League Cup draw

[Springbank]

Fleetwood away is thankfully not possible😄

I'm right up for a Derby on 18 Aug, home or away.

Let's plunge hearts in crisis #ggtth

[SHODAN]

Honestly yeah let's do a derby, why not lmao

[HH81]

The Rangers away. Good chance to knock them out and we'd get lot of tickets.

[Alfred E Newman]

Let's just have the easiest possible draw at home.

[hibee1875]

Let's just have the easiest possible draw at home.

Can we draw at home? Is it not the seeded teams are guaranteed a home draw?

[HibbyKeith]

Can we draw at home? Is it not the seeded teams are guaranteed a home draw?I always thought the seeded teams just couldn't be drawn against each other. Essentially guaranteeing them an "easier" tie, I've never known it to be a guaranteed home draw, but now you got me unsure [emoji1787]

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[Gmack7]

Are we seeded?

[Nicho87]

Are we seeded?

No

[MWHIBBIES]

Can we draw at home? Is it not the seeded teams are guaranteed a home draw?

No. We can draw at home.

[HibbyKeith]

Are we seeded?We are not seeded.

The seeded teams in the last 16 will be the five European representatives and the three group winners with the best records.

Aberdeen, Dundee & Ross County won all their group games. The Kelty result screwed us over.

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[Billy Whizz]

The Rangers away. Good chance to knock them out and we'd get lot of tickets.

Not sure what the % stipulation is for away games in the league Cup

[Nicho87]

The only thing guaranteed rangers and celtic will get home ties against two of the lowest ranked teams left however

[TrinityHFC]

We are not seeded.

The seeded teams in the last 16 will be the five European representatives and the three group winners with the best records.

Aberdeen, Dundee & Ross County won all their group games. The Kelty result screwed us over.

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We are through and it is a cup competition. If we want to win it we will need to beat whoever we are drawn against as usual.

[HibbyKeith]

We are through and it is a cup competition. If we want to win it we will need to beat whoever we are drawn against as usual.I'm not disupiting those facts. However, a path of least resistance would have been nice.

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[oneone73]

We are through and it is a cup competition. If we want to win it we will need to beat whoever we are drawn against as usual.

Agreed. But I'd rather play Celtc with 15k of our fans at Hampden than 55k of theirs at Darkheid.

[O'Rourke3]

Can we draw at home? Is it not the seeded teams are guaranteed a home draw?4 seemed teams have a home draw. 4 have away. All 8 seeds at home kinda screws up the competition for fairness. Rangers generally get the home end and Celtic away. This is why they were out the competition drawing Kilkie away. When we played Ayr at Easter Road they were the seeded team and we got the home draw.

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[Keith_M]

Are we seeded? Nah, we're seedless.

[B.H.F.C]

Ross County at home please.

[Keith_M]

Rangers at Hampden please.

They haven't beaten us there since 1979, so that's got to be the best draw.

[EdinMike]

The only thing guaranteed rangers and celtic will get home ties against two of the lowest ranked teams left however

The Rangers don’t have a home though 🤔 What is guaranteed is they will avoid each other.

[BoomtownHibees]

The Rangers don’t have a home though 🤔 What is guaranteed is they will avoid each other.

Well aye as they’re both seeded

[JohnM1875]

Well aye as they’re both seeded

Rigged!

[Donegal Hibby]

Nah, we're seedless.

I think that has given some folk the pip .

[JimBHibees]

4 seemed teams have a home draw. 4 have away. All 8 seeds at home kinda screws up the competition for fairness. Rangers generally get the home end and Celtic away. This is why they were out the competition drawing Kilkie away. When we played Ayr at Easter Road they were the seeded team and we got the home draw.

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Is that right? Seems a nonsense 4 seeds guaranteed home draw think i know who two of them would be

[LancsHibs]

When’s the draw?

[Trinity Hibee]

After Motherwell game. Hope we get Spartans

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

After Motherwell game. Hope we get Spartans

Unseeded like ourselves. We will get one of Celtc, Huns, Hertz, Killie, St Mirren, Aberdeen, Dundee or Ross County.

[Trinity Hibee]

Unseeded like ourselves. We will get one of Celtc, Huns, Hertz, Killie, St Mirren, Aberdeen, Dundee or Ross County.

Ah ok. not ideal

[Cat Stanton]

Rangers at Hampden please.

They haven't beaten us there since 1979, so that's got to be the best draw.

And even then it took them three matches and for us to score the winning goal.

[MKHIBEE]

And even then it took them three matches and for us to score the winning goal.Not forgetting the stonewall penalty we were denied

[Donegal Hibby]

Think we are going to get Aberdeen .

[SHODAN]

Preferred outcome:
Motherwell v Hearts
St Johnstone v Celtic
Dundee Utd v Rangers
Airdrie v Aberdeen
Hibs v Ross County

Draw will actually be:
Rangers v Spartans
Celtic v Queen's Park
Aberdeen v Falkirk
Hearts v Hibs

[Onceinawhile]

Preferred outcome:
Celtic v Hearts
Aberdeen v Rangers
Hibs v Ross County

Draw will be:

Rangers v Spartans
Celtic v Queen's Park
Aberdeen v Falkirk
Hearts v Hibs

Hearts and celtic are both seeded. So that can't happen anyway.

[SHODAN]

Hearts and celtic are both seeded. So that can't happen anyway.

Yeah realised my mistake immediately lol

[badabing67]

Motherwell the last team in, they wouldn't be a bad draw.

[BoomtownHibees]

Motherwell the last team in, they wouldn't be a bad draw.

We can’t get them

[Renfrew_Hibby]

We can’t get them

Again, like ourselves they aren't seeded so we won't be drawing them.

[Moulin Yarns]

Motherwell the last team in, they wouldn't be a bad draw.

This has to be unique in top level football, a penalty shootout with nothing at stake.

[HibbyAndy]

This has to be unique in top level football, a penalty shootout with nothing at stake.

Hearts have history :-)

[Lago]

Motherwell out

[badabing67]

We can’t get themSorry neither we can

[hibee-boys]

What time is the draw and where can I watch it?

[BoomtownHibees]

Motherwell out

They’re through as group winners

[BILLYHIBS]

What time is the draw and where can I watch it?

Premier Sports now

[southern hibby]

They’re through as group winners

Think P Thistle won the group

GGTTH

[oneone73]

Think P Thistle won the group

GGTTH

They didn't

[one day maybe...]

Think P Thistle won the group

GGTTH

Nope only sitting on 8 points Motherwell are on 9

[Tambo]

Home draw please to Ross county.

[Craigmount Hibs]

Weegies away!

[Albert Kidd 86’]

Celtic v Hibs !

[B.H.F.C]

Disaster of a draw.

[mutley]

Celtic away, that’ll be that then ! [emoji849]


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[hibee-boys]

Celtic v hibs

Deary me🙈

[badabing67]

Away to Celtic FFS

[Devonhibs]

Ffs

[CapitalGreen]

What a surprise, Kelty defeat was a disaster for us.

