Porto

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Scored for Watford today in a 2 all draw 👍💚

[JohnM1875]

Yasssss! Well in young man

[Hillsidehibby]

Doidge and Dimitri Mitchell scored today as well

[Johnny_Leith]

Doidge and Dimitri Mitchell scored today as well

Along with the above, good few ex Hibs players on the scoresheet today.

JMac (2)
Cummings (2)
Stevie Fletcher
James collins
Ruiri Paton
Matty yates

Josh Vela, Liam Fontaine and Brian Graham received red cards

[cameronw-hfc]

Josh Vela,

Now that's someone I was bitterly disappointed with. Seen him a few times before he came to us and was impressed, looked half the player we expected after he signed.

[DaveF]

Along with the above, good few ex Hibs players on the scoresheet today.

JMac (2)
Cummings (2)
Stevie Fletcher
James collins
Ruiri Paton
Matty yates

Josh Vela, Liam Fontaine and Brian Graham received red cards

I can't remember Matty Yates?

[Johnny_Leith]

I can't remember Matty Yates?


Came to us from Rangers I believe, didn't make the grade and went to Stranraer. Sure he was the pre match interview before we played them in the Scottish a couple of seasons ago.

[Johnny_Leith]

Now that's someone I was bitterly disappointed with. Seen him a few times before he came to us and was impressed, looked half the player we expected after he signed.


Think he's done quite well since going back down south. Struggled to settle up here, no doubt he's a decent player, just didn't work out for him here.

[BoltonHibee]

Now that's someone I was bitterly disappointed with. Seen him a few times before he came to us and was impressed, looked half the player we expected after he signed.

How long before he joined us did you see him play?


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[hibby rae]

Now that's someone I was bitterly disappointed with. Seen him a few times before he came to us and was impressed, looked half the player we expected after he signed.

Vela is one of the worst players I've ever seen for Hibs, still couldn't tell you what type of player he is

[cameronw-hfc]

How long before he joined us did you see him play?


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Can't remember now but remember I had seen him for Bolton a few times and was impressed. Guess the decline had been evident before he joined us?

[BoltonHibee]

Can't remember now but remember I had seen him for Bolton a few times and was impressed. Guess the decline had been evident before he joined us?

Yes, he went way off the boil. Too interested in the Billy big time bollocks and constantly out with bad influencers. He had been poor on the pitch for quite some time. Can’t remember who signed him for us but that was a shocker


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[JimBHibees]

Yes, he went way off the boil. Too interested in the Billy big time bollocks and constantly out with bad influencers. He had been poor on the pitch for quite some time. Can’t remember who signed him for us but that was a shocker


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Hecky

[NAE NOOKIE]

Scored for Watford today in a 2 all draw 👍💚

Yup, good for him. just seen it on the EFL highlights and it was a nice header. Doubt the manager will be as impressed by them chucking away a 2 goal lead though.

[Springbank]

Yup, good for him. just seen it on the EFL highlights and it was a nice header. Doubt the manager will be as impressed by them chucking away a 2 goal lead though.

Not saying its all down to Porteous leaving but we are harder to score against, now that we are doing the basics more competently at the back.

The only goal we've conceded since he took his Hollywood defending down south is a goal that var should have chalked off.

Hope Ryan reaches his potential, but a good coach will be showing him Ginelly's opener in the cup Derby, over and over, and saying him why let a ball bounce, do hearts want to get a throw (no) or to sucker you into conceding a cheap free kick (thanks Ryan), and that's before we get to the defending on the free kick itself.

We don't lose that goal if Fish plays instead & just nods the initial hoof out for a throw.

[Nicho87]

Just a coincidence Rocky and Porto are not currently in the equation just now and we look right at the back.

Might be harsh on Rocky but for to long we have over played at the back - opposition teams knew a loose pass could be on the cards from Porto and secondly press Rocky quick.

Fish and Hanlon could be just what we need. No thrill, do the basics. Clean sheet at Paisley 10/10

[500miles]

Just a coincidence Rocky and Porto are not currently in the equation just now and we look right at the back.

Might be harsh on Rocky but for to long we have over played at the back - opposition teams knew a loose pass could be on the cards from Porto and secondly press Rocky quick.

Fish and Hanlon could be just what we need. No thrill, do the basics. Clean sheet at Paisley 10/10

We're playing with an actual defensive mid, cutting out a lot more counter attacking and less susceptible on the turnover of play.

Soon we'll do what we done with Gogic, forget what he contributed to the team overall because he's mediocre on the ball, punt him and wonder why we seem so soft.

[HFC93]

Doidge's goal was very Doidge.

[OldEast]

Doidge's goal was very Doidge.

Didn't see it. Was it heading for the corner flag but hit a defender then bounced off his arse?

[HoboHarry]

We're playing with an actual defensive mid, cutting out a lot more counter attacking and less susceptible on the turnover of play.

Soon we'll do what we done with Gogic, forget what he contributed to the team overall because he's mediocre on the ball, punt him and wonder why we seem so soft.

Never ceases to amaze me how many fans don't recognize how important that role is and don't see how it impacts defenders doing their job

[Malthibby]

Didn't see it. Was it heading for the corner flag but hit a defender then bounced off his arse?

Ball bouncing around the box, heading goalwards towards the goalie who was already on the deck, Doidge followed it in & fell over the goalie with the ball going in first - I couldn't
see any contact but he was given it so must have touched it. Classic Doidge.

[Iain G]

Yup, good for him. just seen it on the EFL highlights and it was a nice header. Doubt the manager will be as impressed by them chucking away a 2 goal lead though.

I think he is best suited to a back 3, he can sweep and bring the ball out from the back and push into a midfield position to get the ball forward. In a back 2 he leaves his partner a little over exposed perhaps?

[Donegal Hibby]

For somebody like Ryan Porteous who's left a club playing top flight football to join a club in another country playing in its 2nd league and might not get into the top league he could at least show the league he's left a bit of respect without trying to degrade it . Sadly becoming a very big headed individual and I've gone right off him in the way he's acted before and after he's left .

[Hibbyradge]

For somebody like Ryan Porteous who's left a club playing top flight football to join a club in another country playing in its 2nd league and might not get into the top league he could at least show the league he's left a bit of respect without trying to degrade it . Sadly becoming a very big headed individual and I've gone right off him in the way he's acted before and after he's left .

What did he say?

[04Sauzee]

For somebody like Ryan Porteous who's left a club playing top flight football to join a club in another country playing in its 2nd league and might not get into the top league he could at least show the league he's left a bit of respect without trying to degrade it . Sadly becoming a very big headed individual and I've gone right off him in the way he's acted before and after he's left .
Maybe playing against Reading the quality was a but better than St Mirren and Ross County? He's getting good money from Watford he's OK to play up to their fanbase.

[Bridge hibs]

What did he say?

Porteous claims the standard in the English Championship is much higher

"It was good," Porteous said. "I think the tempo is pretty similar to Scotland. I think the quality is a lot better.

"I enjoyed it. It's end-to-end stuff. As I said, it's pretty similar to what I've been used to so hopefully I can gel in quite nice."

[Donegal Hibby]

What did he say?
Just saying the quality much higher , harder league and so on . Don't think there's any call to downgrade the league he's left personally.

[JohnM1875]

Porteous claims the standard in the English Championship is much higher

"It was good," Porteous said. "I think the tempo is pretty similar to Scotland. I think the quality is a lot better.

"I enjoyed it. It's end-to-end stuff. As I said, it's pretty similar to what I've been used to so hopefully I can gel in quite nice."

Absolutely nothing in that comment at all in my opinion.

[green day]

For somebody like Ryan Porteous who's left a club playing top flight football to join a club in another country playing in its 2nd league and might not get into the top league he could at least show the league he's left a bit of respect without trying to degrade it . Sadly becoming a very big headed individual and I've gone right off him in the way he's acted before and after he's left .
Championship does have higher quality than the Premiership up here, simply as they have more money.

It's not exactly rocket science.

[Cat Stanton]

Didn't see it. Was it heading for the corner flag but hit a defender then bounced off his arse?

He Doidged it over the line.

[heretoday]

Absolutely nothing in that comment at all in my opinion.

Of course. He's only telling it as he sees it.

Personally, I'd say the quality and fitness of the championship teams is a good deal higher than our premier league. There's some big old clubs in there with more resources than most of our lot.

The Old Firm might compete but the rest of us would finish middle or lower at the end of the season.

[Since452]

Yes, he went way off the boil. Too interested in the Billy big time bollocks and constantly out with bad influencers. He had been poor on the pitch for quite some time. Can’t remember who signed him for us but that was a shocker


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I thought you were describing Porteous there.

[Hibbyradge]

I thought you were describing Porteous there.

:tee hee:

[Since452]

Porteous claims the standard in the English Championship is much higher

"It was good," Porteous said. "I think the tempo is pretty similar to Scotland. I think the quality is a lot better.

"I enjoyed it. It's end-to-end stuff. As I said, it's pretty similar to what I've been used to so hopefully I can gel in quite nice."

If the quality is a lot better then he better not make the same poor decisions he made up here then.

[Donegal Hibby]

Championship does have higher quality than the Premiership up here, simply as they have more money.

It's not exactly rocket science.
I hardly see Rotherham, Blackpool , Millwall and a few others as a higher quality than Hibs , hearts and Aberdeen even at the top of the championship I'd say both Celtic and sevco have more quality than them . Think everyone knows there is more money pumped into English football by Sky at this stage . If it wasn't for playing for Hibs and in the Scottish premier league he wouldn't have developed into the good player he's become and he should have respect for this fact . He could have said he always wanted to play in England as it's the best league in the world ( I wouldn't mind that ) but to praise one and belittle the other is just another situation Porteous has handled very badly imo.

[Shrekko]

Porto should do well in his career as he has everything you’d want from a modern defender.

At SPFL level though I prefer old fashioned centre halfs like Will Fish.

Paul Hanlon has also reverted to just doing the basics and our new defensive midfielder is offering fantastic protection.

Trying to play like Man City from the back isn’t even working for Man City these days so I’m glad we’re going back to keeping it simple.

Porto could pick out the occasional good pass but watching Rocky control the ball, take umpteen touches to gain 5 yards so he could pass it back or square is painful to watch IMO.

[blackpoolhibs]

I hardly see Rotherham, Blackpool , Millwall and a few others as a higher quality than Hibs , hearts and Aberdeen even at the top of the championship I'd say both Celtic and sevco have more quality than them . Think everyone knows there is more money pumped into English football by Sky at this stage . If it wasn't for playing for Hibs and in the Scottish premier league he wouldn't have developed into the good player he's become and he should have respect for this fact . He could have said he always wanted to play in England as it's the best league in the world ( I wouldn't mind that ) but to praise one and belittle the other is just another situation Porteous has handled very badly imo.

I've never played in the SPFL or the Championship in England, but to the untrained eye, for me the English Championship is much better than the SPFL bar the obvious two.

That's not belittleing the SPFL, it's stating what i believe to be the truth, Blackpool would piss all over Aberdeen, as would Milwall. Kilmarnock would lose to Rotherham.

Hibs could get humped from most teams in that league, or we could win a few, but i can tell you with clear certainty, we'd be nowhere near 5th place where we are now,we would struggle most weeks.

[JimBHibees]

I've never played in the SPFL or the Championship in England, but to the untrained eye, for me the English Championship is much better than the SPFL bar the obvious two.

That's not belittleing the SPFL, it's stating what i believe to be the truth, Blackpool would piss all over Aberdeen, as would Milwall. Kilmarnock would lose to Rotherham.

Hibs could get humped from most teams in that league, or we could win a few, but i can tell you with clear certainty, we'd be nowhere near 5th place where we are now,we would struggle most weeks.

Absolutely accurate with that summary Championship is significantly better standard.

[Donegal Hibby]

I've never played in the SPFL or the Championship in England, but to the untrained eye, for me the English Championship is much better than the SPFL bar the obvious two.

That's not belittleing the SPFL, it's stating what i believe to be the truth, Blackpool would piss all over Aberdeen, as would Milwall. Kilmarnock would lose to Rotherham.

Hibs could get humped from most teams in that league, or we could win a few, but i can tell you with clear certainty, we'd be nowhere near 5th place where we are now,we would struggle most weeks.
Forgot about you when I mentioned Blackpool btw 😂 . seriously though imo yes the top 4 , 5 or 6 teams in the English championship are good sides but once you come out of that there's a lot of dross in it as well and I'd be very confident that Hibs ,hertz and Aberdeen in the English championship getting the same money would do very well we are all bigger clubs than Rotherham ( average att . 10, 385 ) , Blackpool ( average att 12 , 171 ) no disrespect but don't forget we got dimitri Mitchell of Blackpool who was there for two years and was nothing special coming from the championship.Even Luton town who's going well only plays Infront of just over 9,000 . I seriously wouldn't be worried one bit if Hibs faced any of these teams even now .

I still think there was no need for Porteous remarks and he could have said nothing about the league rather degrading it just to endear himself to the Watford fans , wouldn't be surprised if he kissed the badge when he scored too . For me he handled the whole scenario at us badly and this is another one as well . It was said when he left we lost our best defender which is true though for weeks before he left he was playing badly and making mistakes that was costing us and at the time I actually thought rocky was our best defender. I noticed he was doing a lot of shouting at players and falling down trying to get free kicks at times when he wasn't being foul . Personally think his ego has gotten to big for him . Really took a dislike to him and putting him in with kamberi , Thompson , Murray bracket.

[Clarence]

Vela is one of the worst players I've ever seen for Hibs, still couldn't tell you what type of player he is

A no very good one. All jokes aside, he was disappointing.

[Smartie]

It’s better for all parties that he is where he is.

He’s happier and significantly richer, Watford get a player who is capable of better than he was ever going to show for us, we move on and get a player with a bit more humility and who appreciates playing for Hibs, even if just on loan.

Win, win, win and no party can really pass comment without inadvertently trashing another.

To the future…

[Leith Green]

I've never played in the SPFL or the Championship in England, but to the untrained eye, for me the English Championship is much better than the SPFL bar the obvious two.

That's not belittleing the SPFL, it's stating what i believe to be the truth, Blackpool would piss all over Aberdeen, as would Milwall. Kilmarnock would lose to Rotherham.

Hibs could get humped from most teams in that league, or we could win a few, but i can tell you with clear certainty, we'd be nowhere near 5th place where we are now,we would struggle most weeks.



