Craig Gordon

[Northernhibee]

All rivalries aside, speedy recovery. A great goalie for the national team.

[MWHIBBIES]

Hope hes out for the season tbh. Benefits Hibs.

[Franck Le God]

As Jambos go, he’s one of the good ones. Hope it’s not as bad as it looks in the photos.


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[CL0762]

The photo is absolutely ****ing horrific.

Would be very very surprised if he ever played again.

[hibee_girl]

Saw the photo on Twitter, looks horrific.

Not the way he’d want his career to end.

[Callyballybe]

Horrible injury. At his age I'd guess potentially career ending. On Xmas eve of all days as well.

As I said, horrible for anyone. Fingers crossed for a speedy enough recovery.

[Lendo]

Hope hes out for the season tbh. Benefits Hibs.

Going by the pictures I’m seeing I think that may sadly be his career done. Rivalries aside, it looks brutal, hope he can recover at some point

[The Modfather]

Hope hes out for the season tbh. Benefits Hibs.

A relatively tame comment, but a little crass IMO. Possibly best to say nothing if not wishing a footballer well after a serious injury IMO.

A good goalkeeper, hope it doesn’t end up making him retire before he was ready to.

[JohnM1875]

Oft. That picture is absolutely horrific. As others have said you don't with that on anyone. Shame for him.

[SHODAN]

Shocking injury and at his age I can't see him coming back from it. Hope he recovers and I genuinely mean that.

[JamesHFC]

Hope hes out for the season tbh. Benefits Hibs.

Agreed. Those time wasting antics in the semi final and the amount of wonder saves he pulls off against us and others. Increases our chances of a win next week and even finishing above them this season.

[Glory Lurker]

Don't like the sound of all this. Wish him well.

[GloryGlory]

Hope hes out for the season tbh. Benefits Hibs.

Not nice to wish that on any player. Remember how we felt when Boyle was ruled out for the season.

I hope Gordon has a quick recovery. But not Derby game quick.

[Northernhibee]

Some utterly classless comments on this thread.

[Northernhibee]

Not nice to wish that on any player. Remember how we felt when Boyle was ruled out for the season.

I hope Gordon has a quick recovery. But not Derby game quick.
Given the injury he’ll be lucky if he plays again.

[marinello59]

Hope hes out for the season tbh. Benefits Hibs.

Horrible comment.

[essexhibee]

Likely to retire after seeing that. Horrible injury.

[Hibees1973]

A great professional and one to admire.

Hope he recovers.

[MrRobot]

If that picture is real that’s a genuinely horrible injury. That could sadly be a career ender.

[cabbageandribs1875]

hopefully not career ending


they do have a very good keeper to stand-in whilst he's out

[Maguire]

Hope hes out for the season tbh. Benefits Hibs.

You do realise football is just a sport yeah? The guy has just snapped his leg which looks to have probably ended his career and to add to that all on Xmas eve.

Can't we just enjoy our victory today and have a bit of class to go with it.

[LunasBoots]

Some utterly classless comments on this thread.

A goalkeeper we can't score against the majority of the time for years out, can see why people are a bit overwhelmed to be fair, hopefully his injury isn't that bad and he makes a recovery

[Jay]

Hope hes out for the season tbh. Benefits Hibs.

Jeez man get a grip.

[MWHIBBIES]

You do realise football is just a sport yeah? The guy has just snapped his leg which looks to have probably ended his career and to add to that all on Xmas eve.

Can't we just enjoy our victory today and have a bit of class to go with it.

Oh yes, speculating about his career is so much nicer as well. I only said I hoped he was out for the season. You lot have retired him.

I know its a sport. He'll be absolutely fine, he's recovered from worse tbh.

[Sir David Gray]

I'm glad he'll be out next week but clearly wouldn't wish that on anyone.

I'd be surprised if he returns from that at his age, looks like a horrific injury from the photo I've seen.

[wookie70]

Looks a career ending injuring at his age. Horrible image to look at and hope he has a full recovery. No doubting it is good for us and bad for Hearts though and we need all teh help we can get.

[LewysGot2]

Hope hes out for the season tbh. Benefits Hibs.

Yikes. If this ends his career this is a poorly timed post.

Anyway, their reserve keeper is Zander Clatk - hardly a massive downgrade...

[The Modfather]

Oh yes, speculating about his career is so much nicer as well. I only said I hoped he was out for the season. You lot have retired him.

I know its a sport. He'll be absolutely fine, he's recovered from worse tbh.

You’ve now doubled down. He’s 39, it’s not hard to see why he probably won’t come back from it at his age. Rather than say nothing, your first thought about someone breaking their leg is to say you hope he is out for the rest of the season. Says more about you than anything IMO.

[Trinity Hibee]

Oh yes, speculating about his career is so much nicer as well. I only said I hoped he was out for the season. You lot have retired him.

I know its a sport. He'll be absolutely fine, he's recovered from worse tbh.

😂😂 really?

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

It was an accidental coming together from two committed players in the twilight of their careers. Really bad fortune for Gordon, wish him a speedy recovery. Rivalry’s aside, he’s a brilliant keeper, had he not suffered from so many injuries then he could have been up there with the worlds best.

[MWHIBBIES]

You’ve now doubled down. He’s 39, it’s not hard to see why he probably won’t come back from it at his age. Rather than say nothing, your first thought about someone breaking their leg is to say you hope he is out for the rest of the season. Says more about you than anything IMO.

Sorry. I hope he is back next week and gets MOTM.

If its a broken leg, he will likely be fit to go again next season. Bones mend. I honestly don't hope it finishes the guy or anything serious, just enough for them to really miss him and us to benefit.

[Vault Boy]

Hope hes out for the season tbh. Benefits Hibs.

Dreadful comment.

Wishing Craig the best, horrible image. A Scotland legend in my eyes.

[tamig]

The photo is absolutely ****ing horrific.

Would be very very surprised if he ever played again.

There have been many horrendous looking leg break pics over the years. I remember seeing Henrik Larssons on tv and he came back better than before the injury. Appreciate that Gordon is older but if he wants to continue playing he should be able to return.

[Sir David Gray]

Yikes. If this ends his career this is a poorly timed post.

Anyway, their reserve keeper is Zander Clatk - hardly a massive downgrade...

I'd say it's enough of a downgrade to have enough of an effect on the rest of their season.

Gordon is an excellent goalkeeper and seems to always save his best form for the derbies. Clark's decent but I don't think he will have the same impact.

[LewysGot2]

I'd say it's enough of a downgrade to have enough of an effect on the rest of their season.

Gordon is an excellent goalkeeper and seems to always save his best form for the derbies. Clark's decent but I don't think he will have the same impact.

Not going to jinx things but I'm pretty sure his record against us when at Saints was pretty impressive too.

Time will tell. Lack of first team football might figure more than ability

[steviehibsleith]

Picture looks bad. All the best on a speedy and full recovery.
74 Scotland caps.

[The Modfather]

Sorry. I hope he is back next week and gets MOTM.

If its a broken leg, he will likely be fit to go again next season. Bones mend. I honestly don't hope it finishes the guy or anything serious, just enough for them to really miss him and us to benefit.

I don’t think you’re covering yourself in glory on this thread, but I’ll leave it there and agree to disagree.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Hopefully he will be back. Shame for him and his family that he will be in hospital for Christmas Day. All decent fans will wish him well.

[BILLYHIBS]

Looked a sore one

Brilliant goalkeeper

Get well soon Craig

Well not too soon 😀

[He's here!]

Horrible comment.

Not necessarily. I didn't see any of today's football and only read that Hearts had 3 players taken off injured. I might have said something similar without knowing the seriousness of the injury.

Never liked the guy in the same way as I don't like any Hearts players but obviously I wouldn't wish a potentially career ending injury on any player.

[heidtheba]

Ouch, that's a bad one.
I met him once whilst walking my dog. He was with his wee girls. I didn't recognise him at first and we didn't talk football, he was just a really decent bloke out with his girls and his dog.
Hope he recovers.

[Ryan91]

Seen the image on social media - legs aren't supposed to look like that, it's a horror injury, if he's back playing again at this level, I'd be very surprised.

Wish him a speedy recovery, awkward for the national team, wonder if Marshall fancies un-retiring from international duty?

[cjward2]

Jings, that looks brutal!! Sad to see any human, let alone a professional athlete suffer such an injury. I hope he makes a good recovery, but the pictures show something that could be career ending. Really feel sorry for both him and his family for such a thing to happen and on Christmas Eve.

[BSEJVT]

tbh I have never really liked Craig Gordon, I think the Derby he got Shiels sent off is responsible for that.

What he has been though is a fantastic goalie for both Hearts and Scotland and after a couple of years of looking like he was finished with injury troubles, it said a lot for him to come back to former glory and to sustain his career for as long as he has at the top level.

Getting dumped by Celtic couldn't have been easy but again he overcame this and probably reached new heights.

He will be a massive miss for Scotland.

It looks like an awful injury and it will take a great deal to come back from, but if he wants it enough hopefully he will be able to do so.

Never a good thing seeing any player getting injured, and from a family perspective dreadful timing.

Hope he makes a full and quick recovery and does with the rest of his life what he wants to.

[TheHarpy76]

There are a handful of players that wouldn’t bother me if they got a serious injury (I’m. It going to name them).
Craig Gordon isn’t one of them.