[Lago]

Oh well it was good while it lasted 😅

[Moulin Yarns]

Ah well, got to beat them to win the cup

[Ozyhibby]

That’s on David Gray.[emoji35]


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[Trinity Hibee]

Ffs

[LunasBoots]

That's that then.

[we are hibs]

Shrewd decision to field that team V Kelty eh

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[JohnM1875]

Which is exactly why the aim is always to get through seeded. Couldn't have been a worse draw.

[Stuart93]

That’s what we get for dicking about against Kelty

[B.H.F.C]

It’s what you get for making an arse of it against Kelty Hearts. So frustrating.

[He's here!]

Oh well, just need to focus on trying to get some points on the board in the league.

[Pretty Boy]

Oh well at least we have a ready made excuse about 'reduced revenue due to not making the latter stages in the League Cup' for next summer.

[hibsbollah]

We’ll have to beat them at some point.

[southern hibby]

I’m not disputing anything anyone says but the table I’m looking at has Motherwell down on 8 points and P Thistle on 9

GGTTH

[hibee-boys]

That Kelty loss stings even more now.

[BoomtownHibees]

I’m not disputing anything anyone says but the table I’m looking at has Motherwell down on 8 points and P Thistle on 9

GGTTH

Motherwell have just been drawn at home to Killie

If you’re using LiveScore they’ve given Partick 3 points and Motherwell 0 for todays game

[SHODAN]

Does this mean we can get seats that aren't complete garbage for once?

[TelaStella]

Any chance of extra allocation for this being cup or just the usual 12 tickets behind a wall?


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[sean04]

**** about at kelty and punished for it. Well done hibs

[Big_Franck]

Good job David Gray. Excellent stuff.

[Steve20]

That’s the price we pay for those gutless players losing to Kelty.

[GreenCastle]

Deserved for losing to Kelty. Total embarrassment of a result.

One less possible cup game = more lost revenue.

Haven’t won at Celtic Park since 2010.

[Tambo]

That Kelty loss stings even more now.

Yep, the most difficult tie we could have got. No doubt will be live on premier sports.

[BoomtownHibees]

Any chance of extra allocation for this being cup or just the usual 12 tickets behind a wall?


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We won’t take a big crowd I don’t think

[hibee]

No reason we can’t beat them but if we’re going to lose to them I’d rather do it early than at Hampden in the later stages.

[Donegal Hibby]

Wonder what the folk who said we need to get minutes in the players legs( Kelty game) think now ? ..

[Coco Bryce]

**** around. Find out.

[McGruber]

Yeah, extremely likely to be out at last 16 stage so that's one target we're going to fail this season practically before it starts. Pretty sure of all the groups ours was the easiest and we didn't do enough to earn an easier tie. Not only is that on management but yet again we went into it undercooked

[B.H.F.C]

Any chance of extra allocation for this being cup or just the usual 12 tickets behind a wall?


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They’ll give us the minimum if we stick to what we’ve said and cut their allocation at ER on 11th August.

[LewysGot2]

Twice in a week...

[500miles]

Wah wah wah.

Grow up. Game on.

[southern hibby]

Motherwell have just been drawn at home to Killie

I believe you honestly only going by the table I was looking at, I’ve actually screen shot it but not sure how to get it on here to let folk know I’m no dreaming lol

GGTTH

[andrew70]

They’ll give us the minimum if we stick to what we’ve said and cut their allocation at ER on 11th August.

Is it not 20% in the cup or is that just the Scottish?

[BoomtownHibees]

I believe you honestly only going by the table I was looking at, I’ve actually screen shot it but not sure how to get it on here to let folk know I’m no dreaming lol

GGTTH

I’ve edited my post however if you’re using LiveScore they’ve given Partick 3 points and Motherwell 0 for todays game

[B.H.F.C]

Is it not 20% in the cup or is that just the Scottish?

Have a feeling that is just the Scottish. We won’t need anywhere near 20% anyway.

[Since90+2]

Is it not 20% in the cup or is that just the Scottish?

We'd not sell anywhere near 20%, that would be 12,000 tickets.

Probably sell about 3 or 4 thousand if we got that many.

[Stairway 2 7]

Ah well, got to beat them to win the cup

We didn't last two times we won it or when we won the Scottish. Terrible draw and a lesson in Grays short career, get the job done then rest who you want

[Albert Kidd 86’]

I think we should give SDG a break here, Its early in his management career, he will learn from this.

[badabing67]

Last-16 draw in full Premier Sports Cup, second-round drawAberdeen v Queen's ParkCeltic v HibernianDundee v AirdrieoniansDundee United v St MirrenFalkirk v Heart of MidlothianMotherwell v KilmarnockRangers v St JohnstoneThe Spartans v Ross County

[B.H.F.C]

I think we should give SDG a break here, Its early in his management career, he will learn from this.

Should have learned when he was on the coaching staff when LJ was manager and made an arse of it. We are not good enough to take chances.

[Hibee Mac]

That’s on David Gray.[emoji35]


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkHe definitely shoulders some of the blame, however, the players have to take some too. Doesn't matter how much of a second rate team was played, they should be beating Kelty Hearts in their sleep. Players should arguably be more embarrassed by that result than David Gray.

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[tamig]

We'd not sell anywhere near 20%, that would be 12,000 tickets.

Probably sell about 3 or 4 thousand if we got that many.

No danger we’d even sell that much for this game. No chance.

[He's here!]

No reason we can’t beat them but if we’re going to lose to them I’d rather do it early than at Hampden in the later stages.

There's every reason we can't beat them and we won't.

[Stairway 2 7]

I think we should give SDG a break here, Its early in his management career, he will learn from this.

But the learning event means we are probably out the cup early. We're not an amateur side that people should do their learning on, we need a top manager for the top league, hopefully he will be this season as there isn't space for learning and hiccups

[Since90+2]

No danger we’d even sell that much for this game. No chance.

Think it depends on the kick off time and how we start in the league. If it's a decent kick off time and we have positive results to start the season don't think it's inconceivable we'd sell 3k.

[He's here!]

We'd not sell anywhere near 20%, that would be 12,000 tickets.

Probably sell about 3 or 4 thousand if we got that many.

Unless we start off in spectacular style in the league we'll take 1500 max. Even that's probably on the high side.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Are the games the weekend of 17/18th?
2 doings off of Celtic in a week could really set us back a lot, certainly confidence/ morale wise. Especially if the St.Mirren game is poor.

[BILLYHIBS]

I believe you honestly only going by the table I was looking at, I’ve actually screen shot it but not sure how to get it on here to let folk know I’m no dreaming lol

GGTTH

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[tamig]

Think it depends on the kick off time and how we start in the league. If it's a decent kick off time and we have positive results to start the season don't think it's inconceivable we'd sell 3k.

No you’re right. Although at this moment that position is looking a tad optimistic. If we get off to a flyer in the league though, we could get a fairly decent turnout. Still frustrating we couldn’t top the group with 12 points.

