Bowie Injury

[Trinity Hibee]

In Lee Johnson style - if you throw somebody into a Lion's cage, and the lion eats that person. Do you blame the lion, or do you say the lion should have known not to eat the person?

Too many people blaming the lion.

I was pissed off but this made me laugh

[Real Emerald]

The start of the season has been lamentable and this has not helped. If Bowie cost the reported £600k this is a severe blow as the few minutes he played with us so far looked promising. He looked far and away the best signing we made this summer. Was looking forward to seeing him tomorrow as a first league win is now crucial.

With a bit more patience, sense and care this should have been avoided. Gemmill remarked that the pitch was poor in Malta. However, he has been selfish and put an U-21s game against Malta ahead of Hibs and Bowie's best interests and we pay the heavy price for it. You hope Gemmill & Hibs will have a different approach next time when Bowie is available for Scotland again. No one can think it's right that Bowie can start two consecutive games for the U21s when Hibs deemed he was not able to start for us.

When things are not going well things like Bowie's injury compound it.

Gray hid his emotions well but he will be raging. Heaps additional pressure on him.

Absolutely, we either have no luck or are making terrible decisions. We hardly ever sign players who are fit enough to start when they arrive. Hoilett not ready, Bowie not ready and Gray saying Gayle won’t be fit enough to start. We get beaten by Kelty and end up having to get knocked out the cup by Celtic and now Bowie is risked by Scotland when he was still finding fitness from his injury. You just can’t make it up with Hibs sometimes.

[Sioux]

This is what im thinking. He wasnt fully fit when he signed as had hamstring injury so why let him go on international duty. Very frustrating

Do you not understand that its not up to Hibs to decide whether he travels or not?

[SHODAN]

Well, it was good while it lasted. We won't be seeing many more games of him in a Hibs shirt so who's the replacement going to be in January?

[Cabbage-Patch]

Well, it was good while it lasted. We won't be seeing many more games of him in a Hibs shirt so who's the replacement going to be in January?

Assuming that's why we suddenly signed Gayle:confused:

[Iain G]

Well, it was good while it lasted. We won't be seeing many more games of him in a Hibs shirt so who's the replacement going to be in January?

He will hopefully be fit in January! We don't need a replacement?

[Cabbage-Patch]

Do you not understand that its not up to Hibs to decide whether he travels or not?

This is made all the more annoying by the fact he is actually over 21 now and arguably shouldn't have been playing regardless. I know you can play if you were under 21 when registered by annoying all the same. If hibs have communicated the potential injury risk to the Scotland camp then I hope an apology will be forthcoming

[Trinity Hibee]

This is made all the more annoying by the fact he is actually over 21 now and arguably shouldn't have been playing regardless. I know you can play if you were under 21 when registered by annoying all the same. If hibs have communicated the potential injury risk to the Scotland camp then I hope an apology will be forthcoming

**** an apology, we should be getting compensation

[Brummie_Hibs]

Do you not understand that its not up to Hibs to decide whether he travels or not?
Correct, but the player can decide not to. Che Adams pulled out of Scotland squad with a dubious injury!

Hibs could claim they are injured and therefore should be prevented from being selected. Hibs didn't appear to do that, Bowie wanted to go. Gemmill therefore has to assume the player is fit to play the games unrestricted.

if Hibs refused the call up, and the SFA smelt BS, then Bowie would have been prevented from playing tomorrow. For the sake of the 10/20 minutes time Bowie would have got on the pitch tomorrow (and let's face it, if we can't beat StJ at ER without Bowie, then we have even bigger issues), then in hindsight Hibs should have advised Bowie not to go.

[Tambo]

FFS that's a sickner 4 months minimum, it's been a season to forget already.

[Since452]

Buzzing for next season already

[Clarence]

Hello darkness my old friend …

[Eyrie]

Quite ridiculous the number of posts attempting to find a way to blame Hibs in this thread.

We signed a very talented player with even more potential who was returning from a hamstring injury and as part of that Hibs were carefully managing his game time without any issues.

He got called up for international duty and started the first game in which he had a lot of running to do. So the sensible thing is to keep him on the bench four days later but some idiot decided to play him from the start which resulted in a serious re-occurrence of the same hamstring injury that he was still recovering form.

That's nothing to do with Hibs.

And now all we'll get is a contribution to his wages when what matters for Hibs is the points we won't get by Bowie missing most of the season.

[Alfred E Newman]

It can often be of our own making but it's no wonder we look on ourselves as the unluckiest club on the planet.

[Keith_M]

Hibs shouldn't be signing crocked players.

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That to me is surely the most relevant take on all of this.

