Joe Newell

[Hiber-nation]

OK will take your word for it defo remember Ross playing him wide left in a four

As I said it has only been in the last two seasons that he has really shown true form consistency kicked on and made me sit up and take notice

I am delighted when Joe Newell turns up on a going day

I remember him coming on as a HT sub at the beginning of 2020 against Hamilton in CM and to everyone's amazement he played well, kept his place there for the home game v St Mirren, was doing well then got taken off injured. The only time I remember him playing on the left under JR was away to Killie when he got injured and subbed just after HT. He always played centrally after that.

If he had played in the centre when we signed him he would have toiled, he was so out of condition. That friendly at Dunfermline....couldn't quite believe how bad he was.

Excellent on Saturday though particularly in the first half. Still frustrates me a bit as he can do more, but definitely one of our top performers over the last 2-3 seasons.

[He's here!]

This is where I am. Talk about him being good all season isn’t balanced. He’s been good for most of it, but the first 3 league games, St Johnstone away and St Mirren at home are 5 games he was as bad as everyone else in performances no one deserved pass marks for.

My criticism of him isn’t the games where he’s anonymous, these are now the exception over the last 12-18 months. It’s not doing enough when we need someone to step up. Examples being the hearts game last game of the season last season and the Aberdeen semi after they scored. Instead of playing deep, recycling the ball and playing in front of the opposition we needed him to drive through the lines like he superbly did for the second goal yesterday. Our performances mimic Newell IMO. When he regresses to being a 3rd centre back we are often slow and lacking in tempo, a bad habit he still falls into too often IMO. When he’s playing higher up we have a better tempo and look a better team.

So more responsibility on his shoulders to step up than on other members of the team who aren't playing well? Do you mean that because of the position he plays he carries more responsibility than anyone else or that you have faith in him to be our most effective player?

[BILLYHIBS]

I remember him coming on as a HT sub at the beginning of 2020 against Hamilton in CM and to everyone's amazement he played well, kept his place there for the home game v St Mirren, was doing well then got taken off injured. The only time I remember him playing on the left under JR was away to Killie when he got injured and subbed just after HT. He always played centrally after that.

If he had played in the centre when we signed him he would have toiled, he was so out of condition. That friendly at Dunfermline....couldn't quite believe how bad he was.

Excellent on Saturday though particularly in the first half. Still frustrates me a bit as he can do more, but definitely one of our top performers over the last 2-3 seasons.

Agree

Needs to score more imho

Brilliant yesterday needs to keep it going

[MWHIBBIES]

Agree

Needs to score more imho

Brilliant yesterday needs to keep it going

As many goal contributions as Boyle this season. Just admit you'll find anything to dislike the guy.

[BILLYHIBS]

As many goal contributions as Boyle this season. Just admit you'll find anything to dislike the guy.

Harsh !

Anyone wearing the famous green and white always gets my full support

I have already said he is probably our best player now was brilliant on Saturday just needs to do it every week

Seems like a really nice guy loves it here and is settled not a lot to dislike tbh

10 goals from 181 games from someone who plays so far up the park is one area that can be improved upon

Martin Boyle has scored 77:310 but is more of a striker

Boyle has scored 9 Joe has scored 4 this season

[Smartie]

18 months :faf:

He moved to the middle under Ross, after about 4 months here. 18 months? Not quite.

He played every week as we finished 3rd, 4 seasons ago. In central midfield.

I may be wrong but after Hecky was punted and Eddie May took temp charge, he went to a diamond with 2 up front (which helped Doidge in a big way) and had Newell on the left of the 2 in the middle of the diamond. Ross kept it the same for a handful of games before starting to put his own mark on the team.

He was superb in that sort of "left of the diamond" role but we've never really played that way since then.

When he was playing on the left under Hecky he was at his most hot and cold, I think. I didn't go to all the early season matches and seemed to pick the "hot" ones, not being able to understand the grief he was getting from some folk on here. Then I saw "cold" Joe Newell and it all became clear.

We've not had that guy for a few years imo and even when he's not been playing well he's still been putting a shift in and trying to carry a woeful midfield, to his own detriment. Now he's got the quality of player he needs around him we're seeing more of the best of him, which is great to see.

What he doesn't do so much when he plays centrally is dribble, which is arguably his greatest attribute. You hear players say stuff about not being able to get the ball off him in training and it's something he only really shows in flashes these days.

[Centre Hawf]

No, not 9 months under hecky. Hecky signed Newell in summer, was binned early November, Ross never played Newell out wide.

He played him once or twice at wing back, and on the left of a diamond. Never as a winger.

Joe has since played 4 seasons as a starting central midfielder. To great effect. Get over his early troubles. It's embarrassing it's still mentioned. He played about 7 games wide left, 5 years ago.

Bit of a tangent but I remember watching him play left wing back away to Killie and this was smack back in the middle of his "This guy is utter guff" territory and I thought he was excellent and wondered if that was where he would find his calling. Luckily for us someone decided to keep playing him CM instead instead of thinking the same as me.

[.Sean.]

Hope a contract extension is on the table asap. Due to expire summer 2025 iirc
Don’t think he’ll be difficult to negotiate with. Loves it here and Edinburgh in general, we’ll keep him until the end of his career or later stages at the very least IMO

[MWHIBBIES]

Harsh !

Anyone wearing the famous green and white always gets my full support

I have already said he is probably our best player now was brilliant on Saturday just needs to do it every week

Seems like a really nice guy loves it here and is settled not a lot to dislike tbh

10 goals from 181 games from someone who plays so far up the park is one area that can be improved upon

Martin Boyle has scored 77:310 but is more of a striker

Boyle has scored 9 Joe has scored 4 this season

And Joe has 9 assists, Boyle 4.

Joes goal contributions this season is absolutely brilliant for a deep midfielder.

[Smartie]

Bit of a tangent but I remember watching him play left wing back away to Killie and this was smack back in the middle of his "This guy is utter guff" territory and I thought he was excellent and wondered if that was where he would find his calling. Luckily for us someone decided to keep playing him CM instead instead of thinking the same as me.

Around that time I was wondering if he was best suited to being a "number 10"? Good weight of pass, good ability to drop a shoulder and make space.

His shooting is bizarre - occasionally very clean and exactly what you need, often total sclaffs.

Either way, it's hard to argue he he hasn't found his position.

[Donegal Hibby]

And Joe has 9 assists, Boyle 4.

Joes goal contributions this season is absolutely brilliant for a deep midfielder.

In fairness you'd expect his assists to be fairly good considering he takes alot of our set pieces though.

[BILLYHIBS]

And Joe has 9 assists, Boyle 4.

Joes goal contributions this season is absolutely brilliant for a deep midfielder.

Yip nine is very good and 4 more goals than I expected as well tbh 😀

Please do not get me started on the hundreds of corners and free kicks he has taken over the last five years that have amounted to nothing

As I keep saying has been good over the last two years and very good when in the mood

Needs to keep his good form going at Ibrox in a fortnight and not another disappearing act 😀

[Centre Hawf]

Around that time I was wondering if he was best suited to being a "number 10"? Good weight of pass, good ability to drop a shoulder and make space.

His shooting is bizarre - occasionally very clean and exactly what you need, often total sclaffs.

Either way, it's hard to argue he he hasn't found his position.

That is probably my only real complaint of Joe is that for a guy who clearly very talented with the ball and has the technique you want in a player, he doesn't seem to shoot enough/score enough for someone of his ability.

His finish against Luzern is an example of the type of goal you'd love to see him have a go at more often.

[MWHIBBIES]

Yip nine is very good and 4 more goals than I expected as well tbh 😀

Please do not get me started on the hundreds of corners and free kicks he has taken over the last five years that have amounted to nothing

As I keep saying has been good over the last two years and very good when in the mood

Needs to keep his good form going at Ibrox in a fortnight and not another disappearing act 😀

His corners and free kicks are good, always have been.

[BILLYHIBS]

His corners and free kicks are good, always have been.

Nope

[VoltaireHibs]

Harsh !

Anyone wearing the famous green and white always gets my full support

I have already said he is probably our best player now was brilliant on Saturday just needs to do it every week

Seems like a really nice guy loves it here and is settled not a lot to dislike tbh

10 goals from 181 games from someone who plays so far up the park is one area that can be improved upon

Martin Boyle has scored 77:310 but is more of a striker

Boyle has scored 9 Joe has scored 4 this season

Come on! You can't compare Boyle and Newell on goal stats 😂

That is not Newell's job in this team. Half the season he's been fire fighting in midfield trying to do his job, another midfielders job, and half of Dylan Levitt's job!

