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JammyDoidger
02-01-2023, 07:51 PM
I felt embarrassed today, to the point I'm Considering giving it up, I can accept getting beat by a better side, but today I watched a lack of fight, effort, desire, from fans and players, it was beyond a joke. What's the point first of all of the fans gathering inside singing, preventing fans getting to their seats? Get out in the stand and sing, and build the atmosphere inside the stands that the players can bounce of when warming up, it's the equivalent of speaking about someone behind their back bouncing about outside the toilets and pie stalls.
Secondly, the players need to have a word with themselves, not one of them fit to wear the Hibs jersey. Not one bit of fight, cajoling each other, where's the off the ball stuff gone? Nipping at players giving them bits in the ear, standing on toes, brushing against them, leaving a bit in. Our players are so weak it's frustrating watching it. Guys that have played in many a derby just still don't get it. Absolute sick to the back teeth of watching this crap every single week. Get Neil Francis Lennon back now!! Problem is we won't get him back because Gordon couldn't handle someone speaking up against him. Club is a joke, not my club anymore tbh.

Trinity Hibee
02-01-2023, 08:20 PM
I felt embarrassed today, to the point I'm Considering giving it up, I can accept getting beat by a better side, but today I watched a lack of fight, effort, desire, from fans and players, it was beyond a joke. What's the point first of all of the fans gathering inside singing, preventing fans getting to their seats? Get out in the stand and sing, and build the atmosphere inside the stands that the players can bounce of when warming up, it's the equivalent of speaking about someone behind their back bouncing about outside the toilets and pie stalls.
Secondly, the players need to have a word with themselves, not one of them fit to wear the Hibs jersey. Not one bit of fight, cajoling each other, where's the off the ball stuff gone? Nipping at players giving them bits in the ear, standing on toes, brushing against them, leaving a bit in. Our players are so weak it's frustrating watching it. Guys that have played in many a derby just still don't get it. Absolute sick to the back teeth of watching this crap every single week. Get Neil Francis Lennon back now!! Problem is we won't get him back because Gordon couldn't handle someone speaking up against him. Club is a joke, not my club anymore tbh.

100% agree. I’m also feeling the same. Made no effort to watch the game today or the rangers game the other week. Will use my season ticket for rest of season and, at the moment, it’s looking like I won’t renew (had one the last 18 years). Felt this way for a couple of years now so it isn’t knee jerk but recently it’s been awful to watch. I don’t know how we’ve messed the last 18 months up but attending games now just makes me annoyed.

Some will say good riddance or you’re just fair weather but it’s just not worth it anymore to me. Sick of seeing mediocre players not bother their ***** each week.

I watched the tornadoes documentary the other day and thought imagine having a team that gave their all and dished out hammerings regularly. Maybe not realistic for a Hibs team results wise but lack of effort and aggression is unforgivable. There would be 7-8 better players in the stands at Easter road each week.

Paul1642
02-01-2023, 08:21 PM
Unfortunately we’ve been here too many times before and will be here again.

JammyDoidger
02-01-2023, 08:23 PM
100% agree. I’m also feeling the same. Made no effort to watch the game today or the rangers game the other week. Will use my season ticket for rest of season and, at the moment, it’s looking like I won’t renew (had one the last 18 years). Felt this way for a couple of years now so it isn’t knee jerk but recently it’s been awful to watch. I don’t know how we’ve messed the last 18 months up but attending games now just makes me annoyed.

Some will say good riddance or you’re just fair weather but it’s just not worth it anymore to me. Sick of seeing mediocre players not bother their ***** each week.

I watched the tornadoes documentary the other day and thought imagine having a team that gave their all and dished out hammerings regularly. Maybe not realistic for a Hibs team results wise but lack of effort and aggression is unforgivable. There would be 7-8 better players in the stands at Easter road each week.

This. I felt the tide turn under Stubbs and Lennon and after we had won the cup, Lennon in particular got the derby, turning up a Tynie nearly going for 10 in a row unbeaten, starting guys like Bartley as captain, I mind going in horrible conditions on a horrible park, holt upfront we just done a job. This team I just can't relate to, guys like Youan just aren't for me, I don't know where it's went wrong, well I do, Ron Gordon and his crew, but I just can't watch it anymore this is not my team.

