Club Statement

[Brianmcd]

Backing current setup - thoughts?

[coldingham hibs]

Pathetic

[AugustaHibs]

Most pathetic ‘statement’ I’ve ever read from hibs.

[snedzuk]

Is that the dreaded vote of confidence.

[HendoDelivered]

Relegation.

[Just Alf]

Is that the dreaded vote of confidence.Yup... at least BK are mentioned

[SteveHFC]

They can **** off with that statement. Taking the piss out of the support.

[Hiber-nation]

It's all fine, Hearts and St Johnstone are pish as well.

[GloryGlory]

Here it is in all its glory:

"We are disappointed with the poor start to our current season like all Hibernian FC supporters.

Following the weekend’s result, we have held discussions as a group addressing how we move forward.

We continue to work tirelessly in our quest to improve our performance and achieve the results we need on the pitch.

Through this challenging time, we support our Head Coach David Gray and his management team. All departments are under pressure to deliver.

We recognise that this is a hard time for our supporters, and we know we can do better. Together, with Black Knight Football, we are working hard to make that happen."

Utterly pathetic!

[ALF TUPPER]

A vote of confidence in ..... themselves.

So very Hibs. 🤣

[Mcbizz1998]

Yeah, that tells us and changes nothing. Pointless drivel.

[Paulie Walnuts]

****ing idiots.

[Bridge hibs]

Otherwise we will just plod along with the current incumbents and you will just have to suck it up you ****ing dafties, oh and the half season tickets are on sale now ****ing pony up !

[MartinfaePorty]

That's a poor statement. Given they've had 2 days to draft something, that actually says nothing and encourages more questions.

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[1875M]

Losers on and off the park. Pathetic.

[blackpoolhibs]

They had a chance to act quickly and give the new man a chance, but we will now kick the can further down the road and when Gray is sacked the new man will have no time or chance of getting us safe.

Jim Duffy again.:rolleyes:

[Tambo]

They had a chance to act quickly and give the new man a chance, but we will now kick the can further down the road and when Gray is sacked the new man will have no time or chance of getting us safe.

Jim Duffy again.:rolleyes:

Spot on.

[Unseen work]

Is that the dreaded vote of confidence.

Yep.

We’ll draw or lose to Dundee and then lose to Aberdeen.

He will then be sacked and we’ll look like even bigger idiots

[BH Hibs]

Waited until half six for that? GTF board.

[The Harp Awakes]

The first thing I took from that statement is that they are totally underestimating the extent of the **** we are in.

Very, very worrying. They just do not get it. They have repeatedly failed and the deterioration continues.

Time for some fan action. They need ousted before it's too late.

[Liam6270]

Translation - due to the incompetence of our recruitment team and sacking of Ross, Johnson and Monty we simply have no more money to sack yet another useless fool. Please keep everything crossed and pray Mr Foley gives us millions to spend in January on more centre midfielders, it’s widely acknowledged that Gray isn’t up to the task but he’s staying put so deal with it. By the way check out the new pyjama range and Hibs beer, delightful

[we are hibs]

They actually think the support are buttoned up the back.


Let's throw in a wee mention of the black knights and hope that satisfied the fans. Honestly, we need these people out the club.

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[Lancs Harp]

Not exactly an Ibrox quality statement.

Says nothing.

[mcohibs]

‘We’re ***** and we know we are’ in statement form.

[skyehibee]

What a joke. Can’t wait for us to wait another 2 weeks play Dundee away get beat and then sack him. Utterly pointless delaying this, the board are so clueless.

[Bostonhibby]

We are disappointed but will carry on with everyone in place who has caused that disappointment.

All the various talking heads above Gray must be high fiving and congratulation themselves on getting this statement out and carrying on their excellent stewardship of the club.



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[blackpoolhibs]

Half season tickets are on sale if anyone is interested?

[JohnM1875]

Know folk will think I’m over reacting or taking the piss. But I’m actually fuming at that statement.

[mcohibs]

Absolutely embarrassing. If that was Hearts we’d be folding over. Who do they think they are? Get them out NOW.

[marinello59]

Half season tickets are on sale if anyone is interested?

Is there the option for us to sell the second half of ours back to the club?

[SHODAN]

This is the worst club statement I've ever seen.

[GloryGlory]

The first thing I took from that statement is that they are totally underestimating the extent of the **** we are in.

Very, very worrying. They just do not get it. They have repeatedly failed and the deterioration continues.

Time for some fan action. They need ousted before it's too late.

Me too. Not just the coaching team but the players are getting a free pass, too.

Well when I say "pass", none of them can actually "pass". :greengrin

[NC1875]

Said it at the weekend.

They have no intention of sacking him.

What a load of ***** honestly. We are being taken for mugs by these clowns.

[Callum_62]

I'm sure most folk on here would notice I tend to be a more "give the manager time, support the club" type of poster

Even for me that statement is absolutely baffling

It's devoid totally of detail for a start

We lose at Dundee, then what? Aberdeen at home? Then what?

Fact is we have zero style or substance on the park and gray has zero kudos to back up he's the man to fix it (as a head coach)

Out of all the managers we've had recently he's the one that should be getting sacked at this stage imo

I say that as someone who likes Gray and the way he talks. But things since he took charge are pretty much as bad as anyone feared

Makes zero sense to wait any longer

Even if we salvaged a draw last weekend it wouldn't have made a jot of difference to my thinking

The team under Gray are so predictable, static and generally amateur to be frank

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[Bostonhibby]

Half season tickets are on sale if anyone is interested?Can I have the first half of season 1972-73 please?

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[B.H.F.C]

Shocker of a statement.

There isn’t one bit of leadership in that club at this moment in time.

My only hope is that the bigger changes that have been rumoured are preventing any changes being made shorter term.

[SHODAN]

I think it is the vote of confidence. So hopefully they are looking for someone else?

[coldingham hibs]

They really can’t announce the full statement because it would probably be along the lines of Malky M will be assisting with the team until January & the Black Knights will throw some players in to avoid relegation.

[we are hibs]

They've literally put Gray in the exact same position they put Montgomery in. He knew, and Gray will now know that he's a dead man walking. It's embarrassing enough doing it once, they've now done it twice since in the space of 7 months.

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[Orchard_Hibs]

Might as well have added the predict Mckirdy will score 15 goals next season while they are at it.

[GreenGray]

It’s pretty astounding that they thought a statement like that would help with the fan’s anger.

“All departments are under pressure to deliver”

Were they not before?


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[Pretty Boy]

Absolutely incredible.

We have well and truly jumped the shark now and gone full blown laughing stock.

'Aye sorry lads we promise we'll try harder'.

[Trinity Hibee]

Flabbergasted that statement has been released but also that they think it will satisfy the support. Shocking shocking stuff

[FastEddieFelson]

From Hibs Observer:

"Black Knight duo Bill Foley and Ryan Caswell, who sit on the club's board, and Black Knight president Tim Bezbatchenko, were in unanimous agreement with the other directors that Gray should remain in post - with an understanding that things have to improve, or changes will need to be made.

As part of the club's efforts to support Gray and his coaching staff, they will continue to work closely with the Black Knights to make improvements."

[blackpoolhibs]

They would have been better saying nothing, all that's done is pour petrol on the fire.

Clueless.:faf:

[lyonhibs]

The first thing I took from that statement is that they are totally underestimating the extent of the **** we are in.

Very, very worrying. They just do not get it. They have repeatedly failed and the deterioration continues.

Time for some fan action. They need ousted before it's too late.

Yup, the lack of awareness of the gravity of the situation is disturbing.

"it's not been great, but we're going to keep throwing ***** at the wall with the same set of jesters and maybe something will stick. Stay tuned bozos"

Woeful statement. Only faint, very faint, glimmer of light is that maybe BK will be getting more involved/listened to now.

[GloryGlory]

From Hibs Observer:

"Black Knight duo Bill Foley and Ryan Caswell, who sit on the club's board, and Black Knight president Tim Bezbatchenko, were in unanimous agreement with the other directors that Gray should remain in post - with an understanding that things have to improve, or changes will need to be made.