Honest to god, without Joe Newell we'd be fighting relegation this season. He's the only player that always gives his all. Is he a world beater? No. Is an excellent Spl midfielder? Absolutely yes. He'd play in every other teams midfield bar the cheeks.

Hearts and Aberdeen would love to have him.

[Hibernian Verse]

I can't believe I've just caught up on this and read about Joe's debut at Stirling Albion for the hundredth time. A game the whole team drew and scraped an extra point on penalties.

Wow.

[Chip shop Joe]

Nope

You are never going to win this one Billy! I have said it before and will say it again I think MW is actually Joe😃

[BILLYHIBS]

Come on! You can't compare Boyle and Newell on goal stats ��

That is not Newell's job in this team. Half the season he's been fire fighting in midfield trying to do his job, another midfielders job, and half of Dylan Levitt's job!

Honest to god, without Joe Newell we'd be fighting relegation this season. He's the only player that always gives his all. Is he a world beater? No. Is an excellent Spl midfielder? Absolutely yes. He'd play in every other teams midfield bar the cheeks.

Hearts and Aberdeen would love to have him.

All I said was Joe could do with scoring more goals 10:181 #253

I am sure he would like to

Who mentioned Martin Boyle ?

Keep up !

[VoltaireHibs]

All I said was Joe could do with scoring more goals 10:181 #253

I am sure he would like to

Who mentioned Martin Boyle ?

Keep up !

You did!! 😂

Ah, edit, It's MW your quoting. All good. 😉

[MWHIBBIES]

You are never going to win this one Billy! I have said it before and will say it again I think MW is actually Joe😃

Not at all.

I just don't talk rubbish about him. 18 months at left wing being a good example.

[BILLYHIBS]

Not at all.

I just don't talk rubbish about him. 18 months at left wing being a good example.

What about he is brilliant at corners and free kicks ( I cringe every time he takes one ) and has been like Iniesta for the last four years ?

He has only really been good for the last two years

You are in denial 😀

[BILLYHIBS]

You did!! 😂

Ah, edit, It's MW your quoting. All good. 😉

👍

[MWHIBBIES]

What about he is brilliant at corners and free kicks ( I cringe every time he takes one ) and has been like Iniesta for the last four years ?

He has only really been good for the last two years

You are in denial 😀

I never said either of those things.

He was good the season we finished 3rd, and the following one. Been very good the last 2.

You think we had a passenger playing every week and skooshed 3rd?

He is good at corners and free kicks, I didn't say brilliant.

Amazing that you get stick on here for liking a player, but disliking them and telling lies about them is fine.

[BILLYHIBS]

I never said either of those things.

He was good the season we finished 3rd, and the following one. Been very good the last 2.

You think we had a passenger playing every week and skooshed 3rd?

He is good at corners and free kicks, I didn't say brilliant.

Amazing that you get stick on here for liking a player, but disliking them and telling lies about them is fine.

Might have been a few months out with him being a poor left winger to an average wing back DM CM under Ross before morphing into the decent DM who puts in a decent shift most of the time with the odd brilliant performance thrown in

Fitba stats was down last night 😀

I repeat I am not a fan I do not dislike the guy I have said he looks as though he cares is probably our best player maybe should be captain and has really only been good the last two seasons but feel his next below par performance might be just around the corner

[Libby Hibby]

Might have been a few months out with him being a poor left winger to an average wing back DM CM under Ross before morphing into the decent DM who puts in a decent shift most of the time with the odd brilliant performance thrown in

Fitba stats was down last night 😀

I repeat I am not a fan I do not dislike the guy I have said he looks as though he cares is probably our best player maybe should be captain and has really only been good the last two seasons but feel his next below par performance might be just around the corner

Out of curiosity, why are you not a fan?

[Since90+2]

Newell's a good player. Perhaps a tad overrated by a few on here but at our level he's a good starter for us.

I'd be offering him a good wage to sign a new contract, nothing crazy so if he wants one last big payday we might have to step aside, but he's definitely one we should be trying to keep.

[BILLYHIBS]

Out of curiosity, why are you not a fan?

See #240

Joe is hot and cold tbf recently he has been more hot than cold and his attitude is spot on no denying

Is a much improved player

Love him when he is hot not so on an off day

I suppose I do not fully trust him

His goal against Lucern for example would like to see more of that and see him go on more mazy dribbles dragging us up the park

[Since90+2]

See #240

Joe is hot and cold tbf recently he has been more hot than cold and his attitude is spot on no denying

Is a much improved player

Love him when he is hot not so on an off day

I suppose I do not fully trust him

His goal against Lucern for example would like to see more of that and see him go on more mazy dribbles dragging us up the park

Unfortunately we are at a level where very few players will be consistently playing at a high level every single week. Those that do won't be at the club long.

Newell is generally pretty consistent. He has his off days, but that could be said of every single player at the club currently.

A few years back Boyle was the exception to that when he was on it pretty much every week, but I think injuries have taken their toll on him.

[BILLYHIBS]

Unfortunately we are at a level where very few players will be consistently playing at a high level every single week. Those that do won't be at the club long.

Newell is generally pretty consistent. He has his off days, but that could be said of every single player at the club currently.

A few years back Boyle was the exception to that when he was on it pretty much every week, but I think injuries have taken their toll on him.

👍

Boyle looks as though he has lost a yard

[Smartie]

I was thinking that Boyle had looked much more like his old self since coming back in January. His injury came just as he was picking up a bit of momentum again.

I wasn’t all that impressed by his start to the season and thought he looked a different player to his pre-injury self.

Even if he’s lost a yard, he looks like he’s added more to his game too - some of his corners have been immense.

[hibsbollah]

Every time i see a Joe Newell thread i wonder….

a)How many separate threads have we had on Joe and b) how many genuinely different takes have been offered up?

Im guessing a) at least 12 and b) maybe 4 max.

I like him and always have. I think theres not much else to say.

[Bridge hibs]

Every time i see a Joe Newell thread i wonder….

a)How many separate threads have we had on Joe and b) how many genuinely different takes have been offered up?

Im guessing a) at least 12 and b) maybe 4 max.

I like him and always have. I think theres not much else to say.Think I counted about 8, the thread from 2019 is interesting, one of Newells most fervent of supporters on this thread wasnt very supportive back then 😁

[hibsbollah]

Think I counted about 8, the thread from 2019 is interesting, one of Newells most fervent of supporters on this thread wasnt very supportive back then 😁

It was very possibly me, i am a two faced get at the best of times.

[Bridge hibs]

It was very possibly me, i am a two faced get at the best of times.

Im no telling 🫢

[MWHIBBIES]

Think I counted about 8, the thread from 2019 is interesting, one of Newells most fervent of supporters on this thread wasnt very supportive back then ��

He was dreadful in 2019, so that's not surprising. 4 good years since.

[hibsbollah]

He was dreadful in 2019, so that's not surprising. 4 good years since.

If you called Joe a dick in 2019 i think we should be told. Puts a whole new spin on things.

[ekhibee]

For me the bottom line is we really don't get that many goals from him, for someone who obviously has ability and is a regular in the team. At times his passing is sublime, at other times I think we're too reliant on him because he is the main passer to the forwards, or he was until Marcondes came in. For me Marcondes is a better, more consistent player, but Newell is still somebody I would want to keep, and we'll lose Marcondes at the end of the season so we'll probably go back to relying on Newell unless we get another loan deal from somewhere.

[hibsbollah]

For me the bottom line is we really don't get that many goals from him, for someone who obviously has ability and is a regular in the team. At times his passing is sublime, at other times I think we're too reliant on him because he is the main passer to the forwards, or he was until Marcondes came in. For me Marcondes is a better, more consistent player, but Newell is still somebody I would want to keep, and we'll lose Marcondes at the end of the season so we'll probably go back to relying on Newell unless we get another loan deal from somewhere.

I think the realities are that we WILL continue to get loan deals from a well kent source for the foreseeable, and worrying about losing players in the system weve signed up to is pointless. May as well just enjoy the ride.

[Eyrie]

I think the realities are that we WILL continue to get loan deals from a well kent source for the foreseeable, and worrying about losing players in the system weve signed up to is pointless. May as well just enjoy the ride.

I'll be delighted to get more loan deals of the quality of Marcondes as part of a multi club arrangement.

I'll be equally delighted to have players good enough to be wanted by richer clubs in the group.

