Email/Letter to Hibs regarding away fans behaviour last night

[HNA1]

There seems to be a real strength of feeling among our fans that the singing and general behaviour from the Rangers support last night crossed a further line. The admin team have discussed this and feel we are in a position to coordinate a collective response that may carry a bit more weight with the club compared to individual emails. We want to make it clear this email and letter will only be on behalf of those who request to be included, it is not being sent on behalf of the site as a single entity.

We feel this will carry more weight if sent using real names, we understand people may not be comfortable posting these on an open forum so if you wish to be included please PM this admin account and we will have you included. Please also add the names of any friends and family who would like to be included. If you are a ST holder and would like that information included as well, again let us know.

The text of the email and letter we will be sending is below and we aim to send this before the game on Wednesday evening please let us know by 11am on Wednesday morning.



We are writing on behalf of the below signed Hibernian supporters to highlight the behaviour of the Rangers support at the game played on Sunday March 10th 2024 which was a clear breach of the clubs official policy regarding behaviour within our home stadium as quoted below.

'Disorderly conduct includes; · Conduct which stirs up or sustains, or is likely or is designed to stir up or sustain hatred or ill will against or towards individuals or groups of people because of:
· Colour, race, nationality, (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origin.
· Membership, or presumed membership, of a religious group or of a social cultural group with perceived religious affiliation'

Such behaviour is not an anomaly and is a repeated pattern stretching back decades. Rather than gradually improving over the years it is becoming worse. Whilst we accept the club cannot act on the wider issues in society, you are able to act on behaviour within our stadium. Extensive investigations into other incidents earlier this season and last season are evidence there is a will to tackle bigotry in certain circumstances. Listening to the songs of hatred being sung loud and clear from the Away stand is not only offensive , it is a continuing deterrent to some families within the Hibs support who simply will not attend when Rangers are the visitors. It also has a negative impact on the match day experience of those supporters who do attend.

We are asking the club to clarify why there is a reluctance to act on or even acknowledge such behaviour from supporters of Rangers FC? In the recent past this has included vile and threatening abuse of managers, players and other club employees and a further example of this was heard last night when one of our players was clearly seriously injured.

We are calling on Hibs to move on from the silence that has for too long typified the response to sectarianism and anti Irish racism in Scottish football. We ask the club to be true to it's own policy detailed above and to it's own stated zero tolerance policy on bigotry and sectarianism, a policy which is read out before every home game. This behaviour continues because no club is willing to challenge it publicly and the time has come for change.

[JohnM1875]

All for this, count me in

[Frazerbob]

Well done. PM sent......

[staunchhibby]

well done totaly agree

[Bostonhibby]

PM sent, thanks for making the effort.

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[DaveF]

You can add me to that. You know my name anyway so won't PM 🙂

[TamHibs]

Absolutely, I’ll PM you


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[HIBS NUTS]

Agree about old firm fans behaviour for many years now , absolutely sickening.
However when our own fans continue to throw items at opposing players, like last night, and at hearts game.
This might fall on deaf ears.
The young hibs lads , will be on borrowed time, behind the goals, if this continues.

[SiinDubai]

100 % agree with this. Bigotry has been accepted for far too long.
Well done

[oneone73]

PM sent, thank you

[Crab apple]

Well done admin team. Excellent initiative. Hopefully this is noted and acted upon at board level.

[1959 Hibby]

I don’t have a PM but please add my name if you can

[.Sean.]

PM sent

[Saint Hibee]

Stupid question: how do you send a PM? I want to sign.

[aljo7-0]

PM sent.

I've emailed myself already to be fair

[soul_driver]

PM sent.

[Pretty Boy]

Stupid question: how do you send a PM? I want to sign.

On desktop if you click on the username then select 'private message'. If it's mobile, same but the option will be 'send message'.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Completely agree. Worth adding a bit about how they're managing to overcrowd in the stands as well?

[.Sean.]

Might be worth posting this on the PM board aswell for those that don’t look at the main board

[Hiber-nation]

I don’t have a PM but please add my name if you can


Stupid question: how do you send a PM? I want to sign.


Click on HNA1 in first post and choose private message.

[Aldo]

PM sent

Cheers

[superfurryhibby]

Count me in.

Time Hibs stood up and challenged this ****show.

[1 8 7 5]

PM sent.

Very well done Hibs.net

[Saint Hibee]

On desktop if you click on the username then select 'private message'. If it's mobile, same but the option will be 'send message'.

Thanks - message sent.

[Cabbage7062]

Cheers. PM sent 👍🏽

[Steve20]

I’d rather the club called out the blatant cheating from referees.

I get that people are upset by the singing from the away section, but I’m more annoyed at the officials. Singing from supporters is not something that bothers me, as we’ve had our own support singing songs that could be called out.

[.Sean.]

I’d rather the club called out the blatant cheating from referees.

I get that people are upset by the singing from the away section, but I’m more annoyed at the officials. Singing from supporters is not something that bothers me, as we’ve had our own support singing songs that could be called out.
It’s said support that influences the refs.

[04Sauzee]

There seems to be a real strength of feeling among our fans that the singing and general behaviour from the Rangers support last night crossed a further line. The admin team have discussed this and feel we are in a position to coordinate a collective response that may carry a bit more weight with the club compared to individual emails. We want to make it clear this email and letter will only be on behalf of those who request to be included, it is not being sent on behalf of the site as a single entity.

We feel this will carry more weight if sent using real names, we understand people may not be comfortable posting these on an open forum so if you wish to be included please PM this admin account and we will have you included. Please also add the names of any friends and family who would like to be included. If you are a ST holder and would like that information included as well, again let us know.

The text of the email and letter we will be sending is below and we aim to send this before the game on Wednesday evening please let us know by 11am on Wednesday morning.



We are writing on behalf of the below signed Hibernian supporters to highlight the behaviour of the Rangers support at the game played on Sunday March 10th 2024 which was a clear breach of the clubs official policy regarding behaviour within our home stadium as quoted below.

'Disorderly conduct includes; · Conduct which stirs up or sustains, or is likely or is designed to stir up or sustain hatred or ill will against or towards individuals or groups of people because of:
· Colour, race, nationality, (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origin.
· Membership, or presumed membership, of a religious group or of a social cultural group with perceived religious affiliation'

Such behaviour is not an anomaly and is a repeated pattern stretching back decades. Rather than gradually improving over the years it is becoming worse. Whilst we accept the club cannot act on the wider issues in society, you are able to act on behaviour within our stadium. Extensive investigations into other incidents earlier this season and last season are evidence there is a will to tackle bigotry in certain circumstances. Listening to the songs of hatred being sung loud and clear from the Away stand is not only offensive , it is a continuing deterrent to some families within the Hibs support who simply will not attend when Rangers are the visitors. It also has a negative impact on the match day experience of those supporters who do attend.

We are asking the club to clarify why there is a reluctance to act on or even acknowledge such behaviour from supporters of Rangers FC? In the recent past this has included vile and threatening abuse of managers, players and other club employees and a further example of this was heard last night when one of our players was clearly seriously injured.

We are calling on Hibs to move on from the silence that has for too long typified the response to sectarianism and anti Irish racism in Scottish football. We ask the club to be true to it's own policy detailed above and to it's own stated zero tolerance policy on bigotry and sectarianism, a policy which is read out before every home game. This behaviour continues because no club is willing to challenge it publicly and the time has come for change.

Tried to send you a pm , not sure if you received it. Can you PM me if you didn't get anything from me.