I wonder how the really good sides we have had since millennium have compared against English standards, mcleish early 2000s , Mowbray mid naughties , lennons 2nd season….

I wonder how they would have fared in either the English premiership or English championship , over the course of a season??

[Leith Green]

Hecky


Think it was a Heckinbottom signing, im pretty sure though that Lennon had wanted him the season before.. So possibly identified by Lennon and signed during Heckys short lived reign at the helm

[blackpoolhibs]

Forgot about you when I mentioned Blackpool btw 😂 . seriously though imo yes the top 4 , 5 or 6 teams in the English championship are good sides but once you come out of that there's a lot of dross in it as well and I'd be very confident that Hibs ,hertz and Aberdeen in the English championship getting the same money would do very well we are all bigger clubs than Rotherham ( average att . 10, 385 ) , Blackpool ( average att 12 , 171 ) no disrespect but don't forget we got dimitri Mitchell of Blackpool who was there for two years and was nothing special coming from the championship.Even Luton town who's going well only plays Infront of just over 9,000 . I seriously wouldn't be worried one bit if Hibs faced any of these teams even now .

I still think there was no need for Porteous remarks and he could have said nothing about the league rather degrading it just to endear himself to the Watford fans , wouldn't be surprised if he kissed the badge when he scored too . For me he handled the whole scenario at us badly and this is another one as well . It was said when he left we lost our best defender which is true though for weeks before he left he was playing badly and making mistakes that was costing us and at the time I actually thought rocky was our best defender. I noticed he was doing a lot of shouting at players and falling down trying to get free kicks at times when he wasn't being foul . Personally think his ego has gotten to big for him . Really took a dislike to him and putting him in with kamberi , Thompson , Murray bracket.

Ah but you never mentioned the money, i agree if we had the same money that pours into that league we could be competative.

Alas we dont, and probably never will, and that's why i said what i did. Crowd size makes no difference when you recieve as much as they do in that league, and Mitchell was hardly playing when we signed him, in fact i actually said he'd be a waste of time if we signed him when the rumour started.

Clubs in that league have much better quality in reserve too, it's just a clearly better standard.

Now League one we can talk.

[Brightside]

Think it was a Heckinbottom signing, im pretty sure though that Lennon had wanted him the season before.. So possibly identified by Lennon and signed during Heckys short lived reign at the helm

That’s correct. Lennon tried to get him before Hecky.

[Donegal Hibby]

Ah but you never mentioned the money, i agree if we had the same money that pours into that league we could be competative.

Alas we dont, and probably never will, and that's why i said what i did. Crowd size makes no difference when you recieve as much as they do in that league, and Mitchell was hardly playing when we signed him, in fact i actually said he'd be a waste of time if we signed him when the rumour started.

Clubs in that league have much better quality in reserve too, it's just a clearly better standard.

Now League one we can talk.
There's no way I'm letting you away with comparing us to league 1sides btw not a hope 😂. Crowd size probably doesn't make any difference though does show we are a bigger club with a bigger stadium and better training facilities ( a club with a higher profile) . No disrespect to anyone but I look on clubs like Rotherham , Luton , Blackpool and a few others as. Yo- yo clubs in the championship. The English transfer market is crazy with players valuation much higher than it should be which is why I'd argue the quality of players isn't as far ahead as you think it is with most of these clubs generally looking at the Scottish Market for good quality Scottish players at a cheaper price . Think Blackpool's no 1 keeper is ex Hibby Chris Maxwell ? Then you have guys like James Scott , Duncan watmore , Oliver burke but to name a few who play in the championship and none would get into the Hibs first team imo . Quite funny " A Irish man defending Scottish football and a Scotsman that thinks English footballs better ! Must be something in the water 😂

[gbhibby]

The English Championship is one of the biggest leagues financially in Europe. Ryan making a comment based on playing one game should be taken with a pinch of salt. There is a lot of dross in the English Championship
There are players who have played up here and been bang average but have excelled in the Championship so you could make an argument that the reason they excel is because they are playing in a poorer league. You have a counter argument that players from the championship have done well up here.
You would have to have regular fixtures between our top division the championship teams to be able to make a judgement.

[pacoluna]

Typical porteous, Scores one but concedes two.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Comparing the Scottish premier league with the EFL Championship is comparing apples with oranges. If the EFL Championship wasn't a better league in quality of player than our top league it would have to be being run by absolute morons.

Practically every club comes from a city or town with a catchment area at least as big as Aberdeen, some far far bigger, FFS Norwich city are the only professional club in a county of over 2 million people. The television and sponsorship money is far far bigger. Every season the league is joined by 3 clubs with parachute payments that would make even Celtic's bankers jump for joy.

When you look at the money available to Scottish football and the populations most of our clubs have to draw support from its an absolute miracle that we have near on 20 full time clubs at all. I can't wait for Porto's next pronouncement that the sky is blue or the sea is wet.

[BILLYHIBS]

Porto needs to button it and just concentrate on his own game

He wasn’t in the best of form when he left us

It will be interesting to see how he gets on

I wish him every success in his career

[RIP]

Hecky

Lennon pick! Was one of his Golden Boys and told Mathie he'd be a great fit for Hibs.

From Stubbs till now, the recruitment team were the ones identifying players and recommending them to head coaches.

The last manager who had accountability for signings was Terry Butcher

[uwxm07]

The English Championship is one of the biggest leagues financially in Europe. Ryan making a comment based on playing one game should be taken with a pinch of salt. There is a lot of dross in the English Championship
There are players who have played up here and been bang average but have excelled in the Championship so you could make an argument that the reason they excel is because they are playing in a poorer league. You have a counter argument that players from the championship have done well up here.
You would have to have regular fixtures between our top division the championship teams to be able to make a judgement.

Just watched his goal from the corner & while it’s a nice header, I doubt he would have got the space and freedom in the SPL - blocked every time.
Reading defence were “statuesque”

https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11095/12801909/reading-2-2-watford-royals-score-twice-late-on-to-earn-a-point

[Hibbyradge]

Lennon pick! Was one of his Golden Boys and told Mathie he'd be a great fit for Hibs.

From Stubbs till now, the recruitment team were the ones identifying players and recommending them to head coaches.

The last manager who had accountability for signings was Terry Butcher

Wasn't it Maloney who signed Rocky? :dunno:

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Wasn't it Maloney who signed Rocky? :dunno:

Yeah it was


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[uwxm07]

The English Championship is one of the biggest leagues financially in Europe. Ryan making a comment based on playing one game should be taken with a pinch of salt. There is a lot of dross in the English Championship
There are players who have played up here and been bang average but have excelled in the Championship so you could make an argument that the reason they excel is because they are playing in a poorer league. You have a counter argument that players from the championship have done well up here.
You would have to have regular fixtures between our top division the championship teams to be able to make a judgement.

Just watched his goal from the corner & while it’s a nice header, I doubt he would have got the space and freedom in the SPL - blocked every time.
Reading defence were “statuesque”

https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11095/12801909/reading-2-2-watford-royals-score-twice-late-on-to-earn-a-point

[MWHIBBIES]

Typical porteous, Scores one but concedes two.

Hibs have had the 3rd best defence in the league the last 2 years he's been a nailed on starter. This season not so much of course, but especially the season we finished 3rd we were excellent at the back.

[MWHIBBIES]

Just watched his goal from the corner & while it’s a nice header, I doubt he would have got the space and freedom in the SPL - blocked every time.
Reading defence were “statuesque”

https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11095/12801909/reading-2-2-watford-royals-score-twice-late-on-to-earn-a-point

He literally got that space a month ago at Ibrox.

[Libby Hibby]

He literally got that space a month ago at Ibrox.

And v Aberdeen last season

[Hibernian Verse]

Forgot about you when I mentioned Blackpool btw 😂 . seriously though imo yes the top 4 , 5 or 6 teams in the English championship are good sides but once you come out of that there's a lot of dross in it as well and I'd be very confident that Hibs ,hertz and Aberdeen in the English championship getting the same money would do very well we are all bigger clubs than Rotherham ( average att . 10, 385 ) , Blackpool ( average att 12 , 171 ) no disrespect but don't forget we got dimitri Mitchell of Blackpool who was there for two years and was nothing special coming from the championship.Even Luton town who's going well only plays Infront of just over 9,000 . I seriously wouldn't be worried one bit if Hibs faced any of these teams even now .

I still think there was no need for Porteous remarks and he could have said nothing about the league rather degrading it just to endear himself to the Watford fans , wouldn't be surprised if he kissed the badge when he scored too . For me he handled the whole scenario at us badly and this is another one as well . It was said when he left we lost our best defender which is true though for weeks before he left he was playing badly and making mistakes that was costing us and at the time I actually thought rocky was our best defender. I noticed he was doing a lot of shouting at players and falling down trying to get free kicks at times when he wasn't being foul . Personally think his ego has gotten to big for him . Really took a dislike to him and putting him in with kamberi , Thompson , Murray bracket.

You're getting confused between bigger and better.

If Hibs played Bournemouth in their 10k seater stadium we'd still get pumped. They simply have too much money for us to compete for players and, in turn, have better squads.

[Donegal Hibby]

You're getting confused between bigger and better.

If Hibs played Bournemouth in their 10k seater stadium we'd still get pumped. They simply have too much money for us to compete for players and, in turn, have better squads.
Not confused at all , didn't mention better which I know they are though that doesn't get away from the fact Hibs are a bigger club . If Bournemouth was up in Scotland getting the money we are getting there's also case for we would pump them as well . A club like Bournemouth with a 10k seater stadium that's paying a player £130,000 a week aren't generating there own money but getting it from sky and the league. They are a tin pot club in that league and will eventually get relegated .


Anyhow I couldn't careless about Bournemouth or the English championship and as a hibby i would rather watch a Hibs v Aberdeen or any Scottish premier game as supposed to Bournemouth v crystal palace or Rotherham v Millwall game any day of the week . Mega rich league with a lot of dross in it as well .

This all started because Porteous had to have a comment about it and while some say on here there was nothing in it , I felt he didn't have to say anything that was negative about the Scottish premier league that had helped him in his career so far . Some even say they look forward to his next comments which is fair enough if your a Ryan Porteous fan though it would be in his own interest to get the head down and focus on the league he's in now rather than being a mouth piece . If he plays for Watford like he did at the end for us he will soon be dropped. Went totally off the guy for numerous reasons and couldn't careless how he does in his career in England now.

[BILLYHIBS]

Needs to play every game for Watford like his Scotland debut

I thought he was totally outstanding that night totally focused and concentrated for the full ninety minutes

His best performance of the season

Could not have been easy for him with all the usual suspects expecting him to f#ck up

Onwards and upwards Porto

[TheSouthMoroccan]

Not confused at all , didn't mention better which I know they are though that doesn't get away from the fact Hibs are a bigger club . If Bournemouth was up in Scotland getting the money we are getting there's also case for we would pump them as well . A club like Bournemouth with a 10k seater stadium that's paying a player £130,000 a week aren't generating there own money but getting it from sky and the league. They are a tin pot club in that league and will eventually get relegated .


Anyhow I couldn't careless about Bournemouth or the English championship and as a hibby i would rather watch a Hibs v Aberdeen or any Scottish premier game as supposed to Bournemouth v crystal palace or Rotherham v Millwall game any day of the week . Mega rich league with a lot of dross in it as well .

This all started because Porteous had to have a comment about it and while some say on here there was nothing in it , I felt he didn't have to say anything that was negative about the Scottish premier league that had helped him in his career so far . Some even say they look forward to his next comments which is fair enough if your a Ryan Porteous fan though it would be in his own interest to get the head down and focus on the league he's in now rather than being a mouth piece . If he plays for Watford like he did at the end for us he will soon be dropped. Went totally off the guy for numerous reasons and couldn't careless how he does in his career in England now.

Your last paragraph is pretty much where I'm at with him. Was a fan because he was a Hibee but in the end I was glad to see the back of him, too much billy big bollocks towards the end, I hated seeing the arm waving when looking for a pass, and his mistakes cost us goals. It feels tidier at the back since his departure. His negative comment about Scottish football just the icing on the cake.

[gbhibby]

Some Watford fans are rating Porto as the best centre half they have had at the club for a number of years.

[MWHIBBIES]

Some Watford fans are rating Porto as the best centre half they have had at the club for a number of years.

Not surprise really. He is absolute quality.

[gbhibby]

Not surprise really. He is absolute quality.
Too good for that league.

[jacomo]

We're playing with an actual defensive mid, cutting out a lot more counter attacking and less susceptible on the turnover of play.

Soon we'll do what we done with Gogic, forget what he contributed to the team overall because he's mediocre on the ball, punt him and wonder why we seem so soft.


It’s inevitable, alongside the ‘not the player to take us where we want to be’ patter.

Where we want to be is consistently a top 4 side in both league and cups. Next time we look like doing that, how about sticking with it rather than moaning and demanding change folks?

[jacomo]

Too good for that league.


If the Scottish Premiership was anywhere near the level of the English championship it would be a lot better than it is currently.

[bod]

Some Watford fans are rating Porto as the best centre half they have had at the club for a number of years.

After 2 or 3 games ? 😂
Let’s hope they’re still thinking that next season

[Smartie]

Not surprise really. He is absolute quality.

He can be.

Just wait until he thinks he should be playing in the Champions League. If he remains focussed and consistent at that point then fine.

Porteous’ weakness is between his ears, if he can sort that out then he is capable of being a top player.

I just remember what I thought of Ryan McGivern after only a couple of matches.

[A Hi-Bee]

Some Watford fans are rating Porto as the best centre half they have had at the club for a number of years.

Only, thing that I am surprised with is that anyone could be surprised by this statement.
He was the best young centre half we had at Hibs for many years.
:thumbsup:

[Smartie]

Only, thing that I am surprised with is that anyone could be surprised by this statement.
He was the best young centre half we had at Hibs for many years.
:thumbsup:

Sometimes.

[neil7908]

After 2 or 3 games ? 😂
Let’s hope they’re still thinking that next season

Yup. Very bizarre judgement to make after such a short space of time.

Let's see how they feel after 30 games - that will give us a much better idea.

[blackpoolhibs]

Porto is Quality, best centre half we've had in a very long time.:top marks

[Crunchie]

Porto is Quality, best centre half we've had in a very long time.:top marks
Since Rob Jones.

