Derek McInnes

[JimBHibees]

Really don't understand large sections of our support clamouring for "attractive football" we are not Real Madrid. We are, despite the delusions of grandeur of some supporters
A very average mid table team and have been for years sadly. I will happily settle for "ugly" football if we regularly finish third and get European group stage football
Which is what McInnes did at Aberdeen with a budget similar to what we have now. Stability is what we need not more experiments with English lower league managers and up and comers.

I don't think large sections of our support do

[JimBHibees]

I couldn't disagree more.

Agree Robinson would leave immediately if asked. Don't see it being him somehow

[Smartie]

I couldn't disagree more.

I’m on the fence.

There’s a lot about us that will be attractive to prospective managers, I don’t think we’re at the basket case stage (yet).

But I think it would be highly delusional to expect managers who are currently enjoying a degree of success and security to leave all that and join us without first having to seek any reassurances. Whatever the reasons, we’ve become a bit of a managerial graveyard and anyone with intelligence would at least need to think about it.

[IberianHibernian]

I’m on the fence.

There’s a lot about us that will be attractive to prospective managers, I don’t think we’re at the basket case stage (yet).

But I think it would be highly delusional to expect managers who are currently enjoying a degree of success and security to leave all that and join us without first having to seek any reassurances. Whatever the reasons, we’ve become a bit of a managerial graveyard and anyone with intelligence would at least need to think about it.And can we afford to pay substantial compensation to rival clubs for managers who we may want to replace in the next year or so because of poor results and / or fan dissatisfaction for other reasons ?

[Bobby's Cinema]

It seems to be set in stone that a DM team is a crap watch.

I'd imagine most are going by the performances at ER. Where they were physical, gave us nothing, had all the gamesmanship in the world, ran the clock down etc to get the three points. With our record at Pittodrie and Tynie I would take a Hibs side going and doing a job like that all day long.

It's not to say that's the football that was being watched at home every week. He also rebuilt his squad several times during that period. I couldn't tell you a single Hibs manager in my time watching that has re-built a squad and kept us consistent at the top.

He was a victim of his own success a bit. Aberdeen consistently lost cup finals under him and reached the europa league 3rd round qualifier three seasons on the bounce without being able to take the next step. Some parallels with the JR doesn't win big games scenario.

[GreenCastle]

His record against Celtic isn’t very good..

49 matches and 7 wins.

Rangers

34 games and 7 wins

Hearts

37 games and 15 wins

He has beaten Hibs 18 times out of 33 games.

[IberianHibernian]

It seems to be set in stone that a DM team is a crap watch.

I'd imagine most are going by the performances at ER. Where they were physical, gave us nothing, had all the gamesmanship in the world, ran the clock down etc to get the three points. With our record at Pittodrie and Tynie I would take a Hibs side going and doing a job like that all day long.

It's not to say that's the football that was being watched at home every week. He also rebuilt his squad several times during that period. I couldn't tell you a single Hibs manager in my time watching that has re-built a squad and kept us consistent at the top.

He was a victim of his own success a bit. Aberdeen consistently lost cup finals under him and reached the europa league 3rd round qualifier three seasons on the bounce without being able to take the next step. Some parallels with the JR doesn't win big games scenario.Also lost in both cups to teams in lower divisions several times including us !

[zero-seven]

I would readily pay for the right manager as we have had incredibly poor decisions in this area in the past

exceptions being Mowbray, Stubbs and Lennon to a point , the rest are poor choices based on them interviewing well !! not with any substance regarding experience or success.

i would like , Michael O neill if possible or Stubbs. Mcinnes possibly, the others in the league dont interest me, we need to get this right for once or it will be a long hard season.

[matty_f]

What was Johnson’s Hibs record v McInnes’ Killie?

[Wheat Hound]

What was Johnson’s Hibs record v McInnes’ Killie?

Won 2 (1-0 & 2-0)

Lost 1 (0-1)

[matty_f]

Won 2 (1-0 & 2-0)

Lost 1 (0-1)

Thanks. Doesn’t really tell us much, eh? 😂

[NAE NOOKIE]

I would readily pay for the right manager as we have had incredibly poor decisions in this area in the past

exceptions being Mowbray, Stubbs and Lennon to a point , the rest are poor choices based on them interviewing well !! not with any substance regarding experience or success.

i would like , Michael O neill if possible or Stubbs. Mcinnes possibly, the others in the league dont interest me, we need to get this right for once or it will be a long hard season.

Yeh, maybe got a point there. It's one thing talking a good game, but where's the on field evidence to back it up? Practically every manager we will interview will have been sacked at one time or another. What was it that got you sacked? You say you want to make us play like Man City, but your last two clubs in EFL2 and the Scottish premiership played utter dross and leaked goals like mental.

[tonyrougier123]

It was my opinion at the time,I always felt mcinness had lennons measure in sheep v hibs games. There’s a lot to weigh up. Don’t think mackay should be discounted either.

[jacomo]

It seems to be set in stone that a DM team is a crap watch.

I'd imagine most are going by the performances at ER. Where they were physical, gave us nothing, had all the gamesmanship in the world, ran the clock down etc to get the three points. With our record at Pittodrie and Tynie I would take a Hibs side going and doing a job like that all day long.

It's not to say that's the football that was being watched at home every week. He also rebuilt his squad several times during that period. I couldn't tell you a single Hibs manager in my time watching that has re-built a squad and kept us consistent at the top.

He was a victim of his own success a bit. Aberdeen consistently lost cup finals under him and reached the europa league 3rd round qualifier three seasons on the bounce without being able to take the next step. Some parallels with the JR doesn't win big games scenario.


Fair points.

McInnes did lose his main goal scorer several seasons in a row and had to continually find a new way to win games at Aberdeen. Not easy.

[easty]

His record against Celtic isn’t very good..

49 matches and 7 wins.

Rangers

34 games and 7 wins

Hearts

37 games and 15 wins

He has beaten Hibs 18 times out of 33 games.

It’s not “great”, but it’s not bad either.

In our last 49 v Celtc we’ve only won once more.
Hearts last 49 v Celtc, they’ve only won 5.

Against Rangers, our last 34 games, we’ve also won 7.
Hearts won 7 too.

[Alex Trager]

It’s not “great”, but it’s not bad either.

In our last 49 v Celtc we’ve only won once more.
Hearts last 49 v Celtc, they’ve only won 5.

Against Rangers, our last 34 games, we’ve also won 7.
Hearts won 7 too.

What about in the top division? How do our stats look vs the huns?

[Springbank]

It’s not “great”, but it’s not bad either.

In our last 49 v Celtc we’ve only won once more.
Hearts last 49 v Celtc, they’ve only won 5.

Against Rangers, our last 34 games, we’ve also won 7.
Hearts won 7 too.

