Scotland v Hungary- the pre-match build-up

[EGL2000]

As much as the focus will rightly be on Clarke it shouldn't be forgotten how bad the likes of McGregor and Robertson were. 2 who have a track record of failing to turn up when needed for Scotland

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Robertson was rank rotten.

[EGL2000]

Dunno. Don't think he was any worse than others. Mcginn was dreadful.

Mcginn did have a really poor tournament you expect much better from him.

[whiskyhibby]

Stonewall penalty and probably red card what is var looking at. Why was mcginn taken off

Never a penalty, he never moved towards the ball, he let the defender catch up with him, a contrived collision and he ends up on his arse

[Amit]

100%. McGregor in particular was utterly dreadful in all 3 games.

Agreed. The fact McGregor stayed on pitch was criminal. Too many sideway and backward passes. Very slow in decision making and passing. Takes too much time on the ball. He gets caught when in a good position to take a shot at goal, loses possession and Hungary go up and score the winner.


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[whiskyhibby]

Mcginn did have a really poor tournament you expect much better from him.

Agree to some point, but he can only play within the tactics Clarke deploys which were naive and woefully inept

[whiskyhibby]

Robertson was rank rotten.

TBF Robertson has had a really poor season by his standards for Liverpool, I would expect him to be moved out in the window

[Glory Lurker]

It is indeed poo to be Scottish.

Not even one world class player for decades despite churning them out back in the day. See also: no Scottish officials in a finals tournament again. It's our national game and even without the OF we have some of the highest average attendances in Europe. This sport matters here. The folk leading it are well short of what we need.

I know we all know that, and I'm not savvy enough to say what we would be doing. Just needed to moan.

Maybe a think tank?

[Iain G]

Dunno. Don't think he was any worse than others. Mcginn was dreadful.

This was the best he has played in the three games and he was driving forward, madness to take him and Gilmour off and leave the new Paul McStay on the pitch. Should have thrown Conway on up front as well and actually had a go!

[McD]

Agree to some point, but he can only play within the tactics Clarke deploys which were naive and woefully inept



I thought McGinn and Robertson looked exhausted even as the tournament started tbh, and both a bit off form coming into it too

[heretoday]

Never a penalty, he never moved towards the ball, he let the defender catch up with him, a contrived collision and he ends up on his arse

He grabbed the guy's shirt and threw him over judo-style.
No way a pen.

[McD]

This was the best he has played in the three games and he was driving forward, madness to take him and Gilmour off and leave the new Paul McStay on the pitch. Should have thrown Conway on up front as well and actually had a go!

:agree: Yeah agreed


Although comparing McGregor to mcstay is an insult to mcstay

[hibsbollah]

Dunno. Don't think he was any worse than others. Mcginn was dreadful.

Weird take. His best performance of the three and how he was taken off while McGregor stayed on was a mystery.

[Heisenberg]

He grabbed the guy's shirt and threw him over judo-style.
No way a pen.

That was after he got clattered in the back of the leg and was on his way down no?

[Lago]

Dunno. Don't think he was any worse than others. Mcginn was dreadful.
His club form had dropped as well.

[cabbageandribs1875]

i'm p@ssed off i only had the courage to put just £12 on a Hungary win

still more courage than steve clarke had though

[JimBHibees]

That is never a penalty, embarrassing

Clear pen careers through the back of his leg

[Fuzzywuzzy]

That was taken the yellow for a tackle on the halfway. Not sure who it was but the challenge should have been made. Would have shut down the move

[JimBHibees]

Weird take. His best performance of the three and how he was taken off while McGregor stayed on was a mystery.

Agree McGinn was Scotlands best player in the second half ludicrous sub

[Stuart93]

Clarkes run his race for me imo. Far too negative

[Greenio]

Anyone saying that's not a pen is at it

[Hibbyradge]

Gunn looks like he’s trying not to laugh 🙈

I thought he was going to cry.

[JimBHibees]

That is posh, you are listening to the apologists never get a penalty for that incident

Not sure you understand the laws

[Fuzzywuzzy]

I think Clarke will go and Moyes will take over

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

What a build up, let’s look at how rubbish Scotland have been over the years 🤦🏻*♀️

I didnt have any problem witb the build up tbh. Scotlands inability to qualify from the group stage of any competition is a ****in embarrassment. Ffs, Wales got to the semis in 2016.