[heretoday]

He can be.

Just wait until he thinks he should be playing in the Champions League. If he remains focussed and consistent at that point then fine.

Porteous’ weakness is between his ears, if he can sort that out then he is capable of being a top player.

I just remember what I thought of Ryan McGivern after only a couple of matches.

Ryan McGivern. I'm going to have to go back into rehab now.
Thanks.

[MWHIBBIES]

He can be.

Just wait until he thinks he should be playing in the Champions League. If he remains focussed and consistent at that point then fine.

Porteous’ weakness is between his ears, if he can sort that out then he is capable of being a top player.

I just remember what I thought of Ryan McGivern after only a couple of matches.

It was never just a poor performance or a mistake with Ryan, always him thinking he was too good. Certainly no player ever brought out as many hibs.net phycologists.

His quality was pretty obvious. Few mistakes yeah, but never as many as folk pretended. Similar to Ambrose actually. Efe and Ryan made less mistakes than McGregor, Gray, Hanlon etc, but their higher risk playstyle terrified our "kick it in the ****ing stand" fans.

[MWHIBBIES]

Since Rob Jones.

Ambrose and Bamba were both better than Jones imo. He was an excellent defender, but they had much more class and ability.

[BILLYHIBS]

Ambrose and Bamba were both better than Jones imo. He was an excellent defender, but they had much more class and ability.

Rob Jones scored more Hibs goals than Bamba and Ambrose put together often being used as an emergency striker with memorable goals against the Jambo’s and in a winning Cup Final when we needed it most

Anyway what did the Roman’ s do for us ?

[SlickShoes]

It was never just a poor performance or a mistake with Ryan, always him thinking he was too good. Certainly no player ever brought out as many hibs.net phycologists.

His quality was pretty obvious. Few mistakes yeah, but never as many as folk pretended. Similar to Ambrose actually. Efe and Ryan made less mistakes than McGregor, Gray, Hanlon etc, but their higher risk playstyle terrified our "kick it in the ****ing stand" fans.

Can you provide the stats on that? or is your comparison that two players made less mistakes then 4 or 5 players?

Ryan made multiple huge errors last season and was still making errors this season when he seemingly wasn't focused.

[Smartie]

It was never just a poor performance or a mistake with Ryan, always him thinking he was too good. Certainly no player ever brought out as many hibs.net phycologists.

His quality was pretty obvious. Few mistakes yeah, but never as many as folk pretended. Similar to Ambrose actually. Efe and Ryan made less mistakes than McGregor, Gray, Hanlon etc, but their higher risk playstyle terrified our "kick it in the ****ing stand" fans.

I actually thought he was our most error prone centre half by a distance and the distance between his highest and lowest level of performance was quite drastic. The mistakes often looked avoidable and were frequent enough to suggest some sort of attitude issue.

We already look better defensively since he left.

And knowing when to play and when to put it into the stand is part of what makes a good centre half, and something he’ll need to improve if he’s going to be a sustained success at Watford.

FWIW I think he’ll do very well now he’s getting paid more and somewhere he doesn’t just waltz back into the team after every mistake and suspension.

I won’t remember him as fondly as his ability really deserved.

[J-C]

Porto is Quality, best centre half we've had in a very long time.:top marks

On his day he was the best CH in this league, still prone to the odd gaff but they were few and far between, I think his head was gone this season when he decided it was time to move on, I expect he thought his move might have been last summer and not in January.

[Since452]

Some Watford fans are rating Porto as the best centre half they have had at the club for a number of years.

I feel the same way about Will Fish.

[MWHIBBIES]

Can you provide the stats on that? or is your comparison that two players made less mistakes then 4 or 5 players?

Ryan made multiple huge errors last season and was still making errors this season when he seemingly wasn't focused.

Certainly no comparison between any of them and Ambrose. He was by far our least error prone defender when he was here. Excellent player.

Ryan made more than that, but IMO, never anything like folk made out. He offered much more offensively than others as well. Some incredible passes, scored a decent amount of goals too. His passes for Youan vs Motherwell and Boyle vs Kilmarnock won us the matches this season.

[OldEast]

Some Watford fans are rating Porto as the best centre half they have had at the club for a number of years.

He'll still be the new boy and probably not got all cocky and shouty yet. For his sake I hope that's all behind him.

[gbhibby]

He'll still be the new boy and probably not got all cocky and shouty yet. For his sake I hope that's all behind him.
They seem to love it that he is shouty.

[OldEast]

They seem to love it that he is shouty.

Oh well I stand corrected. I'm not interested enough to have watched him since he left.

[blackpoolhibs]

Since Rob Jones.

Not for me, Sol Bamba was quality too, but obviously he was a bomb scare too, even though he wasn't, so for me Porto was the best since him.

And a special mention for Efe Ambrose, another quality player.

[1van Sprou7e]

Do we have a sell-on clause?

[Coach Jon]

Ambrose and Bamba were both better than Jones imo. He was an excellent defender, but they had much more class and ability.

Rob Jones was the best Centre Back I can remember in a Hibs Jersey, and thats going back to the sixties.

[CentreLine]

Rob Jones was the best Centre Back I can remember in a Hibs Jersey, and thats going back to the sixties.

What? Better than big bad John? 😖

[blackpoolhibs]

Rob Jones was the best Centre Back I can remember in a Hibs Jersey, and thats going back to the sixties.

Rob was very good for us, i'd have nightmares thinking about him behind that midfield.

[BILLYHIBS]

Ah Big Bad John McNamee

‘ They shall not pass !’

Jock Stein’s first signing for Hibs

They don’t make them like him anymore

[A Hi-Bee]

Ah Big Bad John McNamee

‘ They shall not pass !’

Jock Stein’s first signing for Hibs

They don’t make them like him anymore

Now, he was a centre half, John Madsen and the much maligned Jim Black were very good as well.

[Smartie]

Certainly no comparison between any of them and Ambrose. He was by far our least error prone defender when he was here. Excellent player.

Ryan made more than that, but IMO, never anything like folk made out. He offered much more offensively than others as well. Some incredible passes, scored a decent amount of goals too. His passes for Youan vs Motherwell and Boyle vs Kilmarnock won us the matches this season.

Ambrose was outstanding for us and if anything a bit under appreciated.

[A Hi-Bee]

Rob Jones was the best Centre Back I can remember in a Hibs Jersey, and thats going back to the sixties.

Rab Jones was a bombscare when he first got to Hibs, he came on to a good game, as he was a good age for a centre half, so Porto has lots of time to learn.
In my humble opinion of course.
:thumbsup:

[May21/05/216]

The best centre half was sloop

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[MKHIBEE]

Now, he was a centre half, John Madsen and the much maligned Jim Black were very good as well.
That’s not how I remember Jim Black, thought he was average.

[Franck Stanton]

The best centre half was sloop

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Sloop, to my memory, was a sweeper Jim Black was the centre half.

[Stairway 2 7]

Replies to Watfords tweet about him are fawning.

"Best centre back performance I've seen in years"

https://mobile.twitter.com/WatfordFC/status/1624825241594695681

[eastterrace]

That’s not how I remember Jim Black, thought he was average.
I thought he was below average the weak link in the team with the goalie as well.

[eastterrace]

Sloop, to my memory, was a sweeper Jim Black was the centre half.:thumbsup:

[A Hi-Bee]

I thought he was below average the weak link in the team with the goalie as well.

Yawn, its been done to death by now, but we awe have our opinions.:greengrin Goalie was Jim Herriot, he done us o.k. may even have played for Scotland at one time cannie remember. (Just seen he had 8 caps, so no too shabby)
Porto is still a very good young centre half.
:greengrin

[Winston Ingram]

Gordon Hunter was one of the best I’ve seen at Hibs

[darwenhibby]

Gordon Hunter was one of the best I’ve seen at Hibs

Geebs one of the best centre half’s not to be capped!!

Sloop George Stewart Efe Rob Jones Fenwick and Smith were brilliant with Franck beside them

[tamig]

It was never just a poor performance or a mistake with Ryan, always him thinking he was too good. Certainly no player ever brought out as many hibs.net phycologists.

His quality was pretty obvious. Few mistakes yeah, but never as many as folk pretended. Similar to Ambrose actually. Efe and Ryan made less mistakes than McGregor, Gray, Hanlon etc, but their higher risk playstyle terrified our "kick it in the ****ing stand" fans.
That’s revisionist nonsense. Efe Ambrose barely made a mistake in a Hibs jersey. Porteous has cost us numerous points over the past couple of seasons with his mistakes. A few? And you’re making stuff up about Gray and co making more mistakes than him. Sure they made some - but not at the same frequency of Porto over the last 18 months or so. Moments of pure quality from him but a needless number of costly errors.

[LaMotta]

Rab Jones was a bombscare when he first got to Hibs, he came on to a good game, as he was a good age for a centre half, so Porto has lots of time to learn.
In my humble opinion of course.
:thumbsup:

Jones started off really well for us, and I wouldn't ever describe him as a bombscare. Great player!

[LaMotta]

That’s revisionist nonsense. Efe Ambrose barely made a mistake in a Hibs jersey. Porteous has cost us numerous points over the past couple of seasons with his mistakes. A few? And you’re making stuff up about Gray and co making more mistakes than him. Sure they made some - but not at the same frequency of Porto over the last 18 months or so. Moments of pure quality from him but a needless number of costly errors.

Agree with this.:agree:

[BILLYHIBS]

That’s revisionist nonsense. Efe Ambrose barely made a mistake in a Hibs jersey. Porteous has cost us numerous points over the past couple of seasons with his mistakes. A few? And you’re making stuff up about Gray and co making more mistakes than him. Sure they made some - but not at the same frequency of Porto over the last 18 months or so. Moments of pure quality from him but a needless number of costly errors.

Cannot remember SDG making a mistake that directly cost us a goal

That is sacrilege surely?

Porto never progressed and was in danger of becoming the next Jordon Forster plus his heid was up his arse in his last season

A better player than Forster admittedly

Efe was quality the finished article just when you thought he was about to sell the jerseys he would somehow get away with it

Should never have left

[Paulie Walnuts]

That’s revisionist nonsense. Efe Ambrose barely made a mistake in a Hibs jersey. Porteous has cost us numerous points over the past couple of seasons with his mistakes. A few? And you’re making stuff up about Gray and co making more mistakes than him. Sure they made some - but not at the same frequency of Porto over the last 18 months or so. Moments of pure quality from him but a needless number of costly errors.

:agree:

[Brightside]

Lets be honest Paul Hanlon is the best centre half we have ever had.

[Iain G]

Yawn, its been done to death by now, but we awe have our opinions.:greengrin Goalie was Jim Herriot, he done us o.k. may even have played for Scotland at one time cannie remember. (Just seen he had 8 caps, so no too shabby)
Porto is still a very good young centre half.
:greengrin

Must have been challenging to keep goal with one arm up a coo's backside :greengrin

[MWHIBBIES]

Cannot remember SDG making a mistake that directly cost us a goal

That is sacrilege surely?

Porto never progressed and was in danger of becoming the next Jordon Forster plus his heid was up his arse in his last season

A better player than Forster admittedly

Efe was quality the finished article just when you thought he was about to sell the jerseys he would somehow get away with it

Should never have left

Oh god. I adore gray but there were plenty of mistakes. He was in very poor form the 2nd half of our promotion season.

[hibsbollah]

Two things can be true at once, 1:Porteous is doing well at Watford, the fans think theyve got an absolute bargain and he could go on and have a great career and earn a shedload of money. 2:It had stopped working for him at Hibs; too many mistakes, too much inconsistency, too much screaming at his teammates and we're better moving on.

[hibsbollah]

Ambrose was outstanding for us and if anything a bit under appreciated.

Matias Doumbé was underrated for us I always thought.

[CockneyRebel]

Geebs one of the best centre half’s not to be capped!!

Sloop George Stewart Efe Rob Jones Fenwick and Smith were brilliant with Franck beside them


Thought Fenwick was a tad underrated. Nice guy, good player. My son worked in removals for a few years and was in the team that moved Fenwick back to Canada and he gave my boy a full Hibs training kit which he wore to every Hibs game he attended for a good few years.
Smith also a very good player. IIRC he came to us from Aberdeen who let him leave as they thought he was done.

[Iain G]

Thought Fenwick was a tad underrated. Nice guy, good player. My son worked in removals for a few years and was in the team that moved Fenwick back to Canada and he gave my boy a full Hibs training kit which he wore to every Hibs game he attended for a good few years.
Smith also a very good player. IIRC he came to us from Aberdeen who let him leave as they thought he was done.

That combo of Fenwick, Smith and Sauzee worked very well.

[FRes Hibbie]

Two things can be true at once, 1:Porteous is doing well at Watford, the fans think theyve got an absolute bargain and he could go on and have a great career and earn a shedload of money. 2:It had stopped working for him at Hibs; too many mistakes, too much inconsistency, too much screaming at his teammates and we're better moving on.

This is basically it.

[KWJ]

That combo of Fenwick, Smith and Sauzee worked very well.

Yup. Especially with big Ullie on the left wing.

Others I'd say were above average in my time would be Yogi, Jones, Bamba, Doumbe, Fonts, Hanlon, Big Daz, Gunner, Efe and Porto.

Honourable mentions for Hogg, Caldwell :duck:, McPake and Mark Dempsie.

[BILLYHIBS]

Oh god. I adore gray but there were plenty of mistakes. He was in very poor form the 2nd half of our promotion season.

Dearie me

Please never stop posting on here you are always worth a laugh or two

SDG played 41 games that season all of them as Captain scoring three goals

He only lost seven games that season four of which were in the Cup including the winning goal away to Brondby

I am actually surprised he managed as many as 41 games that season and 47 the previous season due to his style of play as he always put his body on the line giving no less than 100% for the cause leading by example including scoring the winning goal in the Scottish Cup Final

If you can think of any goals that he caused pray remind me plenty of Porto’s are springing to mind as I type

Do you actually watch the games ?

https://i.ibb.co/N2PZxpq/C5-DCD5-F2-FDDA-435-E-BC03-97-C62-F8-E02-E8.jpg (https://ibb.co/zVYGsbg)

[Winston Ingram]

That’s revisionist nonsense. Efe Ambrose barely made a mistake in a Hibs jersey. Porteous has cost us numerous points over the past couple of seasons with his mistakes. A few? And you’re making stuff up about Gray and co making more mistakes than him. Sure they made some - but not at the same frequency of Porto over the last 18 months or so. Moments of pure quality from him but a needless number of costly errors.

