Ryan Porteous

[Donegal Hibby]

He got loaned out from Watford and he’s been dropped at PNE so it’s clearly not just the fans thinking he’s been poor.

https://wfcforums.com/index.php?threads/ryan-porteous.61308/

[Paulie Walnuts]

https://wfcforums.com/index.php?threads/ryan-porteous.61308/

That thread could have been lifted from here. He clearly doesn’t learn.

[Ribs1875]

Regardless if he splits opinion, both sides are valid. Porteous frustrated the life out of me when he was at hibs. Decision-making, aggression and intelligence was the things that prevented him ever finding true form.

End of the day, he's been the best centre back we've produced in years. The footballing ability is there, and is the reason he got to a higher level than the likes of Stevenson, Hanlon or Mcgregor ever did.

[Forza Fred]

Boyhood hibs fan didn't want to leave Aberdeen for Hibs ? Find that hard to believe

Go to his Wiki page and click on the footnotes at the bottom…number 3 I think.

I’d post it here but technically challenged

[HibbyAndy]

Go to his Wiki page and click on the footnotes at the bottom…number 3 I think.

I’d post it here but technically challenged

Good read :aok: Fair play

[nonshinyfinish]

Boyhood hibs fan didn't want to leave Aberdeen for Hibs ? Find that hard to believe

https://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2020/04/07/hibs-star-ryan-porteous-owes-easter-road-career-to-his-dad-as-he-opens-up-on-aberdeen-exit/


Although I was a massive Hibs fan I didn’t want to leave my pals and go to something new so I stuck it out at Aberdeen for another six months.

“That was until my dad said ‘listen, son, you’re going to Hibs and that’s the end of it’.

Not that odd for a kid really, would have been 12/13 at the time.

[04Sauzee]

Go to his Wiki page and click on the footnotes at the bottom…number 3 I think.

I’d post it here but technically challenged

Here's the link 👍

https://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2020/04/07/hibs-star-ryan-porteous-owes-easter-road-career-to-his-dad-as-he-opens-up-on-aberdeen-exit/

[Donegal Hibby]

That thread could have been lifted from here. He clearly doesn’t learn.

Pretty much so it would appear . He’s always had that mad moment in him you felt where he’d fly / lunge into a tackle and it doesn’t seem that as he’s matured as a player he’s learnt to cut out the rashness in his game . One thing that bugged me about him before he left was the shouting at other players he did , can be a good player on his day though I much prefer Rocky .

[WhileTheChief..]

There's no danger Ryan is coming back to Hibs.

I think you’re right but it’s a decent chat to have!

I’d also take Josh Doig back…..

[CapitalGreen]

I think you’re right but it’s a decent chat to have!

I’d also take Josh Doig back…..

Never won a derby so must be *****e

[Jock O]

That thread could have been lifted from here. He clearly doesn’t learn.

Think there is a lot more self aware humour there in among the hyperbolic exaggerations!

[BILLYHIBS]

https://wfcforums.com/index.php?threads/ryan-porteous.61308/

Interesting

[Ribs1875]

https://wfcforums.com/index.php?threads/ryan-porteous.61308/

Some interesting comments in there forum. A lot of it kinda echos the same trends we had with him. In all fairness, modern day football is difficult for any defender. You have to time you challenge to perfection or risk being booked/sent off. Porteous style of play would be more suited to that of 20 plus years ago. The lad needs to screw the nut and play with a more level head if he wants to become the best version of himself. He's has ability, but needs to mature.

[RMQ1967]

Porto made more errors than Rocky even when they were both playing together Porto being too clever getting caught in possession diving on the ball rather than clear his lines never learned kept making the same basic stupid errors on repeat blaming everyone but himself believing he was better than he actually was and that he was too good for us

There is an argument he was hounded out of Scotland

The argument is that Rocky has improved to a level of consistency that Porto never achieved in a Hibs jersey

I for one would have been devastated if Rocky had left in the summer had pace power and was still learning with loads of potential but fair to say I don’t think SDG and a few others fancied him much as they were setting up to leave Rocky third choice and out of the team

Rocky has proved them all wrong and our patience with him has paid off

Porto is yesterday’s man unless he comes back of course which I am coming round to as SDG can help cut out the stupid stuff in his game

Agree with most of this. There's a recklessness about Porto's game that he doesn't seem to be able to control.

Done well for Scotland up to a point but I don't think Steve Clarke will trust him enough to select him ever again.

Your last point is the big question - could Hibs excellent coaching staff coach that recklessness out of his game?

Somehow they've eliminated the sending offs that blighted our games in the early part of the season. Don't know how they done it but haven't seen anything close to warranting a red for a long time now.

[hibsbollah]

Agree with most of this. There's a recklessness about Porto's game that he doesn't seem to be able to control.

Done well for Scotland up to a point but I don't think Steve Clarke will trust him enough to select him ever again.

Your last point is the big question - could Hibs excellent coaching staff coach that recklessness out of his game?

Somehow they've eliminated the sending offs that blighted our games in the early part of the season. Don't know how they done it but haven't seen anything close to warranting a red for a long time now.

I think the recklessness is just his character trait. A sports psychologist might be a better need for Porteous than coaching. It was almost like he was trying to make a point that despite the red against the Germans he was going to come back and be even more reckless. Gazza would have done something similar.

[BILLYHIBS]

Agree with most of this. There's a recklessness about Porto's game that he doesn't seem to be able to control.

Done well for Scotland up to a point but I don't think Steve Clarke will trust him enough to select him ever again.

Your last point is the big question - could Hibs excellent coaching staff coach that recklessness out of his game?

Somehow they've eliminated the sending offs that blighted our games in the early part of the season. Don't know how they done it but haven't seen anything close to warranting a red for a long time now.
Yip last red was 16/2/2025 St Mirren away Alasana Manneh maybes too much too soon and short of fitness but still have high hopes for the boy next season

Would welcome Porto back with open arms but would perhaps be an admission of failure on his part and might still be able to attract better offers down South but his stock is falling and needs to kick on

Never say never

[K-Zazu]

Wouldn’t want him back, just don’t rate him at all. Can’t get a game for PNE at the bottom of the championship.

[CapitalGreen]

Wouldn’t want him back, just don’t rate him at all. Can’t get a game for PNE at the bottom of the championship.

Wait until you find out where we got Iredale from.

[Vault Boy]

SDG would have him playing the best football of his career.

