Jair Tavares

[Dashing Bob S]

I think we wrote this guy off too soon. Another nice bit of rehab from Monty?

[Kato]

Seems to be gaining some confidence. Hopefully leads to him expressing himself a bit more and producing.

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[Mick O'Rourke]

I think we wrote this guy off too soon. Another nice bit of rehab from Monty?

:agree:

[Allant1981]

Personally thought he offered very little today

[JammyDoidger]

Looked a wee bit more confident today, didn't do too much tbh but he was disciplined, and was part of the team performance. Good to see him giving a bit of the old 'come on' to the east stand.

[SHODAN]

Good workrate, some flashes of talent there. Well done.

[Forza Fred]

Tbh thought he contributed very little

[1875Sean]

Seemed to put in a lot of effort but still some question marks about his quality on the ball

[Unseen work]

Personally think he’s better and seems alot more natural playing off the left.

Today, I thought he done good.

He was picking up some really good positions in midfield, however some of his play on it was either hurried and gave it away, or a bit slow and got tackled - I think it’s just decision making and getting used to the pace/intensity at this level which he’s getting used to.

Defensively I thought he was good and done well at tucking in to narrow the gaps of the Celtic midfield.

He can be pleased with his 80 minutes today, this week and last week are two performances to really build on for him

[Pretty Boy]

His work rate was spot on and he covers a lot of ground quicky.

He seemed to do a fair few difficult things right today and then fluff his lines with the simple part. In the 1st half he worked himself out a cul de sac of Celtic players, played a nice 1-2 then proceeded to make an easy 5 yard pass straight to a Celtic player. Defensively he was decent positionally and kept his discipline well when it wasn't always easy to do so as Celtic try to drag you all over the place.

I'm willing him to do well. He got a nice reaction from the crowd when he tried to whip them up today and got a well deserved good reception when he was subbed.

[Tricla]

I thought he did ok. No worse than anyone else and was fully committed. I hope he goes on to improve ala Miller.

[Kentao1985]

His performance today reminded me of drey wright. Power of running and done his defensive duties well but offered little going forward.

Hopefully with more game time his confidence picks up and starts showing the fans what he's all about

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[Jack]

It's the best I've seen him play for Hibs. I still don't think he's good enough for a starting slot and he needs to become stronger. There is hope where I thought there was none.

[overdrive]

It's the best I've seen him play for Hibs. I still don't think he's good enough for a starting slot and he needs to become stronger. There is hope where I thought there was none.

Where I’m at with him. He worked hard today but still I don’t think he did enough and is still very light weight

[Stairway 2 7]

Played well, his positioning is great and I was surprised at his great work rate, some poor simple passes but I'd judge that after regular games

He's young and probably younger than his age developmentwise due to the games played in his career

[hibee_girl]

I thought he did well today especially defensively which I wasn’t expecting.

[dp00]

Looked to me like team mates didn’t wanna pass to him

He seems to grow in confidence tho


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[Keepthefaith]

Looked to me like team mates didn’t wanna pass to him

He seems to grow in confidence tho


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Didn't want to pass to him? What utter bollocks. Thought he did really well today, great energy throughout, looked to play a positive pass each time and when he did make a mistake his tracking back to win the ball back was noticeably better. His first touch was spot on and the spin in the first half when he got hacked down was a lovely bit of skill.

Just note that we stopped Celtic from scoring today, which was helped by the workrate tracking back of him and youan. Give the laddie a break?

[Allant1981]

Didn't want to pass to him? What utter bollocks. Thought he did really well today, great energy throughout, looked to play a positive pass each time and when he did make a mistake his tracking back to win the ball back was noticeably better. His first touch was spot on and the spin in the first half when he got hacked down was a lovely bit of skill.

Just note that we stopped Celtic from scoring today, which was helped by the workrate tracking back of him and youan. Give the laddie a break?

Played really well is a total exaggeration

[Lancs Harp]

Thought he did well today, he gave the ball away too simply on occasion (wasnt alone there) but showed some nice touches he could well develop into a decent player. Thought Celtic got behind us more on the right when he went off and Levitt came on. Not noted for his defensive capabities but i thought our shape was better with him on.

[Musselbound]

Interesting to hear some say he did well defensively. I'm guessing that's why Monty played him there with Boyle up top? I've been thinking for a while we should put Boyle or Youan up front and play someone who offers a bit more defensive cover. Especially in these types of games. It may not be what fans were expecting from Tavares but sounds like he did a job. It also seems like he was treated very poorly and harshly by Johnson.

[Lancs Harp]

Interesting to hear some say he did well defensively. I'm guessing that's why Monty played him there with Boyle up top? I've been thinking for a while we should put Boyle or Youan up front and play someone who offers a bit more defensive cover. Especially in these types of games. It may not be what fans were expecting from Tavares but sounds like he did a job. It also seems like he was treated very poorly and harshly by Johnson.

To be honest I didnt really notice him defensively but did when he was substituted and wasnt there if you know what i mean.

[RMQ1967]

Didn't want to pass to him? What utter bollocks. Thought he did really well today, great energy throughout, looked to play a positive pass each time and when he did make a mistake his tracking back to win the ball back was noticeably better. His first touch was spot on and the spin in the first half when he got hacked down was a lovely bit of skill.

Just note that we stopped Celtic from scoring today, which was helped by the workrate tracking back of him and youan. Give the laddie a break?

I don't think that's a criticism of the guy - I thought the same once or twice. Maybe his teammates don't fully trust him at the moment or don't want to put him under under pressure but I can see why the poster would say that.

[B.H.F.C]

Was much like the rest of them. Disciplined and worked his balls off but little to no quality on the ball.

[Billy McKirdy]

Was pleased with his efforts today, his energy and awareness is really good and he played his part in a decent team performances today.

[Musselbound]

To be honest I didnt really notice him defensively but did when he was substituted and wasnt there if you know what i mean.

Sure. That's understandable.

[Irish_Steve]

I thought he played just as well as anyone today and far better than a few.

A wee run of games will probably do him the world of good.

If he's good enough for NM, he's good enough for me

[Hibees1973]

Ran around and worked hard.

That's about it.

I don't expect him to start at Hampden.

[Brightside]

He was Ok.

[Wilson]

Ran around and worked hard.

That's about it.

I don't expect him to start at Hampden.

Did you expect him to start today?

[HIBS NUTS]

I thought we were set up great today, great defensive display by hibs and the manager, JAIR was our worse player, much better players in the youth team.
I actually don’t understand why he’s playing. 😳

[Hillsidehibby]

Didn’t even run around. He jogged around and offered nothing. Had it with him

[JohnM1875]

Considering what he's gone through at his time at Hibs so far, impressed and pleased with that performance today. Hopefully a confidence builder and things will only get better.

Think folk forget how little first team football the boys played. He's only going to improve with good coaching and time on the pitch.

[skyehibee]

Still isn’t good enough. Either we need to cut our losses or send him on loan next year.

[Wilson]

I thought we were set up great today, great defensive display by hibs and the manager, JAIR was our worse player, much better players in the youth team.
I actually don’t understand why he’s playing. 😳

I've heard that line and it's rubbish. If there were much better players in the youth team Monty will have noticed.

Jair contributed to a decent team performance in gaining an unexpected point. Exactly what was expected of him I imagine.

[HIBS NUTS]

I've heard that line and it's rubbish. If there were much better players in the youth team Monty will have noticed.

Jair contributed to a decent team performance in gaining an unexpected point. Exactly what was expected of him I imagine.

I thought he was poor , in a great hibs defensive performance.
Rudi molotnikov is a better player, JDH is better, Levitt is miles better.
I actually don understand him playing.
I’m actually delighted at the hibs performance today.

[JohnM1875]

I thought he was poor , in a great hibs defensive performance.
Rudi molotnikov is a better player, JDH is better, Levitt is miles better.
I actually don understand him playing.
I’m actually delighted at the hibs performance today.

None are wide players. That's solved your conundrum of Jair playing

[wookie70]

Considering how little he has played I thought he did well. Some poor bits of play but that was mostly not being used to teh pace of the game. I thought he worked pretty hard and I would have had him ahead of both Youan and Boyle if I was giving marks out of 10. In terms of offensive play I would probably have had him ahead of Vente too today but Vente worked incredibly hard when Celtc had the ball

[flash]

I thought he was poor , in a great hibs defensive performance.
Rudi molotnikov is a better player, JDH is better, Levitt is miles better.
I actually don understand him playing.
I’m actually delighted at the hibs performance today.