That's just utter revisionist nonsense. At the start of the 18/19 season he was a joke figure. Particularly in our European run. He probably cost us 6 or 7 goals before October. I can remember shed loads of other ones outside that period.

Efe was very good player for us but to say Efe barely made a mistake for us is one of the wildest takes I've ever seen on this board.

[Paulie Walnuts]

That's just utter revisionist nonsense. At the start of the 18/19 season he was a joke figure. Particularly in our European run. He probably cost us 6 or 7 goals before October. I can remember shed loads of other ones outside that period.

Efe was very good player for us but to say Efe barely made a mistake for us is one of the wildest takes I've ever seen on this board.

Care to tell us some of them?

I certainly can’t remember shed loads of goals caused by Ambrose. Considering he was only here 2 seasons and you can remember 6 or 7 before October and a shed load outside of those ones he must have been one of our worst ever centre halves.

[eastterrace]

That's just utter revisionist nonsense. At the start of the 18/19 season he was a joke figure. Particularly in our European run. He probably cost us 6 or 7 goals before October. I can remember shed loads of other ones outside that period.

Efe was very good player for us but to say Efe barely made a mistake for us is one of the wildest takes I've ever seen on this board.
I can’t remember she’d loads o goals but he did play poor up at Aberdeen and away at killie but other than that I thought he was brilliant for us.

[KWJ]

That's just utter revisionist nonsense. At the start of the 18/19 season he was a joke figure. Particularly in our European run. He probably cost us 6 or 7 goals before October. I can remember shed loads of other ones outside that period.

Efe was very good player for us but to say Efe barely made a mistake for us is one of the wildest takes I've ever seen on this board.

He was a joke figure before arriving but that was at Celtic level. He made a few errors for Hibs for sure, not sure about that many over his whole time though let alone that quickly.

Guy was a colossus in the air defending set pieces.

[BILLYHIBS]

That's just utter revisionist nonsense. At the start of the 18/19 season he was a joke figure. Particularly in our European run. He probably cost us 6 or 7 goals before October. I can remember shed loads of other ones outside that period.

Efe was very good player for us but to say Efe barely made a mistake for us is one of the wildest takes I've ever seen on this board.

Struggling to agree with this tbh

Efe was far from a joke figure

In this season he was in his third season with us and would go on to Captain the club

In our European adventure we beat NSI Runavik 12-5

We beat Asteras Tripolis 3-2 at Easter Road Efe was caught out in the right back position and the guy nipped in to score but he redeemed himself by pulling one back

Molde was Molde no one could live with Haaland

We then went on a decent run in the league defeating Dundee 0-3 Hamilton 6-0

The only game I would say Efe was culpable was Killie away 0-3 when he lined up in a 10 man midfield thanks to one of Lenny’s hairbrained line ups

He then went on a run as Captain and contract extension talks before he left after a Man of the Match performance in a 0-1 defeat to Hearts at ER and a MOTM 0-0 draw at home to The Rangers

The guy was pure quality the only game I would attach any blame to him was when he got ripped a new one at Pittodrie 1-4 in 2017

Great player

Edit:

Might have been a joke at Celtic


https://i.ibb.co/JjBNQ2M/13770-F96-6-AC1-46-B6-A316-910-B46669092.jpg (https://ibb.co/Mk2b6p3)

[Smartie]

Efe did have a habit of starting seasons slowly, appearing to be half asleep at times, but when he hit his stride he was superb.

[weecounty hibby]

Efe Ambrose was the kind of player that I pay my money to watch. Great footballer and entertainer. The whole bombscare thing was a myth, even at Celtic. From memory he had a nightmare in one European game, might even have been Barcelona, and that tag suck unfairly. He'd walk into our team now and probably just about every other Hibs team that I have watched.

[MWHIBBIES]

That's just utter revisionist nonsense. At the start of the 18/19 season he was a joke figure. Particularly in our European run. He probably cost us 6 or 7 goals before October. I can remember shed loads of other ones outside that period.

Efe was very good player for us but to say Efe barely made a mistake for us is one of the wildest takes I've ever seen on this board.

Absolute nonsense

[Winston Ingram]

Care to tell us some of them?

I certainly can’t remember shed loads of goals caused by Ambrose. Considering he was only here 2 seasons and you can remember 6 or 7 before October and a shed load outside of those ones he must have been one of our worst ever centre halves.

I'll start with the period I've given.


His shanked og at Runavik in the 1st minute
Diving in and leaving the boy for a clear run on goal for the equaliser at Tripolis
Forgetting he was marking Stevie May for Hoban's opener v Aberdeen at ER
Diving in and getting skinned by Shaun Byrne at Livi for their equaliser.
Falling asleep in the penalty area v Ross County, getting caught by Declan McManus and booting him up in the air for a pen


That's just the ones for that period. He was absolutely comical in the home leg v Tripolis.

This isn't a witch hunt on him. He was an excellent signing for us, but to say he barely made any mistakes when playing for us is laughable. These were just for that period but there were plenty more.

[Since452]

I think Efe's "moments" seemed more than other players because everyone was waiting for them because of the bomb scare tag he had . He did make mistakes but his class on the ball and driving runs out of defence more than compensated for them. Fantastic player for us.

[Winston Ingram]

Porto an absolute stand out again tonight. Watford fans are creaming themselves over him.

[OldEast]

Porto an absolute stand out again tonight. Watford fans are creaming themselves over him.

Porto who? Apologies to those who choose to follow ex Hibs players but for me he's gone. Maybe he'll play an important role for Scotland. Hope he does. Week to week though meh!

[BILLYHIBS]

Porto an absolute stand out again tonight. Watford fans are creaming themselves over him.
Great !

Hopefully he’ll be gone in the summer and we have a big sell on clause ?

Mair strength to his elbow

[Blaster]

Porto who? Apologies to those who choose to follow ex Hibs players but for me he's gone. Maybe he'll play an important role for Scotland. Hope he does. Week to week though meh!

But yet you chose to come on a thread called Porto and make a comment. Your point is fair enough if you are not interested but the thread is maybe best left for people who are

[Stairway 2 7]

But yet you chose to come on a thread called Porto and make a comment. Your point is fair enough if you are not interested but the thread is maybe best left for people who are

I know

I'd defo skip the Josh Doig thread too, as it has a lot on how Josh Doig is getting on..

[OldEast]

But yet you chose to come on a thread called Porto and make a comment. Your point is fair enough if you are not interested but the thread is maybe best left for people who are

You win, congratulations 👍

[jacomo]

You win, congratulations 👍


It was a fair point.

Some fans are interested in following Porto’s post-Hibs career, some aren’t. No need to criticise people either way.

[Winston Ingram]

Porto who? Apologies to those who choose to follow ex Hibs players but for me he's gone. Maybe he'll play an important role for Scotland. Hope he does. Week to week though meh!

'I don't want guitar lessons!:grr:'

(Shamelessly stolen from another poster)

[Since452]

Maybe Porteous was spouting the standard default pish when a Scottish player signs for a lower league English club and the Championship isn't in fact a much better standard than the Premiership. Sounds like he's playing better for Watford than he did for us. Anyway, seems to be a strange love in on here for a guy that refused to sign a new contract and left us for a pittance.

[Since452]

I know

I'd defo skip the Josh Doig thread too, as it has a lot on how Josh Doig is getting on..

Doig signed a new contract with us and in doing so made sure we got a brilliant transfer fee. Porteous didn't care less about us. Left then critisised the standard. He's a welt.

[OldEast]

It was a fair point.

Some fans are interested in following Porto’s post-Hibs career, some aren’t. No need to criticise people either way.

Who was I criticising? In fact I apologized to those who choose to follow him.

[flash]

We presumably have a Sell on clause which us enough for me to be interested in his progress.

[Donegal Hibby]

Doig signed a new contract with us and in doing so made sure we got a brilliant transfer fee. Porteous didn't care less about us. Left then critisised the standard. He's a welt.
Agree 100%

[Winston Ingram]

Doig signed a new contract with us and in doing so made sure we got a brilliant transfer fee. Porteous didn't care less about us. Left then critisised the standard. He's a welt.

McGinn refused to sign a new deal on several occasions. He would have left in Jan for a lower fee if an offer hadn't come in from Villa or would have left for he haw. Is he a welt?

On top of that, he didn't criticise the standard.

He said the standard was higher than he's used to. It's hard to argue that the likes of Motherwell, Ross County, Killie, Livi, Aberdeen etc are a better standard than the team he played on that day. The team he was playing for is certainly a lot higher standard than ours.

[Brightside]

Porto an absolute stand out again tonight. Watford fans are creaming themselves over him.

Apart from the start of the game and the end of the game...... He will do fine and more than likely get a move. Hopefully not to Udinese.

[Donegal Hibby]

McGinn refused to sign a new deal on several occasions. He would have left in Jan for a lower fee if an offer hadn't come in from Villa or would have left for he haw. Is he a welt?

On top of that, he didn't criticise the standard.

He said the standard was higher than he's used to. It's hard to argue that the likes of Motherwell, Ross County, Killie, Livi, Aberdeen etc are a better standard than the team he played on that day. The team he was playing for is certainly a lot higher standard than ours.
Mcginn might have refused a new deal though we got a lot more money for him and Mcginn wasn't a dyed in the wool Hibee the way Porto was meant to be . Mcginn also give good performance's right up in till he left , Porto's were anything but good for weeks leading up to him leaving.

On top of that I don't remember Mcginn getting into any trouble or bringing any bad press to our football club like porto who pleaded guilty to culpable and reckless behaviour on a night out . Mcginn's conduct was always pretty good imo and wasn't that of a welt !

He also plays against teams like Rotherham , Luton , Blackpool , Millwall and Wigan who are totally uninspiring and I wouldn't watch if they were on TV . Each to their own though. Porto could have came out and praised the standard of he championship which some us wouldn't have minded instead he drew comparison and degraded the league he left which he should have had abit more gratitude in helping him in his career to date .He also kept us hanging on for weeks when he probably already knew he was leaving which he handled badly imo.

We have Hanlon and Stevenson who have shown year's of committment and loyalty to this football club that regularly get criticised and called out yet someone like Porteous is a great fella , I just don't get it ! . Like the other poster I'm one that really doesn't have any time for Porto and while I don't wish him any ill , I certainly don't wish him any well either. Just another in a long line that left the club for me poorly Thomson , murray ,Porto and so on .

[flash]

Apart from the start of the game and the end of the game...... He will do fine and more than likely get a move. Hopefully not to Udinese.

The goal wasn't his fault. No way he could prevent the deflection.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Apart from the start of the game and the end of the game...... He will do fine and more than likely get a move. Hopefully not to Udinese.

Yeah he should have done better with the equaliser imo.

[Winston Ingram]

Mcginn might have refused a new deal though we got a lot more money for him and Mcginn wasn't a dyed in the wool Hibee the way Porto was meant to be . Mcginn also give good performance's right up in till he left , Porto's were anything but good for weeks leading up to him leaving.

On top of that I don't remember Mcginn getting into any trouble or bringing any bad press to our football club like porto who pleaded guilty to culpable and reckless behaviour on a night out . Mcginn's conduct was always pretty good imo and wasn't that of a welt !

He also plays against teams like Rotherham , Luton , Blackpool , Millwall and Wigan who are totally uninspiring and I wouldn't watch if they were on TV . Each to their own though. Porto could have came out and praised the standard of he championship which some us wouldn't have minded instead he drew comparison and degraded the league he left which he should have had abit more gratitude in helping him in his career to date .He also kept us hanging on for weeks when he probably already knew he was leaving which he handled badly imo.

We have Hanlon and Stevenson who have shown year's of committment and loyalty to this football club that regularly get criticised and called out yet someone like Porteous is a great fella , I just don't get it ! . Like the other poster I'm one that really doesn't have any time for Porto and while I don't wish him any ill , I certainly don't wish him any well either. Just another in a long line that left the club for me poorly Thomson , murray ,Porto and so on .

We got a lot more money cos an offer came in. An offer didn't come in for Porto in Aug. Hibs had the chance to offer him a deal for the previous 4 years and didn't. Where was Hibs loyalty? It was clear he was a prospect, it was clear he was going to be worth money but we tried to penny-pinch and only offered him a deal last year. We should have offered him a new longer deal 2 years ago and we would have got that that big fee.

Porto didn't praise the standard of the Championship. He praised the standard that day. That standard was the team he was playing for and the team he was playing against.

Hanlon and Stevenson, like anyone else would've been out of here like a rat up a drainpipe if someone had come in and offered to multiply their salary by more than 5. It's incredibly naive to think otherwise.

[A Hi-Bee]

We got a lot more money cos an offer came in. An offer didn't come in for Porto in Aug. Hibs had the chance to offer him a deal for the previous 4 years and didn't. Where was Hibs loyalty? It was clear he was a prospect, it was clear he was going to be worth money but we tried to penny-pinch and only offered him a deal last year. We should have offered him a new longer deal 2 years ago and we would have got that that big fee.

Porto didn't praise the standard of the Championship. He praised the standard that day. That standard was the team he was playing for and the team he was playing against.

Hanlon and Stevenson, like anyone else would've been out of here like a rat up a drainpipe if someone had come in and offered to multiply their salary by more than 5. It's incredibly naive to think otherwise.

:top marks an saves me the bother of writing similar again.

[Watford_Mark]

I was at Porto's debut on Saturday and all those around me were suitably impressed with him. He made some good challenges, was involved a lot in the game, although a poor clearance from him did eventually lead to the Blackburn goal. He had one niggly moment with the Blackburn no 10, which again was approved by the crowd.

Very vocal with lots of pointing.

Hes also attending a local meet the players thing for kids this Friday at the ground. Seems to be settling in well :)

[LaMotta]

Yeah he should have done better with the equaliser imo.

He didn't look too clever for Blackburn's goal on Saturday either.

Overall though can see why he's made a good impression with his allround play.

[Lago]

Porto an absolute stand out again tonight. Watford fans are creaming themselves over him.
Is there going to be a Porto report following every Watford game 🙄

[LaMotta]

Is there going to be a Porto report following every Watford game 🙄

Hopefully there will be. Like with McGinn and Doig its pretty interesting I reckon.