[Donegal Hibby]

I think we should give SDG a break here, Its early in his management career, he will learn from this.

He should have learnt when he seen it happen under a previous manager , sorry but he messed up on this one .

[Billy Whizz]

Are the games the weekend of 17/18th?
2 doings off of Celtic in a week could really set us back a lot, certainly confidence/ morale wise. Especially if the St.Mirren game is poor.

They are, as you say back to games v Celtic

[TelaStella]

We won’t take a big crowd I don’t think

We’re never really given the option to though are we..? Think we’ve sold out our Celtic park allocations more than we haven’t in recent years anyway. Cup game and midweek might be a bit more different though.


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[babahibs]

Wah wah wah.Grow up. Game on.Yep.Apparently we've lost a game of football that hasn't even taken place yet. Bizarre.

[tamig]

Are the games the weekend of 17/18th?
2 doings off of Celtic in a week could really set us back a lot, certainly confidence/ morale wise. Especially if the St.Mirren game is poor.

It could turn out the other way of course 😲

[BoomtownHibees]

We’re never really given the option to though are we..? Think we’ve sold out our Celtic park allocations more than we haven’t in recent years anyway. Cup game and midweek might be a bit more different though.


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It won’t be midweek

[Ozyhibby]

Are the games the weekend of 17/18th?
2 doings off of Celtic in a week could really set us back a lot, certainly confidence/ morale wise. Especially if the St.Mirren game is poor.

Get beat of St. Mirren and Gray is under massive pressure before he really gets going.


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[TelaStella]

It won’t be midweek

That helps then


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[LaMotta]

I think we should give SDG a break here, Its early in his management career, he will learn from this.I'm very much behind David Gray, but there is no excusing that Kelty team and result. That's not something any manager should have to learn about.

[MWHIBBIES]

Bizarre to blame Gray. Did he miss those chances at Kelty?

Were we going to win this cup without playing Celtic? Kilmarnock beat them last year, why can't Hibs?

[Iain G]

Yep.Apparently we've lost a game of football that hasn't even taken place yet. Bizarre.

1 thing you could change on Hibs.net? People to get the **** over the Kelty result 🤣

[Since90+2]

Bizarre to blame Gray. Did he miss those chances at Kelty?

Were we going to win this cup without playing Celtic? Kilmarnock beat them last year, why can't Hibs?

Of course we can, it's highly unlikely though.

[hhibs]

I think we should give SDG a break here, Its early in his management career, he will learn from this.

Sorry,do not see it that way.

He is supposed to have learned from all the mistakes made by the managers he has coached under,first real opportunity to show he has actually learned,he ffffs up big time.

[MWHIBBIES]

I'm very much behind David Gray, but there is no excusing that Kelty team and result. That's not something any manager should have to learn about.

There is no excuse for our forwards blasting easy chances over. Team selection was fine.

[Aldoo]

I think we should give SDG a break here, Its early in his management career, he will learn from this.

Respectfully disagree, going into the kelty game the group was not won, we were away from home and on a plastic pitch. It does not take an experienced head coach to realise that we needed to do a professional job on them and get that game won with strongest team possible. This is not hindsight talking.

Losing to Kelty is not a stick that he needed to be beaten with but this will be used against him in the future. He messed up big time on this one and has made life much harder for himself.

[tamig]

Get beat of St. Mirren and Gray is under massive pressure before he really gets going.


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Don’t think there’s any chance of that. The naysayers here aren’t representative of the wider support.

[He's here!]

Yep.Apparently we've lost a game of football that hasn't even taken place yet. Bizarre.

Expect disappointment and you'll never be truly disappointed.

[Ozyhibby]

Sorr ,do not see it that way.

He is supposed to have learned from all the mistakes made by the managers he has coached under,first real opportunity to show he has actually learned,he ffffs up big time.

That’s what he was sold as when appointed.


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[MWHIBBIES]

Sorr ,do not see it that way.

He is supposed to have learned from all the mistakes made by the managers he has coached under,first real opportunity to show he has actually learned,he ffffs up big time.

First real big opportunity? What about the 2 games before it?

[Coco Bryce]

Get beat of St. Mirren and Gray is under massive pressure before he really gets going.


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No chance. Fans won't turn on Gray.

It's the board that will get it.

[JohnM1875]

Bizarre to blame Gray. Did he miss those chances at Kelty? Were we going to win this cup without playing Celtic? Kilmarnock beat them last year, why can't Hibs?A manager always takes blame for a poor result. We won Scottish Cup without having to beat Celtic.

[LewysGot2]

When do they (Smellies) start European games?

Scratch that. Not August

[Since90+2]

A manager always takes blame for a poor result. We won Scottish Cup without having to beat Celtic.

And did Killie not beat Celtic at home? Very different to having to win at Celtic Park.

[LaMotta]

There is no excuse for our forwards blasting easy chances over. Team selection was fine.The team selection was shocking. The performance and result proved it. Queens Park just hammered Kelty by six. Making 6 changes was poor decision making and it is likely to cost us. Not getting in a back and forth with you that's my final word on the matter, but can't believe anyone can think otherwise.

[Springbank]

There is no excuse for our forwards blasting easy chances over. Team selection was fine.

No it wasn't

We lost

We played horrendous lazy midfielders

They got suckered

[Since90+2]

When do they (Smellies) start European games?

I think they are already in the CL proper so it won't be till early September.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

He should have learnt when he seen it happen under a previous manager , sorry but he messed up on this one .

Correct. SDG has made a backside of this one. He should know fine well who can and can’t be trusted. Don’t change a winning team.

[lugz]

He definitely shoulders some of the blame, however, the players have to take some too. Doesn't matter how much of a second rate team was played, they should be beating Kelty Hearts in their sleep. Players should arguably be more embarrassed by that result than David Gray.

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Exactly this, seems to be a tendency on here just to always blame the manager, he’s put out 11 “professionals” who couldn’t get the job done against a part time side. At some point people need to realise that the majority of this squad just aren’t good enough.

[Nicho87]

Worst draw to get

That’s the risk you take when you don’t play your strongest 11

100% behind gray and team but that’s a harsh lesson with that draw

[MWHIBBIES]

A manager always takes blame for a poor result. We won Scottish Cup without having to beat Celtic.

An individual result? Not to me. Finishing cost us at Kelty. Just lazy typical .net crap to be blaming team selection. Actually watch the match.

[LaMotta]

Rangers at Home to St Johnstone so one of the games will def not be on the Saturday. Celtic fans thinking our game will be the Sunday for some reason.

[JohnM1875]

An individual result? Not to me. Finishing cost us at Kelty. Just lazy typical .net crap to be blaming team selection. Actually watch the match.Typical patronising pish.

I watched the match. If you asked Gray he will take the blame for that result. As almost every manager does when changing over half a squad. Simple really.