[K-Zazu]

Wait until you find out where we got Iredale from.

Doesn’t really matter does it?

[Smartie]

SDG would have him playing the best football of his career.

Given what he's managed to get out of Levitt, Rocky and co, I really wouldn't rule it out.

[Billy Bunter 07]

What’s that got to do with anything? :confused:

You say people were bewildered with the fee we got for Porteous. This thread just before he left shows people were more bewildered at the fact he was getting a game - https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?359862-Porteous&p=7161605#post7161605

A couple of posters there who take offence to the slightest bit of criticism Rocky gets and make every excuse under the sun for Youan taking great delight in ripping one of our own on that thread.

[Paulie Walnuts]

A couple of posters there who take offence to the slightest bit of criticism Rocky gets and make every excuse under the sun for Youan taking great delight in ripping one of our own on that thread.

Again, not quite sure what Rocky (or Youan) have to do with Ryan Porteous but crack on.

[Billy Bunter 07]

Again, not quite sure what Rocky (or Youan) have to do with Ryan Porteous but crack on.


The clue was in the part where I said posters ripping Porteous go out their way to stick up for others.

[hibsbollah]

The clue was in the part where I said posters ripping Porteous go out their way to stick up for others.

That’s probably because different players provoke different opinions. Thats how it works.

[Mantis Toboggan]

Empty the sad yam pls

[Paulie Walnuts]

The clue was in the part where I said posters ripping Porteous go out their way to stick up for others.

That’s exactly what you’re doing.

You declared earlier that Rocky has been good for 6 months but before that he was ****. You also claimed that there’s no comparison between Rocky and Porteous. You also can’t believe people are ripping into ‘one of our own’ yet the ‘one of our own’ in question refused a contract extension, ****ed off for pennies and doesn’t play for us anymore.

Rocky is very much ‘one of our own’ seeing as he plays for us. Porteous is a Watford cast off who’s failing at Preston North End.

[Billy Bunter 07]

That’s exactly what you’re doing.

You declared earlier that Rocky has been good for 6 months but before that he was ****. You also claimed that there’s no comparison between Rocky and Porteous. You also can’t believe people are ripping into ‘one of our own’ yet the ‘one of our own’ in question refused a contract extension, ****ed off for pennies and doesn’t play for us anymore.

Rocky is very much ‘one of our own’ seeing as he plays for us. Porteous is a Watford cast off who’s failing at Preston North End.

It's not what I'm doing at all. When Rocky was poor for the majority of his time with the team I wasn't kicking about ripping him. Saying there is no comparison between the two isn't the same as the abuse that Porteous got by our own support on the thread you linked either. Porteous seems fair game being ripped into though while people are said to have some sort of agenda when bringing up Rocky being poor for us for a long period of time or saying Youan is ripping the arse out the club. Why is that? :confused:

Porteous is one of our own, and like Paul Hanlon and Lewis Stevenson it seems acceptable to rip into them more than others for some. He wanted to leave to further his career in England, just as Rocky and Youan will leave too. Just as Derek Riordan and Ian Murray left for free. It doesn't make them any less of a Hibee.

[Billy Bunter 07]

That’s probably because different players provoke different opinions. Thats how it works.

I'm not sure how it works to be honest. Not when Porteous evidently got it tight for blunders/mistakes of the same people who won't hear a word against Rocky doing so previously. Double standards to the max.

[Unseen work]

I’d be stunned if it was Porteous or Nisbet coming back.

Nisbet, imo, if both parties wanted it would have happened last summer. Him spending a year on loan at Aberdeen wouldn’t change anything imo that would make him want to come back to us or convince him to go in for him

Porteous I think would want to try stay in England or maybe a team abroad before coming back, in the end he seemed desperate to leave - just my opinion but he always seemed frustrated

Who else are likely options?

Ethan Laidlaw - Massively rated and went to Brentford but hasn’t kicked on? SDG will know him well.

Alex Gogic - Used to playing in a back 3 and would provide very good options in that department.

Dylan Tait - Playing loads at Falkirk who are top of the league? Still a young player

Will Fish - Potential option part of a back 3. Relegated with Cardiff

Liam Henderson - Fantasy stuff I’d imagine

Myziane Maolida - As above

Simon Murray - Doubt we’d get him now if we couldn’t get him in the summer. Maybe we’d be willing to up his wage massively and the option of potential European football could help international hopes?

Jason Kerr - Played for us at youth team. Similar to Murray in that the time would have been in the summer, again potential European football on offer the game changer?

Jason Cummings- On a fortune in India and just can’t see it happening

[HoboHarry]

I’d be stunned if it was Porteous or Nisbet coming back.

Nisbet, imo, if both parties wanted it would have happened last summer. Him spending a year on loan at Aberdeen wouldn’t change anything imo that would make him want to come back to us or convince him to go in for him

Porteous I think would want to try stay in England or maybe a team abroad before coming back, in the end he seemed desperate to leave - just my opinion but he always seemed frustrated

Who else are likely options?

Ethan Laidlaw - Massively rated and went to Brentford but hasn’t kicked on? SDG will know him well.

Alex Gogic - Used to playing in a back 3 and would provide very good options in that department.

Dylan Tait - Playing loads at Falkirk who are top of the league? Still a young player

Will Fish - Potential option part of a back 3. Relegated with Cardiff

Liam Henderson - Fantasy stuff I’d imagine

Myziane Maolida - As above

Simon Murray - Doubt we’d get him now if we couldn’t get him in the summer. Maybe we’d be willing to up his wage massively and the option of potential European football could help international hopes?

Jason Kerr - Played for us at youth team. Similar to Murray in that the time would have been in the summer, again potential European football on offer the game changer?

Jason Cummings- On a fortune in India and just can’t see it happening

Jamie McLaren or Jackson Irvine?

[Forza Fred]

Jamie McLaren or Jackson Irvine?

Jamie MacLaren playing alongside Jason Cummings in India and on a fortune and Jackson Irvine playing in the Bundesliega for St Pauli (although seriously injured just now) and ‘loving the club’.

[HoboHarry]

Jamie MacLaren playing alongside Jason Cummings in India and on a fortune and Jackson Irvine playing in the Bundesliega for St Pauli (although seriously injured just now) and ‘loving the club’.

I knew about Irvine but didn't realise McLaren had moved to India.