[Tambo]

Heartache at the end, unlucky Scotland. Clear to see they do really lack that quality in the final 3rd.

Doak is highly regarded but can't really think of anyone else in the forward area.

[Glory Lurker]

Penalty all day long.

Not that we deserved to win, really.

[B.H.F.C]

Clarke got so much wrong. We were so negative.

Best players played out of position. Again.

We got what we deserved for me. Most folk coming out the game seem to think the same.

[JimBHibees]

Never a penalty, he never moved towards the ball, he let the defender catch up with him, a contrived collision and he ends up on his arse

He cuts across the defender who smashes into his leg couldn't be more blatant

[JimBHibees]

Robertson was rank rotten.

Robertson was very good v Swiss

[whiskyhibby]

Anyone saying that's not a pen is at it


Not sure I follow your logic as both the ref and VAR Didn’t consider it a pen…….

[JimBHibees]

He grabbed the guy's shirt and threw him over judo-style.
No way a pen.

After the defender had smashed into him

[whiskyhibby]

He cuts across the defender who smashes into his leg couldn't be more blatant

I do agree, but he played for it, ball was long gone from his control , therefore no pen

[JimBHibees]

Not sure I follow your logic as both the ref and VAR Didn’t consider it a pen…….

All experts in studio both bbc and rte did. Did you not watch the slow motion replays clearly showing Orban smashing into Armstrongs knee.

[JohnM1875]

Anyone saying that's not a pen is at it

Genuinely didn't think so at the time but seeing it back is scandalous! Did that not even go to VAR?

[JimBHibees]

I do agree, but he played for it, ball was long gone from his control , therefore no pen

He cut across the defender which is good forward play the clumsy defender clears him out he didn't play for it he was fouled

[hibsbollah]

I do agree, but he played for it, ball was long gone from his control , therefore no pen

Watch it again. I thought the same as you at first but the knee contact happens first.

[Greenio]

Not sure I follow your logic as both the ref and VAR Didn’t consider it a pen…….

Ref, I can get, called what he saw. VAR, embarrassing they never called it.

Not been one expert saying it wasn't clear cut

[Stuart93]

Know what makes it worse for me, both Switzerland (on the night) and Hungary really weren’t that good

[Glory Lurker]

I do agree, but he played for it, ball was long gone from his control , therefore no pen

Is that the rule (genuine question)? Does it not count as a foul?

[JimBHibees]

Know what makes it worse for me, both Switzerland (on the night) and Hungary really weren’t that good

Swiss are good

[green day]

Not sure I follow your logic as both the ref and VAR Didn’t consider it a pen…….

You don't think it's weird we didn't see the "potential penalty check" coming up?

At least then we would have known it was reviewed.

Wonder if the Hungary manager will be talking about poor ref decisions as he was about the Germany match?

[greenlex]

Fairly sure it was a penalty and because the ball never went out if play Var would be checking it but I also thought he was offside in the build up do VAR would therefore conclude it wasn’t a penalty because of that and we carried on

[Musselbound]

Dunno. Don't think he was any worse than others. Mcginn was dreadful.

I'd be hard pushed to say anyone in blue had a great game. tThe centre backs and the keeper pretty much did their job. Gilmour started well but faded. That was about it really.

[overdrive]

He grabbed the guy's shirt and threw him over judo-style.
No way a pen.

Yep Armstrong was the one doing the fouling

[Stuart93]

Swiss are good

They are but I don’t think they were at their best/that great against us

[JohnM1875]

Yep Armstrong was the one doing the fouling

Hungarian players knee makes contact with Armstrong first for me which makes Armstrong fall over and the shirt pull bring their player down.

[Real Emerald]

Quite happy the way the first 70 minutes went but we produced nothing. We’ve had way way better Scotland teams unable to qualify but this was a good opportunity, 🥲

[babahibs]

Armstrong stopped and the guy ran into him. Really don't think it was a pen. Wish it was but I think that's why it's not given.

He has control of the ball, he's allowed to slow down, the defender then crashes into the back of his leg, penalty 100% every day of the week etc

[Scottie]

Devastated by the result but as ma old man used to say ‘you can only pish with the cock you’ve got’

We just haven’t got the players.

[Pagan Hibernia]

It is indeed poo to be Scottish.

