October derby

[B.H.F.C]

That works if you want to equate supporting your Club with being a Tesco customer. I’d like to think the two things are miles apart.

Of course they. Going to Tesco (other supermarkets are available) is essential whereas supporting your club isn’t in the grand scheme of things (although it feels like it is). I think that comparison actually strengthens the reasoning for loyalty to be rewarded.

[matty_f]

There are loyalty and reward schemes in loads of industries. The more you use certain things, do certain things or spend on certain things and you get a wee bit something back for it.

The vast majority of those schemes reward you when you spend your money on the business, rather than with a rival.

You’re not getting extra Clubcard points because you’ve done Morrisons away and Spar on a wet Tuesday night.

[jeffers]

Not an obligation, but if someone has devoted their time to following the team play every week, they don't deserve to be rewarded?

This place is mad, every time we play the mutants, the same guff appears...... Doubt there will be the same baloney for Dingwall

I’m in total agreement. Fans who go to all the away games absolutely should get priority over those who don’t. I say that as a season ticket holder who attends some away games and missed out on a ticket today. Another poster touched on it but if you are going to use the argument that these fans shouldn’t be rewarded just because they have the means to attend the games over others then we shouldn’t reward season ticket holders over non season ticket holders just because they have the means to purchase one. Guys like you and BHFC amongst others are more dedicated than guys like me, I don’t have a problem in saying that.

[B.H.F.C]

The vast majority of those schemes reward you when you spend your money on the business, rather than with a rival.

Your not getting extra Clubcard points because you’ve done Morrisons away and Spar on a wet Tuesday night.

Knew that would come back but, as someone else with the opposite view to me pointed out, supporting your team isn’t like every other business. The club get plenty benefit from the away support. The team on the park, the content that goes out on social media, the engagement. I even gave them £57 for a top because I was going to Luzern that I probably wouldn’t have spent had I not been. It’s not all about where the money for the ticket is going.

[Itsnoteasy]

Not an obligation, but if someone has devoted their time to following the team play every week, they don't deserve to be rewarded?

This place is mad, every time we play the mutants, the same guff appears...... Doubt there will be the same baloney for Dingwall

We're the only so called big club that don't use a loyalty point system, even the Hertz can get that bit right.

[PHeffernan]

The vast majority of those schemes reward you when you spend your money on the business, rather than with a rival.

Your not getting extra Clubcard points because you’ve done Morrisons away and Spar on a wet Tuesday night.


:not worth:faf:

[LewysGot2]

It’s already happening mate - £50 to create a two tier system. There’s value in it and demand - would be silly not to increase the price.

Most members paid £30.

:wink:

[Since90+2]

The vast majority of those schemes reward you when you spend your money on the business, rather than with a rival.

Your not getting extra Clubcard points because you’ve done Morrisons away and Spar on a wet Tuesday night.

That did make me laugh.

[CapitalGreen]

Your right. It's part of the package though and I think if it was removed ST sales would drop. Can you imagine how ticketmaster would cope with more folk online ? :greengrin A two tiered ST is really what people want with loyalty points . I'm not sure I'd bother, I'd pay as I go personally.

Hearts have had loyalty points for years and they have a season ticket waiting list.

[Brooster]

I think loyalty points are the way forward. Villa away and tynie are perfect examples of day trippers appearing at the expense of regulars. You'll see people who don't even go to Easter Road regularly.

Season ticket holders are obviously buying tickets to pass on to folk who fancy attending one or two games a year.

I'd also be interested to know how many comps Hibs hold back to dish out to family and friends. This also has an impact on the number of tickets available to regulars.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Most members paid £30.

:wink:

Really? We’re giving it away, no wonder folk paid that and don’t bother going to all the games. Could make it 5 or 10 times that and it would still sell out.

[Since90+2]

Find the use of day trippers when describing other Hibs fans a bit needless.

Some people have other commitments like family, work ect that doesn't allow them to get to more games. The same people complain that we don't sell out games at Hampden but at the same time have digs at "day trippers".

It's needlessly provocative.

[Trinity Hibee]

Find the use of day trippers when describing other Hibs fans a bit needless.

Some people have other commitments like family, work ect that doesn't allow them to get to more games. The same people complain that we don't sell out games at Hampden but at the same time have digs at "day trippers".

It's needlessly provocative.

Good point. Every club has fans who turn up for bigger games. When I was younger I played boys club football so couldn’t get to games every week. There will be plenty others in that position along with parents who go to watch their kid instead of going to Hibs games.

[Brooster]

Find the use of day trippers when describing other Hibs fans a bit needless.

Some people have other commitments like family, work ect that doesn't allow them to get to more games. The same people complain that we don't sell out games at Hampden but at the same time have digs at "day trippers".

It's needlessly provocative.

Needlessly provocative haha, you alright petal?

[Brooster]

Good point. Every club has fans who turn up for bigger games. When I was younger I played boys club football so couldn’t get to games every week. There will be plenty others in that position along with parents who go to watch their kid instead of going to Hibs games.

Fair point. Fans who can't make it to Ross County or Kilmarnock (or Easter Road for that matter) but suddenly find that they have some free time to go to Hampden or Tynie......what would you call them? They're daytrippers are they not?

[Trinity Hibee]

Fair point. Fans who can't make it to Ross County or Kilmarnock (or Easter Road for that matter) but suddenly find that they have some free time to go to Hampden or Tynie......what would you call them? They're daytrippers are they not?

Or you could call them part timers? Glory hunters? Guess there’s plenty they could be called.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Find the use of day trippers when describing other Hibs fans a bit needless.

Some people have other commitments like family, work ect that doesn't allow them to get to more games. The same people complain that we don't sell out games at Hampden but at the same time have digs at "day trippers".

It's needlessly provocative.

Same goes for the uberfan nonsense. Imagine wanting to see every game the club plays in. That's apparently lucky, or maybe those that do, prioritise Hibs over other things?

But some reckon that if you go to 100% of games, you don't deserve priority over some who go to 20 or 30%.

That's a loyalty type scheme, however, not sure how this can be implemented, when most clubs are now selling direct. Difficult to manage.

Doesn't matter what's in place, those without the correct points, or dont meet criteria etc will still complain. Nature of the beast

[Hermit Crab]

Some nonsense being posted on this thread. Charge fans £250-£500 to be a member of Hibs First? Laughable.

