I've been in ER early enough to see the bloc arriving and moving into areas where others are already sitting, yes, I've also formed a view that's it's likely to have happened unless people posting on here also have a reason to be part of a conspiracy and make up that they've been affected to.

Be nice to think it's improving, I also recognise quite a bit of what you have posted in your response to the other above to be right and reasonable.



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[SHODAN]

You have seen block seven members go up to someone in their seat and force them out of it aye?

I saw them trying to do it at Parkhead in the QF before the stewards got rid of them.

You're fighting a losing battle if you think challenging what is already established evidence from multiple away fans is going to make people forget what they've seen with their own eyes. Tell your fellow ultras to stop doing it and we'll stop saying it. You can't have it both ways.

[Billy Bunter 07]

I've been in ER early enough to see the bloc arriving and moving into areas where others are already sitting, yes, I've also formed a view that's it's likely to have happened unless people posting on here also have a reason to be part of a conspiracy and make up that they've been affected to.

Be nice to think it's improving, I also recognise quite a bit of what you have posted in your response to the other above to be right and reasonable.



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Fair do's mate. I do get how you mean btw, and I'm not thrilled with it either, I just feel more leniency towards our fellow supporters would be good or if not leniency just looking to have a go at them for any old reason, not saying that's yourself btw, but that has also happened on here.:aok:

[Bostonhibby]

Fair do's mate. I do get how you mean btw, and I'm not thrilled with it either, I just feel more leniency towards our fellow supporters would be good or if not leniency just looking to have a go at them for any old reason, not saying that's yourself btw, but that has also happened on here.:aok:[emoji106] All Hibbies here, just sometimes respect is missing and sometimes saying or doing nothing doesn't lead to an improvement.

Now, if its huns..........

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[Billy Bunter 07]

I saw them trying to do it at Parkhead in the QF before the stewards got rid of them.

You're fighting a losing battle if you think challenging what is already established evidence from multiple away fans is going to make people forget what they've seen with their own eyes. Tell your fellow ultras to stop doing it and we'll stop saying it. You can't have it both ways.

Fair enough, they tried and failed.

Fellow ultra? You would have already read that I'm in my 40s and nowhere near their group. I'm just not a grinch and want to actively encourage support not try and get them to not go, that wouldn't be in the best interest of the team or the club despite a few of the older generation bumping their gums on here.

Can I ask you a question, do you not think it's quite upsetting/bordering on bullying when "packs" of established posters or we could call them a group call others names like yams or hearts fans or you now saying im in the ultras when people are new to here? I would say that's pretty intimidating at times, probably a bit worse imo than walking into a football away stand and finding a spotty wee laddie and his pals sitting where I've been designated but maybe that's just me.:aok:

[Billy Bunter 07]

[emoji106] All Hibbies here, just sometimes respect is missing and sometimes saying or doing nothing doesn't lead to an improvement.

Now, if its huns..........

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Nah I get how you mean mate. As for huns, time to hopefully watch them get smashed. Peace.:aok:

[Bostonhibby]

Nah I get how you mean mate. As for huns, time to hopefully watch them get smashed. Peace.:aok:[emoji106]

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[Northernhibee]

You have seen block seven members go up to someone in their seat and force them out of it aye?

Twice been on the wrong end of it.

[Billy Bunter 07]

Twice been on the wrong end of it.

Sorry to hear that. Did you move when they told you to get out your seat out of interest?

[LewysGot2]

I swear I heard an ever so brief Hibees clap clap clap from the west upper yesterday. Proper old school chant!

True story. Started by someone old enough to have been in the old wooden West upper in the past 👏

[hibsbollah]

Twice been on the wrong end of it.

You had snuck into the dugout both times to be fair.

[LewysGot2]

I saw them trying to do it at Parkhead in the QF before the stewards got rid of them.

You're fighting a losing battle if you think challenging what is already established evidence from multiple away fans is going to make people forget what they've seen with their own eyes. Tell your fellow ultras to stop doing it and we'll stop saying it. You can't have it both ways.

That's the first ground the stewards have intervened and weren't backing down. Them marching down from their allocated space en masse, like the Star Wars stormtroopers March and trying to oust the fans behind the goals at the front- only for too many folk including the stewards telling them to bolt was entertaining in itself. 🤭

[Hibrandenburg]

Brilliant display well done all. Clearly a lot of effort went into that so fair play!

Yep, fair play to them, if only they could build Autobahns and get the trains to run on time.

[Northernhibee]

You had snuck into the dugout both times to be fair.

Got a couple of games up front under Maloney.

[CapitalGreen]

What about a St George cross or a Union Jack (red white and blue not the green and black one).
I really couldn't give a toss about flags. Can't say I noticed the Vatican flag. But then, couldn't even tell you what it looks like.