Not even one world class player for decades despite churning them out back in the day. See also: no Scottish officials in a finals tournament again. It's our national game and even without the OF we have some of the highest average attendances in Europe. This sport matters here. The folk leading it are well short of what we need.

I know we all know that, and I'm not savvy enough to say what we would be doing. Just needed to moan.

Maybe a think tank?

With the passion and support for the game that scottish football has it is desperately underachieving at club and international level. I don't know what the answer is.

[babahibs]

I thought he was going to cry.

Yep, weird comment that. He looked on the verge of tears to me.

[Greenio]

Yep Armstrong was the one doing the fouling

Absolute nonsense

First contact was the knee in the back of his leg

[SlickShoes]

With the passion and support for the game that scottish football has it is desperately underachieving at club and international level. I don't know what the answer is.

Smaller countries will always have peaks and troughs, Croatia are about the only small nation to be consistently good but that looks like coming to and end soon.

[babahibs]

Absolute nonsense

First contact was the knee in the back of his leg

Yep, Armstrong gets in between the ball and the defender and the back of his leg is clearly taken out by the defender, it's not even a debate.

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

Absolute nonsense

First contact was the knee in the back of his leg

100%, was a stone-Waller.

[hibsbollah]

Smaller countries will always have peaks and troughs, Croatia are about the only small nation to be consistently good but that looks like coming to and end soon.

Wheres our peak though? Dont tell me that was it :boohoo:

[SlickShoes]

Wheres our peak though? Dont tell me that was it :boohoo:

60s and 70s haha

We are still on an upward trajectory despite how disappointing this was. We have some good players coming through, it’d be nice to get one world class one in my lifetime though.

[Stuart93]

60s and 70s haha

We are still on an upward trajectory despite how disappointing this was. We have some good players coming through, it’d be nice to get one world class one in my lifetime though.

Someone should tell Moyes then, he doesn’t reckon we’ve got too much coming through that’s on the same level as some of the guys in the team just now

Doak an obvious outlier

[Mcbizz1998]

Anyone who doesn’t think that is a penalty is absolutely mental. Genuinely give up on watching football, you are clueless.

[BILLYHIBS]

60s and 70s haha

We are still on an upward trajectory despite how disappointing this was. We have some good players coming through, it’d be nice to get one world class one in my lifetime though.

I remember people moaning about a few of King Kenny’s performances for Scotland

Guy was a class act

Been a few top notch Scotland players over the years closest we have out the current crop Andy Robertson

[SlickShoes]

I remember people moaning about a few of King Kenny’s performances for Scotland

Guy was a class act

Been a few top notch Scotland players over the years closest we have out the current crop Andy Robertson

Robertson is world class, so my comment was harsh on him, but he’s world class in a position that in a Scotland team isn’t likely to cause other teams that many problems.

We still have a decent core for the next 4-5 years, hopefully some of the young players develop during that time so we don’t go through another 20 year slump.

[shetlandhibee]

Hungarian players knee makes contact with Armstrong first for me which makes Armstrong fall over and the shirt pull bring their player down.certain contact but for me Armstrong put his left leg across looking for contact at a pretty unatural stride,, but defo seen similar given..

[babahibs]

certain contact but for me Armstrong put his left leg across looking for contact at a pretty unatural stride,, but defo seen similar given..
Armstrong is allowed to do that, he can put his leg anywhere he wants, then he's fouled.

[shetlandhibee]

Armstrong is allowed to do that, he can put his leg anywhere he wants, then he's fouled. he played for the penalty i thought he should have stayed strong and gone for goal,,didnt need to do it IMO..but like i said ive seen them given,,:aok:

[BILLYHIBS]

Robertson is world class, so my comment was harsh on him, but he’s world class in a position that in a Scotland team isn’t likely to cause other teams that many problems.

We still have a decent core for the next 4-5 years, hopefully some of the young players develop during that time so we don’t go through another 20 year slump.

Yet Clarke took Robertson off ( as well as SJM what ? ) and the Magyars exploited that down our left

[K-Zazu]

Robertson is world class, so my comment was harsh on him, but he’s world class in a position that in a Scotland team isn’t likely to cause other teams that many problems.

We still have a decent core for the next 4-5 years, hopefully some of the young players develop during that time so we don’t go through another 20 year slump.

