Club Statement

[Centre Hawf]

Interesting that Auckland, although branded as a Black Knight club isn't actually owned by BKFC.

I wonder if that would be the means that they'd buy out the Gordon's (if the rumour is true that they're trying).

[Billy Whizz]

https://x.com/gregorypcordell/status/1856451562731966975?t=-EppaVTbJOMBLGS6PlqZZA&s=19


"BKFC are optimistic to strengthen our ties with Hibernian FC in the coming months and help them move up in the standings"




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Good find. How did you dig this up

[Coco Bryce]

Good find. How did you dig this up

X (Twitter) is great for things like this.

[Unseen work]

I wonder if that would be the means that they'd buy out the Gordon's (if the rumour is true that they're trying).

Would potentially be a way round it.

Interesting Auckland aren’t classed as under the same umbrella as us, Bournemouth and Lorient.

Hopefully if it is to be done the wheels are in motion and will be done asap and everything is in place for the January window

[we are hibs]

Good find. How did you dig this upI was trying to see if there was a Black Knight twitter account and found it.




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[Viva_Palmeiras]

X (Twitter) is great for things like this.

Cannae Holdings? Interesting name.

Foley is not name-checking us in his statement to shareholders.

https://www.cannaeholdings.com/static-files/0590facc-9c27-4623-bb90-9f7653c5a283

[Coco Bryce]

Cannae Holdings? Interesting name.

'Cannae Holdon' to a win :greengrin

[Jock O]

Interesting that Auckland, although branded as a Black Knight club isn't actually owned by BKFC.

It is owned by BK group companies though isn't it, primarily a US sub with a very small NZ holding, that looks like some sort of legal structure rather than any independent management does it not? I would imagine it would not be too difficult to prove its a connected entity assuming Foley has a significant interest in it.

What is more interesting is if you look at the group overall, based on the top line it looks like it is effectively a venture capital funded company, An investment vehicle not known for patience for underperforming companies. Not really sure Bill Foley buying us out is quite as clear, or clean, cut as being owned by him. It depends on what the money figures are to be honest, that would give better idea of levels of investment from all of the interested parties and where the big influences may come in not so good times.

Who is the Gregory Cordell that is pulling this together,? Looks like a random football commentator but not much on him out there. Seems to focus on Financial performance of Football clubs, but nothing too exciting by him out there. I have contacted him on twitter to see if he can put numbers to this and a few questions on the legal structure

[Murphys Touch]

This nameless statement is starting to look absolutely ridiculous

Ian Gordon came out and showed face few months ago (and basically said I’ve done everything wrong!) but where are our football leadership team? There’s enough of them!!

[SHODAN]

It's time...

...for Club Statement 2: The Statementing

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

It's time...

...for Club Statement 2: The Statementing

Club Statement 2: Electric Boogaloo surely


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[SHODAN]

Club Statement 2: Electric Boogaloo surely


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That was my initial choice but it's a bit overdone now.

[WeAreHibs]

That was my initial choice but it's a bit overdone now.

Club Statement 2: Electric Boogaloogaloo

[Callum_62]

This nameless statement is starting to look absolutely ridiculous

Ian Gordon came out and showed face few months ago (and basically said I’ve done everything wrong!) but where are our football leadership team? There’s enough of them!!"An update from the Hibernian Board of Directors."




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[SHODAN]

Club Statement 2: Electric Boogaloogaloo

Yes

[Northernhibee]

Club Statement 2: Electric Boogaloogaloo

More like electric booooooooooooo

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

More like electric booooooooooooo

Fair point, can we agree on Club Statement 2: Electric Boooooooooooooogaloogalooo?


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[WeAreHibs]

28296

[SHODAN]

Fair point, can we agree on Club Statement 2: Electric Boooooooooooooogaloogalooo?


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Yes

[HarpOnHibee]

"An update from the Hibernian Board of Directors."


https://i.ibb.co/tBvf4Dq/anon.png

[Callum_62]

https://i.ibb.co/tBvf4Dq/anon.pnghttps://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/club/directors

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[HarpOnHibee]

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/club/directors

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It's quite a number of directors. Who is writing the statements though? Who is taking accountability?

[Bostonhibby]

It's quite a number of directors. Who is writing the statements though? Who is taking accountability?Careful, this could lead to a director of accountability being appointed.

They're going to need a bigger table.

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[Callum_62]

It's quite a number of directors. Who is writing the statements though? Who is taking accountability?It's a joint board statement

I don't see the fuss over that, there's plenty to have a go about (including the details of said statement) but it was obviously released as a board wide statement to show they were in agreement

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[SHODAN]

Where is the statement, my dudes

[HarpOnHibee]

It's a joint board statement

I don't see the fuss over that, there's plenty to have a go about (including the details of said statement) but it was obviously released as a board wide statement to show they were in agreement

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So they're all equally as inept and should all go then?

[JimBHibees]

It's a joint board statement

I don't see the fuss over that, there's plenty to have a go about (including the details of said statement) but it was obviously released as a board wide statement to show they were in agreement

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Exactly not that hard to work out

[Callum_62]

So they're all equally as inept and should all go then?What does the chant "sack the board" mean?

