Hibs vs St Johnstone.

[JohnM1875]

Completely agree, we miss Newell, hopefully he is fit for our next game

We really didn't miss Newell today. Think Kwon and Triantis should start every game if fit and I'd happily play Rudi over Newell.

Said I hope that'd be our three after the window closed and hope it is going forward. Rudi has so much potential and is already Scottish Premiership quality.

[mcohibs]

Not sure what your point is and what its got to do with Joe Newell.

The formation we’ve been playing is two holding midfielders, one of which has been Newell. Since coming in this season, both Triantis and Kwon have looked better than him in that position and IMO should be starting ahead of him. I’m not sure what’s confusing you?

[1875Sean]

The formation we’ve been playing is two holding midfielders, one of which has been Newell. Since coming in this season, both Triantis and Kwon have looked better than him in that position and IMO should be starting ahead of him. I’m not sure what’s confusing you?

Did you watch the last game when Hibs played all 3 and Newell scored?

Why do some Hibs fans need go on and on about Newell, take the win and chill

[B.H.F.C]

It takes a lot to astonish me but I'm amazed at the comments about Youan. How do people not realise that he was being given a 45 minute fitness run out today? As was proved we now have a big enough group that we can do this and still win easily against a team like St. Johnstone.

He wasn’t given a 45 minute fitness run out today. It was a game we really needed to win, you’re not giving someone a wee run out to get 45 minutes in the legs in a game like today ffs. He was hooked at half time because he was crap. The player who came on, who has also been unfit, was much better.

[whiskyhibby]

We really didn't miss Newell today. Think Kwon and Triantis should start every game if fit and I'd happily play Rudi over Newell.

Said I hope that'd be our three after the window closed and hope it is going forward. Rudi has so much potential and is already Scottish Premiership quality.


You obviously didn’t watch the 1st half….

But agree Rudi showed some fantastic touches today, he really is a shining star with a very bright future

[mcohibs]

Did you watch the last game when Hibs played all 3 and Newell scored?

Why do some Hibs fans need go on and on about Newell, take the win and chill

I was just replying to a post that said we missed Newell today Sean. I don’t think we did. Wasn’t me who brought him up, and simply offered another opinion, as we all do on this forum. Very chilled and delighted with 3 points and encouraging performance today.

[JohnM1875]

You obviously didn’t watch the 1st half….

But agree Rudi showed some fantastic touches today, he really is a shining star with a very bright future

I did, I think we've struggled most first half's this season, really don't know why and it's something we need to fix. But Newell has started every first half other than today. Having him in the starting line up, for me, wouldn't have made any difference.

[Del Boy]

Delighted with 3 points but we have some pretty horrendous footballers in our first 11 at the moment. Youan was brutal (hope it’s a lack of match sharpness as some suggest), Nicky Cadden - Christ!, does not look like a premier league player - hope he proves me wrong.

[basehibby]

He wasn’t given a 45 minute fitness run out today. It was a game we really needed to win, you’re not giving someone a wee run out to get 45 minutes in the legs in a game like today ffs. He was hooked at half time because he was crap. The player who came on, who has also been unfit, was much better.

Neither player was going to be risked for 90 mins coming back from injury so good management to give them both a half. Youan didn't have a great 45 that's true - but we know what he's capable of and good to get the minutes in his legs. He didn't look disinterested to me - just not quite on it. Hoilet had a great game when he came on and it's great to have options in these forward areas.

[tamig]

I was just replying to a post that said we missed Newell today Sean. I don’t think we did. Wasn’t me who brought him up, and simply offered another opinion, as we all do on this forum. Very chilled and delighted with 3 points and encouraging performance today.

You mentioned Newell wouldn’t be able to take the place of either Kwon or Triantis. The point is that SDG’s preferred midfield trio is all three. So there’s no question of Newell not stepping straight back in once available to hook up with the two new arrivals. That’s what you seemed to be overlooking.