Am I right in thinking Neil Lennon beat Rangers twice at Ibrox in the same season with us?

And has that ever happened before at Ibrox for any team bar Celtic?

[Trinity Hibee]

Am I right in thinking Neil Lennon beat Rangers twice at Ibrox in the same season with us?

And has that ever happened before at Ibrox for any team bar Celtic?

Correct. 3-2 and 2-1 in 2017/8

Mowbray won 3-0 twice in same season. One in league and one in cup

[Paulie Walnuts]

It’s not “great”, but it’s not bad either.

In our last 49 v Celtc we’ve only won once more.
Hearts last 49 v Celtc, they’ve only won 5.

Against Rangers, our last 34 games, we’ve also won 7.
Hearts won 7 too.

:agree:

It’s pretty much par for the course. You’d potentially have expected better because they done so well for so long but it’s not any worse than anyone else’s record, all of which are pretty ****.

[MWHIBBIES]

Am I right in thinking Neil Lennon beat Rangers twice at Ibrox in the same season with us?

And has that ever happened before at Ibrox for any team bar Celtic?
Stubbs done it 2 years before. Mowbray done it.

[ShadesLongThrow]

His record against Celtic isn’t very good..

49 matches and 7 wins.

Rangers

34 games and 7 wins

Hearts

37 games and 15 wins

He has beaten Hibs 18 times out of 33 games.

His Aberdeen team has generally finished 2nd, 3rd and 4th. So what that does tell me is he is very consistent against all the other teams in the league. All the ones we struggle to beat.

He’s my first choice. I want to watch a team that wins and isn’t scared to make a tackle or be a bit nasty when needed. And let’s face it, the only time when we show a bit of this mythical Hibs flair is when we’re a goal down with 10 mins to play.

[NAE NOOKIE]

His Aberdeen team has generally finished 2nd, 3rd and 4th. So what that does tell me is he is very consistent against all the other teams in the league. All the ones we struggle to beat.

He’s my first choice. I want to watch a team that wins and isn’t scared to make a tackle or be a bit nasty when needed. And let’s face it, the only time when we show a bit of this mythical Hibs flair is when we’re a goal down with 10 mins to play.

And that is absolutely the point here, with which you have just beaten me to the punch after reading the last page or so. The very fact that McInnes record against the Uglies isn't any better than the likes of us or Hearts simply has to correlate to a conclusion that his success in achieving a number of top 4 finishes is based on an ability to consistently get results against the rest of the league.

In a number of discussions over the last few months on where this club historically falls down it has always boiled down to that factor. It's not what we do against the Uglies that matters, because there isn't a club in the league that does any better against them than we do, some considerably worse. What matters is holding your own against Hearts and Aberdeen and picking up far better results than we do against the rest of the league.

That's why so many of our managers end up getting the boot, its failure to win what on paper should be winnable games and in the last 10 years no manager in the league has achieved that with anything like the consistency that Derek McInnes has. It makes the guy a no brainer when you look at it.

If you want regular European football you do it by beating St Johnston and Ross County, not Celtic and the The Rangers.

[Brizo]

Really don't understand large sections of our support clamouring for "attractive football" we are not Real Madrid. We are, despite the delusions of grandeur of some supporters
A very average mid table team and have been for years sadly. I will happily settle for "ugly" football if we regularly finish third and get European group stage football
Which is what McInnes did at Aberdeen with a budget similar to what we have now. Stability is what we need not more experiments with English lower league managers and up and comers.


I'm not clamouring for guaranteed "attractive football" and having watched Hibs for nearly 60 years I'm very aware that we are not Real Madrid:greengrin. What we are is a club whose most successful periods have been characterized by managers who have endeavored to get us playing entertaining attacking football, Turnbull, McLeish, Mowbray , Stubbs to name four.

While ugly football did get Aberdeen a consistent level of relative success , lots of sheep were bleating about his teams and his tactics even during his successful seasons. Ive also no time for the cynical, cheating, diving, time-wasting antics that have characterized every McInness team although I get it that lots of people , maybe yourself included, would be quite happy to see that if it got us European positions each season. Thats probably just my delusions of grandeur that hopes for something different :)

[Nicho87]

I think the last time we saw real hibs flair was going 4-1 up against Dundee

Full time result was 4-4

Time for mcinnes

[MWHIBBIES]

I think the last time we saw real hibs flair was going 4-1 up against Dundee

Full time result was 4-4

Time for mcinnes

You been in a coma since?

[Hibbyradge]

I haven't read the entire thread, so this may have already been discussed, but has McInness ever worked with a DoF?

Would he want to?

[easty]

I'm not clamouring for guaranteed "attractive football" and having watched Hibs for nearly 60 years I'm very aware that we are not Real Madrid:greengrin. What we are is a club whose most successful periods have been characterized by managers who have endeavored to get us playing entertaining attacking football, Turnbull, McLeish, Mowbray , Stubbs to name four.

While ugly football did get Aberdeen a consistent level of relative success , lots of sheep were bleating about his teams and his tactics even during his successful seasons. Ive also no time for the cynical, cheating, diving, time-wasting antics that have characterized every McInness team although I get it that lots of people , maybe yourself included, would be quite happy to see that if it got us European positions each season. Thats probably just my delusions of grandeur that hopes for something different :)

Hibs play exciting attacking football when we’re lucky to have quality players that can do it.

McLeish had an incredible squad. Mowbray had the fortune of having Brown, Thomson, Whittaker, Fletcher, Deek, O’Connor all come through the youth team. Stubbs had McGinn and Allan.

I’d not expect any of those managers to get this lot to be playing particularly exciting football. We’re short at least one quality midfielder who can make things happen in the final third.

[AlbertK86]

Hibs play exciting attacking football when we’re lucky to have quality players that can do it.

McLeish had an incredible squad. Mowbray had the fortune of having Brown, Thomson, Whittaker, Fletcher, Deek, O’Connor all come through the youth team. Stubbs had McGinn and Allan.

I’d not expect any of those managers to get this lot to be playing particularly exciting football. We’re short at least one quality midfielder who can make things happen in the final third.

Once Levitt is fit he may be that one. Him Newell and a new robust all round midfielder needed to go forward


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[IberianHibernian]

If we decided to offer McInnes the job and he accepted is question not that we`d have to pay Killie a lot of compo , offer McInnes and his coaching team high salaries and long contracts to maybe guarantee avoiding relegation fights for a few years and maybe even get a couple of top 4 or 5 places but with crap , boring football and without consolation of cup runs we got under Fenlon , Ross , Maloney etc . Personally I`d prefer a good chance of an exciting time till next summer and hopefully beyond knowing we could look forward to something different if things don`t work out .

[HoboHarry]

Hibs play exciting attacking football when we’re lucky to have quality players that can do it.

