Hibernian vs Dundee United - Match thread

[Jim44]

I’m in the Gray must go camp but, to be fair, I don’t think we were as awful as some folk are making out. Things again conspired against us but I suppose some will say you make your own luck.

[Coco Bryce]

Best we've been over the last three games. Deserved to win.

3 shots on target at home against a poor team in a must win game.

Nah.

[MWHIBBIES]

It doesn't really matter. We're bottom.


The table doesn’t lie. We are the worst team in the league

I'm speaking about today. And yes, improved performances do matter.

[NC1875]

Best we've been over the last three games. Deserved to win.

Thats not exactly a high standard. Were utter garbage, as the league table shows.

Gray needs to go.

[cabbageandribs1875]

is it time yet to start singing we are unbeatable

[Unseen work]

I'm speaking about today. And yes, improved performances do matter.

It’s the same story every week.

We’re not improving over the course of 90 minutes

[jakedance]

It’s probably not the worst Hibs team I’ve seen, but it’s definitely the thickest.

[McGruber]

Nothing to do with gray.

Running out of ideas about 70 mins. Myko doing nothing, no hold up play isn't looking like scoring. Midfield looking leggy and getting deeper waiting for the inevitable. That's when you need management. Youan had to come on to give us an out and threat up top. Said it watching it, Gray will do nothing and watch it play out and Youan will come on as soon as the United goal goes in when it's too late. Step forward Youan coming on at 90 mins at 1-1. Too late.
Obvious had to change it sooner, was screaming out for it - how can that not be on the manager.

Also game we dominated yet goal apart, United keeper hasn't made a save.

We can change it or we can go down

[Donegal Hibby]

That was a disgraceful refereeing performance by ref and VAR. Disgusting corrupt Ars#holes the lot of them. No way this is down to David Gray

100% .. nothing Gray can do when we are repeatedly getting shafted by corrupt officials..

Really is about time the club called it out for what it is in all.

[hibee_girl]

It’s the same story every week.

We’re not improving over the course of 90 minutes

But we are.

We played well today, the best we’ve played all season.

Just because the officials can’t do their jobs doesn’t mean we played badly.

[Heisenberg]

100% .. nothing Gray can do when we are repeatedly getting shafted by corrupt officials..

Really is about time the club called it out for what it is in all.

Repeatedly? Today definitely but I can’t remember many other decisions going against us this season.

[SteveHFC]

Running out of ideas about 70 mins. Myko doing nothing, no hold up play isn't looking like scoring. Midfield looking leggy and getting deeper waiting for the inevitable. That's when you need management. Youan had to come on to give us an out and threat up top. Said it watching it, Gray will do nothing and watch it play out and Youan will come on as soon as the United goal goes in when it's too late. Step forward Youan coming on at 90 mins at 1-1. Too late.
Obvious had to change it sooner, was screaming out for it - how can that not be on the manager.

Also game we dominated yet goal apart, United keeper hasn't made a save.

We can change it or we can go down

Spot on with everything you’ve said. 👏🏻

[Hibrandenburg]

I thought we played pretty well today overall. Still issues, but I thought we did ok all things considered. We got shafted imo.

Same here. We were the better team by a long shot. Even after we went down to 10 we were better than them. But it's goals that win games and we're not creating enough clear cut chances and we've no one up front who can score from half chances.

[The Captain....]

Played well (relatively) but our inability to put games to bed ultimately cost us again. With the performance and control we had a two goal lead shouldn't have been beyond us. Especially as we know how brittle we are in closing stages.

Tbh there was a slight tug for their pen, but it was nowhere near where the ball was going, was minimal and is the kind of thing you see dozens of times in a game. I'm still surprised it was given.

I'm very pessimistic after that, I just don't think we're capable of winning enough matches to avoid a protracted relegation battle. Even when we play "well" we aren't winning. I'm beyond being angry now, acceptance has settled in, I can't see any way we get out of this with the clowns we have at every level making decisions. Not including Gray in that, he'll no doubt lose his job, but I afford him a level of respect for his previous heroics. He's been set up to fail by a club that has no idea what direction it wants to go in or how to get there.

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[hibeerealist]

When you only score one goal you always run the risk of ended up with 1 point rather than 3.

For all the possession we done nothing with it as usual. This will happen time and time again and we’ll be playing in the championship next season.

The same happy clappers will be on telling us the next game is a must win, just like the last god knows how many and we’ve not managed to win any.

Utter crap.


If the worst team in the league is us then Dundee Utd are almost as bad, I would say even worse than us. yet they have taken 4 points out of six in the last two weeks from our games.

That would suggest to me we are the worst team of the two.

Utter s h i t e

[BroxburnHibee]

Yet another stupid red card

[blackpoolhibs]

We had a lot of the ball, but we dont really do anything with it, their keeper has not had to save anything all day.

Once again we are toothless, and another two points gone, i think Gray is toast, mainly because he does not have the players to get him out this mess, and he's not good enough either.

This is going to be a bloody fight to stay up, and i dont think we have the fight for it.

[.Sean.]

No wonder the team is soft as **** when you look at some of the excuses being made and comments about playing well the last few weeks. We’re bottom of the league, is this just passing folk by? But we’re playing half decent in spells now and again 😂

We have a squad full of *****bag cowards who can’t see a game out and a rookie manager who can’t change a game in our favour. Sleepwalking towards relegation yet again

[hibee_girl]

We had a lot of the ball, but we dont really do anything with it, their keeper has not had to save anything all day.

Once again we are toothless, and another two points gone, i think Gray is toast, mainly because he does not have the players to get him out this mess, and he's not good enough either.

This is going to be a bloody fight to stay up, and i dont think we have the fight for it.

Again that’s not true. Their keeper tipped it over the bar at one point for a start.

[HH81]

How have a poor DU taken 4 points of us so far?

Better team in both but 2 stupid red cards and missed chances.

Garbage.

[Bostonhibby]

I honestly cannot believe what I've just seen from VAR. multiple replays to even see what a pen is given for, then O'Hora is clearly pulled to the ground and var check over without even stopping play. bunch of cheating *******s. that's not incompetence its blatant cheating!I'm simply disinterested in this version of Hibs so the passionate shouting about this stuff isn't there for me for now.

It therefore makes it really easy to say there's something seriously wrong with refereeing for any game at this level when the same decision isn't given for these two events in the same game with the same officials and VAR.

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[Coco Bryce]

Same here. We were the better team by a long shot. Even after we went down to 10 we were better than them. But it's goals that win games and we're not creating enough clear cut chances and we've no one up front who can score from half chances.

We were the better team but we still looked void of any ideas up front.

United were *****! We should have put them to the sword early doors but we never.

[ChuckNor]

Even though I blame the officials for two of the most utterly ridiculous decisions I have ever seen in all my years following this club, Gray is not working out. I wanted it to work. I’m still not sure if it’ll even make any difference sacking him. But it’s inexcusable now. These players are not winning games under this coach. We are in a relegation fight and need to be ruthless.

[OtleyHibs]

Again that’s not true. Their keeper tipped it over the bar at one point for a start.

Theres also our goal, that gave him something to try and save too

[SteveHFC]

No wonder the team is soft as **** when you look at some of the excuses being made and comments about playing well the last few weeks. We’re bottom of the league, is this just passing folk by? But we’re playing half decent in spells now and again 😂

We have a squad full of *****bag cowards who can’t see a game out and a rookie manager who can’t change a game in our favour. Sleepwalking towards relegation yet again

:top marks.

[HarpOnHibee]

Same here. We were the better team by a long shot. Even after we went down to 10 we were better than them. But it's goals that win games and we're not creating enough clear cut chances and we've no one up front who can score from half chances.

True, but even the best players can only score from half chances on occasion which doesn't carry a team through an entire season. So having a player of that quality wouldn't make a significant difference anyway. We make it far too easy for teams to sit in deep against us and we don't do enough to force mistakes from them.

[Unseen work]

But we are.

We played well today, the best we’ve played all season.

Just because the officials can’t do their jobs doesn’t mean we played badly.

I don’t think we played badly

But today was a must win, as was Wednesday. We’ve yet again showed we’re incapable of winning games of football.

We hardly create good chances, rarely score and concede easy goals every week

The players need to hold their hands up, but so does Gray.

He’s doing the exact same thing every week and expecting a different result, it’s not happening.

He’s not even thought about a complete change of shape etc, same every week

[The Harp Awakes]

Weak and feeble. As per usual and all the Celticesque chat and excuses about conspiracies and refereeing decisions isn’t cutting it. Gray out

Hard to disagree. Something has to change here. Where is our next win coming from? The coaching staff have not got a clue how to manage the last 15 minutes of a game.

If the players collectively are nervous wrecks then that's down to the management and coaching. Naivety beyond belief and embarrassing.

[Murphys Touch]

100% .. nothing Gray can do when we are repeatedly getting shafted by corrupt officials..

Really is about time the club called it out for what it is in all.

“Repeatedly shafted” seriously

3 shots on target against a rank Dundee Utd in a must win.

We are repeatedly below average, we are repeatedly letting other teams into games and Gray is repeatedly not managing games well.

We deserve everything we are getting and absolute blind loyalty and an ignorant refusal to look at the main stats (we don’t win football matches) will see us in deep trouble

[NC1875]

If the worst team in the league is us then Dundee Utd are almost as bad, I would say even worse than us. yet they have taken 4 points out of six in the last two weeks from our games.

That would suggest to me we are the worst team of the two.

Utter s h i t e

Exactly, so many people telling us that this team or that team are worse than us. The table doesn’t lie, we’re the worst team in the league.

That is on Gray and that is why he needs to go.

Another manager has us nowhere near bottom. He hasn’t got a clue and his time should be up.

His game management is terrible.

Cant believe people are on here saying we played well ?

The Utd keeper never had a save to make

[Onion]

Most called this a "must win" game for SDG. So, what now ?

Would also love to know :

1. how many points we'd have if a game lasted just 80 mins ?
2. how many managers anywhere in Scotland have a worse record than 1 win in 15 ?

[blackpoolhibs]

Again that’s not true. Their keeper tipped it over the bar at one point for a start.