That looked an absolute shocker of an injury and a likely career ending one.

I’m sure Hearts will look after him. Fingers crossed for a speedy recovery.

[The Spaceman]

An exceptionally good goalkeeper who has had a brilliant career. Longevity has been amazing too. That looks really, really bad and hope he makes a full recovery/is able to play again.

[loanheadhibby]

Hope hes out for the season tbh. Benefits Hibs.

Why am I not surprised you've come out with that.

[Pretty Boy]

If the picture doing the rounds isn't just a bad angle then he's done. That's a sickener.

[CossackBossack]

Oft. That picture is absolutely horrific. As others have said you don't with that on anyone. Shame for him.

Thothages, [emoji102]

All that aside looks a bad break , at his age is it worth attempting a comeback ?, best to probably get involved in his other interests. ***** way to possibly play your last game, benefits us as he’s been the difference over the last few seasons .


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[Baader]

Horrific looking injury. Hopefully he manages to come back from it.

[Billy Whizz]

If it’s a bad leg break, he won’t be playing until next season at the earliest
He’s had lots of bad injuries over the years and came back from them
Hope for his and Scotlands sake he can do it again. Going to leave a big hole in the Scotland side, unless Marshall decides to play again if asked

[MartinfaePorty]

As a Scotland fan I wish him a speedy recovery. Going forward, it makes the decision not to play another keeper against Turkey look ridiculous. Unless Marshall gets persuaded out of retirement, we go into the Euro 2024 qualifiers with an untried no.1.

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[dp00]

Horrific injury hope he recovers, guys got young kids one of them it being there first and and likely gonna spend Christmas in hospital

Some of the stuff posted on social media about him is shocking. Thought we were better than that


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[Alfred E Newman]

Hope hes out for the season tbh. Benefits Hibs.

No need man. Don't stoop to their level.

[LeithMike]

Hope Craig recovers quickly. My son does football at the Oriam and we’ve seen Craig Gordon a couple of times and he’s always given my son a huge smile.


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[Johnny_Leith]

Saw the picture. That's a horrible break. Have met Craig a few times now and he's a gentleman, it'll be difficult to come back at his age but given his history of coming back from injury, I wouldn't rule him out. Wishing him a speedy recovery.

[green day]

Horrible injury.

That's his career over, I'm afraid.

[HNA11]

Can we please remember that Craig Gordon may well be a rival player but he's also a human being. Let's keep things respectable.

[overdrive]

That looks horrific. Can’t see him coming back from that at all.

[J-C]

Seen the pic on FB and TBH I wish I hadn't, it looks horrific and anyone not wishing him well needs to have a word with themselves. I've met Craig a few times and he's a really nice bloke.

[Northernhibee]

Big blow for the national team ahead of Euro qualification too.

[Eyrie]

By all accounts Gordon is a good guy so I wish him well for a full recovery.

[hibeelady]

Horrible horrible injury☹️. I’m 13 months down the line from a very similar leg break and still going through recovery. I wish him a speedy recovery.

[zitelli62]

Hope for a speedy recovery by all accounts a good guy but doesn't look good sadly at his age injury take a lot longer to recover wish him well though.

[Alfred E Newman]

Some predictably disgusting comments from some of the brainless low lives that frequent the cess pit that is twitter.
I actually feel sorry for them.

[CentreLine]

Awful looking break. Don’t want to see that for anyone. Only from the picture but it looks like the Dundee Utd player was very late. Did VAR have an opinion?

Regardless, I hope he makes a full recovery

[SteveHFC]

Some predictably disgusting comments from some of the brainless low lives that frequent the cess pit that is twitter.
I actually feel sorry for them.

Aye just seen a few of them.

[percy veer]

Horrible injury but he's a quick mender the way he recovered from the semi final injuries showed just that

[EskbankHibby]

Dreadful injury.

All the best to him.

[Donegal Hibby]

I don't mind seeing our rivals with there better players out due to minor injuries or suspensions if it helps Hibs in games and even though the hertz fans weren't very nice about it when we lost Boyle I refuse to lower my standards as a Hibs fan and wouldn't wish this kind of injury on any player at any club , the players are only human beings with families after all . So I for one wish Graig Gordon all the best in his recovery.

[green day]

Horrible injury but he's a quick mender the way he recovered from the semi final injuries showed just that

He's not recovering from that.

[Just Alf]

That's horrific... Good luck to him hope he can make a full recovery.

[gogsy23]

horrible injury. wouldnt wish it on anyone. hopefully its not career ending.

[Broken Gnome]

Big blow for the national team ahead of Euro qualification too.

Could be said that can force Scotland's hand a bit - potentially a long shot he'd still be at the standards required for another qualifying plus a tournament, so we'll just have to face up to the fact he was needing replaced at some point. Time to bed someone else in.

I've no time for at all, borne partially out of bitterness at some of the points/semi finals he's cost us, but disgusting to see. Players like that deserve to leave the game in the way they want, rather than it being forced on them.

[judas]

Have to admit that my first reaction to finding out that Gordon was injured was ‘oh good, he’s worth at least 12 points a season to Hearts’.

But having seen the actual injury, it made me think again.

That said, the sanctimony on here is laughable.

[DIXIHIBS]

Got to laugh at the nuggets on keekback complaining about some of the comments about Gordon. Terrible injury and dont wish that on any player. Been at hibs club after game and vast majority feel the same. But the comments from hertz fans after Boyle got injured were disgusting and the same clowns moaning about the same things being said about Gordon. They dont do irony down gorgie way do they.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

They are in a fortunate position to have clarke as back up. Sure there be a few saying he's *****, but he's not really

[jeffers]

All the best to him, he’s won Hearts many a game against us but I’ve never disliked Craig Gordon. I remember Son tackled an Everton player (the name escapes me) and his injury looked similar. That player recovered and I hope Craig Gordon does too.

[Hibs3-2]

Unlucky 👍

[Hibeewilly]

Horrific looking injury. All the best Craig for as speedy a recovery as possible....

[Mcbizz1998]

I really dislike the man, which is the best compliment I can give him as a Hibs fan. Great keeper and despite the benefit to Hibs, his injury is brutal.

Good luck to him.

[Mcbizz1998]

Awful looking break. Don’t want to see that for anyone. Only from the picture but it looks like the Dundee Utd player was very late. Did VAR have an opinion?

Regardless, I hope he makes a full recovery

Was it Fletcher?

[WeeRussell]

Was it Fletcher?

Fletcher was the player involved in the incident but didn’t do anything wrong.

[tamig]

They are in a fortunate position to have clarke as back up. Sure there be a few saying he's *****, but he's not really

Zander Clark really isn’t a great keeper. A couple of purple patches that covered the best part of two seasons but he’s an average keeper at best. Stats will back that up if you’re interested. Gordon will be a massive loss for them. No doubt about that whatsoever.

[Kato]

Got to laugh at the nuggets on keekback complaining about some of the comments about Gordon. Terrible injury and dont wish that on any player. Been at hibs club after game and vast majority feel the same. But the comments from hertz fans after Boyle got injured were disgusting and the same clowns moaning about the same things being said about Gordon. They dont do irony down gorgie way do they.They forget the night they celebrated Griffiths going off injured like they had just scored. A weird bunch.

Hope their goalie is OK. Looks a bad one.

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[Pete]

Don't care who he plays for or if he's coming up against us or not. That's not the sort of injury you wish on anybody, especially on Christmas, which he'll probably spend on an operating table.
People taking pleasure in this obviously haven't seen the image or are a bit immature. Some people are not showing Hibs class

[HFC93]

I wish him all the best but I remember lots of weird Hearts fans laughing at Boyle's season ending injury a few weeks ago.

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[Donegal Hibby]

Just seen a picture of the Craig Gordon incident and could hardly look at it . Also some awful sick comments being made about it , I will never understand some people's lack of compassion for there fellow man . Really sorry this has happened to Craig Gordon .

[loanheadhibby]

I wish him all the best but I remember lots of weird Hearts fans laughing at Boyle's season ending injury a few weeks ago.

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When were they laughing at the Boyle injury?
You're talking rubbish.

[BoomtownHibees]

When were they laughing at the Boyle injury?
You're talking rubbish.

Hibs = bad
Hearts = good

[DIXIHIBS]

When were they laughing at the Boyle injury?
You're talking rubbish.

I assume thats a tongue in cheek comment? They were all over boyles injury like a rash. Some extreme stuff.

[-Jonesy-]

Gordon has jumped into Fletcher like he’s dive bombing into a swimming pool. No idea how his leg has splintered from the contact. Not saying he deserved the injury but he’s gone steaming in to try and take out the other guy recklessly.

[21.05.2016]

Glad he’s out the derby as he’s a cracking keeper and he’s gotten that mob out of jail many a time in derbies but certainly don’t wish serious injury on anyone no matter who they are or who they play for. The photo doing the rounds looks horrific, not nice to see.

[AltheHibby]

When were they laughing at the Boyle injury?
You're talking rubbish.

I can't find the tweet at the moment, but a Jambo complaining about the lowlife Hibs fans who are celebrating was pulled up for laughing at Boyler's injury.

As far as I'm concerned, as much as I dislike him as a player, I will never be happy seeing any sportsman suffer a career ending injury, and any Hibs fan enjoying what happened can just sod off.