What are JDH and Levitt doing in the youth team?

[Pretty Boy]

It was noticeable Montgomery gave him a big hug when he was subbed and spoke to him for a fair bit.

He's clearly invested in him and I think he was pleased with him today.

[HIBS NUTS]

None are wide players. That's solved your conundrum of Jair playing

Jair wasent playing wide so i don’t understand the point.

[Bobby's Cinema]

Thought it was his best game for Hibs. Never stopped all day tracking his man and pressing.

Today for probably the first time felt he offered a real meaningful contribution to the game It is something to build on for him - if it was me for his development I'd continue with him in and around the squad and look to get him the second half of the season with a top half championship club or even a Falkirk or a Hamilton that was winning most weeks.

[Skol]

Jair put in a good shift today. A long way to go sure, but he played a part in a good team performance.

[flash]

Jair wasent playing wide so i don’t understand the point.
Eh?

[JohnM1875]

Jair wasent playing wide so i don’t understand the point.

Haha what?! Where do you think he was playing?

[Nicho87]

For the wages he’s on I expect more. Played better than he has done but that doesn’t make it worthy or acceptable

One time in second half he let a straightforward pass from Miller go right under his foot and lose possession. No one near him.

I still think we should move him on if we can

[Skol]

Haha what?! Where do you think he was playing?

Jair rarely hugged the wing and played in a more right centre of midfield role.

[HIBS NUTS]

HA HA
i actually thought he played midfield, but not sure, as he done so little,
Hibs we’re great today, if you think we should play Jair going forward, fare enough, i thought he wasent very good, if you did then great . 👍🏻

[JohnM1875]

Jair rarely hugged the wing and played in a more right centre of midfield role.

Jair played wide midfield today. So wide. When they had the ball he might have been more central, sure

[greenlex]

I thought he did well today especially defensively which I wasn’t expecting.

This. I think we lost a bit if shape when he went off although that could have been down to the Celtic changes and them actually being a bit more direct.
I don’t think he will be a standout for us unfortunately and he will be moved on.

[brydekirk]

Personally thought he offered very little today

Agreed, don't know how he gets on in front of Levitt.

[HIBS NUTS]

Jair played wide midfield today. So wide. When they had the ball he might have been more central, sure

So he wasent wide, he was poor and tried hard .

[J-C]

Good work ethics, some lovely wee touches, just needs to make his passes more accurate, overall very happy today.

[A Hi-Bee]

I think he done alright, if we can play him and he turns into the player that Monty and crew think he may be then thats good enough for me.
I am confident in Monty's judgment.

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[JohnM1875]

Folk really need to stop this 'can't believe he started over x,y or z'.

If football was as simple as ability then teams would just play their technically best XI. Pretty much none of the players mentioned have ever played as a wide midfielder. Folk absolutely battered LJ for playing players out of position yet want Montgomery to?

[JohnM1875]

So he wasent wide, he was poor and tried hard .

👍🏻

[eastmainsmsh]

Tried hard like him there’s definitely a player there

[Iain G]

Didn’t even run around. He jogged around and offered nothing. Had it with him

As noted elsewhere, some people are not happy unless they have something to moan about 🤣

[Craig_in_Prague]

Didn't see the game or follow it, so this thread is bonkers if it's comments from people that were at the game or seen it. Such varying comments it's unreal!

[HIBS NUTS]

Folk really need to stop this 'can't believe he started over x,y or z'.

If football was as simple as ability then teams would just play their technically best XI. Pretty much none of the players mentioned have ever played as a wide midfielder. Folk absolutely battered LJ for playing players out of position yet want Montgomery to?
Your right about one thing, how LJ didn’t play the best player this season Lewis Millet at right back, and played centre half’s , left backs and any other player is ridiculous.

[Groathillgrump]

The fact that some people are saying that was Jair's best performance shows just how low a bar he'd set with his previous appearances.

I'll be very surprised (and delighted) if he ever becomes an important player for Hibs. Personally I don't see it happening.

[Allant1981]

Didn't see the game or follow it, so this thread is bonkers if it's comments from people that were at the game or seen it. Such varying comments it's unreal!

I was at the game and thought he offered very little, his passing wasn't great, his control wasn't great at times, can't run with the ball, closed play down on occasion but doesn't really tackle. If the manager picks him and he continues to play like today then we won't win many midfield battles, all my opinion of course

[JohnM1875]

The fact that some people are saying that was Jair's best performance shows just how low a bar he'd set with his previous appearances.

I'll be very surprised (and delighted) if he ever becomes an important player for Hibs. Personally I don't see it happening.

Why? He was better than Boyle today.

[Allant1981]

Why? He was better than Boyle today.

He really wasnt

[Unseen work]

The fact that some people are saying that was Jair's best performance shows just how low a bar he'd set with his previous appearances.

I'll be very surprised (and delighted) if he ever becomes an important player for Hibs. Personally I don't see it happening.

I get what you’re saying and tbf I think there’s just a bit of people hoping/wanting him to come good so are trying to see all the positives (myself included). He does things where I think “Good Jair, well done” when in reality if a Boyle or Youan done it, it wouldn’t even cross my mind as I’d expect it.

Would Molotnikov for example have played worse? I have my doubts.

[JohnM1875]

He really wasnt

Comfortably for me. Not even trying to be controversial or talk up Tavares. Thought Boyle had a stinker.

[Allant1981]

Comfortably for me. Not even trying to be controversial or talk up Tavares. Thought Boyle had a stinker.

Boyle harried the defence loads, definitely did not have a stinker, tavares was rank, don't think one person that I sit with thought he played well

[HIBS NUTS]

I get what you’re saying and tbf I think there’s just a bit of people hoping/wanting him to come good so are trying to see all the positives (myself included). He does things where I think “Good Jair, well done” when in reality if a Boyle or Youan done it, it wouldn’t even cross my mind as I’d expect it.

Would Molotnikov for example have played worse? I have my doubts.
Agree i want him to do well, but he’s just not very good, i watch him play for the reserves/ development team, and he’s just not very good .
Mabye he’s great in training.
But at the moment he’s taking up a place that some of our great young players could play.
I hope im wrong.

[Wilson]

The fact that some people are saying that was Jair's best performance shows just how low a bar he'd set with his previous appearances.

I'll be very surprised (and delighted) if he ever becomes an important player for Hibs. Personally I don't see it happening.

He was important today and that's the point. You use the squad the best you can. Develop the ones that need developing. Some will work out long term. Some won't. He put in a shift today and we got a credible result.

Constructive criticism is fair but we've got posters doing him down for the sake of it... I'm still waiting on the name of even one development player ready to go ahead of Jair - or the reason why Monty is sidelining said player.

[Onceinawhile]

Thought he was thoroughly OK.

Met he minimum requirements of working hard and defending well.

Did OK with the ball, but no more than that.

[A Hi-Bee]

Thought we had ten outfield players on the park at any one time, thought they all played as part of a well drilled team. Some can do better for sure, but we have lots of growing to do, Monty will get us where we should be. as for the players he picks I for one will leave it to him, I just go to watch in the hope that we will win more than we lose.
Its a simple game.
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[Brightside]

Why? He was better than Boyle today.

That’s the craziest thing I’ve heard.

[w pilton hibby]

For the wages he’s on I expect more. Played better than he has done but that doesn’t make it worthy or acceptable

One time in second half he let a straightforward pass from Miller go right under his foot and lose possession. No one near him.

I still think we should move him on if we can

How much is he on? And where is this confirmed?

[Not In The Know]

For the wages he’s on I expect more. Played better than he has done but that doesn’t make it worthy or acceptable

One time in second half he let a straightforward pass from Miller go right under his foot and lose possession. No one near him.

I still think we should move him on if we can

yup. He Basically let a ball run under his foot. That’s mental at this level.

[500miles]

Jair looked rank amateur last season. He now looks like someone who makes a living playing football.

Seems better taking the ball when there's someone tight to him rather than running at players.

[pacoluna]

That’s the craziest thing I’ve heard.

Jair was absolutely better than Boyle today.