[Blaster]

An individual result? Not to me. Finishing cost us at Kelty. Just lazy typical .net crap to be blaming team selection. Actually watch the match.

You are the only person I know defending that selection. A poor result at Kelty is on the manager who made too many changes.

[MWHIBBIES]

The team selection was shocking. The performance and result proved it. Queens Park just hammered Kelty by six. Making 6 changes was poor decision making and it is likely to cost us. Not getting in a back and forth with you that's my final word on the matter, but can't believe anyone can think otherwise.

Performance wasn't horrendous. Created as much Vs Kelty as we did Vs QP. Finishing the only difference.

Only bad decision was Megwa left back. Otherwise as it should have been.

[tamig]

And did Killie not beat Celtic at home? Very different to having to win at Celtic Park.

Morton knocked Celtic out the League Cup about ten years ago at Parkheid. When Celtic were dominating things.

[Donegal Hibby]

There is no excuse for our forwards blasting easy chances over. Team selection was fine.

Team selection wasn't fine , I don't know why you keep saying that . It was a weakened team that had a young RB , playing LB with a young midfielder playing LW . That's just a couple of issues with it which has now probably cost us the chance to progress further in the competition... And before anyone says I'm writing us off ,when's the last time we've beaten them at parkhead btw ?.

[Billy Whizz]

Rangers at Home to St Johnstone so one of the games will def not be on the Saturday. Celtic fans thinking our game will be the Sunday for some reason.

Rangers are in Champions league games Tuesday before
Presume if they go through it will be the following Tuesday they play, so probably Sunday for Hibs

[MWHIBBIES]

You are the only person I know defending that selection. A poor result at Kelty is on the manager who made too many changes.

I'm not at all interested if I'm the only person. I manage to look beyond 11 names on a sheet and see what actually went wrong. And it was 100% our finishing and decision making in final 3rd, not because Levitt played over Newell.

[Trinity Hibee]

Team selection wasn't fine , I don't know why you keep saying that . It was a weakened team that had a young RB , playing LB with a young midfielder playing LW . That's just a couple of issues with it which has now probably cost us the chance to progress further in the competition... And before anyone says I'm writing us off ,when's the last time we've beaten them at parkhead btw ?.

Last beat them at 2010 with Galbraith goal I’m sure. Horrendous record there.

[blackpoolhibs]

Hahahahahaha well done Hibs, if there's a choice between doing things right or not, we choose not everytime.This club never learns.

[Billy Whizz]

Out of curiosity we’ve had Celtic at ER in both cups recently
When did we last play them in a cup tie at Parkhead

[flash]

I'm not at all interested if I'm the only person. I manage to look beyond 11 names on a sheet and see what actually went wrong. And it was 100% our finishing and decision making in final 3rd, not because Levitt played over Newell.

You're not the only person.

[MWHIBBIES]

Team selection wasn't fine , I don't know why you keep saying that . It was a weakened team that had a young RB , playing LB with a young midfielder playing LW . That's just a couple of issues with it which has now probably cost us the chance to progress further in the competition... And before anyone says I'm writing us off ,when's the last time we've beaten them at parkhead btw ?.

I keep saying it because it's true. Only Megwa was wrong really.

Do you genuinely think you can play same 11 players every match?

[Keith_M]

There's a rule in place for the Scottish Cup that allows up to 20% of available tickets for away fans, but does anybody know what the rule is in the League Cup?

I'm gonna guess it's the same as the League, which is basically whatever the home club feels like giving you... in this case just the 800 tickets behind a giant pillar... but hope I'm wrong.

[Blaster]

I'm not at all interested if I'm the only person. I manage to look beyond 11 names on a sheet and see what actually went wrong. And it was 100% our finishing and decision making in final 3rd, not because Levitt played over Newell.

So based on that it’s never the manager’s fault if we lose to a lower league team because we have better players??

Anyone who picks Levitt and Amos together to start a competitive game is to blame

[The Wireless]

I suppose if we can take anything out of our 2 matches against Celtic it will be that we will know without a shadow of a doubt how good this Hibs team are going forward and will show Manager and Board there is no hiding place for their work in progress project. This will be an acid test for all the players. 11 v 11 let’s bring it on and hopefully we get 2 performances which we can build on.

[Brightside]

I'm not at all interested if I'm the only person. I manage to look beyond 11 names on a sheet and see what actually went wrong. And it was 100% our finishing and decision making in final 3rd, not because Levitt played over Newell.

TBF I actually thought we played better football v Kelty than we did for much of the Peterhead game, certainly the first hal!

[Big_Franck]

The team selection was shocking. The performance and result proved it. Queens Park just hammered Kelty by six. Making 6 changes was poor decision making and it is likely to cost us. Not getting in a back and forth with you that's my final word on the matter, but can't believe anyone can think otherwise.

Very true. To suggest otherwise is odd. It's on Gray, for sure.

[NC1875]

If only we’d done some transfer business earlier, we’d have maybe had stronger options to play against Kelty.

Like when your striker can’t finish, you can replace him with another striker.

Ah well, the windows open for another few weeks the happy clappers keep telling us.

[DIXIHIBS]

Get beat of St. Mirren and Gray is under massive pressure before he really gets going.


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Massive pressure by losing first league game of the season... seriously. We are away to a team who qualified for Europe last season.

[Since90+2]

Morton knocked Celtic out the League Cup about ten years ago at Parkheid. When Celtic were dominating things.

There is obviously a chance we could win there but it would be a massive shock. We've not won there for 14 years and Celtic have had pretty impressive results in pre season.

If we were to win there it would be one of our biggest and most impressive results for god knows how long.

[Billy Whizz]

There's a rule in place for the Scottish Cup that allows up to 20% of available tickets for away fans, but does anybody know that the rule is in the League Cup?

I'm gonna guess it's the same as the League, which is basically whatever the home club feels like giving you... in this case just the 800 tickets behind a giant pillar... but hope I'm wrong.
I had a look this morning and couldn’t see anything
The fact that it’s an SPFL tournament, would suggest it’s the same as the league

[Albert Kidd 86’]

Will it be penalties or replay if a draw after 90?

[Pretty Boy]

Out of curiosity we’ve had Celtic at ER in both cups recently
When did we last play them in a cup tie at Parkhead

Scottish Cup replay in February 1997. Lost 2-0 after drawing 1-1 at home. Sure that was the last time.

We lost to Rangers away in the LC that season as well. Not a great year for favourable draws all round.

[Trinity Hibee]

Will it be penalties or replay if a draw after 90?

ET and pens

[babahibs]

Expect disappointment and you'll never be truly disappointed.That sounds really miserable

[LaMotta]

There's a rule in place for the Scottish Cup that allows up to 20% of available tickets for away fans, but does anybody know what the rule is in the League Cup? I'm gonna guess it's the same as the League, which is basically whatever the home club feels like giving you... in this case just the 800 tickets behind a giant pillar... but hope I'm wrong.The same rule isnt in place for the league cup. That said there is little chance Celtic will sell out this game, So I think we may end up getting the option of more tickets than usual. If its on the TV it will be debatable if we will need them.