[SteveHFC]

Sent pm.

[Pete70]

PM sent

[Pytheas]

PM sent.

If it was Moriah-Welsh down unconscious and those animals were singing Die Black ******** then action would already have been taken. It's Anti-Irish racism and its time the complicit, senile ********s at the top of our game are made to sweat whenever they sing it.

[Haymaker]

PM sent.

[Ardenttwo]

There seems to be a real strength of feeling among our fans that the singing and general behaviour from the Rangers support last night crossed a further line. The admin team have discussed this and feel we are in a position to coordinate a collective response that may carry a bit more weight with the club compared to individual emails. We want to make it clear this email and letter will only be on behalf of those who request to be included, it is not being sent on behalf of the site as a single entity.

We feel this will carry more weight if sent using real names, we understand people may not be comfortable posting these on an open forum so if you wish to be included please PM this admin account and we will have you included. Please also add the names of any friends and family who would like to be included. If you are a ST holder and would like that information included as well, again let us know.

The text of the email and letter we will be sending is below and we aim to send this before the game on Wednesday evening please let us know by 11am on Wednesday morning.



We are writing on behalf of the below signed Hibernian supporters to highlight the behaviour of the Rangers support at the game played on Sunday March 10th 2024 which was a clear breach of the clubs official policy regarding behaviour within our home stadium as quoted below.

'Disorderly conduct includes; · Conduct which stirs up or sustains, or is likely or is designed to stir up or sustain hatred or ill will against or towards individuals or groups of people because of:
· Colour, race, nationality, (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origin.
· Membership, or presumed membership, of a religious group or of a social cultural group with perceived religious affiliation'

Such behaviour is not an anomaly and is a repeated pattern stretching back decades. Rather than gradually improving over the years it is becoming worse. Whilst we accept the club cannot act on the wider issues in society, you are able to act on behaviour within our stadium. Extensive investigations into other incidents earlier this season and last season are evidence there is a will to tackle bigotry in certain circumstances. Listening to the songs of hatred being sung loud and clear from the Away stand is not only offensive , it is a continuing deterrent to some families within the Hibs support who simply will not attend when Rangers are the visitors. It also has a negative impact on the match day experience of those supporters who do attend.

We are asking the club to clarify why there is a reluctance to act on or even acknowledge such behaviour from supporters of Rangers FC? In the recent past this has included vile and threatening abuse of managers, players and other club employees and a further example of this was heard last night when one of our players was clearly seriously injured.

We are calling on Hibs to move on from the silence that has for too long typified the response to sectarianism and anti Irish racism in Scottish football. We ask the club to be true to it's own policy detailed above and to it's own stated zero tolerance policy on bigotry and sectarianism, a policy which is read out before every home game. This behaviour continues because no club is willing to challenge it publicly and the time has come for change.

Singing”Die you Fenian ******* as Boyle was carried of on a stretcher. How low can you get. Count me in with your post

[Pytheas]

The letter is very well written, might I suggest including the actual phrase that was sung towards Boyle? Something about when you see it written down...

[04Sauzee]

We are at the point where supporters, fans with young families are talking about not going to Rangers games. We are asking supporters to renew their season tickets. If supporters are missing home games against Rangers and potentially Celtic will fans decide to to renew and buy tickets game to game?

Oh and very good email/letter

[Scooter]

Can you send another one about the refs/var and inconsistent decisions between the old firm and Hibernian please

[Northernhibee]

It’s said support that influences the refs.

And who the refs support.

[matty_f]

Happy to put my name to it.

[hibeerealist]

PM sent well done this is long overdue

[weecounty hibby]

Done. As I said in my message they also need reminded that folk, like me, will still not have bought their STs yet. This could have a bearing on whether they do or not. The hun behaviour and Scottish footballs overt favouring of one team is genuinely making me consider why to bother. Good luck with this tho

[DunblaneHibby]

There seems to be a real strength of feeling among our fans that the singing and general behaviour from the Rangers support last night crossed a further line. The admin team have discussed this and feel we are in a position to coordinate a collective response that may carry a bit more weight with the club compared to individual emails. We want to make it clear this email and letter will only be on behalf of those who request to be included, it is not being sent on behalf of the site as a single entity.

We feel this will carry more weight if sent using real names, we understand people may not be comfortable posting these on an open forum so if you wish to be included please PM this admin account and we will have you included. Please also add the names of any friends and family who would like to be included. If you are a ST holder and would like that information included as well, again let us know.

The text of the email and letter we will be sending is below and we aim to send this before the game on Wednesday evening please let us know by 11am on Wednesday morning.



We are writing on behalf of the below signed Hibernian supporters to highlight the behaviour of the Rangers support at the game played on Sunday March 10th 2024 which was a clear breach of the clubs official policy regarding behaviour within our home stadium as quoted below.

'Disorderly conduct includes; · Conduct which stirs up or sustains, or is likely or is designed to stir up or sustain hatred or ill will against or towards individuals or groups of people because of:
· Colour, race, nationality, (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origin.
· Membership, or presumed membership, of a religious group or of a social cultural group with perceived religious affiliation'

Such behaviour is not an anomaly and is a repeated pattern stretching back decades. Rather than gradually improving over the years it is becoming worse. Whilst we accept the club cannot act on the wider issues in society, you are able to act on behaviour within our stadium. Extensive investigations into other incidents earlier this season and last season are evidence there is a will to tackle bigotry in certain circumstances. Listening to the songs of hatred being sung loud and clear from the Away stand is not only offensive , it is a continuing deterrent to some families within the Hibs support who simply will not attend when Rangers are the visitors. It also has a negative impact on the match day experience of those supporters who do attend.

We are asking the club to clarify why there is a reluctance to act on or even acknowledge such behaviour from supporters of Rangers FC? In the recent past this has included vile and threatening abuse of managers, players and other club employees and a further example of this was heard last night when one of our players was clearly seriously injured.

We are calling on Hibs to move on from the silence that has for too long typified the response to sectarianism and anti Irish racism in Scottish football. We ask the club to be true to it's own policy detailed above and to it's own stated zero tolerance policy on bigotry and sectarianism, a policy which is read out before every home game. This behaviour continues because no club is willing to challenge it publicly and the time has come for change.
Count me in

[flash]

PM sent. The singing while one of our players was lying unconscious was the final straw for me.

[Jack]

I've signed.

I'm going to regret this but ...

Would dotnet accept a list of names from the HibeesBounce?

[DaveF]

I've signed.

I'm going to regret this but ...

Would dotnet accept a list of names from the HibeesBounce?

Why not?

[flash]

I've signed.

I'm going to regret this but ...

Would dotnet accept a list of names from the HibeesBounce?

That's a great idea.

[Jack]

Why not?

Just doing what I think is right by applying for permission from Admin.

[Allant1981]

Pm sent

[hibeelin]

Pm sent

[lyonhibs]

I've signed.

I'm going to regret this but ...

Would dotnet accept a list of names from the HibeesBounce?

I was going to say The Bounce admins and .net could surely combine forces here.

PM has duly been sent, the Huns behaviour in the stands is where we should focus our collective ire/efforts because there's a feasible vehicle that can enact change if they do wish as far as league ticket allocations etc go - the club.

[HNA1]

I've signed.

I'm going to regret this but ...

Would dotnet accept a list of names from the HibeesBounce?

Of course.

As said in the OP it's not restrictive to members of the site or on behalf of the site. It's for all fans.

The more the merrier.

[gbhibby]

Count me in

[DaveF]

Why not?