[Allant1981]

Jair was absolutely better than Boyle today.

A few folk at it tonight

[HIBS NUTS]

How much is he on? And where is this confirmed?

Nobody really knows how much he’s on, he was part of a great defensive hibs performance, in my opinion he was our worst player today.?

[Hillsidehibby]

Folk really need to stop this 'can't believe he started over x,y or z'.

If football was as simple as ability then teams would just play their technically best XI. Pretty much none of the players mentioned have ever played as a wide midfielder. Folk absolutely battered LJ for playing players out of position yet want Montgomery to?
No. I disagree. Why should we stop?He offers zero and I would rather any of those players instead of him and I’m no fan of JDH either

[Allant1981]

Nobody really knows how much he’s on, he was part of a great defensive hibs performance, in my opinion he was our worst player today.?

Nah, apparently he was better than Boyle so Boyle must have been our worst player!!

[Keepthefaith]

yup. He Basically let a ball run under his foot. That’s mental at this level.

The two of you are at it. Yeah it was a glaring error which was down to a moment of switching off but there were many other times when he showed a lovely touch to control the ball and play a positive pass. Haven't seen his haters include any of the positive play he showed today.

He's still a relatively young player who's had a **** last year and rebuilding his confidence. There were a number of times he tried to carry the ball forward and take us up the field, something we've been saying we need rather than too many sideways or back passes.

The guy has talent and he's being coached to be a more rounded player. I have faith we've got a really good player on our hands.

[Baldy Foghorn]

From hardly playing to starting Today, what a turnaround for Jair.

I thought he was good enough today, and contributed to a team point, when I suspect many didn't fancy us.

[Not In The Know]

its fascinating how fans (myself included) perceptions are skewed for certain players. He's been mince, not offered any positive outcomes in any match he's played. But for some reason loads of folk think he's got something to show... Campbell's way better and I'm not Campbell's biggest fan

[hibIBZ]

Didn’t do much on the ball or was able to get possession much. But work rate was good, positioning and shape when we didn’t have the ball was really good. Looked a bit more robust. Stuck to task and put in a solid performance, hopefully something to build on

[WeeRussell]

yup. He Basically let a ball run under his foot. That’s mental at this level.

It’s sloppy, not mental. I’ve seen it happen countless times at Easter road, and at the highest level on tv.

[Callum_62]

The two of you are at it. Yeah it was a glaring error which was down to a moment of switching off but there were many other times when he showed a lovely touch to control the ball and play a positive pass. Haven't seen his haters include any of the positive play he showed today.

He's still a relatively young player who's had a **** last year and rebuilding his confidence. There were a number of times he tried to carry the ball forward and take us up the field, something we've been saying we need rather than too many sideways or back passes.

The guy has talent and he's being coached to be a more rounded player. I have faith we've got a really good player on our hands.Yep, Boyle ruined a great chance in the first half with an absolutely horrendous pass with Elie and him in great position - if that was Jair folk would just be mentioning that over and over (like his one miscontrol - which was late in the game after he put in a power of work)

Was Jair amazing - no - did he contribute well for us to get a really unexpected point against the best team in Scotland - yes

The clamour to have some kind of scapegoat or negative slant, even when we actually come away with a good result is kind of baffling

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[Hibees1973]

Did you expect him to start today?

Don't think anybody did.

[MWHIBBIES]

I thought he was poor , in a great hibs defensive performance.
Rudi molotnikov is a better player, JDH is better, Levitt is miles better.
I actually don understand him playing.
I’m actually delighted at the hibs performance today.

Levitt has contributed as much as Tavares this season.

[Allant1981]

Yep, Boyle ruined a great chance in the first half with an absolutely horrendous pass with Elie and him in great position - if that was Jair folk would just be mentioning that over and over (like his one miscontrol - which was late in the game after he put in a power of work)

Was Jair amazing - no - did he contribute well for us to get a really unexpected point against the best team in Scotland - yes

The clamour to have some kind of scapegoat or negative slant, even when we actually come away with a good result is kind of baffling

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It's not really a scapegoat, it's people giving their opinion, should we just say all players played well because we got a good result? That would just be pointless. He was yet again our poorest player, I have no agenda against him or looking for a scapegoat, just saying it as I see it, different folk will see it differently

[Brightside]

Levitt has contributed as much as Tavares this season.

That will change.

[JohnM1875]

No. I disagree. Why should we stop?He offers zero and I would rather any of those players instead of him and I’m no fan of JDH either

Because I don't think folk realise how hard or technical being a professional football player is. It's not as easy as a player looking better on the ball therefore he's a better option in said position regardless. It's honestly moronic to think so in my opinion.

Also daft to say the boy offered 'zero' today. Get a grip.

[EdinMike]

Jeez even when we draw with Celtic there’s still something to moan about ! I wasn’t at the game however Monty even singled out Tavares for having a good game and working hard, so I’ll take his word for it.

[Callum_62]

It's not really a scapegoat, it's people giving their opinion, should we just say all players played well because we got a good result? That would just be pointless. He was yet again our poorest player, I have no agenda against him or looking for a scapegoat, just saying it as I see it, different folk will see it differentlyWhat made him our poorest player? What did he do worse than Youan for example?

There left hand side basically offered no threat until he went off so he obviously offered "something"

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[ekhibee]

Boyle harried the defence loads, definitely did not have a stinker, tavares was rank, don't think one person that I sit with thought he played well
Well I was at the game too and I thought Boyle was poor today, even allowing for his running g around,wasn't one of his best days. Maybe you think differently, all about opinions.

[Allant1981]

Well I was at the game too and I thought Boyle was poor today, even allowing for his running g around,wasn't one of his best days. Maybe you think differently, all about opinions.

Still doesn't mean tavares was much better than him as the poster suggested

[Allant1981]

What made him our poorest player? What did he do worse than Youan for example?

There left hand side basically offered no threat until he went off so he obviously offered "something"

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If you don't know what he done worse than youan then you clearly didn't see the game, his passing was crap, he didn't beat one single player(appreciate he got fouled the one time he tried) he couldn't even control a pass from about 15 yards. He offered absolutely nothing

[JohnM1875]

If you don't know what he done worse than youan then you clearly didn't see the game, his passing was crap, he didn't beat one single player(appreciate he got fouled the one time he tried) he couldn't even control a pass from about 15 yards. He offered absolutely nothing

How many players did Boyle beat today? How accurate was Boyle's passing or decision making?

[Allant1981]

How many players did Boyle beat today? How accurate was Boyle's passing or decision making?

My post wasn't about Boyle was it?

[JohnM1875]

My post wasn't about Boyle was it?

Sound. So Jair was better than Boyle but not as effective as Youan. Glad we agree

[Allant1981]

Sound. So Jair was better than Boyle but not as effective as Youan. Glad we agree

I'll bow out now, you are clearly at it

[JohnM1875]

I'll bow out now, you are clearly at it

Nah, my bad, sorry. I admit I jumped in a bit early without properly reading your post. Just don't think Jair was bad today.

[WhileTheChief..]

He did ok against the best midfield in the league. Couldn't really expect much more from him today.

Not sure why he gets so much attention on here. It's not like he's been a disaster whenever he's played, has he?

[Wilson]

Nah, my bad, sorry. I admit I jumped in a bit early without properly reading your post. Just don't think Jair was bad today.

He wasn't bad. Not even close. Why would Monty wait until the 82nd minute to substitute someone who was bad?

He got decent minutes in one of our tougher fixtures because he was doing the job Monty needed doing.

Hopefully there is more to come.

[B.H.F.C]

He did ok against the best midfield in the league. Couldn't really expect much more from him today.

Not sure why he gets so much attention on here. It's not like he's been a disaster whenever he's played, has he?

Think it’s the fact that he’s a winger who has made zero attacking contribution in over a year. Today not a day to criticise though, did a job for the team as they all did.

[Callum_62]

If you don't know what he done worse than youan then you clearly didn't see the game, his passing was crap, he didn't beat one single player(appreciate he got fouled the one time he tried) he couldn't even control a pass from about 15 yards. He offered absolutely nothingIn struggling to think of anything Youan offered?