ST holders should absolutely get priority over non ST ticket holders who don't go to games. It's the same arguments every time Hearts. tickets go on sale. As usual this will be a some peoples first and only away game.

Funny how everyone was able to make Villa away on the Thursday night but Aberdeen away on the Sunday was off limits for many. There will be loads of 'day trippers' at this game, that's guaranteed.

Hearts away brings out the best and worst in our support, someone gets a ticket and everything is fine, someone doesn't and the system is flawed and Hibs First and ST holders all of a sudden shouldn't get priority etc etc.

Everyone who is complaining about not getting a ticket had the chance to sign up to Hibs First but chose not to.

I still think points system should be brought back though

[Since90+2]

Needlessly provocative haha, you alright petal?

You seem upset. Have a wee cup of tea, the sun is shining.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Some nonsense being posted on this thread. Charge fans £250-£500 to be a member of Hibs First? Laughable.

ST holders should absolutely get priority over non ST ticket holders who don't go to games. It's the same arguments every time Hearts. tickets go on sale. As usual this will be a some peoples first and only away game.

Funny how everyone was able to make Villa away on the Thursday night but Aberdeen away on the Sunday was off limits for many. There will be loads of 'day trippers' at this game, that's guaranteed.

Hearts away brings out the best and worst in our support, someone gets a ticket and everything is fine, someone doesn't and the system is flawed and Hibs First and ST holders all of a sudden shouldn't get priority etc etc.

Everyone who is complaining about not getting a ticket had the chance to sign up to Hibs First but chose not to.

I still think points system should be brought back though

It’s not nonsense - they’ve already created a two tier system so if that’s what everyone at the club and those in it are happy with - maximise it. Make sure they’re making plenty on it.

Otherwise I agree put a points system in.

[nonshinyfinish]

Find the use of day trippers when describing other Hibs fans a bit needless.

Some people have other commitments like family, work ect that doesn't allow them to get to more games. The same people complain that we don't sell out games at Hampden but at the same time have digs at "day trippers".

It's needlessly provocative.

Whatever you want to call them* I think there's a key difference between occasional fans buying tickets for Tynecastle and the same fans buying tickets for Hampden. For Hampden games, there are enough tickets that all possible priority groups can be taken care of and still have thousands left for a general sale. A season-ticket holder is never going to miss out.


*I am a day tripper and I'm ok with that label. Although realistically it's a two or three day trip because of the distance.

[Hermit Crab]

It’s not nonsense - they’ve already created a two tier system so if that’s what everyone at the club and those in it are happy with - maximise it. Make sure they’re making plenty on it.

Otherwise I agree put a points system in.


You want Hibs to charge fans up to £500 just to get priority for a few away games a season? Hearts, Celtic and Rangers away plus the potential of a cup game with a small away allocation. I bet not a single current member of Hibs First would be willing to fork out that on top of a ST and it would be unwise for Hibs to even think about doing it. Fans are not cash cows and should not be treated as such.

[blackpoolhibs]

Same goes for the uberfan nonsense. Imagine wanting to see every game the club plays in. That's apparently lucky, or maybe those that do, prioritise Hibs over other things?

But some reckon that if you go to 100% of games, you don't deserve priority over some who go to 20 or 30%.

That's a loyalty type scheme, however, not sure how this can be implemented, when most clubs are now selling direct. Difficult to manage.

Doesn't matter what's in place, those without the correct points, or dont meet criteria etc will still complain. Nature of the beast

If you go to 100% of the games, why would you need a loyalty system? I'd hand my season ticket back if it was diluted anymore.

[Danderhall Hibs]

You want Hibs to charge fans up to £500 just to get priority for a few away games a season? Hearts, Celtic and Rangers away plus the potential of a cup game with a small away allocation. I bet not a single current member of Hibs First would be willing to fork out that on top of a ST and it would be unwise for Hibs to even think about doing it. Fans are not cash cows and should not be treated as such.

Looks like a missed opportunity- folk would still sign up for it. It’s proven folk are willing to be a cash cow and pay for the privilege, although it was kind of positioned as to allow for tickets for all games initially.

If it’s too expensive or not of value you don’t have to opt in though and would still be able to try and get tickets through the ST process. It’s not compulsory.

[Hermit Crab]

Looks like a missed opportunity- folk would still sign up for it. It’s proven folk are willing to be a cash cow and pay for the privilege, although it was kind of positioned as to allow for tickets for all games initially.

If it’s too expensive or not of value you don’t have to opt in though and would still be able to try and get tickets through the ST process. It’s not compulsory.


You're at the wind up. Would anyone be willing to spend £900 on a ST and a Hibs First membership? I doubt it.

[nonshinyfinish]

You're at the wind up.

Agreed.

I think they're hammering this as a roundabout argument in favour of loyalty points.

[matty_f]

Fair point. Fans who can't make it to Ross County or Kilmarnock (or Easter Road for that matter) but suddenly find that they have some free time to go to Hampden or Tynie......what would you call them? They're daytrippers are they not?

Supporters.

[matty_f]

Find the use of day trippers when describing other Hibs fans a bit needless.

Some people have other commitments like family, work ect that doesn't allow them to get to more games. The same people complain that we don't sell out games at Hampden but at the same time have digs at "day trippers".

It's needlessly provocative.

Correct.

[BoomtownHibees]

Seems like folk who missed out on Tynie tickets are upset they didn’t join Hibs First when it was available

[Hermit Crab]

Seems like folk who missed out on Tynie tickets are upset they didn’t join Hibs First when it was available


This is what it boils down to. :agree:

[Hermit Crab]

Find the use of day trippers when describing other Hibs fans a bit needless.

Some people have other commitments like family, work ect that doesn't allow them to get to more games. The same people complain that we don't sell out games at Hampden but at the same time have digs at "day trippers".

It's needlessly provocative.


They do and I understand that but everyone was able to take a 1-2 days off work plus take their kids out of school to go to Birmingham though.

[matty_f]

Seems like folk who missed out on Tynie tickets are upset they didn’t join Hibs First when it was available

I’m not. I’m not upset i missed out on tickets either, it is what it is. Would have been nice to go but the reality is that there is more demand than there is tickets and so some folk were going to miss out. This time it’s me. As a grown up, I’m fine with that. I’ll try again next time.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Seems like folk who missed out on Tynie tickets are upset they didn’t join Hibs First when it was available

Take me out of that mate - I couldn’t get one as don’t have a ST this year.