[hibsbollah]

An injury like that is a horrible thing.Get well soon. Great keeper. We’ll still **** them over in the derby.

[Pretty Boy]

When were they laughing at the Boyle injury?
You're talking rubbish.

A minority did, as it's a minority of Hibs fans revelling in this.

It's neither here nor there anyway. It's the 'well they do it so why shouldn't we do it' that creates the cyclical issues with Celtic and Rangers and leads to the problem never getting resolved.

It's the kind of thing we would be best served by rising above.

[Stairway 2 7]

Seeing the injury it would be stupid to say anything negative. Tremendous keeping unfortunately for us. That seems to be it for his career though

[Kato]

When were they laughing at the Boyle injury?
You're talking rubbish.No. You're talking rubbish.

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[brog]

Hibs = bad
Hearts = good

Yep, he's relentless.

[Hector Mudflap]

Some utterly classless comments on this thread.

Agreed- feels almost from people wanting a reaction :rolleyes:

[wookie70]

After watching it on Sportscene surely a retrospective red coming Gordon's way. A horrible challenge by him and every outfield player would get a red for leaving the ground, recklessly and dangerously.

[B.H.F.C]

After watching it on Sportscene surely a retrospective red coming Gordon's way. A horrible challenge by him and every outfield player would get a red for leaving the ground, recklessly and dangerously.

Injury aside, I can’t believe the penalty got overturned.

[Donegal Hibby]

When were they laughing at the Boyle injury?
You're talking rubbish.
They actually were laughing and gloating about Boyles injury on there forum , seen it myself , though some of the more sensible ones condemned them . Suppose it's just something that both clubs have in people that are just so narrow minded and can't have some compassion for a rival player getting badly hurt , personally I choose to raise above such hatred as it's not what being a football fan is all about for me .

[Crunchie]

As Jambos go, he’s one of the good ones. Hope it’s not as bad as it looks in the photos.


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I've never liked him since he conned the ref into sending Deano off at tynie.

[Davy Mac]

Anybody who has played the game at any level would never wish an injury like this to any player, no matter the rivalry.

Not sure if this will be career ending but it may affect his way of life, so all the best with your recovery Craig.

[MartinfaePorty]

I've never liked him since he conned the ref into sending Deano off at tynie.Fair enough, but I was right behind it and thought why the ***** is Shiels fighting him for the ball when he's just brought us back from 2 down at Tynie.

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[HIBERNIAN-0762]

When were they laughing at the Boyle injury?
You're talking rubbish.

No he isn't

[Crunchie]

Fair enough, but I was right behind it and thought why the ***** is Shiels fighting him for the ball when he's just brought us back from 2 down at Tynie.

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He wanted to go for a 3rd I presume? Deano was a bit foolish rushing in like that but the diver extraordinaire done him over and conned the ref, the prick couldn't hide his smile for the rest of that game.

[HendoDelivered]

Speedy recovery Craig.

[CapitalGreen]

He wanted to go for a 3rd I presume? Deano was a bit foolish rushing in like that but the diver extraordinaire done him over and conned the ref, the prick couldn't hide his smile for the rest of that game.

Yup, Gordon saw Shiels running to get the ball and stepped into his path to create the contact. Always thought he was a prick since then.

Replay at 4:10 on the video below.

https://youtu.be/QTw53u7_VFs

[Sylar]

An utterly grotesque looking injury to a truly brilliant goalkeeper - I do hope he makes a full and speedy recovery, but do fear the worst for him.

Any talk about advantages is in exceptionally poor taste IMO.

[hibsbollah]

Yup, Gordon saw Shiels running to get the ball and stepped into his path to create the contact. Always thought he was a prick since then.

Replay at 4:10 on the video below.

https://youtu.be/QTw53u7_VFs

Soccer Professionals trying to gain advantage by exaggerating the extent of an injury? Unprecedented :greengrin

[Crunchie]

Soccer Professionals trying to gain advantage by exaggerating the extent of an injury? Unprecedented :greengrin
He wasn't injured, he was faking it, as he's done numerous times during his career. Keep up son.

[CapitalGreen]

Soccer Professionals trying to gain advantage by exaggerating the extent of an injury? Unprecedented :greengrin

I never said anything about him exaggerating an injury.

[Silky]

Horrible injury, wouldn't wish that on anyone. Great keeper for them and for Scotland. Rivalries aside, I wish him a speedy recovery. As much as I despise him when he plays for Hertz, as a father myself he's spending Christmas day in a hospital away from his kids with a horrific injury. That's the saddest part for me.

[Benny Brazil]

One of the best keepers I have seen, horrible pictures of his injury, not matter how big the rivalry is I would never wish that on anyone - really hope he is able to recover from it and that his career isn't over because of it

[Zambernardi1875]

Karma gets us all in the end

[Callum_62]

Karma gets us all in the endPoor form that

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[hibsbollah]

I never said anything about him exaggerating an injury.

If you’re going to play the daft pedantic game, I never said he was exaggerating an injury either, I said the ‘extent’ of an injury.

The point still holds. Most players do that and similar in the modern game. That’s what makes them professional.

[erin go bragh]

Hope hes out for the season tbh. Benefits Hibs.

As much as a good few of them took delight over Boyles injury and yes it definitely weakens them . Potentially a career finishing injury like that should not be glorified by anyone. It’s the season of goodwill. And I wish him a speedy recovery.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Bloody horrible looking injury from the picture. No matter what you think of Hearts it simply cant be denied what a superb keeper the guy has been for them and Scotland of course.

I wish the guy no ill will as a person and hope he makes a full recovery. But there's no denying this is a big loss to Hearts, the guy has spent the last two seasons putting in performances that have gained them around 10 points they might not have had in each of them, yes they have a decent back up keeper, but this will still have an effect on them and in view of the fact that we face them twice next month I can't say I'm sorry he wont be between the sticks.

[Kato]

After watching it on Sportscene surely a retrospective red coming Gordon's way. A horrible challenge by him and every outfield player would get a red for leaving the ground, recklessly and dangerously.He has a habit of jumping into opponents and winning fouls. One that sticks in my mind was Parkhead. Ball dropping to Efe in the box and jumped right into his back clattering Efe and himself. Foul Celtic, sore one for Ambrose and a long term injury for Gordon.

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[Baader]

Karma gets us all in the end

Karma for what? Don't recall him breaking someone's leg.

[MB62]

Some utterly classless comments on this thread.

Agree totally. That looks horrendous, at any time of the year, but he might end up spending Christmas in hospital with the thought his career might be over 😥
His only 'crime' is he plays for our local rivals but the guy is a different class keeper and apparently nice person.
This is the season of good will to all, please let's show this (although it shouldn't need to be Christmas to show good will, especially in these situations)
All the very best for a full recovery to Craig
GGTTH

[Kato]

Karma for what? Don't recall him breaking someone's leg.He broke his own today. Horrible way to challenge for the ball. Fletcher is lucky to walk away.

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[Donegal Hibby]

Agree totally. That looks horrendous, at any time of the year, but he might end up spending Christmas in hospital with the thought his career might be over 😥
His only 'crime' is he plays for our local rivals but the guy is a different class keeper and apparently nice person.
This is the season of good will to all, please let's show this (although it shouldn't need to be Christmas to show good will, especially in these situations)
All the very best for a full recovery to Craig
GGTTH
Totally agree , Great post :top marks .All the best Craig .

[Hibbyradge]

When were they laughing at the Boyle injury?
You're talking rubbish.

Good post

Proving, once again, that there's no chance you're a hertz supporter.

[madhatter]

He broke his own today. Horrible way to challenge for the ball. Fletcher is lucky to walk away.

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Reminded me of the Pickford challenge on Van Dijk. Goalkeepers putting in horrendous challenges seems to be allowed. Should've been a penalty and a red card. His terrible injury seems to have swayed the officials.

It's quite embarrassing and ridiculous when you compare Gordon's challenge on Fletcher to the penalty Hearts got. Brute force, uncontrolled, contact vs little to no contact.

[Stuarty1875]

Horrible injury. Wishing him a speedy recovery.

[RIP]

When were they laughing at the Boyle injury?
You're talking rubbish.

We only keep you around for the irony.

As for the Big Man, one of the best No.1's in my time, all the best Craig.

[HibeeMackenzie]

He’s probably the best Scottish goalie in living memory(29 year old) j wouldn’t wish that injury on anyone that isn’t called Rudi Skacel, his career is over and no one deserves to see their career end lien that, especially when he fought back from the brink 10+ years ago. He’ll always be ugly he’ll always be one of them but I’ll wish him the best and hope he can make a full recovery

[EdinMike]

Feel for the guy, hope he can make a recovery (not against us) at 39 it’ll be a struggle !

[Capt Mainwaring]

Bad injury and wouldn’t wish it on any player regardless of who he played for.

[mjhibby]

Gordon has jumped into Fletcher like he’s dive bombing into a swimming pool. No idea how his leg has splintered from the contact. Not saying he deserved the injury but he’s gone steaming in to try and take out the other guy recklessly.

In fairness to Gordon many keepers are coming out that way but I agree his knees were very high. Budgie was like that but he was built like a tank so put the fear into opponents. Looks a terrible injury that could be career ending. All the best Craig. Will be interesting to see how they cope without him. He has saved them as many points as roughie did for us. With halkett constantly on the treatment table can see them dropping a good few points. Anybodys guess who will be third to 6th right now. Probably the team with the least injuries.