As part of the club's efforts to support Gray and his coaching staff, they will continue to work closely with the Black Knights to make improvements."

It's hard to see what improvements can be made before the January window. The players aren't going to suddenly learn how to defend and attack and to see out games, and the coaching team aren't going to suddenly learn how to set the team up tactically and how to make effective use of substitutions.

[Unseen work]

From Hibs Observer:

"Black Knight duo Bill Foley and Ryan Caswell, who sit on the club's board, and Black Knight president Tim Bezbatchenko, were in unanimous agreement with the other directors that Gray should remain in post - with an understanding that things have to improve, or changes will need to be made.

As part of the club's efforts to support Gray and his coaching staff, they will continue to work closely with the Black Knights to make improvements."

The thought of these meetings just make me laugh

“Not good is it
Nah been rubbish
What do we need to do?
Win games I think
Yeah good shout. Bring in Gray and we’ll have a chat”

“Dave it’s not been good enough has it?
Nah I can turn it around, we’ll win games
Wow, you’ve identified the same problem we did. You’re the right man for the job”

Everyone shakes hands happy that they’re all in agreement and walk out the room smug

[southern hibby]

After the game on Saturday I walked around to the west and handed my season ticket in to the reception. I made it clear that the performances on the pitch is absolutely dog poo and I didn’t just blame the manager but more so the players.

I have, had enough and regret doing it but what’s on show that I couldn’t watch at leith links?

I genuinely think we are a poo show at the moment and something has to give.

GGTTH

[Alfred E Newman]

Half season tickets are on sale if anyone is interested?

I’ve got one already, I’ll do well to stick it out to the New Year.

[MelbourneHibees]

We are so supportive of the Management team that we are going to paint this target on their backs for the next few weeks.

[marinello59]

Nobody willing to put their name to that statement either. Mr £1000 a day man missing in action again.

[GloryGlory]

Yup, the lack of awareness of the gravity of the situation is disturbing.

"it's not been great, but we're going to keep throwing ***** at the wall with the same set of jesters and maybe something will stick. Stay tuned bozos"

Woeful statement. Only faint, very faint, glimmer of light is that maybe BK will be getting more involved/listened to now.

The mention of the BK group sounds more like getting another excuse ready.

[LaMotta]

They would have been better saying nothing, all that's done is pour petrol on the fire.

Clueless.:faf:

Exactly this. The comms output from the club has been so poorly judged since Kensell came in.

[itslegaltender]

To me its clear. They are gambling on doing enough now to beat the drop. Wholesale clearout in the summer AND there will be a Black Knight preferred manager lined up to come in.

[Mr Grieves]

They've really outdone themselves. That is the most pathetic, contemptible statement I've ever read.

[bingo70]

The thought of these meetings just make me laugh

“Not good is it
Nah been rubbish
What do we need to do?
Win games I think
Yeah good shout. Bring in Gray and we’ll have a chat”

“Dave it’s not been good enough has it?
Nah I can turn it around, we’ll win games
Wow, you’ve identified the same problem we did. You’re the right man for the job”

Everyone shakes hands happy that they’re all in agreement and walk out the room smug

“Has anyone thought about working hard to fix it or should we give that a go now?”

[Lago]

Well it's good to know we have stability at Hibs now and on an ongoing basis :confused:

[Cabbage-Patch]

Know folk will think I’m over reacting or taking the piss. But I’m actually fuming at that statement.

The whole fanbase are mate. I've personally never seen such
universal digust to a Hibs statement in a long long time. The whole "statement" isn't worth the paper its printed on. The board must think our fan base are thick! Written by some soulless un named suit in the shadows.

What happens after the international break when we scrape a nil nil with Dundee then get scudded off Aberdeen and then he gets the bullet? Weeks where we could have gotten a new manager in and had time to work with the squad. It's madness

[blackpoolhibs]

From Hibs Observer:

"Black Knight duo Bill Foley and Ryan Caswell, who sit on the club's board, and Black Knight president Tim Bezbatchenko, were in unanimous agreement with the other directors that Gray should remain in post - with an understanding that things have to improve, or changes will need to be made.

As part of the club's efforts to support Gray and his coaching staff, they will continue to work closely with the Black Knights to make improvements."

Of course they are, the man they never wanted with 1 league win this season and a defeat to Kelty now think he should remain.

[Heisenberg]

We are so supportive of the Management team that we are going to paint this target on their backs for the next few weeks.

That’s all it’s done. Don’t win soon and he’ll be gone, looking at the fixtures there’s no obvious game that I could see us winning.

[Smartie]

I mean, I'm still in support of Gray staying in position but the need for that statement just baffles me.

[Hibernian Verse]

The whole fanbase are mate. I've personally never seen such
universal digust to a Hibs statement in a long long time. The whole "statement" isn't worth the paper its printed on. The board must think our fan base are thick! Written by some soulless un named suit in the shadows.

What happens after the international break when we scrape a nil nil with Dundee then get scudded off Aberdeen and then he gets the bullet? Weeks where we could have gotten a new manager in and had time to work with the squad. It's madness

I honestly think they know no good manager will touch us.

[we are hibs]

"Spearheaded by owner Ian Gordon, the club's board was locked in talks over the weekend, with Black Knight FC - who hold a 25 per cent shareholding in the club and had their own thoughts on a management team after the departure of Nick Montgomery as head coach in May - playing a major role in discussions.

However, all parties have decided to give Gray, who was only appointed in June, more time to turn the ailing team's fortunes around - although he is “under pressure to deliver”."






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[greenpaper55]

Yup, the lack of awareness of the gravity of the situation is disturbing.

"it's not been great, but we're going to keep throwing ***** at the wall with the same set of jesters and maybe something will stick. Stay tuned bozos"

Woeful statement. Only faint, very faint, glimmer of light is that maybe BK will be getting more involved/listened to now.

Yes the mention of BK is a major development i think, maybe been promised resources in the new year regards players from Their other clubs. Sacking the manager at this point might satisfy the fans but how long would it take for a new manager to be in place-another month maybe ? Might be worth waiting until the new year for the new transfer window which is only five weeks away after the international break ?

[marinello59]

From Hibs Observer:

"Black Knight duo Bill Foley and Ryan Caswell, who sit on the club's board, and Black Knight president Tim Bezbatchenko, were in unanimous agreement with the other directors that Gray should remain in post - with an understanding that things have to improve, or changes will need to be made.

As part of the club's efforts to support Gray and his coaching staff, they will continue to work closely with the Black Knights to make improvements."

The club have fed that to their de-facto official mouthpiece

[Southernhibee]

First of all I felt months ago that David Gray was the wrong appointment at the wrong time. Stability was needed after Monty. I’ve read the statement which is total garbage. However, my reading of it is that Gray has probably two games, maybe three to save his job. It’s my reading of the statement and remember the BKs are part of the board so they were involved in this decision perhaps not the crappy statement. One silver lining is that any new manager will get the Jan transfer window which I would suspect will be significantly backed. The issue here is a case of timing. My preference is change now but clearly that’s not happening. I can’t see Gray getting anything out of this squad as he is totally one dimensional in his approach. I also think his lack of reaction during games suggest he is not one to ‘become animated’ like other managers. This must feed down to the players who perhaps subconsciously couldn’t care less as there’s no bollocking coming. Works with some players and not with others though but it mixes things up.

[Cameron1875]

"Following the weekend's result, we have held discussions as a group addressing how we move forward"

A monday morning team meeting with key staff that all companies do weekly then? Are they having a laugh? Firing up Zoom for 5 mins and a fine we'll whack out a club statement tonight before the admin fella logs off.

Joke.

[IWasThere2016]

Defeat at Dens and it will be over for SDG

[andrew_dundee]

Am I being too optimistic in noting that it doesn't rule out changes beyond the Manager? Could others be out on their arse?