My point is it's really nit picking to find our "worst player" in a game we were largely in defensive shape with the odd attack

I think Boyle was really poor today as well but he worked hard but also ruined a great chance with an absolute amateur pass and really should have done better with his big chance from a wonderful ball by Obita

Jair worked hard and miscontrolled the ball late in the game

Youan probably didn't work as hard and as far as I can remember offered zero threat

I don't really see why the clamour to label jair as our worst player based on that and especially after a great and wholly unexpected point (see the comments pre game)



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[21sMay]

He wasn't bad. Not even close. Why would Monty wait until the 82nd minute to substitute someone who was bad?

He got decent minutes in one of our tougher fixtures because he was doing the job Monty needed doing.

Hopefully there is more to come.

Exactly this . Jair has carried out what was asked of him which is more than can be said of Ellie and Boyle last week at Ibrox . Jair can be happy with his performance today

[JohnM1875]

Think it’s the fact that he’s a winger who has made zero attacking contribution in over a year. Today not a day to criticise though, did a job for the team as they all did.

How many chances was he given in that year though? Miller was MOTM today and barely got a sniff in that year.

I don't think the boy is great, but I just think he deserves a fair go of it without previous prejudice. Give him a chance FFS

[Pete70]

He was also ok. Certainly no worse than Boyle or Youan

[B.H.F.C]

How many chances was he given in that year though? Miller was MOTM today and barely got a sniff in that year.

I don't think the boy is great, but I just think he deserves a fair go of it without previous prejudice. Give him a chance FFS

First off, I said today wasn’t a chance to criticise him so not sure what the ‘give him a chance FFS’ is all about.

Miller did a decent job in his limited starts though. Good that Jair came in and did a job today but he’s going to need to start contributing a bit more. Sincerely hope he does.

[Keepthefaith]

It's not really a scapegoat, it's people giving their opinion, should we just say all players played well because we got a good result? That would just be pointless. He was yet again our poorest player, I have no agenda against him or looking for a scapegoat, just saying it as I see it, different folk will see it differently

it is being scapegoated if what folk are doing is singling out every negative and not balancing it with any of the positives, and in doing so put him down in comparison to those around him. pre game all the haters were saying his inclusion meant a nailed on hammering, when in fact he contributed to the team getting a well deserved draw. not one of you have recognised his tracking back today, there was one where he lost the ball, tracked back deep into our half and put a tackle in to win the ball back. its one example, and I'm not saying he was a superstar with a flawless performance, but he did ok today, he really did.

[JohnM1875]

First off, I said today wasn’t a chance to criticise him son or sure what the ‘give him a chance FFS’ is all about.

Miller did a decent job in his limited starts though. Good that Jair came in and did a job today but he’s going to need to start contributing a bit more. Sincerely hope he does.

'Give him a chance FFS' wasn't directly aimed at you, just the thread in general, sorry. I get the confusion with me quoting your post though my apologies

[TrinityHFC]

I like that Monty seems to see him as a project. Potential to have a big upside here instead of jettisoning him. He’s always encouraging him and putting the arm around him after the game. Good management. Hope he can also get the best out of McKirdy, Melkersen etc and get something positive out of our investments instead of having to go out and sign replacements.

[HendoDelivered]

Might be one of few but i’m prepared to give him time. Something tells me he will come good.

[Allant1981]

it is being scapegoated if what folk are doing is singling out every negative and not balancing it with any of the positives, and in doing so put him down in comparison to those around him. pre game all the haters were saying his inclusion meant a nailed on hammering, when in fact he contributed to the team getting a well deserved draw. not one of you have recognised his tracking back today, there was one where he lost the ball, tracked back deep into our half and put a tackle in to win the ball back. its one example, and I'm not saying he was a superstar with a flawless performance, but he did ok today, he really did.

If you think he done ok today then you are entitled to your opinion, mine is I felt he added next to nothing to the team,if you think thats being made a scapegoat then fire in

[davym7062]

thought he did well, reading some keek on here makes we think we played wit 10 men the fact celtic never won the game tells u otherwise

[Keepthefaith]

If you think he done ok today then you are entitled to your opinion, mine is I felt he added next to nothing to the team,if you think thats being made a scapegoat then fire in

I will fire in, absolutely. if you'd come on and pointed out aspects of his game that you thought he needed to improve on today, but could still accept that there were positives then I'd respect your right to your opinion. but for you to not see that what he did well and state he did next to nothing positive is just mind blowing. I'm guessing you're the kind of supporter who'd offer him no encouragement during the game yet be the first to get on his back at the slightest error.

surely we all support our team because we want the best outcome? that means getting behind any player in the team when chosen by the manager and supporting their progress. it's my view that by doing so we will develop a good player. but then you'll probably prefer that not to happen, just to prove your point.

newell is a good example of what can happen when a player is given a run of games, in his right position and praised. he mentioned in long bangers interview how much he was aware of the negativity on social media, how hard that was. he's older than Jair and from uk so didn't need to make the same adjustments. maybe just maybe try and find something positive about him, might just help him if he hears you cheer him on, go on, try it:na na:

[Allant1981]

I will fire in, absolutely. if you'd come on and pointed out aspects of his game that you thought he needed to improve on today, but could still accept that there were positives then I'd respect your right to your opinion. but for you to not see that what he did well and state he did next to nothing positive is just mind blowing. I'm guessing you're the kind of supporter who'd offer him no encouragement during the game yet be the first to get on his back at the slightest error.

surely we all support our team because we want the best outcome? that means getting behind any player in the team when chosen by the manager and supporting their progress. it's my view that by doing so we will develop a good player. but then you'll probably prefer that not to happen, just to prove your point.

newell is a good example of what can happen when a player is given a run of games, in his right position and praised. he mentioned in long bangers interview how much he was aware of the negativity on social media, how hard that was. he's older than Jair and from uk so didn't need to make the same adjustments. maybe just maybe try and find something positive about him, might just help him if he hears you cheer him on, go on, try it:na na:

I get behind every player on the pitch, I'm there supporting them every week, come sit next to me in the east if you go to games and see, he needs to improve his passing,his dribbling, his all round game is not the best, if you can't see that then you need your eyes tested, he tracked back,don't think anyone could say he didn't, he still didn't offer anything going forward. I hope he turns out to be a good player for us but just don't see it

[Carheenlea]

The management team see something in him day to day. He’s featured regularly in the squads since Montgomery’s arrival and today was a surprise start against strong opposition.

Felt like a debut in some ways, and had it actually had been one we’d have been quite positive about his performance. Wasn’t a MOTM performance but one that suggested promise.

I really think he’s going to come good. A slow burner that’s well worth igniting. Montgomery isn’t playing him just for fun. I trust his judgement.

[JimBHibees]

From hardly playing to starting Today, what a turnaround for Jair.

I thought he was good enough today, and contributed to a team point, when I suspect many didn't fancy us.

Yep just goes to show what happens when a coach shows faith in players. Jair was fine worked hard some good bits and some not so good his turn when Ralston hacked him down was excellent.

[Paulie Walnuts]

It's the best I've seen him play for Hibs. I still don't think he's good enough for a starting slot and he needs to become stronger. There is hope where I thought there was none.

Pretty much where I’m at. Nothing to write home about yet, but it’s a huge improvement on where he was. Another slight improvement and we may have someone worth keeping around.

[JimBHibees]

If you don't know what he done worse than youan then you clearly didn't see the game, his passing was crap, he didn't beat one single player(appreciate he got fouled the one time he tried) he couldn't even control a pass from about 15 yards. He offered absolutely nothing

So he didn't beat a player apart from the one time he did and was hacked down.

[Allant1981]

So he didn't beat a player apart from the one time he did and was hacked down.

Well he didn't beat him did he? Maybe go to a game and you will see what players offer

[LewysGot2]

Well he didn't beat him did he? Maybe go to a game and you will see what players offer

Patronising patter. Dearie me 🙈

[JimBHibees]

Well he didn't beat him did he? Maybe go to a game and you will see what players offer

Yawn was at the game and he was fine especially the great bit of skill you are desperate to give him no credit for. Maybe better facing the pitch when you go to a match. :greengrin

[Allant1981]

Yawn was at the game and he was fine especially the great bit of skill you are desperate to give him no credit for. Maybe better facing the pitch when you go to a match. :greengrin

I clearly said I appreciate he got fouled the one time he tried to beat a guy, if he had pulled it off and got away it would be even better

[Allant1981]

Patronising patter. Dearie me 🙈

Can't say I'm really fussed, wasn't aimed at you was it?