[babahibs]

I’d be stunned if it was Porteous or Nisbet coming back.

Nisbet, imo, if both parties wanted it would have happened last summer. Him spending a year on loan at Aberdeen wouldn’t change anything imo that would make him want to come back to us or convince him to go in for him

Porteous I think would want to try stay in England or maybe a team abroad before coming back, in the end he seemed desperate to leave - just my opinion but he always seemed frustrated

Who else are likely options?

Ethan Laidlaw - Massively rated and went to Brentford but hasn’t kicked on? SDG will know him well.

Alex Gogic - Used to playing in a back 3 and would provide very good options in that department.

Dylan Tait - Playing loads at Falkirk who are top of the league? Still a young player

Will Fish - Potential option part of a back 3. Relegated with Cardiff

Liam Henderson - Fantasy stuff I’d imagine

Myziane Maolida - As above

Simon Murray - Doubt we’d get him now if we couldn’t get him in the summer. Maybe we’d be willing to up his wage massively and the option of potential European football could help international hopes?

Jason Kerr - Played for us at youth team. Similar to Murray in that the time would have been in the summer, again potential European football on offer the game changer?

Jason Cummings- On a fortune in India and just can’t see it happening

Steven Fletcher?
Do the Dwight Gayle role.

[Paulie Walnuts]

It's not what I'm doing at all. When Rocky was poor for the majority of his time with the team I wasn't kicking about ripping him. Saying there is no comparison between the two isn't the same as the abuse that Porteous got by our own support on the thread you linked either. Porteous seems fair game being ripped into though while people are said to have some sort of agenda when bringing up Rocky being poor for us for a long period of time or saying Youan is ripping the arse out the club. Why is that? :confused:

Porteous is one of our own, and like Paul Hanlon and Lewis Stevenson it seems acceptable to rip into them more than others for some. He wanted to leave to further his career in England, just as Rocky and Youan will leave too. Just as Derek Riordan and Ian Murray left for free. It doesn't make them any less of a Hibee.

You’ve declared how he’s been **** the majority of his time here and also made out like he can’t possibly be compared to a guy that can’t get a game for two crap Championship teams. It’s absolutely what you’re doing.

[BILLYHIBS]

Enjoyed the Porteous v Rocky debate

My bugbear has always been ‘ Rocky has got a mistake in him’ does ma heid in as you can see that Rocky has worked hard on his game trying to eradicate his mistakes improve his positioning his left foot and heading though still not great he has also learned not to let the ball bounce after The Rangers 3-3 :greengrin

Ryan Porteous for me could have been one of the greats he had everything but lack of football game intelligence poor decision making out of control tackles and rushes of blood to the head are still part of his game he really needs to grow up mature calm down just concentrate on playing football and be the best version of himself he can be

So here is the thing fresh take I was listening to DTS and one of the guys said Porto was better than Efe and Big Daz ? :confused:

To me Efe was class looked as though he had a mistake in him but always got away with it with just an injection of pace or sublime skill just at the right time was heading for POTY when he left

Daz was just Daz solid no nonsense reliable safe as houses steady Eddie bled green pretty sure he was The Rangers POTY when he left Mordor No one messed with Big Daz cannot remember any screw ups ?

Both Efe and Daz were more solid dependable and reliable options than Porto imo

Thoughts ?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Enjoyed the Porteous v Rocky debate

My bugbear has always been ‘ Rocky has got a mistake in him’ does ma heid in as you can see that Rocky has worked hard on his game trying to eradicate his mistakes improve his positioning his left foot and heading though still not great he has also learned not to let the ball bounce after The Rangers 3-3 :greengrin

Ryan Porteous for me could have been one of the greats he had everything but lack of football game intelligence poor decision making out of control tackles and rushes of blood to the head are still part of his game he really needs to grow up mature calm down just concentrate on playing football and be the best version of himself he can be

So here is the thing fresh take I was listening to DTS and one of the guys said Porto was better than Efe and Big Daz ? :confused:

To me Efe was class looked as though he had a mistake in him but always got away with it with just an injection of pace or sublime skill just at the right time was heading for POTY when he left

Daz was just Daz solid no nonsense reliable safe as houses steady Eddie bled green pretty sure he was The Rangers POTY when he left Mordor No one messed with Big Daz cannot remember any screw ups ?

Both Efe and Daz were more solid dependable and reliable options than Porto imo

Thoughts ?

Efe was streets ahead of Porteous. I’d take McGregor over Porteous as well, as I would Hanlon.

[BILLYHIBS]

Efe was streets ahead of Porteous. I’d take McGregor over Porteous as well, as I would Hanlon.

👍

Liked Hanlon wand of a left peg

[greenpaper55]

👍

Liked Hanlon wand of a left peg
Must have missed that one !

[BILLYHIBS]

Must have missed that one !

40 yard balls LCB out to Boyle on the right wing

[Smartie]

Enjoyed the Porteous v Rocky debate

My bugbear has always been ‘ Rocky has got a mistake in him’ does ma heid in as you can see that Rocky has worked hard on his game trying to eradicate his mistakes improve his positioning his left foot and heading though still not great he has also learned not to let the ball bounce after The Rangers 3-3 :greengrin

Ryan Porteous for me could have been one of the greats he had everything but lack of football game intelligence poor decision making out of control tackles and rushes of blood to the head are still part of his game he really needs to grow up mature calm down just concentrate on playing football and be the best version of himself he can be

So here is the thing fresh take I was listening to DTS and one of the guys said Porto was better than Efe and Big Daz ? :confused:

To me Efe was class looked as though he had a mistake in him but always got away with it with just an injection of pace or sublime skill just at the right time was heading for POTY when he left

Daz was just Daz solid no nonsense reliable safe as houses steady Eddie bled green pretty sure he was The Rangers POTY when he left Mordor No one messed with Big Daz cannot remember any screw ups ?

Both Efe and Daz were more solid dependable and reliable options than Porto imo

Thoughts ?

Interesting though that it’s been highlighted how Porto and Rocky have both enjoyed excellent runs of mistake-free form when the team around them clicked.

Devil’s advocate here - has Rocky REALLY cut out the mistakes or is he just under less pressure and being put in less tight situations than when the mistakes were more frequent?

Was Porto all that much better in Ross’ team that finished third or was he just not placed in as many sticky spots as the poorer teams he played in?