[RossScott1991]

They haven’t even got the balls to put their name to it. Who’s we. Whose actually words are these. Cowards

[The Modfather]

This has even surpassed my worries that the rumoured changes wouldn’t come to pass. They genuinely would have been better saying nothing.

[Nicho87]

To be fair to the club here, if they’re not making any managerial changes

It can only be a positive for gray to show the players he isn’t going anywhere yet.

I’m not in favour of the board before you reply abuse, but this was a lose lose situation for the board.

If they’re keeping gray it’s about the most positive thing they can post

[Alfred E Newman]

Of course they are, the man they never wanted with 1 league win this season and a defeat to Kelty now think he should remain.

It may be that Foley and co are working behind the scenes on a replacement and have decided that they are as well leaving DG in position until any replacement is confirmed hopefully before the January window. Finding someone who can get anything out of this shower of duffers is a tall order though.

[Whelahan 1875]

Staggering to think they have had 48 hours to collectively come out with this vague pile of pish.

What a pathetic joke our board are and the whole club is now a shambles.

Surely the BK group have not signed off on this statement.

[Real Emerald]

Defeat at Dens and it will be over for SDG

If they’re publicly sticking with him now, one more defeat to Dundee won’t change anything. I’ve no idea what they’re hoping will change.

[BILLYHIBS]

The lunatics have taken over the Asylum

I fear the worst

[.Sean.]

Sleepwalking to relegation, it is an absolute certainty

I cannot put in to words how much I absolutely HATE Kensell, Gordon and McPherson

Just please please please **** OFF

How Hibs of us that we’ll be spending our 150th anniversary playing in the championship

[Jock O]

They haven’t even got the balls to put their name to it. Who’s we. Whose actually words are these. Cowards

Surely because its a collective statement, I appreciate the next 24 hours will be full of people trying hard to be the most anti board, but really is this relevant.

[Jones28]

Defeat at Dens and it will be over for SDG

Based on this statement I would put my mortgage on him not getting sacked after the Dundee game regardless of outcome.

[Unseen work]

The funny thing is these jokers will be thinking the can salvage the season in the January window by signing good players

Despite continuously signing players that are hopeless

[Onion]

The club HAD to release a Statement after this latest result. To have said nothing would have been unthinkable, even for Hibs.

However, as others have said it is a shocker, basically, "we think we'll be ok if we work a bit harder". It's shockingly bad.

IMO these failures at the top of our club are clueless. They have no idea how much trouble we are in, how to sort it, or how to get supporters on side. They are from another planet and need removed asap - every single one of them.

[Unseen work]

Based on this statement I would put my mortgage on him not getting sacked after the Dundee game regardless of outcome.

True, but He will when Aberdeen put 6 past us

[Billy McKirdy]

This is just a big massive F U to the fans

[Basildon Hibs]

If Gray had any deceny and respect, not only for himself but the club also, he would resign.

We are in serious trouble if he remains in post.

[Hibstrooper]

“…we have held discussions as a group to addressing how we move forward.”

Ok so how is that?

Because if it’s based on the next sentence: “we will continue to work tirelessly to improve our performance…”

Then essentially that reads as the plan is to just keep doing what we are doing and pray for the best

[HoboHarry]

This is just a big massive F U to the fans
It really isn't, it's just a genuine indication of how in over their heads they are and have no idea what to do next, unless they have a specific target in mind that is currently unavailable and are just plodding on meantime.

[bingo70]

Just asked Chat GPT to draft a statement apologising to the fans for a poor start to the season, opening line and even the structure to an extent looks remarkably similar to what we’ve just been served.

“Club Statement:


We know that this season has not started the way any of us had hoped. Our recent performances have fallen short of the standards we hold ourselves to and, most importantly, the standards you deserve. We understand the frustration and disappointment our results have caused, and we share in that disappointment deeply.

Please know that every person involved in this club — from the players and coaching staff to our support teams and management — is fully committed to turning things around. We are addressing the areas where we have fallen short and working tirelessly to improve both on and off the pitch. The passion and loyalty of our fans drive us, and we know we have to earn back your faith through our actions.

We ask for your patience and continued support as we push forward together. There are no easy fixes, but we promise to give our all to bring pride and success back to the club. Thank you for standing by us through these challenging times. We are determined to work hard and prove that we are worthy of wearing the badge.

Sincerely,
[Club Name]“

[Libby Hibby]

If Gray had any deceny and respect, not only for himself but the club also, he would resign.

We are in serious trouble if he remains in post.

Bang on

[Hibs Go Bragh]

The only way they could have released a worse statement would have been to announce they are recalling Jair Tavares from his loan to help our goal scoring problems 😂

[Crab apple]

Gray was in last chance saloon on Saturday. The awfulness of our performance should have convinced the board that a change in manager was essential. McPherson, Kensell and Mackay putting self interest before the good of the club.

[Keith_M]

I actually think people are reading too much into this statement.

It could well be that they do want to replace him.... but they're currently unprepared in regards to a replacement. So they've just released this meaningless 'we hope it all improves' backing of the current incumbent in the meantime

[Skol]

I said on another thread yesterday that gray would not be sacked. They are hoping we get a result next time out, but if we don’t, what do they then do.

[3pm]

Just asked Chat GPT to draft a statement apologising to the fans for a poor start to the season, opening line and even the structure to an extent looks remarkably similar to what we’ve just been served.

“Club Statement:


We know that this season has not started the way any of us had hoped. Our recent performances have fallen short of the standards we hold ourselves to and, most importantly, the standards you deserve. We understand the frustration and disappointment our results have caused, and we share in that disappointment deeply.

Please know that every person involved in this club — from the players and coaching staff to our support teams and management — is fully committed to turning things around. We are addressing the areas where we have fallen short and working tirelessly to improve both on and off the pitch. The passion and loyalty of our fans drive us, and we know we have to earn back your faith through our actions.

We ask for your patience and continued support as we push forward together. There are no easy fixes, but we promise to give our all to bring pride and success back to the club. Thank you for standing by us through these challenging times. We are determined to work hard and prove that we are worthy of wearing the badge.

Sincerely,
[Club Name]“

🤣

[Onion]

Defeat at Dens and it will be over for SDG

We are in classic Duff Jimmy territory. Say that to Gordon, Kensell or MacKay and they wouldn't have a skooby what we ere talking about. But the fans have seen this movie before. We know how this ends.

[CraigHibee]

Here it is in all its glory:

"We are disappointed with the poor start to our current season like all Hibernian FC supporters.

Following the weekend’s result, we have held discussions as a group addressing how we move forward.

We continue to work tirelessly in our quest to improve our performance and achieve the results we need on the pitch.

Through this challenging time, we support our Head Coach David Gray and his management team. All departments are under pressure to deliver.

We recognise that this is a hard time for our supporters, and we know we can do better. Together, with Black Knight Football, we are working hard to make that happen."

Utterly pathetic!

Hopefully this means BK are "working on" getting a suitable replacement when DG is emptied in a couple of weeks

[ancient hibee]

I honestly think they know no good manager will touch us.

You can't possibly believe that.

[hibeerealist]

If Gray had any deceny and respect, not only for himself but the club also, he would resign.

We are in serious trouble if he remains in post.


Not going to happen. SDG will keep saying he can turn it around, even as they walk him to the door post "mutualled".

This statement is an insult to the Hibs support, do they really think we are that stupid?

I would not be surprised at all if IG has had this statement knocked out in a panic, the BK board members were likely outvoted by the Gordons and friends. Cutely, they (IG and friends), insert the BK's were in attendance at the meeting ( as dictated to the Hibs Observer) and you give the impression they are in agreement with all this.

I would expect Bill Foley is raging as we speak and is considering his next move, lets hope he wins this battle as we are dead if IG and co are left to their own means!

[timewilltell]

That statement is the worst of all the scenarios.

We are simply delaying the inevitable.

[The Captain....]

I'm incredulous at that, what are they doing? **** all again it seems..I can't understand how they'd think it was a good idea to release that.