What's the point of splashing out massively on a player who was clearly on the brink of a recurring injury

[Waxy]

We really have been unlucky with serious injuries to key players in the last while.
Magennis, Nisbet, Boyle?
More?

[Sprouleflyer]

Can see Bowie being another McGeady, bags of talent but always injured.

[CropleyWasGod]

Can see Bowie being another McGeady, bags of talent but always injured.

He's played well over 100 games in 3 years. He doesn't have a history of injury.

[Callum_62]

Can see Bowie being another McGeady, bags of talent but always injured.What other injuries has he had?

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[MWHIBBIES]

Can see Bowie being another McGeady, bags of talent but always injured.

I hate this place sometimes.

[Heisenberg]

He's played well over 100 games in 3 years. He doesn't have a history of injury.

Sadly two very bad hamstring injuries in quick succession doesn’t look great. Hopefully he gets over this one and kicks on from there

[HFC93]

Can see Bowie being another McGeady, bags of talent but always injured.

This is such a strange comparison to make on multiple levels.

[MWHIBBIES]

This is such a strange comparison to make on multiple levels.

Especially considering mcgeady was rarely injured and played over 700 professional matches.

[McGruber]

Absolutely gutted for Bowie and Hibs - a sliding doors moment in the season.

Can't blame Hibs for him getting injured on international duty but impossible to tell if he wouldn't have picked it up regardless at some point.

One thing that's been completely contradictory was Hibs message that we would be signing robust players that needed to be ready to go in day one and hit the ground running.

Hoilett - signed injured
Bowie - signed on back of hamstring injury, not fit to start
Cadden - hadn't played much football, not fit to start
Iredale - not played much, not fit to start
Gayle - not fit to start

[Unseen work]

Can see Bowie being another McGeady, bags of talent but always injured.

If Bowie is anything like McGeady then he will be a brilliant signing and make us millions.

[Paul1642]

Bowie doesn’t have two hamstring injuries in quick succession. He has one hamstring injury that he wasn’t allowed to recover from because of a mismanaged recovery on behalf of the Scotland setup.

[He's here!]

He will hopefully be fit in January! We don't need a replacement?

Suspect from the 'at least 4 months' wording of the statement that there's zero chance he'll be playing again in January. Much more likely a 'longer than expected/complications' type update ahead of him maybe getting a couple of sub appearance towards the end of the season.

[JimBHibees]

Can see Bowie being another McGeady, bags of talent but always injured.

Ffs :greengrin

[greenlex]

Why are we blaming the Scotland set up here? 50 odd minutes against Spain and off injured after 30 odd against Malta. Just because he started both games is surely neither here nor there. It’s about minutes. Is it really too much for him to manage 50 odd each game? The answer is obviously as he has broken down but the idea that Scotland were almost flogging him to death seems a bit odd. Perhaps it would have happened in any case.

[7Hero]

Hoilett - signed injured
Bowie - signed on back of hamstring injury, not fit to start
Cadden - hadn't played much football, not fit to start
Iredale - not played much, not fit to start
Gayle - not fit to start


Crikey ! Not good reading

[JimBHibees]

Why are we blaming the Scotland set up here? 50 odd minutes against Spain and off injured after 30 odd against Malta. Just because he started both games are surely neither here nor there. Is it really too much for him to manage 50 odd each game? The answer is obviously as he has broken down but the idea that Scotland were almost flogging him to death seems a bit odd. Perhaps it would have happened in any case.

Starting two games in 4 days after starting no games for his club seems extreme given how we were limiting his game time.

[007]

Absolutely gutted for Bowie and Hibs - a sliding doors moment in the season.

Can't blame Hibs for him getting injured on international duty but impossible to tell if he wouldn't have picked it up regardless at some point.

One thing that's been completely contradictory was Hibs message that we would be signing robust players that needed to be ready to go in day one and hit the ground running.

Hoilett - signed injured
Bowie - signed on back of hamstring injury, not fit to start
Cadden - hadn't played much football, not fit to start
Iredale - not played much, not fit to start
Gayle - not fit to start

I don't remember anyone saying we'd be signing robust players. Who said it and when?

[Iain G]

Suspect from the 'at least 4 months' wording of the statement that there's zero chance he'll be playing again in January. Much more likely a 'longer than expected/complications' type update ahead of him maybe getting a couple of sub appearance towards the end of the season.

Am sticking to my glass half full view and sticking with January 😁

[greenlex]

Starting two games in 4 days after starting no games for his club seems extreme given how we were limiting his game time.
If he had played both second halves and limped off the second one been acceptable?

[JimBHibees]

If he had played both second halves and limped off the second one been acceptable?