Fair enough. Sorry, my response appeared terse - wasn't meant to be.

[ACLeith]

My support added.

[Jack]

Of course.

As said in the OP it's not restrictive to members of the site or on behalf of the site. It's for all fans.

The more the merrier.

Thanks. I'll make sure the list is 8n on time.

[Jack]

Fair enough. Sorry, my response appeared terse - wasn't meant to be.

No terseness taken 😆

[7heaven]

PM sent

[Weststandwanab]

Count me in

and me. P M sent

[Bishop Hibee]

PM sent.

[Bridge hibs]

Pm sent

[Libby Hibby]

Count me in please…what do I need to do?

[NthCarolinaHibs]

Pm sent..

[Libby Hibby]

PM Sent

[wee Stevie]

Pm sent

[Dublin07]

Pm sent

[Kojock]

The SPL & SFA hierarchy are aware. All TV companies BBC, SKY, Viaplay etc are aware, every newspaper reporter and media outlet are aware, every football club and their respective supporters are aware, even the Scottish Government are aware. The silence from all of them is deafening and as such they are all complicit in condoning such behaviour. Scotland's shame to which a blind eye is being turned. WHY ??

[GreenPJ]

Good email but when we talk about opposition fan behaviour when some of our own are STILL throwing things onto the pitch we automatically undermine the message - 'get your own house in order first'.

It just gives them, the media, the authorities to undermine the complaint - it shouldn't but it does.

This may be unfair to Block 7 but the vape that came on the pitch last night must have come from that area and therefore assuming someone in that group - BK needs to speak to them and they need to self-police better.

[JasonC1875]

PM sent

[killie-hibby]

PM sent

[Peanut Shaz]

PM sent

[VoltaireHibs]

This might sound a bit weird, and it probably is, but that's the way my brain works...but if we really want to expose them I would actually let them back en masse for the final game (if we get them at ER) and I would mic up their section of the stand and let their songs blast out of the PA. Yes, it would be bizarre and unorthodox, but it would also leave no one in any doubt, and the BBC would have no choice but to either cut the broadcast or explain what was happening.

There would be no hiding place for the hun hordes. Undeniable accountability.

Also, the publicity this would attract would be off the scale. No chance for carpet sweeping, nothing to see here.

[silverhibee]

Agree about old firm fans behaviour for many years now , absolutely sickening.
However when our own fans continue to throw items at opposing players, like last night, and at hearts game.
This might fall on deaf ears.
The young hibs lads , will be on borrowed time, behind the goals, if this continues.

We ban our fans for these incidents, Rangers fans get away with it every game, and the club Rangers don’t do anything about what there fans do at ibrox, time to make a stand against them no matter what some of our fans do.

[plhibs]

Yeah i'm all for this.

[silverhibee]

It’s said support that influences the refs.

And also gives there players a lift.

[Smartie]

PM sent.

Thank you and well done for having the initiative to make this happen.

[dannyobrien43]

Pm sent

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[Hibernia&Alba]

Signed

[andrew70]

100% PM Sent. Time to call it out.

Sectarianism and cheating refs.

[blackpoolhibs]

PM sent.

[The Baldmans Comb]

A brave iniative and well done for making this happen. 👍

[snedzuk]

PM sent - there was an excellent post on another thread earlier from, I think, Springbank regarding The Rangers and Celtc (two cheeks etc), but this is a ball that needs to start rolling somewhere, so kudos for getting something together.

[Carheenlea]

Good email but when we talk about opposition fan behaviour when some of our own are STILL throwing things onto the pitch we automatically undermine the message - 'get your own house in order first'.

It just gives them, the media, the authorities to undermine the complaint - it shouldn't but it does.

This may be unfair to Block 7 but the vape that came on the pitch last night must have come from that area and therefore assuming someone in that group - BK needs to speak to them and they need to self-police better.

A Hibs fan has been banned from Hibs games following the Edinburgh derby. The offence was pre match apparently and not one of the milssile throwers, but it shows that the club are not hiding from sanctioning our own if they see fit.

[GordonHFC]

PM sent

[davidbee1875]

PM sent

[coldingham hibs]

Pm sent, would be good if HSL got on this as well.

[Quadrophenia]

Pm sent

[Helensburghhibs]

Pm sent, would be good if HSL got on this as well.

A big statement would be if we could use our hsl money to buy out the south stand for the next fixture

[gbhibby]

The Sun is running a story on this. The Daily Ranger as well.

[DaveF]

The Sun is running a story on this.

I wouldn't normally ask, but link?

[gbhibby]

I wouldn't normally ask, but link?https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/12173547/hibs-write-rangers-fans-songs-hatred-sectarianism-irish-racism/
I feel so dirty now.

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[O'Rourke3]

PM sent. Well done

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[gbhibby]

I wouldn't normally ask, but link?https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/leading-hibs-group-slam-rangers-32328293
Sorry but here is the link.

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[coldingham hibs]

Just add £20 to season tickets & an extra of £1 to match day tickets on the proviso that Rangers and Celtic get 1000 tickets. That should help cover any financial loss.

[brog]

You can add me to that. You know my name anyway so won't PM 🙂

Excellent, exact same as Dave! I'm a ST holder but even if I didn't live in London I would not go to ER when The Rangers are there.

[Green4Go07]

PM sent

[gbhibby]

If we ban them the loss in ticket sales is approx £140000, based on the projected turnover of £15m its less than 1% of turnover

So is it a huge hit in the grand scheme of things to make a stand.

[Mo1]

:agree::agree::agree::agree::agree:
There seems to be a real strength of feeling among our fans that the singing and general behaviour from the Rangers support last night crossed a further line. The admin team have discussed this and feel we are in a position to coordinate a collective response that may carry a bit more weight with the club compared to individual emails. We want to make it clear this email and letter will only be on behalf of those who request to be included, it is not being sent on behalf of the site as a single entity.

We feel this will carry more weight if sent using real names, we understand people may not be comfortable posting these on an open forum so if you wish to be included please PM this admin account and we will have you included. Please also add the names of any friends and family who would like to be included. If you are a ST holder and would like that information included as well, again let us know.

The text of the email and letter we will be sending is below and we aim to send this before the game on Wednesday evening please let us know by 11am on Wednesday morning.



We are writing on behalf of the below signed Hibernian supporters to highlight the behaviour of the Rangers support at the game played on Sunday March 10th 2024 which was a clear breach of the clubs official policy regarding behaviour within our home stadium as quoted below.

'Disorderly conduct includes; · Conduct which stirs up or sustains, or is likely or is designed to stir up or sustain hatred or ill will against or towards individuals or groups of people because of:
· Colour, race, nationality, (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origin.
· Membership, or presumed membership, of a religious group or of a social cultural group with perceived religious affiliation'

Such behaviour is not an anomaly and is a repeated pattern stretching back decades. Rather than gradually improving over the years it is becoming worse. Whilst we accept the club cannot act on the wider issues in society, you are able to act on behaviour within our stadium. Extensive investigations into other incidents earlier this season and last season are evidence there is a will to tackle bigotry in certain circumstances. Listening to the songs of hatred being sung loud and clear from the Away stand is not only offensive , it is a continuing deterrent to some families within the Hibs support who simply will not attend when Rangers are the visitors. It also has a negative impact on the match day experience of those supporters who do attend.

We are asking the club to clarify why there is a reluctance to act on or even acknowledge such behaviour from supporters of Rangers FC? In the recent past this has included vile and threatening abuse of managers, players and other club employees and a further example of this was heard last night when one of our players was clearly seriously injured.