[BILLYHIBS]

Interesting though that it’s been highlighted how Porto and Rocky have both enjoyed excellent runs of mistake-free form when the team around them clicked.

Devil’s advocate here - has Rocky REALLY cut out the mistakes or is he just under less pressure and being put in less tight situations than when the mistakes were more frequent?

Was Porto all that much better in Ross’ team that finished third or was he just not placed in as many sticky spots as the poorer teams he played in?

Still feel Rocky’s next mistake might be just around the corner but hopefully we can live with it same can be said for any player but maybe more so Rocky just have that feeling in my bones

The year we finished third was a weird and wonderful season played during Covid 19 no crowds so no pressure from the terraces no atmosphere but no denying a great achievement nevertheless

That Scottish Cup Final still rankles

Rocky seems to have got a handle on his mistakes and learns they are becoming less and less and not so obvious

Porteous by all accounts is still doing rash things making mistakes and just doesn’t learn

[The Modfather]

I think it’s worth thinking about the set up both Rocky and Porteous had to play in for most of their time.

Rocky mainly played in a back four on his wrong side. For all the “Hanlon is our best defender”. Would that still have been the case if he had to permanently play on the right side in a back 4?

Porteous also felt duty bound to try and do more than he should owing to having no midfield in front of him for most of his time. Often taking the ball and driving past several crab midfielders who didn’t really want the ball or to do anything more than pass it backwards.

A back 3 and a structured midfield in front of it would see most centre backs we’ve had flourish/perform better. As we’ve seen with Rocky. Think Porteous would be the same, and a real asset, playing on the right of a 3. I also think Gray could coach out the unwanted parts of Porteous’ game in that formation, like he has with Miller.

[SHODAN]

Efe was streets ahead of Porteous. I’d take McGregor over Porteous as well, as I would Hanlon.

Ambrose is the best defender I've ever seen at Hibs (missed Sauzee).

[Ribs1875]

Enjoyed the Porteous v Rocky debate

My bugbear has always been ‘ Rocky has got a mistake in him’ does ma heid in as you can see that Rocky has worked hard on his game trying to eradicate his mistakes improve his positioning his left foot and heading though still not great he has also learned not to let the ball bounce after The Rangers 3-3 :greengrin

Ryan Porteous for me could have been one of the greats he had everything but lack of football game intelligence poor decision making out of control tackles and rushes of blood to the head are still part of his game he really needs to grow up mature calm down just concentrate on playing football and be the best version of himself he can be

So here is the thing fresh take I was listening to DTS and one of the guys said Porto was better than Efe and Big Daz ? :confused:

To me Efe was class looked as though he had a mistake in him but always got away with it with just an injection of pace or sublime skill just at the right time was heading for POTY when he left

Daz was just Daz solid no nonsense reliable safe as houses steady Eddie bled green pretty sure he was The Rangers POTY when he left Mordor No one messed with Big Daz cannot remember any screw ups ?

Both Efe and Daz were more solid dependable and reliable options than Porto imo

Thoughts ?

Darren Mcgregor found his level with us, Rangers released him because he was a limited centre back and Warburton said at the time he wouldn't have suited his style of play. He got the best out of his abilities. In terms of footballer, pretty much a dying bread throwback of no nonsense win the ball and punt. He gave that extra effort, and leadership on the park for us. His achievements speak for themselves, but let's not kid ourselves on, he wasn't good enough to get a move down to the championship or an equivalent higher level.

[BILLYHIBS]

Darren Mcgregor found his level with us, Rangers released him because he was a limited centre back and Warburton said at the time he wouldn't have suited his style of play. He got the best out of his abilities. In terms of footballer, pretty much a dying bread throwback of no nonsense win the ball and punt. He gave that extra effort, and leadership on the park for us. His achievements speak for themselves, but let's not kid ourselves on, he wasn't good enough to get a move down to the championship or an equivalent higher level.

And here is me thinking The Rangers released him because another game for them would have released megabucks under his contract if they took up the option and they were skint?

Might be wrong ?

Daz was living the dream late into the senior game was more than decent with St Mirren and The Rangers picked up a few injuries along the way played for his boyhood club and won the Scottish Cup

What more could you ask for ?

Would still have him over Porto lowly Championship clubs or not ?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Ambrose is the best defender I've ever seen at Hibs (missed Sauzee).

No argument from me there, best since Sauzee in my opinion. :agree:

[ElginHibbie]

Daz was just Daz solid no nonsense reliable safe as houses steady Eddie bled green pretty sure he was The Rangers POTY when he left Mordor No one messed with Big Daz cannot remember any screw ups ?

He got a bad sending off in Europe which started a collapse in the game if I remember correctly? Though think that was probably past the stage we should have been relaying on him for a big game like that

[eastmainsmsh]

Ambrose is the best defender I've ever seen at Hibs (missed Sauzee).

The game against Asteris Efe was outstanding

[BILLYHIBS]

He got a bad sending off in Europe which started a collapse in the game if I remember correctly? Though think that was probably past the stage we should have been relaying on him for a big game like that

Yip was a sore one sent off at 1-1 in a 1-4 defeat away to Rijeka as you say was in the twilight of his Hibs career having played 188 times and scored 8 goals a tremendous servant

The own goal at Hampden versus Aberdeen springs to mind as well but hardly Darren’s fault just an unlucky deflection

Rocky the goalie almost equalised with a late effort

[Billy Bunter 07]

Empty the sad yam pls

The kind of comment post to antagonize and get a reaction out of people that leads to posters getting removed. No bite. :aok:

[Billy Bunter 07]

Still feel Rocky’s next mistake might be just around the corner but hopefully we can live with it same can be said for any player but maybe more so Rocky just have that feeling in my bones

The year we finished third was a weird and wonderful season played during Covid 19 no crowds so no pressure from the terraces no atmosphere but no denying a great achievement nevertheless

That Scottish Cup Final still rankles

Rocky seems to have got a handle on his mistakes and learns they are becoming less and less and not so obvious

Porteous by all accounts is still doing rash things making mistakes and just doesn’t learn

It will be interesting to see the level Rocky goes to if he leaves the club and if it is a higher level will errors be part of his game again. Porteous I reckon would stroll it in this team right now too.

As for your other post on Daz and Ambrose, Daz was in his prime with us and there can't be any question he was better when playing for us than Porto. Ambrose was simply different class, best defender we have had since big Sol.