Probably sounds like he put in a big shift v Spain on that basis seemed a little silly to start him in the next game. Injuries can happen though however wouldn’t like to think the decision was left to player eg do you think you are ok to start in Malta as all players especially young ones would say yes

[McGruber]

I don't remember anyone saying we'd be signing robust players. Who said it and when?

Think they've both said it pre seson Gray and MacKay - Gray certainly has a number of times.

[Spike Mandela]

Sorry but that's absolute madness to suggest Hibs have gotten it wrong by signing him. He's clearly quality and has serious potential to be a great player for us. We were managing his return properly and a third party has ****ed it for us.

If you ever think teams at our level will never sign players with slight injury worries again you're off your head.

Slight? Well, enjoy him being out pretty much all season.

[JimBHibees]

I don't remember anyone saying we'd be signing robust players. Who said it and when?

Just need to look at the physical size of the vast majority of our recent signings

[TrinityHFC]

I don't remember anyone saying we'd be signing robust players. Who said it and when?

Yeah. Made up nonsense.

It is impossible to sign every player fit and ready to play from pre season and we’ve never promised to do that.

When we’ve talked about more players ready to impact the first team it meant less long term projects like Melkersen.

[Eyrie]

Slight? Well, enjoy him being out pretty much all season.

It was a slight injury worry when managed properly by Gray.

It only became a major injury worry when Gemmill decided to be negligent against the might of Malta U21s.

[Is It On....]

It was a slight injury worry when managed properly by Gray.

It only became a major injury worry when Gemmill decided to be negligent against the might of Malta U21s.

I 100% agree. The SFA should be ashamed of themselves with their reckless treatment of Bowie and blatant disregard for Hibs.

[JimBHibees]

It was a slight injury worry when managed properly by Gray.

It only became a major injury worry when Gemmill decided to be negligent against the might of Malta U21s.

Totally agree. Hasn't started a game all season and playing short 20 min cameos then starts v Spain a game we will be chasing the ball alot. Decides start him again 4 days later on a known dodgy pitch. Difficult to be objectively reviewing that and not think there has been a degree of negligence by Scotland 21s

[Donegal Hibby]

It was a slight injury worry when managed properly by Gray.

It only became a major injury worry when Gemmill decided to be negligent against the might of Malta U21s.

Totally agree .

[Skol]

I am of the opinion that if he had a bad hamstring injury and wasn’t fully over it, he shouldn’t even have been risked as a substitute by Hibs. In a game situation the player is likely to put more strain on the injury and so this was an injury waiting to happen

[LewysGot2]

I know it's unlikely he'll be back soon but have Hibs given any update on his progress?

Sliding doors moment that injury- for him and I suspect us.

[1875Sean]

I know it's unlikely he'll be back soon but have Hibs given any update on his progress?

Sliding doors moment that injury- for him and I suspect us.

Hibe said at the he would be out for at least four months, so wouldn’t expect to see him until late Dec start of Jan at the earliest

[ChuckNor]

This injury will prove to be very significant for us this season. Really has left us in an awful position.

[wookie70]

This injury will prove to be very significant for us this season. Really has left us in an awful position.

It will be interesting to see how many centre forwards we sign in the window. Given we were nursing Bowie in before than injury he won't be a starter, ready to play full games for some time. Gayle injured at the moment and it is a recurrence of a hamstring so may be something that now happens quite often given his age and Kuharevich usually misses a good few games every season due to injury. We are incredibly short in the area of the pitch we most struggle in

[Centre Hawf]

I still don't think we'll see anywhere near the best of Bowie until next season if his hamstring was as bad as it looks like it was.

[JohnM1875]

I still don't think we'll see anywhere near the best of Bowie until next season if his hamstring was as bad as it looks like it was.

Spot on. He’ll be back before the end of the season, but it won't be until next season we get to see the real Bowie again. Can't wait.

[superfurryhibby]

Yeah. Made up nonsense.

It is impossible to sign every player fit and ready to play from pre season and we’ve never promised to do that.

When we’ve talked about more players ready to impact the first team it meant less long term projects like Melkersen.

Bowie missing virtually the whole season through recurrence of an existing injury doesn't tell me we signed a player ready to impact the first team.

There's a sensible balance to be struck in terms of players and injury. Paying what represents a large fee by Hibs standards for a guy who was still injured strikes me as stupidity. Compounding that by adding a veteran player with a history of the same injury is tantamount to negligence.

We now have one recognised first team centre forward available for selection and are at the bottom of the league, struggling to score gaols.

[BoomtownHibees]

Spot on. He’ll be back before the end of the season, but it won't be until next season we get to see the real Bowie again. Can't wait.