[tamig]

Porto an absolute stand out again tonight. Watford fans are creaming themselves over him.

Sounds like you’re creaming over it too.

[gbhibby]

He was always going to be a standout it's only the English Championship.

[Donegal Hibby]

We got a lot more money cos an offer came in. An offer didn't come in for Porto in Aug. Hibs had the chance to offer him a deal for the previous 4 years and didn't. Where was Hibs loyalty? It was clear he was a prospect, it was clear he was going to be worth money but we tried to penny-pinch and only offered him a deal last year. We should have offered him a new longer deal 2 years ago and we would have got that that big fee.

Porto didn't praise the standard of the Championship. He praised the standard that day. That standard was the team he was playing for and the team he was playing against.

Hanlon and Stevenson, like anyone else would've been out of here like a rat up a drainpipe if someone had come in and offered to multiply their salary by more than 5. It's incredibly naive to think otherwise.
I think he always planned to move and your probably right we should have tried earlier to sign him up as LJ had said this too though i doubt very much he would have signed anyhow . We did make him a really good offer( hardly penny pinching ) in the end up which he refused and played a stalling tactic with fans " of wait and see" when he probably already knew he was leaving rather than being honest and open with the club and fans . Where was Ryan Porteous loyalty? None existent as far as I can see !.

You ask where was hibs loyalty? They give him his chance in football and helped develop him as a player , they also stood by him when he threw a glass/ cup at a woman to which he admitted his guilt, it didn't actually end there with one of his mates taking a memorial wreath from someone's property , ( nice lads ) . What I find naive is someone trying to make a comparison with John Mcginn to someone that had shamed and let the club down badly.

Ok he didn't praise the championship but the standard on the day which is fine , nothing wrong with that though he didn't have to degrade the league he left by making comparisons which he did and was uncalled for imo . Last few weeks he was at us he was s***e and should have been dropped , costing us goals , shouting at players , just a big time Charlie with a rotten attitude who's joined a yo- yo team . Glad he's gone we are better with out as it's proving to be the case.

As for Lewis Stevenson and Paul Hanlon both guys could have ran there contracts down and moved away when they were at there peak and made money for themselves, I'm sure there's lots a teams would have signed them on pre contracts but thankfully they stayed and give 100% in every game . They also conduct themselves in a manner us fans can be proud off , sadly the same can't be said of Ryan Porteous.

[Stonewall]

Porto needed to leave to progress, both as a player and, as his on field behaviour demonstrates, as a person. I think most people agree on that. Maybe he wasn’t confident that he’d get a decent move if a substantial fee was involved so he let his contract run down.

I don’t blame him for not being “honest” with the fans. Gary Caldwell was honest and look what happened to him. I think he owes us nothing but thanks for the opportunities and support he received from Hibs and hope he fulfils his obvious talents.

[Winston Ingram]

Is there going to be a Porto report following every Watford game 🙄

I'd imagine there will likely be from someone as there is on Doig thread and there was on the McGinn thread.

I find it strange that you'd come on to the Porto thread and be surprised to see an update on how he was getting on :rolleyes:

[Winston Ingram]

I think he always planned to move and your probably right we should have tried earlier to sign him up as LJ had said this too though i doubt very much he would have signed anyhow . We did make him a really good offer( hardly penny pinching ) in the end up which he refused and played a stalling tactic with fans " of wait and see" when he probably already knew he was leaving rather than being honest and open with the club and fans . Where was Ryan Porteous loyalty? None existent as far as I can see !.

You ask where was hibs loyalty? They give him his chance in football and helped develop him as a player , they also stood by him when he threw a glass/ cup at a woman to which he admitted his guilt, it didn't actually end there with one of his mates taking a memorial wreath from someone's property , ( nice lads ) . What I find naive is someone trying to make a comparison with John Mcginn to someone that had shamed and let the club down badly.

Ok he didn't praise the championship but the standard on the day which is fine , nothing wrong with that though he didn't have to degrade the league he left by making comparisons which he did and was uncalled for imo . Last few weeks he was at us he was s***e and should have been dropped , costing us goals , shouting at players , just a big time Charlie with a rotten attitude who's joined a yo- yo team . Glad he's gone we are better with out as it's proving to be the case.

As for Lewis Stevenson and Paul Hanlon both guys could have ran there contracts down and moved away when they were at there peak and made money for themselves, I'm sure there's lots a teams would have signed them on pre contracts but thankfully they stayed and give 100% in every game . They also conduct themselves in a manner us fans can be proud off , sadly the same can't be said of Ryan Porteous.

He said he would likely have signed it himself if he was offered it years ago. Then he had just turned 21 and had plenty time to move. He's now 23, and it's a logical time to go.

I accept his form was poor in his last few months, as was the rest of the teams. I didn't see his effort levels drop. His performances prior to this season were excellent.

As for lobbing the glass in the direction of some people, not great, he apologised, was punished and moved on. Couldn't give a flying fancy about what his pals did. We've all got ******** mates.

I don't know why you keep bringing Hanlon and Stevenson into this. It's not even remotely comparable. Much as I love them they never had an offer like Porto got to my knowledge. It's usually us that have ran their contracts down. We've often offered a new deal very late and they've signed it cos it was the best offer on the table. As i said in my last response, if they had an offer greater than 5x their salary, they'd have been off like a shot.

[Lago]

I'd imagine there will likely be from someone as there is on Doig thread and there was on the McGinn thread.

I find it strange that you'd come on to the Porto thread and be surprised to see an update on how he was getting on :rolleyes:
I thought maybe something important had happened, maybe a red card 🤔

[Donegal Hibby]

He said he would likely have signed it himself if he was offered it years ago. Then he had just turned 21 and had plenty time to move. He's now 23, and it's a logical time to go.

I accept his form was poor in his last few months, as was the rest of the teams. I didn't see his effort levels drop. His performances prior to this season were excellent.

As for lobbing the glass in the direction of some people, not great, he apologised, was punished and moved on. Couldn't give a flying fancy about what his pals did. We've all got ******** mates.

I don't know why you keep bringing Hanlon and Stevenson into this. It's not even remotely comparable. Much as I love them they never had an offer like Porto got to my knowledge. It's usually us that have ran their contracts down. We've often offered a new deal very late and they've signed it cos it was the best offer on the table. As i said in my last response, if they had an offer greater than 5x their salary, they'd have been off like a shot.
Maybe he would have signed if he was offered a new deal at 21 and maybe he wouldn't ( talk is cheap) ,it's just as logical for a player to move at 24 or 25 too . Personally I don't read to much into what Ryan Porteous says as he's lost all credibility as far as I'm concerned . He could for a so-called Hibs fan signed a year deal and moved in the summer doing right by the club too but choose not too ( Which was his right to do I suppose ) . He could also told us weeks before he left that he was going but choose not to and kept some of us fans in the dark to what he was doing . Didn't think to much of the Hibs fans with him supposedly being one and that was handled badly by him imo .

His form in the last few months was shockingly bad just like his attitude , costing us goals , shouting at players , falling down and looking for free kicks for nothing and as I said a big time Charlie attitude ., You say his form was bad like the rest of the team funny I thought Rocky was really good and our best centre half then , difference in our opinions there I think .

As to the throwing of the glass at a girl that sort of sum's up his character for me to be honest and I did give a flying fancy to what he and his mates done at the time as it brought Hibs alot of bad and embarrassing publicity and also shows what kinda company he keeps too . I've never had a mate go into someone's property to take a memorial wreath and wouldn't have one either as it's a totally s****y thing to do anyhow. Though Hibs stuck by him and even when Goodwin slandered him . Great loyalty by Hibs shown to him that only worked one way unfortunately .

Both Stevenson and Hanlon were never involved in what Porteous got involved in at his age and shows what decent guys they are , even young Josh Doig who was meant to be a jambo left in better terms than Porteous and isn't out in Italy degrading the club and league he came from . Anyhow I've no time at all for Ryan Porteous and don't wish him ill or hope he does well , he's just another Kevin Thomson , Ian Murray , Florian Kamberi , basically a total welt of a guy imo

[CapitalGreen]

Maybe he would have signed if he was offered a new deal at 21 and maybe he wouldn't ( talk is cheap) ,it's just as logical for a player to move at 24 or 25 too . Personally I don't read to much into what Ryan Porteous says as he's lost all credibility as far as I'm concerned . He could for a so-called Hibs fan signed a year deal and moved in the summer doing right by the club too but choose not too ( Which was his right to do I suppose ) . He could also told us weeks before he left that he was going but choose not to and kept some of us fans in the dark to what he was doing . Didn't think to much of the Hibs fans with him supposedly being one and that was handled badly by him imo .

His form in the last few months was shockingly bad just like his attitude , costing us goals , shouting at players , falling down and looking for free kicks for nothing and as I said a big time Charlie attitude ., You say his form was bad like the rest of the team funny I thought Rocky was really good and our best centre half then , difference in our opinions there I think .

As to the throwing of the glass at a girl that sort of sum's up his character for me to be honest and I did give a flying fancy to what he and his mates done at the time as it brought Hibs alot of bad and embarrassing publicity and also shows what kinda company he keeps too . I've never had a mate go into someone's property to take a memorial wreath and wouldn't have one either as it's a totally s****y thing to do anyhow. Though Hibs stuck by him and even when Goodwin slandered him . Great loyalty by Hibs shown to him that only worked one way unfortunately .

Both Stevenson and Hanlon were never involved in what Porteous got involved in at his age and shows what decent guys they are , even young Josh Doig who was meant to be a jambo left in better terms than Porteous and isn't out in Italy degrading the club and league he came from . Anyhow I've no time at all for Ryan Porteous and don't wish him ill or hope he does well , he's just another Kevin Thomson , Ian Murray , Florian Kamberi , basically a total welt of a guy imo

Having read this post, the only person coming across as “welt” from this is yourself.

[HH81]

Got a ticket for Sheffield v Watford at the end of the month, hope he plays.

[Winston Ingram]

Maybe he would have signed if he was offered a new deal at 21 and maybe he wouldn't ( talk is cheap) ,it's just as logical for a player to move at 24 or 25 too . Personally I don't read to much into what Ryan Porteous says as he's lost all credibility as far as I'm concerned . He could for a so-called Hibs fan signed a year deal and moved in the summer doing right by the club too but choose not too ( Which was his right to do I suppose ) . He could also told us weeks before he left that he was going but choose not to and kept some of us fans in the dark to what he was doing . Didn't think to much of the Hibs fans with him supposedly being one and that was handled badly by him imo .

His form in the last few months was shockingly bad just like his attitude , costing us goals , shouting at players , falling down and looking for free kicks for nothing and as I said a big time Charlie attitude ., You say his form was bad like the rest of the team funny I thought Rocky was really good and our best centre half then , difference in our opinions there I think .

As to the throwing of the glass at a girl that sort of sum's up his character for me to be honest and I did give a flying fancy to what he and his mates done at the time as it brought Hibs alot of bad and embarrassing publicity and also shows what kinda company he keeps too . I've never had a mate go into someone's property to take a memorial wreath and wouldn't have one either as it's a totally s****y thing to do anyhow. Though Hibs stuck by him and even when Goodwin slandered him . Great loyalty by Hibs shown to him that only worked one way unfortunately .

Both Stevenson and Hanlon were never involved in what Porteous got involved in at his age and shows what decent guys they are , even young Josh Doig who was meant to be a jambo left in better terms than Porteous and isn't out in Italy degrading the club and league he came from . Anyhow I've no time at all for Ryan Porteous and don't wish him ill or hope he does well , he's just another Kevin Thomson , Ian Murray , Florian Kamberi , basically a total welt of a guy imo

I’ve no idea where to start with this drivel.

You’re blaming him for what other people of done and something he had no control of expecting it to have some sort of validity.

Hibs stood up for their player as they should as Goodwin was talking pish.

I think it sums up your character more that you can‘t even get your facts straight before judging someone.

His offence was ‘recklessly throwing a plastic tumbler’.

He chucked a way a plastic cup. It hit a girl. The way you are trying to make it sound is that he picked up a glass(a lot different from a plastic cup) and deliberately threw it at that girl.

[bigwheel]

Maybe he would have signed if he was offered a new deal at 21 and maybe he wouldn't ( talk is cheap) ,it's just as logical for a player to move at 24 or 25 too . Personally I don't read to much into what Ryan Porteous says as he's lost all credibility as far as I'm concerned . He could for a so-called Hibs fan signed a year deal and moved in the summer doing right by the club too but choose not too ( Which was his right to do I suppose ) . He could also told us weeks before he left that he was going but choose not to and kept some of us fans in the dark to what he was doing . Didn't think to much of the Hibs fans with him supposedly being one and that was handled badly by him imo .

His form in the last few months was shockingly bad just like his attitude , costing us goals , shouting at players , falling down and looking for free kicks for nothing and as I said a big time Charlie attitude ., You say his form was bad like the rest of the team funny I thought Rocky was really good and our best centre half then , difference in our opinions there I think .

As to the throwing of the glass at a girl that sort of sum's up his character for me to be honest and I did give a flying fancy to what he and his mates done at the time as it brought Hibs alot of bad and embarrassing publicity and also shows what kinda company he keeps too . I've never had a mate go into someone's property to take a memorial wreath and wouldn't have one either as it's a totally s****y thing to do anyhow. Though Hibs stuck by him and even when Goodwin slandered him . Great loyalty by Hibs shown to him that only worked one way unfortunately .

Both Stevenson and Hanlon were never involved in what Porteous got involved in at his age and shows what decent guys they are , even young Josh Doig who was meant to be a jambo left in better terms than Porteous and isn't out in Italy degrading the club and league he came from . Anyhow I've no time at all for Ryan Porteous and don't wish him ill or hope he does well , he's just another Kevin Thomson , Ian Murray , Florian Kamberi , basically a total welt of a guy imo

this post is brutal…seismically wrong in almost every element .. take a break . Switch off your social for a week or so ..think you need a reset ..

[GRA]

Don't get the Porto hate. I can't blame him for leaving the goldfish bowl of Scottish football. Anyone that criticises him for stating English Champ is better standard than Scottish Prem is deluded.

He's gone and slotted straight into a team that will likely be challenging for promotion places to the Premier League. Last night played full game away to runaway leaders, seconds away from keeping a clean sheet.

He'll go on to have many more caps for Scotland IMO. Good luck to the guy. Clearly deserves it after all the s*it he had to go through here because he had the audacity to mock Sevco.