We are calling on Hibs to move on from the silence that has for too long typified the response to sectarianism and anti Irish racism in Scottish football. We ask the club to be true to it's own policy detailed above and to it's own stated zero tolerance policy on bigotry and sectarianism, a policy which is read out before every home game. This behaviour continues because no club is willing to challenge it publicly and the time has come for change.

[hibsforeurope]

Well done, totally support this. Pm on way

[Cabbie1875]

Im In PM sent

[Vault Boy]

Add me please :aok:

[Svengali]

PM sent. S

[Chorley Hibee]

Add me please.

[green day]

PM sent

[CentreLine]

PM sent. Very much support this action. In the same way I would support Hearts taking action against our support, following the dreadful behaviour by some at the derby, this needs sorted out. The vile chant was only one of many abuses we have put up with for decades.

I am dead against banning opposition support from games all together. That said, I would like the club to ban the the rangers fans from our next game v them. This, on the understanding that they would be welcome back in increasing numbers from next season. Provided they showed improvement in behaviour they would go back to having the whole stand. The atmosphere at football needs fans of both clubs but that atmosphere has become unacceptably toxic.

To paraphrase Kevin Keagan, I would love it if the game they were barred from proved to be the title decider.

[jeffers]

I think from the discussion at the AGM there is definitely a will from the club to do something about it. I don’t expect this to just be brushed under the carpet.

[HappyAsHellas]

PM sent, hope this gets something done

[WeAreHibs]

PM sent. Thank you!

[Ringothedog]

PM sent

[CentreLine]

I think from the discussion at the AGM there is definitely a will from the club to do something about it. I don’t expect this to just be brushed under the carpet.

Definitely in full agreement with this. I expect the letter to be pushing against an open door from within he club. I fully expect the barriers to come from SPFL and SFA.

It has become common for teams to walk off when players are racially abused. This behaviour is racist but with a sectarian twist. It’s time for action across Scottish football.

[.Sean.]

About time. The club should be embarrassed for themselves it has come to this without them acting before now. Could have been avoided if they’d done the right thing and not put Old Firm £s before morals. Hibs, and every other board in the league outside the OF, have allowed this sectarianism/ anti Irish racism go on unchallenged and swept under the manky carpet for far too long. This would’ve been put to bed way before now had it been about skin colour for example.

[jeffers]

Definitely in full agreement with this. I expect the letter to be pushing against an open door from within he club. I fully expect the barriers to come from SPFL and SFA.

Going further I’d like to see all the clubs come together to start asking hard questions about the behaviour of the OF and calling out the number of questionable decisions they get from officials on pretty much a weekly basis. If there is a will changes can happen.

[brianmc]

Count me in. PM sent.

[Bob Box Fish]

Count me in PM sent

[john rossi]

Count me in hate this sectarian vitricol

[Malonga's Cat]

Count me in! PM sent.

[Falkirk Hibby]

Many thanks for taking the time and effort to collate this. For far too long we have been angered, dismayed and disgusted by the behaviour of the majority of visiting rangers support and hope this is the start of a momentum for change.

PM sent

[truehibernian]

Good stance to take and fully supportive - I’d have so also asked to see the last four match (supposedly impartial) delegate reports for our games v The Rangers to examine whether the sectarian signing in particular was highlighted. I’d also do a FOI to see if it’s been logged on the police incident logs.

[stoneyburn hibs]

PM sent

[Ringothedog]

If we ban them the loss in ticket sales is approx £140000, based on the projected turnover of £15m its less than 1% of turnover

So is it a huge hit in the grand scheme of things to make a stand.

Agreed but some things are more important than money. This is one of them.

[john rossi]

Count me in hate this sectarian vitricol

[CentreLine]

Think this has broken just late for the early evening news programs but all least BBC covered Martin Boyle’s injury.

[OstKurve Hibs]

Agree about old firm fans behaviour for many years now , absolutely sickening.
However when our own fans continue to throw items at opposing players, like last night, and at hearts game.
This might fall on deaf ears.
The young hibs lads , will be on borrowed time, behind the goals, if this continues.

Give ut a rest mate, we're talking about them not us, ours are isolated incidents by individuals, the stickies are collectively a bunch of **** bags who does this every single week.

[Dazzjw1875]

Add me please also.

[truehibernian]

Agreed but some things are more important than money. This is one of them.

Put the HSL money into the club coffers and that covers the two home games next season ? Very worthy social cause too, eliminating bigotry from the stands.

[Broxburn Greens]

Support this 100% PM sent.

Said last night I am considering not going back when playing them as it just boils my blood and not worth the stress.


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[Aldo]

Good stance to take and fully supportive - I’d have so also asked to see the last four match (supposedly impartial) delegate reports for our games v The Rangers to examine whether the sectarian signing in particular was highlighted. I’d also do a FOI to see if it’s been logged on the police incident logs.

Regarding your last sentence when doing an FOI i would ask if the sectarian singing has been noted/entered into the Match/Event Commanders Policy/Event Log.


The Hibs Safery officer may also have information pertaining to this.

[truehibernian]

Regarding your last sentence when doing an FOI i would ask if the sectarian singing has been noted/entered into the Match/Event Commanders Policy/Event Log.


The Hibs Safery officer may also have information pertaining to this.

I’ll wager the Safety Managers report v them would be a blank page mate (sadly) - hopefully you’ll read between the lines there. If not blank there’ll be more on it about our support 😫

[hibbykeef]

PM sent.

[Doh Rae Me]

PM sent, hope I've done it OK :thumbsup:

[Aldo]

I’ll wager the Safety Managers report v them would be a blank page mate (sadly) - hopefully you’ll read between the lines there. If not blank there’ll be more on it about our support [emoji31]

Totally understood and probably correct. Was thinking out aloud.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Pm sent


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[cammy1969]

Pm sent


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[LunasBoots]

If we ban them the loss in ticket sales is approx £140000, based on the projected turnover of £15m its less than 1% of turnover

So is it a huge hit in the grand scheme of things to make a stand.

Exactly, while we can't sell out our own end the club aren't going to turn down cash like that as much as we all want them to especially if we are looking to make profits or settle debts etc, the problem has been there for years, the football authorities even now have no interest in sorting it, they are powerless because of the club voting system.

[The_Sauz]

PM Sent :thumbsup:

[Keith_M]

I am delighted to see you guys taking action and fully support you in this.

PM sent

[Carheenlea]

You never know, this might start to gain momentum and find that fans of other clubs start to voice their dissatisfaction and similarly relay their concerns to their clubs over the issue of sectarianism and the lack of any great will from clubs to address it.

If it gets the debate properly into the public domain, collectively there may be a chance of perhaps taking bigger steps into trying to eradicate the poison from our game. The issue is largely ignored by the broadcasters and rather than upset certain people they feel it best to just pretend it doesn’t exist rather than challenge.

The biggest worry of course is that a Rangers response, and particularly their fans, would be to batten down the hatches and ramp the hatred up even more in defiance.

[pacorosssco]

There appears to be an issue with my pms but I'll email club to say I want my name added

[The_Sauz]

Support this 100% PM sent.

Said last night I am considering not going back when playing them as it just boils my blood and not worth the stress.


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I choose not to go last night for the very reason's mentioned in the admins post. It's the first time since Gary MacKay won a medal that I have missed a SC home tie.

[04Sauzee]

Have sent a PM or I tried to, don't think it's sending for some reason.