[Donegal Hibby]

Maybe at some point somebody will explain to me why we have to be negative about our players like Youan , Newell , Caddens etc ? . Enjoy the win :aok:

[MWHIBBIES]

It takes a lot to astonish me but I'm amazed at the comments about Youan. How do people not realise that he was being given a 45 minute fitness run out today? As was proved we now have a big enough group that we can do this and still win easily against a team like St. Johnstone.

You do not need to be fit to be able to control a ball and pass it. Hoilett just off an injury too, and was miles better.

Youan was honestly a man down.

[Northernhibee]

It takes a lot to astonish me but I'm amazed at the comments about Youan. How do people not realise that he was being given a 45 minute fitness run out today? As was proved we now have a big enough group that we can do this and still win easily against a team like St. Johnstone.

If it was a fitness run out then he’d have come on as a sub when we were leading or a bounce game would have been arranged I’d imagine.

He was just very poor, and he has the ability to be that in the same way he can be absolutely sublime, often in the same half of football.

[Cooshed Kid]

i thought Youan was playing well within himself, which is fine given return from injury, and he was also trying to be more disciplined in defensive positioning which was important given that we did not enjoy control in midfield. I would have loved to have seen more of a goal threat but I'm really just delighted he's back. Let him build on that performance. His old flamboyance and marauding will return when he has more confidence.

What I really noticed was, for all the flak he takes for some quarters when he plays, how much we missed JN's relative composure in midfield. There was too much passing straight to the opposition, a lot of it panicked or just hurried unnecessarily. Another team could have inflicted multiple wounds and we were lucky yesterday.

But 3 points are valuable and we have to get in the habit of collecting them every time we play a "bottom 6" side.

[mcohibs]

You mentioned Newell wouldn’t be able to take the place of either Kwon or Triantis. The point is that SDG’s preferred midfield trio is all three. So there’s no question of Newell not stepping straight back in once available to hook up with the two new arrivals. That’s what you seemed to be overlooking.

That’s a couple of times you’ve said that but I’m unsure as to why you think that’s the case. Has Gray said this publicly?

Gray’s preferred formation this season, on the evidence of 4/5 league games, is clearly a 4-2-3-1. Where does Newell fit in there based on current form?

[Gatecrasher]

Some positives to take from yesterday, the midfield looked a lot better, we were creating good chances and could have had a couple more, I love seeing Mika lead the line he's like a modern Mixu, Hoilett looks a good player and the defence was an improvement. St Johnstone were poor but we had a tough start to the season so were due a game like that.

The negitives Youan was poor, I'll cut him some slack because he's not trained much and it was his first game of the season but trands from last season definately continued, there are still those shakey looking moments from the defence but to give them credit they recovered well from them.

Can we sign Triantis on a permanent please? What a difference he is making.

[worcesterhibby]

First half was tough, but St Johnstone and their negative tactics can do that to you. Goal came at a great time and we looked by far the better side in the second half. Glad to see Marvin getting some praise, defensively he’s been mostly excellent since he came in. The pass backs thing as an anomaly.

[JimBHibees]

i thought Youan was playing well within himself, which is fine given return from injury, and he was also trying to be more disciplined in defensive positioning which was important given that we did not enjoy control in midfield. I would have loved to have seen more of a goal threat but I'm really just delighted he's back. Let him build on that performance. His old flamboyance and marauding will return when he has more confidence.

What I really noticed was, for all the flak he takes for some quarters when he plays, how much we missed JN's relative composure in midfield. There was too much passing straight to the opposition, a lot of it panicked or just hurried unnecessarily. Another team could have inflicted multiple wounds and we were lucky yesterday.

But 3 points are valuable and we have to get in the habit of collecting them every time we play a "bottom 6" side.

We were certainly not lucky another day with more clinical finishing could have been 5 0

[JimBHibees]

First half was tough, but St Johnstone and their negative tactics can do that to you. Goal came at a great time and we looked by far the better side in the second half. Glad to see Marvin getting some praise, defensively he’s been mostly excellent since he came in. The pass backs thing as an anomaly.

Thought Saints knocked the ball about better than we did in the first half. Thought Marvin was solid all game.