It was a bloody routine save, if Bursic let that in could you imagine the way it would go on here, it was like that worldy he saved last week, it was straight at him.

[HarpOnHibee]

Again that’s not true. Their keeper tipped it over the bar at one point for a start.

He did, but it was a save you would have expected him to make. We're not making opposition goalkeepers work hard.

[Coach Jon]

Dundee United were absolutely honking today, we were given loads of space and time on the ball under no pressure from them, and we were unable to create anything. A decent team would have strolled that game today. Agree they got a soft penalty, but if you cant put the game to bed then the opposition have nothing to lose and can go 5hit or bust in the last 15 mins.
We should take a look at ourselves before blaming a VAR decision, it should never have came down to that.

[Lago]

Running out of ideas about 70 mins. Myko doing nothing, no hold up play isn't looking like scoring. Midfield looking leggy and getting deeper waiting for the inevitable. That's when you need management. Youan had to come on to give us an out and threat up top. Said it watching it, Gray will do nothing and watch it play out and Youan will come on as soon as the United goal goes in when it's too late. Step forward Youan coming on at 90 mins at 1-1. Too late.
Obvious had to change it sooner, was screaming out for it - how can that not be on the manager.

Also game we dominated yet goal apart, United keeper hasn't made a save.

We can change it or we can go down
You have said it so much better than I could, dominated the game but made only 2 maube 3 chances, scored with one. This team is definitely going to be relegation candidates if something doesn't change soon.

[Unseen work]

Most called this a "must win" game for SDG. So, what now ?

Would also love to know :

1. how many points we'd have if a game lasted just 80 mins ?
2. how many managers anywhere in Scotland have a worse record than 1 win in 15 ?

Mate if any other team in the league had this sort of form the manager would be gone, let alone a team that aspires to be the third best in the country.

People can try defend SDG all they want, but the stats are there for all to see

11 league games
1 win
5 defeats
5 draws

Defeat to Kelty Hearts in the cup

[greenlex]

“Repeatedly shafted” seriously

3 shots on target against a rank Dundee Utd in a must win.

We are repeatedly below average, we are repeatedly letting other teams into games and Gray is repeatedly not managing games well.

We deserve everything we are getting and absolute blind loyalty and an ignorant refusal to look at the main stats (we don’t win football matches) will see us in deep trouble
Say whatever you want but we did enough to win that game today. You couldn’t have said that in previous weeks but not today. Yes we have striking problems and yes we are prone to late collapses but that wasn’t a collapse today. I do feel cheated.

[Coco Bryce]

Dundee United were absolutely honking today, we were given loads of space and time on the ball under no pressure from them, and we were unable to create anything. A decent team would have strolled that game today. Agree they got a soft penalty, but if you cant put the game to bed then the opposition have nothing to lose and can go 5hit or bust in the last 15 mins.
We should take a look at ourselves before blaming a VAR decision, it should never have came down to that.

Spot on.

[Onion]

“Repeatedly shafted” seriously

3 shots on target against a rank Dundee Utd in a must win.

We are repeatedly below average, we are repeatedly letting other teams into games and Gray is repeatedly not managing games well.

We deserve everything we are getting and absolute blind loyalty and an ignorant refusal to look at the main stats (we don’t win football matches) will see us in deep trouble

We're running out of the easier "must-win" games, and in real danger of getting cast adrift when the tougher games against Celtic, Aberdeen, Rangers come to town.

[Cabbage-Patch]

I thought we played pretty well today overall. Still issues, but I thought we did ok all things considered. We got shafted imo.

If you think we played well today you either need your eyes tested or have very low standards. We were the better team but that's not saying much and makes the result even harder to take. We have absolutely ZERO creativity top end of the park. I lost count the amount of times our final ball found a Dundee Utd defender today. I couldn't care less if the penalty was harsh we only have ourselves to blame for not punishing a poor Dundee Utd team that were there for the taking.

We are an absolutely awful team to watch and teams must absolute relish playing against us at the minute.

I won't be back at Easter Road again until massive changes are made starting with Gray getting his jotters tomorrow. Can safely say his team are the hardest watch even in comparison to Johnson, Monty and Maloneys hibs.

[He's here!]

Thats not exactly a high standard. Were utter garbage, as the league table shows.

Gray needs to go.

We weren't utter garbage today. Folk are just raging at yet another late loss of points.

We're toiling but you can tell the players are behind the boss. Beforehand I felt a win was pretty much essential but I thought we showed enough to suggest we can remain competitive enough not to get cut adrift. Not exactly a high bar but we can't just keep ripping things up and starting again. It gets us nowhere.

[Basildon Hibs]

No wonder the team is soft as **** when you look at some of the excuses being made and comments about playing well the last few weeks. We’re bottom of the league, is this just passing folk by? But we’re playing half decent in spells now and again 😂

We have a squad full of *****bag cowards who can’t see a game out and a rookie manager who can’t change a game in our favour. Sleepwalking towards relegation yet again

Correct.

Things have to change PDQ i.e this week,
or we're going down.

1 win in 15 is way past sacking material.

[Ribs1875]

Played well (relatively) but our inability to put games to bed ultimately cost us again. With the performance and control we had a two goal lead shouldn't have been beyond us. Especially as we know how brittle we are in closing stages.

Tbh there was a slight tug for their pen, but it was nowhere near where the ball was going, was minimal and is the kind of thing you see dozens of times in a game. I'm still surprised it was given.

I'm very pessimistic after that, I just don't think we're capable of winning enough matches to avoid a protracted relegation battle. Even when we play "well" we aren't winning. I'm beyond being angry now, acceptance has settled in, I can't see any way we get out of this with the clowns we have at every level making decisions. Not including Gray in that, he'll no doubt lose his job, but I afford him a level of respect for his previous heroics. He's been set up to fail by a club that has no idea what direction it wants to go in or how to get there.

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The club have indeed set him up to fail, but he was delusional to take the job in the first place. Employing MM was adding another chef to the already over flown kitchen in my opinion. Too many guys trying to pull the club in many directions. Recruitment has been unacceptable, Simon Murray being a public transfer target with a number of bids made rang enough alarm bells for me to know we have really lowered our standards. If we get relegated then they only have themselves to blame for employing yesmen coaches with limited coaching experience.

[He's here!]

If you think we played well today you either need your eyes tested or have very low standards. We were the better team but that's not saying much and makes the result even harder to take. We have absolutely ZERO creativity top end of the park. I lost count the amount of times our final ball found a Dundee Utd defender today. I couldn't care less if the penalty was harsh we only have ourselves to blame for not punishing a poor Dundee Utd team that were there for the taking.

We are an absolutely awful team to watch and teams must absolute relish playing against us at the minute.

I won't be back at Easter Road again until massive changes are made starting with Gray getting his jotters tomorrow. Can safely say his team are the hardest watch even in comparison to Johnson, Monty and Maloneys hibs.

Prepare yourself not to be back for a while then. 'Massive changes' won't be happening any time soon.

[Donegal Hibby]

Repeatedly? Today definitely but I can’t remember many other decisions going against us this season.

We have been getting given soft yellow cards for first offences while the other teams players escape .. Triantis has had two , one against hertz and the other against Motherwell which he was sent off in …


Corrie Ndabas tackle on Miller an another one .. it just keeps happening.

[Ronniekirk]

No it isn’t. Result aye but not much wrong with the performance.
But we are still not managing to score enough goals and teams know we will concede in the later part of a game
It’s happening to often and it’s why we are stuck at the bottom of the League
My worry is we have injuries and are getting players sent off them missing games With so many games to play in short space of time after the break it’s a worry for me .progress needs to be accompanied with wins or nothing really changes re league position

[NC1875]

We weren't utter garbage today. Folk are just raging at yet another late loss of points.

We're toiling but you can tell the players are behind the boss. Beforehand I felt a win was pretty much essential but I thought we showed enough to suggest we can remain competitive enough not to get cut adrift. Not exactly a high bar but we can't just keep ripping things up and starting again. It gets us nowhere.

Dundee Utd were crap. We were slightly less crap. Yet we still managed to draw the game. That must win game.

We are utter garbage. Gray is useless as a manager and we’ll be in the championship next season if we persist with him.

Do you think he’s suddenly going to become even semi competent ? His game management is shocking.

And you say the players are behind him? Thats laughable. Were bottom of the league if you hadn’t noticed ?

The players are really going that extra mile for him 👍🏼

[HarpOnHibee]

If you think we played well today you either need your eyes tested or have very low standards. We were the better team but that's not saying much and makes the result even harder to take. We have absolutely ZERO creativity top end of the park. I lost count the amount of times our final ball found a Dundee Utd defender today. I couldn't care less if the penalty was harsh we only have ourselves to blame for not punishing a poor Dundee Utd team that were there for the taking.

We are an absolutely awful team to watch and teams must absolute relish playing against us at the minute.

I won't be back at Easter Road again until massive changes are made starting with Gray getting his jotters tomorrow. Can safely say his team are the hardest watch even in comparison to Johnson, Monty and Maloneys hibs.

I thought we played well relative to how we have played this season. But you're right, it's not really saying a whole lot. 3 shots on target from 13 attempts, with 2 of those shots being routine saves really does sum things up. We never really look like scoring a lot of goals in a game, even if we manage to score the odd goal. I still thought we did enough for the 3 points today though and the VAR decision was a very selective one that would be overlooked in the vast majority of those situations.

[Scottie]

Not today. Played extremely well. Dundee united are much worse than us.
Behave FFS that was another inept performance by an inept manager and an inept team but if your happy with that crack on.

[Basildon Hibs]

We weren't utter garbage today. Folk are just raging at yet another late loss of points.

We're toiling but you can tell the players are behind the boss. Beforehand I felt a win was pretty much essential but I thought we showed enough to suggest we can remain competitive enough not to get cut adrift. Not exactly a high bar but we can't just keep ripping things up and starting again. It gets us nowhere.

Who gives a **** if the players 'are behind the boss'?

What's that got to do with us being utter ***** and bottom of the league?

[chrisski33]

just pish! perfomances mean f all if we cant win the game! can blame the officials all we want however we fail to score more than one goal and fail to see out the game esp in the last 15 mins. We are bottom of the league and it doesnt lie, we are ***** and no amount of "we performed well" will change that!