McLeish had an incredible squad. Mowbray had the fortune of having Brown, Thomson, Whittaker, Fletcher, Deek, O’Connor all come through the youth team. Stubbs had McGinn and Allan.

I’d not expect any of those managers to get this lot to be playing particularly exciting football. We’re short at least one quality midfielder who can make things happen in the final third.
Full and under 21 Scotland squads announced and not a single Hibs player involved. Wee indication of where we are right now.

[wookie70]

His record against Celtic isn’t very good..

49 matches and 7 wins.

Rangers

34 games and 7 wins

Hearts

37 games and 15 wins

He has beaten Hibs 18 times out of 33 games.

Quite a bit of that is while managing Killie and St Johnstone though. I'd say his record while managing the Dons stands up well against most bosses. He beat The Rangers 5 times in 21 games for Aberdeen and also had 5 draws. I'd say that is a decent record and getting a win and draw against them every season is a reasonable return. He has beat Celtc 5 times too as Dons boss from 35.
9 wins, 6 draws and 9 defeats so an equal record against the Jambos, not many of our managers get that over a short spell never mind the long period McInnes managed Aberdeen.

Lennons record against Celtc and The Rangers is about as good as it gets for a Hibs boss, against Hearts he has the same record as McInnes albeit over a shorter period of time. He has less points per game though than McInnes, in their spells at Hibs and Aberdeen respectively, despite more than a third of his time spent in the Championship. McInnes also has a good record of building teams which is what we desperately need.

[IberianHibernian]

Quite a bit of that is while managing Killie and St Johnstone though. I'd say his record while managing the Dons stands up well against most bosses. He beat The Rangers 5 times in 21 games for Aberdeen and also had 5 draws. I'd say that is a decent record and getting a win and draw against them every season is a reasonable return. He has beat Celtc 5 times too as Dons boss from 35.
9 wins, 6 draws and 9 defeats so an equal record against the Jambos, not many of our managers get that over a short spell never mind the long period McInnes managed Aberdeen.

Lennons record against Celtc and The Rangers is about as good as it gets for a Hibs boss, against Hearts he has the same record as McInnes albeit over a shorter period of time. He has less points per game though than McInnes, in their spells at Hibs and Aberdeen respectively, despite more than a third of his time spent in the Championship. McInnes also has a good record of building teams which is what we desperately need.Not many managers stay long enough at a club to have the chance to match McInnes`record , either because they move on before or because they`re fired . Seem to remember Aberdeen with McInnes losing to a lot of lower league opposition in cups , something we`ve generally been good at avoiding this century ( League Cup with LJ an obvious exception ) - great runs with big banana skins with Fenlon and Maloney for example .

[Donegal Hibby]

Quite a bit of that is while managing Killie and St Johnstone though. I'd say his record while managing the Dons stands up well against most bosses. He beat The Rangers 5 times in 21 games for Aberdeen and also had 5 draws. I'd say that is a decent record and getting a win and draw against them every season is a reasonable return. He has beat Celtc 5 times too as Dons boss from 35.
9 wins, 6 draws and 9 defeats so an equal record against the Jambos, not many of our managers get that over a short spell never mind the long period McInnes managed Aberdeen.

Lennons record against Celtc and The Rangers is about as good as it gets for a Hibs boss, against Hearts he has the same record as McInnes albeit over a shorter period of time. He has less points per game though than McInnes, in their spells at Hibs and Aberdeen respectively, despite more than a third of his time spent in the Championship. McInnes also has a good record of building teams which is what we desperately need.

I honestly don't think we need a team built tbh . I do believe we have the makings of a good team already at ER TBH . Our frontline of Boyle , Vente and Youan is as good as anything outside the old firm imo Midfield definitely needs something added all right though players like Newell , Levitt , Campbell and Cadden I don't think we need to many changes tbh maybe one or two and the defense much the same . I'm hoping it's not going to be Lennon, McInnes or Robinson tbh . I'd rather see someone like an Arnold, Manning or even Montgomery get it to be honest .

[WeAreHibs]

I honestly don't think we need a team built tbh . I do believe we have the makings of a good team already at ER TBH . Our frontline of Boyle , Vente and Youan is as good as anything outside the old firm imo Midfield definitely needs something added all right though players like Newell , Levitt , Campbell and Cadden I don't think we need to many changes tbh maybe one or two and the defense much the same . I'm hoping it's not going to be Lennon, McInnes or Robinson tbh . I'd rather see someone like an Arnold, Manning or even Montgomery get it to be honest .

PP, Bernard or Colin?

[Springbank]

Full and under 21 Scotland squads announced and not a single Hibs player involved. Wee indication of where we are right now.

I take your point about the U21s (though we arguably could have had Murray Johnson pushing for that if we'd kept him for this season and given him a run)

For the full-team I guess we have Australia's right winger, a Wales midfielder, a Congo defender, all current internationals, plus our keeper has retired from Scotland duty, so couldn't be picked, and 2 veteran defenders with Scotland caps to their name but who are not ever going to be calle dup again.

Add to that a talented Dutch striker, French winger, Man U centre back, we are not in terrbiel shape on paper, but not many are eligible for Scotland I guess.

Themore damning thing about the LJ season was having a youth champions league team and not giving them a chance (and your point about lack of representation in the 21s is really well made). I'd hope that'll change as the season goes on and the U19s keep developing

[sleeping giant]

Can't see it being McInnes.
Surely word would have got out if we had approached Killie for him.

[easty]

Can't see it being McInnes.
Surely word would have got out if we had approached Killie for him.

Yeah, I've been thinking the same :agree:

[WeeRussell]

Can't see it being McInnes.
Surely word would have got out if we had approached Killie for him.

Would the same not be true for Robinson or anyone else currently at a club? I assumed they were just taking their time with the process.

[LaMotta]

Can't see it being McInnes.
Surely word would have got out if we had approached Killie for him.


Yeah, I've been thinking the same :agree:

I'd be happy with McInnes if he was a free agent, but due to his position with Killie, we'd have to pay way over the odds to land him in terms of compensation and wages so it really seems like a non runner.

I'd he astounded if its him.

[Onion]

Manager is most important job at the club, so you fork out for the best candidate who is willing to take the job. If McInnes wants to come to Hibs, and Hibs think he's the right man, then Hibs just need to find the few hundred thou to make it happen.

If we don't go for McInnes, he'll end up at Hearts. With Hearts money he'll make them 3rd forced by a distance.

[Northernhibee]

Can't see it being McInnes.
Surely word would have got out if we had approached Killie for him.

I have a feeling that we’re looking at the Aussie market, or Scott Brown.

Mostly from media noise.

I think NL is likely his mates in the media trying to create a wave of demand for him, as we’ll see with any job he would take.

[Not In The Know]

Can't see it being McInnes.
Surely word would have got out if we had approached Killie for him.