[mjhibby]

Fletcher was the player involved in the incident but didn’t do anything wrong.

Both players totally focused on the ball. No way fletcher in any way to blame. An unfortunate accident.

[HoboHarry]

Hope hes out for the season tbh. Benefits Hibs.
I've pretty much stopped posting on here because of the classless posts that have become way too common on a daily basis, but even for you that's a new low. Family man has broken his leg (badly) on Christmas Eve and that's your first response? You should be ashamed of yourself but I somehow doubt you will be. Jambo or not, I wouldn't relish seeing anyone go through that and I hope the big fella makes a quick and complete recovery.

[Brightside]

I've pretty much stopped posting on here because of the classless posts that have become way too common on a daily basis, but even for you that's a new low. Family man has broken his leg (badly) on Christmas Eve and that's your first response? You should be ashamed of yourself but I somehow doubt you will be. Jambo or not, I wouldn't relish seeing anyone go through that and I hope the big fella makes a quick and complete recovery.

He’s broken his leg. Not lost it. Let’s not over play it. Most of us have broken a limb at some point. Life goes on.

[Nicho87]

Horrible injury.

His antics in the semi final last season and tynie with Dean Shiels will never be forgotten though.

Speedy recovery.

[MWHIBBIES]

I've pretty much stopped posting on here because of the classless posts that have become way too common on a daily basis, but even for you that's a new low. Family man has broken his leg (badly) on Christmas Eve and that's your first response? You should be ashamed of yourself but I somehow doubt you will be. Jambo or not, I wouldn't relish seeing anyone go through that and I hope the big fella makes a quick and complete recovery.

Even for me, as if I normally post things like this?

Can I ask why it's so classless? He's hearts best player and captain right? Why would we want him fit? He's no dead remember. Let's behave ourselves with this sanctimonious pish eh. Guys a millionaire who has hurt his leg. I'll save my sympathy. He'll be absolutely ****ing fine. I didn't wish it on him, I hope it doesn't end his career, I hope he walks again, and I also hope he doesn't play against Hibs again this season. That's all I said.

[green day]

Bit disappointed (although not really surprised) at Neilsons post match comments.

Moaning about the length of time it took to review it and saying it was "obvious " that Gordon got their first (i.e. hinting it is maybe Fletchers fault).

He has always been a classless erse and with that haircut now looks like a classless thug erse.

Best wishes to Gordon, smashing player for Hearts and Scotland.

[Since452]

Even for me, as if I normally post things like this?

Can I ask why it's so classless? He's hearts best player and captain right? Why would we want him fit? He's no dead remember. Let's behave ourselves with this sanctimonious pish eh. Guys a millionaire who has hurt his leg. I'll save my sympathy. He'll be absolutely ****ing fine. I didn't wish it on him, I hope it doesn't end his career, I hope he walks again, and I also hope he doesn't play against Hibs again this season. That's all I said.

Agree. Fantastic player, Hearts captain and repeatedly pulls off world class saves against us. I'm sorry for him that he's incurred a horrible injury but I'm absolutely delighted he won't be playing for them for a while.

[JimBHibees]

Injury aside, I can’t believe the penalty got overturned.

Gordon got the ball however difficult one to judge when both players flying into the challenge. My view would be just one of those things and the sort of heavy collision which can commonly take place without there being a foul. Hope Craig comes back as he has had an excellent career for both Hearts and Scotland.

[JimBHibees]

An utterly grotesque looking injury to a truly brilliant goalkeeper - I do hope he makes a full and speedy recovery, but do fear the worst for him.

Any talk about advantages is in exceptionally poor taste IMO.

Totally agree classless and poor.

[Hibrandenburg]

Local rivalry shouldn't play any role in expressing sympathy towards someone experiencing that kind of injury. No matter what you feel about Hearts, he's been an astounding professional for them and is guaranteed legendary status amongst their support and rightly so. Hope he makes a full recovery.

[JimBHibees]

I've pretty much stopped posting on here because of the classless posts that have become way too common on a daily basis, but even for you that's a new low. Family man has broken his leg (badly) on Christmas Eve and that's your first response? You should be ashamed of yourself but I somehow doubt you will be. Jambo or not, I wouldn't relish seeing anyone go through that and I hope the big fella makes a quick and complete recovery.

Good post agree with every word

[hibeg]

Horrible injury, hope he recovers quickly.
The save he made from Fletcher header in second half was world class.
Unlucky for Hearts and Scotland.

[Col2]

Terrible injury and wish him all the best and a full recovery. He can look back proudly on a fantastic career.

I do notice Hearts fans and now players (Humpries) are turning this into a blame/anger thing given they have picked up on a small number of idiots who have taken pleasure in CG injury. It’s always someone else’s fault with Hearts, I am fully expecting a long winded statement from gorgie towers having a dig at us and Neilson using it as motivation for 2nd Jan.

[The dalmeny]

Both players totally focused on the ball. No way fletcher in any way to blame. An unfortunate accident.

Very much this, I hope Gordon fully recovers, likewise Fletcher, not sure how bad his was.

[B.H.F.C]

Gordon got the ball however difficult one to judge when both players flying into the challenge. My view would be just one of those things and the sort of heavy collision which can commonly take place without there being a foul. Hope Craig comes back as he has had an excellent career for both Hearts and Scotland.

Fletcher doesn’t really put in a challenge though. Gordon came flying out, completely off the ground feet up. It’s just one of those things that goalies seem to be allowed to do. The injury itself is a total freak, the way he comes out is probably something he’s done every week of his career.

[Kato]

Fletcher doesn’t really put in a challenge though. Gordon came flying out, completely off the ground feet up. It’s just one of those things that goalies seem to be allowed to do. The injury itself is a total freak, the way he comes out is probably something he’s done every week of his career.Gordon jumps into Fletcher. Foul and pen. Whether he got the ball or not doesn't matter.

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[sadtom]

While I am always happy to give any jambo stick while they are on the pitch (that’s what fitba rivalry is all about and I would expect nothing different from hertz fans) I take zero pleasure in hearing about the seriousness of CG’s injury.
In all honesty when I heard folk at the game saying he had been taken off injured I initially and selfishly thought ‘that could be a bonus if he misses the game on the 2nd. Be good if he’s still out for the cup game too’.
But that is a reflection as to how highly I rate the guy and how important a player he is for them.
After leaving the game the news started to filter through as to how serious and grim the injury was, I even started to feel a bit guilty in hoping he’d be out for a month.

I reckon if he had stayed injury free he may have managed to play for another couple of seasons at most.
The older you get the longer things take to heal (and the bloody sorer everything is too) and looking at the horrific photo, there could also be complications, ligament damage etc. With that in mind I think its highly unlikely that he will ever play again at all, never mind at this level.
Even if his op goes really well, would he be prepared to put himself through what could easily be 6-12 months rehab in the hope that he could manage another 6-12 months of playing once he’s recovered? I’m not sure I would.

The guy has been an outstanding keeper for 2 decades and he absolutely does not deserve to have his career ended like this. There is a fair part on me that hopes that he is able to to get fit enough even to take the field one last time to get a proper send off from their support.

As for some making dodgy comments etc I don’t really pay any heed to what is ‘daft laddiness’. Usually just younger fans trying to be offensive, edgy and attention seeking (we’ve probably all been guilty of similar at some point in our lives). Best ignored.

At the very least I hope that he recovers enough that he has no major issues with his mobility in his day-to-day life.

All the best for a full recovery Craig and thanks for the memories of the many excellent Scotland performances (but not so much the derby ones 😉)

[hibby6270]

Gordon’s importance to Hertz was brilliantly highlighted in their game yesterday before the injury. 2 great saves from Fletcher headers and a couple of other goalbound efforts saved by him. He probably picks up more points for them than the likes of Shankland scoring his dubious penalty awards.

Sincerely hope he recovers from what looks a horrific injury. However, at his age, any comeback will likely be short lived and possibly for sentimental reasons on their part.

[greenginger]

Zander Clark is a pretty good replacement going by past performances for St Johnston

[RyeSloan]

Zander Clark is a pretty good replacement going by past performances for St Johnston

Pretty good might be a reasonable assessment. No where near the same level might also be true.

[JohnM1875]

Pretty good might be a reasonable assessment. No where near the same level might also be true.

Agree. Think Clark is an alright premiership level keeper. But nowhere near the level of Gordon. I also appreciate it's a pretty daft time to say something like that considering he'll be playing against us in a week 😂

[Dashing Bob S]

A blow to Hearts for sure. Gordon has been outstanding for them.

[RyeSloan]

Agree. Think Clark is an alright premiership level keeper. But nowhere near the level of Gordon. I also appreciate it's a pretty daft time to say something like that considering he'll be playing against us in a week [emoji23]

Aye it is daft [emoji1787]

I might be imagining it but I’m sure Clark seemed to put in some of his best StJ performances when playing us.

There was defo one occasion where he was absolutely outstanding against us and we ended up with the usual draw or narrow defeat against them….then the next game they played he threw one in the net and was all round garbage.

So yup, very much expecting him to pop up with a world class performance against us and we’ll
have to console ourselves later on when gradually he shows the rest of the league that Craig Gordon he ain’t.