[basehibby]

Sometimes this site has me shaking my head with disbelief. Newell deservedly won player of the season last term and has certainly been one of our best this term.
Sure he had a shakey start at Hibs when played on left wing but as soon as moved into CM started to look the part and has grown steadily into one of our best players since then.
Of vourse we'd all like him to score more often but you could say that for just about any player.
He is consistent enough in his qualities - great passer, strong in the challenge and not afraid of the physical side, intelligent player who has grown to love life at ER and shown leadership qualities such that noone argued when he was handed the armband this season.
Sure he has the occasional off day but what player doesn't?
Why some feel the need to pick holes is beyond me.

[WeeRussell]

Let’s go round again. One more time.

[ekhibee]

Sometimes this site has me shaking my head with disbelief. Newell deservedly won player of the season last term and has certainly been one of our best this term.
Sure he had a shakey start at Hibs when played on left wing but as soon as moved into CM started to look the part and has grown steadily into one of our best players since then.
Of vourse we'd all like him to score more often but you could say that for just about any player.
He is consistent enough in his qualities - great passer, strong in the challenge and not afraid of the physical side, intelligent player who has grown to love life at ER and shown leadership qualities such that noone argued when he was handed the armband this season.
Sure he has the occasional off day but what player doesn't?
Why some feel the need to pick holes is beyond me.

Because it previous years it wasn't just 'an occasional off day', but I accept that this season he has been more consistent, definitely, good player on his day.

[keep the faith]

Every time i see a Joe Newell thread i wonder….

a)How many separate threads have we had on Joe and b) how many genuinely different takes have been offered up?

Im guessing a) at least 12 and b) maybe 4 max.

I like him and always have. I think theres not much else to say.

The whole thing is bizarre. IMO Newell is the most important player we gave had since McGinn. He bursts a gut every week, drives us on and is by also our most skillful player. We are lucky to have him.

On match days its clear how much those in the stadium value JN, but on here there are one or two who just seem to have it in for him. I can't make sense of it.

JN could be MOTM every week (and he often is) but the day he is quieter then you better believe there will be another Newell thread featuring the exact same posters. Often it's pretty clear Joe is out of position or following our various managers instruction.

The negative obsessions are strange, unrepresentative, and getting a bit dull.

Time to move on?

[hibsbollah]

The whole thing is bizarre. IMO Newell is the most important player we gave had since McGinn. He bursts a gut every week, drives us on and is by also our most skillful player. We are lucky to have him.

On match days its clear how much those in the stadium value JN, but on here there are one or two who just seem to have it in for him. I can't make sense of it.

JN could be MOTM every week (and he often is) but the day he is quieter then you better believe there will be another Newell thread featuring the exact same posters. Often it's pretty clear Joe is out of position or following our various managers instruction.

The negative obsessions are strange, unrepresentative, and getting a bit dull.

Time to move on?

I think you're right about the disconnect re-the views on here and the way hes received in the stadium. Conversely there are some players i feel get a worse time than they deserve from the fans in the ground (Youan in particular).

[BILLYHIBS]

I think you're right about the disconnect re-the views on here and the way hes received in the stadium. Conversely there are some players i feel get a worse time than they deserve from the fans in the ground (Youan in particular).

The worst in recent memory was Steven Whittaker in the twilight of his career and still a very good player for us getting pelters off some random in the East

He just stopped and shook his head

Dearie me !

Agree on Youan was very good on Saturday

[CockneyRebel]

See #240

Joe is hot and cold tbf recently he has been more hot than cold and his attitude is spot on no denying

Is a much improved player

Love him when he is hot not so on an off day

I suppose I do not fully trust him

His goal against Lucern for example would like to see more of that and see him go on more mazy dribbles dragging us up the park



If you use that same yardstick on the whole of the Hibs squad then how can you trust any of them?

[BILLYHIBS]

If you use that same yardstick on the whole of the Hibs squad then how can you trust any of them?

Good point

Part of the fun of being a Hibby I suppose ?

Wasn’t that long ago that we went on an eight game run in the League when we could not buy a win and everyone was shouting for the Manager’s head the low light being a 0-3 loss at home to St Mirren with more or less the same group of players that had cost three previous Manager’s their jobs

The quality of player is improving but even they can be inconsistent

[VoltaireHibs]

For me the bottom line is we really don't get that many goals from him, for someone who obviously has ability and is a regular in the team. At times his passing is sublime, at other times I think we're too reliant on him because he is the main passer to the forwards, or he was until Marcondes came in. For me Marcondes is a better, more consistent player, but Newell is still somebody I would want to keep, and we'll lose Marcondes at the end of the season so we'll probably go back to relying on Newell unless we get another loan deal from somewhere.

Marcondes is a better more consistent player than Joe Newell? Seriously? What exactly are you basing that on?

The lengths folk will go to in order to drag Newell down. Is extraordinary. The guy even has a brilliant accent, 'th's' and everything.







😁

[Broken Gnome]

The Newell of the JDH-Campbell-Newell days was a pain in the arse, and guilty of what his critics would say about him. That Falkirk League Cup was fairly symbolic of him - struggling against lesser opponents, supposedly the main man in midfield, and he did naff all to drag us to a result.

That Newell's long gone though, whether it's a confidence thing, he's a better athlete or he's simply improved. He's largely beyond any specific criticism now, and his ineffective games are so few and far between it's barely an issue worth the umpteen pages of age-old discussion.

[McD]

Come on! You can't compare Boyle and Newell on goal stats 😂

That is not Newell's job in this team. Half the season he's been fire fighting in midfield trying to do his job, another midfielders job, and half of Dylan Levitt's job!

Honest to god, without Joe Newell we'd be fighting relegation this season. He's the only player that always gives his all. Is he a world beater? No. Is an excellent Spl midfielder? Absolutely yes. He'd play in every other teams midfield bar the cheeks.

Hearts and Aberdeen would love to have him.



You think we have no other players that always give their all?

Some may not be very good, but that’s not a brush to tar all the other players with. Some of them, absolutely. But not all.

[patlowe]

Sometimes this site has me shaking my head with disbelief. Newell deservedly won player of the season last term and has certainly been one of our best this term.
Sure he had a shakey start at Hibs when played on left wing but as soon as moved into CM started to look the part and has grown steadily into one of our best players since then.
Of vourse we'd all like him to score more often but you could say that for just about any player.
He is consistent enough in his qualities - great passer, strong in the challenge and not afraid of the physical side, intelligent player who has grown to love life at ER and shown leadership qualities such that noone argued when he was handed the armband this season.
Sure he has the occasional off day but what player doesn't?
Why some feel the need to pick holes is beyond me.

Felt similarly coming on to this thread as Newell has consistently been very good for a couple of years now, carrying the team at times. Of course he doesn't have absolutely everything but he has a hell of a lot. It's a bit of a cliche but if he was quicker and scored more goals he would simply not be at Hibs in his prime years - in fact I would love to know where we're going to unearth a midfielder who can run, control the game, battle, create, score goals consistently etc. There isn't a better central midfielder outside of the OF IMO and we will sorely miss him when he's gone.

[VoltaireHibs]

You think we have no other players that always give their all?

Some may not be very good, but that’s not a brush to tar all the other players with. Some of them, absolutely. But not all.

No, I think we have others that do their best as well. Rocky, Fish, Marshall, Vente, but Joe is probably the most consistent of them all.

[JohnM1875]

Posted in the summer transfer thread but this is probably a better place for it.

Newell signs extension through to summer 27

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/2024/july/12/joe-newell-extends-contract---named-hibs-captain/

[H18 SFR]

Absolutely delighted with this news.

[Winston Ingram]

Brilliant news. Excellent decision to make him captain as well

[wookie70]

I was photographing him today. Absolutely delighted to hear the news and Joe was all smiles. He is a fantastic advocate for the club

[keep the faith]

Yaaas Joe! Top player and top guy.

[Steve20]

Yaaas Joe! Top player and top guy.

Sorry, but he's not a top player. Another one who has one good game in four.

I take it we're skint because if we can't improve on the likes of Newell, it's another long miserable season ahead.

[flash]

Sorry, but he's not a top player. Another one who has one good game in four.

I take it we're skint because if we can't improve on the likes of Newell, it's another long miserable season ahead.

Aye so he does.

[Golden Bear]

Great player, we're lucky to have him.

[04Sauzee]

Sorry, but he's not a top player. Another one who has one good game in four.

I take it we're skint because if we can't improve on the likes of Newell, it's another long miserable season ahead.

Yeah were skint, I know this because I keep getting told on Honest.net

[MWHIBBIES]

Sorry, but he's not a top player. Another one who has one good game in four.