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[HarpOnHibee]

What does the chant "sack the board" mean?

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It doesn't mean anything, because nobody can "sack the board". We need them to walk.

[Callum_62]

It doesn't mean anything, because nobody can "sack the board". We need them to walk.Who are "them?"

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[HarpOnHibee]

Who are "them?"

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"Them" being the members of the board. Only they can stand down, they can't be sacked.

[Docker]

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/club/directors

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In terms of day to day running and club decision making, we are in the hands of Kensell, KitG, IanG, Foley and Caswell unless I am mistaken(happy to be corrected!). Basically the Gordon’s and Kensell decide when SDG will be removed(if at all).
I hope the Non-Exec’s all fulfil their legal responsibility which includes assessing the management teams(Exec Directors) performance against stated objectives and delivery of strategy.
In particular, we have “life long Hibs fans” as Non-Exec Directors………time for Begbie, Fraser and Robb to stand tall and fulfil their NED responsibilities.

[lyonhibs]

Wonder if we'll be be treated to Statementgate 2: The Sequel in the coming days......

[Keith_M]

Surely ''Sack The Bored' would be more appropriate.

[bingo70]

When was the last time there was any sort of official communication from Ben Kensell?

[marinello59]

When was the last time there was any sort of official communication from Ben Kensell?

Probably the last good news story whenever that was. He's been hiding for a while now.

[bingo70]

Probably the last good news story whenever that was. He's been hiding for a while now.

No bad for someone on such a big salary.

[Centre Hawf]

The thing that makes the statement worse for me is that it's made them corner themselves into a position of having to stick by him for probably at least this weeks games. Not that this board have any idea of what they're about to do 5 minutes from any given moment, but you can't come out and say you back the manager etc then sack him after one or two more games.

The statement was a lose lose scenario for them, sack him after the next game then you've made a pointless statement and you obviously never backed him, sack him after 3 more losses you've waited too long again probably. Just totally unnecessary and the only acceptable decision was to just pull the trigger in the international break instead of what nonsense they served up in a horrible attempt to placate the court.

[Alfred E Newman]

Any idea when the AGM will take place this year? That should be an interesting evening.

[Trinity Hibee]

Anyone know if the cancelled HSL meeting has been rearranged? If not, why not?

[Centre Hawf]

Any idea when the AGM will take place this year? That should be an interesting evening.

We haven't even released our accounts yet. Make of that what you will.

[Billy Whizz]

We haven't even released our accounts yet. Make of that what you will.

We don’t generally publish them until Feb/March, for whatever reason

[Centre Hawf]

We don’t generally publish them until Feb/March, for whatever reason

You're right. We released our last ones in February to be fair. But I'm not expecting good things from them when they do come.

[Alfred E Newman]

We don’t generally publish them until Feb/March, for whatever reason

The way things are going our fate could well be sealed by that time which would make it an even more explosive evening.

[matty_f]

Anyone know if the cancelled HSL meeting has been rearranged? If not, why not?

I don’t know, and it’s because I’ve not asked or been told.

[Greenio]

The thing that makes the statement worse for me is that it's made them corner themselves into a position of having to stick by him for probably at least this weeks games. Not that this board have any idea of what they're about to do 5 minutes from any given moment, but you can't come out and say you back the manager etc then sack him after one or two more games.

The statement was a lose lose scenario for them, sack him after the next game then you've made a pointless statement and you obviously never backed him, sack him after 3 more losses you've waited too long again probably. Just totally unnecessary and the only acceptable decision was to just pull the trigger in the international break instead of what nonsense they served up in a horrible attempt to placate the court.

Dont agree.

There was obviously going to be Qs from the press as to whether the club were guna pull the trigger on DG. If they didnt say they backed him, those Qs would have been left unanswered and all the goss and noise that comes with that.

Personally, id stick with DG, he isnt the main issue and i think hes strong enough to handle this pressure

Get new players in/current ones moved on in Jan to rescue this season, like last season.

Start hunt for new CEO now

Start process of Gordons selling majority share to BK

Strat next season with new owners, new CEO and a new manager/staff

[.Sean.]

We haven't even released our accounts yet. Make of that what you will.
Can’t wait for them, mind Kensell telling us how improved they’d be this year 😄

[HoboHarry]

Dont agree.

There was obviously going to be Qs from the press as to whether the club were guna pull the trigger on DG. If they didnt say they backed him, those Qs would have been left unanswered and all the goss and noise that comes with that.

Personally, id stick with DG, he isnt the main issue and i think hes strong enough to handle this pressure

Get new players in/current ones moved on in Jan to rescue this season, like last season.

Start hunt for new CEO now

Start process of Gordons selling majority share to BK

Strat next season with new owners, new CEO and a new manager/staff
So you'd keep DG because he isnt the issue then sack him in the summer? Dead man walking come to mind at all?

[Centre Hawf]

Dont agree.

There was obviously going to be Qs from the press as to whether the club were guna pull the trigger on DG. If they didnt say they backed him, those Qs would have been left unanswered and all the goss and noise that comes with that.