[LewysGot2]

Funnily enough it is patronising patter. Telling someone who clearly goes to games to try going to games because you don't agree with them? It's hardly constructive.

Edit - not the post I was answering. I see you deleted your other one. Give it a rest, eh?

[Allant1981]

Funnily enough it is. Telling someone who clearly goes to games to try going to games because you don't agree with them? It's hardly constructive.

Edit - not the post I was answering. I see you deleted your other one. Give it a rest, eh?

Pretty sure the poster can post himself but I'm sure he appreciates your concern, especially as he takes aim and digs at plenty others on here, so ta ta and stick me on ignore

[Keepthefaith]

Funnily enough it is. Telling someone who clearly goes to games to try going to games because you don't agree with them? It's hardly constructive.

Edit - not the post I was answering. I see you deleted your other one. Give it a rest, eh?

Aye he said the same to me too, I support the team home and away. He's dug himself a position and no matter what evidence is put forward to counter it, he's stuck with the aye but. To not recognise the skill in the spin to get away and state him being fouled means it doesn't count is just bizarre.

Think I might take a break from this thread, some folk just have it in for jair.

[Allant1981]

Aye he said the same to me too, I support the team home and away. He's dug himself a position and no matter what evidence is put forward to counter it, he's stuck with the aye but. To not recognise the skill in the spin to get away and state him being fouled means it doesn't count is just bizarre.

Think I might take a break from this thread, some folk just have it in for jair.

So you can have your opinion but I'm not allowed mine? I thought(along with many many others) that he wasn't that good, I haven't dug any hole, my opinion on that won't change, despite one spin away from a player that resulted in a foul, the guy isn't good enough to take us forward. If you think he is good enough then I will never say you are wrong, not like what you have just done

[tamig]

I thought we were set up great today, great defensive display by hibs and the manager, JAIR was our worse player, much better players in the youth team.
I actually don’t understand why he’s playing. 😳

This comment and your subsequent stuff trying to defend it are nonsense. Were you at the game yesterday? The team were very disciplined in sticking to the shape and Tavares was a vital part of that. Other than passing to the opposition with a couple of slack passes, he put in a power of work and showed some good touches and turns to keep moves flowing as well as some important defensive work. Great to see his confidence growing and hopefully he’ll continue to grow. Lazy comments like yours and a few others help nobody.

[B.H.F.C]

Tavares just grafted yesterday which was what was required.

If he’s on the park on Tuesday we need to start seeing some quality on the ball. The fact he competed and didn’t look totally lost yesterday is an improvement on what we’ve seen but that’s not going to be enough to turn things round completely.

[tamig]

Tavares just grafted yesterday which was what was required.

If he’s on the park on Tuesday we need to start seeing some quality on the ball. The fact he competed and didn’t look totally lost yesterday is an improvement on what we’ve seen but that’s not going to be enough to turn things round completely.
Don’t forget he also set up a couple of decent chances last week - despite an earlier comment in this thread that he’d contributed zero attacking wise in his time here. Tuesday is huge for the club and I’m looking to seeing a bit more attack wise from Jair.

[Keepthefaith]

So you can have your opinion but I'm not allowed mine? I thought(along with many many others) that he wasn't that good, I haven't dug any hole, my opinion on that won't change, despite one spin away from a player that resulted in a foul, the guy isn't good enough to take us forward. If you think he is good enough then I will never say you are wrong, not like what you have just done

Your original comments were that he contributed nothing. My challenge to you was that he did and that by being so dismissive of him was unfair and not factually correct. I also said that I'd respect your opinion on what he needed to improve on if you could acknowledge what he did well, which you seem incapable of doing.

Anyway the most important person here is the manager, and given the decisions we've seen re dropping Hanlon, Stevenson and Campbell I'd take his judgement on including jair over yours anyday. Enjoy your Sunday, try and get some chill time, being this angst ridden must be exhausting...

[hibee-boys]

I think his inclusion since NM came on board is more to do with his preferred style of play and lack of alternative wide options. I really hope Jair goes on to prove me wrong but I’ve seen nothing from him that leads me to believe he’s the solution long term.

[Allant1981]

Your original comments were that he contributed nothing. My challenge to you was that he did and that by being so dismissive of him was unfair and not factually correct. I also said that I'd respect your opinion on what he needed to improve on if you could acknowledge what he did well, which you seem incapable of doing.

Anyway the most important person here is the manager, and given the decisions we've seen re dropping Hanlon, Stevenson and Campbell I'd take his judgement on including jair over yours anyday. Enjoy your Sunday, try and get some chill time, being this angst ridden must be exhausting...

I did post what I think he needs to improve on,his passing,dribbling, shooting are not at the level that's going to improve us, anyone who has seen him play will know that, he tracked back yesterday when required which helped miller but done nothing to get us going forward, which is what a winger/forward player should be doing. As I mentioned on another post, any player that is on that pitch will get my support, that doesn't mean that I think they are any good, I'm very chilled don't worry about that

[21.05.2016]

Didn’t do anything wrong today tbf but too lightweight IMO. He should not be in the starting 11 if everyone is fully fit.

[easty]

Tavares just grafted yesterday which was what was required.

If he’s on the park on Tuesday we need to start seeing some quality on the ball. The fact he competed and didn’t look totally lost yesterday is an improvement on what we’ve seen but that’s not going to be enough to turn things round completely.

Agree with this.

I’ve never been impressed with Tavares, and while he didn’t do anything with the ball yesterday, I don’t think he has a bad game overall. You have to consider the opposition. He comes out with credit for doing what needed to be done.

If he plays against Ross County then he has to contribute in an attacking sense.

[B.H.F.C]

Don’t forget he also set up a couple of decent chances last week - despite an earlier comment in this thread that he’d contributed zero attacking wise in his time here. Tuesday is huge for the club and I’m looking to seeing a bit more attack wise from Jair.

Could re phrase it to say next to nothing then. No goals and no assists in a year and a bit (albeit limited appearances). I know he stood one up to the back post at Ibrox and had a shot over the bar when he started against St Johnstone.

As I said, not really intending to criticise as he did the job he needed to do yesterday. Games against the rest of the league are totally different and if he’s on the park he’s going to need to start contributing sharpish. Would be good if he could as the squad is very thin and it would be a totally unexpected bonus.

[bingo70]

I thought he was alright yesterday, not brilliant, not bad. I enjoyed watching his effort levels and I’m enjoying watching his improvement.

Something I do think is quite funny is that one of the appeals of appointing Nick Montgomery was his ability to take players that weren’t playing well and were down in their confidence and turning them into good effective players. Now when we see him trying to do that with Jair we want the player binned after 5 minutes (under NM).

It remains to be seen if he’s good enough, if he’s going to turn it around at Hibs though it’ll be a process over a number months. Jair never had a proper pre-season, when his team mates were doing their pre-season he was getting games against the likes of Dunbar, I think that’s probably worth remembering too.

[Pretty Boy]

I thought he was alright yesterday, not brilliant, not bad. I enjoyed watching his effort levels and I’m enjoying watching his improvement.

Something I do think is quite funny is that one of the appeals of appointing Nick Montgomery was his ability to take players that weren’t playing well and were down in their confidence and turning them into good effective players. Now when we see him trying to do that with Jair we want the player binned after 5 minutes (under NM).

It remains to be seen if he’s good enough, if he’s going to turn it around at Hibs though it’ll be a process over a number months. Jair never had a proper pre-season, when his team mates were doing their pre-season he was getting games against the likes of Dunbar, I think that’s probably worth remembering too.

He's a player I'm now more invested in urging to do well in part because so many seem unwilling to give him a second chance.

I'm not making out it's some fairytale or anything. We made a not insignificant financial investment in him and he came with a fair bit of hype. However it looked like he was going to be a total flop and now we have a manager trying to change that. It might work out, it might not but it's surely in all our interest that it does.

I'm no happy clapper and if he deserves criticism then I'll offer it, for all anyone really cares about that. I'm not sure he deserves people desperately trying to argue that he was our 'worst player' or 'offered nothing' yesterday though. No one was the worst player yesterday, it was the archetypical team performance and the 2nd argument is just nonsense.