[Hibernian Verse]

Daz was just Daz solid no nonsense reliable safe as houses steady Eddie bled green pretty sure he was The Rangers POTY when he left Mordor No one messed with Big Daz cannot remember any screw ups ?



Sorry to bring this up, but Scottish Cup Semi v Aberdeen 5 seconds in.

[Thatdayinmay16]

Efe was streets ahead of Porteous. I’d take McGregor over Porteous as well, as I would Hanlon.

Getting silly now. Hanlon, really?

[BILLYHIBS]

Sorry to bring this up, but Scottish Cup Semi v Aberdeen 5 seconds in.

Naw Lennon gave SJM the shout from kick off ‘ take it for a run John ‘

SJM got ambushed by three Sheep players was a knife through butter through the whole defence

Edit

Just watched it back

Bartley should have cleared poor pass from Daz

[Paulie Walnuts]

Getting silly now. Hanlon, really?

Yes, really. Hanlon was a better player for Hibs.

Bizarre that people seem so desperate to throw shade at Hibs legends whilst backing a guy to the hilt who continuously let us down, let his country down, turned down a new deal, left us for a pittance and is failing at PNE after being bombed out of Watford.

[Thatdayinmay16]

Naw Lennon gave SJM the shout from kick off ‘ take it for a run John ‘

SJM got ambushed by three Sheep players was a knife through butter through the whole defence

Blame Lennon & McGinn for the goal all you like, it doesn't excuse the fact Daz made the mistake that led to the Aberdeen player getting the ball and running through on goal.

[BILLYHIBS]

Blame Lennon & McGinn for the goal all you like, it doesn't excuse the fact Daz made the mistake that led to the Aberdeen player getting the ball and running through on goal.

See above

[BILLYHIBS]

It will be interesting to see the level Rocky goes to if he leaves the club and if it is a higher level will errors be part of his game again. Porteous I reckon would stroll it in this team right now too.

As for your other post on Daz and Ambrose, Daz was in his prime with us and there can't be any question he was better when playing for us than Porto. Ambrose was simply different class, best defender we have had since big Sol.

Porto would be great for us if he stopped dropping hand grenades everywhere

[Thatdayinmay16]

Yes, really. Hanlon was a better player for Hibs.

Regularly targeted and bullied, think he'll still wake up with nightmares about Ellis Simms targeting him and being at the heart of some of the worst hibs defences in the last 20 year.

Lets not forget the 6-6 game at Motherwell either, not sure Lukas Jutkiewicz has let him out of his pocket from that day.

[Hibs3-2]

A back 5 of cadden lredale rocky porteous cadden, would be our best back-line we’ve had since 2016 (if not better)

[Thatdayinmay16]

Yes, really. Hanlon was a better player for Hibs.

Bizarre that people seem so desperate to throw shade at Hibs legends whilst backing a guy to the hilt who continuously let us down, let his country down, turned down a new deal, left us for a pittance and is failing at PNE after being bombed out of Watford.

Not sure if this is rage bait or not but if you watched hibs from 2006 onwards then I hate to break it to you but Hanlon has let hibs down on more occasions than any other defender in recent history.

[easty]

Regularly targeted and bullied, think he'll still wake up with nightmares about Ellis Simms targeting him and being at the heart of some of the worst hibs defences in the last 20 year.

Lets not forget the 6-6 game at Motherwell either, not sure Lukas Jutkiewicz has let him out of his pocket from that day.

Won the Scottish Cup, and capped for his country. Playing over 500 games us. You need to get a grip.

The bit in bold is pure yam bollocks, and a Hibs legend should never be spoken about like that by Hibs fans.

[easty]

Not sure if this is rage bait or not but if you watched hibs from 2006 onwards then I hate to break it to you but Hanlon has let hibs down on more occasions than any other defender in recent history.

:no way:

Actually embarrassed for you.

[SickBoy32]

Regularly targeted and bullied, think he'll still wake up with nightmares about Ellis Simms targeting him and being at the heart of some of the worst hibs defences in the last 20 year.

Lets not forget the 6-6 game at Motherwell either, not sure Lukas Jutkiewicz has let him out of his pocket from that day.

Steady on mate, Hanlon was an excellent defender for the club over a number of years. Aye, he wasn’t perfect - but a good pro and solid SPL defender for us IMO.

Porteous was a great player for us too, for a couple of years. There is a bizarre anti-Porto vendetta from one poster in particular, really odd.

Bushiri has been brilliant for the last 4/5 months, however the less said about his form prior to this spell, the better. Porteous would be a great replacement for him in the summer, would love to see him back at the club 👍

[Paulie Walnuts]

Not sure if this is rage bait or not but if you watched hibs from 2006 onwards then I hate to break it to you but Hanlon has let hibs down on more occasions than any other defender in recent history.

Being 5th highest appearance holder in the clubs history will give plenty opportunity to do that.

As for rage bait, id suggest the poster who’s trying to slaughter club legends falls into that category and so im not going to get drawn into it.

[Thatdayinmay16]

Won the Scottish Cup, and capped for his country. Playing over 500 games us. You need to get a grip.

The bit in bold is pure yam bollocks, and a Hibs legend should never be spoken about like that by Hibs fans.

I need to get a grip because I brought up facts? "Yam bollocks" when someone doesn't like someone else's opinion, a common theme on this site.

He was regularly targeted. I'm not demeaning the fact he won caps for Scotland or played over 500 games for hibs.

[Thatdayinmay16]

:no way:

Actually embarrassed for you.

Couldn't care less tbf.

What I've said would be backed up if you went through a high number of his games for hibs and watched them.

[easty]

Couldn't care less tbf.

What I've said would be backed up if you went through a high number of his games for hibs and watched them.

:aok: aye you do that.

Trawling through the archives of past performances of our Scottish cup winning, Scotland capped, 5th overall appearance holder for things he did wrong. That'd be cool. :aok:

[Hibernian Verse]

Naw Lennon gave SJM the shout from kick off ‘ take it for a run John ‘

SJM got ambushed by three Sheep players was a knife through butter through the whole defence

Edit

Just watched it back

Bartley should have cleared poor pass from Daz

That's some take Billy :greengrin each to their own.

[Thatdayinmay16]

:aok: aye you do that.

Trawling through the archives of past performances of our Scottish cup winning, Scotland capped, 5th overall appearance holder for things he did wrong. That'd be cool. :aok:

Did I say I was doing it?