World class but he can’t cross a ball or deliver a decent set piece?

[Greenio]

he played for the penalty i thought he should have stayed strong and gone for goal,,didnt need to do it IMO..but like i said ive seen them given,,:aok:

I dont think he played for the pen at all. The ball slowed down he was just trying to stay behind it, then the boy takes him out with his knee from behind. Clear, clear pen.

Still, says a lot we/me! is banging on about not getting a pen - it's unfair but you make your own luck over the 90mins and we never did that

So so gutted, it was there for the taking

[Bobby's Cinema]

Know what makes it worse for me, both Switzerland (on the night) and Hungary really weren’t that good
Definitely opportunity missed, you don't want to have regrets when going out I feel we will do with our approach.

[Hibrandenburg]

Just got back to my hotel and am still seething. Apart from the poor officiating our tactics are woeful. I get that it's a positive to play out from the back but it does my nut in that that is the default every time we win the ball in midfield. I know the players don't have the same overview as fans sat up in the stands but the amount of times we won the ball in midfield and then reset by passing the ball back to the defence when there was an opportunity to go on the offensive was infuriating. The definition of madness is to keep doing the same thing and to expect a different outcome. There's more in that team but they had their hands tied by the negative game plan.

[Aldo]

If you look at the McTominay non foul and booking and then the Armstrong contact it makes a total mockery of the game.

Anywhere else on the park and the officials are giving a free kick to Armstrong.

That aside we were just not good enough in the final third.

[Gatecrasher]

Folk will focus on the no penalty but over the three games Scotland didn't deserve to go through, I would love to see a chart at the end of the group stage and see how far down (probably bottom) Scotland are for attempts and shots on target. They were utter ***** and boring to watch.

[B.H.F.C]

Folk will focus on the no penalty but over the three games Scotland didn't deserve to go through, I would love to see a chart at the end of the group stage and see how far down (probably bottom) Scotland are for attempts and shots on target. They were utter ***** and boring to watch.

3 shots on target in 3 games.

[Gatecrasher]

3 shots on target in 3 games.

Thanks for the info, absolutely embarrassing form.

[blackpoolhibs]

Fine margins and all that, we get the penalty and score and most likely these players are given the freedom of the country.

I did feel we made too many changes, Hungary at some stage had to come out and try and win the match, but we'd changed so many positions that we were all over the shop and unable to fully take advantage of the space and time we got on the ball.

Gilmour and McGinn should never have been replaced, no idea why they were and McGregor who i like was not.:boo hoo:

[Trinity Hibee]

If we get the pen like we should everyone is praising us for going through. It is fine margins.

I don’t see what any other manager gets out of that squad. We have little creativity upfront and can’t score goals. You won’t progress when that’s an issue.

[JimBHibees]

Fine margins and all that, we get the penalty and score and most likely these players are given the freedom of the country.

I did feel we made too many changes, Hungary at some stage had to come out and try and win the match, but we'd changed so many positions that we were all over the shop and unable to fully take advantage of the space and time we got on the ball.

Gilmour and McGinn should never have been replaced, no idea why they were and McGregor who i like was not.:boo hoo:

Agree don’t think there was any need for so many changes then looked like so many all over the place with no real shape. The penalty is the killer and Clarke has every right to be hacked off not getting that. Actually think it was a red card also as no attempt to play the ball. Shocking decision. Complete game changing decision. Agree about subs not a chance would have taken McGinn off he was playing the best he has in the tournament

[LaMotta]

Anyone who doesn’t think that is a penalty is absolutely mental. Genuinely give up on watching football, you are clueless.

:agree::agree::agree:

Absolutely astonishing some of the takes claiming it's not a pen. Utter nonsense from them.

[JimBHibees]

Folk will focus on the no penalty but over the three games Scotland didn't deserve to go through, I would love to see a chart at the end of the group stage and see how far down (probably bottom) Scotland are for attempts and shots on target. They were utter ***** and boring to watch.

They will focus on the penalty because it would potentially change everything.

[JimBHibees]

Yep Armstrong was the one doing the fouling

Wow 🤩

[easty]

Folk will focus on the no penalty but over the three games Scotland didn't deserve to go through, I would love to see a chart at the end of the group stage and see how far down (probably bottom) Scotland are for attempts and shots on target. They were utter ***** and boring to watch.