[easty]

No wonder the team is soft as **** when you look at some of the excuses being made and comments about playing well the last few weeks. We’re bottom of the league, is this just passing folk by? But we’re playing half decent in spells now and again 😂

We have a squad full of *****bag cowards who can’t see a game out and a rookie manager who can’t change a game in our favour. Sleepwalking towards relegation yet again

Spot on.

I’ve thought the same since a few weeks back when folk thought beating St Johnstone at home (when we weren’t even good) and “just” losing at Ibrox was a sign we were improving, or turning things round.

We’re *****. We’ve replaced a ***** manager who wasn’t getting the most out of anyone but had Maolida pulling us out of the ****, to Gray who just isn’t really doing anything.

Nothing will ever change how much SDG is a Hibs legend to me, but he should never have got the job, and keeping him in it is a massive mistake.

[Hibiza]

Golden quadrant : more like a bag of kidney surplus.

[The Harp Awakes]

We weren't utter garbage today. Folk are just raging at yet another late loss of points.

We're toiling but you can tell the players are behind the boss. Beforehand I felt a win was pretty much essential but I thought we showed enough to suggest we can remain competitive enough not to get cut adrift. Not exactly a high bar but we can't just keep ripping things up and starting again. It gets us nowhere.

The question is, when are we actually going to win a game? Chucking games and points repeatedly in the last 10 minutes can only go on for so long.

While we're far from being a good side, there is no way that group of players should be rank bottom of the league, considering some of the dogs1te teams we're playing.

Mental strength and composure is non-existent and that's unacceptable.

[AdidasHibernian]

It worries me people think we have played well today. These are meant to be the games we have chance of getting 3 points against, but we don't because we are pish. What hepoens when we play the sheep, celtic and rangers etc. Plus away from home who can you actually say we will beat never mind at home. We are sleep walking into relegation.

[Cabbage-Patch]

Prepare yourself not to be back for a while then. 'Massive changes' won't be happening any time soon.

Won't be losing any sleep over it. The club will always have my support but the Gordon's have had thier last penny out of me for the foreseeable. We are a shambles

[percy veer]

We'd probably have missed the penalty if it was awarded, anyway..😁


i said ir=t right from the start we really need to start playing this VAR game every player run hands down in the box and everyone i mean everyone go down there must be someone touching someone

[Ronniekirk]

I don’t think we played badly

But today was a must win, as was Wednesday. We’ve yet again showed we’re incapable of winning games of football.

We hardly create good chances, rarely score and concede easy goals every week

The players need to hold their hands up, but so does Gray.

He’s doing the exact same thing every week and expecting a different result, it’s not happening.

He’s not even thought about a complete change of shape etc, same every week

This for me .St Mirren up next is another must win game but it’s hard to see how we will do that if we can’t score two goals and can’t stop giving away cheap goals and getting players sent off

[B.H.F.C]

We’re ****ed. I just don’t see where a win comes from. We repeatedly put ourselves in winning positions but find different ways of throwing it away. Not seen the penalty back so can’t really comment on that but the game should have been done well before that. We were in total control but just really lack any proper quality in the final third. It’s just all crosses and hoping something may drop. Very little quality though.

We’re not fit enough to get through games either. Players were out on their feet from about 75 minutes. We had subs ready for ages but by the time we got them on the park the ball was in the net and we were down to 10.

[babahibs]

If you think we played well today you either need your eyes tested or have very low standards. We were the better team but that's not saying much and makes the result even harder to take. We have absolutely ZERO creativity top end of the park. I lost count the amount of times our final ball found a Dundee Utd defender today. I couldn't care less if the penalty was harsh we only have ourselves to blame for not punishing a poor Dundee Utd team that were there for the taking.

We are an absolutely awful team to watch and teams must absolute relish playing against us at the minute.

I won't be back at Easter Road again until massive changes are made starting with Gray getting his jotters tomorrow. Can safely say his team are the hardest watch even in comparison to Johnson, Monty and Maloneys hibs.

See you then :nanawave:

[tamig]

Gray to blame for that today. Why did he hang off making the subs? He makes these changes 10 mins sooner when we couldn’t keep the ball we win that game. Very disappointing but not surprising outcome yet again. At least he made the right subs this time. Just screwed the timing.

[He's here!]

Dundee Utd were crap. We were slightly less crap. Yet we still managed to draw the game. That must win game.

We are utter garbage. Gray is useless as a manager and we’ll be in the championship next season if we persist with him.

Do you think he’s suddenly going to become even semi competent ? His game management is shocking.

And you say the players are behind him? Thats laughable. Were bottom of the league if you hadn’t noticed ?

The players are really going that extra mile for him 👍🏼

Players gave it their all today. Turned out not to be enough but they're not playing like a team resigned to their fate. I think it's still too early to write them off. We need to stay in touch until January, bring in a decent signing or two and hope that Bowie recovers more quickly than expected.

[SteveHFC]

Wether it was a penalty or not the bottom line is we are bang average.

United where there for the taking but out front play is dreadful.

We defend better then penalty doesn't happen, Grays time is up for no point in more time it's just not going to work out in my opinion

[Cabbage-Patch]

We weren't utter garbage today. Folk are just raging at yet another late loss of points.

We're toiling but you can tell the players are behind the boss. Beforehand I felt a win was pretty much essential but I thought we showed enough to suggest we can remain competitive enough not to get cut adrift. Not exactly a high bar but we can't just keep ripping things up and starting again. It gets us nowhere.

Look forward to Davie Gray at the helm in the championship next season then because that is exactly where we will be with him in charge. We pulled the trigger on Jack Ross and Maloney too quick but I don't feel the same with Gray. I get absolutely zero sense he can turn this around. This team is by far the worst out of the last 5 managers.

[Murphys Touch]

Sorry sorry state when that is playing well.

That performance should be our run of the mill performance…that’s the performance that we should be slating the team for being on top and not creating chances.

Instead we are getting some on here saying that was acceptable. It’s a sign of the state of the place in the last few years

[He's here!]

Who gives a **** if the players 'are behind the boss'?

What's that got to do with us being utter ***** and bottom of the league?

It counts for a lot as anyone who's played competitive team sport knows. Look at the body language compared to the players who played under, say, Calderwood or Butcher.

[Aldo]

Mate said the bar is set that low it was a good performance. Says it all for me.

[JimBHibees]

I thought HIBS were good today. Keep playing like that and we will win more than we lose. So unlucky today.

Thought we were good today

[MWHIBBIES]

Sorry sorry state when that is playing well.

That performance should be our run of the mill performance…that’s the performance that we should be slating the team for being on top and not creating chances.

Instead we are getting some on here saying that was acceptable. It’s a sign of the state of the place in the last few years

Nonsense. Actually played well, outworked them, won 2nd balls, got into good areas, had them chasing us. Ref decided it should be a draw, so it was. Hibs done well. Better than we've played all season.

[Murphys Touch]

Nonsense. Actually played well, outworked them, won 2nd balls, got into good areas, had them chasing us. Ref decided it should be a draw, so it was. Hibs done well. Better than we've played all season.

Ref decided nothing mate - you think that goes through his head in any professional sport!

We allowed a bad decsion to have a huge impact on a match we were miles ahead because our play is boring and one dimensional.

Did this ref decide in August that Hibs should be bottom? Did the other refs decide to send Newell off for no reason a few weeks ago..all very weird conspiracy
We were better than a poor Dundee Utd team….we didn’t blow them away.

[JimBHibees]

No it isn’t. Result aye but not much wrong with the performance.

Nothing wrong with that performance

[Wull]

Myko should have been subd 70mins as he had done nothing and is crap as the lone striker, poor control and no movement to run off defenders. Gray should know when things are not working, shame to say but we need a new manager who has experience not another project appointment

[Real Emerald]

Thought we were good today

What a load of absolute nonsense. We played nice patters of football but never hurt them. We then allowed them to get back into the game, lost our right back due to injury and inexplicably went to a back three with no right back leaving Martin Boyle not knowing what he was doing. Everyone in the stadium knew we were going to concede late on. If that’s playing well, it just shows how pish we’ve become, we are rank rotten, one win all season FFS, it’s awful football.

[MWHIBBIES]

Ref decided nothing mate - you think that goes through his head in any professional sport!

We allowed a bad decsion to have a huge impact on a match we were miles ahead because our play is boring and one dimensional.

Did this ref decide in August that Hibs should be bottom? Behave
We were better than a poor Dundee Utd team….we didn’t blow them away.

Yes. A ridiculous couple of decisions cost us.

Two teams in a match, we've no right just to put 5 past a side just because we're on top. It really just didn't fall for us in the box and we missed chances. That doesn't take away from a good performance. Just a crap result. I mind the same utter hysteria after a 1-1 draw with united during COVID.

This is today's match thread. I'm talking about today. I'm as pissed off as anyone were bottom and have said for weeks we're in serious trouble. I also have the ability to judge purely today's match, in which we were by far the better side and deserved to win. Keep that level up we'll be fine. We weren't boring or one dimensional whatsoever today.

[The Spaceman]

We played well and were in control for 99% of that game, undone by a bizarre penalty decision. Actually feel sorry for the team/club tonight, we are getting absolutely no breaks just now.

[MWHIBBIES]

What a load of absolute nonsense. We played nice patters of football but never hurt them. We then allowed them to get back into the game, lost our right back due to injury and inexplicably went to a back three with no right back leaving Martin Boyle not knowing what he was doing. Everyone in the stadium knew we were going to concede late on. If that’s playing well, it just shows how pish we’ve become, we are rank rotten, one win all season FFS, it’s awful football.

:faf:

Sorry, who should've came on at right back? We continuedto easily deal with them with the back 3.

If ref didn't give them a penalty, they were never scoring.

[B.H.F.C]

What a load of absolute nonsense. We played nice patters of football but never hurt them. We then allowed them to get back into the game, lost our right back due to injury and inexplicably went to a back three with no right back leaving Martin Boyle not knowing what he was doing. Everyone in the stadium knew we were going to concede late on. If that’s playing well, it just shows how pish we’ve become, we are rank rotten, one win all season FFS, it’s awful football.