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[Lago]

I said on another thread yesterday that gray would not be sacked. They are hoping we get a result next time out, but if we don’t, what do they then do.
Said the same, they'll probably issue another statement.

[Hibees1973]

This will prove to be yet another wrong decision by the club.

Can't remember a statement coming out like this when Ross went on a bad run. He was given no support or time.

Gray has no experience as a 1st team manager and there is no evidence that he will be able to turn results around with the squad he has. At least with Ross he had the best win % of any Hibs manager for decades and got us 3rd in the league the previous season. Given a bit more time, patience and support from The Gordons and Kensell, Ross had more chance changing our fortunes than Gray.

So we left with the coaching luminaries Gray, Craig, May and Samson to get us out of this mess.

The Golden Quadrant have put their heads on the block appointing Gray and even more so with this statement.

Complete idiots kicking the can down the road for another few weeks when most should have fallen on their sword, resigned and begged McInnes to get us out of this situation.

[ChuckNor]

What else were they going to say? They’ve decided not to sack him. We just need to support Gray. Hopefully he can get the performances he needs to turn this around.

This should be Kensell’s end at Hibernian FC. He is paid a ridiculous sum of money and has somehow shown he is less capable at running the club than the average man on the street. He is a disgrace.

[Murphys Touch]

Had it on good accord that Hibs were briefing press last night that Gray was going

Then this morning, started to brief that there was further discussions and that things wouldn’t change.

My friend who work in tv and print media said that they flip flopping has been hard to take

[mixumatosis]

If Gray had any deceny and respect, not only for himself but the club also, he would resign.

We are in serious trouble if he remains in post.

It won't come as any surprise to me if that's the story we end up being told.

Things don't improve so the board tell Gray to announce that he's "standing down and returning to his previous post". A statement gets released saying despite the board retaining confidence in his ability to turn it round, they respect his decision.

So they can spin it that they weren't wrong to appoint him and that they didn't sack another manager. Meanwhile, Gray quietly gets his contract paid off on the same terms as if he'd been fired.

[.Sean.]

We’ll no win any our next 4 games either, tough away games at Motherwell and Dundee, and Aberdeen at home and a trip to Celtic Park. Where are the board thinking the points are magically coming from. Idiots

[McHibby]

I just read it and thought, "what a pish statement that is".

Then I wondered if I was being harsh and came on here for the general feeling. But looks like we are all in agreement.

[Scotty Leither]

Not going to happen. SDG will keep saying he can turn it around, even as they walk him to the door post "mutualled".

This statement is an insult to the Hibs support, do they really think we are that stupid?

I would not be surprised at all if IG has had this statement knocked out in a panic, the BK board members were likely outvoted by the Gordons and friends. Cutely, they (IG and friends, insert the BK's were in attendance at the meeting ( as dictated to the Hibs Observer) and you give the impression they are in agreement with all this.

I would expect Bill Foley is raging as we speak and is considering his next move, lets hope he wins this battle as we are dead if IG and co are left to their own means!

I think there’s something in what you say here. My own take on it is that the Gordons are wanting out and this cobbed together pile of utter piffle is another smokescreen from them, aided and abetted by their patsies in the shape of Kensell, Mackay, and MacPherson.

The oblique reference to the BKs fills me with apprehension too, because it’s largely unattributed to anyone from BK and they’re now locked in an impasse with them too.

Round and round we go…

[Viva_Palmeiras]

They would have been better saying nothing, all that's done is pour petrol on the fire.

Clueless.:faf:

Is the PR firm still David Forsyth & co?

I dunno how a PR firm could dress that up given the brief. I guess they didn’t.

presume they advised against it…

next up the crisis management playbook…

[Carheenlea]

Perhaps the stay of execution for a while longer is to try and avoid a three-manager campaign.

[Since90+2]

Could be they are expecting to pick up a point at most over next 2 games and are using the time to find a replacement so there is no gap between Gray leaving and the new person coming in.

Or maybe they just have absolutely no clue what they are doing.

[Is It On....]

Trust the process 🤦

[Keith_M]

Could be they are expecting to pick up a point at most over next 2 games and are using the time to find a replacement so there is no gap between Gray leaving and the new person coming in.
....


That was kind of what I was thinking as well.

[Bostonhibby]

Crap, we're getting another quadrant aren't we?. A platinum one this time.

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[Cabbage-Patch]

Just asked Chat GPT to draft a statement apologising to the fans for a poor start to the season, opening line and even the structure to an extent looks remarkably similar to what we’ve just been served.

“Club Statement:


We know that this season has not started the way any of us had hoped. Our recent performances have fallen short of the standards we hold ourselves to and, most importantly, the standards you deserve. We understand the frustration and disappointment our results have caused, and we share in that disappointment deeply.

Please know that every person involved in this club — from the players and coaching staff to our support teams and management — is fully committed to turning things around. We are addressing the areas where we have fallen short and working tirelessly to improve both on and off the pitch. The passion and loyalty of our fans drive us, and we know we have to earn back your faith through our actions.

We ask for your patience and continued support as we push forward together. There are no easy fixes, but we promise to give our all to bring pride and success back to the club. Thank you for standing by us through these challenging times. We are determined to work hard and prove that we are worthy of wearing the badge.

Sincerely,
[Club Name]“

That statement is 10x better than the one we got

[Real Emerald]

Could be they are expecting to pick up a point at most over next 2 games and are using the time to find a replacement so there is no gap between Gray leaving and the new person coming in.

Or maybe they just have absolutely no clue what they are doing.

They are definitely kicking the can down the road for some reason as I’m convinced that the BKs are not thinking that our current manager and coaching team can turn this around. They must have other reasons, must.

[DIXIHIBS]

Could be they are expecting to pick up a point at most over next 2 games and are using the time to find a replacement so there is no gap between Gray leaving and the new person coming in.

Or maybe they just have absolutely no clue what they are doing.

That's what it sounds like to me. Things have unraveled fairly quickly and they've clearly no back up plan ready if it didn't work out for Gray. I think the decision has been made already and they're gonna take a few weeks to sort a replacement. It's a mess though.

[GloryGlory]

Could be they are expecting to pick up a point at most over next 2 games and are using the time to find a replacement so there is no gap between Gray leaving and the new person coming in.

Or maybe they just have absolutely no clue what they are doing.

Nail. Head. Hit.

[SaulGoodman]

Really can’t be bothered with Hibs right now.

Not happy, not angry, just indifferent. That’s probably not a good sign

[GloryGlory]

They are definitely kicking the can down the road for some reason as I’m convinced that the BKs are not thinking that our current manager and coaching team can turn this around. They must have other reasons, must.

They have a target who is currently unavailable for some reason?

[EskbankHibby]

Crap, we're getting another quadrant aren't we?. A platinum one this time.

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The Platinum Pentagon of Pish

[coldingham hibs]

Can anyone remember a situation where a team were in Hibs position with a manager that for all intense purposes had failed, but the club stuck by them and they actually turned it around?.

[Greenio]

Not sure what folk want in a statement?

Its them saying hea not getting sacked putting that to bed, for now, so we can try n focus on football and getting off the bottom of the league.

Dont see how it could have been a "better" or "worse" statement tbh!

[Real Emerald]

They have a target who is currently unavailable for some reason?

Hopefully they’re not waiting on Pep getting sacked, I couldn’t stand anymore tippy tappy football. 😂

[mcfly]

Tells us absolutely nothing we didn’t know.

The only bit of luck we have is we aren’t detached from the rest of league but if we continue the way we are we will.

Gray if he wants to keep his job has to be brave . Drop his ineffective club captain. Find a proper goalie in Jan. Get the best out of levitt because he is a player.

Oh and sell youan as his attitude is not what we need. Good player on his day but doesn’t want to be with us.

[greenpaper55]

Friend just texted me that Gray wont listen to MM, Scott Fraser has had enough and is leaving the board, allegedly!

[leith lynx]

What a pathetic and insulting "statement", the supporters are being taken for mugs. Kensall, Mckay, Mcpherson and Gordon all hiding behind the BK group.
They really huvnae got a clue!