[WhileTheChief..]

I’ve no idea where to start with this drivel.

You’re blaming him for what other people of done and something he had no control of expecting it to have some sort of validity.

Hibs stood up for their player as they should as Goodwin was talking pish.

I think it sums up your character more that you can‘t even get your facts straight before judging someone.

His offence was ‘recklessly throwing a plastic tumbler’.

He chucked a way a plastic cup. It hit a girl. The way you are trying to make it sound is that he picked up a glass(a lot different from a plastic cup) and deliberately threw it at that girl.


this post is brutal…seismically wrong in almost every element .. take a break . Switch off your social for a week or so ..think you need a reset ..

:top marks

[Libby Hibby]

Maybe he would have signed if he was offered a new deal at 21 and maybe he wouldn't ( talk is cheap) ,it's just as logical for a player to move at 24 or 25 too . Personally I don't read to much into what Ryan Porteous says as he's lost all credibility as far as I'm concerned . He could for a so-called Hibs fan signed a year deal and moved in the summer doing right by the club too but choose not too ( Which was his right to do I suppose ) . He could also told us weeks before he left that he was going but choose not to and kept some of us fans in the dark to what he was doing . Didn't think to much of the Hibs fans with him supposedly being one and that was handled badly by him imo .

His form in the last few months was shockingly bad just like his attitude , costing us goals , shouting at players , falling down and looking for free kicks for nothing and as I said a big time Charlie attitude ., You say his form was bad like the rest of the team funny I thought Rocky was really good and our best centre half then , difference in our opinions there I think .

As to the throwing of the glass at a girl that sort of sum's up his character for me to be honest and I did give a flying fancy to what he and his mates done at the time as it brought Hibs alot of bad and embarrassing publicity and also shows what kinda company he keeps too . I've never had a mate go into someone's property to take a memorial wreath and wouldn't have one either as it's a totally s****y thing to do anyhow. Though Hibs stuck by him and even when Goodwin slandered him . Great loyalty by Hibs shown to him that only worked one way unfortunately .

Both Stevenson and Hanlon were never involved in what Porteous got involved in at his age and shows what decent guys they are , even young Josh Doig who was meant to be a jambo left in better terms than Porteous and isn't out in Italy degrading the club and league he came from . Anyhow I've no time at all for Ryan Porteous and don't wish him ill or hope he does well , he's just another Kevin Thomson , Ian Murray , Florian Kamberi , basically a total welt of a guy imo

I think you’ve let your mask slip with this post.

[HibbyAndy]

Maybe he would have signed if he was offered a new deal at 21 and maybe he wouldn't ( talk is cheap) ,it's just as logical for a player to move at 24 or 25 too . Personally I don't read to much into what Ryan Porteous says as he's lost all credibility as far as I'm concerned . He could for a so-called Hibs fan signed a year deal and moved in the summer doing right by the club too but choose not too ( Which was his right to do I suppose ) . He could also told us weeks before he left that he was going but choose not to and kept some of us fans in the dark to what he was doing . Didn't think to much of the Hibs fans with him supposedly being one and that was handled badly by him imo .

His form in the last few months was shockingly bad just like his attitude , costing us goals , shouting at players , falling down and looking for free kicks for nothing and as I said a big time Charlie attitude ., You say his form was bad like the rest of the team funny I thought Rocky was really good and our best centre half then , difference in our opinions there I think .

As to the throwing of the glass at a girl that sort of sum's up his character for me to be honest and I did give a flying fancy to what he and his mates done at the time as it brought Hibs alot of bad and embarrassing publicity and also shows what kinda company he keeps too . I've never had a mate go into someone's property to take a memorial wreath and wouldn't have one either as it's a totally s****y thing to do anyhow. Though Hibs stuck by him and even when Goodwin slandered him . Great loyalty by Hibs shown to him that only worked one way unfortunately .

Both Stevenson and Hanlon were never involved in what Porteous got involved in at his age and shows what decent guys they are , even young Josh Doig who was meant to be a jambo left in better terms than Porteous and isn't out in Italy degrading the club and league he came from . Anyhow I've no time at all for Ryan Porteous and don't wish him ill or hope he does well , he's just another Kevin Thomson , Ian Murray , Florian Kamberi , basically a total welt of a guy imo



Never expected this from you mate , that's an absolute shocker of a post , Calling one of our own a welt as well

[Donegal Hibby]

this post is brutal…seismically wrong in almost every element .. take a break . Switch off your social for a week or so ..think you need a reset ..
Don't know what's so brutal about it and most elements of it are actually correct btw also I don't need to take a break or have a reset and what I do with my social is my business thanks very much. I didn't like the incident he and his mates had on a night out ( thought it was disgusting) . Didn't like the way he left Hibs which I felt he handled very badly . (Though wish him luck at the time) .He has since left and been mouthy degrading the league my team plays in which is disrespectful to the Scottish premier League and Hibs instead of showing abit of gratitude to both and I've no time for him whatsoever now though seeing as your starting to dictate what I should do I will leave you loyal Ryan Porteous and Watford fan club to carry on now :aok:

[bigwheel]

Don't know what's so brutal about it and most elements of it are actually correct btw also I don't need to take a break or have a reset and what I do with my social is my business thanks very much. I didn't like the incident he and his mates had on a night out ( thought it was disgusting) . Didn't like the way he left Hibs which I felt he handled very badly . (Though wish him luck at the time) .He has since left and been mouthy degrading the league my team plays in which is disrespectful to the Scottish premier League and Hibs instead of showing abit of gratitude to both and I've no time for him whatsoever now though seeing as your starting to dictate what I should do I will leave you loyal Ryan Porteous and Watford fan club to carry on now :aok:

The fact you are being defensive (“loyal Ryan fans” ) rather than posters wanting balance and facts , is quite telling . I’ve made my points, you’re closed to them , will leave it at that .

[supermcginn]

Maybe he would have signed if he was offered a new deal at 21 and maybe he wouldn't ( talk is cheap) ,it's just as logical for a player to move at 24 or 25 too . Personally I don't read to much into what Ryan Porteous says as he's lost all credibility as far as I'm concerned . He could for a so-called Hibs fan signed a year deal and moved in the summer doing right by the club too but choose not too ( Which was his right to do I suppose ) . He could also told us weeks before he left that he was going but choose not to and kept some of us fans in the dark to what he was doing . Didn't think to much of the Hibs fans with him supposedly being one and that was handled badly by him imo .

His form in the last few months was shockingly bad just like his attitude , costing us goals , shouting at players , falling down and looking for free kicks for nothing and as I said a big time Charlie attitude ., You say his form was bad like the rest of the team funny I thought Rocky was really good and our best centre half then , difference in our opinions there I think .

As to the throwing of the glass at a girl that sort of sum's up his character for me to be honest and I did give a flying fancy to what he and his mates done at the time as it brought Hibs alot of bad and embarrassing publicity and also shows what kinda company he keeps too . I've never had a mate go into someone's property to take a memorial wreath and wouldn't have one either as it's a totally s****y thing to do anyhow. Though Hibs stuck by him and even when Goodwin slandered him . Great loyalty by Hibs shown to him that only worked one way unfortunately .

Both Stevenson and Hanlon were never involved in what Porteous got involved in at his age and shows what decent guys they are , even young Josh Doig who was meant to be a jambo left in better terms than Porteous and isn't out in Italy degrading the club and league he came from . Anyhow I've no time at all for Ryan Porteous and don't wish him ill or hope he does well , he's just another Kevin Thomson , Ian Murray , Florian Kamberi , basically a total welt of a guy imo

Very very poor comments about Porteous, ridiculous actually. Hopefully he goes on to have a great career I wish him every success.

[Garymcl]

Deary me like a few posters on this I hope we’re not gonna get a weekly report on how he’s doing fair enough wish him well etc but he’s gone id rather discuss our up and coming game on Saturday but looking on the net you wouldn’t think we have an important game coming up my apologies rant over :thumbsup:

[Iain G]

Don't know what's so brutal about it and most elements of it are actually correct btw also I don't need to take a break or have a reset and what I do with my social is my business thanks very much. I didn't like the incident he and his mates had on a night out ( thought it was disgusting) . Didn't like the way he left Hibs which I felt he handled very badly . (Though wish him luck at the time) .He has since left and been mouthy degrading the league my team plays in which is disrespectful to the Scottish premier League and Hibs instead of showing abit of gratitude to both and I've no time for him whatsoever now though seeing as your starting to dictate what I should do I will leave you loyal Ryan Porteous and Watford fan club to carry on now :aok:

Am not sure why you are taking some of this so personally. The standard of opposition is clearly better where he is than playing against Ross County or Aberdeen. He hasn't said anything derogatory about Hibs that I have seen. It's his career to manage as he sees fit and it is what it is, we still got money out of it and will get more if he is successful.

Personally I think we will be better without him based on his erratic performances this year and I hope we reinvest his fee into a more solid and stable core.

I hope he does ok and promotes the quality of Scottish players further in England.

[JohnM1875]

Maybe he would have signed if he was offered a new deal at 21 and maybe he wouldn't ( talk is cheap) ,it's just as logical for a player to move at 24 or 25 too . Personally I don't read to much into what Ryan Porteous says as he's lost all credibility as far as I'm concerned . He could for a so-called Hibs fan signed a year deal and moved in the summer doing right by the club too but choose not too ( Which was his right to do I suppose ) . He could also told us weeks before he left that he was going but choose not to and kept some of us fans in the dark to what he was doing . Didn't think to much of the Hibs fans with him supposedly being one and that was handled badly by him imo .

His form in the last few months was shockingly bad just like his attitude , costing us goals , shouting at players , falling down and looking for free kicks for nothing and as I said a big time Charlie attitude ., You say his form was bad like the rest of the team funny I thought Rocky was really good and our best centre half then , difference in our opinions there I think .

As to the throwing of the glass at a girl that sort of sum's up his character for me to be honest and I did give a flying fancy to what he and his mates done at the time as it brought Hibs alot of bad and embarrassing publicity and also shows what kinda company he keeps too . I've never had a mate go into someone's property to take a memorial wreath and wouldn't have one either as it's a totally s****y thing to do anyhow. Though Hibs stuck by him and even when Goodwin slandered him . Great loyalty by Hibs shown to him that only worked one way unfortunately .

Both Stevenson and Hanlon were never involved in what Porteous got involved in at his age and shows what decent guys they are , even young Josh Doig who was meant to be a jambo left in better terms than Porteous and isn't out in Italy degrading the club and league he came from . Anyhow I've no time at all for Ryan Porteous and don't wish him ill or hope he does well , he's just another Kevin Thomson , Ian Murray , Florian Kamberi , basically a total welt of a guy imo

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[Winston Ingram]

Don't know what's so brutal about it and most elements of it are actually correct btw also I don't need to take a break or have a reset and what I do with my social is my business thanks very much. I didn't like the incident he and his mates had on a night out ( thought it was disgusting) . Didn't like the way he left Hibs which I felt he handled very badly . (Though wish him luck at the time) .He has since left and been mouthy degrading the league my team plays in which is disrespectful to the Scottish premier League and Hibs instead of showing abit of gratitude to both and I've no time for him whatsoever now though seeing as your starting to dictate what I should do I will leave you loyal Ryan Porteous and Watford fan club to carry on now :aok:

He hasn’t done this. Just like he didn’t throw a glass at a woman. I’ve no idea why you keep repeating it.

Just like I have no idea why you feel he should be blamed for other people’s behaviour.

I’ve seen some ****ed up posts on here but this is up there.

[Donegal Hibby]

Very very poor comments about Porteous, ridiculous actually. Hopefully he goes on to have a great career I wish him every success.
Everyone to there own point of view mate . Not trying to be controversial or annoy anyone I just didn't like the way he handled basically everything. I'm very proud of HIBERNIAN Football Club and love watching Scottish football and when someone degrades Hibs or Scottish football I find it uncalled for , I suppose it's made it worse for me that a Scottish player that's played for Hibs has shown such little respect for it by pandering to the English media . Personally I don't care what Ryan Porteous or Watford do it's of little importance to me as all I care about is how Hibs do . Once again I will leave you to your Watford and Porteous thread ! Apologies if I've annoyed anyone with my opinions :aok:

[blackpoolhibs]

Everyone to there own point of view mate . Not trying to be controversial or annoy anyone I just didn't like the way he handled basically everything. I'm very proud of HIBERNIAN Football Club and love watching Scottish football and when someone degrades Hibs or Scottish football I find it uncalled for , I suppose it's made it worse for me that a Scottish player that's played for Hibs has shown such little respect for it by pandering to the English media . Personally I don't care what Ryan Porteous or Watford do it's of little importance to me as all I care about is how Hibs do . Once again I will leave you to your Watford and Porteous thread ! Apologies if I've annoyed anyone with my opinions :aok:

Please stop digging that huge hole. :rolleyes:

[Donegal Hibby]

He hasn’t done this. Just like he didn’t throw a glass at a woman. I’ve no idea why you keep repeating it.

Just like I have no idea why you feel he should be blamed for other people’s behaviour.

I’ve seen some ****ed up posts on here but this is up there.
Sorry must have got this wrong then
https://news.stv.tv/east-central/hibernian-fc-player-ryan-porteous-admits-throwing-tumbler-that-hit-womans-face-at-dalkeith-miners-club

[B.H.F.C]

Everyone to there own point of view mate . Not trying to be controversial or annoy anyone I just didn't like the way he handled basically everything. I'm very proud of HIBERNIAN Football Club and love watching Scottish football and when someone degrades Hibs or Scottish football I find it uncalled for , I suppose it's made it worse for me that a Scottish player that's played for Hibs has shown such little respect for it by pandering to the English media . Personally I don't care what Ryan Porteous or Watford do it's of little importance to me as all I care about is how Hibs do . Once again I will leave you to your Watford and Porteous thread ! Apologies if I've annoyed anyone with my opinions :aok:

I don’t know what lack of respect he’s really meant to have done that is so disrespectful? We have a sell on clause so I’d also suggest wanting him to do well is a fairly sensible way to look at it on that basis alone.

[Winston Ingram]

Sorry must have got this wrong then
https://news.stv.tv/east-central/hibernian-fc-player-ryan-porteous-admits-throwing-tumbler-that-hit-womans-face-at-dalkeith-miners-club

If ye read the article ye’d realise you have. He wreckless threw a plastic cup which hit a woman.