Thought we were good from about 15/20 minutes in through to half time.

But we so rarely look like scoring a goal. It’s just cross after cross and hoping that something falls for us. It’s no good enough, and even though I thought we were comfortably the better team, that’s just a reflection of how poor we are really.

[NC1875]

David Gray, the players and the board will be loving all the hard luck stories tonight.

It’s on them were bottom of the league, not the referee.

Sign of the times when people are saying we played well today.

At least we should win most weeks next season in the championship

[Murphys Touch]

Yes. A ridiculous couple of decisions cost us.

Two teams in a match, we've no right just to put 5 past a side just because we're on top. It really just didn't fall for us in the box and we missed chances. That doesn't take away from a good performance. Just a crap result. I mind the same utter hysteria after a 1-1 draw with united during COVID.

This is today's match thread. I'm talking about today. I'm as pissed off as anyone were bottom and have said for weeks we're in serious trouble. I also have the ability to judge purely today's match, in which we were by far the better side and deserved to win. Keep that level up we'll be fine. We weren't boring or one dimensional whatsoever today.

So we don’t have the right to put 5 goals in yet “deserved” to win. I see us out 3 shots on target and let a very gash Dundee United team and let them come back into it.

That hysteria in COVID was for a team in 3rd and getting to finals. And it is totally right to be hysterical…these are MUST win games and we are not winning

But aye - as a one off, suppose it’s the refs decision

[GreenCastle]

Lots of people with excuses and trying to find positives but we are in a situation where we need to win games and fast. Draws are crap.

1 win and lose 1 (3 points ) is better than 2 draws and being defeated in 2 (2 points).

We needed a 2nd goal today - our failure to do so allowed us to be edgy / nervy and common trait of getting deeper and deeper then giving the opposition a way back into the game.

Utd were awful today - game was there for the taking but while we dominated large parts of it we didn’t exactly create loads of good opportunities.

I stayed right till the end but it’s becoming hard and harder to defend constant disappointment and for various reasons losing late goals.

If we don’t win next week it’s 100% we need a change - that doesn’t mean just the manager - staff in senior roles and restructuring of staff / new coaching staff.

Right now it’s 90% but if we beat St Mirren then he gets another week to beat Dundee. Fail to win the next 2 and I think he has to go as we aren’t suddenly going to drastically improve.

My concern is the muppets doing the recruitment and zero trust in them plus they will be stuck with the same unbalanced squad and players.

[McGruber]

Yes. A ridiculous couple of decisions cost us.

Two teams in a match, we've no right just to put 5 past a side just because we're on top. It really just didn't fall for us in the box and we missed chances. That doesn't take away from a good performance. Just a crap result. I mind the same utter hysteria after a 1-1 draw with united during COVID.

This is today's match thread. I'm talking about today. I'm as pissed off as anyone were bottom and have said for weeks we're in serious trouble. I also have the ability to judge purely today's match, in which we were by far the better side and deserved to win. Keep that level up we'll be fine. We weren't boring or one dimensional whatsoever today.

One of those ridiculous decisions was our manager trying to hold it as it was and not making the changes we were screaming out for to go win the game. He froze today.

[Real Emerald]

:faf:

Sorry, who should've came on at right back? We continuedto easily deal with them with the back 3.

If ref didn't give them a penalty, they were never scoring.

Iredale should have moved to RB when he came in. The management is shambolic.

[Unseen work]

Iredale should have moved to RB when he came in. The management is shambolic.

Iredale is left footed, no danger should he have went to right back

[MWHIBBIES]

One of those ridiculous decisions was our manager trying to hold it as it was and not making the changes we were screaming out for to go win the game. He froze today.
That didn't happen. Hibs didn't sit back at all today. We tried to win it. What subs would've made us better?


So we don’t have the right to put 5 goals in yet “deserved” to win. I see us out 3 shots on target and let a very gash Dundee United team and let them come back into it.

But aye - as a one off, suppose it’s the refs decision

Yes, we did deserve to win. The ref got them back in to it, nothing else. They were a distant 2nd best.

[MWHIBBIES]

Iredale should have moved to RB when he came in. The management is shambolic.

A left footed left sided defender should've went to right back? Eh, no. 352 was the only decision.

[JimBHibees]

But we are.

We played well today, the best we’ve played all season.

Just because the officials can’t do their jobs doesn’t mean we played badly.

Absolutely correct. How about we support our coach in a difficult situation?

[Scotty Leither]

Thought we were good from about 15/20 minutes in through to half time.

But we so rarely look like scoring a goal. It’s just cross after cross and hoping that something falls for us. It’s no good enough, and even though I thought we were comfortably the better team, that’s just a reflection of how poor we are really.

The goalie has sold the buns again for me, I’m afraid. Instead of gathering the ball in the previous passage of play (and risk getting a whack for his trouble) he lamely pushed it out for a corner, and from that corner the penalty decision is given.

That may sound overly critical, but the same thing happened last week against that lot when he spilled the through ball and then next passage of play the ball was in the net.

It wasn’t his fault for the eternity it took for the bench to make the substitution though…poor decisions by inexperienced individuals is costing us dearly, but how do we fix it?

[Murphys Touch]

That didn't happen. Hibs didn't sit back at all today. We tried to win it. What subs would've made us better?



Yes, we did deserve to win. The ref got them back in to it, nothing else. They were a distant 2nd best.
Fair enough mate…they weren’t a distant 2nd best.

They were 1 goal behind and that’s our fault

[Real Emerald]

Iredale is left footed, no danger should he have went to right back

So we just leave Boyle on his own to deal with the whole right side of the pitch. The whole management of the team is ridiculous and we WILL get relegated if this carries on.

[Gatecrasher]

Played well today but yet again, we don't create enough chances or score enough goals. With how much we controlled the game we should have won comfortably. Football doesn't always work like that but it's been a trend with us for years.

[B.H.F.C]

So we just leave Boyle on his own to deal with the whole right side of the pitch. The whole management of the team is ridiculous and we WILL get relegated if this carries on.

With the options we had available I don’t think we could have done much different. Putting Iredale at right back is a no for me.

[Broken Gnome]

Today's a decent performance, relatively speaking. That's heavily caveated with it being a game that an opposition did next to nothing, yet we never really looked like making it 2-0.

As long as we look a fair bit away from properly killing teams off - and we do - the current state of affairs is likely going to persist. We might end up scraping one win from five or six in time, but there's usually going to be something that costs us two or three points.

[JimBHibees]

Dundee Utd were crap. We were slightly less crap. Yet we still managed to draw the game. That must win game.

We are utter garbage. Gray is useless as a manager and we’ll be in the championship next season if we persist with him.

Do you think he’s suddenly going to become even semi competent ? His game management is shocking.

And you say the players are behind him? Thats laughable. Were bottom of the league if you hadn’t noticed ?

The players are really going that extra mile for him 👍🏼

We were fine today and done by refs. Give David a chance. That decision could get him sacked.

[Real Emerald]

With the options we had available I don’t think we could have done much different. Putting Iredale at right back is a no for me.

Why? He’s a footballer and a defender. For me even though Boyle had an ineffective game, he was basically taken out of the game having no right back. Surely a defender can defend regardless of what foot they play with. Anyway, it’s splitting hairs and we should have scored more and held out, I’m utterly frustrated with it all, sorry.

[JimBHibees]

It worries me people think we have played well today. These are meant to be the games we have chance of getting 3 points against, but we don't because we are pish. What hepoens when we play the sheep, celtic and rangers etc. Plus away from home who can you actually say we will beat never mind at home. We are sleep walking into relegation.

Clearly we’re fine today

[JJP]

Some absolute nonsense on here. If it’s not for VAR today we win.

[ChuckNor]

Has Gray commented on the game yet?

[Real Emerald]

Clearly we’re fine today

We were magnificent. 👍

[Donegal Hibby]

Nonsense. Actually played well, outworked them, won 2nd balls, got into good areas, had them chasing us. Ref decided it should be a draw, so it was. Hibs done well. Better than we've played all season.

Don’t normally agree with you though your absolutely spot on here IMO 👍

[Unseen work]

So we just leave Boyle on his own to deal with the whole right side of the pitch. The whole management of the team is ridiculous and we WILL get relegated if this carries on.

I thought either 352 with O’Hora on the right or Rocky on for miller in a straight swap

[McGruber]

That didn't happen. Hibs didn't sit back at all today. We tried to win it. What subs would've made us better?


It absolutely happened. Got to about 70 mins and we started to retreat deeper. United were getting on the ball, midfield were looking leggy. It was becoming more open and space opening up. We never looked like getting a second. Myko up top on his own was ineffective, never looked like scoring. That's the time we needed to put Youan on. Said watching it he wouldn't until the inevitable United goal when it would be too late. He tried to hold what we had when Youan gives them something to think about and defend against. Put him on and go for it. Put him up with Myko. Affect the game. Just took far too long and was too little too late.

['mon the beers]

Gray took an age to make the subs and when he did they were forced upon him with the sending off. Just poor management yet again, players had ran their socks off but Triantis, Newell, Hoilett and Myko were done about an hour or so in and it needed freshened up.

Triantis had a pretty poor game and Myko is not doing the job he is supposed to do as link up play non existent and never in the right place when a cross comes in. I think we have the players to move to 352 and it might be worth a try given the results have been missing playing 433 and 4231.

[NC1875]

We were fine today and done by refs. Give David a chance. That decision could get him sacked.

Give him a chance ? 😂

He’s had more lives than a cat. Every game a must win beforehand yet we fail to win and people want to give him another one.

Deluded

[Real Emerald]

I thought either 352 with O’Hora on the right or Rocky on for miller in a straight swap

Boyle was left on his own with no one else to help on the right side. It wasn’t the cause of getting done with the penalty though so my point isn’t relevant to that. We could and should have pressed and scored more and not leave us in that position again. Our lack of urgency all over the park is unacceptable and that’s down to the manager. We played nice football today, probably the best this season but we still can’t hurt teams and eventually concede to a very poor Utd team, Frustrating

[One Day Soon]

We've played 11 games and won one of them. IDK but 'one off' mistakes, refereeing decisions, VAR decisions, red cards, misses in front of goal, defensive errors, strange substitutions, strange team selections and a bunch of other things seem to have costs us a lot of points very consistently for a third of the season already...