If Hibs First is a good idea and demand is there - up the cost. It’s what we do with everything else.

[Danderhall Hibs]

You're at the wind up. Would be willing to spend £900 on a ST and a Hibs First membership? I doubt it.

I wouldn’t. Some would though and if they can then good luck to them. It’s not compulsory though.

[Danderhall Hibs]

They do and I understand that but everyone was able to take a 1-2 days off work plus take their kids out of school to go to Birmingham though.

I don’t think everyone went to Birmingham? But I suppose that did maybe had to make a priority call based on money etc.

[matty_f]

They do and I understand that but everyone was able to take a 1-2 days off work plus take their kids out of school to go to Birmingham though.

I couldn’t. I’d have loved to have been there - and Switzerland, and Andorra. And yes, i did get to Aberdeen and to Motherwell etc but not near every away game.

[SickBoy32]

Seems like folk who missed out on Tynie tickets are upset they didn’t join Hibs First when it was available

Ehhh naw. I was fortunate yesterday and managed to get a ticket, as I did for both Luzern and Villa away

Wholeheartedly disagree with the principle of paying for priority though (ala Hibs First), priority should come from match attendance only

These arguments will continue though until BK sees sense and reintroduces loyalty points, undoubtedly the fairest way to distribute tickets

[Brightside]

They do and I understand that but everyone was able to take a 1-2 days off work plus take their kids out of school to go to Birmingham though.

I know loads of people who didn't go to Birmingham. I reckon people with Albion Bar tickets should get first dibs on away tickets actually. More money given direct to the club.

[green day]

Seems like folk who missed out on Tynie tickets are upset they didn’t join Hibs First when it was available

I dont think thats fair (I missed out for the first time in years, thems the breaks).

The issue (mentioned upthread) with the HF membership is that it is necessarily limited numbers ( e.g. by the number of tickets we may get at Ibrox/Parkhead so the club cant make it open ended ).

Hence its populated largely by those who go to most away games.

I would suggest that if lots of "tynecastle only" fans joined HF at the expense of those who travel to Dingwall, Kilmarnock etc then there would be wailing on an epic scale.

I think that most sensible people know that loyalty points are the way to go (always have been tbf) but I cant see the club doing that.

[mvteng]

You're at the wind up. Would anyone be willing to spend £900 on a ST and a Hibs First membership? I doubt it.

Absolutely they would. The guy with the seat next to us only goes to maybe 5-6 home games a year maximum. To him the current season ticket cost is buttons. He's exactly the type of guy who has money to burn and who would lap up that type of thing

[Carheenlea]

If our travelling support was selling out away allocations every time I would get some of the arguments.

I’d say there is a pool of between 2-3000 pretty regular away day travellers. Within that group would be smaller number who travel to every single one.

Until that number of regular away supporters increases dramatically I just don’t see how there can be any argument why that pool of supporters should not be accommodated for the premier away games of the season within a stand that can house considerably more than the numbers of that group? What am I missing here?

[Since90+2]

I don't think it will be anything like £500, that's just mental. Wouldn't rule out something like £150/£200 though.

[Billy Whizz]

I don't think it will be anything like £500, that's just mental. Wouldn't rule out something like £150/£200 though.

Don’t give Ben ideas

[Hermit Crab]

I don't think it will be anything like £500, that's just mental. Wouldn't rule out something like £150/£200 though.


Even that would see severe backlash from the fans, for that price I'd want all the away tickets included.

[Carheenlea]

I don't think it will be anything like £500, that's just mental. Wouldn't rule out something like £150/£200 though.

When we’re coming up with different ideas and schemes each season, it’s basically an admission that we haven’t come up with a better system than the loyalty points that the club disbanded in the first place.

Yes, it had its flaws, but less flaws than all the other plans that were manufactured for its replacement.

[The Modfather]

They do and I understand that but everyone was able to take a 1-2 days off work plus take their kids out of school to go to Birmingham though.

You don’t think there’s any difference between a game away to Villa in Europe and a bog standard trip to Aberdeen. Why people might make more effort to take time off and find the money to go to Birmingham for a European game than a league game at Aberdeen we could play up to 3 times each season?

[Since90+2]

You don’t think there’s any difference between a game away to Villa in Europe and a bog standard trip to Aberdeen. Why people might make more effort to take time off and find the money to go to Birmingham for a European game than a league game at Aberdeen we could play up to 3 times each season?

Let's stop with the sensible chat please.

[Baldy Foghorn]

If you go to 100% of the games, why would you need a loyalty system? I'd hand my season ticket back if it was diluted anymore.

Some don't think there should be any schemes in place, whether loyalty points, AST or Hibs First. If not it would be a free for all. I'm saying that if you go every week you should be looked after. Not rocket science.

[Itsnoteasy]

Some don't think there should be any schemes in place, whether loyalty points, AST or Hibs First. If not it would be a free for all. I'm saying that if you go every week you should be looked after. Not rocket science.

Just copy & paste the whole thread for the next visit to Tiny. Save yourself a lot of time trying to justify yourself.

[Itsnoteasy]

I’m not. I’m not upset i missed out on tickets either, it is what it is. Would have been nice to go but the reality is that there is more demand than there is tickets and so some folk were going to miss out. This time it’s me. As a grown up, I’m fine with that. I’ll try again next time.

Some even prefer to do The Crystal Maze style Escape Rooms on a Saturday when Hibs are playing.

[GreenCastle]

Loyalty scheme / points doesn’t stop non season ticket holders getting hold of tickets.

Even if loyalty points are introduced nothing stops some with the points giving their ticket to someone else.

Bit like many who share a ST and give others their ST for games. Home derbies someone can’t make it then will pass on their ST to someone else I would imagine.

I guess Hibs first stops that ? Unless these fans pass on tickets ?

[blackpoolhibs]

Some don't think there should be any schemes in place, whether loyalty points, AST or Hibs First. If not it would be a free for all. I'm saying that if you go every week you should be looked after. Not rocket science.

Are those who go every week not looked after by the AST now?

[LaMotta]

If our travelling support was selling out away allocations every time I would get some of the arguments.

I’d say there is a pool of between 2-3000 pretty regular away day travellers. Within that group would be smaller number who travel to every single one.