[snedzuk]

Staggering to think they have had 48 hours to collectively come out with this vague pile of pish.

What a pathetic joke our board are and the whole club is now a shambles.

Surely the BK group have not signed off on this statement.

I'd be amazed if they hadn't given they're mentioned in it.

[expresso]

Let’s wait until we’re isolated at the foot then act
Beyond belief, smacks of self preservation by many !

[GloryGlory]

Hopefully they’re not waiting on Pep getting sacked, I couldn’t stand anymore tippy tappy football. 😂

I was thinking more someone in Scandinavia/elsewhere in Europe/North America who is currently contracted but will be out of contract in the next few weeks?

[GloryGlory]

Can anyone remember a situation where a team were in Hibs position with a manager that for all intense purposes had failed, but the club stuck by them and they actually turned it around?.

Fergie had it tough at Man U at the start and was close to the sack. :wink:

[Joe6-2]

Can anyone remember a situation where a team were in Hibs position with a manager that for all intense purposes had failed, but the club stuck by them and they actually turned it around?.

Alex Ferguson lol

[Real Emerald]

I was thinking more someone in Scandinavia/elsewhere in Europe/North America who is currently contracted but will be out of contract in the next few weeks?

Yeah, I was obviously joking. 👍

[Joe6-2]

I’ve not had a season ticket for a few years, seriously considered getting a half, but no bloody way would I give that lot a damn penny

[GloryGlory]

Yeah, I was obviously joking. 👍

Possibly someone already connected to the BK group?

[flash]

I’ve not had a season ticket for a few years, seriously considered getting a half, but no bloody way would I give that lot a damn penny

Did ye aye?

[GreenPJ]

Not sure what folk want in a statement?

Its them saying hea not getting sacked putting that to bed, for now, so we can try n focus on football and getting off the bottom of the league.

Dont see how it could have been a "better" or "worse" statement tbh!

Is the old adage not that of you have nothing to say, say nothing. I do think that if they had not said anything they would have been criticised.

[Liberal Hibby]

Not exactly an Ibrox quality statement.

Says nothing.

To be fair the Ibrox 'quality' statements at lease move the dial to some extent. If the statement had mentioned some sort of conspiracy against the club involving VAR and robbing us of valuable points - we might get some 50:50 decisions in our favour in the near future. This statement is pointless in the extreme.

[Real Emerald]

Possibly someone already connected to the BK group?

Hoping you’re right. 🤞

[Hiber-nation]

Friend just texted me that Gray wont listen to MM, Scott Fraser has had enough and is leaving the board, allegedly!

Exactly what I heard. No idea about Fraser.

[Joe6-2]

Did ye aye?

Aye a did

[04Sauzee]

Possibly someone already connected to the BK group?

Not even sure who that could possibly be ?

[HoboHarry]

Fergie had it tough at Man U at the start and was close to the sack. :wink:
Arsenal fans wanted rid of Arteta at one time too before he turned it around.

[snedzuk]

They have a target who is currently unavailable for some reason?

Stokesy?

[Cat Stanton]

Can I have the first half of season 1972-73 please?

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[chrisski33]

So no changes as folk rumoured there to be 😡

[Hibees1973]

The Gordons must be looking for a way out.

Have to be.

[chrisski33]

Friend just texted me that Gray wont listen to MM, Scott Fraser has had enough and is leaving the board, allegedly!

Same friend that said there were changes on the way last week?

[hibsbollah]

The Gordons must be looking for a way out.

Have to be.

Wouldn’t you be? It cant be much fun at the moment.

[Greenwich_Hibby]

Dear me, clueless. Well I'm not travelling up to watch this clownshoe of an organisation any longer. Club is in dire straits and they are burying their heads in the sand.

[overdrive]

If BKFC are seriously in support of this, then quite frankly they can GTF too along with the Gordons, Kensell and McPherson.

[H18 SFR]

Do you think the Black knight group would be happy for us to go down as some wider ambition to get the club at a low ball offer?

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

You know what, I actually don’t even care anymore. What’s the point? The board and the Gordon’s have proven time and time again they cannot make good choices in important decisions, until they’re out of the equation we’re up **** creek no matter what they decide to do.


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[Joe6-2]

If BKFC are seriously in support of this, then quite frankly they can GTF too along with the Gordons, Kensell and McPherson.

How can they be if it’s true they didn’t want Gray or MM in the first place 🙄

[snedzuk]

Do you think the Black knight group would be happy for us to go down as some wider ambition to get the club at a low ball offer?

Yes.

[Hibees1973]

Wouldn’t you be? It cant be much fun at the moment.

Not really.

Given any chance to be involved with Hibs would be a dream for me.

This makes it all the more difficult seeing these clowns burn money on players and managers over the last 2-3 years.

Been horrible witnessing so many charlatans either wearing the Hibs badge or associated with the cub who have either contributed nothing or made us worse.

[Steve Austin]

You know what, I actually don’t even care anymore. What’s the point? The board and the Gordon’s have proven time and time again they cannot make good choices in important decisions, until they’re out of the equation we’re up **** creek no matter what they decide to do.


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Oh well when we get destroyed by Aberdeen then that will be I told you so to board ,The fans are just at boiling point with the club ..Sheer incompetence from people in power other managers were chucked for less by HIBS .
Absolutely nothing against David ok,but it’s just not gonna work and his coaching staff too..
Let :confused:the kettle boil HIBS !!!!!

[Hibees1973]

If BKFC are seriously in support of this, then quite frankly they can GTF too along with the Gordons, Kensell and McPherson.

There is no danger BKFC are endorsing this.

Clearly it's a smokescreen given what Foley has already said with regards to Gray and the misogynist & racist Malky.

[WhileTheChief..]

The Gordons must be looking for a way out.

Have to be.

Hopefully Kit pulls Ian aside for a wee chat along the lines of "right son, you had your turn, it's someone else's shot now."

Earlier in the year she talked about being committed to taking the cub forward and helping Ron's legacy. She'll maybe realise the best thing to do is sell up and move on.

[Hibs90]

If Gray had any deceny and respect, not only for himself but the club also, he would resign.

We are in serious trouble if he remains in post.


Nonsense. A man with a young family would not resign, especially considering there's a high chance he's not going to get another managerial job after this that pays the bills.


Do you think the Black knight group would be happy for us to go down as some wider ambition to get the club at a low ball offer?


This has crossed my mind.

[HFC 0-7]

Reckon BK have a new manager in mind but want to try and see iout the season so a new manager doesn’t come in and have to immediately deal with this. Clean slate in the summer I feel.

[Joe6-2]

Reckon BK have a new manager in mind but want to try and see iout the season so a new manager doesn’t come in and have to immediately deal with this. Clean slate in the summer I feel.

Like us tho, they must know that could be to late

[erin go bragh]

Dreaded vote of confidence from the board
Sacked Thursday morning.

[bingo70]

Dreaded vote of confidence from the board
Sacked Thursday morning.

There was a similar board update after the Motherwell game last season when we failed to make top 6, I think Monty managed maybe 2 games after that? Can see the same thing happening again.

[Pretty Boy]

I'll say this for Ian Gordon and Ben Kensell: they seem to have united the support in a way I never thought possible.

Probably not in a way they intended but still.

[Victor]

The only way they could have released a worse statement would have been to announce they are recalling Jair Tavares from his loan to help our goal scoring problems [emoji23]

I wouldn’t joke about that! As we cannot bring in new blood through transfers, recalling our loanees is the only option open to them.

[Ozyhibby]

White flag has gone up. We’re going to the championship.[emoji35]


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[number9dream]

Do you think the Black knight group would be happy for us to go down as some wider ambition to get the club at a low ball offer?

Current SFA rules prohibit such a move… Although there’s always a way round for the super rich.

[Basildon Hibs]

Dreaded vote of confidence from the board
Sacked Thursday morning.

Fingers crossed.

[H18 SFR]

Current SFA rules prohibit such a move… Although there’s always a way round for the super rich.