The questions may have came but the club can answer them privately and let it come out in the press instead that there is no plans to get rid of him during the international break instead of putting on such a strong showing of backing him.

Or they could just not have answered the questions at all, it's not like there's a microphone in their face or they're doing a press conference. In fact during an international week it was probably the right time to hunker down and keep quiet in terms of anything coming out the club press wise.

To come all out with a statement was just a panicked move from a board that knows its feet is being held to the fire and was entirely unnecessary because it didn't achieve anything but create the scenario of having to stick by him longer or look like they've gone back on their own statement and it's another piece of communication from them that isn't to be believed.

[truehibernian]

Chris Sutton raised a great point on 606 - if you sack a manager after 12 games, why aren’t you sacking those who employed him. And it’s true - when Gray goes so should Malky - both utterly useless.

[Greenio]

So you'd keep DG because he isnt the issue then sack him in the summer? Dead man walking come to mind at all?

Yep

He's the guy id keep in for now, hes not the guy I'd keep long term

[Contador]

Yep

He's the guy id keep in for now, hes not the guy I'd keep long term

I actually agree with this in a converse way.

The club needs change well above Gray’s head. Whilst I appreciate the board aren’t going to upsticks and walk, there could be structural changes which can at least gives us something to work with going forward.

Sacking yet another manager makes us a total laughing stock and makes it more of a poisoned chalice.

The issues run deeper than SDG

[Jim44]

Chris Sutton raised a great point on 606 - if you sack a manager after 12 games, why aren’t you sacking those who employed him. And it’s true - when Gray goes so should Malky - both utterly useless.

This is why they won’t sack Gray just now. They’re caught between the devil and the deep blue sea. Sack him now and admit their ongoing appointing incompetence or stick with him and risk almost certain relegation.

[Col2]

This is why they won’t sack Gray just now. They’re caught between the devil and the deep blue sea. Sack him now and admit their ongoing appointing incompetence or stick with him and risk almost certain relegation.

Exactly this. However assuming we lose in midweek and then the weekend the hostility towards the board will mean they have no option but to beg the BK have a replacement.

[Since452]

This is why they won’t sack Gray just now. They’re caught between the devil and the deep blue sea. Sack him now and admit their ongoing appointing incompetence or stick with him and risk almost certain relegation.

Just wish they would stop playing with the club and sack him. Gray needs put out of his misery. He's so far out his depth and it's agonising to see. Id have more respect for them if they swallowed their pride and sacked him before it's too late. He's not turning us around. They are hurting the club to try and save face.

[Shrekko]

Just wish they would stop playing with the club and sack him. Gray needs put out of his misery. He's so far out his depth and it's agonising to see. Id have more respect for them if they swallowed their pride and sacked him before it's too late. He's not turning us around. They are hurting the club to try and save face.

Definitely, This 'face saving' is going to get the club relegated.

I'm absolutely stunned that nothing has happened since Saturday. Gray was let down by a senior player but what followed showed just how out his depth he is in terms of how we failed to adapt to the situation.

[we are hibs]

I find it interesting that plenty people agree that this is nothing other than trying to save face by those in charge. Yet I keep reading they "care about the club"? They care about their own image and own pockets more than anything else.

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[GreenCastle]

Another dud manager not lasting long doesn't look good on anyones CV / resume / LinkedIn profile.

Kensell / MM etc are trying to give the guy as much time as possible when it's obvious to the average punter he's miles out his depth as manager.

Kensell whenever he moves onto his next job won't want all these hirings and sackings on his record.

Is that the right thing for the club ? No of course not but it's about self preservation and probably another waste of money having to pay off staff and hire new manager and staff. Basically staff at the club having to actually do proper work.

[Murphys Touch]

I find it interesting that plenty people agree that this is nothing other than trying to save face by those in charge. Yet I keep reading they "care about the club"? They care about their own image and own pockets more than anything else.

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Was listening to Off the ball at the weekend and the Dumbarton fan was talking about that - as soon as the boyhood fan turned CEO left the club, there was very few who "cared about the club". Does Ian Gordon "care" about the club? Does Malky "care" about the club.

Of course not and I think people on here stated their displeasure when the Gordons systematically started getting rid of those that were here for 20+ years behind the scenes. Saying that, it's a balancing act of moving forwards, being fresh and innovative with keeping the essences of "Hibs minded folk" about.

Black Knights - actually I would say their care is different. They have invested HEAVILY in all their clubs and kind of need it to work in some sort of synergy. Their whole reason is to have clubs being efficient and successful

For all their faults (and you could argue they sold to the Gordons but that was their right) would Tom Farmer and Rod have:

CEO on £350k per year - its a lucrative job for Ben compare to Leeann
inexperienced DoF on big bucks - lucrative job for Malky compared to George Craig
Director of Technical Performance - lucrative job for an extremely inexperienced Marshall compared to Graeme Mathie who had a range of other roles that we have silo'd

Ian Gordon is so getting his pants pulled down that of course people don't "care" about Hibs. They might want to do well but not before their own interests

[Golden Bear]

In hindsight, a performance based 6 month trial for a rookie Manager would have been a better option - but probably not to Gray himself.