I take it we're skint because if we can't improve on the likes of Newell, it's another long miserable season ahead.

He is without any question our best midfielder, and a good player in this league. Not him needing improved on short term.

[HH81]

Good player and he seems to love being at Hibs.

[Bridge hibs]

Sorry, but he's not a top player. Another one who has one good game in four.

I take it we're skint because if we can't improve on the likes of Newell, it's another long miserable season ahead.

How do you know we cant improve on Newell ?

[Unseen work]

Delighted with this news

[supermcginn]

I was photographing him today. Absolutely delighted to hear the news and Joe was all smiles. He is a fantastic advocate for the club

A fantastic advocate, not sure about that. Not very Hibs class having a drink driver as club captain.

[Exuberance1875]

Big season for him now that’s for sure!

[EdinMike]

A Leeds fan and friend of mine singled out Newell as a top player and a perfect Midfielder… so take that for what it’s worth

[MWHIBBIES]

A fantastic advocate, not sure about that. Not very Hibs class having a drink driver as club captain.

What about a person who made a bad error, taken their punishment and not repeated it? Or does Hibs class mean you are flawless from the minute you exit the womb?

[Ozyhibby]

A fantastic advocate, not sure about that. Not very Hibs class having a drink driver as club captain.

Not really relevant. I’m no fan of Newell as a player but that’s not a reason for him not being Captain.


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[keep the faith]

Sorry, but he's not a top player. Another one who has one good game in four.

I take it we're skint because if we can't improve on the likes of Newell, it's another long miserable season ahead.

Will quote you on that at the end of the season. Joe Newell is a terrific player and leader. SDG knows that.

[Exuberance1875]

A fantastic advocate, not sure about that. Not very Hibs class having a drink driver as club captain.

I highly doubt this crossed anyone’s mind in the decision making process. It’s been and gone and he’s paid for it.

Won’t be the last Hibs player to make a mistake in their personal life. People can comment on his football ability which, as fans we are allowed to. But I don’t think there’s any doubting his attitude and desire to do well for Hibs

[IanM]

Has his critics but sometimes keeping the band together after tough times reap rewards

£10 first goal scorer bet on Saturday 👏🏻

[Exuberance1875]

Has his critics but sometimes keeping the band together after tough times reap rewards

£10 first goal scorer bet on Saturday 👏🏻

Quite like the idea behind this, I have personally been a critic, but can see the sense in buying into someone and trusting them with something to build upon.

Good luck to him and I hope he does the job for us.

[Jones28]

Good stuff 👍👍

[Brightside]

Was signed up months ago. No issue with it. He's a good consistent pro.

[SHODAN]

Oh, this is going to be a fun thread!!!

[WestStandWillie]

Expect a lot more from Newell this season.

He's got to own that midfield - something he was guilty of not doing last season.

[lyonhibs]

Sorry, but he's not a top player. Another one who has one good game in four.

I take it we're skint because if we can't improve on the likes of Newell, it's another long miserable season ahead.

Now now, don't you go on being so overbearingly positive again...

[J-C]

My only gripe with Newell was his consistency which seems to be a lot better, after listening to him being mic'd up I liked what I was hearing. If Gray feels he deserves a new deal and captaincy, then so be it, onwards abd upwards.

[500miles]

There were points last season where, especially when we didn't have the ball, it was only the back 4 and Newell who we've involved in the game.

NMW and Campbell will make a difference to that and hopefully that will see us dominating the middle third a lot more.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Hoping he can lead us to a successful few seasons.

[The Modfather]

The year is 2027 and the conversation is “Newell will be better with better players beside him”.

[LeithMike]

He is without any question our best midfielder, and a good player in this league. Not him needing improved on short term.

That’s a lot of rubbish. Of course there are a huge amount of questions.

I think this is a horrendous footballing decision from the club. Really poor.

[Wilson]

The year is 2027 and the conversation is “Newell will be better with better players beside him”.

And we'll still be reading such nonsense. Change the record trolls!

[Wilson]

That’s a lot of rubbish. Of course there are a huge amount of questions.

I think this is a horrendous footballing decision from the club. Really poor.

You'd be a good poster with better posters around you?

[B.H.F.C]

My only gripe with Newell was his consistency which seems to be a lot better, after listening to him being mic'd up I liked what I was hearing. If Gray feels he deserves a new deal and captaincy, then so be it, onwards abd upwards.

I’ve never thought consistency was the issue. He largely plays to a similar level. It’s not as bad as some people think but I don’t see the top player that others will tell you he is. He’ll chuck in the occasional brilliant performance though.

If Newell and Campbell are going to make up two thirds of our midfield I don’t expect to see anything different in there than what we have for most of the last few years.

News isn’t really any surprise though, thought it was nailed on he’d be captain.

[B.H.F.C]

And we'll still be reading such nonsense. Change the record trolls!

Folk aren’t trolling. I just can’t remember many players splitting opinion like Newell.

[Last Minute]

That’s a lot of rubbish. Of course there are a huge amount of questions.

I think this is a horrendous footballing decision from the club. Really poor.


Christ knows what you are watching every week but its certainly not Joe Newell anyway. Joe is miles a head of any player currently at the club but cant do everything himself. Glad your supporting the players and club though.

[The Modfather]

I’ve never thought consistency was the issue. He largely plays to a similar level. It’s not as bad as some people think but I don’t see the top player that others will tell you he is. He’ll chuck in the occasional brilliant performance though.

If Newell and Campbell are going to make up two thirds of our midfield I don’t expect to see anything different in there than what we have for most of the last few years.

News isn’t really any surprise though, thought it was nailed on he’d be captain.

That’s my big concern, that we won’t see any new midfielders come in. Certainly not quality starters, and a Gray midfield looks like Newell, Campbell and alternating between Amos & NMW. With Levitt floating about.

[Hibees1973]

That’s a lot of rubbish. Of course there are a huge amount of questions.

I think this is a horrendous footballing decision from the club. Really poor.

Were you part of the Ian Gordon recruitment team?

[CapitalGreen]

That’s my big concern, that we won’t see any new midfielders come in. Certainly not quality starters, and a Gray midfield looks like Newell, Campbell and alternating between Amos & NMW. With Levitt floating about.

Going to be running it back with a Campbell/Newell midfield again this season, yippee

[B.H.F.C]

That’s my big concern, that we won’t see any new midfielders come in. Certainly not quality starters, and a Gray midfield looks like Newell, Campbell and alternating between Amos & NMW. With Levitt floating about.

I don’t think it’s a surprise. Without offloading any, we were always unlikely to add IMO. Regardless of any opinions on the quality, it’s the one area of the park where we have too many bodies.

It really is a case of a manager needing to get more out of players rather than just sign their way out of it I think.

[Jock O]

The year is 2027 and the conversation is “Newell will be better with better players beside him”.

Will you have watched him live by then?

[GreenCastle]

Was chatting with some friends - what do we think Newells top 5 games for Hibs have been?

[Lago]

Were you part of the Ian Gordon recruitment team?
Here we go :rolleyes:

[supermcginn]

There were points last season where, especially when we didn't have the ball, it was only the back 4 and Newell who we've involved in the game.

NMW and Campbell will make a difference to that and hopefully that will see us dominating the middle third a lot more.

We won't be dominating anyone with Campbell in midfield, his passing is atrocious.

[Fergus52]

Was chatting with some friends - what do we think Newells top 5 games for Hibs have been?

Luzern at home,

Boyle hat trick at Hampden,

The 0-0 midweek evening derby a couple seasons ago (yeah we didn't win but he completely dominated Baningame that night, who had been touted as the best midfielder outside the old firm that season)

Are three that immediately come to mind for me, theres been plenty more run of the mill games the past few years where I've thought he was excellent and our best player though

[Fergus52]

The chat that all his passes are sideways or backwards is complete nonsense as well.

A jambo stats guy done a breakdown of how the hearts midfielders compared to the rest of the league for various metrics, and Newell had the 6th most progressive passes of any midfielder in the league, including the old firm.

[keep the faith]

The year is 2027 and the conversation is “Newell will be better with better players beside him”.

And there he is....

[Gatecrasher]

Great news that one of the best players we have is committed to staying.

[hibeerealist]

Speechless, there was I thinking we were finally getting things together.

[NC1875]

There were points last season where, especially when we didn't have the ball, it was only the back 4 and Newell who we've involved in the game.

NMW and Campbell will make a difference to that and hopefully that will see us dominating the middle third a lot more.