My guess is that longer it takes that we DON'T hear its Mcinnes the more likely it will be. Eg Killie will leak a story he's going nowhere if hes deffo staying.

[easty]

My guess is that longer it takes that we DON'T hear its Mcinnes the more likely it will be. Eg Killie will leak a story he's going nowhere if hes deffo staying.

I would only expect Killie to say anything if it was to say we'd asked for permission to talk to him, and they'd refused. Otherwise they'll say nothing.

[badabing67]

Can't see it being McInnes.
Surely word would have got out if we had approached Killie for him.

I think we will have sounded him out and he is either not interested or he will cost to much

[Carheenlea]

McInnes could publicly rule himself out. I’m sure Kilmarnock fans will be wondering if a move for their manager could be imminent and concerned of upheaval themselves.

That he’s not done so maybe hints that he’d be interested.

[Northernhibee]

I would only expect Killie to say anything if it was to say we'd asked for permission to talk to him, and they'd refused. Otherwise they'll say nothing.

That also makes me think that McInnes would be in a position where he’s willing to consider but not guaranteed to accept though. The “we have given club x permission to talk to staff member y after agreeing compensation” message is usually a formality.

[Not In The Know]

I would only expect Killie to say anything if it was to say we'd asked for permission to talk to him, and they'd refused. Otherwise they'll say nothing.


I suppose we will need to wait for the "expert grilling" he'll get on sportsound...

[sleeping giant]

I have a feeling that we’re looking at the Aussie market, or Scott Brown.

Mostly from media noise.

I think NL is likely his mates in the media trying to create a wave of demand for him, as we’ll see with any job he would take.
Just don't get the Scott Brown stuff.
If he hadn't played for Hibs , he wouldn't be mentioned.

[sleeping giant]

I'd be happy with McInnes if he was a free agent, but due to his position with Killie, we'd have to pay way over the odds to land him in terms of compensation and wages so it really seems like a non runner.

I'd he astounded if its him.
What sort of compensation do you think it would cost ?

[JimBHibees]

McInnes could publicly rule himself out. I’m sure Kilmarnock fans will be wondering if a move for their manager could be imminent and concerned of upheaval themselves.

That he’s not done so maybe hints that he’d be interested.

Also possible he has a release clause.

[Pretty Boy]

Not many managers stay long enough at a club to have the chance to match McInnes`record , either because they move on before or because they`re fired . Seem to remember Aberdeen with McInnes losing to a lot of lower league opposition in cups , something we`ve generally been good at avoiding this century ( League Cup with LJ an obvious exception ) - great runs with big banana skins with Fenlon and Maloney for example .

In the cups McInness record with Aberdeen in full seasons was:

13/14 :
LC - Won
SC - Lost SF to St Johnstone (Premier)

14/15:
LC - Lost SF to Dundee Utd (Premier)
SC - lost 3rd round to Dundee (premier)

15/16:
LC - Lost 3rd round to Hibs (Championship)
SC - Lost 4th round to Hearts (Premier)

16/17:
LC - Lost final to Celtic
SC - Lost final to Celtic

17/18:
LC - Lost QF to Motherwell (premier)
SC - Lost semi final to Motherwell (premier)

18/19:
LC - Lost final to Celtic
SC - Lost SF to Celtic

19/20:
LC - Lost QF to Hearts
SC - Lost SF to Celtic

There are certainly a few questionable results there but the only lower league team he ever lost to was Hibs. 4 finals in 7 seasons isn't bad going and he won the one you would have really expected him to.

[easty]

In the cups McInness record with Aberdeen in full seasons was:

13/14 :
LC - Won
SC - Lost SF to St Johnstone (Premier)

14/15:
LC - Lost SF to Dundee Utd (Premier)
SC - lost 3rd round to Dundee (premier)

15/16:
LC - Lost 3rd round to Hibs (Championship)
SC - Lost 4th round to Hearts (Premier)

16/17:
LC - Lost final to Celtic
SC - Lost final to Celtic

17/18:
LC - Lost QF to Motherwell (premier)
SC - Lost semi final to Motherwell (premier)

18/19:
LC - Lost final to Celtic
SC - Lost SF to Celtic

19/20:
LC - Lost QF to Hearts
SC - Lost SF to Celtic

There are certainly a few questionable results there but the only lower league team he ever lost to was Hibs. 4 finals in 7 seasons isn't bad going and he won the one you would have really expected him to.

I’d seen folk use McInnes poor cup form with Aberdeen against him on here and just assumed it was true.

That cup record is fine, not amazing, but not worth pointing out has a negative.

[erin go bragh]

I’d seen folk use McInnes poor cup form with Aberdeen against him on here and just assumed it was true.

That cup record is fine, not amazing, but not worth pointing out has a negative.
8 trips to Hampden including 4 finals, winning one and thats in seven seasons. Throw in some second and third place league placings. And were turning our nose up at him.

[easty]

8 trips to Hampden including 4 finals, winning one and thats in seven seasons. Throw in some second and third place league placings. And were turning our nose up at him.

I don't see any negatives with McInnes, and he's still my first choice. I don't think it'll be him though, dunno why.

[JimBHibees]

I don't see any negatives with McInnes, and he's still my first choice. I don't think it'll be him though, dunno why.

Agree with that. Seems the obvious candidate

[NAE NOOKIE]

8 trips to Hampden including 4 finals, winning one and thats in seven seasons. Throw in some second and third place league placings. And were turning our nose up at him.

Indeed. An accusation aimed at some of our previous managers, not least Johnson, was that they failed to appreciate just how important the cup competitions are to all of the non Uglies teams ... the only realistic chance any of us have to win silverware. Not just that, but a chance to make some serious money once you get to the semi finals.

No chance that fact will be lost on McInnes, no matter what folk's opinions of him are.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I don't see any negatives with McInnes, and he's still my first choice. I don't think it'll be him though, dunno why.

Pretty much where I am.

[KWJ]

I think McInnes would be a good Hibs manager, my worry is that he'd never have all the fans onside and we'd end up in a situation similar to what we've just gone through as a noisy element of the support make knee-jerk reactions to a couple bad defeats, or even just some defensive football.

In a way he's the Anti Lennon. McInnes is typically very defensive against the Old Firm and IIRC has a pretty poor record for it prior to this season. Lennon tried to go toe to toe and had a pretty good record.

I just don't see a way to a long and happy relationship with either of them.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I think McInnes would be a good Hibs manager, my worry is that he'd never have all the fans onside and we'd end up in a situation similar to what we've just gone through as a noisy element of the support make knee-jerk reactions to a couple bad defeats, or even just some defensive football.

In a way he's the Anti Lennon. McInnes is typically very defensive against the Old Firm and IIRC has a pretty poor record for it prior to this season. Lennon tried to go toe to toe and had a pretty good record.