[Albert Kidd 86’]

ET and pensOk, well we will just have to do them in 90.

[Albert Kidd 86’]

Look on the brightside- if we beat em twice in a week this forum will be the happiest place on the internet (again (2016))…

[babahibs]

I'm not at all interested if I'm the only person. I manage to look beyond 11 names on a sheet and see what actually went wrong. And it was 100% our finishing and decision making in final 3rd, not because Levitt played over Newell.You're not the only person

[LaMotta]

Very true. To suggest otherwise is odd. It's on Gray, for sure.We had twice as many shots on target in the Queens Park game than we did v Kelty. And of course Queens Park are a far superior team to Kelty. There is absolutely no doubt the changes impacted us negatively.

[Cammy]

Too much pessimism here, I’m looking forward to this, hopefully catch them cold and they underestimate us based on all the negativity here. Let’s face it you have to beat the better teams eventually to win the cup, let’s do it early. 😁

[Tricla]

We’ll have to beat them at some point.

Exactly

[blackpoolhibs]

TBF I actually thought we played better football v Kelty than we did for much of the Peterhead game, certainly the first hal!You are at it.

[hibeerealist]

You're not the only personConfirmation, there are two.

[B.H.F.C]

Massive pressure by losing first league game of the season... seriously. We are away to a team who qualified for Europe last season.

There is a lot more to it than that. We’re in a position where there is a huge disconnect and folk are already pissed off with what is/isn’t going on at the club.

If we back up one of the poorest results in our history with a couple of defeats in the league and being knocked out the cup then there will be a lot of pressure. Gray will get a bit more leeway than previous managers have but he won’t get an indefinite free pass. We could really be doing with a result at St Mirren and I really, really hope we get one.

[Stairway 2 7]

You play your strongest team if you don't and they get beat it's on you, it's pretty simple.

I don't get the we have to beat them at some point either we didn't when we won our last 3 cups, I'd rather have the easiest run possible. We've got a horrendous record there. We should have won every game in that group at a canter

[Stairway 2 7]

Exactly

Why?

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Celtic have just beaten Chelsea and Man City (friendlies I know) and Rangers are in disarray.
If Celtic aren't targeting and don't win the treble I will be flabbergasted.

[hibeerealist]

You're not the only person.Make that three.

[B.H.F.C]

The same rule isnt in place for the league cup. That said there is little chance Celtic will sell out this game, So I think we may end up getting the option of more tickets than usual. If its on the TV it will be debatable if we will need them.

If we stick to what we’ve said and cut their allocation the week before, they’ll give us the minimum they can. That’s the way they work.

[Just Alf]

An individual result? Not to me. Finishing cost us at Kelty. Just lazy typical .net crap to be blaming team selection. Actually watch the match.Agree with that.

Was it our 100% guaranteed our best team selection possible? - no
Was the team selected able to easily beat Kelty? - yes.

The fact they didn't was on the team.

[Tyler Durden]

Get beat of St. Mirren and Gray is under massive pressure before he really gets going.


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Did you not say the other day he’d be under serious pressure if we lost to Peterhead? You gonna do that every game?

Weird wee guy mentality

[TelaStella]

Out of curiosity we’ve had Celtic at ER in both cups recently
When did we last play them in a cup tie at Parkhead

1988 Scottish cup. 0-0, 1-0 them in the replay.


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[Stairway 2 7]

Did you not say the other day he’d be under serious pressure if we lost to Peterhead? You gonna do that every game?

Weird wee guy mentality

No need for that chat

[Billy Whizz]

Scottish Cup replay in February 1997. Lost 2-0 after drawing 1-1 at home. Sure that was the last time.

We lost to Rangers away in the LC that season as well. Not a great year for favourable draws all round.

I knew it was a while ago. I remember that game for a decision that Cadete, could play for Celtic as was called up for Portugal

We had a threadbare team for the replay

[CapitalGreen]

We had twice as many shots on target in the Queens Park game than we did v Kelty. And of course Queens Park are a far superior team to Kelty. There is absolutely no doubt the changes impacted us negatively.

We also had more shots in our away defeat against Andorra, can’t remember the manager getting defended after that shambles.

Putting a weakened team out smacks of the manager not taking our opponent seriously and that permeates through the team and is reflected in things like casual finishing and switching off when defending corners.

[B.H.F.C]

We had a threadbare team for the replay

Some things never change.

[TelaStella]

Scottish Cup replay in February 1997. Lost 2-0 after drawing 1-1 at home. Sure that was the last time.

We lost to Rangers away in the LC that season as well. Not a great year for favourable draws all round.

I stand corrected


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[Wheat Hound]

Kensell and IG probably happy with the draw to scoop up half the gate money, even though Celtic and Rangers in recent times have struggled to half fill their grounds for early stage league cup games.

[lugz]

We also had more shots in our away defeat against Andorra, can’t remember the manager getting defended after that shambles.

Putting a weakened team out smacks of the manager not taking our opponent seriously and that permeates through the team and is reflected in things like casual finishing and switching off when defending corners.

Isn’t that the point in a squad that you should be able to make changes and still win games especially against lesser opposition. If that’s not the case we’ll need to play our strongest 11 every game and be burnt out by Xmas.

[blackpoolhibs]

I remember Hibs missing quite a few chances in a cup final against St Johnstone, then losing to a goal from a cross, the type of goal we are still losiing now.Cant remember folk saying it was the players fault, it was all down to Jack Ross and his tactics.

[Nicho87]

Kensell and IG probably happy with the draw to scoop up half the gate money, even though Celtic and Rangers in recent times have struggled to half fill their grounds for early stage league cup games.

Probably sending an email to Celtic as we speak saying whilst we’re in town do you want a business seminar from the golden quadrant on how to run a football club for a small fee.

Work smart, not stupid

[LaMotta]

If we stick to what we’ve said and cut their allocation the week before, they’ll give us the minimum they can. That’s the way they work.True.Be interesting to see how many tickets we give them the week before. We need a win next week or it will be the lowest Hibs V Celtic crowd at ER for some time.

[LaMotta]

We also had more shots in our away defeat against Andorra, can’t remember the manager getting defended after that shambles. Putting a weakened team out smacks of the manager not taking our opponent seriously and that permeates through the team and is reflected in things like casual finishing and switching off when defending corners.
I remember Hibs missing quite a few chances in a cup final against St Johnstone, then losing to a goal from a cross, the type of goal we are still losiing now.Cant remember folk saying it was the players fault, it was all down to Jack Ross and his tactics.Both spot on.

[Caversham Green]

Ach getting rid of Celtc now just makes the final a bit easier.

[Donegal Hibby]

I keep saying it because it's true. Only Megwa was wrong really.

Do you genuinely think you can play same 11 players every match?

I think we could / should have played the same 11 in that particular game because it was away , on a tight wee ground that had a s*** pitch .