Absolutely fine. As m59 says, if they aren’t targeting anyone for abuse then what’s the problem, they are just flags.

I think it’s sad that some would be uncomfortable seeing a St George’s cross in honour of an English player given how many English players have contributed to the recent successes of our clubs. Fans lapped up seeing Benji and Zemamma celebrating with their national flags in 2007 but would baulk at the idea of Hogg and Jones doing the same.

[SHODAN]

Fair enough, they tried and failed.

Fellow ultra? You would have already read that I'm in my 40s and nowhere near their group. I'm just not a grinch and want to actively encourage support not try and get them to not go, that wouldn't be in the best interest of the team or the club despite a few of the older generation bumping their gums on here.

Can I ask you a question, do you not think it's quite upsetting/bordering on bullying when "packs" of established posters or we could call them a group call others names like yams or hearts fans or you now saying im in the ultras when people are new to here? I would say that's pretty intimidating at times, probably a bit worse imo than walking into a football away stand and finding a spotty wee laddie and his pals sitting where I've been designated but maybe that's just me.:aok:

I assumed you were an ultra because you're the first person I've seen in this thread questioning the truth of something which has been verified by multiple eyewitness accounts to regularly occur. I assumed it was a bad faith argument; if I'm wrong then I apologise.

Labeling you an ultra wasn't meant as an insult, regardless of my feelings on them they're part of the support but need major reform. I'm on mobile and can't see your post count so that didn't factor into it at all. I also think the Hearts fan labelling on here is cringe af.

[Northernhibee]

Sorry to hear that. Did you move when they told you to get out your seat out of interest?

Didn’t really get an option. Dozens of coked up and drunk people swarmed two or three deep into each row, standing on seats in rows ahead and so.

[Billy Bunter 07]

I think forcing people out their seats by your presence and/or weight of numbers when they don't necessarily want to go comfortably fits with bullying, you used the bullied term not me, but if you have a more palatable term for it, crack on.


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You have seen block seven members go up to someone in their seat and force them out of it aye?


Twice been on the wrong end of it.

https://www.hibs.net/images/hibsnet/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Billy Bunter 07 https://www.hibs.net/images/hibsnet/buttons/viewpost-right.png (https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?p=7951407#post7951407)
Sorry to hear that. Did you move when they told you to get out your seat out of interest?


Didn’t really get an option. Dozens of coked up and drunk people swarmed two or three deep into each row, standing on seats in rows ahead and so.

So to clarify, nobody came up to you and forced you out of your seat then.

[The Modfather]

Got a couple of games up front under Maloney.

Are you Chris Mueller?

[Since452]

Are they not all about 13/14 years old? Bit young to be smashing coke.

[Northernhibee]

https://www.hibs.net/images/hibsnet/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Billy Bunter 07 https://www.hibs.net/images/hibsnet/buttons/viewpost-right.png (https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?p=7951407#post7951407)
Sorry to hear that. Did you move when they told you to get out your seat out of interest?



So to clarify, nobody came up to you and forced you out of your seat then.

I go to football to watch a game of football in the seat I paid for, not to be hassled by coked up neds, share the tiny space each fan is given with someone else, or to stare at their backs.

It must only take the tiniest modicum of intelligence to understand that.

[McD]

Fair enough, they tried and failed.

Fellow ultra? You would have already read that I'm in my 40s and nowhere near their group. I'm just not a grinch and want to actively encourage support not try and get them to not go, that wouldn't be in the best interest of the team or the club despite a few of the older generation bumping their gums on here.

Can I ask you a question, do you not think it's quite upsetting/bordering on bullying when "packs" of established posters or we could call them a group call others names like yams or hearts fans or you now saying im in the ultras when people are new to here? I would say that's pretty intimidating at times, probably a bit worse imo than walking into a football away stand and finding a spotty wee laddie and his pals sitting where I've been designated but maybe that's just me.:aok:


There are a number of posters on here who have shared (going back a few years now) that B7 members have approached them already in their seats and threatened/intimidated them to get them to move, including posters with young children there. There’s also posters who have described their long term away match attending relatives have stopped going to away matches because of the behaviour of B7 members.


you seem think that behaviour should just be swept under the carpet based on the young being young, yet you think people on here calling it out is intimidating and unacceptable? :confused: Physical threats aren’t as bad as someone on an internet forum saying the threats are poor behaviour, aye ok :rolleyes:

[DH1875]

Will see what these "wee boys" do when we play in Europe next season and we come up against some real ultras.
See that an Atlanta ultra died after being stabbed in a fight with Inter.

[Billy Bunter 07]

You have seen block seven members go up to someone in their seat and force them out of it aye?


Twice been on the wrong end of it.


]Sorry to hear that.[/B] Did you move when they told you to get out your seat out of interest?