I just don't see a way to a long and happy relationship with either of them.

Someone posted McInnes record against the OF, Hearts and us whilst Aberdeen manager. It’s a decent record.

Rangers - played 21, won 5, drawn 5, lost 11
Celtic - played 35, won 5
Hearts - played 24, won 9, drew 6, lost 9.

The poster didn’t post draws etc against Celtic or his record against Hibs but he definitely has a good record against us as Aberdeen manager and his record against the rest is as good if not better than most other managers over the last 10 years.

[KWJ]

Someone posted McInnes record against the OF, Hearts and us whilst Aberdeen manager. It’s a decent record.

Rangers - played 21, won 5, drawn 5, lost 11
Celtic - played 35, won 5
Hearts - played 24, won 9, drew 6, lost 9.

The poster didn’t post draws etc against Celtic or his record against Hibs but he definitely has a good record against us as Aberdeen manager and his record against the rest is as good if not better than most other managers over the last 10 years.

His record v us is great but that, or vs Hearts when another teams manager aren't all that relevant IMO. We know he is a good manager in this league. His record against Celtic is lost 40 in 49. Hibs have lost 31 of our last 51 v Celtic so a good bit better. Rangers is kinda hard to judge with what they've been like over the last few years.

3 points are the same against anybody though and I'd rather beat every other team and finish 3rd than win the OFs and ....struggling to say derbies too :greengrin . I'd probably take his record over Dundee United when at Aberdeen although he had a few stinkers there too.

Aye, works for me but it's another easy things for the fans that don't want him to beat him with. And that's my main concern, I can't see him getting the all the fans onside without a ridiculous start and getting Sauzee's face tattooed on his arse.

I'd love to see someone like Knutjsen or Geraerts but I realise that's highly unlikely. Just someone without baggage that we can all get behind and have reason to think could do well. Graeme Arnold just about falls into that bracket too.

[jacomo]

I haven't read the entire thread, so this may have already been discussed, but has McInness ever worked with a DoF?

Would he want to?


You ask a good question. I don’t think he has.

[Paulie Walnuts]

His record v us is great but that, or vs Hearts when another teams manager aren't all that relevant IMO. We know he is a good manager in this league. His record against Celtic is lost 40 in 49. Hibs have lost 31 of our last 51 v Celtic so a good bit better. Rangers is kinda hard to judge with what they've been like over the last few years.

3 points are the same against anybody though and I'd rather beat every other team and finish 3rd than win the OFs and ....struggling to say derbies too :greengrin . I'd probably take his record over Dundee United when at Aberdeen although he had a few stinkers there too.

Aye, works for me but it's another easy things for the fans that don't want him to beat him with. And that's my main concern, I can't see him getting the all the fans onside without a ridiculous start and getting Sauzee's face tattooed on his arse.

I'd love to see someone like Knutjsen or Geraerts but I realise that's highly unlikely. Just someone without baggage that we can all get behind and have reason to think could do well. Graeme Arnold just about falls into that bracket too.

Knutsjen was in talks to become Ajax manager the other month but couldn’t agree terms. Unfortunately he won’t be coming here!

[7Hero]

I think McInnes would be a good Hibs manager, my worry is that he'd never have all the fans onside and we'd end up in a situation similar to what we've just gone through as a noisy element of the support make knee-jerk reactions to a couple bad defeats, or even just some defensive football.

In a way he's the Anti Lennon. McInnes is typically very defensive against the Old Firm and IIRC has a pretty poor record for it prior to this season. Lennon tried to go toe to toe and had a pretty good record.

I just don't see a way to a long and happy relationship with either of them.


Knee-Jerk ? Johnson had plenty time to win the fans over, he failed consistently on a) team selection b) team motivation c) recruitment and d) winnning football matches.

You should be thanking this noisy element for making the board see sense.

[erin go bragh]

Someone posted McInnes record against the OF, Hearts and us whilst Aberdeen manager. It’s a decent record.

Rangers - played 21, won 5, drawn 5, lost 11
Celtic - played 35, won 5
Hearts - played 24, won 9, drew 6, lost 9.

The poster didn’t post draws etc against Celtic or his record against Hibs but he definitely has a good record against us as Aberdeen manager and his record against the rest is as good if not better than most other managers over the last 10 years.
Sure Lennon went 10 games undefeated against Hearts. Never lost a game at ER to Celtic and beat Rangers home and away regularly.

[easty]

Sure Lennon went 10 games undefeated against Hearts. Never lost a game at ER to Celtic and beat Rangers home and away regularly.

Nope. He managed us in 9 derbys. Won 3, drew 3, lost 3.

[Alex Trager]

Sure Lennon went 10 games undefeated against Hearts. Never lost a game at ER to Celtic and beat Rangers home and away regularly.
Lennon never beat Rangers at Easter road once.

Stubbs started the run vs Hearts taking charge of 5 of the 9 undefeated.

[Onion]

IMO McInnes is an upgrade on Lennon and a better long-term prospect. Lennon will chuck his toys as soon as he’s not given the £££ he needs to correct his mistakes.

[Skol1972]

Knee-Jerk ? Johnson had plenty time to win the fans over, he failed consistently on a) team selection b) team motivation c) recruitment and d) winnning football matches.

You should be thanking this noisy element for making the board see sense.
Don't know if the poster was refering to Johnson. I think he had to go. But Heckingbottom and to a greater extent Ross both seemed rushed to me. I accept that they were both on a bad run when sacked but didn't get the chance to turn it around. Then we ended up with Maloney and Johnson neither of which have improved us.

[JimBHibees]

You ask a good question. I don’t think he has.

Craig Brown not dof at Aberdeen

[KWJ]

Knee-Jerk ? Johnson had plenty time to win the fans over, he failed consistently on a) team selection b) team motivation c) recruitment and d) winnning football matches.

You should be thanking this noisy element for making the board see sense.

Whether it was or wasn't, I was meaning more the hostile environment. I think it could turn even quicker than it did for Johnson or Ross because, as we can see from the thread, some fans just wouldn't take to him.

[LaMotta]

What sort of compensation do you think it would cost ?

He signed a 3.5 year extension end of last year so is contracted to Killie until 2026.

We paid between £100-150k to Inverness ten years ago for Butcher when he only had 8 months left on his contract. I would think Killie would be looking for £4-500k.

[LaMotta]

You ask a good question. I don’t think he has.

McInnes ran the footballing dept at Aberdeen top to bottom, another stumbling block possibly.

[Tyler Durden]

He signed a 3.5 year extension end of last year so is contracted to Killie until 2026.

We paid between £100-150k to Inverness ten years ago for Butcher when he only had 8 months left on his contract. I would think Killie would be looking for £4-500k.