Newell, Campbell and dominating in the same sentence 😂😂😂

[hibsbollah]

Go get ‘em Joe.

[McD]

I’m not a Newell fan, but I get the argument for tying him down.


That said, when combined with the impression people have that Campbell is also going to be playing a big part this season, I do feel pretty deflated. We’ve seen the 2 of them making up a large chunk of our midfield more than enough times to recognise that it won’t be the midfield we will need to compete for 3rd, surely Gray has to have seen that as well.


We have a lot of one paced, relatively immobile midfielders (Campbell is the exception to the immobile part) who all want to play with the ball in front of them (Campbell the only one who will run beyond the ball, and he has serious shortcomings in his game as well), imo we need some grit and drive added to the midfield, and some creativity.


Considering NMW and Amos will be regulars in midfield as well (given they only signed a few months ago), I doubt we’re going to see much of either.

[Phil MaGlass]

Well done Joe, all the best for the season ahead.

[JimBHibees]

Luzern at home,

Boyle hat trick at Hampden,

The 0-0 midweek evening derby a couple seasons ago (yeah we didn't win but he completely dominated Baningame that night, who had been touted as the best midfielder outside the old firm that season)

Are three that immediately come to mind for me, theres been plenty more run of the mill games the past few years where I've thought he was excellent and our best player though

1 0 derby Nissy scored in he was excellent

[Bobby's Cinema]

Luzern at home,

Boyle hat trick at Hampden,

The 0-0 midweek evening derby a couple seasons ago (yeah we didn't win but he completely dominated Baningame that night, who had been touted as the best midfielder outside the old firm that season)

Are three that immediately come to mind for me, theres been plenty more run of the mill games the past few years where I've thought he was excellent and our best player though
From last season I thought he was was excellent v celtic at ER before the dodgy pen decided the game.

Needs to be more consistent this season. Too often when the onus is on us to break teams down and we are struggling he goes into that mode of sitting deeper playing side to side without urgency. I think he needs to be the one to know when to lift it when we fall into that pattern. I do think he can be a leader though I like what SDG is doing so far.

[Jim44]

I can’t understand why this news would upset anyone. Satisfied at worst, delighted for most of us.

[flash]

Speechless, there was I thinking we were finally getting things together.

This seems to be upsetting all the right people.

[500miles]

We won't be dominating anyone with Campbell in midfield, his passing is atrocious.

Campbell and Newell were absolutely key in the way we dominated Motherwell when Gray took over from Monty.

Campbell broke into the squad by pressing Steven Davis out of existence at Hampden. He's added goals to his game, genuine physicality, and in terms of his passing, I reckon he's cost us less from unforced errors than Levitt. He's our most advanced midfielder, expect him to give the ball away more often.

[B.H.F.C]

I can’t understand why this news would upset anyone. Satisfied at worst, delighted for most of us.

Upset is maybe pushing it a bit, but you can’t fail to have noticed that quite a number of people have a slightly more negative opinion of Newell. Thoughts aside, he splits opinion big time and it’s no surprise that not everyone thinks it’s a good idea.

[Hibiza]

Congratulations on new contract Joe .

[easty]

Delighted. Quality player.

[hibsbollah]

This seems to be upsetting all the right people.

As we see from recent Hibs social media activity, any player connected with last season with the possible exception of Myziane was going to be targeted by a loud minority who would probably struggle to dress themselves in the morning. This place is no different really. Im happy to debate what place Joe should have in the team and balanced pros and cons, but with some folk im just not interested. They just dont like getting behind players theyve decided arent good enough, its that simple.

[Donegal Hibby]

We won't be dominating anyone with Campbell in midfield, his passing is atrocious.

Gray won't be playing Campbell as a playmaker in our team , he'll be in the team to chip in with some goals and as Gray has stated a box to box player .

Our two CM will be the ones hopefully dominating and getting the ball forward to Campbell/ strikers .

PAOK who we know are a good side which we beat with a midfield of Newell , NMW and Campbell . Who knows , maybe Gray can get our midfield doing better than our last two managers.

[easty]

Gray won't be playing Campbell as a playmaker in our team , he'll be in the team to chip in with some goals and as Gray has stated a box to box player .

Our two CM will be the ones hopefully dominating and getting the ball forward to Campbell/ strikers .

PAOK who we know are a good side which we beat with a midfield of Newell , NMW and Campbell . Who knows , maybe Gray can get our midfield doing better than our last two managers.

PAOK was a friendly. Means absolutely nowt.

[MWHIBBIES]

Gray won't be playing Campbell as a playmaker in our team , he'll be in the team to chip in with some goals and as Gray has stated a box to box player .

Our two CM will be the ones hopefully dominating and getting the ball forward to Campbell/ strikers .

PAOK who we know are a good side which we beat with a midfield of Newell , NMW and Campbell . Who knows , maybe Gray can get our midfield doing better than our last two managers.

A box to box player is a central midfielder, and needs good passing ability.

[Donegal Hibby]

PAOK was a friendly. Means absolutely nowt.

True it was a friendly though if we had taken a heavy beating from them it's quite possible there would have been a few upsets and making it known all the same.

[Donegal Hibby]

A box to box player is a central midfielder, and needs good passing ability.

You'll need to inform Gray of this . He's not a CM , Gray has stated he's a 10 with a difference. Our passing, ability to dominate games will be mainly down to our two CM's which will consist of Newell and probably Amos / NMW . I'm hoping it's not Newell and Levitt as that partnership didn't work very well last season IMO .

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-boss-reveals-ambitious-plans-homegrown-hero-striker-admission-4691359

[MWHIBBIES]

You'll need to inform Gray of this . He's not a CM , Gray has stated he's a 10 with a difference. Our passing, ability to dominate games will be mainly down to our two CM's which will consist of Newell and probably Amos / NMW . I'm hoping it's not Newell and Levitt as that partnership didn't work very well last season IMO .

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-boss-reveals-ambitious-plans-homegrown-hero-striker-admission-4691359

The type of player he describes will be involved a lot, meaning he will be responsible for our possession and must be able to pass.

[B.H.F.C]

You'll need to inform Gray of this . He's not a CM , Gray has stated he's a 10 with a difference. Our passing, ability to dominate games will be mainly down to our two CM's which will consist of Newell and probably Amos / NMW . I'm hoping it's not Newell and Levitt as that partnership didn't work very well last season IMO .

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-boss-reveals-ambitious-plans-homegrown-hero-striker-admission-4691359

Gray also said he can play as a six or and eight.

He plays in the middle of the park. He’s a central midfield player.

[Paul1642]

Happy with this but it’s possibly 1 year too long.

[Donegal Hibby]

The type of player he describes will be involved a lot, meaning he will be responsible for our possession and must be able to pass.


Gray also said he can play as a six or and eight.

He plays in the middle of the park. He’s a central midfield player.

I agree he will be involved a lot though I don't think he will be responsible for our possession .Newell and the other CM will be mostly IMO .

Gray as mentioned he can play as a six or eight , he will play more often than not as a ten though that's just what I think.

As someone that's not particularly a Newell fan and like alot of others on here who have criticised our midfield in the past .I do trust Grays judgement on our midfield .

He knows them better than anyone and I still think he might get them performing better than our previous manager did due to a few different reasons.

[McD]

From last season I thought he was was excellent v celtic at ER before the dodgy pen decided the game.

Needs to be more consistent this season. Too often when the onus is on us to break teams down and we are struggling he goes into that mode of sitting deeper playing side to side without urgency. I think he needs to be the one to know when to lift it when we fall into that pattern. I do think he can be a leader though I like what SDG is doing so far.



That game against Celtic, I thought he was poor for the first 30-35 minutes, playing as a virtual third centre half he was so deep, then he started playing further forward, and was much better, and had a very good game from that point onwards. We made Celtic look ordinary, he was a big part of that. Sadly those performances aren’t anywhere near as common as the should be

[Donegal Hibby]

Elgin City v Hibs David Gray preview and Joe Newell...

https://x.com/HibernianFC/status/1811816038927147097?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

[Tambo]

Delighted with the extension, Joe has been very good overall the past two season. Crazy some rate Campbell but not Newell, each to their own though.

[Vault Boy]

Delighted. Really good player and clearly matured into a leader.

[JimBHibees]

Wee bit surprised the length of extension personally would have been looking to move on. Definitely a good player on his day. Thought he and a few others were a disgrace v Aberdeen. Personally for me some making up to do. Hope he has a great season

[Not In The Know]

:flag:
Delighted. Really good player and clearly matured into a leader.


The length of contract will be as much about keeping good people at the club. Also hes hardly ever injured.