See that was my first thought and then my second thought as well.

[B.H.F.C]

There was a similar board update after the Motherwell game last season when we failed to make top 6, I think Monty managed maybe 2 games after that? Can see the same thing happening again.

Managed the three. Beat St Johnstone but then lost up at Ross County and the 4-0 home defeat to Aberdeen finished him off.

This will be similar. Even if we scrape a win in one of these games he’s only a couple of defeats away from the bullet now. They’re just kicking the can down the road. It’s ridiculous and just wastes more games.

[Basildon Hibs]

Nonsense. A man with a young family would not resign, especially considering there's a high chance he's not going to get another managerial job after this that pays the bills.




This has crossed my mind.

He's gonna have a much harder task finding a job if he has 'sacked' on his CV..

[gbhibby]

White flag has gone up. We’re going to the championship.[emoji35]


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100% this.

The whole structure of the club needs to be examined there seems to be the same support staff at the club. The same mistakes seem to be happening over and over again. Poor recruitment, poor fitness levels, players unable to do the basics,I could go on. CEO and MM need to do a bit of self analysis. Never seen a hospitality suite win a football match.

[Real Emerald]

White flag has gone up. We’re going to the championship.[emoji35]


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I actually thought the white flag went up at the start of the season when MM basically said there wasn’t much they could do until the end of the season when we can get rid of players out of contract. It sounded like we were being primed for a season where all we could do was plod along.

There is of course truth in his statement but it did seem like they’d already written it off. At least that was my take on it.

[One Day Soon]

This is funny as ***. You could not have a more stark demonstration of the total detachment from reality at ER right now.

This suggests to me they read .net and other social media sites, they know the anger, they have no idea how to fix it, they care more about being in charge than being in control, they think we are passive mugs, they are still dancing to Ian Gordon’s tune and finally - and most importantly - they definitively do not have the best interests of the club at heart. The only question remaining in my mind is whether they know and understand how fundamentally they are the problem.

[expresso]

We don’t have a potential manager in mind and MM doesn’t want the job interim or permanent so we’ll just stagger on as is.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

That statement. Wow.

Can only assume they had a meeting, it got tetchy, they then agreed to sack Gray and agreed on the wording of the statement. At that point, Bill Foley and other BKFC representatives were gaffa taped to their chairs whilst Ian and Ben ran to their laptop and wrote and published that tripe instead.

[Contador]

Total disrespect for the fanbase and further pressure heaped on Gray, if you are not sacking him just say **** all ffs.

We have 2 home games in our next 7 with one of the home games being Aberdeen. We are in deep deep trouble.

I really feel for SDG. Of course he is going to back himself to turn it round and financially is never going to just walk away. A club legend being hung out to dry by imposters above, and he’s ultimately the one that will pay the price.

[Jakhog1]

They mention in the statement that they have held discussions as a group addressing how we move forward, want to tell us what that is and how we are moving forward, they tell us absolutely nothing and hide behind the Black Knight group as to try and appease us somehow, clueless, arrogant, cowardly fuds

[Coco Bryce]

File under 'Gaslighting'

[GloryGlory]

I actually thought the white flag went up at the start of the season when MM basically said there wasn’t much they could do until the end of the season when we can get rid of players out of contract. It sounded like we were being primed for a season where all we could do was plod along.

There is of course truth in his statement but it did seem like they’d already written it off. At least that was my take on it.

I bet they weren't expecting the omnishambles we've got just now though, with the known imposters seeing out their contracts whilst contributing zilch and the new players proving to be not up to the job (new players that MM was at least partly responsible for recruiting BTW). I guess the panic from the board will only set in once we're well adrift at the foot of the table.

[GreenPJ]

He's gonna have a much harder task finding a job if he has 'sacked' on his CV..

99% of managers have a sacking on their CV

[Since452]

We're going down. This is utterly terrifying. Clueless.

[SHODAN]

Cannot ****ing believe I an saying this, but I miss Rod Petrie.

[The Tubs]

We're going down.

Aye. There's every chance we'll break the record lowest points.

[GloryGlory]

Aye. There's every chance we'll break the record lowest points.

Every other team must look at the fixture list to find out how soon they are playing Hibs and be rubbing their hands with glee at the thought of cheap points easily won.

[Hibee Mac]

This is funny as ***. You could not have a more stark demonstration of the total detachment from reality at ER right now.

This suggests to me they read .net and other social media sites, they know the anger, they have no idea how to fix it, they care more about being in charge than being in control, they think we are passive mugs, they are still dancing to Ian Gordon’s tune and finally - and most importantly - they definitively do not have the best interests of the club at heart. The only question remaining in my mind is whether they know and understand how fundamentally they are the problem.

This is bang on. I've been trying to sum up the incompetence at the top of our club recently but I think you summed it up perfectly.

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[Stokesy's on fire]

Cannot ****ing believe I an saying this, but I miss Rod Petrie.

So do i

[chrisski33]

Reckon BK have a new manager in mind but want to try and see iout the season so a new manager doesn’t come in and have to immediately deal with this. Clean slate in the summer I feel.

I dont think they do. In fact its clear alot of us no fk all about what Bks plans or the boards as they are just taking the piss.

[Liam89]

Can anyone remember a situation where a team were in Hibs position with a manager that for all intense purposes had failed, but the club stuck by them and they actually turned it around?.

Gary Caldwell last season at Exeter. Think they lost 11 or 12 games with 1 draw in between including a 7-0 to Bolton and the bad form continued on a wee bit after that.

Ended the season well though and doing well this season considering their budget.

It can happen with patience. Probably as likely as finding a new manager is at times but most clubs never find that out.

[Real Emerald]

I bet they weren't expecting the omnishambles we've got just now though, with the known imposters seeing out their contracts whilst contributing zilch and the new players proving to be not up to the job (new players that MM was at least partly responsible for recruiting BTW). I guess the panic from the board will only set in once we're well adrift at the foot of the table.

Yes, I’m sure they thought there was enough in the squad not to be sitting at one league win in November and bottom of the league. Trying to to it with a rookie management team has bit them on the bum, who knew eh?

[chrisski33]

So do the fans make a statement in return by not going to the next home game? Maybe that will awaken the board and owners.

[B.H.F.C]

Gary Caldwell last season at Exeter. Think they lost 11 or 12 games with 1 draw in between including a 7-0 to Bolton and the bad form continued on a wee bit after that.

Ended the season well though and doing well this season considering their budget.

It can happen with patience. Probably as likely as finding a new manager is at times but most clubs never find that out.

Motherwell went 15 league games without a win last season but stuck with Kettlewell. They stayed up comfortably and are doing well this season so things can turn. I just don’t see anything in us that suggests we are going to improve though.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

So do the fans make a statement in return by not going to the next home game? Maybe that will awaken the board and owners.

4° on a Tuesday night, can't see there being many there anyway to be honest. Aberdeen will have a big crowd down with them

[Trinity Hibee]

Cannot ****ing believe I an saying this, but I miss Rod Petrie.

Was hearing that we charge Rod Petrie for his ticket when he’s at ER. Doesn’t surprise me in the slightest given how things are now.

[WestCoastHibby]

I’m a bit late to the party on this and I’m showing my age but that statement has got to be Hibernian FCs “Gerald Ratner” we sell crap” statement

It’s just ridiculous

[Centre Hawf]

Gary Caldwell last season at Exeter. Think they lost 11 or 12 games with 1 draw in between including a 7-0 to Bolton and the bad form continued on a wee bit after that.

Ended the season well though and doing well this season considering their budget.

It can happen with patience. Probably as likely as finding a new manager is at times but most clubs never find that out.

I find a lot of comparisons for the "give it time" thing quite interesting as I don't fully believe that a lot of them apply to ourselves. Maybe I'm naive but there are some clubs out there that know they're up against it most seasons in certain divisions and the expectations are massively different. Hibs' expectations are to finish in the top 50% of the clubs in the division at least and then hopefully challenge for the best of the rest when the stars align for us a bit. Not what I would say is an unrealistic expectation.