[JimBHibees]

Maybe at some point somebody will explain to me why we have to be negative about our players like Youan , Newell , Caddens etc ? . Enjoy the win :aok:

My thoughts exactly. Some decent performances clean sheet and the second goal meant we weren't panicking going g into the last 5. Hoilett was excellent

[Fergus52]

Correct, finds both full backs and the keeper really well.

6th most progressive passes per 90 of all centre mids in the league last season,

Ahead of players .net loves like shinnie, O'Hara, baccus, Lennon miller.

Also more than McGregor, baningame, Barron, Clarkson.

The idea he passes it sideways more than any other deep midfielder in the league is a classic .net myth - he plays more forward passes per game than the majority of the midfielders in the league.

[BoomtownHibees]

That’s a couple of times you’ve said that but I’m unsure as to why you think that’s the case. Has Gray said this publicly?

Gray’s preferred formation this season, on the evidence of 4/5 league games, is clearly a 4-2-3-1. Where does Newell fit in there based on current form?

Probably the same as the Killie game, Kwon a bit further forward than where he played yesterday

Not saying that’s what I would do however think it’s what will happen

[MWHIBBIES]

6th most progressive passes per 90 of all centre mids in the league last season,

Ahead of players .net loves like shinnie, O'Hara, baccus, Lennon miller.

Also more than McGregor, baningame, Barron, Clarkson.

The idea he passes it sideways more than any other deep midfielder in the league is a classic .net myth - he plays more forward passes per game than the majority of the midfielders in the league.

Great post, but I don't think it's a myth. It's just people straight up disliking Newell and refusing to see what's right in front of them.

[Unseen work]

First half was tough, but St Johnstone and their negative tactics can do that to you. Goal came at a great time and we looked by far the better side in the second half. Glad to see Marvin getting some praise, defensively he’s been mostly excellent since he came in. The pass backs thing as an anomaly.

I’m not sure we can put our poor first half down to st Johnston in a negative way

For the first 30 minutes, St Johnston were just the better team imo and played in our half. Dont think there tactics were bad, they just kept a good shape and used the ball better than us.

We then went through a bit of a spell with Kwon and Myk having shots from distances and a couple of corners which got us more into the game and more of a threat the last 10-15 imo

[theonlywayisup]

Great post, but I don't think it's a myth. It's just people straight up disliking Newell and refusing to see what's right in front of them.

And some are so blind to his obvious failings that they constantly post virtually nothing but positives about him.

[Cabbage-Patch]

And some are so blind to his obvious failings that they constantly post virtually nothing but positives about him.

Hibs central saying he's out for quite a while with a hernia and needs an op so we will see how the team copes without him. Personally I don't think we will miss him much especially now with Kwon, Triantis and Hoillett in there adding some composure.

[Dashing Bob S]

Poor first half and didn’t deserve to go in a goal up. But the late score and/or Gray’s HT talk galvanized them, and we were more aggressive and positive in the second half.

A lot of good points from this game. A’deen already look cemented in 3rd, 4th and 5th could be anyone outside of Ross County and St Johnstone.

[worcesterhibby]

Thought Saints knocked the ball about better than we did in the first half. Thought Marvin was solid all game.

your probably correct, but I reserve the right to be negative about Levein at all times :greengrin

[Since452]

It's quite cute that Levein is doing all he can to help keep Hearts up this season. Good Hearts man.

[MWHIBBIES]

Hibs central saying he's out for quite a while with a hernia and needs an op so we will see how the team copes without him. Personally I don't think we will miss him much especially now with Kwon, Triantis and Hoillett in there adding some composure.

I hope we don't miss him either and we might not. Its good to have some other competent players now.


And some are so blind to his obvious failings that they constantly post virtually nothing but positives about him.

Not me. Eyes quite open to his failings. Posted them many times before. The difference is, I don't pile on him every time we lose a match.

If his failings were so obvious and many, folk wouldn't feel the need to literally make things up, would they?