[sleeping giant]

Meh

[Scouse Hibee]

Bit disappointed (although not really surprised) at Neilsons post match comments.

Moaning about the length of time it took to review it and saying it was "obvious " that Gordon got their first (i.e. hinting it is maybe Fletchers fault).

He has always been a classless erse and with that haircut now looks like a classless thug erse.

Best wishes to Gordon, smashing player for Hearts and Scotland.

He wasn’t hinting that Fletcherwasat fault at all, was referring to the penalty decision nothing else.

[ACLeith]

While I am always happy to give any jambo stick while they are on the pitch (that’s what fitba rivalry is all about and I would expect nothing different from hertz fans) I take zero pleasure in hearing about the seriousness of CG’s injury.
In all honesty when I heard folk at the game saying he had been taken off injured I initially and selfishly thought ‘that could be a bonus if he misses the game on the 2nd. Be good if he’s still out for the cup game too’.
But that is a reflection as to how highly I rate the guy and how important a player he is for them.
After leaving the game the news started to filter through as to how serious and grim the injury was, I even started to feel a bit guilty in hoping he’d be out for a month.

I reckon if he had stayed injury free he may have managed to play for another couple of seasons at most.
The older you get the longer things take to heal (and the bloody sorer everything is too) and looking at the horrific photo, there could also be complications, ligament damage etc. With that in mind I think its highly unlikely that he will ever play again at all, never mind at this level.
Even if his op goes really well, would he be prepared to put himself through what could easily be 6-12 months rehab in the hope that he could manage another 6-12 months of playing once he’s recovered? I’m not sure I would.

The guy has been an outstanding keeper for 2 decades and he absolutely does not deserve to have his career ended like this. There is a fair part on me that hopes that he is able to to get fit enough even to take the field one last time to get a proper send off from their support.

As for some making dodgy comments etc I don’t really pay any heed to what is ‘daft laddiness’. Usually just younger fans trying to be offensive, edgy and attention seeking (we’ve probably all been guilty of similar at some point in our lives). Best ignored.

At the very least I hope that he recovers enough that he has no major issues with his mobility in his day-to-day life.

All the best for a full recovery Craig and thanks for the memories of the many excellent Scotland performances (but not so much the derby ones 😉)

Agree with your words 100%. There will be incidents he will look back on and perhaps regret, but he has been a player who transcends rivalries and commanded respect.If only he had been born into a Hibee family!

[Gmack7]

I like Craig Gordon, I alwsys have, I said to one of my best mates many years ago that he would be the most capped Scotland player in history, he would have barring injuries, I am gutted for him at the severity of his injury at this stage of his career, but the fact is we have a better chance when he's not playing, that's football

[matty_f]

Gordon jumps into Fletcher. Foul and pen. Whether he got the ball or not doesn't matter.

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It’s a red card all day long.

Porteous got the ball and a red card at Ibrox, his tackle was nowhere near as dangerous as Gordon’s. When Porteous got his red card against Rangers at Easter Rd, folk defended him saying he got the ball first and were (rightly) corrected that it didn’t matter.

Gordon should be getting a retrospective red for the challenge.

[Scouse Hibee]

It’s a red card all day long.

Porteous got the ball and a red card at Ibrox, his tackle was nowhere near as dangerous as Gordon’s. When Porteous got his red card against Rangers at Easter Rd, folk defended him saying he got the ball first and were (rightly) corrected that it didn’t matter.

Gordon should be getting a retrospective red for the challenge.

No chance that was a penalty or a red card, two players committed to the ball, keeper got there first and then both players collided. A retrospective red! 😂🎣

[He's here!]

Gordon jumps into Fletcher. Foul and pen. Whether he got the ball or not doesn't matter.

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Having just watched the incident I agree. Can only assume the ref overturned it out when he saw how badly injured Gordon was. Clear penalty and a red card.

[Donegal Hibby]

It’s a red card all day long.

Porteous got the ball and a red card at Ibrox, his tackle was nowhere near as dangerous as Gordon’s. When Porteous got his red card against Rangers at Easter Rd, folk defended him saying he got the ball first and were (rightly) corrected that it didn’t matter.

Gordon should be getting a retrospective red for the challenge.


No chance that was a penalty or a red card, two players committed to the ball, keeper got there first and then both players collided. A retrospective red! 😂🎣
I've looked at this a few times and came to the conclusion that both players are firmly focused on winning the ball at speed , no malice or badness in this from either player and imo just really bad luck. Wish both players well .
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12774225/dundee-united-2-2-hearts-scottish-premiership-highlights

[GonzoReturns]

It’s a red card all day long.

Porteous got the ball and a red card at Ibrox, his tackle was nowhere near as dangerous as Gordon’s. When Porteous got his red card against Rangers at Easter Rd, folk defended him saying he got the ball first and were (rightly) corrected that it didn’t matter.

Gordon should be getting a retrospective red for the challenge.

Behave, never mind you won’t come back from this but here’s another couple of games suspension for good measures!!! Sometimes it’s better to not talk about football in the context of an injury like that. Actually it’s embarrassing especially when you have a decent podcast audience. Hey ho sure it will add a few more to your audience. Ill apologies now if it is all tongue cheek.

[matty_f]

Behave, never mind you won’t come back from this but here’s another couple of games suspension for good measures!!! Sometimes it’s better to not talk about football in the context of an injury like that. Actually it’s embarrassing especially when you have a decent podcast audience. Hey ho sure it will add a few more to your audience. Ill apologies now if it is all tongue cheek.
We shouldn’t give an opinion on the challenge because he got a bad injury? I’m not sure that’s right. I’m even more sure that a post on here about it will have nothing to do with drawing an audience to a podcast - I’ve been posting rubbish opinions on here since before podcasts existed :greengrin

David Turnbull went for the ball against the St Johnstone keeper, was committed and focused on the ball - his foot was high and it was dangerous so he rightly got a red card. If he’d broke his leg when he did it, it wouldn’t change that and it would still be ok to think the red card was correct.

He’s not going to miss any more football because of a red card, any ban would be served while he’s out, and it’s not been confirmed anywhere that I’ve seen that his career is over, that’s just speculation on here.

Keepers shouldn’t get a free pass to challenge for the ball any way they want, they have a responsibility to other players as well, Gordon’s gone in both feet of the ground and out of control, he’s not tried to injure Fletcher and he’s gone for the ball, but neither of those things are relevant in deciding if it’s a red card or not.

He hasn’t died, he’s taken a bad injury, we are still allowed to have an opinion on the incident. Otherwise, who’s setting the benchmark for when it’s allowed, and they better tell Sportscene etc who were happy to discuss it.

[Libby Hibby]

Gordon has no right coming out to challenge Fletcher the way he did. Anywhere else on the pitch, it’s a red. And the original award for the penalty should have stood.

Get well soon Craig. Horrible injury to sustain.

[B.H.F.C]

It’s a red card all day long.

Porteous got the ball and a red card at Ibrox, his tackle was nowhere near as dangerous as Gordon’s. When Porteous got his red card against Rangers at Easter Rd, folk defended him saying he got the ball first and were (rightly) corrected that it didn’t matter.

Gordon should be getting a retrospective red for the challenge.

Don’t agree with any retrospective action or anything like that given the circumstances. But don’t think there is any way it’s not a penalty. If you go and challenge like he did, anywhere on the pitch, it’s a red card. It’s just that thing where goalies are allowed to do what they want. Fletcher doesn’t make a challenge at any point, he’s just running in a straight line and Gordon was off the ground, at speed, totally out of control.

[Not In The Know]

Bit disappointed (although not really surprised) at Neilsons post match comments.

Moaning about the length of time it took to review it and saying it was "obvious " that Gordon got their first (i.e. hinting it is maybe Fletchers fault).

He has always been a classless erse and with that haircut now looks like a classless thug erse.

Best wishes to Gordon, smashing player for Hearts and Scotland.


Sums the fanny up that he can still moan about the ref, even after getting an injury time penalty that was never a foul.

It’s deflection tactics 101 and he knows the jumbo fans are two defeats away from contacting air traffic control.

[superfurryhibby]

It’s like some folk believe the rules around reckless endangerment are somehow different for goalies. Gordon’s challenge was pretty brutal. It was a red and a pen. Taking out an opponent with at speed with a knee smash is pretty vicious, shame for him that he was the one who ended up injured, but let’s not pretend that that kind of challenge is ok.

That said, I wish the plooky pussed one a speedy recovery.

[DIXIHIBS]

Terrible injury and wish him all the best and a full recovery. He can look back proudly on a fantastic career.

I do notice Hearts fans and now players (Humpries) are turning this into a blame/anger thing given they have picked up on a small number of idiots who have taken pleasure in CG injury. It’s always someone else’s fault with Hearts, I am fully expecting a long winded statement from gorgie towers having a dig at us and Neilson using it as motivation for 2nd Jan.

A few trashy papers have picked up on this and have articles about various hibs "fans" who have posted some very poor comments about Gordon. Didnt see this happening when it was Boyler getting the abuse. Hearts including players have made this all about Hibs as usual. The moral high ground over gorgie way gets higher by the day.