The carrot to be had in doing as well as you can in the group , was you got to avoid the OF which gives you a better chance of progressing ( helps club financially too) and getting to a semi or final.

We probably p***ed any chance of that away in what you called at the time " good management" in making 6 changes which was to many😞

[Pretty Boy]

I knew it was a while ago. I remember that game for a decision that Cadete, could play for Celtic as was called up for Portugal

We had a threadbare team for the replay

Leighton
Renwick
Miller
Grant
Dods
McCaffrey
Chris Jackson
Charnley
Darren Jackson
Wright

Cameron and one of the Miller brothers as used subs. Threadbare and then some.

[Keith_M]

Any chance we can finally move on from ******* the Kelty game?

Yes, it was a horrible result but Jeezo
:rolleyes:

[He's here!]

That sounds really miserable

Best way to approach supporting Hibs.

[MWHIBBIES]

We also had more shots in our away defeat against Andorra, can’t remember the manager getting defended after that shambles.

Putting a weakened team out smacks of the manager not taking our opponent seriously and that permeates through the team and is reflected in things like casual finishing and switching off when defending corners.

I'm fine with always playing our strongest side but we should be closing our youth set up as none of those players will ever get a first team opportunity again.

We beat QP 5-1 with Rudi starting over Youan who is better. Another ridiculous decision by Gray?

[Carheenlea]

It wouldn’t feel right winning the cup after losing to Kelty in the earlier rounds.

The draw we deserved. The Kelty result was so bad we should have been thrown out the tournament.

[BoomtownHibees]

Any chance we can finally move on from ******* the Kelty game?

Yes, it was a horrible result but Jeezo
:rolleyes:

It was horrible and this is the consequence of it, hence why it’s still being discussed

[Billy Whizz]

True.Be interesting to see how many tickets we give them the week before. We need a win next week or it will be the lowest Hibs V Celtic crowd at ER for some time.

The whole of the South is blacked out on the Hibs ticket site, so presume they are getting the full south

[Cabbage-Patch]

Get beat of St. Mirren and Gray is under massive pressure before he really gets going.


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I think there's a good chance we lose next Sunday but SDG won't be under pressure after 1st game of the league season

[Callum_62]

3-0 Hibs.

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[BoomtownHibees]

The whole of the South is blacked out on the Hibs ticket site, so presume they are getting the full south

Maybe we just aren’t selling tickets in there until the need to do so (which there won’t be)

[Donegal Hibby]

I'm fine with always playing our strongest side but we should be closing our youth set up as none of those players will ever get a first team opportunity again.

We beat QP 5-1 with Rudi starting over Youan who is better. Another ridiculous decision by Gray?

A lot of folk said on here that Kelty away was potentially more of a banana skin than Peterhead at home , you agree with that ?

[He's here!]

Any chance we can finally move on from ******* the Kelty game?

Yes, it was a horrible result but Jeezo
:rolleyes:

It's the 'move on' approach that just ensures another dreadful result a bit further down the line. There should be repercussions for losing a game to a team at that level.

Weakened team, missed chances...it's of no consequence. The result was purely and simply inexcusable and, as somebody else has pointed out, means that if we lose our opening league game (highly possible) Gray's already under pressure.

[Iain G]

It was horrible and this is the consequence of it, hence why it’s still being discussed

It is angsty nonsense, wasting time and energy on something you can't change. Move on and let's look forward to giving Celtic a game of it at Darkhead 😁

[McGruber]

An individual result? Not to me. Finishing cost us at Kelty. Just lazy typical .net crap to be blaming team selection. Actually watch the match.Just curiously playing devil's advocate - is it not one in the same thing? Team selection cost us / finishing cost us - would a stronger first 11 with a more mobile midfield not have created more and finished better? Beggars belief we couldn't beat them with the team we did play but suppose no real point harking back to it, it's done. Of course there's a chance of winning a one off cup game, Kelty proved that. The massive likelihood is we'll get turned over and we know it - the false bravado doesn't change that

[Callum_62]

It's the 'move on' approach that just ensures another dreadful result a bit further down the line. There should be repercussions for losing a game to a team at that level.

Weakened team, missed chances...it's of no consequence. The result was purely and simply inexcusable and, as somebody else has pointed out, means that if we lose our opening league game (highly possible) Gray's already under pressure.What repercussions do you propose?

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[He's here!]

I think there's a good chance we lose next Sunday but SDG won't be under pressure after 1st game of the league season

Lose to Saints and follow that up with two straight defeats to Celtic (an entirely feasible set of results) and he'll be feeling the pressure himself. Fingers crossed he and Hibs prove me wrong but the squad as it stands doesn't strike me as one that will deal well with a shaky start.

[LaMotta]

The whole of the South is blacked out on the Hibs ticket site, so presume they are getting the full southSay we gave them half the stand, surely it would still all be blocked out until the other three stands sold out though? We wouldn't sell Hibs tickets in that area until it was obvious there was need for them?Of course Hibs may have taken the decision to not cut Celtic's and only cut Rangers, which would be interesting.

[Carheenlea]

I think there's a good chance we lose next Sunday but SDG won't be under pressure after 1st game of the league season

The situation we find ourselves in is a consequence of the trigger happy managerial merry go round that Gordon/Kensell have adopted at Hibs. Bad run of results - manager sacked.

A bad run at the start of the season and they’ll be starting to think about change again.

What makes you think things will be any different for David Gray?

[LaMotta]

Lose to Saints and follow that up with two straight defeats to Celtic (an entirely feasible set of results) and he'll be feeling the pressure himself. Fingers crossed he and Hibs prove me wrong but the squad as it stands doesn't strike me as one that will deal well with a shaky start.I think if results are bad in 6 weeks time, the anger will turn fully to the board and CEO, rather than the manager.

[Not In The Know]

It wouldn’t feel right winning the cup after losing to Kelty in the earlier rounds.The draw we deserved. The Kelty result was so bad we should have been thrown out the tournament.Bit drastic… But it was a disgrace. The group we had should have been a cake walk. BTW I’m not blaming Gray. Our squad is a shambles. An absolutely mess of players getting paid 2/3 times their worth. It was very interesting listening to Radio Scotland commentators yesterday (Mikey Stewart). Who clearly gets on with MM as he’s punted him on air for a few jobs. Talking clear as day that we have a squad of over paid players, he directly referenced Levitt and Tavares and that they had been bought by people at the club who basically didn’t know what they were doing. I was gonna post when those two jokers came off the bench yesterday that’s 10/12 grand worth of weekly wages coming on, all will be well!

[Carheenlea]

Say we gave them half the stand, surely it would still all be blocked out until the other three stands sold out though? We wouldn't sell Hibs tickets in that area until it was obvious there was need for them?Of course Hibs may have taken the decision to not cut Celtic's and only cut Rangers, which would be interesting.

Are we definitely cutting Rangers allocation? I know it was talked about as possibility by the club, but don’t think I’ve seen any definitive announcement of ticket reductions?