[Hiber-nation]

It absolutely happened. Got to about 70 mins and we started to retreat deeper. United were getting on the ball, midfield were looking leggy. It was becoming more open and space opening up. We never looked like getting a second. Myko up top on his own was ineffective, never looked like scoring. That's the time we needed to put Youan on. Said watching it he wouldn't until the inevitable United goal when it would be too late. He tried to hold what we had when Youan gives them something to think about and defend against. Put him on and go for it. Put him up with Myko. Affect the game. Just took far too long and was too little too late.

Absolutely. He had to make the subs earlier. Who knows how it would have panned out but we weren't looking remotely like scoring. First half was very good as well. We're not far away but the lack of a decent centre forward is costing us big time now we seem to have sorted the defence.

[JimBHibees]

What a load of absolute nonsense. We played nice patters of football but never hurt them. We then allowed them to get back into the game, lost our right back due to injury and inexplicably went to a back three with no right back leaving Martin Boyle not knowing what he was doing. Everyone in the stadium knew we were going to concede late on. If that’s playing well, it just shows how pish we’ve become, we are rank rotten, one win all season FFS, it’s awful football.

We were fine hysterical hyperbole to say we weren’t. We were so comfortable and they were only scoring with a pen.

[Donegal Hibby]

Has Gray commented on the game yet?

Just after watching this , hard to disagree with what he says ….

https://x.com/HibernianFC/status/1853144371320721698?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

[Springbank]

We've played 11 games and won one of them. IDK but 'one off' mistakes, refereeing decisions, VAR decisions, red cards, misses in front of goal, defensive errors, strange substitutions, strange team selections and a bunch of other things seem to have costs us a lot of points very consistently for a third of the season already...

Another viewpoint is Gray is,steadying the ship, 3 matches unbeaten, and will be 7 in a row unbeaten by the time we open the advent calendar....

[Hillsidehibby]

352 1234 678 We dont have a ****ing clue what to play.

[JimBHibees]

Ref decided nothing mate - you think that goes through his head in any professional sport!

We allowed a bad decsion to have a huge impact on a match we were miles ahead because our play is boring and one dimensional.

Did this ref decide in August that Hibs should be bottom? Did the other refs decide to send Newell off for no reason a few weeks ago..all very weird conspiracy
We were better than a poor Dundee Utd team….we didn’t blow them away.

Jeezo complete guff

[kentao]

We were magnificent. 👍

Thought we played well today and dominated large parts of the game. Defence coped with Middleton a lot better and limited them to very little in terms of chances and possession. For most of the first half Dundee United struggled to get out of their half as we had them pegged back. we got our self into a few good positions but the final ball was lacking.

SDG must be scunnered with the refereeing decisions and being let down by players he should really be able to trust. Hopefully things start to go in his favour and manages to string a few positive results together and make his position safe.

[Cabbage-Patch]

Find it absolutely incredible that some on here think we played well today. Not our worst performance from a defence perspective and certainly the better team against a very very poor utd team. We limited them to a couple half chances but going forward we are absolutely eye bleeding. Slow and tepid with very little quality. Lost count of the amount of times our final ball was scooped up by the utd defence. Hoilett the only pass however can see clearly dosent have the legs anymore and was burst after an hour.

Boyle looks a shadow of the player he was before we went to Qatar and another fairly anonymous performance Newell. 200 appearances for the club and lucky if he turns up for 1 in 5 games IMO.

Yes the penalty was harsh and but we should have put them to sword long before that penalty was given. Another late goal lost and teams above us pulling away.

Don't see the point waiting until the international break as next week will just inevitably be more points dropped. He needs to go now.

[mcfly]

At the game today

My take is newell is no leader - how many times will we lose late goals.
Would not have happened under yogi

Boyle his pace is gone. Can’t beat a man now

We defended well for 80 mins but the team is so fragile and have no confidence to see a game out. Definitely in a relegation battle unless we stop losing late goals.

Dundee Utd were awful and crazy how they are 8-10 points above us

[JimBHibees]

Give him a chance ? 😂

He’s had more lives than a cat. Every game a must win beforehand yet we fail to win and people want to give him another one.

Deluded

So 11 games is a chance dear oh dear. We looked solid today could have been more composed in possession but clearly should have won A wee bit of support would be good.

[Murphys Touch]

Just after watching this , hard to disagree with what he says ….

https://x.com/HibernianFC/status/1853144371320721698?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

I don’t think you’re you’re can…..but bad decisions happen to everyone. If the last 11 games are better, then you deal with it. Must win game, not won

As a rank average golfer, the saying “no pictures on the scorecard” come to mind. We are bottom after a third of the season, we are not changing a team of players anytime soon so David’s on a hiding to nothing.

Our major concern is Malky stepping in as the board have shown that they are not listening to BK. That’s the other saving grace for DG…Malky won’t have the players playing for him

[JimBHibees]

At the game today

My take is newell is no leader - how many times will we lose late goals.
Would not have happened under yogi

Boyle his pace is gone. Can’t beat a man now

We defended well for 80 mins but the team is so fragile and have no confidence to see a game out. Definitely in a relegation battle unless we stop losing late goals.

Dundee Utd were awful and crazy how they are 8-10 points above us

We got relegated under Yogi

[Albahibs]

We were fine hysterical hyperbole to say we weren’t. We were so comfortable and they were only scoring with a pen.

Dundee United never looked like scoring, unless the match officials intervened, and handed them a penalty on a plate.

Until the match officials did just that, we were looking extremely comfortable to see the match out to a deserved win.

Can't blame David Gray for the draw, when we were easily the better side, and I thought the central defensive pairing were excellent today.

[JimBHibees]

I don’t think you’re you’re can…..but bad decisions happen to everyone. If the last 11 games are better, then you deal with it. Must win game, not won

As a rank average golfer, the saying “no pictures on the scorecard” come to mind. We are bottom after a third of the season, we are not changing a team of players anytime soon so David’s on a hiding to nothing.

Our major concern is Malky stepping in as the board have shown that they are not listening to BK. That’s the other saving grace for DG…Malky won’t have the players playing for him

How would you possibly know that?

[JimBHibees]

Dundee United never looked like scoring, unless the match officials intervened, and handed them a penalty on a plate.

Until the match officials did just that, we were looking extremely comfortable to see the match out to a deserved win.

Can't blame David Gray for the draw, when we were easily the better side, and I thought the central defensive pairing were excellent today.

Completely agree

[Murphys Touch]

We got relegated under Yogi

To quote you in one of my posts

Jeezo, complete guff

[Chorley Hibee]

It absolutely happened. Got to about 70 mins and we started to retreat deeper. United were getting on the ball, midfield were looking leggy. It was becoming more open and space opening up. We never looked like getting a second. Myko up top on his own was ineffective, never looked like scoring. That's the time we needed to put Youan on. Said watching it he wouldn't until the inevitable United goal when it would be too late. He tried to hold what we had when Youan gives them something to think about and defend against. Put him on and go for it. Put him up with Myko. Affect the game. Just took far too long and was too little too late.

Exactly how I saw the game too.

Yes, we've been done over by another dodgy decision, but, once again, we've been our own worst enemy by inviting pressure upon ourselves in the closing stages.

It's happened once too often for it to be anything other than dreadful game management.

[Murphys Touch]

How would you possibly know that?

I don’t - just my opinion.

But he’s told 10-11 of them to F off at the start of the season, fans don’t want/like him so I’m guessing.

Just like you did when you said Yogi relegated us - he got us into Europe

[NC1875]

So 11 games is a chance dear oh dear. We looked solid today could have been more composed in possession but clearly should have won A wee bit of support would be good.

11 league games. Remember the league cup ? And the mighty Kelly hearts ?

He’s shown already he doesn’t have a clue. You’re hoping he can turn it around because of who he is. There are no positives, none.

Bottom of the league almost a third into the season and people wanting him to get more time. Jeezo!

[SeanWilson]

We got relegated under Yogi

No, we didn’t.

[wookie70]

I don't think we did much wrong today. We pressed far better. Had a decent shape until Miller got injured and for the most part we defended really well. We are poor in teh final third but we got a good goal and did but some decent bits of play together

I was sat in the Directors area today and Cadden and Gayle sat behind me and it would have been a pretty easy game to manage if they were on the bench. As it was we didn't have an option to play right back, apart from maybe Rocky, and SDG went 343. Boyle up to that point hadn't been in the game but he then lost any attacking threat and struggled down that side. We had Cadden and Rudi waiting to come on for five minutes before they scored but never got the chance to make the change.

I always think you can tell when players want the manager sacked. It was obvious with Calderwood and Butcher. Regardless of the result the way we went after them with 10 men and the huge disappointment of their equaliser says to me the squad is behind SDG and do have a bit about them. The issue is we simply don't have a decent centre forward and our wingers are not contributing at the moment. If Bowie had stayed fit I think we are a different side but he is out and we need to find a way of starting to hold the ball and score more regularly. I wonder if Youan could do a job the at the back.

To me our biggest issue is centre forward. We desperately need to be looking at bringing someone in during the window. I'd also be get Megwa back

[B.H.F.C]

So 11 games is a chance dear oh dear. We looked solid today could have been more composed in possession but clearly should have won A wee bit of support would be good.

There hasn’t been any lack of support. The support is actually holding up remarkably well in the circumstances. Any other manager would be getting slaughtered in the stadium, he’s not because of who he is despite it clearly not working.

[GreenCastle]

Dundee United never looked like scoring, unless the match officials intervened, and handed them a penalty on a plate.

Until the match officials did just that, we were looking extremely comfortable to see the match out to a deserved win.

Can't blame David Gray for the draw, when we were easily the better side, and I thought the central defensive pairing were excellent today.

They did have a good chance at 1-0 which just went wide past post.