I agree we ultimately got out of the tournament what our play deserved, but that’s not how football works really. You can be outplayed and win, you can be terrible and go through. It should’ve been a penalty. We’ve every right to feel aggrieved.

[GreenCastle]

Yes it could have been a penalty but the fact is over 3 games and the games leading into the tournament Scotland have been pretty woeful.

Average players (even Robertson has peaked and talk Liverpool may look to bring in better). Some of the crosssing was terrible too - wasted several set pieces in 3 games.

Over rated / dull / negative manager - must win game and sets up not to lose. Apart from McGinn running down the wing - can’t remember a moment we were brave in final 3rd. Subs were badly timed in last 2 games.

Woeful team selection and tactics - you can’t expect to play same players 3 games in 10 days in difficult conditions - mentally and physically players didn’t look right and even players like Robertson getting injured near end due to over use.

Hungary were average but Scotland couldn’t figure out how to beat thier defensive line as we had zero creativity or players who could dribble 1v1 on the pitch.

Like the Euros - we celebrated a draw too soon (with England) and that mentality came back to get us in final must win game.

[Heisenberg]

Yes it could have been a penalty but the fact is over 3 games and the games leading into the tournament Scotland have been pretty woeful.

Average players (even Robertson has peaked and talk Liverpool may look to bring in better). Some of the crosssing was terrible too - wasted several set pieces in 3 games.

Over rated / dull / negative manager - must win game and sets up not to lose. Apart from McGinn running down the wing - can’t remember a moment we were brave in final 3rd. Subs were badly timed in last 2 games.

Woeful team selection and tactics - you can’t expect to play same players 3 games in 10 days in difficult conditions - mentally and physically players didn’t look right and even players like Robertson getting injured near end due to over use.

Hungary were average but Scotland couldn’t figure out how to beat thier defensive line as we had zero creativity or players who could dribble 1v1 on the pitch.

Like the Euros - we celebrated a draw too soon (with England) and that mentality came back to get us in final must win game.

Yeah the friendly performances in the run up to the tournament had me worried, we didn’t look convincing in any of them. Northern Ireland performance was exactly the same as what we saw last night.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Lewis Morgan needed to make that challenge on the half way line and taken the yellow card. He didnt. He also had no awareness that the scorer was anywhere near him

Ultimately we did **** all over the three games to deserve anything

[hibsbollah]

Lewis Morgan needed to make that challenge on the half way line and taken the yellow card. He didnt. He also had no awareness that the scorer was anywhere near him

Ultimately we did **** all over the three games to deserve anything

Kind of makes the point right there about weakness of squad. Lewis Morgan? To come on and change a game? Im sure a lot of us had forgotten who he was

[EGL2000]

Yet Clarke took Robertson off ( as well as SJM what ? ) and the Magyars exploited that down our left

Robertson was having a stinker rightly hooked in my opinion, looked like he'd totally ran out of energy as well.

[MWHIBBIES]

They will focus on the penalty because it would potentially change everything.

So would not being the worst side in the tournament. Statistics are dreadful. Created nothing across 3 matches.

[Since452]

It was as clear and obvious a penalty as you'll ever see but we'd still have had to score it and that's difficult when you can only kick the ball sideways or backwards.

[J-C]

Playing a back 3 and also 2 deep midfielders is basically negative tactics.

[Green forever]

For me , it wasn't a stonewall penalty, if the ref had given it then I doubt VAR would overturn the decision. Similarly, when the ref didn't give it then VAR wasn't going to intervene.
Penalty decision aside, all three games were poor at best and we did look the worst team at the finals.

[Lago]

1 win 12 games says it all for me.

[BILLYHIBS]

Robertson was having a stinker rightly hooked in my opinion, looked like he'd totally ran out of energy as well.

Agree shortly before that he did not make himself available for a decent counterattack

He is our Captain however and I felt he was deliberately trying not to be too gung ho and vulnerable to a counter attack

We do not lose that goal if he is still on the park

Would have liked to have seen Forrest on who has previous for us in major tournaments instead of Lewis Morgan who wasn’t even in the original squad

SJM looked in the mood and was causing them problems but got hooked

I also thought Shankland should have been on earlier and showed intelligence when he was on

But hey ho we are out history repeats itself

[McD]

World class but he can’t cross a ball or deliver a decent set piece?