[Pretty Boy]

I think if results are bad in 6 weeks time, the anger will turn fully to the board and CEO, rather than the manager.

And so it should.

Blaming the manager then changing the manager gives the dopamine hit of excitement and optimism brought about by change but at Hibs it's not tackling the real issue which lies elsewhere.

I don't think many are arguing otherwise now tbf so maybe the ire will be aimed upstairs if this season doesn't go to plan (whatever the ****ing plan is).

[Onceinawhile]

1988 Scottish cup. 0-0, 1-0 them in the replay.


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We've played them in the cup at ibrox more recently than that!

Bizarre the way that's worked out.

[Callum_62]

Jesus. Bit strong imo

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[Billy Whizz]

We've played them in the cup at ibrox more recently than that!

Bizarre the way that's worked out.

Mid 90’s. 0-0 draw and lost in the replay

[TrinityHFC]

Get beat of St. Mirren and Gray is under massive pressure before he really gets going.


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You going to post this every week?

Having concerns is one thing but you don’t act in any way like a Hibs supporter.

[greenpaper55]

It's the 'move on' approach that just ensures another dreadful result a bit further down the line. There should be repercussions for losing a game to a team at that level. Weakened team, missed chances...it's of no consequence. The result was purely and simply inexcusable and, as somebody else has pointed out, means that if we lose our opening league game (highly possible) Gray's already under pressure.Jesus wept, lose one league game and the manager should get the bullet ? Some folk on here need to get a grip, Gray will not be under any pressure like you say so best just calm down and chill as you are sounding hysterical!

[He's here!]

What repercussions do you propose?

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The wrong reaction IMO was for Gray to say something along the lines of 'the beauty of football is we can put it right in the next game'. That might be fine if we'd slipped up in a ding-dong title race and he didn't want to undermine the confidence of players busting a gut, but it sends the wrong message after losing to Kelty.

[hibsbollah]

Any chance we can finally move on from ******* the Kelty game?

Yes, it was a horrible result but Jeezo
:rolleyes:

The way some fans on here are picking at it like a malignant scab is more embarrassing than the result itself.

[Callum_62]

The wrong reaction IMO was for Gray to say something along the lines of 'the beauty of football is we can put it right in the next game'. That might be fine if we'd slipped up in a ding-dong title race and he didn't want to undermine the confidence of players busting a gut, but it sends the wrong message after losing to Kelty.Gray did say it's not acceptable and we went out and won our next game 4-0 going on 10

Im.still not sure what repurcussions you'd like to see?

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[He's here!]

Jesus wept, lose one league game and the manager should get the bullet ? Some folk on here need to get a grip, Gray will not be under any pressure like you say so best just calm down and chill as you are sounding hysterical!

That's not what I said. But when you combine our bang average squad with our board's hire and fire approach Gray will already be pedalling uphill if we start poorly coupled with an early cup exit.

As I said, fingers crossed he proves me wrong.

[He's here!]

Gray did say it's not acceptable and we went out and won our next game 4-0 going on 10

Im.still not sure what repurcussions you'd like to see?

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The point is the Kelty result all but doomed us to a tough draw in the knockout stages. That was something which couldn't be put right even if we had beaten Peterhead 10-0.

Someone else has suggested we should have been booted out the cup for a result like that. I wouldn't go that far but Saturday night curfew, players in for training on the Sunday would be a starting point.

[Alfred E Newman]

It’s probably a good draw for SDG. No one is expecting anything other than hopefully a modest defeat. If we were facing Ross County or Dundee he would have been under far more pressure.
When is the Scottish Cup draw by the way?

[Nicho87]

I still blame the recruitment team has not helped SDG

If he had more in depth players they could have been at a higher chance to win a game against lesser opposition

SDG I back but he played the wrong team as he maybe thought these guys deserved a chance or minutes, ultimately they’re not good enough

Recruitment team didn’t play I don’t need users to point that out but it does play a factor in giving the coach the best chance to win

I’d wipe the recruitment team out.

Where is the outcome of this ******g review as well

[JohnM1875]

The point is the Kelty result all but doomed us to a tough draw in the knockout stages. That was something which couldn't be put right even if we had beaten Peterhead 10-0.

Someone else has suggested we should have been booted out the cup for a result like that. I wouldn't go that far but Saturday night curfew, players in for training on the Sunday would be a starting point.

Have to admit I'm quite surprised so many folk seem to be pretty chill about losing to a league one team in a competitive match just cause we should have scored a few. We didn't. Isn't that in itself a worry?

That result has caused us a seeding spot in the next round and now there's a massive possibility we’re knocked out one of the two cups we have a chance of winning.

Pretty sure we budget for Hampden trips in both cups. Likely one target failed already.

I'm not solely blaming SDG by the way. I and I'm sure Gray thought we’d have more bodies in before the Kelty game.

[ancient hibee]

The point is the Kelty result all but doomed us to a tough draw in the knockout stages. That was something which couldn't be put right even if we had beaten Peterhead 10-0.Someone else has suggested we should have been booted out the cup for a result like that. I wouldn't go that far but Saturday night curfew, players in for training on the Sunday would be a starting point.Maybe they were in for training on the Sunday.It doesn’t matter what a manager says in the press it’s what he says in the dressing room that counts.

[SHODAN]

Any chance we can finally move on from ******* the Kelty game?

Yes, it was a horrible result but Jeezo
:rolleyes:

Beat Kelty and we're away at Spartans in the second round instead of at Celtic.

It's a meaningful discussion here tbh.

[LaMotta]

Are we definitely cutting Rangers allocation? I know it was talked about as possibility by the club, but don’t think I’ve seen any definitive announcement of ticket reductions?The headlines back in March suggested we were definitely cutting Rangers and Celtic allocations - the actual wording in articles alluded more to the fact that we may cut allocations. So I think you are right. Given relatively low season ticket sales, maybe there are second thoughts with regard to the potential loss of income. Id be surprised if we didnt at least cut Rangers allocation given the strength of the statement following the Sticky Buns cup game.

[hibsbollah]

Have to admit I'm quite surprised so many folk seem to be pretty chill about losing to a league one team in a competitive match just cause we should have scored a few. We didn't. Isn't that in itself a worry?

That result has caused us a seeding spot in the next round and now there's a massive possibility we’re knocked out one of the two cups we have a chance of winning.

Pretty sure we budget for Hampden trips in both cups. Likely one target failed already.

I'm not solely blaming SDG by the way. I and I'm sure Gray thought we’d have more bodies in before the Kelty game.

I think the point is it wasnt the last game we played. We humped another lower league team yesterday and it’s almost as if any feelgood factor we may have accrued is out the window because we drew Celtic, instead of say Ross County who were also seeded. The fact remains Gray picked a team he thought could beat Kelty and they didnt. If every post on this board is harking back to Kelty until the autumn ill just vote with my feet and stay away.

[LunasBoots]

Have to admit I'm quite surprised so many folk seem to be pretty chill about losing to a league one team in a competitive match just cause we should have scored a few. We didn't. Isn't that in itself a worry?