Like, the idea he doesn't pass forward is totally and completely made up. False. Lie. Fabrication. Yet is posted on here daily. Why is that?

[worcesterhibby]

Poor first half and didn’t deserve to go in a goal up. But the late score and/or Gray’s HT talk galvanized them, and we were more aggressive and positive in the second half.

A lot of good points from this game. A’deen already look cemented in 3rd, 4th and 5th could be anyone outside of Ross County and St Johnstone.

Aberdeen will have a sticky patch, they are no world beaters and have had the perfect fixture list for a good start.

St Johnstone Away
St Mirren at home
Kilmarnock at home
Ross County away
Motherwell at Home

if you wanted to choose the easiest 5 fixtures you could get, you would choose those. Away matches against the weakest teams in the league and a home matches against St Mirren, Kilmarnock after a Euro tie and Motherwell. They still had to win them, and they have done that, so fair play to them, but I will reserve judgement on 3rd until they have played some tougher ties.

not that I’m suggesting we will get third, by the way..

[NC1875]

Hibs central saying he's out for quite a while with a hernia and needs an op so we will see how the team copes without him. Personally I don't think we will miss him much especially now with Kwon, Triantis and Hoillett in there adding some composure.

I was told he’s had the op this week. Not sure how long he’ll be out though.

[Unseen work]

Aberdeen will have a sticky patch, they are no world beaters and have had the perfect fixture list for a good start.

St Johnstone Away
St Mirren at home
Kilmarnock at home
Ross County away
Motherwell at Home

if you wanted to choose the easiest 5 fixtures you could get, you would choose those. Away matches against the weakest teams in the league and a home matches against St Mirren, Kilmarnock after a Euro tie and Motherwell. They still had to win them, and they have done that, so fair play to them, but I will reserve judgement on 3rd until they have played some tougher ties.

not that I’m suggesting we will get third, by the way..

Whilst not the hardest start on paper, that’s 2 teams that got European football and tricky fixtures away to county etc.

5 wins out of 5 is incredible in this league.

If we had that run of games I’d be happy with being undefeated and taking say 11 points

[The Modfather]

6th most progressive passes per 90 of all centre mids in the league last season,

Ahead of players .net loves like shinnie, O'Hara, baccus, Lennon miller.

Also more than McGregor, baningame, Barron, Clarkson.

The idea he passes it sideways more than any other deep midfielder in the league is a classic .net myth - he plays more forward passes per game than the majority of the midfielders in the league.

We better enjoy him while we can until clubs higher up the food chain want to sign him with stats like those.

[tamig]

That’s a couple of times you’ve said that but I’m unsure as to why you think that’s the case. Has Gray said this publicly?

Gray’s preferred formation this season, on the evidence of 4/5 league games, is clearly a 4-2-3-1. Where does Newell fit in there based on current form?

He doesn’t need to say anything publicly. The first time they were all available they were played together. Triantis was the main sitter in that game but the three were pretty fluid. Rudi was moved centrally yesterday to join Kwon and Triantis but I didn’t think he looked ready for that role. He’s been much better playing off the left. But I’m not going to keep this going. If you don’t think Newell will be back in, that’s your opinion. I think he will be back once he’s available again. I think Rudi may struggle for starts in the short term as I can see Hoilett being a mainstay on the left now.

[hibee-boys]

He doesn’t need to say anything publicly. The first time they were all available they were played together. Triantis was the main sitter in that game but the three were pretty fluid. Rudi was moved centrally yesterday to join Kwon and Triantis but I didn’t think he looked ready for that role. He’s been much better playing off the left. But I’m not going to keep this going. If you don’t think Newell will be back in, that’s your opinion. I think he will be back once he’s available again. I think Rudi may struggle for starts in the short term as I can see Hoilett being a mainstay on the left now.

100% agree. I actually think Joe’s skill set is better suited to that 10 role, I hope he gets a run out in there when fit. He’s been wasted as a deep lying centre mid. Triantis 6, Kwon 8 and Newell 10 would be Gray’s preferred line up I’d suspect with Kwon/Newell being interchangeable.