Until that number of regular away supporters increases dramatically I just don’t see how there can be any argument why that pool of supporters should not be accommodated for the premier away games of the season within a stand that can house considerably more than the numbers of that group? What am I missing here?

:agree::agree::agree:

Also not fully on board with people making out that the season ticket would be devalued/worthless if loyalty points were brought back. The primary purpose of the season ticket is to secure a seat of your choice at Easter Road every week. Buying one would also mean you would get loyalty points, and if done sensibly a loyalty scheme would recognise previous seasons purchases to incentivise repeat season ticket purchases.


The argument that those who travel away most weeks shouldn't get priority for popular fixtures just doesnt stack up for me. Look at the way Scotland Supporters Club works with loyalty points. Are people really saying fans that have travelled to Cyprus, Georgia, Spain, France away etc should only have the same chance of a ticket for Germany next year as any Scotland Supporters Club member who hasn't been to a single away game??

[OstKurve Hibs]

Loyalty scheme / points doesn’t stop non season ticket holders getting hold of tickets.

Even if loyalty points are introduced nothing stops some with the points giving their ticket to someone else.

Bit like many who share a ST and give others their ST for games. Home derbies someone can’t make it then will pass on their ST to someone else I would imagine.

I guess Hibs first stops that ? Unless these fans pass on tickets ?

It won't stop folk giving away tickets if they want to that, but it gives fans who go away m9st weeks a chance to build up points and be in a position to basically guarantee a ticket for away derby's.
As a good few previous posters have said, the current system is garbage because it gives derby day trippers as good a chance as the rest of us who do go away most weeks to get a ticket when it shouldn't.

[Gloucester Hibs]

Also not fully on board with people making out that the season ticket would be devalued/worthless if loyalty points were brought back.

Not sure about on here but there were definitely ST holders on the Bounce threatening to not renew if they were excluded from the chance to purchase PBS tickets. Selfish perhaps but until we have a situation where we have a complete ST "sell out" at ER with waiting list in place not sure they can be ignored?

[LaMotta]

Not sure about on here but there were definitely ST holders on the Bounce threatening to not renew if they were excluded from the chance to purchase PBS tickets. Selfish perhaps but until we have a situation where we have a complete ST "sell out" at ER with waiting list in place not sure they can be ignored?

Yeh I think I've seen it on here too. They wouldn't be fully excluded from getting Tynecastle tickets though. They would still have a chance.

And surely no one is currently buying a season ticket just so they can try and get a 25% chance of a ticket twice a season at a ground we rarely win at? People saying they wouldn't renew are at it.

Part of the issue is how smalltime a stadium Tynecastle is. I think we now get only 3000 tickets? And we give them about 3900 from memory.

[Gmack7]

I take it the game is definitely a 3pm KO?
Sorry for going of the topic if loyalty points/AST/ HIBS FIRST etc

[Hibs90]

Seriously. Other clubs have point schemes that run perfectly well. Hearts are actually a decent example of this.

1 point per home league game (if you buy a ST, you’re given the equivalent number of points per home games that year (18/19?)
1 point per home cup game (as long as ticket is activated at turnstile)

Stagger sales for high demand games.
It’s not difficult.

[MartinfaePorty]

I take it the game is definitely a 3pm KO?
Sorry for going of the topic if loyalty points/AST/ HIBS FIRST etc

Yes

[LaMotta]

I take it the game is definitely a 3pm KO?
Sorry for going of the topic if loyalty points/AST/ HIBS FIRST etc


Yes

Hibs Ticket office told me this morning it's too late for Hearts to change it now, which is good.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Even that would see severe backlash from the fans, for that price I'd want all the away tickets included.

The noise would die down. Just need to find the balance. Maybe up to £150 weeks mutually as suggested then see where it goes after that.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Some even prefer to do The Crystal Maze style Escape Rooms on a Saturday when Hibs are playing.

No one prefers that.

[flash]

No one prefers that.

Next thing somebody will be telling us they would rather play gowf!

[SickBoy32]

Seriously. Other clubs have point schemes that run perfectly well. Hearts are actually a decent example of this.

1 point per home league game (if you buy a ST, you’re given the equivalent number of points per home games that year (18/19?)
1 point per home cup game (as long as ticket is activated at turnstile)

Stagger sales for high demand games.
It’s not difficult.

Spot on, it's really not difficult

This would incentivise attendance at home ties in the earlier rounds of cup comps too (eg the 8k we got vs Raith this year) - the club would quickly take more revenue this way, rather than the paltry £30/50 membership fee for Hibs First, plus the team would get the benefit of more bodies in the ground !

[Chorley Hibee]

Yeh I think I've seen it on here too. They wouldn't be fully excluded from getting Tynecastle tickets though. They would still have a chance.

And surely no one is currently buying a season ticket just so they can try and get a 25% chance of a ticket twice a season at a ground we rarely win at? People saying they wouldn't renew are at it.

Part of the issue is how smalltime a stadium Tynecastle is. I think we now get only 3000 tickets? And we give them about 3900 from memory.

Our allocation seems to get smaller with each visit.

Whole sections closed nearest each Hearts stand, plus the first few rows now inaccessible.

They've been taking the piss for years whilst we provide them with a full stand on each visit.

[matty_f]

No one prefers that.

Exactly. That wasn’t a preferred option!!

[GreenCastle]

Seriously. Other clubs have point schemes that run perfectly well. Hearts are actually a decent example of this.

1 point per home league game (if you buy a ST, you’re given the equivalent number of points per home games that year (18/19?)
1 point per home cup game (as long as ticket is activated at turnstile)

Stagger sales for high demand games.
It’s not difficult.

What about away games ?

Every away game same loyalty points ?

That include semi finals and finals at Hampden Etc and European games which are the furthest to travel ?

[Danderhall Hibs]

What about away games ?

Every away game same loyalty points ?

That include semi finals and finals at Hampden Etc and European games which are the furthest to travel ?

I’d just ask Aberdeen or Hearts for a copy of the IT code so we could plug it in.

[Itsnoteasy]

Next thing somebody will be telling us they would rather play gowf!

They may even play golf in the morning then Escape Room in the afternoon, but there was no mention of golf being played that day.

[Danderhall Hibs]

They may even play golf in the morning then Escape Room in the afternoon, but there was no mention of golf being played that day.

Was there mention of it being a preference?

[Hermit Crab]

Our allocation seems to get smaller with each visit.