That result has caused us a seeding spot in the next round and now there's a massive possibility we’re knocked out one of the two cups we have a chance of winning.

Pretty sure we budget for Hampden trips in both cups. Likely one target failed already.

I'm not solely blaming SDG by the way. I and I'm sure Gray thought we’d have more bodies in before the Kelty game.

Our second string should have been good enough to beat Kelty....

[DIXIHIBS]

Some of the stuff on here is getting, at best, silly, more like hysterical. All the talk of repercussions etc is nuts. We had a bad result and as a result will probably go out next round. That's all. A new manager is in place and needs time to change things around. If Hibs 'supporters' are slaughtering Gray already, what chance has he got. If things aren't showing improvement after say 6 months then we can be concerned, but till then, calm doon.

[JohnM1875]

I think the point is it wasnt the last game we played. We humped another lower league team yesterday and it’s almost as if any feelgood factor we may have accrued is out the window because we drew Celtic, instead of say Ross County who were also seeded. The fact remains Gray picked a team he thought could beat Kelty and they didnt. If every post on this board is harking back to Kelty until the autumn ill just vote with my feet and stay away.

We should never have been in a position of being unseeded.

[LaMotta]

And so it should.Blaming the manager then changing the manager gives the dopamine hit of excitement and optimism brought about by change but at Hibs it's not tackling the real issue which lies elsewhere.I don't think many are arguing otherwise now tbf so maybe the ire will be aimed upstairs if this season doesn't go to plan (whatever the ****ing plan is).Agreed.

[JohnM1875]

Our second string should have been good enough to beat Kelty....

Yet they didn't

[LunasBoots]

Are we definitely cutting Rangers allocation? I know it was talked about as possibility by the club, but don’t think I’ve seen any definitive announcement of ticket reductions?

Think it'll be kicked into the long grass unfortunately

[LaMotta]

I think the point is it wasnt the last game we played. We humped another lower league team yesterday and it’s almost as if any feelgood factor we may have accrued is out the window because we drew Celtic, instead of say Ross County who were also seeded. The fact remains Gray picked a team he thought could beat Kelty and they didnt. If every post on this board is harking back to Kelty until the autumn ill just vote with my feet and stay away.It's not just because we drew Celtic though. There was far more chance of getting a tougher draw because of the Kelty loss. If we were seeded then there is no draw that people would have been really scared of.

[The Spaceman]

Meanwhile, beat Celtic and we can beat anyone on our way to the cup. Someone has to beat them and Sevco, might as well be us. Mon the Hibs.

[cubehindthegoal]

Beat Kelty and we're away at Spartans in the second round instead of at Celtic.

It's a meaningful discussion here tbh.

How long does it go on though? Calling it meaningful still is actually debatable. Certainly boring now. But the result has happened. We know we haven’t replaced losing our best striker yet. That’s a big issue, but again, going on about one freak result (a term that I’ve seen some of our fans call other crap results for other teams, but not when it’s our own team, 🤔) constantly negatively … we do need to move on at some point … thank f SDG and his team did, and got a 4-0 next game. But hey, Hibs fans here do love to shoot even that down. omg

[Springbank]

It's all about no9s really

Sign Simon Murray, win group undefeated, get seeded & home draw vs lower league team

Stick with DV, fire a costly blank, not seeded, end up with toughest possible draw

[babahibs]

Best way to approach supporting Hibs.Why would anyone do anything that makes them miserable?

[hibeerealist]

I think the point is it wasnt the last game we played. We humped another lower league team yesterday and it’s almost as if any feelgood factor we may have accrued is out the window because we drew Celtic, instead of say Ross County who were also seeded. The fact remains Gray picked a team he thought could beat Kelty and they didnt. If every post on this board is harking back to Kelty until the autumn ill just vote with my feet and stay away.We won't be cutting any O F allocations this season!For all those who think SDG did nowt wrong with his team selection v Kelty, would they be so passive if LJ, Maloney or Monty did the same with the same outcome? Happy Clappers need not answer as I know what yer response is.

[hibsbollah]

We should never have been in a position of being unseeded.

I dont really know what the point of this post is. If youre saying ‘DG needs to get a kicking a bit longer because it was a dereliction if duty putting out so many replacements, id answer, ‘No, he thought that team had enough in them to win the game’. I dont think it was a dereliction of duty, it just didnt work out.

[Brightside]

Massive pressure by losing first league game of the season... seriously. We are away to a team who qualified for Europe last season.

Don't worry, we will have another manager chased out the door in no time.

[Springbank]

Some of the stuff on here is getting, at best, silly, more like hysterical. All the talk of repercussions etc is nuts. We had a bad result and as a result will probably go out next round. That's all. A new manager is in place and needs time to change things around. If Hibs 'supporters' are slaughtering Gray already, what chance has he got. If things aren't showing improvement after say 6 months then we can be concerned, but till then, calm doon.

What if Hibs supporters aren't blaming sdg?

What if repercussions are 100% needed?

It's all about recruitment

Dundee & Hibs wanted Simon Murray

He bangs them in for Dundee while poor overpaid Dylan Vente can't score vs Kelty, Queens, Peterhead

Guess which team has momentum?

[JohnM1875]

I dont really know what the point of this post is. If youre saying ‘DG needs to get a kicking a bit longer because it was a dereliction if duty putting out so many replacements, id answer, ‘No, he thought that team had enough in them to win the game’. I dont think it was a dereliction of duty, it just didnt work out.

My point is we shouldn't have dropped points in a group containing Queens Park, Kelty Hearts, Elgin and Peterhead. I don't really think that's an unbelievable statement to make.

I also just said I don't fully blame SDG due to lack of recruitment in a later post.

[hibsbollah]

We won't be cutting any O F allocations this season!For all those who think SDG did nowt wrong with his team selection v Kelty, would they be so passive if LJ, Maloney or Monty did the same with the same outcome? Happy Clappers need not answer as I know what yer response is.

How do i know if im a happy clapper? Always wanted to know. Do i check my palms for calluses and welts? Or just the undersheet in the morning?

[Donegal Hibby]

Our second string should have been good enough to beat Kelty....

Was it the right call to do it in that game when we had the Watford game and what some of us thought was less a banana skin in Peterhead at home though ? .

[hibsbollah]

My point is we shouldn't have dropped points in a group containing Queens Park, Kelty Hearts, Elgin and Peterhead. I don't really think that's an unbelievable statement to make.

I also just said I don't fully blame SDG due to lack of recruitment in a later post.

Do you think its a dereliction of duty on his part? Or do you think he just made a mistake? If its the former, i think youre being unduly harsh. If its the latter, i think you should consider whether its better to move on to focus on St Mirren and the Celtic games. Im sure thats what Gray is doing.

[babahibs]

To suggest Gray is under pressure if he loses the first game of the league season is one of the most laughable suggestions I've read on here, absolute guff.