Good to see reading is a strong point for you. :rolleyes:

[Paulie Walnuts]

:aok: aye you do that.

Trawling through the archives of past performances of our Scottish cup winning, Scotland capped, 5th overall appearance holder for things he did wrong. That'd be cool. :aok:

:agree:

[J-C]

Ryan is now 26, he had the potential to play EPL level but is still doing the stupid stuff after all these years, not learning from his errors.

[Unseen work]

I’m surprised at some of the comments about Porteous.

Towards the end I did get a bit frustrated with him. To me though it was more like his mind was elsewhere, frustration at the club and players and him thinking he was above the level he was at.

Now that is just my opinion and I never liked the ‘don’t tut at me’ to Melkersen which loads loved at the time. Not sure how conducive that attitude is at times from big characters to younger players, especially when they make mistakes themselves.

That said Ryan was, and is, a top player. Really good defensively and on the ball. A real winner who would drag the team forward.

If there was even a chance of us getting him back we should be all over it, he’d be our captain for years to come and I think he’d improve knowing he’s here to stay and face of the club

Porteous Rocky Iredale

Would be a brilliant back 3. All 3 can win their battles physically, are mobile and good on the ball

[Centre Hawf]

Not sure if this is rage bait or not but if you watched hibs from 2006 onwards then I hate to break it to you but Hanlon has let hibs down on more occasions than any other defender in recent history.

Hibs players will let Hibs down eventually if they play long enough. It's a fact of sport that folk will make mistakes.

Efe Ambrose was one of the best defenders I've seen this century and I remember him having an absolutely torrid time away to Aberdeen one winter afternoon. It doesn't tarnish what else he did in every other game.

[LaMotta]

Darren Mcgregor found his level with us, Rangers released him because he was a limited centre back and Warburton said at the time he wouldn't have suited his style of play. He got the best out of his abilities. In terms of footballer, pretty much a dying bread throwback of no nonsense win the ball and punt. He gave that extra effort, and leadership on the park for us. His achievements speak for themselves, but let's not kid ourselves on, he wasn't good enough to get a move down to the championship or an equivalent higher level.

Funny that because Neil Lennon said Daz could have played for Celtic no problem at all.

[LaMotta]

Yip was a sore one sent off at 1-1 in a 1-4 defeat away to Rijeka as you say was in the twilight of his Hibs career having played 188 times and scored 8 goals a tremendous servant

The own goal at Hampden versus Aberdeen springs to mind as well but hardly Darren’s fault just an unlucky deflection

Rocky the goalie almost equalised with a late effort

He wasn't at fault for the deflected winner, but def for the Aberdeen opener in the 1st 30 seconds. Apart from that I only remember one bad howler, a mistake that led to Morelos scoring at Ibrox. He reedeemed himself by heading in our equaliser.

He was brilliant for us, another one who was a great character - and he performed well in derbies, vital in our 9 game unbeaten run against them.

[Thatdayinmay16]

Funny that because Neil Lennon said Daz could have played for Celtic no problem at all.
Leanne Dempster said Oli Shaw was one of the brightest talents in the world.

Daz wouldn't have played in any Celtic team in the last 20 year.

[BILLYHIBS]

That's some take Billy :greengrin each to their own.

😂

[Ribs1875]

Funny that because Neil Lennon said Daz could have played for Celtic no problem at all.

Don't recall that, but equally he is gonna say that about most of his players performing well. Let's no beat about the bush celtic have had some top centre backs. He was one of our better ones, but compared to one of their better ones then there is no comparison. The likes a Virgil, Ajer and Co are in a different league to the likes of Mcgregor and Co.

[Donegal Hibby]

Leanne Dempster said Oli Shaw was one of the brightest talents in the world.

Daz wouldn't have played in any Celtic team in the last 20 year.

Gary Caldwell and Steven McManus did .. anyhow it was thankfully a big mistake on the huns part letting him go .

[Baader]

Regularly targeted and bullied, think he'll still wake up with nightmares about Ellis Simms targeting him and being at the heart of some of the worst hibs defences in the last 20 year.

Lets not forget the 6-6 game at Motherwell either, not sure Lukas Jutkiewicz has let him out of his pocket from that day.

6-6? It was 15 years ago!

[blackpoolhibs]

I think it’s worth thinking about the set up both Rocky and Porteous had to play in for most of their time.

Rocky mainly played in a back four on his wrong side. For all the “Hanlon is our best defender”. Would that still have been the case if he had to permanently play on the right side in a back 4?

Porteous also felt duty bound to try and do more than he should owing to having no midfield in front of him for most of his time. Often taking the ball and driving past several crab midfielders who didn’t really want the ball or to do anything more than pass it backwards.

A back 3 and a structured midfield in front of it would see most centre backs we’ve had flourish/perform better. As we’ve seen with Rocky. Think Porteous would be the same, and a real asset, playing on the right of a 3. I also think Gray could coach out the unwanted parts of Porteous’ game in that formation, like he has with Miller.

Exactly. :top marks

[silverhibee]

It's not what I'm doing at all. When Rocky was poor for the majority of his time with the team I wasn't kicking about ripping him. Saying there is no comparison between the two isn't the same as the abuse that Porteous got by our own support on the thread you linked either. Porteous seems fair game being ripped into though while people are said to have some sort of agenda when bringing up Rocky being poor for us for a long period of time or saying Youan is ripping the arse out the club. Why is that? :confused:

Porteous is one of our own, and like Paul Hanlon and Lewis Stevenson it seems acceptable to rip into them more than others for some. He wanted to leave to further his career in England, just as Rocky and Youan will leave too. Just as Derek Riordan and Ian Murray left for free. It doesn't make them any less of a Hibee.

Hate to break it to you but Hibs got a fee for Derek Riordan.

[easty]

Gary Caldwell and Steven McManus did .. anyhow it was thankfully a big mistake on the huns part letting him go .

I don't think McManus was any better than Daz, but Gary Caldwell was a better centre half than both of them.

[Donegal Hibby]

I don't think McManus was any better than Daz, but Gary Caldwell was a better centre half than both of them.

Fair enough though certainly think if McManus was good enough to play for Celtic then Daz could also have too .

[Thatdayinmay16]

Gary Caldwell and Steven McManus did .. anyhow it was thankfully a big mistake on the huns part letting him go .

Caldwell was better. 55 Games for Scotland an FA Cup winners medal and multiple trophies while at Celtic not to mention his heavy English premier league experience as well.