Whole sections closed nearest each Hearts stand, plus the first few rows now inaccessible.

They've been taking the piss for years whilst we provide them with a full stand on each visit.



Thats not quite accurate. Row 1 was removed when the pitch was made bigger to make UEFA compliant.

Row 2 is still there but it has chicken wire over it when we visit, probably done on the back of the idiot who tried to punch the Hearts keeper a few seasons ago.

Only some seats in block H and block M lower sections are closed off but not the full sections.

Never understood why Hibs don't do the same at ER instead of blocking off the corner of the East instead

[TrinityHFC]

Not having that mate, folk choose to go because they want to it, it’s not and never has been a job or an obligation. It shouldn’t give them special status for big games. The considerable cost and effort is to do something they enjoy and actively want to do.

Anyway, think this is at risk of turning into an uberfan debate and I’m sure none of us can be bothered with that so I’ll respectfully agree to disagree, i don’t see anyone changing their opinion on this and that’s fine, both are valid.

Correct and it is the sort of chat that made the scheme unbearable. If you can go every single week then brilliant, you get the reward of watching the game you paid in to see.

It was a scheme that wasn’t really needed, created logistical issues that outweighed the benefits and led to endless Uber fan debates. Think it was right to retire it at the time.

[Itsnoteasy]

What about away games ?

Every away game same loyalty points ?

That include semi finals and finals at Hampden Etc and European games which are the furthest to travel ?

Instead of airmiles, Hibs motorway miles. Those with most miles get 1st dibs.

[matty_f]

They may even play golf in the morning then Escape Room in the afternoon, but there was no mention of golf being played that day.

Can confirm no golf is played ever, especially not over going to the football

[Keith_M]

Some even prefer to do The Crystal Maze style Escape Rooms on a Saturday when Hibs are playing.


No one prefers that.


Next thing somebody will be telling us they would rather play gowf!


Exactly. That wasn’t a preferred option!!


They may even play golf in the morning then Escape Room in the afternoon, but there was no mention of golf being played that day.



Anybody else curious about what the hell they're talking about?


:greengrin

[Hermit Crab]

So this game is not on TV, I think thats a good thing. 3pm derby on a Saturday is what we as fans want. Obvs if you're an international subscriber you get it and a dodgy fire stick will get it too.

Mind the last time, Hibs moved it at ER and then blamed Hearts for wanting it changed when it was Kensell all along the lying toad.


As for pay per view games, every club should be asked to nominate their 5 preferred PPV matches when the fixtures are announced and also pick 5 back up matches should the first choices be picked up for tv. None of this changing kick off times a few weeks before the match takes place.

[Danderhall Hibs]

So this game is not on TV, I think thats a good thing. 3pm derby on a Saturday is what we as fans want. Obvs if you're an international subscriber you get it and a dodgy fire stick will get it too.

Mind the last time, Hibs moved it at ER and then blamed Hearts for wanting it changed when it was Kensell all along the lying toad.


As for pay per view games, every club should be asked to nominate their 5 preferred PPV matches when the fixtures are announced and also pick 5 back up matches should the first choices be picked up for tv. None of this changing kick off times a few weeks before the match takes place.

Are Hearts not putting it on PPV?

[flash]

Anybody else curious about what the hell they're talking about?


:greengrin

I am part of it and have no idea what's being talked about.

[Hermit Crab]

Are Hearts not putting it on PPV?


No, they don't want to.

[Danderhall Hibs]

No, they don't want to.

That’s interesting. Wonder if they’re struggling to sell home tickets. Otherwise it’d be the one they’d make most money out of.

[Hermit Crab]

That’s interesting. Wonder if they’re struggling to sell home tickets. Otherwise it’d be the one they’d make most money out of.


It could be to do with Hibs lying about the previous derby at ER getting moved for PPV.

[S4uzee]

When can tickets be collected?

[Hermit Crab]

When can tickets be collected?


Collection is from Wednesday the 27th of September.

[JimBHibees]

It could be to do with Hibs lying about the previous derby at ER getting moved for PPV.

It was moved for Ppv was it not?

[Hermit Crab]

It was moved for Ppv was it not?


Yes it was, but Hibs said it was Hearts that wanted it moved when that wasn't the case. Kensell lied about it.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Yes it was, but Hibs said it was Hearts that wanted it moved when that wasn't the case. Kensell lied about it.

Can’t see how or why that would be related.

[JimBHibees]

Yes it was, but Hibs said it was Hearts that wanted it moved when that wasn't the case. Kensell lied about it.

How do you know it wasn't the case?

[superfurryhibby]

First derby at Tynecastle since 2001-2002 season.

Season ticket holders, but not Hibs First. I guess it's just luck of the draw if you didn't join the scheme. No probs with that.

[flash]

It could be to do with Hibs lying about the previous derby at ER getting moved for PPV.

Yeah it's bound to be Hibs fault.

[BlackSheep]

I managed 5 individual tickets over the course of the day between 11am to around 1pm..... I have the luxury of working from home and being able to sit and hit refresh over and over through my lunch break.... so its possible to get tickets, its just extremely hard and takes a lot of time. Also is almost impossible without a Hibs First membership to get seats together... those that managed it, well done.

But.... should it be this hard?

To be honest, it shouldn't but when you do the maths a few thousand tickets divided by the number of Season Ticket holders alone is always gonna be tough, add to that the fans who only attend the 'big' games and the casual supporters just there for the occasion and its no wonder it works out to about 1 in 10 getting tickets relatively easily.

One should note that not 1 of the tickets i managed to grab are near any of the others! But i can stand 90 mins away from my mates if it means seeing the game 'together'.

[Brightside]

Yes it was, but Hibs said it was Hearts that wanted it moved when that wasn't the case. Kensell lied about it.

Is there much about Hibs that you actually like 😂

[Itsnoteasy]

Anybody else curious about what the hell they're talking about?


:greengrin

Let's break it down.
You have heard of Escape Rooms
A famous podcaster that's posts on here admitted on one of his shows, which is talking about Hibs previous game.He wasn't at the match that day as a member of his family booked a trip to the Escape Room on a Saturday afternoon at kick off time.

Someone else chipped in with next thing you know they will be playing gawf on a Saturday when the Hibs games on.


Etc etc

[BS44]

That’s interesting. Wonder if they’re struggling to sell home tickets. Otherwise it’d be the one they’d make most money out of.