There are a number of posters on here who have shared (going back a few years now) that B7 members have approached them already in their seats and threatened/intimidated them to get them to move, including posters with young children there. There’s also posters who have described their long term away match attending relatives have stopped going to away matches because of the behaviour of B7 members.


you seem think that behaviour should just be swept under the carpet based on the young being young, yet you think people on here calling it out is intimidating and unacceptable? :confused: Physical threats aren’t as bad as someone on an internet forum saying the threats are poor behaviour, aye ok :rolleyes:

I do? Could have fooled me.

I haven't seen it, have you seen it? Or just a number of posters on here that you have read? Not that it hasn't happened, it's just the person I replied to then went on to say that he didn't get approached to move from his seat after all.

I think getting told I'm an ultra (a mistake by the poster that said so and that's totally fine) is lazy because I don't jump on the bandwaggon of the big bad spotty teens following the club - I think it's intimidating and bullying people ganging up and calling newer members on here hearts fans because they arent long established or share the same views.

Stop making stuff up if you are going to add to the debate would be my advice. :aok:

[Billy Bunter 07]

I assumed you were an ultra because you're the first person I've seen in this thread questioning the truth of something which has been verified by multiple eyewitness accounts to regularly occur. I assumed it was a bad faith argument; if I'm wrong then I apologise.

Labeling you an ultra wasn't meant as an insult, regardless of my feelings on them they're part of the support but need major reform. I'm on mobile and can't see your post count so that didn't factor into it at all. I also think the Hearts fan labelling on here is cringe af.

That's cool mate. It's all good.

[CapitalGreen]

Will see what these "wee boys" do when we play in Europe next season and we come up against some real ultras.
See that an Atlanta ultra died after being stabbed in a fight with Inter.

The majority of them are school children so unlikely to be travelling abroad midweek. They’ll probably put on some decent tifos/displays for the games at Easter Road though.

[Billy Bunter 07]

I go to football to watch a game of football in the seat I paid for, not to be hassled by coked up neds, share the tiny space each fan is given with someone else, or to stare at their backs.

It must only take the tiniest modicum of intelligence to understand that.

That's all and well. You claimed twice to be intimidated and told to move out your seat that you had a ticket for. You lied to try and prove some point about the big bad block seven guys. Cheers.

[Billy Bunter 07]

Will see what these "wee boys" do when we play in Europe next season and we come up against some real ultras.
See that an Atlanta ultra died after being stabbed in a fight with Inter.


Aye, that would be a laugh eh? :confused:

[DH1875]

The majority of them are school children so unlikely to be travelling abroad midweek.

I'm talking about when the grown up ultras come to Edinburgh, which they will.

[DH1875]

Aye, that would be a laugh eh? :confused:

Not really, no.

[Billy Bunter 07]

Not really, no.

You sounded pretty gleeful at the prospect of these "wee boys" facing proper established adult ultras in Europe. Apologies if I picked you up incorrectly.

[CapitalGreen]

I'm talking about when the grown up ultras come to Edinburgh, which they will.

I must have missed all the reports of trouble caused by ultras travelling to Edinburgh for games against Hearts these last few years.

[hibsbollah]

I must have missed all the reports of trouble caused by ultras travelling to Edinburgh for games against Hearts these last few years.

A quick glance at last season’s conference league group stages suggests there probably wont be many of Europe’s hardest hooligans descending on Edinburgh. Petrocub posse notwithstanding.

[Carheenlea]

I'm talking about when the grown up ultras come to Edinburgh, which they will.

It’s maybe because we are used to a younger person being attracted to and embracing the Ultras scene in Scotland, but the idea of “grown up” ultras sounds preposterously embarrassing.

[SteveHFC]

Got a couple of games up front under Maloney.

Hiya James Scott

[McD]

I do? Could have fooled me.

I haven't seen it, have you seen it? Or just a number of posters on here that you have read? Not that it hasn't happened, it's just the person I replied to then went on to say that he didn't get approached to move from his seat after all.

I think getting told I'm an ultra (a mistake by the poster that said so and that's totally fine) is lazy because I don't jump on the bandwaggon of the big bad spotty teens following the club - I think it's intimidating and bullying people ganging up and calling newer members on here hearts fans because they arent long established or share the same views.

Stop making stuff up if you are going to add to the debate would be my advice. :aok:



Not sure if your last point is aimed at me - I’ve made nothing up, I’ve read multiple people state they were threatened and told to move, including their child in some cases, by B7 members. There are others who have relatives who have stopped going to away matches because of that behaviour, people who’ve long followed the team. It’s just as lazy to dismiss those people and their experiences because you want to let these laddies act the way they do, or because you don’t want to believe it.


Do you think reading some words on an anonymous forum is more or less intimidating than a group of people threatening you and your child to move out of your seat?