The jury is still well and truly out but yesterday was a step forward from what we have seen previously from him and the manager was clearly pleased with his contribution, as were many fans at the game who gave him a warm reception.

[Centre Hawf]

I thought he was alright yesterday, not brilliant, not bad. I enjoyed watching his effort levels and I’m enjoying watching his improvement.

Something I do think is quite funny is that one of the appeals of appointing Nick Montgomery was his ability to take players that weren’t playing well and were down in their confidence and turning them into good effective players. Now when we see him trying to do that with Jair we want the player binned after 5 minutes (under NM).

It remains to be seen if he’s good enough, if he’s going to turn it around at Hibs though it’ll be a process over a number months. Jair never had a proper pre-season, when his team mates were doing their pre-season he was getting games against the likes of Dunbar, I think that’s probably worth remembering too.

Spot on imo.

He’s been distinctly average at best since coming back into the side but that’s night and day from what we were expecting him to contribute when his backside was out the window under LJ.

I said before that I expect the reality of the situation is that we’re trying our best to build him back up to have a shot at showing something to the current coaching team that they won’t have to shop him out the door in the next window or two. I also imagine it is easier to do so if he’s been playing games of football in professional games than sitting playing Dunbar every 3 weeks.

If between now and January or beyond our form absolutely tanks and we’re persisting with him and offering nothing then questions will be asked. But at the moment he’a contributed to a well earned point this weekend. Lets hope he builds on it.

[Jones28]

Ultimately not many positives from tonight but delighted for JT, no one’s deserved it more.

[Tambo]

Delighted for Jair after a first tough season for him, glad he wanted to stay and show what he can do.

[TrinityHFC]

Yep, the only positive tonight.

[Hibernian Verse]

Yep, the only positive tonight.

There were a number of positives tonight until around 60 mins when most of the positives went off the pitch.

[TrinityHFC]

There were a number of positives tonight until around 60 mins when most of the positives went off the pitch.

Not really. We were poor up to scoring and poor after it. But yeah, if we hadn’t made the changes we’d probably have escaped with a win.

[Paulie Walnuts]

The only positive. Well done Jair. Deserves to start on Saturday.

[Hibernian Verse]

Not really. We were poor up to scoring and poor after it. But yeah, if we hadn’t made the changes we’d probably have escaped with a win.

Jeggo and Rocky were both positives was my point.

[Northernhibee]

Very pleased for him, and think we may have a player here.

[Callum_62]

Delighted for him and it was a cracking finish

Shame he still had to bear boos at full-time as we fell apart but no blame to him

Hopefully he continues his improvement

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[Crab apple]

Really, really pleased for him. Well deserved man of the match. Shame he was let down by the manager's bizarre subs and a dodgy keeper.

[eastmainsmsh]

Just shows what talent he has rock bottom under streaky well done Jair chuffed for him

[Hibee Daft]

Really, really pleased for him. Well deserved man of the match. Shame he was let down by the manager's bizarre subs and a dodgy keeper.

If he played badly people would call it bizarre the manager persisted with him.

[Unseen work]

Even his all round play was so much better, fantastic finish too.

Delighted for him.

We should be thinking mainly positives after his goal but unfortunately it’s ended on a negative

[The Modfather]

Hopefully tonight is a turning point. Up until tonight, and mostly up until his goal I thought we were in Drey Wright territory of talking up the basics and effort rather than meaningful contributions. After his goal he genuinely looked like a different player. One who can, and probably now will, make meaningful contributions.

[Carheenlea]

Feel really sorry for him having the shine taken off a good performance and excellent goal by others costing us an unnecessary dropping of points.

Hopefully just the start though and we’ll see plenty more goals and wins.

[sleeping giant]

Really pleased for him to get a goal.
He was getting stuck in too.

[EdinMike]

Feel bad for him, what should have been a great night and a turning point for him feels like a defeat.

Still one of the few decent points. Hope he pushes on.

[Swedish hibee]

When his goal went to var check, I thought oh no... delighted for him.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Chuffed for him, hope he can kick on now

[Keepthefaith]

Well he didn't beat him did he? Maybe go to a game and you will see what players offer

Hello there - so what did you make of his performance tonight? still a bit **** / contributed nothing apart from his goal??

the lad has talent, here's hoping you were there to see it tonight...

[Mikey_1875]

Confident finish for his goal and a big outpouring of relief after, it was really nice to see. If he can keep improving at the rate he has in the last couple of games then it will be a big boost for our options out wide.

[JimBHibees]

Hopefully tonight is a turning point. Up until tonight, and mostly up until his goal I thought we were in Drey Wright territory of talking up the basics and effort rather than meaningful contributions. After his goal he genuinely looked like a different player. One who can, and probably now will, make meaningful contributions.

Think he looked a different player before his goal linked up well in first half.

[hibsbollah]

Throughout the first half he was constantly on the ball, wanting to get involved and teammates looked like they wanted to give him the ball. Looked like he’s been gaining confidence, presumably he’s been knocking it out of the park in training.
I think he lost possession cheaply only once in the whole game. His goal was one of those moments where you felt like you’ve seen something important and memorable in a career, so delighted for him. Please can we keep VAR.

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

Think he looked a different player before his goal linked up well in first half.

He was Hibs best player 1st half. Probably deserved MoM for his effort all game and goal.

[thebausburst]

Fair play to him, he’s looked dreadful at times but not last night!

[CockneyRebel]

Throughout the first half he was constantly on the ball, wanting to get involved and teammates looked like they wanted to give him the ball. Looked like he’s been gaining confidence, presumably he’s been knocking it out of the park in training.
I think he lost possession cheaply only once in the whole game. His goal was one of those moments where you felt like you’ve seen something important and memorable in a career, so delighted for him. Please can we keep VAR.


Each time I've seen him this season he has improved a little more. He is very lightweight and too easily eased off the ball and needs a bit more physicality about him which would improve his overall contribution. He was marking a big lad at a corner and Hanlon had to swap places as he was just getting pushed aside. He appears to have a good engine and a good attitude and I'm pleased he has been persevered with more than most would have liked. He scored a cracker last night and had influence throughout the game. Still young but eager and for me, he has the ability to become a valuable asset. The manner in which he has been nurtured this season is commendable and I look forward to see more of him. Hope he is hitting the gym and scoffing protein as a bit more upper body strength would help his trickery - all IMO of course and I say this as someone who saw nothing in him when he first arrived.

[HendoDelivered]

Did well last night, took his goal extremely well and was putting himself about. Really want this to work for him!

[Allant1981]

Hello there - so what did you make of his performance tonight? still a bit **** / contributed nothing apart from his goal??

the lad has talent, here's hoping you were there to see it tonight...

Bit sad going back posts but as you have clearly nothing better to do with your time, he had a good game. Was almost always looking for the ball, willing to take guys on, took his goal well, and yes I'm there every week watching so have seen the previous bad performances so hopefully last night gives him a push

[theonlywayisup]

Even before the goal, he was our best player, which at the time I did feel reflected badly on the rest of the team. But what a goal and I was impressed by his ability to take his time before lashing it home. Show's he has confidence in his ability, even if many others doubted him, including our ex-manager.

Sadly, let down by those around him!

[blackpoolhibs]

To be completely fair, he's been like a man short every time ive watched him play, weak on the ball, knocked over too easily, and gave it away far too many times in every game he's played up to last night.

He was good last night though and looked a different player, none of the above applied last night.

If we get that kind of performance from now on, the first paragraph will quickly be forgotten.

Over to you Jair, well done. :thumbsup:

[Mcbizz1998]

Much better last night and took his goal well. My only real issue with him is he isn’t very quick for his position. Decent enough option.

Let’s see why can be done with McKirdy next.

[Slim Shady]

To be completely fair, he's been like a man short every time ive watched him play, weak on the ball, knocked over too easily, and gave it away far too many times in every game he's played up to last night.

He was good last night though and looked a different player, none of the above applied last night.

If we get that kind of performance from now on, the first paragraph will quickly be forgotten.

Over to you Jair, well done. :thumbsup:

Agree with everything you said... apart from I still think hes rank.

Him being Motm for me shows how poor the rest of the team performed. Even at 2-0 there was no stand out performers - Jair shading.
To win (and see out wins) we need guys giving 7/8 of 10 performances.

[hibsbollah]

Agree with everything you said... apart from I still think hes rank.