McManus I don't really remember much of tbf, but seeing as he played in the English championship for a decent while and was capped 26 times for Scotland I'd suggest he was better.

[BILLYHIBS]

Caldwell was better. 55 Games for Scotland an FA Cup winners medal and multiple trophies while at Celtic not to mention his heavy English premier league experience as well.

McManus I don't really remember much of tbf, but seeing as he played in the English championship for a decent while and was capped 26 times for Scotland I'd suggest he was better.
Caldwell didn’t play in the FA Cup Final unused sub Fyvie did :greengrin

And Maloney

[Billy Bunter 07]

Leanne Dempster said Oli Shaw was one of the brightest talents in the world.

Daz wouldn't have played in any Celtic team in the last 20 year.

Darren McGregor in his prime or Liam Scales or Darren O'Dea? Hmm tough yin. :greengrin

[LaMotta]

Leanne Dempster said Oli Shaw was one of the brightest talents in the world.

Daz wouldn't have played in any Celtic team in the last 20 year.

Leanne Dempster isn't a football manager who has won multiple trophies in Scotland. You really need to work on some of your comparisons.

I've disagreed with almost everything you've said in this thread, and this post is no different.:aok:

[LaMotta]

Darren McGregor in his prime or Liam Scales or Darren O'Dea? Hmm tough yin. :greengrin

:agree: I mean, Josh O'Connor giving Scales the runaround at ER in el sackio.....

[Thatdayinmay16]

Caldwell didn’t play in the FA Cup Final unused sub Fyvie did :greengrin

And Maloney

Yet he still walked away with a winners medal as I mentioned.

[Thatdayinmay16]

Leanne Dempster isn't a football manager who has won multiple trophies in Scotland. You really need to work on some of your comparisons.

I've disagreed with almost everything you've said in this thread, and this post is no different.:aok:

Leanne Dempster was CEO of Hibs when we won the Scottish Cup and oversaw a very successful period for hibs. Pretty sure she has been around football for a very long time, therefore allowed an opinion on players just as much as managers and fellow pro's are.

Just as well I've disagreed with everything you've said on this thread as well.:thumbsup:

[BILLYHIBS]

Yet he still walked away with a winners medal as I mentioned.

Limped away was injured or not fully fit IIRC unused sub went up jointly to collect the trophy as he was Club captain with the playing captain on the day

Yes well done :cup::cup:

[Billy Bunter 07]

Hate to break it to you but Hibs got a fee for Derek Riordan.

They chucked a few grand at us instead of him sitting out from the summer until January through some loophole. Could have signed a new contract but decided to announce a pre-contract to celtc they day hertz won the scottish.

[Smartie]

I don't think McManus was any better than Daz, but Gary Caldwell was a better centre half than both of them.

IMO Caldwell was the worst centre half of all the centre halves mentioned in this current discussion.

That probably reflects more on how highly I rate the others but I didn't ever rate Caldwell higher than a bit above average.

Daz, Ambrose, Porto, Rocky, Hanlon, McManus - all cracking centre halves in different ways.

Caldwell won a watch having the career and reputation he had.

[Speedy]

Hibs players will let Hibs down eventually if they play long enough. It's a fact of sport that folk will make mistakes.

Efe Ambrose was one of the best defenders I've seen this century and I remember him having an absolutely torrid time away to Aberdeen one winter afternoon. It doesn't tarnish what else he did in every other game.

For me, Efe was always better in a back 3. Was never totally confident when he was in a 2.

Porto was the same but to a lesser extent. Was always more confident with Hanlon and McGregor than Hanlon and Porto. Despite Porto being a better player overall.

[JimBHibees]

Won the Scottish Cup, and capped for his country. Playing over 500 games us. You need to get a grip.

The bit in bold is pure yam bollocks, and a Hibs legend should never be spoken about like that by Hibs fans.

Think the Hibs fan bit may be stretching it

[Thatdayinmay16]

Think the Hibs fan bit may be stretching it

Ah yes the classic "He's a yam" argument when someone doesn't like someone else's opinion.

Always the sign of high IQ on this site.

[Hibernian Verse]

Ah yes the classic "He's a yam" argument when someone doesn't like someone else's opinion.

Always the sign of high IQ on this site.

You can't use the word "yam" and then challenge someone else's IQ.

One of the cringiest words that you can read on here.

[Thatdayinmay16]

You can't use the word "yam" and then challenge someone else's IQ.

One of the cringiest words that you can read on here.

Yet I'm not the one accusing others of not being hibs fans am I?

If someone's argument is calling someone else a hearts fan because they disagree with someone else's opinion then fire on.

I'd rather argue the points I'm making than lower myself to petty insults but guess that's just me. :rolleyes:

[tamig]

You can't use the word "yam" and then challenge someone else's IQ.

One of the cringiest words that you can read on here.

I think its been debated on here before. I’ve never used or heard the word used in any face to face conversations I’ve had. Only ever seen on here. I have no idea of the origins. But like you, I hate it.

[Billy Bunter 07]

I think its been debated on here before. I’ve never used or heard the word used in any face to face conversations I’ve had. Only ever seen on here. I have no idea of the origins. But like you, I hate it.

Try being called it for being new and having a difference of opinion. It's not nice at all and provokes a reaction that could see you in bother. :agree: it might not sound too bad but if the reaction/reply to it is "**** off" who is the one that gets in trouble?

[Thatdayinmay16]

Try being called it for being new and having a difference of opinion. It's not nice at all and provokes a reaction that could see you in bother. :agree: it might not sound too bad but if the reaction/reply to it is "**** off" who is the one that gets in trouble?

This was the point I was trying to make.

People think their entitled to make comments on new folk being hearts fans because they don't share the same opinion.

It's weird.

[HibbyAndy]

I think its been debated on here before. I’ve never used or heard the word used in any face to face conversations I’ve had. Only ever seen on here. I have no idea of the origins. But like you, I hate it.

Jamiehibby used to say it all the time to me :greengrin


If you're looking in Jamie hope all is well my friend :aok:

[Shrekko]

Caldwell didn’t play in the FA Cup Final unused sub Fyvie did :greengrin

And Maloney

Fyvie didnt.

[Shrekko]

Came on as a sub

He definitely didn't.