I've previously seen comparisons to the likes of Kettlewell which are probably not that similar either, for periods of time Motherwell probably just want to be safe from going down with the hope if maybe sneaking top 6. You can afford to give managers a lot more time the lower your expectations for them actually are. Motherwell can survive relegation with one good run of form near the end of the season if they see signs of something working. We can miss out on top 6 if we are consistently turning wins to draws like we have done before.

Sadly though right now the expectation is no longer top 6. It's getting ourselves out of the **** as soon as possible before we're falling through a trap door again.

[Forza Fred]

Malky McKay’s appointment has certainly improved things…………maybe, if we give him another 5 years we might get out of the Championship

[He's here!]

Any statement from the club was going to say one of two things. Either Gray's sacked or they're sticking with him.

Is it the fact they haven't sacked Gray that's infuriating so many or were we simply expecting more? ie anything ranging from an apology to an announcement that the owners have realised they're out of their depth and are putting the club up for sale.

[GreenCastle]

I don’t know if it’s just co-incidence but why does it feel like so many things Hibs do right now just feel like mistakes.

They never seem to read the room.

They sacked Monty too late - 3 games into the top 6 and seems like history will repeat itself.

Dundee we may scrape a draw - remember we have only 1 away win in 2024. Aberdeen we have no chance - could actually get ugly if Aberdeen play well.

Like most things Hibs do there seems to be zero succession planning. It’s all off the cuff and no back up plans / ideas. This applies for Grays coaching staff taking so long to sort - transfers and missing out on target with no back up plan. It’s all just firefighting and plaster sticking.

[Iain G]

I don’t know if it’s just co-incidence but why does it feel like so many things Hibs do right now just feel like mistakes.

They never seem to read the room.

They sacked Monty too late - 3 games into the top 6 and seems like history will repeat itself.

Dundee we may scrape a draw - remember we have only 1 away win in 2024. Aberdeen we have no chance - could actually get ugly if Aberdeen play well.

Like most things Hibs do there seems to be zero succession planning. It’s all off the cuff and no back up plans / ideas. This applies for Grays coaching staff taking so long to sort - transfers and missing out on target with no back up plan. It’s all just firefighting and plaster sticking.

Funny I still think they sacked Monty too early, but guess that was still a mistake 🤣

[Forza Fred]

I read the statement as saying….

“This statement is issued to reassure the fans that while we obviously have no idea what we are doing, we will continue to work very hard doing it.”

[JohnM1875]

Just got an email from HSL, I’m sure others have too. They have a meeting with the club on Thursday (pre-arranged) and have suggested members share their views with HSL. Great idea and something I’ll definitely be doing.

[SteveHFC]

I read the statement as saying….

“This statement is issued to reassure the fans that while we obviously have no idea what we are doing, we will continue to work very hard doing it.”

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[Ribs1875]

The fact David Gray has not even admitted to himself at being out his depth is worrying.

[H18 SFR]

The fact David Gray has not even admitted to himself at being out his depth is worrying.

This is where I am at as well. His skill set doesn’t match his self-belief.

[Baader]

I don’t know if it’s just co-incidence but why does it feel like so many things Hibs do right now just feel like mistakes.

They never seem to read the room.

They sacked Monty too late - 3 games into the top 6 and seems like history will repeat itself.

Dundee we may scrape a draw - remember we have only 1 away win in 2024. Aberdeen we have no chance - could actually get ugly if Aberdeen play well.

Like most things Hibs do there seems to be zero succession planning. It’s all off the cuff and no back up plans / ideas. This applies for Grays coaching staff taking so long to sort - transfers and missing out on target with no back up plan. It’s all just firefighting and plaster sticking.

This regime are a disaster and it's been mistake after mistake for years. When that happens in football the end game is usually relegation which is why we are concerned. It would be the logical culmination of the failure of the Gordons and Kensell. It's not even surprising as they have regressed the club at an alarming rate.

[Lago]

This is where I am at as well. His skill set doesn’t match his self-belief.
Like comical Ali as the American tanks rolled into Baghdad, he couldn't see them.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

In hindsight, we should have rioted when it was discovered Turbo Gimp was our Head of Recruitment. The single most disastrous thing to happen to the club in years.

[ancient hibee]

Motherwell went 15 league games without a win last season but stuck with Kettlewell. They stayed up comfortably and are doing well this season so things can turn. I just don’t see anything in us that suggests we are going to improve though.

Like nobody saw with Motherwell then?

[shetlandhibee]

The fact David Gray has not even admitted to himself at being out his depth is worrying. how would you know this? hes hardly going to show if he is,, and obv hoping against hope probably that things turn around, thats in my opinion:agree:

[Yorkshire HFC]

I read the statement as saying….

“This statement is issued to reassure the fans that while we obviously have no idea what we are doing, we will continue to work very hard doing it.”

At least it will stop fans on the internet speculating whether or not he should be sacked.

[makaveli1875]

I guess they think we need another spell in the lower leagues then

[danhibees1875]

This is the worst club statement I've ever seen.

To be fair, I think that title still goes to the ones The Rangers used to produce back in their formative years.

[Ribs1875]

how would you know this? hes hardly going to show if he is,, and obv hoping against hope probably that things turn around, thats in my opinion:agree:

Its painful to see going by his interviews. He looks out of place and in a state of denial.

[Scotty Leither]

Wouldn’t you be? It cant be much fun at the moment.

They’re having to take responsibility, after 5 years of dross on their watch. It’s hard to feel any sympathy for them whatsoever.

[we are hibs]

In hindsight, we should have rioted when it was discovered Turbo Gimp was our Head of Recruitment. The single most disastrous thing to happen to the club in years.100%. If Ron Gordon wanted his son involved in the club he should've placed him somewhere that doesn't have a direct impact on the pitch. Putting him in one of the most important positions in a football club and him massively failing, then the arrogance to just ignore the failings for 3 years by placing fingers in ears whilst the signings hes been involved in have turned us into a bottom 6 team. It's all well and good that folk from Bournemouth look like they're coming up to sort of Ian Gordons mess now, but this could've and should've been done in the summer. Simply more arrogance has led to this situation.


If Ian Gordon had went into some behind the scenes role originally, stayed away from the important stuff. And had then took over the club after his dad passing, then I'd imagine there would be a larger degree of sympathy for the situation he's in. I mean folk would still rightly be losing their ****, but it wouldn't be directed at him as much as it is now. Even if he was failing badly and picking dud managers, at least there would be an acknowledgement that he's in a difficult situation not really of his creating. But this situation is of his creating. Both himself and Kensell. And we are to believe that he is supposed to be "learning" from Kensell? Christ. Has there ever been a bigger case of the blind leading the blind?

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[JimBHibees]

Gary Caldwell last season at Exeter. Think they lost 11 or 12 games with 1 draw in between including a 7-0 to Bolton and the bad form continued on a wee bit after that.

Ended the season well though and doing well this season considering their budget.

It can happen with patience. Probably as likely as finding a new manager is at times but most clubs never find that out.

Very good point

[JimBHibees]

Was hearing that we charge Rod Petrie for his ticket when he’s at ER. Doesn’t surprise me in the slightest given how things are now.

Would struggle to believe that was the case given his sfa position

[Trinity Hibee]

Would struggle to believe that was the case given his sfa position

Same here but apparently was said on the radio the other day.

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/michael-stewart-flips-classless-hibs-30338312

[Hibernian Verse]

You can't possibly believe that.

Really? I didn't say no manager, but I can't believe any good manager on the up would want to work with Ben & Ian given their track record.

[.Sean.]

Woke up this morning even more raging than I was when I first read that pile of pish last night. How demoralising being the laughing stock of Scottish football. Thanks Ian and Ben

[GloryGlory]

Got an e-mail from Hibernian Supporters who are due to meet the club on Thursday in a pre arranged meeting to share concerns. They've asked members for comments and I've stuck my tuppence worth in. I'd encourage anyone else who has the opportunity to do so too. I'm not suggesting personal abuse of individuals, which is counter productive - I've commented on the loss of focus on the football department in favour of marketing and the many shortcomings in player recruitment, the coaching merry-go-round and the seeming lack of basic skill and sometimes motivation of players as a group.