[matty_f]

A few trashy papers have picked up on this and have articles about various hibs "fans" who have posted some very poor comments about Gordon. Didnt see this happening when it was Boyler getting the abuse. Hearts including players have made this all about Hibs as usual. The moral high ground over gorgie way gets higher by the day.

Outraged at everything, embarrassed at nothing. :agree:

[matty_f]

Don’t agree with any retrospective action or anything like that given the circumstances. But don’t think there is any way it’s not a penalty. If you go and challenge like he did, anywhere on the pitch, it’s a red card. It’s just that thing where goalies are allowed to do what they want. Fletcher doesn’t make a challenge at any point, he’s just running in a straight line and Gordon was off the ground, at speed, totally out of control.

I understand the point about the circumstances, but what if Marshall has done it but instead of a leg break he gets a dead leg, and needs to be subbed - do we say that he shouldn’t get a red card for it as well? The rules shouldn’t change because of bad luck with the injury. It would really be the easiest retrospective red to give anyway because in practical terms, he’s not going to miss any games through suspension so it allows the SFA/SPFL (I’m not sure which does the suspensions) to apply the laws consistently so if Marshall or Hart or Angry McGregor do it in the next round of fixtures, the same rules apply and nobody can point to that incident and say he was treated differently

[scm70nyd1973]

While I am always happy to give any jambo stick while they are on the pitch (that’s what fitba rivalry is all about and I would expect nothing different from hertz fans) I take zero pleasure in hearing about the seriousness of CG’s injury.
In all honesty when I heard folk at the game saying he had been taken off injured I initially and selfishly thought ‘that could be a bonus if he misses the game on the 2nd. Be good if he’s still out for the cup game too’.
But that is a reflection as to how highly I rate the guy and how important a player he is for them.
After leaving the game the news started to filter through as to how serious and grim the injury was, I even started to feel a bit guilty in hoping he’d be out for a month.

I reckon if he had stayed injury free he may have managed to play for another couple of seasons at most.
The older you get the longer things take to heal (and the bloody sorer everything is too) and looking at the horrific photo, there could also be complications, ligament damage etc. With that in mind I think its highly unlikely that he will ever play again at all, never mind at this level.
Even if his op goes really well, would he be prepared to put himself through what could easily be 6-12 months rehab in the hope that he could manage another 6-12 months of playing once he’s recovered? I’m not sure I would.

The guy has been an outstanding keeper for 2 decades and he absolutely does not deserve to have his career ended like this. There is a fair part on me that hopes that he is able to to get fit enough even to take the field one last time to get a proper send off from their support.

As for some making dodgy comments etc I don’t really pay any heed to what is ‘daft laddiness’. Usually just younger fans trying to be offensive, edgy and attention seeking (we’ve probably all been guilty of similar at some point in our lives). Best ignored.

At the very least I hope that he recovers enough that he has no major issues with his mobility in his day-to-day life.

All the best for a full recovery Craig and thanks for the memories of the many excellent Scotland performances (but not so much the derby ones 😉)

Well said and well done to you for posting this ☹️

[B.H.F.C]

I understand the point about the circumstances, but what if Marshall has done it but instead of a leg break he gets a dead leg, and needs to be subbed - do we say that he shouldn’t get a red card for it as well? The rules shouldn’t change because of bad luck with the injury. It would really be the easiest retrospective red to give anyway because in practical terms, he’s not going to miss any games through suspension so it allows the SFA/SPFL (I’m not sure which does the suspensions) to apply the laws consistently so if Marshall or Hart or Angry McGregor do it in the next round of fixtures, the same rules apply and nobody can point to that incident and say he was treated differently

Apart from anything else, they’re not going to look at it retrospectively when they’ve already done it via VAR during the game anyway.

[matty_f]

Apart from anything else, they’re not going to look at it retrospectively when they’ve already done it via VAR during the game anyway.

There’s already precedent for doing that, Dundee United has a red card reviewed that had been given after VAR review, albeit after an appeal but the Compliance Officer should still be reviewing incidents like this irrespective of VAR, unless we are accepting that VAR is infallible, which we’ve already seen isn’t the case?

[weecounty hibby]

What's the point in a retrospective red card. He'd be suspended for the next game. I'm no doctor but I'm almost certain he's not playing the next game anyway!! I do think that the ref got it wrong, I do think the pen should have stood

[B.H.F.C]

There’s already precedent for doing that, Dundee United has a red card reviewed that had been given after VAR review, albeit after an appeal but the Compliance Officer should still be reviewing incidents like this irrespective of VAR, unless we are accepting that VAR is infallible, which we’ve already seen isn’t the case?

I know that but can you imagine the criticism they’d open themselves up to, given the circumstances. Never going to happen. I also think there is the issue of it being subjective. Definite penalty for me but they’d probably argue reckless as opposed to excessive force given the speed Fletcher is going at as well.

[matty_f]

What's the point in a retrospective red card. He'd be suspended for the next game. I'm no doctor but I'm almost certain he's not playing the next game anyway!! I do think that the ref got it wrong, I do think the pen should have stood

It’s just about consistently applying the rules (if you go on the basis that it’s a red card offence, there’s every chance it could be reviewed and the view taken - as BHFC has rightly suggested - that it’s not worthy of a red).

The laws of the game don’t change if the offender is injured in the offence so you need to treat it the same as if he’d not hurt himself, or even if it had been Fletcher that he’d injured - which he very easily could have done.

[Eyrie]

What's the point in a retrospective red card. He'd be suspended for the next game. I'm no doctor but I'm almost certain he's not playing the next game anyway!! I do think that the ref got it wrong, I do think the pen should have stood

It would be to ensure consistency in decision making.

Or the next time a keeper gets red for a wild challenge like that, they would be able to cite Gordon as a reason for the card being overturned.

[Onion]

Not noce to see any player get that badly injured by IMO it was self inflicted. Gordon was going to take everything out, ball & player. There was not a chance that Fletcher would have been allowed to get passed, even if he did get the ball. It was a wholly reckless challenge by Gordon and a lottery as to who would come off worse. Happen to be him.

[McGruber]

Wouldn't wish serious injury on anyone, hope Gordon makes a full recovery and sure he will. His playing days at top level might be behind him though.

Red card and penalty all day long.

Goalies aren't exempt. You can't go into a tackle head on with both feet a foot of the ground. 2 footed knee high challenge at speed - people just see it different because goalies wear gloves. Fletcher was lucky to come out of it unscathed, Gordon unlucky - though it was dangerous play of his own making.

[Keith_M]

The guy's a fantastic goalie and will be a big loss to Hearts,


...but in spite of the that, I wish him a (fairly) speedy recovery.

[hibstag]

Not noce to see any player get that badly injured by IMO it was self inflicted. Gordon was going to take everything out, ball & player. There was not a chance that Fletcher would have been allowed to get passed, even if he did get the ball. It was a wholly reckless challenge by Gordon and a lottery as to who would come off worse. Happen to be him.

This is how I see it over the years Gordon has previous for some pretty heavy ball and man clear out challenges as the last man and has avoided punishment for them. His timing and body position were off on Saturday and unfortunately he came off worse in the challenge that he clearly intended to clatter Fletcher with in a follow through.

[Billy Whizz]

DR saying he’ll be out for a year, that’s a long time at his age

[matty_f]

DR saying he’ll be out for a year, that’s a long time at his age

That’s a sore one for him, if I were him I’d be tempted to call it a day.

[Billy Whizz]

That’s a sore one for him, if I were him I’d be tempted to call it a day.

Broken legs can heal, but if he’s done any damage to his knees, where he’s had major problems, that could be the clincher
Always sad if players have to retire, when it’s out of their own hands

[Sioux]

That’s a sore one for him, if I were him I’d be tempted to call it a day.

He's a professional player with a contract. Why on earth would he call it a day and lose a year's worth of wages?

[Bostonhibby]

It’s just about consistently applying the rules (if you go on the basis that it’s a red card offence, there’s every chance it could be reviewed and the view taken - as BHFC has rightly suggested - that it’s not worthy of a red).

The laws of the game don’t change if the offender is injured in the offence so you need to treat it the same as if he’d not hurt himself, or even if it had been Fletcher that he’d injured - which he very easily could have done.Consistently - unfortunately that's where the wheels come of when we are discussing the comedy club with a few Sevco supporters thrown into the mix that masquerades as referees in Scotland.

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[Smartie]

He's a professional player with a contract. Why on earth would he call it a day and lose a year's worth of wages?

Will there not be an insurance aspect to retiring due to injury that sees with Gordon, Hearts or both better off via retirement? Genuine question, I don’t know insurance, injury and footballers works but I’ve sometimes been surprised when an injured player calls it a day when it appears to be premature?

[matty_f]

He's a professional player with a contract. Why on earth would he call it a day and lose a year's worth of wages?

After his contract, sorry - thought that went without saying.

[matty_f]

Consistently - unfortunately that's where the wheels come of when we are discussing the comedy club with a few Sevco supporters thrown into the mix that masquerades as referees in Scotland.

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The lack of consistency is my single biggest gripe with refereeing in Scotland.

[B.H.F.C]

The lack of consistency is my single biggest gripe with refereeing in Scotland.

They are consistently pish I suppose!

[matty_f]

They are consistently pish I suppose!

This is true.

[Bostonhibby]

The lack of consistency is my single biggest gripe with refereeing in Scotland.You wouldn't have to worry if you were a sevconian or Hearts fan.