So bad at those things that only Alexander-Arnold has more premier league assists as a defender?

[hibsbollah]

So bad at those things that only Alexander-Arnold has more premier league assists as a defender?

According to transfer market, he has 65 assists in almost 300 games for Liverpool, but last season? he had the grand total of two assists.

Which i think backs up the case that he’s not quite the player he was.

[overdrive]

According to transfer market, he has 65 assists in almost 300 games for Liverpool, but last season? he had the grand total of two assists.

Which i think backs up the case that he’s not quite the player he was.

Even when he's excellent for Liverpool he rarely seems to show anywhere near what he's doing for Liverpool when he's in a Scotland shirt. I used to think it was the difference in standard of player around him but a lot of the time for Scotland he struggles with stuff that doesn't rely on the standard of his teammates, like getting a cross past the first defender.

[McD]

According to transfer market, he has 65 assists in almost 300 games for Liverpool, but last season? he had the grand total of two assists.

Which i think backs up the case that he’s not quite the player he was.



Which has nothing to do with the post I was replying to


I’d agree he had a relatively quiet season by his own standards. He also missed a significant chunk of the season after being injured playing for Scotland, which would affect how many assists he could achieve.

[hibsbollah]

Which has nothing to do with the post I was replying to


I’d agree he had a relatively quiet season by his own standards. He also missed a significant chunk of the season after being injured playing for Scotland, which would affect how many assists he could achieve.

He missed 13 games with a shoulder injury, still played 30 games including cups and euros, i think it IS relevant that his production has fallen away. And just anecdotally when i watch him for Liverpool he doesnt influence games as much as he used to, just my opinion. Is he ‘world class?’ Not sure he is. The other ‘world class’ player we supposedly have is Tierney. He is a very very good player, but hes simply not as good as a 31 year old japanese internationalist or Ben White, which is why hes on loan in Spain.

[DIXIHIBS]

He missed 13 games with a shoulder injury, still played 30 games including cups and euros, i think it IS relevant that his production has fallen away. And just anecdotally when i watch him for Liverpool he doesnt influence games as much as he used to, just my opinion. Is he ‘world class?’ Not sure he is. The other ‘world class’ player we supposedly have is Tierney. He is a very very good player, but hes simply not as good as a 31 year old japanese internationalist or Ben White, which is why hes on loan in Spain.

Tierney and Robertson are both very good players who play at a high level, but world class...nah. We've not had that since Dalglish imo and thats over 40 years ago.

[babahibs]

It was as clear and obvious a penalty as you'll ever see but we'd still have had to score it and that's difficult when you can only kick the ball sideways or backwards.

McGregor would've stepped up and passed it back to the goalie.

[HibsGW]

Very disappointing last night. Some much tougher nations league games coming up for the rest of the year now too, need to try to get some wins before it becomes 1 win in 16 or something like that. On the flip of it, seen someone else say it’s a nations league group that should help prepare us for the Euros and World cups as we’ll be playing against the sort of opposition to challenge us.

Not sure exactly where this leaves us with Steve Clark, he’s done a great job but do feel that a change in outlook/a bit more of an attacking style is probably due.

[BILLYHIBS]

Douglas Ross MP says it was a definite penalty

STV News

[Scottie]

Douglas Ross MP says it was a definite penalty

STV News
Wouldn’t believe anything that **** says he’s got his eyes painted on 7 days a week

His mate must have told him it was a pen to us.

[Colr]

Douglas Ross MP says it was a definite penalty

STV News

To Rangers?

[Musselbound]

Robertson was having a stinker rightly hooked in my opinion, looked like he'd totally ran out of energy as well.

Agree that he was having a really poor game but it looked like we ended up playing with Kenny McLean at LB which was bizarre.

[SHODAN]

Douglas Ross MP says it was a definite penalty

STV News

That's convinced me then. Definitely not a penalty.

[Paul1642]

Not that we remotely deserved to go through but it will be pretty annoying if the scenario where we would have went through with 2 points comes to pass.

[whiskyhibby]

Tierney and Robertson are both very good players who play at a high level, but world class...nah. We've not had that since Dalglish imo and thats over 40 years ago.


Agree, Tierney always looked unconvincing at Arsenal, always injured and sporadic appearances, he looks bottom half EPL or EFL Championship level.