[WestStandWillie]

If Gray had any deceny and respect, not only for himself but the club also, he would resign.

We are in serious trouble if he remains in post.

That's what I hope he'll do but money talks.

[WestStandWillie]

The fact David Gray has not even admitted to himself at being out his depth is worrying.

Why on earth would he say that?

I don't think any manager has ever came out and said they're out their depth whilst in a job.

[He's here!]

The fact David Gray has not even admitted to himself at being out his depth is worrying.

Are you a mind reader? Maybe he thinks he is but I very much doubt it. He'll be feeling the pressure for sure but he's a confident guy who knows the club inside out and is clearly desperate to succeed. He reckons he can do this job.

[CockneyRebel]

Why on earth would he say that?

I don't think any manager has ever came out and said they're out their depth whilst in a job.

Pat Fenlon, Ian Holloway (Palace) ?

[He's here!]

If Gray had any deceny and respect, not only for himself but the club also, he would resign.

We are in serious trouble if he remains in post.

Nonsense. I doubt there's anyone at ER with more respect for the club and its fans than David Gray. He's also clearly a decent guy who's carried himself with dignity throughout all the years he's been at Hibs. We might be in trouble but his integrity's not in question.

[blackpoolhibs]

Hopefully Kit pulls Ian aside for a wee chat along the lines of "right son, you had your turn, it's someone else's shot now."

Earlier in the year she talked about being committed to taking the cub forward and helping Ron's legacy. She'll maybe realise the best thing to do is sell up and move on.

Going by past history she might have a go.

[flash]

Going by past history she might have a go.

Aye as manager.

[flash]

Nonsense. I doubt there's anyone at ER with more respect for the club and its fans than David Gray. He's also clearly a decent guy who's carried himself with dignity throughout all the years he's been at Hibs. We might be in trouble but his integrity's not in question.

Absolutely. What a graceless post.

[SHODAN]

If Gray had any deceny and respect, not only for himself but the club also, he would resign.

We are in serious trouble if he remains in post.

Aye cause I'm sure you would give up your well paid job and security of your family and living situation for a bunch of football fans.

[Callum_62]

Aye cause I'm sure you would give up your well paid job and security of your family and living situation for a bunch of football fans.Absolutely right? [emoji1787]

It's an easy thing to band about when it's not you doing the walking away

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[overdrive]

Would struggle to believe that was the case given his sfa position

I don't think he has an SFA position anymore, to be fair. I thought at the press conference when RG bought the club that RG said RP/TF would always be welcomed back - I would take that to mean on the club's dime.

[Green-Hibee-7]

The arrogance of that statement is ridiculous.

You chose Gray. After a so called internal discussion / review. We do not need you having discussions about the how we move forward.

Removing the son from any decisions, with the CEO and chairman’s resignations is the only discussion I want to hear.

Working hard with the BK. Lmao, the same BK you completed ignored.

Arrogant failures.

[Smartie]

Was hearing that we charge Rod Petrie for his ticket when he’s at ER. Doesn’t surprise me in the slightest given how things are now.

The mental image of Rod Petrie kicking off at the thriftiness of the Hibs board at reception at ER does bring a smirk to my face, right enough.


The fact that we didn't get a wee walk around ER and wave from Farmer and Petrie was possibly the first red flag of the new regime tbh. I know they wouldn't have been universally appreciated but Petrie, I think, quite enjoyed the pantomime villain stuff at times. It was wrong not to show some appreciation to the people who had looked after our club for a few decades, through good and bad times. It sort of set the arrogant, unappreciative, misunderstanding tone of the whole Gordon era that continues to this day.

[Trinity Hibee]

The mental image of Rod Petrie kicking off at the thriftiness of the Hibs board at reception at ER does bring a smirk to my face, right enough.

😂

[ancient hibee]

[QUOTE=Ribs1875;7815090]Its painful to see going by his interviews. He looks out of place and in a state of denial.[/QUOTE

Nothing to beat amateur psychiatry. Absolute tosh.

[The Modfather]

Was hearing that we charge Rod Petrie for his ticket when he’s at ER. Doesn’t surprise me in the slightest given how things are now.

It looks like we are currently using Petrie’s 5 year plan, would be a bit rich to then charge him entry.

[Brizo]

The dreaded vote of confidence. My suspicion is that this is a holding exercise and an ownership defined by arrogance, ego and a lack of any self awareness will be buying themselves time to work out how they get rid of SDG while preserving their positions in the golden quadrangle of incompetence. My guess is they'll give him a couple of games after the break and bin him then if there's no improvement. The further on into the season it gets the easier it is to justify (mainly to themselves) an interim manager and it wouldn't surprise me if their interim target isn't already in the building.

[Ronniekirk]

The dreaded vote of confidence. My suspicion is that this is a holding exercise and an ownership defined by arrogance, ego and a lack of any self awareness will be buying themselves time to work out how they get rid of SDG while preserving their positions in the golden quadrangle of incompetence. My guess is they'll give him a couple of games after the break and bin him then if there's no improvement. The further on into the season it gets the easier it is to justify (mainly to themselves) an interim manager and it wouldn't surprise me if their interim target isn't already in the building.
Malky isn’t interested in the job Do you have anyone else in mind ?
Fans wouldn’t accept it iether

[Brizo]

Malky isn’t interested in the job Do you have anyone else in mind ?
Fans wouldn’t accept it iether


As I said in my post that's just my suspicion. Has he said he isn't interested? And if he has, it doesn't mean he wouldn't take it. He's unlikely to tout himself for SDG's job while SDG is in it. I don't have anyone in mind, do I need to provide an alternative name before I can contribute to the online discussion ?

[Since90+2]

Even if Mackay is interested on an interim basis he can't come out and say it. It would make his relationship with Gray untenable.

[He's here!]

Malky isn’t interested in the job Do you have anyone else in mind ?
Fans wouldn’t accept it iether

Fans might not like it but they wouldn't have the option not to accept it. It's like when managers describe a result/performance as 'unacceptable'. You can't not accept it when it's already happened.

I agree, though, that he's unlikely to want it - although we're we to find ourselves needing a stand-in for a few games he would be the obvious candidate.

[Bobby's Cinema]

Nobody willing to put their name to that statement either. Mr £1000 a day man missing in action again.
That's probably my biggest issue with it. There is no accountability at Easter Road these days.

[TrinityHFC]

That's probably my biggest issue with it. There is no accountability at Easter Road these days.

It clearly says it is an update from the Board of Directors.

[Ronniekirk]

As I said in my post that's just my suspicion. Has he said he isn't interested? And if he has, it doesn't mean he wouldn't take it. He's unlikely to tout himself for SDG's job while SDG is in it. I don't have anyone in mind, do I need to provide an alternative name before I can contribute to the online discussion ?


So many threads that mention Malky wanting to be Manager I just wondered if there was someone else you thought might be able to take over and you have clarified that thanks
I didn’t in any way suggest you needed to name an alternative in order to contribute to the on line discussion

[Iain G]

It clearly says it is an update from the Board of Directors.

No no no that's not how this works, you are supposed to stoke the flames! 😁

[we are hibs]

https://x.com/gregorypcordell/status/1856451562731966975?t=-EppaVTbJOMBLGS6PlqZZA&s=19


"BKFC are optimistic to strengthen our ties with Hibernian FC in the coming months and help them move up in the standings"




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[overdrive]

https://x.com/gregorypcordell/status/1856451562731966975?t=-EppaVTbJOMBLGS6PlqZZA&s=19


"BKFC are optimistic to strengthen our ties with Hibernian FC in the coming months and help them move up in the standings"




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Interesting that Auckland, although branded as a Black Knight club isn't actually owned by BKFC.