[GreenCastle]

I don't think we did much wrong today. We pressed far better. Had a decent shape until Miller got injured and for the most part we defended really well. We are poor in teh final third but we got a good goal and did but some decent bits of play together

I was sat in the Directors area today and Cadden and Gayle sat behind me and it would have been a pretty easy game to manage if they were on the bench. As it was we didn't have an option to play right back, apart from maybe Rocky, and SDG went 343. Boyle up to that point hadn't been in the game but he then lost any attacking threat and struggled down that side. We had Cadden and Rudi waiting to come on for five minutes before they scored but never got the chance to make the change.

I always think you can tell when players want the manager sacked. It was obvious with Calderwood and Butcher. Regardless of the result the way we went after them with 10 men and the huge disappointment of their equaliser says to me the squad is behind SDG and do have a bit about them. The issue is we simply don't have a decent centre forward and our wingers are not contributing at the moment. If Bowie had stayed fit I think we are a different side but he is out and we need to find a way of starting to hold the ball and score more regularly. I wonder if Youan could do a job the at the back.

To me our biggest issue is centre forward. We desperately need to be looking at bringing someone in during the window. I'd also be get Megwa back

Lack of a decent GK back up
No right backs - possibly 2 injured
Limited central midfielders
No proper number 10
Myko now suspended/ Gayle and Bowie injured

The squad balance is just weird.

[MWHIBBIES]

It absolutely happened. Got to about 70 mins and we started to retreat deeper. United were getting on the ball, midfield were looking leggy. It was becoming more open and space opening up. We never looked like getting a second. Myko up top on his own was ineffective, never looked like scoring. That's the time we needed to put Youan on. Said watching it he wouldn't until the inevitable United goal when it would be too late. He tried to hold what we had when Youan gives them something to think about and defend against. Put him on and go for it. Put him up with Myko. Affect the game. Just took far too long and was too little too late.

We were not defending deeper. Rewatch the match. Still defending 40 yards from out goal last 20 minutes.

[Badge]

We got relegated under Yogi

What season was that?

[Hillsidehibby]

We are pish and we're going to get relegated. I'm already looking forward to winning the Scottish Cup in 2026.

[Real Emerald]

We were fine hysterical hyperbole to say we weren’t. We were so comfortable and they were only scoring with a pen.

We were fine and comfortable and yet still managed to let them come on to us and lose another late goal. If we stay as fine as this all season we’ll be relegated, you really need to up your expectations of Hibernian FC, we should be so much better than this.

I agree we played decent football today but we blew it AGAIN.

[Donegal Hibby]

I don’t think you’re you’re can…..but bad decisions happen to everyone. If the last 11 games are better, then you deal with it. Must win game, not won

As a rank average golfer, the saying “no pictures on the scorecard” come to mind. We are bottom after a third of the season, we are not changing a team of players anytime soon so David’s on a hiding to nothing.

Our major concern is Malky stepping in as the board have shown that they are not listening to BK. That’s the other saving grace for DG…Malky won’t have the players playing for him

Bad decisions happen to everyone.. really? . We have had more than our fair share of them over the last few seasons , some of which are unexplainable….

Fair enough if VAR / Referee decided that it was a penalty for Myko holding the boys shirt though not to give one for exactly the same offence minutes later is unbelievable…

Gray certainly is on a hiding to nothing if the rules of the game are going to be applied differently to his team alright…

[Hiber-nation]

What season was that?

97-98. He was talking about captain, not manager.

[Trinity Hibee]

Hibernian head coach David Gray: "Hugely frustrating. My biggest concern is the decision to award the penalty in the first place. The players didn't deserve that.
"We were by far the better team. We deserved to win the game. It's a decision that's cost us the game.
"You can't appeal a yellow card. It's a second yellow for something that, in my opinion, is the wrong decision. The level of performance the players put in, they didn't deserve it.

[MWHIBBIES]

Hibernian head coach David Gray: "Hugely frustrating. My biggest concern is the decision to award the penalty in the first place. The players didn't deserve that.
"We were by far the better team. We deserved to win the game. It's a decision that's cost us the game.
"You can't appeal a yellow card. It's a second yellow for something that, in my opinion, is the wrong decision. The level of performance the players put in, they didn't deserve it.

He's spot on.

[DH1875]

I'm still non the wiser if it was a penalty or not. Will reserve judgement on today till I find out one way another as thought we were generally OK.

[GreenCastle]

We were not defending deeper. Rewatch the match. Still defending 40 yards from out goal last 20 minutes.

We were looking tired - Newell could hardly run.

The energy was low in the team and we were definitely dropping deeper than 1st half.

Players have had 3 games in 7 days including a Derby and an away game up north.

[GreenCastle]

I'm still non the wiser if it was a penalty or not. Will reserve judgement on today till I find out one way another as thought we were generally OK.

Dundee Utd penalty -

https://x.com/craigbryandavid/status/1853118181084185035?s=46

[B.H.F.C]

They did have a good chance at 1-0 which just went wide past post.

Forgot all about that, was the only real clear cut chance in the whole second half. For all the ball we had, I don’t think the goalie had a save to make.

[LaMotta]

I'm still non the wiser if it was a penalty or not. Will reserve judgement on today till I find out one way another as thought we were generally OK.

Highlights come online after Sportscene is finished usually so will find out soon enough.

[Murphys Touch]

Bad decisions happen to everyone.. really? . We have had more than our fair share of them over the last few seasons , some of which are unexplainable….

Fair enough if VAR / Referee decided that it was a penalty for Myko holding the boys shirt though not to give one for exactly the same offence minutes later is unbelievable…

Gray certainly is on a hiding to nothing if the rules of the game are going to be applied differently to his team alright…

If his teams continue to “blow” others away but only do so with a one goal advantage then we’ll go down.

Lee Johnson is the example here. “Streaky” may have been his nickname but winning games gets you out the ****. Not creating enough chances to “blow” teams away is a coaching problem

Nowt to do with refs and Hibs being the worst victim of crap refereeing. IF (and a big IF) we are…then go score 2/3 in games we are “miles” ahead in. That is something we can control

Excuses

[B.H.F.C]

We were looking tired - Newell could hardly run.

The energy was low in the team and we were definitely dropping deeper than 1st half.

Players have had 3 games in 7 days including a Derby and an away game up north.

We needed fresh legs on quicker. Newell was done, Triantis had cramp at one point, Boyle was struggling as well.

[babahibs]

He's spot on.

He is.

We've played well enough today and deserved the 3 points only to be robbed at the end.

I wonder what he said to the ref on the pitch at the end, he must've wanted to punch the wee cheat.

[hibee_girl]

Hibernian head coach David Gray: "Hugely frustrating. My biggest concern is the decision to award the penalty in the first place. The players didn't deserve that.
"We were by far the better team. We deserved to win the game. It's a decision that's cost us the game.
"You can't appeal a yellow card. It's a second yellow for something that, in my opinion, is the wrong decision. The level of performance the players put in, they didn't deserve it.

Can’t argue with any of that

[Tyler Durden]

We were looking tired - Newell could hardly run.

The energy was low in the team and we were definitely dropping deeper than 1st half.

Players have had 3 games in 7 days including a Derby and an away game up north.

3 games in a week is a pathetic excuse. Newell in particular showed a complete lack of composure and quality, never mind leadership.

For those claiming we were never in any danger, how/why did we keep conceding free kicks in and around our box?

We are an awful team and Gray is learning nothing. Where was the urgency to get a 2nd goal? Surely everyone in the ground knew we needed a 2nd goal.

[McGruber]

We were not defending deeper. Rewatch the match. Still defending 40 yards from out goal last 20 minutes.

The whole team was deeper. United in that period never looked like scoring though same time you knew they inevitably would

Out of interest - who do you think looked more likely to win it after the penalty and throughout injury time?

I thought Hibs looked more likely. Was that because Youan and Molotnikov gave us fresh legs and an attacking threat? Was it that we attacked more in search of a winner? Certainly pushed higher - Ekpiteta was collecting balls on the right wing at the death. Whatever it was there was more intent to go on for another goal at 1-1 than there was at 1-0, which is my point. He never went out to push for the 2nd at 1-0, he tried to keep it as it was. Changes, be it personnel or team pushing further up, came too late.

Game was billed as a must win and we never won. Will be the same next week with accompanying hard luck story.

[JimBHibees]

We were fine and comfortable and yet still managed to let them come on to us and lose another late goal. If we stay as fine as this all season we’ll be relegated, you really need to up your expectations of Hibernian FC, we should be so much better than this.

I agree we played decent football today but we blew it AGAIN.

Not at all patronising. We didnt blow it of course

[Tyler Durden]

The whole team was deeper. United in that period never looked like scoring though same time you knew they inevitably would

Out of interest - who do you think looked more likely to win it after the penalty and throughout injury time?

I thought Hibs looked more likely. Was that because Youan and Molotnikov gave us fresh legs and an attacking threat? Was it that we attacked more in search of a winner? Certainly pushed higher - Ekpiteta was collecting balls on the right wing at the death. Whatever it was there was more intent to go on for another goal at 1-1 than there was at 1-0, which is my point. He never went out to push for the 2nd at 1-0, he tried to keep it as it was. Changes, be it personnel or team pushing further up, came too late.

Game was billed as a must win and we never won. Will be the same next week with accompanying hard luck story.

Spot on.

[Real Emerald]

The whole team was deeper. United in that period never looked like scoring though same time you knew they inevitably would

Out of interest - who do you think looked more likely to win it after the penalty and throughout injury time?

I thought Hibs looked more likely. Was that because Youan and Molotnikov gave us fresh legs and an attacking threat? Was it that we attacked more in search of a winner? Certainly pushed higher - Ekpiteta was collecting balls on the right wing at the death. Whatever it was there was more intent to go on for another goal at 1-1 than there was at 1-0, which is my point. He never went out to push for the 2nd at 1-0, he tried to keep it as it was. Changes, be it personnel or team pushing further up, came too late.

Game was billed as a must win and we never won. Will be the same next week with accompanying hard luck story.

I totally agree with you, we were so much on top we really should have pushed our advantage as the longer it went everyone knew they would get a goal. The urgency isn’t there when we’re in control and if it was we’d have been out of sight,

[Murphys Touch]

The whole team was deeper. United in that period never looked like scoring though same time you knew they inevitably would

Out of interest - who do you think looked more likely to win it after the penalty and throughout injury time?