I don't think you'll be far away with that estimate.

Just take the cash from the Villa game and give it to Killie.

[7Hero]

[QUOTE=easty;7453557 I don't think it'll be him though, dunno why.[/QUOTE]

Cause we'll need to pay compo, Hibs will not be keen on additional costs, this would be why Lennon is apparently first choice.

They need to look past the cost of the appointment and select the correct candidate, that is Mcinnes over Lennon for me.

[chippy]

No way do I want us paying anything like 400k for compo for McInnes or Robinson.

[Onion]

Cause we'll need to pay compo, Hibs will not be keen on additional costs, this would be why Lennon is apparently first choice.

They need to look past the cost of the appointment and select the correct candidate, that is Mcinnes over Lennon for me.

:agree: would be typical of Hibs. Too often they've failed to correctly value the manager position, too happy to install the cheaper, passive, 3rd choices, and we've all paid the price. The extra few hundred thou to bring in McInnes is just part of the price the club needs to pay to correct mistakes of the past. Everything flows from the manger.

[Silky]

He signed a 3.5 year extension end of last year so is contracted to Killie until 2026.

We paid between £100-150k to Inverness ten years ago for Butcher when he only had 8 months left on his contract. I would think Killie would be looking for £4-500k.

No chance I'd want us paying that. Not when there is a likelihood he'll be emptied within a year/18 months.

[Stonewall]

:agree: would be typical of Hibs. Too often they've failed to correctly value the manager position, too happy to install the cheaper, passive, 3rd choices, and we've all paid the price. The extra few hundred thou to bring in McInnes is just part of the price the club needs to pay to correct mistakes of the past. Everything flows from the manger.

I’m sorry but who are these 3rd choices of whom you speak and who were the 1st and 2nd.

For what it’s worth Mrs S is a Dons fan, so I’ve watched them under McInnes in a fair number of home games and I thought the style of football wasn’t too bad. I think he was just very pragmatic away from home which made for some fairly gruesome games against us.

[ancient hibee]

I’d seen folk use McInnes poor cup form with Aberdeen against him on here and just assumed it was true.

That cup record is fine, not amazing, but not worth pointing out has a negative.

Let that be a lesson to you:greengrin

I've given up reading anything on here posted as factual information as so much of it turns out to be absolute mince.

[A Hi-Bee]

No chance I'd want us paying that. Not when there is a likelihood he'll be emptied within a year/18 months.

It has cost us perhaps more than that over the last 3 or 4 managers, while not saying McInnes is not a good manager, what I will say is that once a hun, always a hun.

[Lago]

No chance I'd want us paying that. Not when there is a likelihood he'll be emptied within a year/18 months.
Agree he's not worth that.

[Smartie]

It has cost us perhaps more than that over the last 3 or 4 managers, while not saying McInnes is not a good manager, what I will say is that once a hun, always a hun.

I wouldn't like to try saying that to Darren McGregor.

[blackpoolhibs]

Nobody on here has a clue what it would cost to get McInness if that's who we want.

He could have a release clause should anyone come in for him, there is nobody here who knows what it would take to get him, or even if he'd want to come.

[HoboHarry]

He signed a 3.5 year extension end of last year so is contracted to Killie until 2026.

We paid between £100-150k to Inverness ten years ago for Butcher when he only had 8 months left on his contract. I would think Killie would be looking for £4-500k.
McInnes was a fairly high profile manager when Killie got him and it's perfectly reasonable to think that he may have had release clauses built in to his contract if particular clubs wanted to to approach him.

[HoboHarry]

Nobody on here has a clue what it would cost to get McInness if that's who we want.

He could have a release clause should anyone come in for him, there is nobody here who knows what it would take to get him, or even if he'd want to come.
Exactly, I posted the same but you beat me to it.

[makaveli1875]

It has cost us perhaps more than that over the last 3 or 4 managers, while not saying McInnes is not a good manager, what I will say is that once a hun, always a hun.

I think Mr Mcinnes would beg to differ that he's a hun . He's just a guy that happened to play for them for a while . He also turned down the chance to manage them .

[A Hi-Bee]

I think Mr Mcinnes would beg to differ that he's a hun . He's just a guy that happened to play for them for a while . He also turned down the chance to manage them .
:faf: is that the same as A. Millar, said when he managed us for way longer than he should have.
A hun is a hun is a hun, we shall see the same tonight.
:greengrin

[easty]

If it cost us a couple of hundred grand to get him in, it’s be money well spent.

[Daily Hibs]

I think Mr Mcinnes would beg to differ that he's a hun . He's just a guy that happened to play for them for a while . He also turned down the chance to manage them .

I think he deserves a lot of respect for turning them down and staying put at Aberdeen with what he had built there.

Wish we could have a manager that was in a position to do that.

[LaMotta]

Nobody on here has a clue what it would cost to get McInness if that's who we want.

He could have a release clause should anyone come in for him, there is nobody here who knows what it would take to get him, or even if he'd want to come.


Exactly, I posted the same but you beat me to it.

Of course nobody knows - nobody has claimed to know, it's merely some estimates based on educated guesswork.

Its reasonable to assume a package for him overall would cost more than an out of work manager though.

[ben johnson]

Still remember his many visits to ER with Aberdeen
Dons going one up and we were then treated to his game management. Shinnie fouling with impunity
Time wasting. Feigning injury. Kicking the ball away at every foul given against. Ridiculous penalties when barely touched
It’s not how I want to see my Club behave
We can surely do better than him

[Eyrie]

Still remember his many visits to ER with Aberdeen
Dons going one up and we were then treated to his game management. Shinnie fouling with impunity
Time wasting. Feigning injury. Kicking the ball away at every foul given against. Ridiculous penalties when barely touched
It’s not how I want to see my Club behave
We can surely do better than him

I'd be delighted if a McInnes managed Hibs did that at Ibrox or Parkhead.

[Kato]

Still remember his many visits to ER with Aberdeen
Dons going one up and we were then treated to his game management. Shinnie fouling with impunity
Time wasting. Feigning injury. Kicking the ball away at every foul given against. Ridiculous penalties when barely touched
It’s not how I want to see my Club behave
We can surely do better than himAll stuff I've never seen a Hibs side get away with. We would get fouls against and booked at every opportunity.

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[LaMotta]

Still remember his many visits to ER with Aberdeen
Dons going one up and we were then treated to his game management. Shinnie fouling with impunity
Time wasting. Feigning injury. Kicking the ball away at every foul given against. Ridiculous penalties when barely touched
It’s not how I want to see my Club behave
We can surely do better than him

We've only one once at Pittodrie in a decade. If he was to pull off a few one nil wins like that up there for us we'd all be delighted.

[ben johnson]

I'd be delighted if a McInnes managed Hibs did that at Ibrox or Parkhead.