[Scorrie]

PM sent. Let’s get more media coverage on this. Now is the time to take a stand

[The Keeper]

PM sent

[Tipperaryjack]

Having the same difficulty as 04 Sauzee.
Happy for my name to be added.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Have tried to send a PM. Fully support this action. Thanks for co-ordinating

Regards,
Jamie

[Nicho87]

I’m an atheist but I married an Irish background catholic woman.

Part of being blessed by the Catholic Church marrying us was we agreed to bring our kids up if we had any as catholics.

When I was younger the bigot stuff you kind of just get on with, it’s the old firm, it’s Scottish football.

Now a bit older and more importantly kids who are all still a few years of regularly attending Easter road.

I can 100% say I would never take any of my kids to a match involving rangers or Celtic. It’s vile, awful behaviour. Hibs are no saints and we have had our moments like every club but last night was a real eye opener.

I really hope things change and quickly.

The 21st century, sad, it really is.

Edit: please add me and plus 4 family members to the list.

[hibsbollah]

thanks for doing this.

[RoYO!]

I am clicking send message, and it keeps deleting the message content with no sign of the message in my sent messages. Any thoughts? Thanks!

[greenlex]

I’d support this wholeheartedly. The Boyle situation last night was beyond “unacceptable banter” . I don’t expect them to clap him off but that’s just unacceptable. Between that and the Ron Gordon tribute that’s enough. I’d support not giving them anything at all.

[CentreLine]

The mad thing is that these dummies don’t realise Hibernian FC has been an inclusive club for more than a century. No religious alignment at all.

[The Captain....]

I’d support this wholeheartedly. The Boyle situation last night was beyond “unacceptable banter” . I don’t expect them to clap him off but that’s just unacceptable. Between that and the Ron Gordon tribute that’s enough. I’d support not giving them anything at all.Same for me...I don't want any of them in the stadium. A total ban is the only way to go, reducing their tickets will achieve nothing.

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[Kato]

The mad thing is that these dummies don’t realise Hibernian FC has been an inclusive club for more than a century. No religious alignment at all.They don't look into things that deeply.

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[Northernhibee]

There’s a post on the Scottish Cup Instagram page from what appears to be a Rangers fan calling our two players a got sent off“monkeys”.

Have messaged their page alerting them to it this morning and it remains up. I don’t know how to check if it’s been read but it absolutely needs to be removed.

[overdrive]

There’s a post on the Scottish Cup Instagram page from what appears to be a Rangers fan calling our two players a got sent off“monkeys”.

Have messaged their page alerting them to it this morning and it remains up. I don’t know how to check if it’s been read but it absolutely needs to be removed.

I reported it to Instagram as well

[hibsbollah]

There’s a post on the Scottish Cup Instagram page from what appears to be a Rangers fan calling our two players a got sent off“monkeys”.

Have messaged their page alerting them to it this morning and it remains up. I don’t know how to check if it’s been read but it absolutely needs to be removed.

Sectarianism and racism, theres a very thin line between them. In that particular clubs case, im not sure theres much difference. Hence the chelsea/rangers links.

[Keith_M]

Being reported on in The Daily Record

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/leading-hibs-group-slam-rangers-32328293

[SteveHFC]

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/2024/march/11/supporter-conduct---enough-is-enough/

Well Done Hibs

[JohnM1875]

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/2024/march/11/supporter-conduct---enough-is-enough/

Well Done Hibs

About time. Only taken billionaires buying in to make it happen.

Hopefully not reducing the Edinburgh derby tickets just now though.

[Stuart93]

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/2024/march/11/supporter-conduct---enough-is-enough/

Well Done Hibs

Brilliant statement and decision

Rangers fans will go into absolute meltdown.

Hope they aren’t including hearts in that.

Will probably see us being locked out of Ibrox

[MWHIBBIES]

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/2024/march/11/supporter-conduct---enough-is-enough/

Well Done Hibs

Sue perb

[Stuart93]

We can’t turn into the old firm and be reducing the allocation for derbies, it’s what makes them imo

[we are hibs]

Excellent. Been waiting on that from Hibs for years.

[Alex Trager]

Brilliant statement and decision

Rangers fans will go into absolute meltdown.

Hope they aren’t including hearts in that.

Will probably see us being locked out of Ibrox

Aye that’s not very clear from Hibs. Hopefully not cutting Hearts’ away allocation.

[Del Boy]

Well done Hibs. Put them down to about 800 tickets in top tier and just leave rest of stand empty.

[MWHIBBIES]

Aye that’s not very clear from Hibs. Hopefully not cutting Hearts’ away allocation.

It mentions pyro and sectarian singing. It's clearly not aimed at Hearts.

[Stuart93]

It mentions pyro and sectarian singing. It's clearly not aimed at Hearts.

Hearts fans have also been guilty of having pyro in ER no?

[SteveHFC]

Well done Hibs. Put them down to about 800 tickets in top tier and just leave rest of stand empty.

I wouldn’t give them anything.

[SteveHFC]

Aye that’s not very clear from Hibs. Hopefully not cutting Hearts’ away allocation.

What it does is send out a warning to all clubs including hearts

[hibee_girl]

Aye that’s not very clear from Hibs. Hopefully not cutting Hearts’ away allocation.

I'd be surprised if it meant Hearts tbh, they've not really been any trouble.

[MWHIBBIES]

Hearts fans have also been guilty of having pyro in ER no?

Nothing like the old firm. The odd smoke bomb.

[Stuart93]

I wouldn’t give them anything.

Wouldn’t be against this, we’ll only lose our paltry 800/900 tickets at Ibrox & parkhead anyway

[Stuart93]

Nothing like the old firm. The odd smoke bomb.

Aye that’s true

[hibee_girl]

Hearts fans have also been guilty of having pyro in ER no?

Not a whole stands worth to be fair!

[truehibernian]

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/2024/march/11/supporter-conduct---enough-is-enough/

Well Done Hibs

Superb from the club - just need to ensure that the police and stewards are absolutely “on it” at games as they’ll come in their masses with their fake tickets and try and storm gates and double up at turnstiles as they’ve done every season. Having no Old Firm support at games would be truly an excellent precedent to set ! Ban them all and give them zero tickets Hibs 🙏

[SteveHFC]

Wouldn’t be against this, we’ll only lose our paltry 800/900 tickets at Ibrox & parkhead anyway

Rangers will probably not give us an allocation for Ibrox in return.

[Pretty Boy]

It's amazing isn't it?

A proposed letter from a few disgruntled fans on a fans forum gets a bit press coverage and a statement from the club is out within hours with swift, decisive and much needed action promised.

Mabe, just maybe, it suggests if the press don't continue to ignore what is staring them in the face then something will be done.

Time for us as fans to do our bit as well and get extra tickets sold to prove the club are right to cut allocations.

[SteveHFC]

Nothing like the old firm. The odd smoke bomb.

Yes but you cut it all out from now on 1 flare or 1 song is 1 too many

[gbhibby]

Well done Hibs. Put them down to about 800 tickets in top tier and just leave rest of stand empty.
Give them no tickets

[truehibernian]

Rangers will probably not give us an allocation for Ibrox in return.

Good 👍 they’re Scotland’s shame alongside Celtic 👍 couldn’t care less not going there anymore.

[The Modfather]

A good statement from Hibs. Only omission is the problem with coked up neds, presumably in most supports and not just ours.

[truehibernian]

Give them no tickets

This 👍

[SteveHFC]

Good 👍 they’re Scotland’s shame alongside Celtic 👍 couldn’t care less not going there anymore.