[supermcginn]

Gray won't be playing Campbell as a playmaker in our team , he'll be in the team to chip in with some goals and as Gray has stated a box to box player .

Our two CM will be the ones hopefully dominating and getting the ball forward to Campbell/ strikers .

PAOK who we know are a good side which we beat with a midfield of Newell , NMW and Campbell . Who knows , maybe Gray can get our midfield doing better than our last two managers.

He's not good enough. Using a friendly as evidence says it all.

[Bridge hibs]

He's not good enough. Using a friendly as evidence says it all.

Of course he is good enough, its the SPL ffs not the Bundesliga 🤣

[supermcginn]

Campbell and Newell were absolutely key in the way we dominated Motherwell when Gray took over from Monty.

Campbell broke into the squad by pressing Steven Davis out of existence at Hampden. He's added goals to his game, genuine physicality, and in terms of his passing, I reckon he's cost us less from unforced errors than Levitt. He's our most advanced midfielder, expect him to give the ball away more often.

What about the rest of the games he's played the last 4 years? He's Just not great and if he is playing every week we are in a very bad place.

[supermcginn]

Of course he is good enough, its the SPL ffs not the Bundesliga 🤣

Why couldn't he get game the last 4 months under Monty? He's a poor footballer look at his passing stats they are absolutely shocking.

[Eyrie]

Newell is a good midfielder at our level and currently the best midfielder at the club so this extension is good news.

[Donegal Hibby]

He's not good enough. Using a friendly as evidence says it all.

It seems that David Gray thinks he is and even though it was a friendly it was still against a good team .

[supermcginn]

It seems that David Gray thinks he is and even though it was a friendly it was still against a good team .

Well it will be his job on the line when the midfield lets us down just like the last few years Campbell and Newell have been involved.

[Stuart93]

I’m very on the fence with newell but fully aware there’s a lot of opinions on him.

Moments of brilliance where he’s very good.

Also times when he disappears entirely and has next to no influence on a game.

Edit: rest of my post was nonsense on reflection

[Hibeewilly]

Newell is a good midfielder at our level and currently the best midfielder at the club so this extension is good news.
100%.....he's our best midfielder by far so I'm delighted he's chosen to stay. A great boost for the Club

[hibeez1875]

Congratulations Joe and well done Hibs - great news

[Bridge hibs]

Why couldn't he get game the last 4 months under Monty? He's a poor footballer look at his passing stats they are absolutely shocking.

Players form dips, teams form dips, some managers like to try their own things, you know all that though

I will trust Gray as he sees him daily

[RIP]

My favourite player these past two seasons with numerous MOM performances and a well-deserved POTY from Hibs supporters AND his fellow players in 2023.

I used to get confused why a small, determined band of posters would see fit to constantly to undermine our club captain instead of acknowledging his effort and leadership on the park.

Thankfully the club management know better. Well done Joe Newell.

However, I do have a concern in making him the pivot every game. I've watched him several times being man marked by opposition sides. In such games and without another ball playing midfielder in a three, Hibs become noticeably less effective.

He never hides, but he can't dominate games on his own.

[Onion]

Well it will be his job on the line when the midfield lets us down just like the last few years Campbell and Newell have been involved.

Really don't see where all this positivity about Newell, Campbell and the rest of Hibs midfield has come from. Perhaps the focus shifting to our awful defence has helped. There was general consensus just a couple of years ago (far from a "noisy minority")and for a long period that our midfield was the weakness in the team, and that the whole lot had to be replaced - having been instrumental in getting managers sacked. SDG playing them, and even the contract extension, doesn't prove SDG is convinced they're up to the job. They may simply be seen as the best we have at the club, at a price we're able to pay.

Newell has had some decent games for Hibs, but also a lot of shockers where he disappears. Would I be happy with JN in our midfield ? Possibly, if we had 2 or 3 stronger/better players alongside him. If he's seen as our strongest character and leader, we're all in trouble.

[NC1875]

Really don't see where all this positivity about Newell, Campbell and the rest of Hibs midfield has come from. Perhaps the focus shifting to our awful defence has helped. There was general consensus just a couple of years ago (far from a "noisy minority")and for a long period that our midfield was the weakness in the team, and that the whole lot had to be replaced - having been instrumental in getting managers sacked. SDG playing them, and even the contract extension, doesn't prove SDG is convinced they're up to the job. They may simply be seen as the best we have at the club, at a price we're able to pay.

Newell has had some decent games for Hibs, but also a lot of shockers where he disappears. Would I be happy with JN in our midfield ? Possibly, if we had 2 or 3 stronger/better players alongside him. If he's seen as our strongest character and leader, we're all in trouble.


Agree with the last part. The problem we have in midfield is that Joe is our best midfielder. 2 better players in there with him and we’ll be fine.

But if it’s a combination of JDH/Campbell/Levitt then we’re in for another bottom 6 finish.

[Heisenberg]

Agree with the last part. The problem we have in midfield is that Joe is our best midfielder. 2 better players in there with him and we’ll be fine.

But if it’s a combination of JDH/Campbell/Levitt then we’re in for another bottom 6 finish.

That’s the issue, several managers have tried and failed to make a good midfield out of these players. If SDG is going for Campbell/Newell as two out of the three he could be in trouble.

[easty]

That’s the issue, several managers have tried and failed to make a good midfield out of these players. If SDG is going for Campbell/Newell as two out of the three he could be in trouble.

Campbell won’t be a regular starter for Hibs this season. I dinnae care about the friendlies or the fact that SDG speaks well of him. SDG is being a football manager and working with what he has just now. We’re not done in the transfer market.

[JimBHibees]

Campbell won’t be a regular starter for Hibs this season. I dinnae care about the friendlies or the fact that SDG speaks well of him. SDG is being a football manager and working with what he has just now. We’re not done in the transfer market.

Just because the manager talks up a player doesn’t necessarily means he will be a regular starter. Likely more about boosting the players confidence and also hoping the fans aren’t as critical of them.

[easty]

Just because the manager talks up a player doesn’t necessarily means he will be a regular starter. Likely more about boosting the players confidence and also hoping the fans aren’t as critical of them.

Aye, that’s how I see it too. It’s good management, and I hope it’s helping Campbell.

[MWHIBBIES]

Aye, that’s how I see it too. It’s good management, and I hope it’s helping Campbell.

Josh was looking to leave Hibs in may. Probably Gray trying to butter him up a bit too, as he wants him to stay.

As you say, I don't think he'll play every week.

[Donegal Hibby]

Josh was looking to leave Hibs in may. Probably Gray trying to butter him up a bit too, as he wants him to stay.

As you say, I don't think he'll play every week.

I think Josh will start today and barring injury the other 3 league cup group games plus our first league game of the season.

[MWHIBBIES]

I think Josh will start today and barring injury the other 3 league cup group games plus our first league game of the season.

Okay.

I don't think anyone will start all 4 league cup ties. They are essentially friendlies.

[Since90+2]

Okay.

I don't think anyone will start all 4 league cup ties. They are essentially friendlies.

They are not friendlies though are they 🤣

[Exuberance1875]

Okay.

I don't think anyone will start all 4 league cup ties. They are essentially friendlies.

This is giving me PTSD from the LJ league cup performances 😂

I get your point but we cannot treat them as friendlies, backfired on us before

[DIXIHIBS]

Okay.

I don't think anyone will start all 4 league cup ties. They are essentially friendlies.

Previous managers thought that...it didn't end well. They are definitely not friendlies.

[Brightside]

Okay.

I don't think anyone will start all 4 league cup ties. They are essentially friendlies.

I wouldn’t mind the bookies giving odds on this.

[Donegal Hibby]

Okay.

I don't think anyone will start all 4 league cup ties. They are essentially friendlies.

Treated them as friendlies before and we got burnt . Don't think Gray will be messing about though your probably right in hopefully once we have secured top spot maybe we will rest a few and rotate the squad abit for the opening league game.

Be surprised if he doesn't start today though as he's the only goalscoring midfielder we have currently.

[MWHIBBIES]

They are not friendlies though are they 🤣

We've only played 3 friendlies, so we are clearly using these as games for fitness too imo. As we should, a very straight forward draw.

[MWHIBBIES]

Previous managers thought that...it didn't end well. They are definitely not friendlies.

1 manager played a 2nd string 11 in one half and we had a mare.

We've topped our group with plenty rotation in both other group stages. This is also by far the easiest group we've ever had.

[Smartie]

1 manager played a 2nd string 11 in one half and we had a mare.