Well we have a difference of opinion as to how the game should be played
It’s not for me and not really what Hibernian are about in my opinion

[Billy Whizz]

If it is McInnes and he does well, would you take him if you knew his success would take him to Ibrox in 2 years

[CapitalGreen]

If it is McInnes and he does well, would you take him if you knew his success would take him to Ibrox in 2 years

He burnt his bridges there when he rejected them previously. The Rangers fans didn’t really want him before that and they definitely didn’t want him after it.

The risk would maybe getting poached for the Scotland job should Clarke step down.

[Skol]

If it is McInnes and he does well, would you take him if you knew his success would take him to Ibrox in 2 years

Rangers would not be interested in mcinnes unless he had a spell at hibs that was so good it was unbelievable. So that would not happen.

[Callum_62]

If it is McInnes and he does well, would you take him if you knew his success would take him to Ibrox in 2 yearsIf rangers were wanting him then it means he must've done a terrific job here so absolutely

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[jeffers]

Really don’t think it will be McInnes unfortunately, don’t think it will be Lennon either.

[S4uzee]

Really don’t think it will be McInnes unfortunately, don’t think it will be Lennon either.

Inside info?

[Fritz]

:faf: is that the same as A. Millar, said when he managed us for way longer than he should have.
A hun is a hun is a hun, we shall see the same tonight.
:greengrin

*Miller* but still, what a stupid post. Anyone, everyone using ‘hun’ as a reason not to appoint McInnes is as bad as they are.

[Lancs Harp]

Graham Arnold still being strongly linked in the Aussie press and media.

[jeffers]

Inside info?

Hints rather than anything definitive.

[JohnM1875]

Graham Arnold still be strongly linked in the Aussie press and media.

Montgomery number one for me then Arnold. Really hope it's one of the two.

[Unseen work]

Really don’t think it will be McInnes unfortunately, don’t think it will be Lennon either.

I think it will be Montgomery

[IberianHibernian]

I'd be delighted if a McInnes managed Hibs did that at Ibrox or Parkhead.We`ve won loads of time at Ibrox this century without such tactics .

[Donegal Hibby]

Hints rather than anything definitive.

Hoping your going to say the same about Robinson next :greengrin

[bod]

Still remember his many visits to ER with Aberdeen
Dons going one up and we were then treated to his game management. Shinnie fouling with impunity
Time wasting. Feigning injury. Kicking the ball away at every foul given against. Ridiculous penalties when barely touched
It’s not how I want to see my Club behave
We can surely do better than him

Like Livi did but both went away with the 3 points

[Smartie]

I think it will be Montgomery

He'd be brilliant imo and looks to me to be the candidate with the least in the minus column whilst still having plenty in the positive.

Would be my choice.

[JimBHibees]

All stuff I've never seen a Hibs side get away with. We would get fouls against and booked at every opportunity.

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Agree a Hibs player has never got away with what Shinnie has done and continues to do

[JimBHibees]

Got to be said anyone saying Mcinnes teams are boring should watch 2017 Scottish cup final against Celtic terrific game

[Just_Jimmy]

Well we have a difference of opinion as to how the game should be played
It’s not for me and not really what Hibernian are about in my opinionWhat are hibs about? It's not third place finishes and numerous cup wins and flair football...


That's just a myth.

I want to win.

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[Just_Jimmy]

If it is McInnes and he does well, would you take him if you knew his success would take him to Ibrox in 2 yearsI want a successful manager and I'm sick of clowns we end up sacking so please, give us a manager who's so successful someone poaches them for a bigger job.

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[tamig]

What are hibs about? It's not third place finishes and numerous cup wins and flair football...


That's just a myth.

I want to win.

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Exactly. What a bizarre comment. The mythical Hibs way.

[Unseen work]

Porteous and Boyle would have a dive most games and no Hibs fans seemed to mind.

If Shinnie or Ferguson played for us Hibs fans would absolutely love them, no doubt about it.

[tamig]

McInnes strikes me as being a pretty loyal guy. Unless he does have some kind of release clause, I don’t think he’d let Billy Bowie down.

[Donegal Hibby]

I think it will be Montgomery

1. Manning.
2. Arnold .
3. Montgomery. In order these would be who I'd like.

[04Sauzee]

1. Manning.
2. Arnold .
3. Montgomery. In order these would be who I'd like.

Manning has always been my pick although don't think he's been mentioned by the press.
Montgomery interests me although I think CCM have just added to their backroom team.
After the above 2 it would be McInnes

[Eyrie]

Well we have a difference of opinion as to how the game should be played
It’s not for me and not really what Hibernian are about in my opinion

That would be at Ibrox or Parkhead. It's certainly not what I would want or enjoy us doing at Easter Road or any other ground.

[Hibs1969]

I can’t believe how one-eyed some of our fans are when it comes to our next manager. That fact that McInnes played for Rangers 15/20 years ago or that he set his Aberdeen up to be difficult to beat should be neither here nor there. Folks getting their knickers in a twist about that fact that he may, if successful, head off to another club after a few years, sorry but that’s the nature of the beast I’m afraid.

The only criteria for me should be - will he do a good job for Hibs, will he make us a decent force in Scottish football again and will he help us win trophies/get into Europe regularly? Those are the factors that matter to me, the rest is just white noise. If the board think that McInnes is the man for us and is keen to make the move, they should knuckle down and get on with hiring him. If not, move on and identify another target pronto.

Personally, I’d take him at Hibs. His record at Aberdeen was excellent and he’s done a good job with Killie getting them promoted and getting off to a cracking start to the season. He knows Scottish football as well as anyone and could pretty much hit the ground running. It’s a yes from me.

[JimBHibees]

I can’t believe how one-eyed some of our fans are when it comes to our next manager. That fact that McInnes played for Rangers 15/20 years ago or that he set his Aberdeen up to be difficult to beat should be neither here nor there. Folks getting their knickers in a twist about that fact that he may, if successful, head off to another club after a few years, sorry but that’s the nature of the beast I’m afraid.

The only criteria for me should be - will he do a good job for Hibs, will he make us a decent force in Scottish football again and will he help us win trophies/get into Europe regularly? Those are the factors that matter to me, the rest is just white noise. If the board think that McInnes is the man for us and is keen to make the move, they should knuckle down and get on with hiring him. If not, move on and identify another target pronto.

Personally, I’d take him at Hibs. His record at Aberdeen was excellent and he’s done a good job with Killie getting them promoted and getting off to a cracking start to the season. He knows Scottish football as well as anyone and could pretty much hit the ground running. It’s a yes from me.

Totally agree

[Skol]

It wasn’t just the way he set up. I didnt like what he said after the games and his completely biased view on games.

One of the Johnson sacking criteria was being a slaver.