Admittedly you'd have other issues[emoji16]

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[Bostonhibby]

They are consistently pish I suppose![emoji23][emoji23]

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[matty_f]

You wouldn't have to worry if you were a sevconian or Hearts fan.

Admittedly you'd have other issues[emoji16]

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:faf:

[RyeSloan]

I've looked at this a few times and came to the conclusion that both players are firmly focused on winning the ball at speed , no malice or badness in this from either player and imo just really bad luck. Wish both players well .
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12774225/dundee-united-2-2-hearts-scottish-premiership-highlights

No chance.

Check out the freeze frame below.

Fletcher going for the ball normally…Gordon literally flying in knees together, completely out of control and, as he found out to his cost, extremely dangerously.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221226/c5e03fa0be474abc9e45d25f53e64fb0.jpg

[DIXIHIBS]

No chance.

Check out the freeze frame below.

Fletcher going for the ball normally…Gordon literally flying in knees together, completely out of control and, as he found out to his cost, extremely dangerously.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221226/c5e03fa0be474abc9e45d25f53e64fb0.jpg

Just had a look at incident properly on that clip and you are correct. Gordon both feet off ground knees first straight into Fletcher. Didnt deserve the injury he got but looked entirely of his own making.

[Carheenlea]

No chance.

Check out the freeze frame below.

Fletcher going for the ball normally…Gordon literally flying in knees together, completely out of control and, as he found out to his cost, extremely dangerously.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221226/c5e03fa0be474abc9e45d25f53e64fb0.jpg

There is no doubt in my mind that the still photo that captured leg break in probably the most sickening angle possible has had an affect on how people are judging the whole incident. Has we simply saw the TV pictures of what was a robust coming together, it would have been examined in a much more pragmatic manner.

[Northernhibee]

A few Jambos I've seen seem to now have it in their head that Fletcher's set out to nobble the keeper and that he should get a hostile reception next time he's at Tynecastle.

Disappointed to read that, it was anything but and he was perfectly entitled to go for the ball. He's unlikely to be excited about the whole situation either.

[matty_f]

A few Jambos I've seen seem to now have it in their head that Fletcher's set out to nobble the keeper and that he should get a hostile reception next time he's at Tynecastle.

Disappointed to read that, it was anything but and he was perfectly entitled to go for the ball. He's unlikely to be excited about the whole situation either.
He was lucky not to be badly injured.

[brog]

No chance.

Check out the freeze frame below.

Fletcher going for the ball normally…Gordon literally flying in knees together, completely out of control and, as he found out to his cost, extremely dangerously.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221226/c5e03fa0be474abc9e45d25f53e64fb0.jpg

Wow! That's almost Schumakerish!! As others have said CG does have previous though i do have a suspicion some of that is down to his lack of ability with his feet. Wish him well regardless.

[loanheadhibby]

It’s a red card all day long.

Porteous got the ball and a red card at Ibrox, his tackle was nowhere near as dangerous as Gordon’s. When Porteous got his red card against Rangers at Easter Rd, folk defended him saying he got the ball first and were (rightly) corrected that it didn’t matter.

Gordon should be getting a retrospective red for the challenge.

The way I saw it both players arrived at the same time.
Pure accident and unfortunate.
No penalty was the correct decision in my opinion.

[Danderhall Hibs]

The way I saw it both players arrived at the same time.
Pure accident and unfortunate.
No penalty was the correct decision in my opinion.

If he was a defender it would be a penalty and red card. Shocker of a tackle which he’s done and been allowed to do in the past. Tough lesson for him.

[Donegal Hibby]

No chance.

Check out the freeze frame below.

Fletcher going for the ball normally…Gordon literally flying in knees together, completely out of control and, as he found out to his cost, extremely dangerously.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221226/c5e03fa0be474abc9e45d25f53e64fb0.jpg
To me Gordon's off the ground to make himself as big as possible as the balls in the air, Fletcher looks to be about to shoot when ball comes down and if he's not made contact he's having a swipe at fresh air which could also be seen as a foul as well both players are 100% commited, I actually thought Gordon got to the ball first though I can see from this picture why a lot of you thought it was a penalty, redcard , honestly I'm not sure about it still. It's been announced Gordan has a double leg break

[Kato]

The way I saw it both players arrived at the same time.
Pure accident and unfortunate.
No penalty was the correct decision in my opinion.Gordon "arrives" by jumping at his opponent.


You know that's against the laws of the game, right?

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[Kato]

To me Gordon's off the ground to make himself as big as possible as the balls in the air, Fletcher looks to be about to shoot when ball comes down and if he's not made contact he's having a swipe at fresh air which could also be seen as a foul as well both players are 100% commited, I actually thought Gordon got to the ball first though I can see from this picture why a lot of you thought it was a penalty, redcard , honestly I'm not sure about it still. It's been announced Gordan has a double leg breakIf he's trying to make himself big why are his knees tucked up?

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[wookie70]

The way I saw it both players arrived at the same time.
Pure accident and unfortunate.
No penalty was the correct decision in my opinion.
When they arrive is fairly irrelevant considering the force and recklessness Gordon went in. Imagine that as an outfield player. Straight red every day of the week regardless of getting the ball first.

[matty_f]

When they arrive is fairly irrelevant considering the force and recklessness Gordon went in. Imagine that as an outfield player. Straight red every day of the week regardless of getting the ball first.

:agree:

[Kato]

When they arrive is fairly irrelevant considering the force and recklessness Gordon went in. Imagine that as an outfield player. Straight red every day of the week regardless of getting the ball first.Two players clattering into each always arrive at the same time. If one is late or early then there is no clatter. Daft aspect to bring up.

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[BoomtownHibees]

The way I saw it both players arrived at the same time.
Pure accident and unfortunate.
No penalty was the correct decision in my opinion.

Why does this no come as a surprise

[Smartie]

Just watched it now.

If that’s not a red card and a penalty, especially with the benefit of having VAR to look at it then I don’t know why we bother any more as it appears that football is either a lottery or some sort of WWF equivalent.

[blackpoolhibs]

Just watched it now.

If that’s not a red card and a penalty, especially with the benefit of having VAR to look at it then I don’t know why we bother any more as it appears that football is either a lottery or some sort of WWF equivalent.
:agree:

VAR is Scotland is a joke, it's implemented by incompetent fools or cheats. Watching the game and team i love is waning at an alarming rate for me, and VAR is one of the main reasons for that.

Football in Scotland has never been a level playing field since i started watching the game, VAR has made it even worse.

[Hibbyradge]

Why does everyone get all gooey eyed and sentimental over a leg break but when it's an ACL tear, it's just meh?

[Aldo]

Whilst this was a shocking incident and hope he makes a full recovery, the self righteous entitled pish being spouted by their players and fans about Hibs fans giving him stick and being classless is quite contradictory. Do they actually think that all supporters of your nearest rivals are going to be all sympathetic?

Similar comments about Boyle were made by their supporters and they seem to forget thus. It’s like Robbie and co want there to be issues by saying that sort of thing.

FWIW I thought it was a clear penalty and red for Gordon!

[JamesHFC]

Whilst this was a shocking incident and hope he makes a full recovery, the self righteous entitled pish being spouted by their players and fans about Hibs fans giving him stick and being classless is quite contradictory. Do they actually think that all supporters of your nearest rivals are going to be all sympathetic?

Similar comments about Boyle were made by their supporters and they seem to forget thus. It’s like Robbie and co want there to be issues by saying that sort of thing.

FWIW I thought it was a clear penalty and red for Gordon!

From a footballing perspective it's great for rival teams and awful for them. If anything, a sign of relief that they will be playing without him is a compliment to him. He's had a great career and made a fortune, horrible way to probably end his career but it happens.

**** Hearts.

[Key West]

:agree:

VAR is Scotland is a joke, it's implemented by incompetent fools or cheats. Watching the game and team i love is waning at an alarming rate for me, and VAR is one of the main reasons for that.

Football in Scotland has never been a level playing field since i started watching the game, VAR has made it even worse.

Same for me.

[Bostonhibby]

:agree:

VAR is Scotland is a joke, it's implemented by incompetent fools or cheats. Watching the game and team i love is waning at an alarming rate for me, and VAR is one of the main reasons for that.

Football in Scotland has never been a level playing field since i started watching the game, VAR has made it even worse.Definitely, had a chance to make some inroads and maybe improve standards but in the wrong hands, at least in the short term it's going to drag the scottish game down further to the benefit of a couple of teams.

I do think that the EPL are starting to get it right more often than not now but that's no consolation.

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[Sir David Gray]

Just watched it now.

If that’s not a red card and a penalty, especially with the benefit of having VAR to look at it then I don’t know why we bother any more as it appears that football is either a lottery or some sort of WWF equivalent.

If Gordon doesn't get a double leg break then it would have been a penalty and red card. The referee gave Hearts the sympathy vote and knew he would have been criticised for giving Dundee Utd a penalty and putting Hearts down to 10 men after such a horrendous injury.

[DIXIHIBS]

Whilst this was a shocking incident and hope he makes a full recovery, the self righteous entitled pish being spouted by their players and fans about Hibs fans giving him stick and being classless is quite contradictory. Do they actually think that all supporters of your nearest rivals are going to be all sympathetic?