Would there have been a public sale for the home end? There will be roughly 2k season ticket grunts getting bumped out their seats for this one

[Bridge hibs]

Let's break it down.
You have heard of Escape Rooms
A famous podcaster that's posts on here admitted on one of his shows, which is talking about Hibs previous game.He wasn't at the match that day as a member of his family booked a trip to the Escape Room on a Saturday afternoon at kick off time.

Someone else chipped in with next thing you know they will be playing gawf on a Saturday when the Hibs games on.


Etc etcWho is the famous podcaster ?

[Blaster]

I think loyalty points should be brought back. I say that as someone who attends 6-8 away games per season so wouldn’t be near the top. I do however attend all home cup games and by looking at the sales for next Wednesday it may have encouraged a few extra to go

[Brightside]

Who is the famous podcaster ?

Tam McManus. Posts as MattyF. Alan Rough is on here too

[Bridge hibs]

Tam McManus. Posts as MattyF. Alan Rough is on here too

Yeah but who is the famous podcaster ? 🤣

[Cod Boy]

Close the thread until the next Tynecastle ticket game

[Hibs90]

What about away games ?

Every away game same loyalty points ?

That include semi finals and finals at Hampden Etc and European games which are the furthest to travel ?

Travel is irrelevant.

Since away sides sometimes sell tickets directly to Hibs fans, it would be impossible to manage.

Home games only or 1 point per away game that Hibs manage the ticket for and the ones that Hibs don't no points are awarded.. It would still ensure those who go to the most games get the biggest priority.

[BoomtownHibees]

Travel is irrelevant.

Since away sides sometimes sell tickets directly to Hibs fans, it would be impossible to manage.

Home games only or 1 point per away game that Hibs manage the ticket for and the ones that Hibs don't no points are awarded.. It would still ensure those who go to the most games get the biggest priority.

You would need to do something for away games as if it was only the home ones, every season ticket holder would be on the same points

There has only been 1 away game this season where the other team have sold direct

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Collection is from Wednesday the 27th of September.

Where did you hear that? Over a week and two home games after purchase in case of Hibs First members. Receipt said the standard 2 working days.

[TrinityHFC]

You would need to do something for away games as if it was only the home ones, every season ticket holder would be on the same points

There has only been 1 away game this season where the other team have sold direct

It was another one of the issues with the old system. If you were local enough to Easter Rd to get an away ticket in advance then you got points. If you regularly bought on the day, which was possible for a large number of games, you didn’t get any. But the more enthusiastic supporters of the scheme weren’t that bothered about these details. They did lose the plot on HSL donations getting points though.

[Brooster]

Tam McManus. Posts as MattyF. Alan Rough is on here too

It's all falling in to place now. Escape rooms before Hibs, heard it all now.

[Itsnoteasy]

It's all falling in to place now. Escape rooms before Hibs, heard it all now.

Yip fact. He told the whole world on his podcast & had to rely on Sportscene to catch up on the match highlights, to discuss on his podcast the following week.

[Cammy]

Some nonsense being posted on this thread. Charge fans £250-£500 to be a member of Hibs First? Laughable.

ST holders should absolutely get priority over non ST ticket holders who don't go to games. It's the same arguments every time Hearts. tickets go on sale. As usual this will be a some peoples first and only away game.

Funny how everyone was able to make Villa away on the Thursday night but Aberdeen away on the Sunday was off limits for many. There will be loads of 'day trippers' at this game, that's guaranteed.

Hearts away brings out the best and worst in our support, someone gets a ticket and everything is fine, someone doesn't and the system is flawed and Hibs First and ST holders all of a sudden shouldn't get priority etc etc.

Everyone who is complaining about not getting a ticket had the chance to sign up to Hibs First but chose not to.

I still think points system should be brought back though

I'm not sure that is true. I'm not one who is complaining as I was lucky enough to get tickets, but I, and I'm sure a lot of others, would have signed up to Hibs First but missed out on it as there were so few available. Am I envious? Absolutely! It's fantastic for the 500 members, I just wish I had been quicker off the mark, but I didn't chose not to sign up.

[Danderhall Hibs]

I'm not sure that is true. I'm not one who is complaining as I was lucky enough to get tickets, but I, and I'm sure a lot of others, would have signed up to Hibs First but missed out on it as there were so few available. Am I envious? Absolutely! It's fantastic for the 500 members, I just wish I had been quicker off the mark, but I didn't chose not to sign up.

As I’ve been saying - sell more and increase the price. Demand is there.

[CapitalGreen]

As I’ve been saying - sell more and increase the price. Demand is there.

How do you know there is demand at a higher price point?

[matty_f]

It's all falling in to place now. Escape rooms before Hibs, heard it all now.

Just to be clear about this, and it's mental that I feel I need to justify this, that was a family event that I couldn't get out of, arranged to finish in time for me to see the game without being there, but circumstances conspired against me so I had to make do with the radio.

I've since watched the full game. The reason it was mentioned on the podcast was because it was such a ridiculous thing to miss it for.

It happens. I'll miss other games this season, too, no doubt. Hearts away, for one.

[CapitalGreen]

Just to be clear about this, and it's mental that I feel I need to justify this, that was a family event that I couldn't get out of, arranged to finish in time for me to see the game without being there, but circumstances conspired against me so I had to make do with the radio.

I've since watched the full game. The reason it was mentioned on the podcast was because it was such a ridiculous thing to miss it for.

It happens. I'll miss other games this season, too, no doubt. Hearts away, for one.

You failed to escape?

[Danderhall Hibs]

How do you know there is demand at a higher price point?

The guarantee of a derby ticket makes it almost priceless to many.

Obviously it’s an assumption, much like the £50 price point once was. Now it’s sold out and the value has been seen (ie only have to use it for derby tickets and not tied to all away games like the AST was) the probability is the price could easily be doubled (or more) and would still sell out.

There’d barely any risk - if it doesn’t sell out the club aren’t worse off (the £50 was only to cover admin and if there’s none sold there won’t be any admin).

[Danderhall Hibs]

Just to be clear about this, and it's mental that I feel I need to justify this, that was a family event that I couldn't get out of, arranged to finish in time for me to see the game without being there, but circumstances conspired against me so I had to make do with the radio.

I've since watched the full game. The reason it was mentioned on the podcast was because it was such a ridiculous thing to miss it for.