[BILLYHIBS]

He definitely didn't.
:thumbsup:

[JimBHibees]

Ah yes the classic "He's a yam" argument when someone doesn't like someone else's opinion.

Always the sign of high IQ on this site.

I didn’t say you were a yam i alluded to the fact not many Hibs fans would have such a negative opinion of a guy who played his whole career at Hibs represented the club brilliantly was capped by his country and helped us win the cup on our best day ever as your username highlights. Seems like you are a wee bit over sensitive

[green day]

I think its been debated on here before. I’ve never used or heard the word used in any face to face conversations I’ve had. Only ever seen on here. I have no idea of the origins. But like you, I hate it.

Agree 100% - I can think of half a dozen better words to describe them..................

[flash]

You can't use the word "yam" and then challenge someone else's IQ.

One of the cringiest words that you can read on here.

Bit of a first world issue there.

[Thatdayinmay16]

I didn’t say you were a yam i alluded to the fact not many Hibs fans would have such a negative opinion of a guy who played his whole career at Hibs represented the club brilliantly was capped by his country and helped us win the cup on our best day ever as your username highlights. Seems like you are a wee bit over sensitive

Because I mentioned physicality wasn't his strong point that's "such a negative opinion".

There's a list of defenders to have played for hibs over the years who aren't fit to lace hanlon's boots, just because I critiqued one aspect of his game that you didn't like, so you decided that I wasn't a hibs fan.

I think if were talking about sensitive then you should check over your previous comment.

If you'd watched hibs while he played you'd know that's the truth whether you like it or not.

[easty]

Because I mentioned physicality wasn't his strong point that's "such a negative opinion".

There's a list of defenders to have played for hibs over the years who aren't fit to lace hanlon's boots, just because I critiqued one aspect of his game that you didn't like, so you decided that I wasn't a hibs fan.

I think if were talking about sensitive then you should check over your previous comment.

If you'd watched hibs while he played you'd know that's the truth whether you like it or not.

Is that what you did, aye? :clown:

[Thatdayinmay16]

Is that what you did, aye? :clown:

If you look through the thread, yes that's what I did. :idiot:

[easty]

Regularly targeted and bullied, think he'll still wake up with nightmares about Ellis Simms targeting him and being at the heart of some of the worst hibs defences in the last 20 year.

Lets not forget the 6-6 game at Motherwell either, not sure Lukas Jutkiewicz has let him out of his pocket from that day.

"I mentioned physicality wasn't his strong point" :rolleyes:

Aye that's what you said :aok:

[Thatdayinmay16]

"I mentioned physicality wasn't his strong point" :rolleyes:

Aye that's what you said :aok:

I'm sure your old enough and ugly enough to know what folk mean when they say a centre half is being bullied in a game by an attacking player.

[easty]

I'm sure your old enough and ugly enough to know what folk mean when they say a centre half is being bullied in a game by an attacking player.

And you're young enough and stupid enough to not understand why what you said is a load of *****.



And by that I mean...'I mentioned intelligence wasn't your strongpoint' :aok:

[Thatdayinmay16]

And you're young enough and stupid enough to not understand why what you said is a load of *****.



And by that I mean...'I mentioned intelligence wasn't your strongpoint' :aok:

Grown man on the internet calling people clowns because he doesn't agree with another's opinion yet I'm the one "young enough and stupid enough", you are acting like a petulant child.

If your this angry over a comment made about an ex player of the club at this time on a Friday morning I would genuinely seek some sort of help.

[The Spaceman]

Can anyone establish the origins of “Yam”? Similarly to others, I don’t like it, almost sounds like a term of endearment. Meanwhile, they call us vermin!

[easty]

Grown man on the internet calling people clowns because he doesn't agree with another's opinion yet I'm the one "young enough and stupid enough", you are acting like a petulant child.

If your this angry over a comment made about an ex player of the club at this time on a Friday morning I would genuinely seek some sort of help.

Hibs fans forum pal. Where Hibs fans should be fans, not rinsing club legends...in my opinion like.

Each to their own. Nae tears/anger here.

[easty]

Can anyone establish the origins of “Yam”? Similarly to others, I don’t like it, almost sounds like a term of endearment. Meanwhile, they call us vermin!

I would assume it's the colour and jobby-log appearance.

[Hibernian Verse]

Can anyone establish the origins of “Yam”? Similarly to others, I don’t like it, almost sounds like a term of endearment. Meanwhile, they call us vermin!

You Whatsapped me saying Yam on 9/5/21. Enabler.

[JeMeSouviens]

Can anyone establish the origins of “Yam”? Similarly to others, I don’t like it, almost sounds like a term of endearment. Meanwhile, they call us vermin!

It's been around online for well over 20 years but can't say I've ever heard it in real life.

There was an online thing for calling them something that rhymes with jumbos but has a word often related to the residue from soap at the start of it. Think that was moderated out of use here. Guess we're just nicer people all round. :greengrin

[1875Sean]

It will be interesting to see where Ryan ends up, maybe another championship club will take a punt on him but will be a big move in the summer for him if he leaves Watford, he needs to get back playing

[Billy Bunter 07]

**** is well more apt I would say. Yam doesny sound very offensive, reminds me of a fig biscuit.

[HoboHarry]

**** is well more apt I would say. Yam doesny sound very offensive, reminds me of a fig biscuit.
To be fair, yams are part of the tuber family and Hearts fans are definitely tubes so fairly appropriate I think.

[Since452]

I have never used or heard anyone call Hearts "yams" in real life. Not once. Only on here.

[Billy Bunter 07]

To be fair, yams are part of the tuber family and Hearts fans are definitely tubes so fairly appropriate I think.

Fair point :greengrin

[FilipinoHibs]

Yam is type potatoe whose colour is close to horrible purple of Hearts strip. So a bunch of jambo spuds.

[Coco Bryce]

Porteous on the bench again for PNE

[Iain G]

**** is well more apt I would say. Yam doesny sound very offensive, reminds me of a fig biscuit.

They are a bunch of fig biscuits as well then 😁

[blackpoolhibs]

Porteous on the bench again for PNE

PNE have lost less games than a good number of the clubs above them, it's winning games they find hard to do. 19 draws this season, with 16 loses, one less than Coventry who are in the play off places in 5th. :greengrin

[renato]

Not sure if it was ever an option but Porto really would’ve benefited from a move abroad rather than the predictable move to a physical but limited league. In particular, a move to Serie A would’ve been transformative for him