Trinity Hibee
02-01-2023, 08:27 PM
This. I felt the tide turn under Stubbs and Lennon and after we had won the cup, Lennon in particular got the derby, turning up a Tynie nearly going for 10 in a row unbeaten, starting guys like Bartley as captain, I mind going in horrible conditions on a horrible park, holt upfront we just done a job. This team I just can't relate to, guys like Youan just aren't for me, I don't know where it's went wrong, well I do, Ron Gordon and his crew, but I just can't watch it anymore this is not my team.

Part of the issue for me is football in general nowadays. Very slow, fouls all the time, diving, VAR is ruining the game for me. That combined with how we’ve been over the past 18 months is turning me off it all. Finding I’d rather just meet mates in the pub, have a laugh and be home for tea.

JammyDoidger
02-01-2023, 08:28 PM
Part of the issue for me is football in general nowadays. Very slow, fouls all the time, diving, VAR is ruining the game for me. That combined with how we’ve been over the past 18 months is turning me off it all. Finding I’d rather just meet mates in the pub, have a laugh and be home for tea.

Again this, I'm finding the pub more enjoyable and most of mates are the same it's so sad.

wookie70
02-01-2023, 08:35 PM
I'll be considering my next visit to Tiny too. It starts with the Police before you enter the ground. This year's brainwave was a row of 4 horses across the fans to block entry, then moving two out the way to allow fans to pass. Utterly moronic having 4 large animals surrounded by fans on all sides. Next you have to stand and wait on the stairs because a hundred or so fans decide the top of the stairs is the best place for their look at me show where they sing songs that can't be heard by players. The other 7/8ths of the concourse is like a ghost town and needless to say the Police and Stewards are oblivious to something that actually is a problem. Next up was the countless missiles that seem to be thrown whether or not Hibs players are also likely to be hit. I see an image of Shankland's celebration with a Vape flying by his face on my Facebook feed. Fans smoking in the stands, a constant stream of abuse thrown at Newell in particular but also Hanlon and Stevenson most noticeably. A song revelling in the end of Craig Gordon's career and a number of fans smashing seats. The one I called a moron and explained that he would have cost Hibs the price of repair looked so out of it that he looked in need of the seat he had just destroyed. To top that all off we usually wet the bed on the park and the game is rarely enjoyable.

GreenCastle
02-01-2023, 08:43 PM
Fair point about the singing in concourse - why nots do what the German fans do? March to the stadium then fill the stand and sing during warm up.

Folk laugh about us losing our identity but we have. Few years back it felt like we had our club back and had players who understood us - now I feel they just pick up a wage and rarely care. I know some do stuff for the foundation and hospital visits etc but I also feel very few really care and just see us as an easy wage.

Was reading the BBC website earlier - Ryan Stevenson

"We would get on the bus to the stadium and they were playing videos of all the Hearts goals in the derbies, Hearts wins, the Hearts songs playing - you were going to war, basically.
"It was made clear to you how much it meant to the fans; losing was never an option," Stevenson says.
"Even the year we got relegated - 2014 - I remember Hibs coming to Tynecastle knowing a win would relegate us and it was all about how they were coming for a party. The amount of pressure on the young Hearts boys to not get relegated by Hibs...
"I remember going into the changing room and we were all relishing it. We never, ever thought, 'Here we go, we could get relegated today'. It was always just, 'Aye, we'll show them' and we won 2-0.
"In my time at Hearts, we felt Hibs were a bit soft. They had very good players but we had a core of men. Marius Zaliukas, Rudi Skacel, Andy Webster, all boys I would look up to if the games weren't going as well as we'd hoped."

We are still SOFT and I bet today Hearts knew the game was won before it even begun.