It happens. I'll miss other games this season, too, no doubt. Hearts away, for one.

Not good enough.

[Keepthefaith]

I'm not sure that is true. I'm not one who is complaining as I was lucky enough to get tickets, but I, and I'm sure a lot of others, would have signed up to Hibs First but missed out on it as there were so few available. Am I envious? Absolutely! It's fantastic for the 500 members, I just wish I had been quicker off the mark, but I didn't chose not to sign up.

this is the same for me too - and first time I've ben lucky enough to get tickets for the derby. still do favour some sort of loyalty points system - I'm a season ticket holder and have been to Motherwell and killie away so far this season so far.

I know Aberdeen was much lower this season - but overall I think our away support has been great over the last season or two and it would be nice for away support to be recognised. there is also an argument that to encourage more home walk up (and then subsequently persuade them to get a season ticket) that maybe walk ups can gain points too - just at different levels. after all every fan turning up to support the team should have the potential for it to be recognised in a loyalty scheme.

pretty sure a few seasons ago we rewarded fans attending a cup game to enter a draw for semi tickets but I can't quite remember who / when. I just remember this motivated me to go and I was lucky enough to get them!

[matty_f]

You failed to escape?

Busted! :faf:

[matty_f]

Not good enough.

I'll sit in the corner and think about what I've done.

[B.H.F.C]

this is the same for me too - and first time I've ben lucky enough to get tickets for the derby. still do favour some sort of loyalty points system - I'm a season ticket holder and have been to Motherwell and killie away so far this season so far.

I know Aberdeen was much lower this season - but overall I think our away support has been great over the last season or two and it would be nice for away support to be recognised. there is also an argument that to encourage more home walk up (and then subsequently persuade them to get a season ticket) that maybe walk ups can gain points too - just at different levels. after all every fan turning up to support the team should have the potential for it to be recognised in a loyalty scheme.

pretty sure a few seasons ago we rewarded fans attending a cup game to enter a draw for semi tickets but I can't quite remember who / when. I just remember this motivated me to go and I was lucky enough to get them!

I think what is forgotten is that a loyalty scheme doesn’t just benefit those who travel. Take the Villa home game for example, tickets went in minutes. People who are regular attendees, but not season ticket holders, were in with everyone else. Same when it comes to cup finals or whatever.

Im a Hibs First member, it works for me so I’m happy. But I’d still favour a loyalty scheme, it looks after more people.

[Not In The Know]

So this game is not on TV, I think thats a good thing. 3pm derby on a Saturday is what we as fans want. Obvs if you're an international subscriber you get it and a dodgy fire stick will get it too.

Mind the last time, Hibs moved it at ER and then blamed Hearts for wanting it changed when it was Kensell all along the lying toad.


As for pay per view games, every club should be asked to nominate their 5 preferred PPV matches when the fixtures are announced and also pick 5 back up matches should the first choices be picked up for tv. None of this changing kick off times a few weeks before the match takes place.

impossible. Tv fixtures take priority and are announced in blocks.

[Cammy]

The guarantee of a derby ticket makes it almost priceless to many.

Obviously it’s an assumption, much like the £50 price point once was. Now it’s sold out and the value has been seen (ie only have to use it for derby tickets and not tied to all away games like the AST was) the probability is the price could easily be doubled (or more) and would still sell out.

There’d barely any risk - if it doesn’t sell out the club aren’t worse off (the £50 was only to cover admin and if there’s none sold there won’t be any admin).

:agree: I would be willing to pay it for our 3 if there was availability.

[CapitalGreen]

The guarantee of a derby ticket makes it almost priceless to many.

Obviously it’s an assumption, much like the £50 price point once was. Now it’s sold out and the value has been seen (ie only have to use it for derby tickets and not tied to all away games like the AST was) the probability is the price could easily be doubled (or more) and would still sell out.

There’d barely any risk - if it doesn’t sell out the club aren’t worse off (the £50 was only to cover admin and if there’s none sold there won’t be any admin).

Could have just saved yourself typing all that out and said you don’t know.

[Keepthefaith]

I think what is forgotten is that a loyalty scheme doesn’t just benefit those who travel. Take the Villa home game for example, tickets went in minutes. People who are regular attendees, but not season ticket holders, were in with everyone else. Same when it comes to cup finals or whatever.

Im a Hibs First member, it works for me so I’m happy. But I’d still favour a loyalty scheme, it looks after more people.

but that's exactly what I'm saying - I think if you are a regular walk up, that should also be recognised so you have more choice than a day tripper...bit of a bug bear for me that folk just turn up once a season - I was one of the 10k who saw us beat rangers in the semi 3-1 and did so out of loyalty and because supporting your team means through thick and thin because you just never know what might happen!

[Itsnoteasy]

You failed to escape?

He's still there. He's not going to make Hearts away. It's easier to escape from Wandsworth prison.

[matty_f]

He's still there. He's not going to make Hearts away. It's easier to escape from Wandsworth prison.

Actual factual. Posting from there now. Send help.

[GreenCastle]

Any reintroduced loyalty scheme would have to be consistent.

It’s for all away games or none. Not just a few that sell direct with Hibs or ones which don’t take into consideration tickets bought on the day.

There would have to be a way to keep it consistent - ideally all digital tickets logged and awarded points - but some away clubs don’t do that!!

Hampden semi finals should count too..Rangers 3-1 and Falkirk are 2 examples when a smaller crowd attended but Hibs win and got to final.

I know I mentioned it before but in the old scheme you could spend X amount buying tickets for lapsed fans or friends and not get any loyalty points. Surely again should be something for helping the club get more fans to attend and bringing more income to Hibs.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Could have just saved yourself typing all that out and said you don’t know.

I thought you wanted to understand how it works. Sorry.

[Itsnoteasy]

Actual factual. Posting from there now. Send help.

Please hurry & escape. I don't want to hear your understudys talking about Peach Melba or Passion Fruit lager next week.

[tamig]

Yes it was, but Hibs said it was Hearts that wanted it moved when that wasn't the case. Kensell lied about it.

You and your gossip again. Where are you getting this one from?

[Hermit Crab]

Where did you hear that? Over a week and two home games after purchase in case of Hibs First members. Receipt said the standard 2 working days.


Its on the info page on the official site

Additional InformationAll the tickets for this game will be paper tickets, no e-tickets will be issued.
Tickets selected for collection from Easter Road will be available to collect from 10am, Wednesday 27 September, 2023.