Same mate.

[gbhibby]

Rangers will probably not give us an allocation for Ibrox in return.
Good 900 less fans having to listen to their bile.

[GonzoReturns]

It's amazing isn't it?

A proposed letter from a few disgruntled fans on a fans forum gets a bit press coverage and a statement from the club is out within hours with swift, decisive and much needed action promised.

Mabe, just maybe, it suggests if the press don't continue to ignore what is staring them in the face then something will be done.

Time for us as fans to do our bit as well and get extra tickets sold to prove the club are right to cut allocations.

This is the important part, we need to ensure as supporters that we don’t disadvantage the club for actions we want them to take.

[Smartie]

Aye that’s not very clear from Hibs. Hopefully not cutting Hearts’ away allocation.

Hopefully not… but why not keep everyone guessing for a bit, thinking about their own behaviour?

[truehibernian]

Hearts fans have also been guilty of having pyro in ER no?

Maybe a watershed moment for both Edinburgh clubs to be united against bigotry and give both clubs zero tickets at any home games 👍it’s a good start to end it 👍

[brianmc]

Well played Hibernian.
Hopefully this is just the opening move against these bigots.

[Hibs90]

The seethe this has created already makes it worthwhile.

[PHeffernan]

It's amazing isn't it?

A proposed letter from a few disgruntled fans on a fans forum gets a bit press coverage and a statement from the club is out within hours with swift, decisive and much needed action promised.

Mabe, just maybe, it suggests if the press don't continue to ignore what is staring them in the face then something will be done.

Time for us as fans to do our bit as well and get extra tickets sold to prove the club are right to cut allocations.


It's almost as if season tickets for next season have just gone on sale.



Oh they have, what a coincidence.

Let the fun and statements begin.

[Jones28]

Excellent, I’m very proud of my club tonight.

First club to ban away fans who behave like ***** at every opportunity #pioneers

[JGS56]

Banning all O.F. fans from our ground will (hopefully) mean more of our fans will go to these games and we can put them into the South Stand.

Also I would be willing to pay a supplement to my season ticket to cover some of the cost or pay for a ticket to allow some local kids and helpers to get to these games.

[truehibernian]

Just hope this extends to Celtic too - they’re both rancid supporters ! Hope other clubs unite and support this.

[Jones28]

Just hope this extends to Celtic too - they’re both rancid supporters ! Hope other clubs unite and support this.

Can’t see it be anything else.

[Irish_Steve]

PM sent - both my son and I agree with the sentiments

[Aldo]

Brilliant.

We need to continue to call this out every single time.

This will hopefully shake things up a bit.

[SteveHFC]

Brilliant.

We need to continue to call this out every single time.

This will hopefully shake things up a bit.

Maybe they will boycott the games

[JimBHibees]

I’d support this wholeheartedly. The Boyle situation last night was beyond “unacceptable banter” . I don’t expect them to clap him off but that’s just unacceptable. Between that and the Ron Gordon tribute that’s enough. I’d support not giving them anything at all.

I would think most normal people realising a player was seriously injured and put in an ambulance would have clapped Boyle off.

[Aldo]

Maybe they will boycott the games

Maybe but I await the we won’t give you the Blue Pound crap.

[Jones28]

Maybe I awake the we won’t give you the Blue Pound crap.

Oh please let’s see the blue pound argument.

[Baldy Foghorn]

I for one, don't want our allocation cut through there, people on hear saying it's good, don't speak for me

[.Sean.]

Get that right round yous ya Rangers *****

:giruy2:

[WeeRussell]

I would think most normal people realising a player was seriously injured and put in an ambulance would have clapped Boyle off.

I think I managed to spot maybe half a dozen Huns applauding as he went off. And then one giving him the ‘******’ sign..

[hibsbollah]

The seethe this has created already makes it worthwhile.

Not fussed about the seethe. They will react how they always do.

Just really chuffed the club is doing the right thing. And that we played a small part on here in that.

[EskbankHibby]

Rangers fans spewing about this.

The whataboutery on show is absolutely breathtaking.

They just don’t get it.

Yes we have some ********s in our support. Yes there has been some dodgy behaviour from Hibs fans with some incidents over the years.

But 3500 Rangers fans singing to die a fenian ******* at a player being stretchered off with a head injury? Come on!

[truehibernian]

Rangers fans spewing about this.

The whataboutery on show is absolutely breathtaking.

They just don’t get it.

Yes we have some ********s in our support. Yes there has been some dodgy behaviour from Hibs fans with some incidents over the years.

But 3500 Rangers fans singing to die a fenian ******* at a player being stretchered off with a head injury? Come on!

Remember, this is a club Derek Ferguson was convinced wore orange due to their Dutch contingent of players - and he’s a “respected pundit” 👍

[Jones28]

Remember, this is a club Derek Ferguson was convinced wore orange due to their Dutch contingent of players - and he’s a “respected pundit” 👍

Dodds too.

[LewysGot2]

Rangers fans spewing about this.

The whataboutery on show is absolutely breathtaking.

They just don’t get it.

Yes we have some ********s in our support. Yes there has been some dodgy behaviour from Hibs fans with some incidents over the years.

But 3500 Rangers fans singing to die a fenian ******* at a player being stretchered off with a head injury? Come on!

It’s this.

We have a small smattering of ********s in our support. We don’t have thousands upon thousands of bigots. 90 min bigots or full fat ones, it matters not.

[JimBHibees]

I for one, don't want our allocation cut through there, people on hear saying it's good, don't speak for me

Don't see why it should mean Hibs get less at Ibrox but you never know.

[SteveHFC]

How I hope we finish in top 6 and they have to come back to ER with the title at stake.

[Scottie]

Not fussed about the seethe. They will react how they always do.

Just really chuffed the club is doing the right thing. And that we played a small part on here in that.
:agree: oh I do hope we are able to keep our full allocation on the 30th for our visit to them. The atmosphere will be toxic.

Well done each & everyone that has this movement started now. :not worth

[Hibs90]

Not fussed about the seethe. They will react how they always do.

Just really chuffed the club is doing the right thing. And that we played a small part on here in that.

100%.

But watching them seethe is also funny

[Not In The Know]

Official site not loading, both sides of the bigot brothers trying to access no doubt!


It would be shame if Hertz were included in this allocation cut. This would be the perfect opportunity for both the Edinburgh clubs to rise above the sectarian bile form the west.

[Silky]

Rangers will probably not give us an allocation for Ibrox in return.

Good. The place is a hole filled with some of the worst examples of the human race. Why anyone subjects themselves to that place escapes me!

[SHODAN]

Rangers will probably not give us an allocation for Ibrox in return.

And give us an excuse to ban them completely from ER? Please god yes.

[JimBHibees]

Good. The place is a hole filled with some of the worst examples of the human race. Why anyone subjects themselves to that place escapes me!

Supporting our team.

[CentreLine]

It's almost as if season tickets for next season have just gone on sale.



Oh they have, what a coincidence.

Let the fun and statements begin.

I think you may be miscalling this. The club AGM discussed this issue and today’s statement reflects exactly that discussion. Add to that the coverage already being given to the Hibs net initiative and we may just have some momentum. I see no room for cynicism in there.

[hibsbollah]

Good. The place is a hole filled with some of the worst examples of the human race. Why anyone subjects themselves to that place escapes me!

I love the place. Ive been there once in my life and Killen Sproule and OConnor rocked the place to its manky foundations. In fact i should probably go regularly as an unbeaten good luck charm.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Good. The place is a hole filled with some of the worst examples of the human race. Why anyone subjects themselves to that place escapes me!