[Swedish hibee]

Sir David Gray.
Welcome done everyone involved.
Looked fantastic.

[Callyballybe]

Yeah, everything else aside I thought the tifo looked brilliant. Great job

[Billy Bunter 07]

Not sure if your last point is aimed at me - I’ve made nothing up, I’ve read multiple people state they were threatened and told to move, including their child in some cases, by B7 members. There are others who have relatives who have stopped going to away matches because of that behaviour, people who’ve long followed the team. It’s just as lazy to dismiss those people and their experiences because you want to let these laddies act the way they do, or because you don’t want to believe it.


Do you think reading some words on an anonymous forum is more or less intimidating than a group of people threatening you and your child to move out of your seat?

It wasn't.

I've not read them as pretty new, so that's why I asked.

I don't think it's more intimidating, no. But I've seen they words on the anonymous forum and it's still bullying imo. I have not seen a group of people threatening children to move seat and neither have you by the sound of it. The only example that's been discussed of someone saying they have in the past couple of days has in fact not at all.

[Glory Lurker]

It wasn't.

I've not read them as pretty new, so that's why I asked.

I don't think it's more intimidating, no. But I've seen they words on the anonymous forum and it's still bullying imo. I have not seen a group of people threatening children to move seat and neither have you by the sound of it. The only example that's been discussed of someone saying they have in the past couple of days has in fact not at all.

Was going back two or three years, right enough, but group I was in at Ross County got bounced out of our seats by a wave of wild-eyed ultras. And, yes, bairn in our group was crying. I've made a point since to book tickets away from where B7 are. Initially it was guessing where they might be. Fortunately now the club give us a warning.

Edit: and we were in our seats before B7 arrived. A bit like the semi at Parkhead, a couple of the crew appeared in the area where we were about 15 mins before KO to scope it out before the gang came in.

[Hibs Go Bragh]

True story. Started by someone old enough to have been in the old wooden West upper in the past 👏

Long may it continue! If that one is coming back maybe we could also get “Hibernian clapclap clapclap” back as that one seemed to disappear as well.

[matty_f]

According to their tweet, the whole tifo cost £2316:

Thank you to all supporters who took part in today’s Tifo.

Fabric for surfer - £306
Plastic for banners - £165
Tape - £195
Spray paint - £330
Flag poles - £400
Flags - £620
Delivery fees - £300

Total - £2,316

If you would like to contribute towards future displays, please donate to our GoFundMe or PayPal accounts.

GoFundMe: gofundme.com/f/easter-road-…

PayPal: paypal.com/paypalme/Ultra…
Some of the spray paint ended up as graffiti - I thought their tifo was terrific and, inside the stadium they played their part in a great atmosphere at the game.

As I've said before, though - they go straight on to social media and post images of vandalism, not for the first time, at the same time as asking people to fund it. It's two steps forward and one step back every time they do things like this.

There's loads of things that you can give Block Seven credit for, and they should get that credit. They're in a position where they could be an overwhelmingly positive force for good at the club, but for as long as they indulge in all the other stuff covered in this thread and others, the credit will always be caveated with a "but...".

I really want to be a big advocate for Block Seven, we will share the good things on social media from the podcast accounts but it's really difficult to get properly behind them while that "but" exists.

[Northernhibee]

That's all and well. You claimed twice to be intimidated and told to move out your seat that you had a ticket for. You lied to try and prove some point about the big bad block seven guys. Cheers.

What would have been your suggestion for that situation?

“Excuse me, dozens of people off their heads, I can’t help but notice you’re in all of our seats we were sat in seconds ago. We now can’t see and are pinned in. Would you carefully move moving?”

Do you think that’d work? Do you not think some of us tried and failed or were met by rudeness in return? Or do you think we should have stayed and had the view that was the grand total of a bunch of peoples backs who were stood on the chairs in front?

Just checking as thinking that all of that isn’t being forced out of your seat is a little baffling.

[tamig]

You have seen block seven members go up to someone in their seat and force them out of it aye?

Its been reported at just about every away game this season. Open your eyes man. The behaviour has been unacceptable on multiple occasions throughout the season. But I guess we were all young once which gave us a free licence to act like entitled erseholes.

[Keith_M]

Are they not all about 13/14 years old? Bit young to be smashing coke.


No, they're definitely not.

[andrew70]

Its been reported at just about every away game this season. Open your eyes man. The behaviour has been unacceptable on multiple occasions throughout the season. But I guess we were all young once which gave us a free licence to act like entitled erseholes.

As much as I don’t like them that just hasn’t happened for months now. Start of the season I agree however quickly rectified by the group and the club however annoying it was.

It’s a societal issue in the main and not one just linked to our section but to the majority.

If they’d stick to displays and singing they’d get all our support.