Ripping it up in the Championship

[Centre Hawf]

Bowie missing virtually the whole season through recurrence of an existing injury doesn't tell me we signed a player ready to impact the first team.

There's a sensible balance to be struck in terms of players and injury. Paying what represents a large fee by Hibs standards for a guy who was still injured strikes me as stupidity. Compounding that by adding a veteran player with a history of the same injury is tantamount to negligence.

We now have one recognised first team centre forward available for selection and are at the bottom of the league, struggling to score gaols.

I think you're being harsh. The club were aware of an injury that needed a bit more managing, then he goes off to Scotland U21s and the plan is thrown out the window. You could argue Hibs were doing everything right to have him back to full health.

Footballers get injured, it's going to happen. Unless they have a terrible record with staying fit, which Bowie doesn't, then I don't see the issue in signing someone who recently has had one. Gayle however is a panicked move I will agree.

[Tambo]

Gray saying Bowie out of the gym and on the grass but the timeline remains the same, could be back for late December.

[Bridge hibs]

Gray saying Bowie out of the gym and on the grass but the timeline remains the same, could be back for late December.

****ing hell, Newell on the piss and Bowie on the grass, whats going on at our club 🫣

[Nicho87]

No pressure Bowie but we need you to score 2 goals each game

Cheers

[judas]

I’ve heard Bowie only has Five Years left.

[Tambo]

****ing hell, Newell on the piss and Bowie on the grass, whats going on at our club 🫣

😁

A few players could be on it with the lack of concentration.

[Basildon Hibs]

Ripping it up in the Championship

👍👍

[h185forever]

I’ve heard Bowie only has Five Years left.

but once he gets over the Sorrow of his current injury …..he’ll prove to be our prettiest star.

[hibee-boys]

I’ve heard Bowie only has Five Years left.

We really need some Heroes.

[Is It On....]

We really need some Heroes.

And not just for one day..

[hibbydog]

I think you're being harsh. The club were aware of an injury that needed a bit more managing, then he goes off to Scotland U21s and the plan is thrown out the window. You could argue Hibs were doing everything right to have him back to full health.

Footballers get injured, it's going to happen. Unless they have a terrible record with staying fit, which Bowie doesn't, then I don't see the issue in signing someone who recently has had one. Gayle however is a panicked move I will agree.

Maybe we shouldn’t have let him play for the u21s where we have no control over injury risk at a critical stage in his recovery ?

Hibs should be more cautious in protecting their most valuable assets.

[Albert Kidd 86’]

Let’s dance, Bowie is on his way back, the night is young…

[Since90+2]

Maybe we shouldn’t have let him play for the u21s where we have no control over injury risk at a critical stage in his recovery ?

Hibs should be more cautious in protecting their most valuable assets.

Hibs have no control over whether he goes to the under 21s or not.

[I'm_cabbaged]

Hibs have no control over whether he goes to the under 21s or not.

Celtc manage to do it without a problem?

[007]

Celtc manage to do it without a problem?

The SFA pander to Celtic and Rangers, in case you hadn't noticed.

[Northernhibee]

Let’s dance, Bowie is on his way back, the night is young…

He’ll end up as top appearance holder too - he’s never ever gonna get sold

[ancient hibee]

Celtc manage to do it without a problem?

To be fair Celtic let the players go and then they are declared unfit.

[HoboHarry]

I’ve heard Bowie only has Five Years left.
Nonsense, he'll be our Starman for years to come...

[MikeyS]

Ripping it up in the Championship

The way our board deal with contracts, it would nt surprise me if he had a relegation release clause! :wink:

[superfurryhibby]

Bowie's return from injury steps up a gear.

"the timescale will still be what it is, around Christmas.”

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-injury-boost-top-goal-threat-desperate-comeback-training-pitch-4863645

[JohnM1875]

Bowie's return from injury steps up a gear.

"the timescale will still be what it is, around Christmas.”

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-injury-boost-top-goal-threat-desperate-comeback-training-pitch-4863645

"Potential Hibs saviour Kieron Bowie" Hell of a lot of pressure to be placing on a 22 year old laddie! Mental how **** we've been has caused this.

I am buzzing to see him again but it'll take him some time to get back up to match fitness.

[JimBHibees]

"Potential Hibs saviour Kieron Bowie" Hell of a lot of pressure to be placing on a 22 year old laddie! Mental how **** we've been has caused this.

I am buzzing to see him again but it'll take him some time to get back up to match fitness.

Yes a ridiculous thing to say. Hopefully back fully fit and we get to see what he can do. Has certainly been a miss