You said he threw a ‘glass’ at the woman.

‘Throwing a glass at’ suggests he’s picked up a dangerous weapon with intent, picked his victim and then threw it at her.

He lobbed a plastic cup over his shoulder. Very different.

[Since452]

Porteous never showed up in a big game that I can recall. Nothing that immediately springs to mind anyway. Never won a derby. Let us down badly at Ibrox lunging in when we were well on top. Gave away a daft penalty against Rangers at ER, screamed at his younger teammates on a regular basis and ran down his contract while playing poorly and left for a pittance. He'd be high on my list on the other thread about most disliked Hibs players. Our defence and results have improved since he left.

[MWHIBBIES]

Porteous never showed up in a big game that I can recall. Nothing that immediately springs to mind anyway. Never won a derby. Let us down badly at Ibrox lunging in when we were well on top. Gave away a daft penalty against Rangers at ER, screamed at his younger teammates on a regular basis and ran down his contract while playing poorly and left for a pittance. He'd be high on my list on the other thread about most disliked Hibs players. Our defence and results have improved since he left.

League cup semi vs Rangers?

Played every week in a season we finished 3rd, must've played one or two big games that season?

[Donegal Hibby]

I think you’ve let your mask slip with this post.
If your implying I'm not a hibby ,your out of order btw , many many Hibs games I've travelled from Donegal to go and watch at Easter road and all over Scotland . I will leave it at that !

[Stairway 2 7]

We clearly didn't deserve Porteous going by the posts saying he was rotten. He outgrew us a while ago you could tell by his Scotland performance and he's shown it after having a big step up.

Hopefully we have a sell on because he'll make us a big wedge if he goes to the premiership, which he's definitely capable off.

[B.H.F.C]

Porteous never showed up in a big game that I can recall. Nothing that immediately springs to mind anyway. Never won a derby. Let us down badly at Ibrox lunging in when we were well on top. Gave away a daft penalty against Rangers at ER, screamed at his younger teammates on a regular basis and ran down his contract while playing poorly and left for a pittance. He'd be high on my list on the other thread about most disliked Hibs players. Our defence and results have improved since he left.

You don’t think he’s a very good player yet moan about him leaving for a pittance. Surely can’t have it both ways. Nobody going to pay good money for someone who isn’t particularly good are they?

[B.H.F.C]

We clearly didn't deserve Porteous going by the posts saying he was rotten. He outgrew us a while ago you could tell by his Scotland performance and he's shown it after having a big step up.

Hopefully we have a sell on because he'll make us a big wedge if he goes to the premiership, which he's definitely capable off.

We do have a sell on clause. Hibs confirmed that when they announced he was away.

[LaMotta]

League cup semi vs Rangers?

Played every week in a season we finished 3rd, must've played one or two big games that season?

He was good overall in the semi, but again a howler let the Huns back in the game.

Still think McGregor should have started ahead of him in the Final v Saints that season you mention. He had 2 howlers in the previous 2 games v St Johnstone that cost us defeats, and Daz had been in top form at end of the season.

[MWHIBBIES]

He was good overall in the semi, but again a howler let the Huns back in the game.

Still think McGregor should have started ahead of him in the Final v Saints that season you mention. He had 2 howlers in the previous 2 games v St Johnstone that cost us defeats, and Daz had been in top form at end of the season.

Hibs could've played for hours vs St Johnstone in that final and not scored. Porteous so much better on the ball, and as a threat from set plays, he was probably the best choice. Forwards let us down that day.

[Paulie Walnuts]

We clearly didn't deserve Porteous going by the posts saying he was rotten. He outgrew us a while ago you could tell by his Scotland performance and he's shown it after having a big step up.

Hopefully we have a sell on because he'll make us a big wedge if he goes to the premiership, which he's definitely capable off.

Alternatively you could tell he hadn’t outgrown us by numerous really bad performances for Hibs.

His performances for us were nothing to write home about. I’d suggest that tells you a lot more about whether he outgrew us than how he done elsewhere.

[Stairway 2 7]

Alternatively you could tell he hadn’t outgrown us by numerous really bad performances for Hibs.

His performances for us were nothing to write home about. I’d suggest that tells you a lot more about whether he outgrew us than how he done elsewhere.

We were pish for the last year no one would have looked good. He was a young centre half that was clearly a level above.

Josh Doig had loads on here saying he was crap. Anyone with a clue could tell that he had lots of mistakes in him as youngsters do, but as he grows older they will disappear and the class will shine through.

Both lads will play at a level much higher than us, good luck to them.

As for him jumping ship, all players would. Every hibs legend from the past would have done the same if they were offered 5 times their wages elsewhere

[May21/05/216]

Porteous never showed up in a big game that I can recall. Nothing that immediately springs to mind anyway. Never won a derby. Let us down badly at Ibrox lunging in when we were well on top. Gave away a daft penalty against Rangers at ER, screamed at his younger teammates on a regular basis and ran down his contract while playing poorly and left for a pittance. He'd be high on my list on the other thread about most disliked Hibs players. Our defence and results have improved since he left.I think he showed up when we beat 3.1 in the semi final

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[Paulie Walnuts]

We were pish for the last year no one would have looked good. He was a young centre half that was clearly a level above.

Josh Doig had loads on here saying he was crap. Anyone with a clue could tell that he had lots of mistakes in him as youngsters do, but as he grows older they will disappear and the class will shine through.

Both lads will play at a level much higher than us, good luck to them.

As for him jumping ship, all players would. Every hibs legend from the past would have done the same if they were offered 5 times their wages elsewhere

If he’d outgrown us should his class not have shone through? Surely good players who have outgrown teams don’t get dragged down to the level of the dross around them?

Josh Doig was 18/19. You expect guys like that to make mistakes. Massively different from someone who is 23 with nearly 200 first team games. Porteous wasn’t learning and shouldn’t have been constantly repeating the same mistakes he was. If he had ‘outgrown’ us he wouldn’t have been at fault for so many goals and spending such a ludicrous amount of last season suspended.

He’s a decent player, but the suggestion that a couple of appearances for Scotland show he’d outgrown us when his 150 odd appearances for us showed he hadn’t done anything of the sort is nonsense imo.

[May21/05/216]

I think he showed up when we beat 3.1 in the semi final

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[LaMotta]

Hibs could've played for hours vs St Johnstone in that final and not scored. Porteous so much better on the ball, and as a threat from set plays, he was probably the best choice. Forwards let us down that day.

I think they prob both should have played. Huge error from Ross to not try something different given we'd lost at least 3 in a row to them.

[Winston Ingram]

Hibs could've played for hours vs St Johnstone in that final and not scored. Porteous so much better on the ball, and as a threat from set plays, he was probably the best choice. Forwards let us down that day.

…and the tactics.

[Stairway 2 7]

If he’d outgrown us should his class not have shone through? Surely good players who have outgrown teams don’t get dragged down to the level of the dross around them?

Josh Doig was 18/19. You expect guys like that to make mistakes. Massively different from someone who is 23 with nearly 200 first team games. Porteous wasn’t learning and shouldn’t have been constantly repeating the same mistakes he was. If he had ‘outgrown’ us he wouldn’t have been at fault for so many goals and spending such a ludicrous amount of last season suspended.

He’s a decent player, but the suggestion that a couple of appearances for Scotland show he’d outgrown us when his 150 odd appearances for us showed he hadn’t done anything of the sort is nonsense imo.

23 is very young for a centre half, there's a reason it's by far the oldest outfield position on average. It's completely about experience and reading the game. If you can't see he's outgrown hibs then I completely disagree with you as do most people and most importantly Watford. There's no point in debating the past further he's no a hibs player now. Come back to me in three years and there is next to no chance he'll no be playing at a level above us

[HH81]

At Sheffield United game tomorrow.

Hope he plays well although the wife's father won't want that as a blade. 😁

Great player at Hibs, hope he gets into the Premier league.

[Paulie Walnuts]

23 is very young for a centre half, there's a reason it's by far the oldest outfield position on average. It's completely about experience and reading the game. If you can't see he's outgrown hibs then I completely disagree with you as do most people and most importantly Watford. There's no point in debating the past further he's no a hibs player now. Come back to me in three years and there is next to no chance he'll no be playing at a level above us

He might well be, but the discussion was about his performances for Hibs. Those performances were nothing to write home about and as big a reason for our recent failings as any other player.

[Still Smiling]

Watford fans love him. Great player and quite right to further his career. All Scottish teams are feeder teams.

[HoboHarry]

Watford fans love him. Great player and quite right to further his career. All Scottish teams are feeder teams.
Every league in the world is a feeder team for the English leagues.

[Jones28]

We should probably just say he was a great servant for us and him moving on was the best thing for both parties.

[SickBoy32]

If he’d outgrown us should his class not have shone through? Surely good players who have outgrown teams don’t get dragged down to the level of the dross around them?

Josh Doig was 18/19. You expect guys like that to make mistakes. Massively different from someone who is 23 with nearly 200 first team games. Porteous wasn’t learning and shouldn’t have been constantly repeating the same mistakes he was. If he had ‘outgrown’ us he wouldn’t have been at fault for so many goals and spending such a ludicrous amount of last season suspended.

He’s a decent player, but the suggestion that a couple of appearances for Scotland show he’d outgrown us when his 150 odd appearances for us showed he hadn’t done anything of the sort is nonsense imo.

Painful reading your slavers on this thread, would suggest you get away from they hun aligned red tops asap

We’ll be waiting a while for our next centre half with the ability of porto - a bizarre vendetta

[Paulie Walnuts]

Painful reading your slavers on this thread, would suggest you get away from they hun aligned red tops asap

We’ll be waiting a while for our next centre half with the ability of porto - a bizarre vendetta

:faf:

Aye, you’re right. The weegie mafia made him make the stupid decisions and the mistakes he did.

Why did he spend so long suspended last season? Why did he make numerous errors for goals? Why are we performing better without him in the team? Do you actually have an opinion of your own or is it just personal digs you do?

[SickBoy32]

:faf:

Aye, you’re right. The weegie mafia made him make the stupid decisions and the mistakes he did.

Why did he spend so long suspended last season? Why did he make numerous errors for goals? Why are we performing better without him in the team? Do you actually have an opinion of your own or is it just personal digs you do?

Without digging through your posts again, they red at ibrox was farcical - and I wouldn’t blame him for the red at pittodrie either. Daft re Ramirez I’d agree

He spent so long suspended due to the hun press / hun refs following along with Gerard’s outrageous public comments

The team has beat a few of the weaker sides since Porto left, and personally I’d put that down to the removal of bushiri a lot more than porteous - let’s see how the rest of the season pans out

Would you agree that we’ll need to wait a few year to get another centre half of his ability ?

[Frazerbob]

:faf:

Aye, you’re right. The weegie mafia made him make the stupid decisions and the mistakes he did.

Why did he spend so long suspended last season? Why did he make numerous errors for goals? Why are we performing better without him in the team? Do you actually have an opinion of your own or is it just personal digs you do?

I can answer at least one of those questions....we're performing better (defensively) because we have a much better midfield playing in front of our defence. CJ and Jegga have been superb is the defensive mid role since they joined. Porto is a very good player and is proving that at a higher level. Future Scotland captain IMO and I will be delighted if comes home to finish his career with us.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I can answer at least one of those questions....we're performing better (defensively) because we have a much better midfield playing in front of our defence. CJ and Jegga have been superb is the defensive mid role since they joined. Porto is a very good player and is proving that at a higher level. Future Scotland captain IMO and I will be delighted if comes home to finish his career with us.

There’s absolutely no chance he’ll be a future Scotland captain imo but we’ll have to agree to disagree.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Without digging through your posts again, they red at ibrox was farcical - and I wouldn’t blame him for the red at pittodrie either. Daft re Ramirez I’d agree

He spent so long suspended due to the hun press / hun refs following along with Gerard’s outrageous public comments

The team has beat a few of the weaker sides since Porto left, and personally I’d put that down to the removal of bushiri a lot more than porteous - let’s see how the rest of the season pans out

Would you agree that we’ll need to wait a few year to get another centre half of his ability ?

Who would you blame for his tackle at Pittodrie if not the guy who made the tackle? :confused:

I wouldn’t agree with that, no. I don’t think we’ll be waiting that long. We’ve signed better over the last 5 or 6 years and that’s without considering the fact it’s an area of the team we’ve not really looked to make all that much effort to strengthen.

[jacomo]

Yet again one of our own leaves and some Hibs fans act like they’ve just been dumped by their first true love. It’s embarrassing.

Porto’s a good player and I wish him well. It’s a shame Hibs didn’t get more compensation but i don’t know who’s to blame for letting his contract run down so we just have to move on.

[Since452]

Yet again one of our own leaves and some Hibs fans act like they’ve just been dumped by their first true love. It’s embarrassing.

Porto’s a good player and I wish him well. It’s a shame Hibs didn’t get more compensation but i don’t know who’s to blame for letting his contract run down so we just have to move on.

Or some people were maybe a bit peeved at the over the top goodbyes to him when he's been bordering on being a liability for the last couple of seasons while letting his contract run down. If he miraculously starts playing well for Watford then it's more reason to feel a bit annoyed.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Yet again one of our own leaves and some Hibs fans act like they’ve just been dumped by their first true love. It’s embarrassing.

Porto’s a good player and I wish him well. It’s a shame Hibs didn’t get more compensation but i don’t know who’s to blame for letting his contract run down so we just have to move on.

You’d have more of a point if a lot of people didn’t raise these issues numerous times whilst he was here.

[SickBoy32]

Who would you blame for his tackle at Pittodrie if not the guy who made the tackle? :confused:

I wouldn’t agree with that, no. I don’t think we’ll be waiting that long. We’ve signed better over the last 5 or 6 years and that’s without considering the fact it’s an area of the team we’ve not really looked to make all that much effort to strengthen.

FFS he’s a young defender, of course he’s instinctively going to try and prevent the goal?! It was a split second decision 😂

I was a huge fan of efe, daz and remain a big fan of hanlon - Porto is just as good as any of them. We’ll likely be waiting years - hope I’m wrong on that though !

As jacamo has noted above - it’s mental the revisionism / bitterness being shown by some

[B.H.F.C]

Or some people were maybe a bit peeved at the over the top goodbyes to him when he's been bordering on being a liability for the last couple of seasons while letting his contract run down. If he miraculously starts playing well for Watford then it's more reason to feel a bit annoyed.