[DunblaneHibby]

Totally agree

I agree too. His record at Aberdeen was first class.
I don't think we should look backwards for a new manager

[007]

It wasn’t just the way he set up. I didnt like what he said after the games and his completely biased view on games.

One of the Johnson sacking criteria was being a slaver.

McInnes is not a slaver.

[blackpoolhibs]

It wasn’t just the way he set up. I didnt like what he said after the games and his completely biased view on games.

One of the Johnson sacking criteria was being a slaver.

He stick up for his team, but i have heard him say Hibs deserved their win against his team.

Most managers talk sheite, it's when the red arrows and lions get involved you know the manager has lost the plot.:greengrin

[Since452]

McInnes Rangers connection doesn't even register with me. He told them to GTF when he was Aberdeen manager so he's not a "walk on broken glass" type.

[CapitalGreen]

I can’t believe how one-eyed some of our fans are when it comes to our next manager. That fact that McInnes played for Rangers 15/20 years ago or that he set his Aberdeen up to be difficult to beat should be neither here nor there. Folks getting their knickers in a twist about that fact that he may, if successful, head off to another club after a few years, sorry but that’s the nature of the beast I’m afraid.

The only criteria for me should be - will he do a good job for Hibs, will he make us a decent force in Scottish football again and will he help us win trophies/get into Europe regularly? Those are the factors that matter to me, the rest is just white noise. If the board think that McInnes is the man for us and is keen to make the move, they should knuckle down and get on with hiring him. If not, move on and identify another target pronto.

Personally, I’d take him at Hibs. His record at Aberdeen was excellent and he’s done a good job with Killie getting them promoted and getting off to a cracking start to the season. He knows Scottish football as well as anyone and could pretty much hit the ground running. It’s a yes from me.

Not a dig at you but I’ve seen a few people say this that he set up his Aberdeen teams “to be difficult to beat”.

He didn’t set up his Aberdeen teams with the aim of not losing, he set up his Aberdeen teams to win. They were difficult to beat because they were a very good team led by a very good manager.

[RossScott1991]

The fact the Lennon return links are stronger makes me want Derek Mcinnes more tbh. Seems like a good guy and he’s always been very complimentary over years playing Hibs.

He’s also a far better manager than lennon and ex players working under him have always said how he’s good with players and can get involved in a prank or 2 himself in changing room.

[Hibee87]

I wonder if the lack of comment ruling himself out of the job is a positive note he would be interested if approached. He is my choice if we were able to get him.
My worry also would be that Hearts may very well be looking at a manager in the next few months, and him going there would not be something I would want.

[erin go bragh]

Got to be said anyone saying Mcinnes teams are boring should watch 2017 Scottish cup final against Celtic terrific game


I wonder if the lack of comment ruling himself out of the job is a positive note he would be interested if approached. He is my choice if we were able to get him.
My worry also would be that Hearts may very well be looking at a manager in the next few months, and him going there would not be something I would want.
Willie Miller has stated that DM would definitely be interested in the Hibs job and in his opinion, would be great for both parties.
Im definitely leaning towards him now and yes I wouldn't want him going to Hearts.

[hibsmad]

I wonder if the lack of comment ruling himself out of the job is a positive note he would be interested if approached. He is my choice if we were able to get him.
My worry also would be that Hearts may very well be looking at a manager in the next few months, and him going there would not be something I would want.

This is it for me. I’m convinced that at some stage this season, Hearts will be looking for a new manager. I’m equally convinced that if McInnes is still at Killie then he will be the guy they go for.

Hearts are a shambles at management level just now and I’m also not convinced Robson is the right man for Aberdeen. If we make the right decision and get McInnes in then we could find ourselves in a pretty good place in comparison to both of them.

[The Harp Awakes]

McInnes Rangers connection doesn't even register with me. He told them to GTF when he was Aberdeen manager so he's not a "walk on broken glass" type.

I usually wouldn't want anyone with links to that evil mob anywhere near Hibs. I'd see McInnes as an exception though as I think he is genuinely a good guy and Manager. I do worry though that Hibs fans would get on his back quickly if he went through a bad patch of form.

Lennon would be my first choice, but I'd be happy if McInnes got the job. He'd cost us compo money as well as paying off Johnson though, so I think Lennon is the more likely appointment.

[easty]

I wonder if the lack of comment ruling himself out of the job is a positive note he would be interested if approached. He is my choice if we were able to get him.
My worry also would be that Hearts may very well be looking at a manager in the next few months, and him going there would not be something I would want.

Has anybody ruled themselves out the job? Anybody at all? Has McInnes even been asked about the Hibs job by the press? I've seen nothing.

You cannae infer anything from him saying nothing.

[NC1875]

Yup, I defo think McInnes would jump at either us or Hearts.

I also think he’ll do a great job wherever he goes so ideally I’d like to see him here.

Get him on board and Let’s build something special and leave Hearts and Aberdeen behind us.

[WhileTheChief..]

I usually wouldn't want anyone with links to that evil mob anywhere near Hibs. I'd see McInnes as an exception though as I think he is genuinely a good guy and Manager. I do worry though that Hibs fans would get on his back quickly if he went through a bad patch of form.

Lennon would be my first choice, but I'd be happy if McInnes got the job. He'd cost us compo money as well as paying off Johnson though, so I think Lennon is the more likely appointment.

Agree with this and find myself hoping we go for the cheap option this time!!

[WhileTheChief..]

Has anybody ruled themselves out the job? Anybody at all? Has McInnes even been asked about the Hibs job by the press? I've seen nothing.

You cannae infer anything from him saying nothing.

Killie play Ross Co on Saturday so I'd imagine he'll be asked about the Hibs job then.

Before the game he'll say he's fully focussed on the match, after the game... who knows.

Guess he either rules himself out or leaves things open for us to approach him, I doubt he's going to apply for the job.

[Mick O'Rourke]

McInnes strikes me as being a pretty loyal guy. Unless he does have some kind of release clause, I don’t think he’d let Billy Bowie down.

You could be right there.
Leaving not just at short notice,but so early in the season ,leaves Killie in the lurch.Not good .
Could harm future options for D McInnes, if things dont turn out well with us for other clubs to have faith in and trust him.
I guess he is aware of those likelyhoods before deciding his next move,if any.
If its true he refused a job at new club govan, his motivation wont be money.
If he is content at Killie.seeing what has been going on here this past few seasons may be enough to say....no thanks !
So i think the job will go to some one who still holds his P45 at present, or a lower league guy.

The Aussie coach would be something else,indeed !

[KWJ]

1. Manning.
2. Arnold .
3. Montgomery. In order these would be who I'd like.

Is this Liam Manning at Oxford? I wasn't familiar with him, why would you want him?

[Alex Trager]

Today shows a team in wait for a quality manager. Go and get him Hibs.

Lets get up this table.