Robertson is about 2-3 years past his prime and I would expect he won’t get much if any game time at Liverpool next year

[MWHIBBIES]

Agree, Tierney always looked unconvincing at Arsenal, always injured and sporadic appearances, he looks bottom half EPL or EFL Championship level.

Robertson is about 2-3 years past his prime and I would expect he won’t get much if any game time at Liverpool next year

Tierney was mostly good for Arsenal, they just don't play with a traditional left back. If they did, I think he'd still be playing a part, injury permitting. He was exceptional during Covid and in their FA cup run.

[JimBHibees]

Agree, Tierney always looked unconvincing at Arsenal, always injured and sporadic appearances, he looks bottom half EPL or EFL Championship level.

Robertson is about 2-3 years past his prime and I would expect he won’t get much if any game time at Liverpool next year

Robbo will definitely be Liverpool left back

[whiskyhibby]

Robbo will definitely be Liverpool left back


Let’s see, not convinced

[Callum_62]

Tierney and Robertson are both very good players who play at a high level, but world class...nah. We've not had that since Dalglish imo and thats over 40 years ago.Robertson was easily one of the best left backs in the world the past 5 years

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[whiskyhibby]

Robertson was easily one of the best left backs in the world the past 5 years

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Aye right…….

[Callum_62]

Aye right…….Ofcourse he was

Statistically it's probably not even a debate but it's been pretty obvious playing in a great Liverpool side he was quality

I can't think of many that would have taken his place

Neither did Klopp it seems

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[BILLYHIBS]

Let’s see, not convinced

Looked knackered tbf probably down to Clarke not rotating his squad but who was he going to bring on ?

Some of his free kicks were poor delivery

Once we took him off Hungary took advantage down our left and might have scored a couple

Will be a big player for Liverpool next season

[MWHIBBIES]

Aye right…….

I mean he absolutely was. No debate there. He played in 3 European cup finals, winning 1. Had 3 90 point seasons in the Premier league, and a stupid amount of assists for a fullback. He has been absolutely excellent for Liverpool.

[LewysGot2]

Let’s see, not convinced

Out of interest on what basis?

Who is going to replace him? Tsimikas is back up. Gomez isn’t a LB though seems to have covered Robertson’s shoulder absence well enough in a needs must situation. Think Liverpool won’t be worrying about LB just yet and might have other priorities- possibly a striker. Nunez is a bit of an enigma and Jota often injured…

Robertson has far better players around him and an attacking formation at Liverpool. That’s the key difference between Scotland and domestic duties…

[babahibs]

Aye right…….

Lol

[McD]

Out of interest on what basis?

Who is going to replace him? Tsimikas is back up. Gomez isn’t a LB though seems to have covered Robertson’s shoulder absence well enough in a needs must situation. Think Liverpool won’t be worrying about LB just yet and might have other priorities- possibly a striker. Nunez is a bit of an enigma and Jota often injured…

Robertson has far better players around him and an attacking formation at Liverpool. That’s the key difference between Scotland and domestic duties…



Robertson will be one of the players that Slot will be relying on heavily, there’s no danger he’s not playing loads for Liverpool unless he picks up an injury, nonsensical to suggest he’ll be getting moved on or won’t play there. He’s also a big hero with the fans.


As to where he stands over the last 5 or so years, I’d love to see a list of left backs that have been as successful as him or played to as high a standard. It won’t be a very long list at all, and there’s not a club in Europe wouldn’t welcome him if he wanted to go.

[JimBHibees]

Let’s see, not convinced

Why wouldn’t he be when he has been in recent years. His assist numbers are ridiculous

[BILLYHIBS]

Robertson will be one of the players that Slot will be relying on heavily, there’s no danger he’s not playing loads for Liverpool unless he picks up an injury, nonsensical to suggest he’ll be getting moved on or won’t play there. He’s also a big hero with the fans.


As to where he stands over the last 5 or so years, I’d love to see a list of left backs that have been as successful as him or played to as high a standard. It won’t be a very long list at all, and there’s not a club in Europe wouldn’t welcome him if he wanted to go.
Yip has won everything there is to win just noticed he was awarded an MBE for services to football charity and young people

No bad for a wee boy from Glasgow rejected by Celtic :greengrin