We've topped our group with plenty rotation in both other group stages. This is also by far the easiest group we've ever had.

Which manager and which game are you suggesting?

If it was LJ at Falkirk - tbf, I thought he was still trying to figure out what his best XI was and learn what the players could do rather than taking the game lightly per se.

[CapitalGreen]

Which manager and which game are you suggesting?

If it was LJ at Falkirk - tbf, I thought he was still trying to figure out what his best XI was and learn what the players could do rather than taking the game lightly per se.

Campbell and Newell started in midfield that day, 2 years and a couple of managers later we are still trying to make it work.

[tamig]

Well it will be his job on the line when the midfield lets us down just like the last few years Campbell and Newell have been involved.

I’m no big fan of Campbell. But if SDG thinks he can get a tune out of him and sees him as being a main man this season, I trust that he knows what he’s doing. As you say, he’ll live or die by his decisions. I just don’t think people should reflect back to the past and assume it’ll be more of the same. Let’s wait and see, get behind the team in this new era, and we might be pleasantly surprised.

[MWHIBBIES]

Which manager and which game are you suggesting?

If it was LJ at Falkirk - tbf, I thought he was still trying to figure out what his best XI was and learn what the players could do rather than taking the game lightly per se.

Indeed, you're probably right.

[tamig]

We've only played 3 friendlies, so we are clearly using these as games for fitness too imo. As we should, a very straight forward draw.

Thankfully the new manager doesn’t seem to share your complacency about the League Cup.

[MWHIBBIES]

Thankfully the new manager doesn’t seem to share your complacency about the League Cup.

It's not complacency. He will use his entire squad and build fitness. If you think we're playing our strongest 11 in every match, you are wrong.

[Eyrie]

Which manager and which game are you suggesting?

If it was LJ at Falkirk - tbf, I thought he was still trying to figure out what his best XI was and learn what the players could do rather than taking the game lightly per se.

Playing a rookie keeper behind two rookie centre halves was taking it lightly.

[TrinityHFC]

Which manager and which game are you suggesting?

If it was LJ at Falkirk - tbf, I thought he was still trying to figure out what his best XI was and learn what the players could do rather than taking the game lightly per se.

Exactly. We had a poor group to choose from, the players were just back and LJ didn’t ever say he was treating it just like a pre season game. He was explaining that it was a difficult balance because it was essentially in the usual pre season period.

[Exuberance1875]

Plenty posts on here have aged absolutely fantastically

[Scottie]

Captain invisible :aok:

[JohnM1875]

Captain invisible :aok:

Giving the Invisible man a bad name.

[Joe6-2]

Reading back can’t believe they are talking about this imposter

[Scottie]

Giving the Invisible man a bad name.
Sorry John ‘Captain naewhere’ :aok:

[GreenCastle]

We will never progress with Newell as captain or a starter.

Just release him from his contract - the thought of him being in the team for next 2 years is a shambles.

[HH81]

Booked.

[theonlywayisup]

Abysmal Captain

[SteveHFC]

Booked.

Should be the first player who should get his contract removed.

[lugz]

Now suspended for the next game, the cowards couldn't face the potential heat he'll receive next week. Ahh well plenty time for a bevvy then.

[Nicho87]

Modern day Liam Craig

[Aldo]

Joe Newell, Hibernian Captain puts in his standard gutless performance.

Get this ****ing imposter out of the club.

[blackpoolhibs]

Captain Tom Moore would be better than that show pony.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Captain Tom Moore would be better than that show pony.

We’d maybe even get a swimming pool in hospitality


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[Nicho87]

2 year contract extention Monday knowing this club

[CapitalGreen]

Now suspended for the next game, the cowards couldn't face the potential heat he'll receive next week. Ahh well plenty time for a bevvy then.

Our best performances this season have came when he was unavailable so that’s a positive.

[.Sean.]

Captains performance tonight

[lugz]

Our best performances this season have came when he was unavailable so that’s a positive.

We won't but if we were to win then that's the biggest sign that he should never be near the team again. I know he's just signed a new contract but we need to do all we can to bin him in January.

[Pretty Boy]

He's a coward.

He might get the club but maybe that's the problem .

[Exuberance1875]

Modern day Liam Craig

Harsh on Liam Craig tbh

[CapitalGreen]

Modern day Liam Craig

Liam Craig had a much more impressive career than Newell.

[Bridge hibs]

Captains performance tonight

It was his best pass all night

[supermcginn]

Him being captain just sums up the whole club. Cannot wait to see him and the rest of them get to ****

[WhileTheChief..]

Joe Newell, Hibernian Captain puts in his standard gutless performance.

Get this ****ing imposter out of the club.

Yup. We've been saying it for years.

Shows how crap our previous managers have been when none of them did anything to fix our midfield. It's been so damn obvious what the problem is yet no-one is addressing it.

Nothing will change in January.

[PH91]

He's a coward.

In what way?

[lugz]

In what way?

Do you really want to go there?

[Hibs4185]

He's a coward.

He might get the club but maybe that's the problem .

He doesn’t get the club. He ‘gets’ the inflated salary for his ability, living in Edinburgh and the best golf courses.

To say he gets the club is a farce. He gets the lifestyle and it shows in his performances

[Onceinawhile]

In what way?

Hide and seek champion as soon as the chips are down.

[Aldo]

Yup. We've been saying it for years.

Shows how crap our previous managers have been when none of them did anything to fix our midfield. It's been so damn obvious what the problem is yet no-one is addressing it.

Nothing will change in January.

Of course we have but there are some on here who constantly said he was the best.

Just think though, another 3 years.
I think in his 250 odd appearances I can count on one hand where he’s driven the team forward etc and led by example.

[The Modfather]

Is “least of our problems” still the current defence for Newell or has even that now ran its course?

O̶u̶r̶ b̶e̶s̶t̶ m̶i̶d̶f̶i̶e̶l̶d̶e̶r̶
W̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ w̶a̶l̶k̶ i̶n̶t̶o̶ a̶l̶l̶ n̶o̶n̶ O̶l̶d̶ F̶i̶r̶m̶ t̶e̶a̶m̶s̶
S̶t̶a̶t̶i̶s̶t̶i̶c̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ h̶e̶ h̶a̶d̶ a̶ g̶o̶o̶d̶ g̶a̶m̶e̶
H̶e̶ h̶a̶d̶ x̶ n̶u̶m̶b̶e̶r̶ o̶f̶ a̶s̶s̶i̶s̶t̶s̶ l̶a̶s̶t̶ s̶e̶a̶s̶o̶n̶
P̶l̶a̶y̶i̶n̶g̶ m̶i̶d̶f̶i̶e̶l̶d̶ o̶n̶ h̶i̶s̶ o̶w̶n̶
T̶h̶e̶ l̶e̶a̶s̶t̶ o̶f̶ o̶u̶r̶ p̶r̶o̶b̶l̶e̶m̶s̶

[Pretty Boy]

In what way?

Use your eyes.

Mr safe option every time. Mr find a space where he won't have to receive the ball

He has about as much business being captain of Hibs as Gary Mackay does.

[eastmainsmsh]

Hopefully offloaded in January another on a cushy number for being crap

[McD]

He's a coward.

He might get the club but maybe that's the problem .



Aye, he gets the club - the place where he’s paid handsomely to saunter about, not asked to put in much effort, play some golf, certainly not to perform

[J-C]

Don't worry Joe, you'll have enough time for a good few pints when you get back.

[WhileTheChief..]

Of course we have but there are some on here who constantly said he was the best.

Just think though, another 3 years.
I think in his 250 odd appearances I can count on one hand where he’s driven the team forward etc and led by example.

You can extend that to many of the topics of the last few years.

Even today's match day thread had posters moaning about this place being depressing. Wtf do they expect when there's nowt positive to talk about!!

[Hibs4185]

Where’s his biggest supporter MWHIBEES?

[1875M]

Oh choices, which Newell thread to comment on… worst ‘captain’ of Hibs I think ever seen, and a bang average footballer who doesn’t really do anything well. Sums up Hibs.

[PH91]

Use your eyes.

Mr safe option every time. Mr find a space where he won't have to receive the ball

He has about as much business being captain of Hibs as Gary Mackay does.

As I thought. Total nonsense.

[Aldo]

You can extend that to many of the topics of the last few years.

Even today's match day thread had posters moaning about this place being depressing. Wtf do they expect when there's nowt positive to talk about!!

Exactly.

[Pretty Boy]

As I thought. Total nonsense.

Aye that's right. Nonsense.