[MWHIBBIES]

We better enjoy him while we can until clubs higher up the food chain want to sign him with stats like those.

Dreadful logic. And he's already played hundreds of games up the foodchain.

Newell is a good player at this level. Has his flaws. Won't get a bigger move for a few reasons, clearly loving Hibs is a big one I think.

[flash]

We better enjoy him while we can until clubs higher up the food chain want to sign him with stats like those.

I don't hate the Hertz team as much you hate our captain.

[Cooshed Kid]

Don't know where this "Aberdeen for 3rd" stuff comes from. Who's sure to stop them being second? Rangers, whose Chairman has just had to quit for health reasons? If it can't be us stopping Rangers getting second I don't mind it being them. Aberdeen may well prove better over the season and it's not like it has no precedent. And they have Nizzy 2.0.

[worcesterhibby]

Whilst not the hardest start on paper, that’s 2 teams that got European football and tricky fixtures away to county etc.

5 wins out of 5 is incredible in this league.

If we had that run of games I’d be happy with being undefeated and taking say 11 points

like I said, credit to them for taking advantage, but can you suggest an easier opening 5 games ? The fact that both Killi and St Mirren had midweek Euro fixtures is actually an advantage.

[Cooshed Kid]

like I said, credit to them for taking advantage, but can you suggest an easier opening 5 games ? The fact that both Killi and St Mirren had midweek Euro fixtures is actually an advantage.

No, I agree with you. But they have a history and I won't underestimate them, especially if they have an astute and inspiring head coach. They have started well.....and I think Rangers may well perform below expectations.

[A Hi-Bee]

A very welcome win, as for the first half, best forgot about.
Looking for a good performance next game and see where we go from then on.

[percy veer]

I wonder if fatty mclaughlin was having a chuckle with levien after that one

[NC1875]

like I said, credit to them for taking advantage, but can you suggest an easier opening 5 games ? The fact that both Killi and St Mirren had midweek Euro fixtures is actually an advantage.

Did we not play both Killie and St Mirren after euro games ?

[wookie70]

Did we not play both Killie and St Mirren after euro games ?

Yes, Aberdeen have just made a very good start and seem to have a good manager and a plan. Barring the Celtc fixture I would say we have had a decent set of games to have picked up plenty points and apart from 2 late goals conceded we would all be pretty relaxed about points and position

[007]

Did we not play both Killie and St Mirren after euro games ?

We played them both at their grounds, Aberdeen played them both at Pittodrie.

[Since452]

No, I agree with you. But they have a history and I won't underestimate them, especially if they have an astute and inspiring head coach. They have started well.....and I think Rangers may well perform below expectations.

Aberdeen FC's history started and ended in the 1980's. They'll probably finish top 6 this season to be fair to them. Another 6-0 scudding should bring the back to earth.

[Tambo]

Great weekend as usual when I come up, weather was a bonus also.

Hopefully get up for Motherwell or Aberdeen next.

[NC1875]

We played them both at their grounds, Aberdeen played them both at Pittodrie.

I know that but for the poster to say Aberdeen have been lucky is a slight stretch of the imagination.

They’ve won 11 games on the trot, that’s not because they played teams after a euro game. As we have shown.

[MWHIBBIES]

I know that but for the poster to say Aberdeen have been lucky is a slight stretch of the imagination.

They’ve won 11 games on the trot, that’s not because they played teams after a euro game. As we have shown.

It's easier league fixtures, and 5 diddies in the league cup. Long way to go.

[Donegal Hibby]

I know that but for the poster to say Aberdeen have been lucky is a slight stretch of the imagination.

They’ve won 11 games on the trot, that’s not because they played teams after a euro game. As we have shown.

I said last season that I felt hertz were to a degree a bit lucky in they were scraping results by an odd goal , Aberdeen have had a couple so far this season as well .

Even though Aberdeen are flying at the minute it will be interesting to see how they do when the hit a bad patch which at some stage they will.. long way to go yet .