Him being Motm for me shows how poor the rest of the team performed. Even at 2-0 there was no stand out performers - Jair shading.
To win (and see out wins) we need guys giving 7/8 of 10 performances.

I give you Dylan Levitt, as well as Tavares played Levitt was my MOTM. Rocky was also solid and gets pass marks. Miller was good again. It really wasn’t a bad overall performance, it was a collapse that was caused by subs that didn’t work and a keeper error. You’re being way too harsh on the overall performance.

[Jones28]

Agree with everything you said... apart from I still think hes rank.

Him being Motm for me shows how poor the rest of the team performed. Even at 2-0 there was no stand out performers - Jair shading.
To win (and see out wins) we need guys giving 7/8 of 10 performances.


Thats incredibly harsh.

[WeeRussell]

Thats incredibly harsh.

Can only assume it’s because the poster is struggling to concede that Jair was really good and might actually be a good player for us.

[WeeRussell]

Bit sad going back posts but as you have clearly nothing better to do with your time, he had a good game. Was almost always looking for the ball, willing to take guys on, took his goal well, and yes I'm there every week watching so have seen the previous bad performances so hopefully last night gives him a push

Come on, Allan. Surely you have to accept that if you’re going to make bold statements and have wee digs about people actually going to games, you might get pulled-up after moments like last night.

The place would be even worse for nonsense and OTT posts if people could just post whatever they want without any consequence or retort.

[patlowe]

I give you Dylan Levitt, as well as Tavares played Levitt was my MOTM. Rocky was also solid and gets pass marks. Miller was good again. It really wasn’t a bad overall performance, it was a collapse that was caused by subs that didn’t work and a keeper error. You’re being way too harsh on the overall performance.

Agree re Levitt, easily MOM - showed a quality and range of passing we've not seen from midfield in so long.

Tavares was fine (obviously a hundred times better than previous appearances) and took his goal extremely well - let's hope he can keep improving as we really need the depth.

Rocky and Jeggo pretty good until inexplicably subbed, Miller a 7 and the rest poor overall.

[Allant1981]

Come on, Allan. Surely you have to accept that if you’re going to make bold statements and have wee digs about people actually going to games, you might get pulled-up after moments like last night.

The place would be even worse for nonsense and OTT posts if people could just post whatever they want without any consequence or retort.

Happy to come on here and say if someone has had a decent game, last night was good for him, if he pushes on now and improves us the happy days, I wouldn't go looking for someone's posts to try prove a point, not sure what the point was though as I was specifically talking about the celtic game where he wasn't that good and i would debate with anyone who said he had a good game, but as I say, hopefully this pushes him on now

[Libby Hibby]

Although improving, he’s effectively keeping Levitt out the side.

I’d much rather find a way of starting Levitt.

[Slim Shady]

Can only assume it’s because the poster is struggling to concede that Jair was really good and might actually be a good player for us.

You're 100% correct although really good is a bit stretched.

I dont rate him at all.

Every time he pulls on a Hibernian strip he will have my support. Just dont see him being a long term solution.

[tamig]

Although improving, he’s effectively keeping Levitt out the side.

I’d much rather find a way of starting Levitt.

He plays a totally different role to Levitt.

[Libby Hibby]

He plays a totally different role to Levitt.

Exactly.

We’re accommodating Jair for whatever reason when slightly tweaking the formation allows Levitt, Jeggo and Newell to start.

Like I say, he improving but I’d much have our 3 best midfielders starting.

[Jones28]

Exactly.

We’re accommodating Jair for whatever reason when slightly tweaking the formation allows Levitt, Jeggo and Newell to start.

Like I say, he improving but I’d much have our 3 best midfielders starting.

The manager isn't going to play a 4-3-3 though.

[Unseen work]

I think Levitt, Newell and Jeggo in a midfield 3 would all be playing on top of each other and try take up the same positions.

We need a Lowry for example who will find the gaps further forward and play from there with direct running or passes.

Levitt has the ability, but I think he’d naturally drop deeper.

[Tyler Durden]

Exactly.

We’re accommodating Jair for whatever reason when slightly tweaking the formation allows Levitt, Jeggo and Newell to start.

Like I say, he improving but I’d much have our 3 best midfielders starting.

I think the only route to doing that in the current formation, would be Newell occupying one of the wide roles. Given the "wide" players are generally asked to play quite narrow anyway, I think he could do it. It's not like the winger role that Heckingbottom initially tried to play Newell.

If we had Newell a bit more narrow on the left, Youan or Boyle could play with more width on the other side. Don't see it happening but it's definitely an option to get our best players all starting.

[hhibs]

I think the only route to doing that in the current formation, would be Newell occupying one of the wide roles. Given the "wide" players are generally asked to play quite narrow anyway, I think he could do it. It's not like the winger role that Heckingbottom initially tried to play Newell.

If we had Newell a bit more narrow on the left, Youan or Boyle could play with more width on the other side. Don't see it happening but it's definitely an option to get our best players all starting.




Big call I know ,but I could see Hibs without Boyle as starter at the moment,he seems off to me and some time as impact off the bench might be helpful to both parties.

[basehibby]

Although improving, he’s effectively keeping Levitt out the side.

I’d much rather find a way of starting Levitt.

Not so as Jair has been playing on the wing. If anyone is keeping Levit out it's Jeggo.

[basehibby]

Great to see Tavares get his first Hibs goal which I think will give him a real confidence boost. He has really looked like he's finding his feet under Monty and the goal was thoroughly merited for the performances he's put in since being reintroduced. I stuck up for Johnson but Monty deserves credit for getting performances out of Jair that LJ could not - like a new signing!

[Hibees1973]

Really don't expect him to start today.

[Unseen work]

Really don't expect him to start today.

I think he’ll be on the wing with Boyle up top

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Weak as fk again tonight

[Centre Hawf]

Weak as fk again tonight

Let’s be sensible here. He was fine and battled well. Had a couple decent dribbles at his man and played the ball well. Not the one I’m pointing fingers at.

[7Hero]

I'd rather have Boyle on the wing, and lefondre or doidge with vente.

By playing jair we are not playing our strongest team.

[Since452]

Still think he looks really lightweight. Brushed off the ball so easily.

[Mcbizz1998]

*****. That’s what he is.

[The Captain....]

Let's be honest, he's playing cos he's one of our top earners rather than his ability to win us a game. That's what it comes down to.

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[LunasBoots]

Didn't think he was all that bad, should have been hooked much earlier than he was though.

[Bad Habits]

Tavares played well tonight. He beat his man/played a good ball much more than he lost it tonight. played much better than Youan.

[USA_Hibee]

Thought he did well. Happy for him. Looking forward to seeing how he develops now he has a manager who believes in him.

[Hiber-nation]

*****. That’s what he is.

Seriously? He was good tonight and subbing him for Whitaker ended any chance of us getting back into the game.

[dp00]

Hopefully he gets his confidence back and over the summer we can get him in the gym


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[Eyrie]

He was OK this evening, which meant he was much improved on last season.

As regards starting him, there weren't many alternatives when you look at our bench.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Better from him

[supermcginn]

*****. That’s what he is.

If he's ***** then what are the rest of them. He done well again he's clearly decent.

[1875M]

Thought he was decent. Don’t get why he was subbed.

[HendoDelivered]

Played well. Left their fullback for dead and was unlucky not to score at one point in the game

[DaveF]

He was ok. Not sure if he's getting better or a mediocre team around him are making him look better.

[JimBHibees]

If he's ***** then what are the rest of them. He done well again he's clearly decent.


*****. That’s what he is.

Clearly isnt

[Tully]

Subbed because one more tackle Beaton would have sent him off

[supermcginn]

Thought he was decent. Don’t get why he was subbed.

Exactly, he's clearly got something.

[nickwhibs]

Yeah he did well and is improving game by game. One of the positives

[Irish_Steve]

Another one who thought he played well today, had some really good touches and I loved the way he was asking the fans for more just after we "scored". Definitely worth a start despite what the keyboard managers say

[Unseen work]

Done well I thought.

Right decision to sub him imo as I thought he was a red waiting to happen.

One thing he needs to improve on though is being aware of his surroundings, often takes a touch thinking he has time only for someone to dispossess him

But what a difference in him.