To support.....

[Haymaker]

And give us an excuse to ban them completely from ER? Please god yes.

2x old firm games and 2x trips to Hibs... their away fans will be raging to miss that many.

Good. **** em.

[NAE NOOKIE]

PM sent from the bottom of my heart.

The bottom line here is that all clubs have their idiots. We certainly do, Hearts do and every other club in Scotland does to a greater or lesser degree. But what Hibs and none of the other non Ugly Sisters clubs have is concerted and en masse belting out of songs and chants rooted in and in support of religious bigotry ..... That has been as bad as I can ever remember it in the last few years from supporters of the Rangers, and that's in near 50 years going to Easter Road.

It's good to see that Hibs have picked up on this and released a statement of intent that in the opinion of the vast majority of our fans is long overdue. It would be good if fans of other clubs picked up on what our fans have done here and take action in the same vein.

We have waited decades for the clubs, the SFA and the SPFL to take meaningful action on this blight on our game. Time for a bit of fan power.

[Jack]

For those concerned about the loss of the 3,000 x bigot pounds take a moment to wonder why 6,000ish Hibs supporters weren't there.

I appreciate it was Mother's Day, a really crap kick off time and ST holders had to buy tickets.

If Hibs go as far as a complete ban on the Sevcoians and I believe they should, then they only have to convince half the missing Hibees to turn up. In my opinion they'd be pushing at an open door.

I also don't think it would take long for all of the 6,000 to turn up.

There will be supporters that won't buy season tickets because they won't go to new firm games and it's easy to get walk ups for any other game. Some would now buy season tickets.

More regular season ticket holders with a ticket for all home games, more support more everything that comes from that, more walk ups encouraged to join the bandwagon.

We should have done this sooner.

[Pagan Hibernia]

I love the place. Ive been there once in my life and Killen Sproule and OConnor rocked the place to its manky foundations. In fact i should probably go regularly as an unbeaten good luck charm.

On the rare occasions we get a win there, there's no better feeling.

Its a shame that even less Hibs fans will be there to experience our next win there, but this is a matter of right and wrong

[JohnM1875]

Rangers will probably not give us an allocation for Ibrox in return.

To be completely honest, they can go **** themselves.

**** of the earth and if that's the price we have to pay to keep their numbers limited at ER then so be it.

[truehibernian]

To support.....

You’re supporting a lot more than the players ( and a 90 minute game of football) by not going to that cesspit of bigotry BF - if every other club followed suit it would be tremendous and a watershed moment. Their fans are ****, and I don’t say that lightly as it’s most certainly not a ‘minority’ that they’d have you believe.

[Kato]

You’re supporting a lot more than the players ( and a 90 minute game of football) by not going to that cesspit of bigotry BF - if every other club followed suit it would be tremendous and a watershed moment. Their fans are ****, and I don’t say that lightly as it’s most certainly not a ‘minority’ that they’d have you believe.Anyone who says it's a minority or that they are only "90 minute bigots" is a liar.

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[04Sauzee]

2x old firm games and 2x trips to Hibs... their away fans will be raging to miss that many.

Good. **** em.

And the reduced number of tickets they get for Tynecastle.

[FastEddieFelson]

Interested to see how the media (in particular the ********s on sportsound) portray this.

[Baldy Foghorn]

You’re supporting a lot more than the players ( and a 90 minute game of football) by not going to that cesspit of bigotry BF - if every other club followed suit it would be tremendous and a watershed moment. Their fans are ****, and I don’t say that lightly as it’s most certainly not a ‘minority’ that they’d have you believe.

I think that's a bit unfair on the 900 hardy souls, who choose to follow the team everywhere. I hate bigotry, but I'd still want to follow the team

[Baldy Foghorn]

To be completely honest, they can go **** themselves.

**** of the earth and if that's the price we have to pay to keep their numbers limited at ER then so be it.

And another. So the ones who choose to follow the club, are to be penalised because sevco fans can't behave in 2024?

[Libby Hibby]

Why does everyone think Sevco will cut our Ibrox allocation? They didn’t with Hertz

[Bridge hibs]

Why does everyone think Sevco will cut our Ibrox allocation? They didn’t with Hertz

Hearts reasons are to allow their own fans/season ticket holders to take up the extra seats, same reason the rangers cut other clubs allocations

Our reasons are because of sectarian chanting etc, not because we have 10,000 on the waiting list for season tickets

The rangers play the victims though and will find a reason to further cut our allocation

[Hibs4185]

For those concerned about the loss of the 3,000 x bigot pounds take a moment to wonder why 6,000ish Hibs supporters weren't there.

I appreciate it was Mother's Day, a really crap kick off time and ST holders had to buy tickets.

If Hibs go as far as a complete ban on the Sevcoians and I believe they should, then they only have to convince half the missing Hibees to turn up. In my opinion they'd be pushing at an open door.

I also don't think it would take long for all of the 6,000 to turn up.

There will be supporters that won't buy season tickets because they won't go to new firm games and it's easy to get walk ups for any other game. Some would now buy season tickets.

More regular season ticket holders with a ticket for all home games, more support more everything that comes from that, more walk ups encouraged to join the bandwagon.

We should have done this sooner.

With the Foley money and the potential of better players, it might be the best thing ever having an extra 3000 seats.

It’s a gamble but if Foley, BK and the board back up the chat with investment, we will be onto a winner banning the old firm

[JohnM1875]

And another. So the ones who choose to follow the club, are to be penalised because sevco fans can't behave in 2024?

So what's your alternative? Just keep letting them away with it in the fear they might cut our allocation as well?

[The Spaceman]

Hearts reasons are to allow their own fans/season ticket holders to take up the extra seats, same reason the rangers cut other clubs allocations

Our reasons are because of sectarian chanting etc, not because we have 10,000 on the waiting list for season tickets

The rangers play the victims though and will find a reason to further cut our allocation

And we will just match them seat for seat. Rangers come out of this situation weaker regardless of any further cuts - you can’t deny a whole stand of them make a hell of a noise and give their team a lift. I’m delighted we’ve taken that boost away from them.

[Baldy Foghorn]

So what's your alternative? Just keep letting them away with it in the fear they might cut our allocation as well?

We have now put out statement and said we will cut their allocation. Good start. Up to SFA/SPFL to back along with government and Police Scotland.

I'm happy with Hibs stance, but I hope they don't reciprocate and cut our allocation.

People saying good if we get no tickets, doesn't factor in that some supporters want to go everywhere

[hibsbollah]

We have now put out statement and said we will cut their allocation. Good start. Up to SFA/SPFL to back along with government and Police Scotland.

I'm happy with Hibs stance, but I hope they don't reciprocate and cut our allocation.

People saying good if we get no tickets, doesn't factor in that some supporters want to go everywhere


If youre not able to, it would make no sense to blame anyone else but the club responsible.

[.Sean.]

And another. So the ones who choose to follow the club, are to be penalised because sevco fans can't behave in 2024?
I completely get where you’re coming from not wanting to miss a game there (I’ve seen us win there 4 or 5 times in person and it doesn’t get much better) and good on you that you don’t miss a game, but should Hibs tolerate 4000 of they racist cretins behaving like animals at our place and all that that brings just so we can have a wee pocket twice a season at Ibrox? Nah not for me

[green day]

We have now put out statement and said we will cut their allocation. Good start. Up to SFA/SPFL to back along with government and Police Scotland.