I thought Hibs looked more likely. Was that because Youan and Molotnikov gave us fresh legs and an attacking threat? Was it that we attacked more in search of a winner? Certainly pushed higher - Ekpiteta was collecting balls on the right wing at the death. Whatever it was there was more intent to go on for another goal at 1-1 than there was at 1-0, which is my point. He never went out to push for the 2nd at 1-0, he tried to keep it as it was. Changes, be it personnel or team pushing further up, came too late.

Game was billed as a must win and we never won. Will be the same next week with accompanying hard luck story.
But but we were “miles” ahead

Great post - our coaching staff do not positively impact a game in the dying stages….when it is their biggest impactful time.

0-9 after 80 mins…game management. Anyone other than SDG would be getting slaughtered

[LaMotta]

Dundee Utd penalty -

https://x.com/craigbryandavid/status/1853118181084185035?s=46

Myko gives them an excuse to give it.:brickwall

[MWHIBBIES]

The whole team was deeper. United in that period never looked like scoring though same time you knew they inevitably would

Out of interest - who do you think looked more likely to win it after the penalty and throughout injury time?

I thought Hibs looked more likely. Was that because Youan and Molotnikov gave us fresh legs and an attacking threat? Was it that we attacked more in search of a winner? Certainly pushed higher - Ekpiteta was collecting balls on the right wing at the death. Whatever it was there was more intent to go on for another goal at 1-1 than there was at 1-0, which is my point. He never went out to push for the 2nd at 1-0, he tried to keep it as it was. Changes, be it personnel or team pushing further up, came too late.

Game was billed as a must win and we never won. Will be the same next week with accompanying hard luck story.

It's because we were by far the better team from minute 1. Only way they were scoring is if ref did it for them. Which he did. We continued being far better after the goal.

[Real Emerald]

Not at all patronising. We didnt blow it of course

We didn’t blow it due to the ridiculous penalty but we didn’t put them away as usual. We can talk about this in the Championship if that’s what good performances are. We’re done if this continues, no team survives when you can’t win games.

[Donegal Hibby]

If his teams continue to “blow” others away but only do so with a one goal advantage then we’ll go down.

Lee Johnson is the example here. “Streaky” may have been his nickname but winning games gets you out the ****. Not creating enough chances to “blow” teams away is a coaching problem

Nowt to do with refs and Hibs being the worst victim of crap refereeing. IF (and a big IF) we are…then go score 2/3 in games we are “miles” ahead in. That is something we can control

Excuses

Nowt to do with Refs ? Did you not see the two incidents today? .. teams don’t always score 2/3 goals , look at Aberdeen this season .

They have grinded out plenty of victories by a single goal margin … and that game today we played well in where they didn’t look like they where going to score until the referee decided to bail them out and deny us .. totally corrupt is what it is .

[Badge]

97-98. He was talking about captain, not manager.

Ok. A wee bit puzzled because the discussion has been around the manager. A bit unusual for a captain to be blamed.

[B.H.F.C]

Just seen it back and it’s stupid and unnecessary.

How they decide that needs reviewed but the one on O’Hora up the other end needs explaining though.

[Tyler Durden]

Hibernian head coach David Gray: "Hugely frustrating. My biggest concern is the decision to award the penalty in the first place. The players didn't deserve that.
"We were by far the better team. We deserved to win the game. It's a decision that's cost us the game.
"You can't appeal a yellow card. It's a second yellow for something that, in my opinion, is the wrong decision. The level of performance the players put in, they didn't deserve it.

“The level of performance…”.

Doesn’t feel great to slate SDG, but this is a nonsense. He’s convinced himself that we’re playing well and just unlucky. One win will change things etc.

How about driving some standards…. It was an average performance against a team who didn’t show up for the first 70 mins.

[McGruber]

It's because we were by far the better team from minute 1. Only way they were scoring is if ref did it for them. Which he did. We continued being far better after the goal.

I agree mate, think we were the better team throughout. Also don't think it was a penalty. Doesn't matter, 1 goal for us proved not to be enough...it rarely is. Never at any point felt like 1 goal would be enough - and couldn't see us scoring again, up until we were rolling the dice after the penalty

[MWHIBBIES]

“The level of performance…”.

Doesn’t feel great to slate SDG, but this is a nonsense. He’s convinced himself that we’re playing well and just unlucky. One win will change things etc.

How about driving some standards…. It was an average performance against a team who didn’t show up for the first 70 mins.

Hibs stopped them showing up by out working then all over the pitch. Gray is correct for today's match.

[Tyler Durden]

Hibs stopped them showing up by out working then all over the pitch. Gray is correct for today's match.

Nah. They made a number of unforced errors.

A good level of performance would have punished them in the first half and scored at least 2 goals. They were never going to be so poor in the second half and indeed they missed a great chance within 10/15 mins of the restart.

Second half, how many times did Triantis and Newell lose the ball or panic unnecessarily? Boyle giving away needless fouls…. This was not a high level performance by any means

[Real Emerald]

“The level of performance…”.

Doesn’t feel great to slate SDG, but this is a nonsense. He’s convinced himself that we’re playing well and just unlucky. One win will change things etc.

How about driving some standards…. It was an average performance against a team who didn’t show up for the first 70 mins.

Exactly this 💯. Dundee United were garbage but we failed, despite some neat football to put them away. Accepting this performance as being good is everything that’s wrong with Hibs. We could and should have destroyed them today but we were meek and indecisive and allowed a pish team to get a foothold back into the game.

[Murphys Touch]

Exactly this 💯. Dundee United were garbage but we failed, despite some neat football to put them away. Accepting this performance as being good is everything that’s wrong with Hibs. We could and should have destroyed them today but we were meek and indecisive and allowed a pish team to get a foothold back into the game.

Careful now - some say that’s the refs fault

[B.H.F.C]

Nah. They made a number of unforced errors.

A good level of performance would have punished them in the first half and scored at least 2 goals. They were never going to be so poor in the second half and indeed they missed a great chance within 10/15 mins of the restart.

Second half, how many times did Triantis and Newell lose the ball or panic unnecessarily? Boyle giving away needless fouls…. This was not a high level performance by any means

For all the ball we had, we did pretty much nothing in the second half other than put a lot of crosses in and force a lot of corners. We rarely look like scoring a goal.

[Dashing Bob S]

Exactly this 💯. Dundee United were garbage but we failed, despite some neat football to put them away. Accepting this performance as being good is everything that’s wrong with Hibs. We could and should have destroyed them today but we were meek and indecisive and allowed a pish team to get a foothold back into the game.

This is right on the money and so much the story of the last few seasons. We can keep deluding ourselves that playing the better football gives you a free pass from being weak and indecisive. We don’t have enough leaders and winners in our squad.

[Murphys Touch]

For all the ball we had, we did pretty much nothing in the second half other than put a lot of crosses in and force a lot of corners. We rarely look like scoring a goal.

We were excellent though….”a joy to watch” as someone else said

Bang average against a gash team.

[GreenCastle]

Exactly this 💯. Dundee United were garbage but we failed, despite some neat football to put them away. Accepting this performance as being good is everything that’s wrong with Hibs. We could and should have destroyed them today but we were meek and indecisive and allowed a pish team to get a foothold back into the game.

Really good post.

Same with the Derby - should have won that if we were just bit better.

Utd got bood off at half time and the my were the quietest away support this season until the penalty.

We needed a 2nd goal but just couldn’t produce any quality in the next 70 mins of play.

[JimBHibees]

For all the ball we had, we did pretty much nothing in the second half other than put a lot of crosses in and force a lot of corners. We rarely look like scoring a goal.

Us not winning is clearly the officials fault

[Donegal Hibby]

Us not winning is clearly the officials fault

:agree:

[B.H.F.C]

Us not winning is clearly the officials fault

Having watched us all season I find it difficult, at the moment, to feel too hard done by. It’s our fault we are where we are.

More annoyed about the penalty we didn’t get than the one against us. If you’re stupid enough to pull a jersey in the box at that stage you run the risk. It’s pot luck what they act on and what they don’t.

Per my original post that you responded to, if we continue to be as toothless going forward we ain’t getting away from trouble any time soon.

[K-Zazu]

Joint lowest goal scorers in this league is unforgivable. It’s relegation material let’s be honest.

[mcfly]

We got relegated under Yogi

When he was our captain??

[mcfly]

3 games in a week is a pathetic excuse. Newell in particular showed a complete lack of composure and quality, never mind leadership.

For those claiming we were never in any danger, how/why did we keep conceding free kicks in and around our box?

We are an awful team and Gray is learning nothing. Where was the urgency to get a 2nd goal? Surely everyone in the ground knew we needed a 2nd goal.

Totally agree - we are awful.

Very slow, predictable and lack of any class in the team.

Highly paid players - none of which would get anywhere near the team 4-5 yrs ago.

This is what you get with years of poor recruitment- it’s a relegation battle we are in. No doubt about it.

[Unseen work]

Joint lowest goal scorers in this league is unforgivable. It’s relegation material let’s be honest.

We have relegation all over us

Lowest scorers
Concede late goals every week
Keeper that doesn’t inspire confidence

[Tyler Durden]

We have relegation all over us

Lowest scorers
Concede late goals every week
Keeper that doesn’t inspire confidence

Regular red cards

[Alfred E Newman]

I suppose seeing out the additional 13 mins without conceding this time and mostly in their half is one positive but overall it was another poor performance though yet another game we should have won. Somewhere along the line we have got to start winning these sort of games or we are heading for disaster.

[Lago]

:top marks
Exactly this 💯. Dundee United were garbage but we failed, despite some neat football to put them away. Accepting this performance as being good is everything that’s wrong with Hibs. We could and should have destroyed them today but we were meek and indecisive and allowed a pish team to get a foothold back into the game.

[hibee1875]

Regular red cards

Too many big players not performing

[One Day Soon]

Another viewpoint is Gray is,steadying the ship, 3 matches unbeaten, and will be 7 in a row unbeaten by the time we open the advent calendar....