Great skill to skin the defender and get a shot away, unlucky it never went in

[IberianHibernian]

Subbed because one more tackle Beaton would have sent him offPossibly yes . He was certainly holding back after his card and that was after only 28 minutes . Pity he was taken off cause he was one of the few players who looked like he could break down their defence .

[hibeejeebies]

Yeah he did well and is improving game by game. One of the positives

This for me

[greenlex]

I think there’s talent there but is too lightweight for the role he’s performing or should I say being asked to perform.

[TrinityHFC]

I thought he was pretty good and should get better as he gets more games. He has hardly played at any serious level. Liked his attitude too especially for a guy who can’t have enjoyed much of his time here so far. Good to see him bring a bit of personality.

[B.H.F.C]

I thought he was pretty good and should get better as he gets more games. He has hardly played at any serious level. Liked his attitude too especially for a guy who can’t have enjoyed much of his time here so far. Good to see him bring a bit of personality.

He wasn’t brilliant but there has definitely been enough in his performances in the last week to suggest that there is something to work with. Thought he should have done better with his chance but it was good play to give himself the opportunity. Looks like his confidence is growing.

[Tyler Durden]

Did well again today. Much better than Youan

[Heisenberg]

He was easily better than Youan.

[LewysGot2]

Did well again today. Much better than Youan

He didn't set the heather completely alight but he definitely contributed significantly more than Youan, who was easy for the SSBs to play against tonight.

I think some of our "big names" could have and should have done more.

[Stevie Reid]

He can’t drop into midfield, is easily brushed off the ball every single time. Get the ball in front of him with an isolated defender however, and he looks very dangerous.

Wide in a front three would seem to be the best option for him. Much like a 4-3-3 seems to be the best option for our squad right now.

[Glory Lurker]

His confidence is increasing every game. He's got the potential to end up very, very good.

[K-Zazu]

Thought he played well, it’s the squad depth defence and goalkeeper that are the main problems.

[Stuart93]

Was my man of the match today. Played very well

[MagicSwirlingShip]

He can’t drop into midfield, is easily brushed off the ball every single time. Get the ball in front of him with an isolated defender however, and he looks very dangerous.

Wide in a front three would seem to be the best option for him. Much like a 4-3-3 seems to be the best option for our squad right now.

Not with you on the 433. Agree on the rest

[Stairway 2 7]

One of our better players, anyone saying he was one of the poorer players today has got an agenda.

[Golden Bear]

He was "ok" but lacks the physicality and pace to do really well in Scotland.

[Stevie Reid]

Not with you on the 433. Agree on the rest

Fair enough. For me, a midfield three of Jeggo, Newell and Levitt, and a front three of Boyle (depending on injury), Vente and Youan is the best way to play to our strengths and get our best 11 on the park.

[Hibbyradge]

Thought he was decent. Don’t get why he was subbed.

Booked.

[Tambo]

Thought he had another good game for us, didn't look afraid to call for the ball in tight spaces.

Done really well to get past his man in the second half and get a shot in on goal.

[MKHIBEE]

Let's be honest, he's playing cos he's one of our top earners rather than his ability to win us a game. That's what it comes down to.

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Let’s be honest, that’s nonsense, NM obviously rates him and is giving him every chance to prove himself

[number9dream]

We need Vente in the box more often. Could Jair do the second striker / no.10 thing with Boyle and Youan wide - or is he too lightweight to be in the middle of the park?

[Ryan91]

He was "ok" but lacks the physicality and pace to do really well in Scotland.

He could be a bit more physical but I don't think him as being one who lacks in pace.

I think at times he's under pressure quicker than he realises, but that's more than likely due to his lack of playing time at the club, as he gains more first team minutes I think he'll improve there.

There's a player there and Monty and the coaching team seem to be trying to unlock the potential he clearly has

[Irish_Steve]

It kinds boils down to if Jair's good enough for NM (you know the one with the actual coaching badges unlike 99.9% of folk on here), then he's good enough for me

[BoomtownHibees]

It kinds boils down to if Jair's good enough for NM (you know the one with the actual coaching badges unlike 99.9% of folk on here), then he's good enough for me

So you think that every player a manager has ever picked has always been good enough, just cos they’ve got coaching badges?

[Callum_62]

I had to miss the last 20 mins of this but Jair was one of our better players up to that point

Unless he had absolute stinker last 20 then, then I don't really get the criticism of him (again)

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[WeeRussell]

I had to miss the last 20 mins of this but Jair was one of our better players up to that point

Unless he had absolute stinker last 20 then, then I don't really get the criticism of him (again)

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Taken off with 10 to go 👍 had a decent game again.

[JohnM1875]

Tavares was decent yesterday and is getting better/more confident. Think he'll continue to do so as well.

[Irish_Steve]

So you think that every player a manager has ever picked has always been good enough, just cos they’ve got coaching badges?

I think a manager knows more about the players than we ever will. There’s one person who is at training every day and it’s none of us. Jair has been playing better but some folk still have their agendas

[Hibees1973]

He has progressed from dire to way below average.

Not good enough. If Hibs become a successful side in the next couple of years (3rd/4th in the league and winning a cup) Tavares won't be in team. To be fair to him there are numerous other players, particularly in defence, who won't be around either.

I really don't get why some are now positive about Tavares. Have we improved with him in the team. No.

[Callum_62]

He's only started the last 3 games

If he's already progressed from "dire to way below average" imagine what he might be like when he starts 10 games

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[greenlex]

I think a manager knows more about the players than we ever will. There’s one person who is at training every day and it’s none of us. Jair has been playing better but some folk still have their agendas

I think you are most probably correct but I also get the feeling that if the coaches were not Raimundo and Miranda Then Jair wouldn’t be getting the same time in the pitch. They obviously think he’s worth persevering with.
I think once they get up to speed with the speed and strength with the Scottish game they may (for the good if the team and the player himself.) let him move on.

[bingo70]

He's only started the last 3 games

If he's already progressed from "dire to way below average" imagine what he might be like when he starts 10 games

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Mentioned it before but it’s funny that one of the attractions of this manager was his ability to get under performing players who were low on confidence and turn them into good effective players.

In practice, a lot of the same fans expect him to turn around a player completely in 3 games as well as him turning the fortunes of the team around in less than 10 games and no transfer window.

I wonder if in a lot of cases it’s maybe the fans expectations that are the problem?

[B.H.F.C]

He has progressed from dire to way below average.

Not good enough. If Hibs become a successful side in the next couple of years (3rd/4th in the league and winning a cup) Tavares won't be in team. To be fair to him there are numerous other players, particularly in defence, who won't be around either.

I really don't get why some are now positive about Tavares. Have we improved with him in the team. No.

To be fair to him, in the last week, I think he’s been better than way below average. Brilliant? Absolutely not. But he’s come in from nowhere really and he looks like he could make a contribution. We’re going to need him to because Boyle, who hasn’t really been contributing himself, is probably going to be out again.

[bingo70]

To be fair to him, in the last week, I think he’s been better than way below average. Brilliant? Absolutely not. But he’s come in from nowhere really and he looks like he could make a contribution. We’re going to need him to because Boyle, who hasn’t really been contributing himself, is probably going to be out again.

He’s brilliant compared to what he was showing before, the attitude he’s shown to get back into the team is brilliant and the effort he’s putting in to salvage his Hibs career is brilliant as well.

Taking all that out the equation though and judging him purely on yesterday, I think he was the most effective forward player we had and was better than Youann and Boyle. I don’t think he was necessarily brilliant but he’s definitely heading in the right direction.

[GloryGlory]

He’s brilliant compared to what he was showing before, the attitude he’s shown to get back into the team is brilliant and the effort he’s putting in to salvage his Hibs career is brilliant as well.

Taking all that out the equation though and judging him purely on yesterday, I think he was the most effective forward player we had and was better than Youann and Boyle. I don’t think he was necessarily brilliant but he’s definitely heading in the right direction.

ISTR talk at the end of last season and in the summer transfer window that Hibs were pressing him to move on and probably wouldn't have been difficult to deal with if another club came in. It does say something for his character that he chose to stay and fight for a place.

[BoomtownHibees]

I think a manager knows more about the players than we ever will. There’s one person who is at training every day and it’s none of us. Jair has been playing better but some folk still have their agendas

That’ll be that then. Better never question a manager and their team selection or substitutions ever again