Baldy Foghorn
02-01-2023, 08:45 PM
I'll be considering my next visit to Tiny too. It starts with the Police before you enter the ground. This year's brainwave was a row of 4 horses across the fans to block entry, then moving two out the way to allow fans to pass. Utterly moronic having 4 large animals surrounded by fans on all sides. Next you have to stand and wait on the stairs because a hundred or so fans decide the top of the stairs is the best place for their look at me show where they sing songs that can't be heard by players. The other 7/8ths of the concourse is like a ghost town and needless to say the Police and Stewards are oblivious to something that actually is a problem. Next up was the countless missiles that seem to be thrown whether or not Hibs players are also likely to be hit. I see an image of Shankland's celebration with a Vape flying by his face on my Facebook feed. Fans smoking in the stands, a constant stream of abuse thrown at Newell in particular but also Hanlon and Stevenson most noticeably. A song revelling in the end of Craig Gordon's career and a number of fans smashing seats. The one I called a moron and explained that he would have cost Hibs the price of repair looked so out of it that he looked in need of the seat he had just destroyed. To top that all off we usually wet the bed on the park and the game is rarely enjoyable.

Add in the ones standing in the aisles, so those with tickets lower down, couldn't see anything, and the aggro at end of game with Police and Block 7 pushing each other on top of the stair case

Widhibs
02-01-2023, 08:47 PM
I'll be considering my next visit to Tiny too. It starts with the Police before you enter the ground. This year's brainwave was a row of 4 horses across the fans to block entry, then moving two out the way to allow fans to pass. Utterly moronic having 4 large animals surrounded by fans on all sides. Next you have to stand and wait on the stairs because a hundred or so fans decide the top of the stairs is the best place for their look at me show where they sing songs that can't be heard by players. The other 7/8ths of the concourse is like a ghost town and needless to say the Police and Stewards are oblivious to something that actually is a problem. Next up was the countless missiles that seem to be thrown whether or not Hibs players are also likely to be hit. I see an image of Shankland's celebration with a Vape flying by his face on my Facebook feed. Fans smoking in the stands, a constant stream of abuse thrown at Newell in particular but also Hanlon and Stevenson most noticeably. A song revelling in the end of Craig Gordon's career and a number of fans smashing seats. The one I called a moron and explained that he would have cost Hibs the price of repair looked so out of it that he looked in need of the seat he had just destroyed. To top that all off we usually wet the bed on the park and the game is rarely enjoyable.

Seen about 50 different objects chucked on pitch today at varying times, it's gotta stop.

wookie70
02-01-2023, 08:59 PM
Seen about 50 different objects chucked on pitch today at varying times, it's gotta stop.
Unlikely with the Ultra scene being invited to training and appearing on the Hibs official SM feeds.

Mcbizz1998
02-01-2023, 09:06 PM
I'll be considering my next visit to Tiny too. It starts with the Police before you enter the ground. This year's brainwave was a row of 4 horses across the fans to block entry, then moving two out the way to allow fans to pass. Utterly moronic having 4 large animals surrounded by fans on all sides. Next you have to stand and wait on the stairs because a hundred or so fans decide the top of the stairs is the best place for their look at me show where they sing songs that can't be heard by players. The other 7/8ths of the concourse is like a ghost town and needless to say the Police and Stewards are oblivious to something that actually is a problem. Next up was the countless missiles that seem to be thrown whether or not Hibs players are also likely to be hit. I see an image of Shankland's celebration with a Vape flying by his face on my Facebook feed. Fans smoking in the stands, a constant stream of abuse thrown at Newell in particular but also Hanlon and Stevenson most noticeably. A song revelling in the end of Craig Gordon's career and a number of fans smashing seats. The one I called a moron and explained that he would have cost Hibs the price of repair looked so out of it that he looked in need of the seat he had just destroyed. To top that all off we usually wet the bed on the park and the game is rarely enjoyable.

Sounds awful. I haven’t been to Tynecastle since 2014. Mainly due to the behaviour of both sets of fans and Hibs appalling record there.

It sounds like nothing has changed since my last visit, on it off the park.

LewysGot2
02-01-2023, 10:17 PM
Unlikely with the Ultra scene being invited to training and appearing on the Hibs official SM feeds.

That was particularly cringey the training thing. Honestly, what the? Can imagine the ghost of Ned telling them to get the heck out of there.

Going to be hard also for Hibs to send a message about pyro etc at games when there's evidence of this at East Mains...

Everything seems to be done for social media - getting likes on different platforms - includingthe comcourse stuff.