Won’t be anything miraculous about him playing well. He’s a good player. Wasn’t in great form before he left but hope he does well down ther and we get the benefit of the sell in clause we have.

[jacomo]

You’d have more of a point if a lot of people didn’t raise these issues numerous times whilst he was here.


Eh?

[jacomo]

Or some people were maybe a bit peeved at the over the top goodbyes to him when he's been bordering on being a liability for the last couple of seasons while letting his contract run down. If he miraculously starts playing well for Watford then it's more reason to feel a bit annoyed.


This is garbage but - apparently - everyone’s entitled to their opinion.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Eh?

You claimed fans are acting like they’ve been dumped by their first true love because he left. In reality a lot of us just thought he wasn’t as good as some made out whilst he was here, so that would kind of disprove the idea that folk are acting like jilted lovers. A lot of folk had the very same criticisms long before he decided he was leaving.

[brog]

FFS he’s a young defender, of course he’s instinctively going to try and prevent the goal?! It was a split second decision 😂

I was a huge fan of efe, daz and remain a big fan of hanlon - Porto is just as good as any of them. We’ll likely be waiting years - hope I’m wrong on that though !

As jacamo has noted above - it’s mental the revisionism / bitterness being shown by some


You claimed fans are acting like they’ve been dumped by their first true love because he left. In reality a lot of us just thought he wasn’t as good as some made out whilst he was here, so that would kind of disprove the idea that folk are acting like jilted lovers. A lot of folk had the very same criticisms long before he decided he was leaving.

I must confess I get confused by a lot of posts on here and the above is no exception. However there is a phrase there that Porteous 'wasn't as good as some made out.' This would be a guy capped by Scotland at all levels and was MOTM on his debut as a full international in our most important match in years. The facts state Porteous was an outstanding player for Hibs.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I must confess I get confused by a lot of posts on here and the above is no exception. However there is a phrase there that Porteous 'wasn't as good as some made out.' This would be a guy capped by Scotland at all levels and was MOTM on his debut as a full international in our most important match in years. The facts state Porteous was an outstanding player for Hibs.

Whether he done well or not for Scotland is as relevant as whether he does well for Watford when it comes to assessing his time at Hibs.

People are saying they didn’t think his performances for Hibs were all that, not for Scotland where he undoubtedly played well. His Hibs performances were littered with a ludicrous amount of suspensions and at least as many errors as the other centre halves. For someone that’s been described as having outgrown Hibs or being a future Scotland captain on this thread his performances were nothing of the sort for Hibs generally speaking imo.

[Itsnoteasy]

FFS he’s a young defender, of course he’s instinctively going to try and prevent the goal?! It was a split second decision 😂

I was a huge fan of efe, daz and remain a big fan of hanlon - Porto is just as good as any of them. We’ll likely be waiting years - hope I’m wrong on that though !

As jacamo has noted above - it’s mental the revisionism / bitterness being shown by some

Young 🤣
He's 24 next month & probably been playing fitbaw since he was 10

[brog]

Whether he done well or not for Scotland is as relevant as whether he does well for Watford when it comes to assessing his time at Hibs.

People are saying they didn’t think his performances for Hibs were all that, not for Scotland where he undoubtedly played well. His Hibs performances were littered with a ludicrous amount of suspensions and at least as many errors as the other centre halves. For someone that’s been described as having outgrown Hibs or being a future Scotland captain on this thread his performances were nothing of the sort for Hibs generally speaking imo.

Well the fact he was selected for Scotland is a fair indicator that his performanages for Hibs were good, or is that also not relevant?

[JimBHibees]

Whether he done well or not for Scotland is as relevant as whether he does well for Watford when it comes to assessing his time at Hibs.

People are saying they didn’t think his performances for Hibs were all that, not for Scotland where he undoubtedly played well. His Hibs performances were littered with a ludicrous amount of suspensions and at least as many errors as the other centre halves. For someone that’s been described as having outgrown Hibs or being a future Scotland captain on this thread his performances were nothing of the sort for Hibs generally speaking imo.

Porto was undoubtedly a very good player for Hibs. Was he perfect no but clear that he is a good player with terrific potential as recognised by the National manger and also an excellent ex player and Coach in Slaven Bilic.

[Since452]

Well the fact he was selected for Scotland is a fair indicator that his performanages for Hibs were good, or is that also not relevant?

When he was selected for Scotland there were many people, including Hibs fans scratching their heads. He was in poor form at the time. He undoubtedly played well for Scotland though so fair play to Clarke.

[500miles]

Or some people were maybe a bit peeved at the over the top goodbyes to him when he's been bordering on being a liability for the last couple of seasons while letting his contract run down. If he miraculously starts playing well for Watford then it's more reason to feel a bit annoyed.
Some liability given our defensive record in those 2 seasons.

[A Hi-Bee]

When he was selected for Scotland there were many people, including Hibs fans scratching their heads. He was in poor form at the time. He undoubtedly played well for Scotland though so fair play to Clarke.

Many other team supporters would say something like this, although the Hibs supporters that I know would all endorse the fact that Porto was a young centre half still learning his trade, but a very fine player for Hibs. one who will go on to play at a much higher level, with any luck Hibs may get some cash return from him moving up the way. Sure he will captain his country in the future as well. You would have to say that Clarke knows a wee bit more about players and the game than most of us!
I am tempted to say that some just have a real need to try and have the last word on any subject, almost like being back in the school playground, but that is just my own humble opinion.

[blackpoolhibs]

Porto could have just stayed at the centre half position and blootered the ball forward all day long.

He could do that all day with his eyes shut, the reason he got a move and much bigger wages is because he can play football.

[Hibbyradge]

Porto could have just stayed at the centre half position and blootered the ball forward all day long.

He could do that all day with his eyes shut, the reason he got a move and much bigger wages is because he can play football.

Rubbish!

He made a mistake once.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Well the fact he was selected for Scotland is a fair indicator that his performanages for Hibs were good, or is that also not relevant?

Gary Kenneth got selected for Scotland as well. There’s been absolutely rakes of crap players selected for Scotland (that’s not to say Porteous is crap btw).

We’ve also had rakes of crap players who have played for other countries play for Hibs. It doesn’t tell you all that much about the standard of a player.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Porto was undoubtedly a very good player for Hibs. Was he perfect no but clear that he is a good player with terrific potential as recognised by the National manger and also an excellent ex player and Coach in Slaven Bilic.

There is doubt, if you look at the numerous threads throughout his time at Hibs there was plenty doubt from plenty people. He wasn’t a bad player by any means, imo he wasn’t ‘very good’ though and his performances regularly reflected that.

As I said above we’ve had national team managers play some absolutely chronic players before. Just being picked for a national team doesn’t instantly make you a very good player. See Mavrias, Nelom, Rherras etc, a couple of them who arguably played for better sides than Scotland for examples of this.

It’s also quite telling that considering folk are claiming he’s a future Scotland captain that he was dropped at the first opportunity for Scotland. Having 1 cap at 24 doesn’t really scream future captain imo. McKenna, Tierney, even the likes of Patterson who are roughly the same age or a bit younger will prevent that.

[jacomo]

When he was selected for Scotland there were many people, including Hibs fans scratching their heads. He was in poor form at the time. He undoubtedly played well for Scotland though so fair play to Clarke.


Speak for yourself. Many of us thought it was overdue.

[tamig]

There is doubt, if you look at the numerous threads throughout his time at Hibs there was plenty doubt from plenty people. He wasn’t a bad player by any means, imo he wasn’t ‘very good’ though and his performances regularly reflected that.

As I said above we’ve had national team managers play some absolutely chronic players before. Just being picked for a national team doesn’t instantly make you a very good player. See Mavrias, Nelom, Rherras etc, a couple of them who arguably played for better sides than Scotland for examples of this.

It’s also quite telling that considering folk are claiming he’s a future Scotland captain that he was dropped at the first opportunity for Scotland. Having 1 cap at 24 doesn’t really scream future captain imo. McKenna, Tierney, even the likes of Patterson who are roughly the same age or a bit younger will prevent that.
I think you’re being very unfair on the foreign boys you’ve mentioned who were with us. They barely played a handful of games between them. How anybody could judge if they were good or not based on not much at all is a strange take. Don’t think it adds any weight to your argument at all.

[heretoday]

Good luck to him but it's a shame how Watford are seen as a more glamorous and luctative destination than the mighty Hibs.
I should smell the roses, I suppose.

[Bridge hibs]

Good luck to him but it's a shame how Watford are seen as a more glamorous and luctative destination than the mighty Hibs.
I should smell the roses, I suppose.

The opportunity to earn far more money that he would ever earn at hibs and the opportunity for a chance to play in the English premiership. I dont blame him, I would do the same

[Smartie]

I wish he’d left 18 months ago. That way we’d have got a bigger fee and been left wondering what might have been if he’d stayed. We could watch his career unfold the way we normally do with “one of our own” or any player who came through our academy.

Instead we got 18 months of hot and cold performances, a few suspensions, a “will he won’t he” saga when he had no intention of signing a new contract and we’ve been made feel like we should grateful for it.

He’ll have a great career and play better elsewhere than he ever would have for Hibs. It’s no surprise we look better the minute he’s gone though and it’s in everyone’s best interests he’s departed.

Interesting character and we had some good times together but tbh I can see why he seems to polarise opinion as I felt like I switched between the pro and anti camps on a weekly basis.

[blackpoolhibs]

The opportunity to earn far more money that he would ever earn at hibs and the opportunity for a chance to play in the English premiership. I dont blame him, I would do the same

As would 99% of us, although to be perfectly fair, he's the only one from this team capable of trying, none of our players will achieve anything near what Porto will in his career.

The launch it long brigade will be moaning as soon as we lose some goals and suffer a defeat.

[MWHIBBIES]

As would 99% of us, although to be perfectly fair, he's the only one from this team capable of trying, none of our players will achieve anything near what Porto will in his career.

The launch it long brigade will be moaning as soon as we lose some goals and suffer a defeat.

Need to wait and see really. I'm definitely in agreement about him being a very good footballer, excellent on the ball with real potential, but others could go to a good level too. Youan could, Campbell possibly, Myko has great potential imo. Mcgeady and Marsh already have.

Ryan will definitely be a star somewhere though. He's quality.

[jacomo]

The opportunity to earn far more money that he would ever earn at hibs and the opportunity for a chance to play in the English premiership. I dont blame him, I would do the same


Everyone gets that.

The point is that, glamorous period under Elton John’s ownership aside, Watford’s main selling point is that they are eligible for promotion to the richest league in the world. They aren’t a bigger club than Hibs, their history is not as storied, and yet they have far more money than us, due to being outside London rather than outside Glasgow or Edinburgh.

[MWHIBBIES]

Everyone gets that.

The point is that, glamorous period under Elton John’s ownership aside, Watford’s main selling point is that they are eligible for promotion to the richest league in the world. They aren’t a bigger club than Hibs, their history is not as storied, and yet they have far more money than us, due to being outside London rather than outside Glasgow or Edinburgh.

Let's be honest, though, if I'm looking for a job, I'm interested in what they're paying, not what they achieved in the 70s.

Watford are miles more attractive than Hibs.

[jacomo]

Let's be honest, though, if I'm looking for a job, I'm interested in what they're paying, not what they achieved in the 70s.

Watford are miles more attractive than Hibs.


I’m not disagreeing with that, just pointing out that it’s pretty brutal truth.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I think you’re being very unfair on the foreign boys you’ve mentioned who were with us. They barely played a handful of games between them. How anybody could judge if they were good or not based on not much at all is a strange take. Don’t think it adds any weight to your argument at all.

There’s a reason the only played a handful of games though surely. If they were good enough they’d have played a lot more.

[blackpoolhibs]

Need to wait and see really. I'm definitely in agreement about him being a very good footballer, excellent on the ball with real potential, but others could go to a good level too. Youan could, Campbell possibly, Myko has great potential imo. Mcgeady and Marsh already have.

Ryan will definitely be a star somewhere though. He's quality.
Youan and Myko are not our players.

[Hibbyradge]

As would 99% of us, although to be perfectly fair, he's the only one from this team capable of trying, none of our players will achieve anything near what Porto will in his career.

The launch it long brigade will be moaning as soon as we lose some goals and suffer a defeat.

"Up the park for medals!"

[blackpoolhibs]

"Up the park for medals!"

:greengrin I can still hear some of my managers shouting that.

[Since452]

Scored the winner today.

[Iain G]

Scored the winner today.

That's the Porto we know and love 😁

[bingo70]

"Up the park for medals!"

I always tell my boy “out the park for medals.” No wonder he’s *****.

In my defence, he’s a goalie and just started playing the pass back rule, out the park is better than in his own goal.

[gbhibby]

I always tell my boy “out the park for medals.” No wonder he’s *****.

In my defence, he’s a goalie and just started playing the pass back rule, out the park is better than in his own goal.
The phrase was always "oot the park for medals:often heard near the end of the match

[JimBHibees]

Porto could have just stayed at the centre half position and blootered the ball forward all day long.

He could do that all day with his eyes shut, the reason he got a move and much bigger wages is because he can play football.

Absolutely correct

[JimBHibees]

The phrase was always "oot the park for medals:often heard near the end of the match

Can remember a corners for medals shout also

[JimBHibees]

There is doubt, if you look at the numerous threads throughout his time at Hibs there was plenty doubt from plenty people. He wasn’t a bad player by any means, imo he wasn’t ‘very good’ though and his performances regularly reflected that.

As I said above we’ve had national team managers play some absolutely chronic players before. Just being picked for a national team doesn’t instantly make you a very good player. See Mavrias, Nelom, Rherras etc, a couple of them who arguably played for better sides than Scotland for examples of this.

It’s also quite telling that considering folk are claiming he’s a future Scotland captain that he was dropped at the first opportunity for Scotland. Having 1 cap at 24 doesn’t really scream future captain imo. McKenna, Tierney, even the likes of Patterson who are roughly the same age or a bit younger will prevent that.

Can't remember many or any claiming he was a future Scotland captain. Clearly a player with loads of potential and has played many more good games for Hibs than bad. You are obviously keen to talk the guy down which is cool.

[I'm_cabbaged]

Scored the winner today.

He got me my coupon up, ****ing love the guy 🤣