I'm happy with Hibs stance, but I hope they don't reciprocate and cut our allocation.

People saying good if we get no tickets, doesn't factor in that some supporters want to go everywhere

Have they reduced the St Mirren allocation?

eta - or the Hearts one?

I dont think they have.

[.Sean.]

So that’s

Celtic
St Mirren
Killie
Aberdeen
Hearts
Hibs

That have now cut their allocations. What a shame. Hopefully more follow suit

St Mirren and Killie have also publicly stated neither are worse off since cutting them down to one stand too, so if they our can manage I’m sure we’ll be just fine

Motherwell also cut them from two stands to one years ago

[Pretty Boy]

So that’s

Celtic
St Mirren
Killie
Aberdeen
Hearts
Hibs

That have now cut their allocations. What a shame. Hopefully more follow suit

St Mirren and Killie have also publicly stated neither are worse off since cutting them down to one stand too, so if they our can manage I’m sure we’ll be just fine

Motherwell also cut them from two stands to one years ago

There is a St Mirren fan on Twitter who posts their attendance stats and he regularly comments that the number of home fans in attendance at their games is consistently lower against Celtic and Rangers compared to other teams. Their biggest crowds this season have come against Hearts, Hibs and Kilmarnock.

It's hardly scientific but it probably adds a little bit of weight to the argument that some fans do stay away because of the opposition.

[BoomtownHibees]

There is a St Mirren fan on Twitter who posts their attendance stats and he regularly comments that the number of home fans in attendance at their games is consistently lower against Celtic and Rangers compared to other teams. Their biggest crowds this season have come against Hearts, Hibs and Kilmarnock.

It's hardly scientific but it probably adds a little bit of weight to the argument that some fans do stay away because of the opposition.

And I’m sure they’ve posted that the crowd has remained about the same since cutting them down to one stand meaning more home fans have attended

[One Day Soon]

Rangers will probably not give us an allocation for Ibrox in return.

That would be a massive win for us.

The paltry numbers we get at Ibrox means our support there is not going to sway referees or games more generally. However as has been pointed out elsewhere a pissed and charlied up - and therefore very noisy - full away end at ER gives the visiting team a massive boost. Taken together with their general behaviour I'd happily see no more than a completely token number of away supporters from the Ugly Sisters at ER.

[blackpoolhibs]

I think that's a bit unfair on the 900 hardy souls, who choose to follow the team everywhere. I hate bigotry, but I'd still want to follow the team

I understand that, but sometime there are bigger things than attending a football match.

They should still give us the bare minimum of 900, as it's only about 2 percent of their capacity, and we will probably half their support to around 10 percent.

Everyone wants to watch a Hibs side win at ibrox, but sometimes like today, there has to be a time where a stand is taken and sacifices made.

[One Day Soon]

There is a St Mirren fan on Twitter who posts their attendance stats and he regularly comments that the number of home fans in attendance at their games is consistently lower against Celtic and Rangers compared to other teams. Their biggest crowds this season have come against Hearts, Hibs and Kilmarnock.

It's hardly scientific but it probably adds a little bit of weight to the argument that some fans do stay away because of the opposition.


Let me give my pop psychology response to this.

Me and my son have season tickets. I drive to the game from the fringe of the South of the city (we probably should take the buses but that's a separate issue).

As I understand it the Council in its wisdom wants to close Holyrood Park, North Bridge and the Mound to North/South traffic. That means we will likely effectively HAVE to take buses and/or walk to the games.

My very first mental reaction to hearing what was to happen was 'there's no way we are going to Rangers games where we will have to either walk near or share buses with those people and all the hate that comes with it'.

[Kojock]

I think that's a bit unfair on the 900 hardy souls, who choose to follow the team everywhere. I hate bigotry, but I'd still want to follow the team

I look upon it as a service to the community because I’m depriving a horrible bigot from being there.

[HNA1]

Clearly the situation has changed since this thread was started. I don't think any of us predicted the press picking this up and running with it in the way they did.

We have had a discussion as a team and feel it is still right to send the email outlined in the OP. We have been contacted by several hundred people both from the site and elsewhere, the majority of whom are season ticket holders, who wished to be a signatory and indeed have been contacted by many people since Hibs statement still asking to be included and urging us still to send the correspondence. We feel it is correct that these voices are still heard by the club.

We will be making an amendment to the email to acknowledge Hibs statement last night, not only to acknowledge it but to place on record our support and to applaud the decision to listen to the concerns of fans and to have the bravery to act. We will of course post the final draft on here.

If you are not yet included on the list and would like to be please PM this account. Equally if you would now like your name removed given the situation has evolved, please also let us know and we will remove you.

[Bridge hibs]

Clearly the situation has changed since this thread was started. I don't think any of us predicted the press picking this up and running with it in the way they did.

We have had a discussion as a team and feel it is still right to send the email outlined in the OP. We have been contacted by several hundred people both from the site and elsewhere, the majority of whom are season ticket holders, who wished to be a signatory and indeed have been contacted by many people since Hibs statement still asking to be included and urging us still to send the correspondence. We feel it is correct that these voices are still heard by the club.

We will be making an amendment to the email to acknowledge Hibs statement last night, not only to acknowledge it but to place on record our support and to applaud the decision to listen to the concerns of fans and to have the bravery to act. We will of course post the final draft on here.

If you are not yet included on the list and would like to be please PM this account. Equally if you would now like your name removed given the situation has evolved, please also let us know and we will remove you.

Keep my names please and although Im sure we all welcome hibs statement it doesnt dilute the feeling of anger towards that lot. This has been going on for too long and fans throughout Scotland are scunnered by the reluctance of our hierarchy, Police or media to condemn their behaviour so hopefully your email to the club may be a trigger that will see further action being taken with other clubs speaking out too

[The Captain....]

I understand that, but sometime there are bigger things than attending a football match.

They should still give us the bare minimum of 900, as it's only about 2 percent of their capacity, and we will probably half their support to around 10 percent.

Everyone wants to watch a Hibs side win at ibrox, but sometimes like today, there has to be a time where a stand is taken and sacifices made.Well said..a stand needs to be made..and it looks like we're making it.

Every sympathy if those who want to go to support the team at ibrox may be affected. It's one club that's responsible for that, they should never have been allowed back in zombie form. We were all far better off without them.

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[snedzuk]

Having been to the community foundation offices in the south stand on a number of occasions, Id be interested to know how away allocations in that stand can be reduced and segregation enforced, unless the plan is to reduce the away allocation and leave the rest empty.

[BoomtownHibees]

Having been to the community foundation offices in the south stand on a number of occasions, Id be interested to know how away allocations in that stand can be reduced and segregation enforced, unless the plan is to reduce the away allocation and leave the rest empty.

It’s been done plenty of times before

[hibsbollah]

It’s been done plenty of times before

:agree: I was in the South Stand for the 5-5 Lennon aeroplane game, we got half they got half.

[hibee_girl]

Having been to the community foundation offices in the south stand on a number of occasions, Id be interested to know how away allocations in that stand can be reduced and segregation enforced, unless the plan is to reduce the away allocation and leave the rest empty.

It’s been done loads. We were moved there when the east was getting built, rangers just got half the stand instead of it all.

[CapitalGreen]

Having been to the community foundation offices in the south stand on a number of occasions, Id be interested to know how away allocations in that stand can be reduced and segregation enforced, unless the plan is to reduce the away allocation and leave the rest empty.

There’s doors that can be closed on the concourses to segregate both tiers.