Super Joe is the least of our problems. A perennial bottom 6 player but it's not him. He's just unfortunate to play in a ***** team rather than being a part of one. Or rather part of several.

[lugz]

As I thought. Total nonsense.

You're either Joe burner account or you personally know him. That's the only 2 reasons anyone would attempt to stick up for him.

He goes hiding as soon as the game gets tough
He'll get his regular booking to show he cares

[Hibernian Verse]

Where’s his biggest supporter MWHIBEES?

He’s not back on the team bus yet give him 10 mins

[SickBoy32]

🍻

[Itsnoteasy]

SPFL hide & seek champion 2024/2025. And we say they vote manager of the year to early.

[Scottie]

He’s not back on the team bus yet give him 10 mins
:faf::faf:

[Fergos]

You're either Joe burner account or you personally know him. That's the only 2 reasons anyone would attempt to stick up for him.

He goes hiding as soon as the game gets tough
He'll get his regular booking to show he cares

Agreed. He was being run around all game by the Dundee midfielders. Pathetic.

[Unseen work]

I’m normally a fan of his

But I couldn’t tell you one thing he done today

He’s at his best when he plays with aggression and intensity, for some reason he’s rarely showing it

[blackpoolhibs]

Joe Newell is apparently our best midfielder, let that sink in for a moment, and people wonder why we are bottom of the league?:faf:

[Brooster]

Absolutely sick of seeing this hide and seek champion in our midfield.

[blackpoolhibs]

Absolutely sick of seeing this hide and seek champion in our midfield.

He strolls around taking the easy option ALL the time, you can name all his good games on one hand.

Tho whole midfield are sheite, Triantis WTF, Campbell is a championship player at best, Levitt pish, we as a midfield do nothing to defend the back 4, or support the front men.

We need major surgery in January just to stay up.:rolleyes:

[Ribs1875]

He strolls around taking the easy option ALL the time, you can name all his good games on one hand.

Tho whole midfield are sheite, Triantis WTF, Campbell is a championship player at best, Levitt pish, we as a midfield do nothing to defend the back 4, or support the front men.

We need major surgery in January just to stay up.:rolleyes:

This current lot would get us relegated from the championship.

[HTD1875]

Learning from the best in Liam Craig.

Running around looking busy without ever actually doing anything to affect the game.

[B.H.F.C]

Get him so far to ****. Joe Newell being club captain is everything that is wrong with this club. We have progressively got worse and worse with him central to it all yet his position and influence grows.

The contract and captaincy in the summer was a joke and the beginning of the end for Gray. He’s seen the impact he’s had first hand but still decided to make him the main man. Ridiculous.

[Jones28]

Hooked again, must be the most consistently subbed off captain in the league.

Sliced a good chance wide as well.

[Coco Bryce]

He's just an Average Joe.

[Jones28]

I didn’t seen him sling his armband away, who picked it up?

[CapitalGreen]

I didn’t seen him sling his armband away, who picked it up?

Rocky, he threw it to him and He caught it though it wasn’t thrown away.

[Hiber-nation]

As poor a captain as Liam Craig was in 2014. Hiding.

[THESHIP]

The fans have a lot to answer for when it comes to Joe Newell being offered a new deal and captaincy. Despite his consistently underwhelming performances on the pitch, a large portion of the fanbase seemed absolutely delighted by the decision. While it's true that fans don't make the decisions at the top, the board will always be looking for ways to appease us, believing that what the supporters want will ultimately drive success. This creates a dangerous loop, where the board makes decisions based on what they think will keep fans happy, even if it doesn't align with the reality of what's best for the team.

At the end of the day, Joe Newell has and never will be good enough for Hibernian Football Club.

[JimBHibees]

Get him so far to ****. Joe Newell being club captain is everything that is wrong with this club. We have progressively got worse and worse with him central to it all yet his position and influence grows.

The contract and captaincy in the summer was a joke and the beginning of the end for Gray. He’s seen the impact he’s had first hand but still decided to make him the main man. Ridiculous.

Yep he sums up perfectly the complete malaise in the club. Would never play for the club again for me

How many managers has he seen off

[jeffers]

When he was good he was good, the debate was how often that happened. For me it was nowhere near enough. This season he has been in the main absolutely awful. He sums up everything that is wrong with the club, the new deal and him being deemed the best option as club captain.

[JimBHibees]

Absolutely sick of seeing this hide and seek champion in our midfield.

Exactly

[JimBHibees]

When he was good he was good, the debate was how often that happened. For me it was nowhere near enough. This season he has been in the main absolutely awful. He sums up everything that is wrong with the club, the new deal and him being deemed the best option as club captain.

Yes

[green day]

The fans have a lot to answer for when it comes to Joe Newell being offered a new deal and captaincy.

It's the fans fault 😂

[Exuberance1875]

It's the fans fault 😂

To be fair people happy clapped him enough through his distinctly below average Hibs career, the post does mention that fans don’t make the final decision but he should have been called out long before this.

[CyberSauzee]

He's just an Average Joe.

Perfect summary.

No idea why he was given an extension to 2027. Presumably the head wine waiter was still in charge of recruitment at the time.

[davym7062]

hes a imposter,,,,, **** at everyting

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

hes a imposter,,,,, **** at everyting

You’re on a mission to call every single player ***** on their own dedicated thread tonight and I’m absolutely here for it man. They’re all absolutely pish and I’m fed up now.


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[truehibernian]

If we ever employ a good manager, he’ll see it, and he’ll be gone.

It’s the getting a good manager with decent eyesight that’s the problem 😂 Joe Newell really isn’t a good professional footballer- anyone that picks him in a side needs therapy.

[Ribs1875]

Surely Kenneh or Moriah-Welsh have to come good lol

[davym7062]

You’re on a mission to call every single player ***** on their own dedicated thread tonight and I’m absolutely here for it man. They’re all absolutely pish and I’m fed up now.


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im sick off it mate.. thousands of pounds a week for that???? *** the lot lot of them

[SteveHFC]

Surely Kenneh or Moriah-Welsh have to come good lol

Where the **** is Amos?

Levitt who 2 weeks ago when he came on was great yet doesn’t get a start tonight?

[Unseen work]

Surely Kenneh or Moriah-Welsh have to come good lol

NMW is what I thought looked good about Hibs in the cup.

Full of energy and win the ball back high up the back with his pressing

Our midfield never got close to theirs today

[Ozyhibby]

Rocky, he threw it to him and He caught it though it wasn’t thrown away.

Lucky it was Ricky and not bursic.


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[HoboHarry]

Lucky it was Ricky and not bursic.


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Comedy gold. Hilarious. Bravo.

[Stokesy's on fire]

I might be wrong here but not long ago Joe Newell was receiving huge praise all of a sudden the fans have turned on him. Is his time at hibs pretty much over? The fans seem done with him but the same can be said about every single player in the team.

[Pretty Boy]

I might be wrong here but not long ago Joe Newell was receiving huge praise all of a sudden the fans have turned on him. Is his time at hibs pretty much over? The fans seem done with him but the same can be said about every single player in the team.

We've got plenty more of Joe to look forward to.

That contract extension made sure of that. He'll be ably assisted by Josh Campbell during much of that period thanks to his long term contract as well.

If that doesn't form the basis of a ST marketing campaign then I don't know what does. I'm excited just thinking about it.

[CapitalGreen]

He’s been Hibs captain for 1 league victory in 8 months.

[Coco Bryce]

He’s been Hibs captain for 1 league victory in 8 months.

Wow! That's a brutal stat!

[NC1875]

I might be wrong here but not long ago Joe Newell was receiving huge praise all of a sudden the fans have turned on him. Is his time at hibs pretty much over? The fans seem done with him but the same can be said about every single player in the team.

Joe Newell gets huge praise from 2 people on here. Everyone else can see him for the ***** footballer that he is.

His interview after the game is laughable.

He says he’s embarassed, I’d be embarrassed if I called myself a captain and footballer as well Joe.

Not one mention of the fans either. And he’s captain. Gray should be sacked for the new contract and captaincy alone.

[BroxburnHibee]

Who else could Gray have given the captaincy to?

There's no one in that squad worthy of it. We needed to sign one.

Not defending Newell by the way. No apology to the fans in his interview last night. No sign of leadership after the sending off. Hide and Seek champ comment is spot on.

[.Sean.]

Seriously how bad must Amos be if he can’t even get on the bench

[Itsnoteasy]

Where the **** is Amos?

Levitt who 2 weeks ago when he came on was great yet doesn’t get a start tonight?

He was above average. He certainly wasn't great.