That’s less of a viewpoint and more of a football suicide note. We’re bottom of the league.

[HibeeMackenzie]

Myko gives them an excuse to give it.:brickwall

Did derby not give them an excuse to give it 2 minutes later?

[Nicho87]

Just watched Goodwins sky interview

Foolish man

Said if your going to tug a shirt on the box your running the risk so correct call for United penalty

But says for Ohora ah we have an iPad an we all agreed it wasn’t a penalty.

What a tool

[tamig]

Just watched Goodwins sky interview

Foolish man

Said if your going to tug a shirt on the box your running the risk so correct call for United penalty

But says for Ohora ah we have an iPad an we all agreed it wasn’t a penalty.

What a tool

I cannot stand the man. How that team are fourth in the league is anybody's guess. It just shows how utterly rank we've been so far. Should have been 6 points from our two recent games against them. Gray's indecision and delays today with the substitutions cost us dear. He needs to take a good look at that.

[LaMotta]

Did derby not give them an excuse to give it 2 minutes later?

You are right he did but the officials shafted us.

[wookie70]

We have relegation all over us

Lowest scorers
Concede late goals every week
Keeper that doesn’t inspire confidence

Alternatively we have lost 12 points from goals after 80 minutes. If we can see out games we would be well up the league. Bizarrely I think the period after Utd equalised today have given me more hope than I have had for weeks. We showed attacking intent, a bit of courage and lots of heart. If we had showed that in previous games we would be nowhere near the bottom of teh league. Sometimes injustice can be a very big motivator.

[JohnM1875]

Alternatively we have lost 12 points from goals after 80 minutes. If we can see out games we would be well up the league. Bizarrely I think the period after Utd equalised today have given me more hope than I have had for weeks. We showed attacking intent, a bit of courage and lots of heart. If we had showed that in previous games we would be nowhere near the bottom of teh league. Sometimes injustice can be a very big motivator.

What about the 10 minutes leading up to that where pretty much everyone in the stadium knew they were going to equalise?

[Chorley Hibee]

Alternatively we have lost 12 points from goals after 80 minutes. If we can see out games we would be well up the league. Bizarrely I think the period after Utd equalised today have given me more hope than I have had for weeks. We showed attacking intent, a bit of courage and lots of heart. If we had showed that in previous games we would be nowhere near the bottom of teh league. Sometimes injustice can be a very big motivator.

If we'd shown that intent prior to them equalising, perhaps we would have wrapped up the game long before we inevitably invited trouble upon ourselves.

[Callum_62]

What about the 10 minutes leading up to that where pretty much everyone in the stadium knew they were going to equalise?I was there and I certainly didn't. Well, not from what I seen anyway - they barely had a chance right up until they got the penalty

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[JohnM1875]

I was there and I certainly didn't. Well, not from what I seen anyway - they barely had a chance right up until they got the penalty

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Surprised at that. They were basically camped in our half and chucking balls into the box. We were then panicking and just launching it back to them.

I promise I'm not being dramatic, but the folk round me were all talking about when, not if they equalise.

[Callum_62]

Surprised at that. They were basically camped in our half and chucking balls into the box. We were then panicking and just launching it back to them.

I promise I'm not being dramatic, but the folk round me were all talking about when, not if they equalise.The only thing I noted was whoever they played up top (think it was a sub) started to give Marv a run for his money in the air

They put 5 upfront and ofcourse they won the odd flick etc but the only chance I mind them having was bubunskis bad miss soon after HT

Taking the "Hibs fan" syndrome out of it as, we all know we thought it - but what was happening on the pitch didn't match that imo.

We weren't hanging on, or sitting in I don't think anyway

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[Pagan Hibernia]

We have relegation all over us

Lowest scorers
Concede late goals every week
Keeper that doesn’t inspire confidence

Most teams that are certainties for relegation get hammered every week. We're frustrated every week by throwing away points late on that we should have had in the bag earlier.

We're bottom 6 material for sure, but I don't see us going down.

[MWHIBBIES]

What about the 10 minutes leading up to that where pretty much everyone in the stadium knew they were going to equalise?

No one that was facing the pitch should've been thinking that. Referee made up a penalty. Otherwise they could still be playing and wouldn't have scored.

[FastEddieFelson]

Most teams that are certainties for relegation get hammered every week. We're frustrated every week by throwing away points late on that we should have had in the bag earlier.

We're bottom 6 material for sure, but I don't see us going down.

Problem is there isn't a team getting hammered every week. There is no Livingston this season. Bottom six is going to be very tight.

[GreenCastle]

Most teams that are certainties for relegation get hammered every week. We're frustrated every week by throwing away points late on that we should have had in the bag earlier.

We're bottom 6 material for sure, but I don't see us going down.

Think this will be one of the tightest seasons ever for relegation.

The worst team we have played we beat 2-0 but they currently have 2 more points than us and played a game extra.

We are miles off it and I’m not sure why people are still thinking all will be ok. It’s like they just watch highlights and see our occasional chances but rarely watch full games or games in person.

[flash]

Surprised at that. They were basically camped in our half and chucking balls into the box. We were then panicking and just launching it back to them.

I promise I'm not being dramatic, but the folk round me were all talking about when, not if they equalise.

Must have been two games yesterday as that wasn't the one I watched.

[McGruber]

Must have been two games yesterday as that wasn't the one I watched.

Hope you got to see a win in your one 😂

[flash]

Hope you got to see a win in your one 😂

Aye we won 2-1 with a last minute penalty........

[Coco Bryce]

Hope you got to see a win in your one 😂

:greengrin

[flash]

A wee positive from yesterday was the back four limiting the opposition to next to nothing really.

Big Marv is an absolute warrior and O'Hora actually looked quite comfortable over on the right when he switched.

Bursik didn't really have anything to do so no worries there either.

[JimBHibees]

A wee positive from yesterday was the back four limiting the opposition to next to nothing really.

Big Marv is an absolute warrior and O'Hora actually looked quite comfortable over on the right when he switched.

Bursik didn't really have anything to do so no worries there either.

Think Marv is getting better every game

[tamig]

Think Marv is getting better every game

Big man was excellent yesterday. My MOTM by far.

[FastEddieFelson]

A wee positive from yesterday was the back four limiting the opposition to next to nothing really.

Big Marv is an absolute warrior and O'Hora actually looked quite comfortable over on the right when he switched.

Bursik didn't really have anything to do so no worries there either.

Yep, Iredale looked good as well.

[McGruber]

A wee positive from yesterday was the back four limiting the opposition to next to nothing really.

Big Marv is an absolute warrior and O'Hora actually looked quite comfortable over on the right when he switched.

Bursik didn't really have anything to do so no worries there either.

Do agree with this. Big Marv has been excellent and defensive unit has been much improved all round.

We'll need 2 up next week without a target man, great chance to go a 3 to get O'Hora on the right, Iredale on the left. Hopefully Miller or Cadden fit for right wing back with Obita left.

We create next to nothing though.

[Steve20]

People can't be serious if they think we played well yesterday. If that's the accepted level of playing well, people are obviously easily pleased.

That performance might have been slightly better than recent ones, but was still not acceptable for a club wanting to be top 6.

[Jones28]

People can't be serious if they think we played well yesterday. If that's the accepted level of playing well, people are obviously easily pleased.

That performance might have been slightly better than recent ones, but was still not acceptable for a club wanting to be top 6.

If we hadn't had a shocker of a decision go against us we would be talking very differently.

We didn't, I appreciate, but it's one decision made by VAR that has cost us 2 points yesterday.

Easily pleased in the context of where we are, I absolutely would have been described as easily pleased if we'd won yesterday, I still am to some extent as I think we are improving defensively and no one would have begrudged us the win if we'd not been diddled by VAR.

[we are hibs]

I thought we played well first half.


I thought the second half we weren't as good but had probably done enough to win the game. Dundee Utd were dreadful. I think the standard of Scottish football since Covid has been pretty poor outside of Celtic tbh. Genuinely good end to end games are becoming more of a rarity.

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[He's here!]

People can't be serious if they think we played well yesterday. If that's the accepted level of playing well, people are obviously easily pleased.

That performance might have been slightly better than recent ones, but was still not acceptable for a club wanting to be top 6.

10th is the target right now, not top 6. Get out of the bottom two and we can think about building from there.

[ekhibee]

I thought we played well first half.


I thought the second half we weren't as good but had probably done enough to win the game. Dundee Utd were dreadful. I think the standard of Scottish football since Covid has been pretty poor outside of Celtic tbh. Genuinely good end to end games are becoming more of a rarity.

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Yep, my thoughts exactly. We were definitely the better team, and DU look really average at best, but they're still 4th or 5th somehow. The thing that scares me is we're looking more and more like an 80 minute team, not a 90 mi ute one. I'd be interested to know just how many goals we've concede in the last 10 minutes/injury time in the last 8 games.

[CapitalGreen]

10th is the target right now, not top 6. Get out of the bottom two and we can think about building from there.

What difference does it make if the target is top 6 or 10th, we are still going to go into every game with the intention of winning it. What would we do differently when targeting 10th instead of 6th?

[LaMotta]

If we hadn't had a shocker of a decision go against us we would be talking very differently.

We didn't, I appreciate, but it's one decision made by VAR that has cost us 2 points yesterday.

Easily pleased in the context of where we are, I absolutely would have been described as easily pleased if we'd won yesterday, I still am to some extent as I think we are improving defensively and no one would have begrudged us the win if we'd not been diddled by VAR.

:agree:

We were on course for a hard fought 1-0 win at home to a decent United team. Very similar to what the almighty and highly praised Aberdeen achieved a few weeks ago.

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

We were far better than Dundee UTD yesterday. We got mugged of 2 points.

In saying that we do need more firepower up front. Myko and Boyle were a waste of a jersey.

[JimBHibees]

If we hadn't had a shocker of a decision go against us we would be talking very differently.

We didn't, I appreciate, but it's one decision made by VAR that has cost us 2 points yesterday.

Easily pleased in the context of where we are, I absolutely would have been described as easily pleased if we'd won yesterday, I still am to some extent as I think we are improving defensively and no one would have begrudged us the win if we'd not been diddled by VAR.

Totally agree