When you think about it we could have easily had another 4 points on the board at this stage …one thing I was looking at was our shots and we seem to be not having as many on target as we should … 15/3 , 4/0 * , 13/2 , 9/4 ,17/4 . Something that would be good to see us improving on .

* Celtic .

[worcesterhibby]

I know that but for the poster to say Aberdeen have been lucky is a slight stretch of the imagination.

They’ve won 11 games on the trot, that’s not because they played teams after a euro game. As we have shown.

I never said they have been lucky. I said they have had the easiest possible opening 5 fixtures and I given them credit for taking advantage. I was pointing out that , to a poster who reckoned they already
Had 3rd place sewn up. They’ve done very well, but they’re not that good. Long way to go yet.

im still waiting for anyone to suggest an easier 5 opening fixtures on paper.

[SaulGoodman]

I never said they have been lucky. I said they have had the easiest possible opening 5 fixtures and I given them credit for taking advantage. I was pointing out that , to a poster who reckoned they already
Had 3rd place sewn up. They’ve done very well, but they’re not that good. Long way to go yet.

im still waiting for anyone to suggest an easier 5 opening fixtures on paper.

Us with a 1 goal head start for 5 games in a row? :duck:

[worcesterhibby]

Us with a 1 goal head start for 5 games in a row? :duck:

there’s always one who spoils it for the rest of the class ! :I'm waiti That’s no board games allowed on the last day of term !

[Unseen work]

like I said, credit to them for taking advantage, but can you suggest an easier opening 5 games ? The fact that both Killi and St Mirren had midweek Euro fixtures is actually an advantage.

Hibs at Easter Road?🤣

[BILLYHIBS]

Ekpiteta C Cadden and Myko named in the SPFL team of the week

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[CentreLine]

Good to see Cadden recognised. He had his work cut out first half, constantly trying to get Youan to contribute and doing the work of two. It must have been a joy for him second half.

[BILLYHIBS]

Good to see Cadden recognised. He had his work cut out first half, constantly trying to get Youan to contribute and doing the work of two. It must have been a joy for him second half.

Lovely assist for Boyle almost Scott Allanesque

[theonlywayisup]

Ekpiteta C Cadden and Myko named in the SPFL team of the week

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No Hearts players included, yet Kasper Schmeichel included as goalkeeper in the weekend team.

[BILLYHIBS]

The boy Gueye looked a handful for The Sheep on Sportscene with a double rumoured to be coming to us over the summer allegedly never noticed Kevin Nisbet in the highlights

[easty]

The boy Gueye looked a handful for The Sheep on Sportscene with a double rumoured to be coming to us over the summer allegedly never noticed Kevin Nisbet in the highlights

It was last summer we were linked with Gueye, before he signed for Aberdeen. He struggled at Aberdeen last season and got sent out on loan in Jan.

[easty]

No Hearts players included, yet Kasper Schmeichel included as goalkeeper in the weekend team.

Should Schmeichel not be in the team if no Hearts players are in it?

I don’t follow the logic?

[ChilliEater]

Should Schmeichel not be in the team if no Hearts players are in it?

I don’t follow the logic?

It would suggest that Hearts played well and had a lot of shots on goal which he had to save. Which would suggest that they had players worthy of a spot in the TotW?

Not looked at the stats or the highlights for their game, so no idea if this ties in, but the logic isn't that hard to follow.

[DIXIHIBS]

It would suggest that Hearts played well and had a lot of shots on goal which he had to save. Which would suggest that they had players worthy of a spot in the TotW?

Not looked at the stats or the highlights for their game, so no idea if this ties in, but the logic isn't that hard to follow.


Hertz had a mighty 3 shots on target. I know that's doesn't tell the full story but strange to get in totw?

[BILLYHIBS]

It was last summer we were linked with Gueye, before he signed for Aberdeen. He struggled at Aberdeen last season and got sent out on loan in Jan.
👍

[ChilliEater]

Hertz had a mighty 3 shots on target. I know that's doesn't tell the full story but strange to get in totw?

Does seem odd that a keeper who saved 3 shots got in.