[JimBHibees]

Just to be clear about this, and it's mental that I feel I need to justify this, that was a family event that I couldn't get out of, arranged to finish in time for me to see the game without being there, but circumstances conspired against me so I had to make do with the radio.

I've since watched the full game. The reason it was mentioned on the podcast was because it was such a ridiculous thing to miss it for.

It happens. I'll miss other games this season, too, no doubt. Hearts away, for one.

You really don't need to justify it you had a family event on.

[LongJohnBanger]

Please hurry & escape. I don't want to hear your understudys talking about Peach Melba or Passion Fruit lager next week.

We've been talking about Matty's rising star for a while now and how he'll outgrow us like Diana Ross did with The Supremes.

When we inevitably form our splinter podcast I've suggested our tagline be "Putting the stud in understudy" to try and reclaim some pride.

[LongJohnBanger]

Just to be clear about this, and it's mental that I feel I need to justify this, that was a family event that I couldn't get out of, arranged to finish in time for me to see the game without being there, but circumstances conspired against me so I had to make do with the radio.

I've since watched the full game. The reason it was mentioned on the podcast was because it was such a ridiculous thing to miss it for.

It happens. I'll miss other games this season, too, no doubt. Hearts away, for one.

What I'm hearing is that the biggest, most challenging escape rooms are in fact...family commitments? And not daft wee knock off crystal mazes?

[Bridge hibs]

We've been talking about Matty's rising star for a while now and how he'll outgrow us like Diana Ross did with The Supremes.

When we inevitably form our splinter podcast I've suggested our tagline be "Putting the stud in understudy" to try and reclaim some pride.

Seems like Matty has a disgruntled fanboy on his hands, not to worry, once Matty sends him a signed photo of him wearing his glittery tit tassels that should cheer him up 🤗

Ps, what Escape room was it ? Fancy giving it a try

[LongJohnBanger]

Seems like Matty has a disgruntled fanboy on his hands, not to worry, once Matty sends him a signed photo of him wearing his glittery tit tassels that should cheer him up 🤗

Ps, what Escape room was it ? Fancy giving it a try

How do you know about the photos?

[Bridge hibs]

How do you know about the photos?

What goes on in Longbangers stays in Longbangers

[blackpoolhibs]

How many folk only go to Tynecastle, and how do people know this?

How do they constantly manage to get tickets too if they are day trippers?

Personally I think it's bollox.

[Keith_M]

Just to be clear about this, and it's mental that I feel I need to justify this, that was a family event that I couldn't get out of, arranged to finish in time for me to see the game without being there, but circumstances conspired against me so I had to make do with the radio.

I've since watched the full game. The reason it was mentioned on the podcast was because it was such a ridiculous thing to miss it for.

It happens. I'll miss other games this season, too, no doubt. Hearts away, for one.



:chop:

[007]

We've been talking about Matty's rising star for a while now and how he'll outgrow us like Diana Ross did with The Supremes.

When we inevitably form our splinter podcast I've suggested our tagline be "Putting the stud in understudy" to try and reclaim some pride.


Seems like Matty has a disgruntled fanboy on his hands, not to worry, once Matty sends him a signed photo of him wearing his glittery tit tassels that should cheer him up 🤗

Ps, what Escape room was it ? Fancy giving it a try

Sounds like a 60s group as well, Matty and the Glittery Tit Tassels (which he has outgrown too). 🤔

[matty_f]

Sounds like a 60s group as well, Matty and the Glittery Tit Tassels (which he has outgrown too). 🤔

:faf:

[Cammy]

How many folk only go to Tynecastle, and how do people know this?

How do they constantly manage to get tickets too if they are day trippers?

Personally I think it's bollox.

:agree: I agree, it's the same stuff that's rolled out each time.

[Skol]

How many folk only go to Tynecastle, and how do people know this?

How do they constantly manage to get tickets too if they are day trippers?

Personally I think it's bollox.

Outside of hampden games, i cannot recall my last away game that wasn’t tynecastle. It was probably under fenlon at Dunfermline.

I reckon I have only missed 6 or 7 game at tynecastle since 1986. All but one of those I was out the country, the other I was at a funeral.

[Brooster]

How many folk only go to Tynecastle, and how do people know this?

How do they constantly manage to get tickets too if they are day trippers?

Personally I think it's bollox.

Personally I think you are wrong.

I see folk at tynie who never go to Easter Road never mind any away games. I also seen dozens at Villa Park who are not season ticket holders. Andorra was regulars and Luzern was more or less the same give one or two who chose to go in a locked room or whatever it's called.

[Bridge hibs]

Personally I think you are wrong.

I see folk at tynie who never go to Easter Road never mind any away games. I also seen dozens at Villa Park who are not season ticket holders. Andorra was regulars and Luzern was more or less the same give one or two who chose to go in a locked room or whatever it's called.You see folk at tiny who never go to ER ? 🤣 you are in one stand at ER so how do you know they are not in the other stands ?

This thread is ****ing tragic with so many petty bairns bumbling on about non regular faces and locked rooms 🤣

[Brooster]

You see folk at tiny who never go to ER ? 🤣 you are in one stand at ER so how do you know they are not in the other stands ?

This thread is ****ing tragic with so many petty bairns bumbling on about non regular faces and locked rooms 🤣

Is that the best you can come up with?

I see folk at tynie who go to about 3 games a year, 2 of them being tynie. Do you need me to send photos?

Are you pals with locked room, day tripper boy?

[matty_f]

Is that the best you can come up with?

I see folk at tynie who go to about 3 games a year, 2 of them being tynie. Do you need me to send photos?

Are you pals with locked room, day tripper boy?

Are you saying I'm a day tripper? Nice take.

[WeeRussell]

Are you pals with locked room, day tripper boy?

Dear lord 😂

There’s some patter on here tonight.

[Since90+2]

Threads just turned into petty little bickering as per normal. Will be closer before the night is out, thankfully.

[Since90+2]

Dear lord 😂

There’s some patter on here tonight.

I'd imagine alcohol has been consumed reading that post.

[matty_f]

Threads just turned into petty little bickering as per normal. Will be closer before the night is out, thankfully.

:agree: Hopefully. Absolutely pathetic stuff.

[HNA12]

Closed. I dont think any explanation is required.