Similar comments about Boyle were made by their supporters and they seem to forget thus. It’s like Robbie and co want there to be issues by saying that sort of thing.

FWIW I thought it was a clear penalty and red for Gordon!

Maybe a clever move by hertz and all associated with them to make it all about hibs, seige mentality etc. Some of the stuff online is ridiculous from "that hibs #%&@ fletcher" to even posting pictures of dundee hibernian badge ffs. Must be 100 years since they changed to utd. Neilson clearly playing to lowest denominator.

[Onion]

When they arrive is fairly irrelevant considering the force and recklessness Gordon went in. Imagine that as an outfield player. Straight red every day of the week regardless of getting the ball first.

Gordon getting Dean Shiels sent off stopping him recovering the ball after Shiels beat him from the spot is all you need to know about Gordon's previous. That time, Gordon spent 4 weeks in the ERI after 5 ft 8 in, 9 stone Shiels ran into him.

[PaulSmith]

As a decent person you don’t really want to see anyone get physically hurt.

But in the world of sport, where Craig Gordon is worth 15 points a season to our main rivals, I won’t lie and say that as it benefits Hibs then I’m not going to lose any sleep over his injury.

[crash]

As a decent person you don’t really want to see anyone get physically hurt.

But in the world of sport, where Craig Gordon is worth 15 points a season to our main rivals, I won’t lie and say that as it benefits Hibs then I’m not going to lose any sleep over his injury.

This. Unlucky

[LongJohnBanger]

If he's trying to make himself big why are his knees tucked up?

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Great question.

I'm torn between Damien Rice' 'Cannonball' and Miley Cyrus' 'Wrecking Ball' when I see Gordon in the moments before he connects with Fletcher.

[loanheadhibby]

Why does this no come as a surprise

What an insightful opinion on the incident. Feel free to share your viewpoint.

[ekhibee]

Gordon getting Dean Shiels sent off stopping him recovering the ball after Shiels beat him from the spot is all you need to know about Gordon's previous. That time, Gordon spent 4 weeks in the ERI after 5 ft 8 in, 9 stone Shiels ran into him.
Not to mention his comments on Sportscene years ago when he totally agreed with the decision not to give the Lee Griffiths goal from the free kick. I don't like him and never have, regardless of how good a keeper he is. It's a bad injury though, regardless who's at fault.

[h1bs4life]

Watched it several times , have never seen a goalkeeper make themselves big by tucking in there knees looking to launch into someone .
Looks to me like Fletcher kept going as he thought he could nick it before Gordon got there , Gordon seen it as an opportunity to take Fletcher out and unfortunately for him ended with a double broken leg .
As others have said it should have been a penalty and a red card.
Referee bottled it , if he had stuck with his decision to give the penalty and the red card it would have reduced them to 10 men and forced them to take a man off to allow sub goalie on but he was scared of the reaction from players and the media.
Players get injured all the time which may benefit other teams but it is part and parcel of football I hope he recovers like I would anyone seriously injured in any sport at any level.
I am sure he will be ok financially , know a few people from my amateur days who had similar type injuries who had financial hardship or even lost there jobs.

[Donegal Hibby]

Great question.

I'm torn between Damien Rice' 'Cannonball' and Miley Cyrus' 'Wrecking Ball' when I see Gordon in the moments before he connects with Fletcher.


If he's trying to make himself big why are his knees tucked up?

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He's jumped up to try and block the ball which is high enough up( about chest level) and your right Kato his knees are tucked up though look at his arms they aren't out wide which I'd expect a keeper to do when trying to make himself big , instead he's got them tucked in as well why would a keeper do this with his knees and arms instead of putting his legs and arms out in order to make himself bigger ? Imo he's realised in that split second he's going to collide with Fletcher has tried to protect himself by what LJB has said putting himself into a ball position .

[Onion]

Maybe a clever move by hertz and all associated with them to make it all about hibs, seige mentality etc. Some of the stuff online is ridiculous from "that hibs #%&@ fletcher" to even posting pictures of dundee hibernian badge ffs. Must be 100 years since they changed to utd. Neilson clearly playing to lowest denominator.

Bottom line. No one died, no one's life was at risk, Gordon will be very well paid during his recuperation, his family will not be destitute and no young player's career has been destroyed. There have been many awful events in football, the "Craig Gordon broken leg" will not make the top 100,000.

[Kato]

Bottom line. No one died, no one's life was at risk, Gordon will be very well paid during his recuperation, his family will not be destitute and no young player's career has been destroyed. There have been many awful events in football, the "Craig Gordon broken leg" will not make the top 100,000.He'll also get instant employment as a Hearts retiree in their premises at BBC Sportsound.

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[DC_Hibs]

Watched it several times , have never seen a goalkeeper make themselves big by tucking in there knees looking to launch into someone .
Looks to me like Fletcher kept going as he thought he could nick it before Gordon got there , Gordon seen it as an opportunity to take Fletcher out and unfortunately for him ended with a double broken leg .
As others have said it should have been a penalty and a red card.
Referee bottled it , if he had stuck with his decision to give the penalty and the red card it would have reduced them to 10 men and forced them to take a man off to allow sub goalie on but he was scared of the reaction from players and the media.
Players get injured all the time which may benefit other teams but it is part and parcel of football I hope he recovers like I would anyone seriously injured in any sport at any level.
I am sure he will be ok financially , know a few people from my amateur days who had similar type injuries who had financial hardship or even lost there jobs.

Spot on, that was dangerous play from him and thankfully Fletcher was unharmed.

Due to the length of time Gordon is now out for, as a gesture of goodwill they should forget the retrospective red card in this instance.

Not sure how long the period of mourning goes on for but I’ll be opening my florist shop in Slateford a day earlier than planned as had a shedload of enquiries with HoMFC opening part of the “plaza” for (floral) tributes.

Seasons greetings everyone x

[Carheenlea]

Spot on, that was dangerous play from him and thankfully Fletcher was unharmed.

Due to the length of time Gordon is now out for, as a gesture of goodwill they should forget the retrospective red card in this instance.

Not sure how long the period of mourning goes on for but I’ll be opening my florist shop in Slateford a day earlier than planned as had a shedload of enquiries with HoMFC opening part of the “plaza” for (floral) tributes.

Seasons greetings everyone x

Minutes applause before the derby in tribute to Craig?

[BoomtownHibees]

What an insightful opinion on the incident. Feel free to share your viewpoint.

Penalty & Red card. Simple

[JimBHibees]

He'll also get instant employment as a Hearts retiree in their premises at BBC Sportsound.

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Ain't that the truth

[cabbageandribs1875]

He'll also get instant employment as a Hearts retiree in their premises at BBC Sportsound.

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a certainty :agree: they will name a new football show titled 'the two craigs'

[loanheadhibby]

Why does this no come as a surprise

Not sure what you mean, just commenting as I saw it.
Basically on here as it's Gordon it's red and if it was David Marshall it would have been an unfortunate accident.

[BoomtownHibees]

Not sure what you mean, just commenting as I saw it.
Basically on here as it's Gordon it's red and if it was David Marshall it would have been an unfortunate accident.

And you would have said the opposite. You come across as very negative towards Hibs on every thread you post on but seem very pro-Hearts and stick up for them whenever you can

Just an observation

[Hibiza]

All the best to Craig Gordon and his family.

[loanheadhibby]

And you would have said the opposite. You come across as very negative towards Hibs on every thread you post on but seem very pro-Hearts and stick up for them whenever you can

Just an observation

Fair comment but I have seen better days at ER and there have been very few positives in recent years.

[BSEJVT]

Fair comment but I have seen better days at ER and there have been very few positives in recent years.

You will never find a positive when all you look for are negatives.

I would honestly give it up if I were you, at least for a substantial period, to see if you can find some objectivity.

It must be soul destroying for you being so relentlessly negative.

Take care of yourself

[loanheadhibby]

You will never find a positive when all you look for are negatives.

I would honestly give it up if I were you, at least for a substantial period, to see if you can find some objectivity.

It must be soul destroying for you being so relentlessly negative.

Take care of yourself

Thanks for the advice but I’ll keep going if all the same with you.

To be honest, 2 wins out of 9 is more soul destroying, I’m sure you would agree?

[JimBHibees]

You will never find a positive when all you look for are negatives.

I would honestly give it up if I were you, at least for a substantial period, to see if you can find some objectivity.

It must be soul destroying for you being so relentlessly negative.

Take care of yourself

Pretty much

[MWHIBBIES]

Thanks for the advice but I’ll keep going if all the same with you.

To be honest, 2 wins out of 9 is more soul destroying, I’m sure you would agree?

Its not just that, though, like good runs are flukes to you. You have no intention of being positive, ever.

[Donegal Hibby]

Thanks for the advice but I’ll keep going if all the same with you.

To be honest, 2 wins out of 9 is more soul destroying, I’m sure you would agree?
2 wins out of 9 isn't great though I remember 16 without a win . Things could be worse . Feel we are still a work in progress under LJ though lots of positive stuff as well , only 2 points off 3rd place after what you mentioned, good result against Livingston and a very good performance, one of the best keepers in the league , Nisbet and Magennis back and playing well , youan's had his best game for us , some really good youth players at the club, January transfer window coming up so hopefully we will improve our squad etc etc . Merry Christmas and happy New year

[loanheadhibby]

Its not just that, though, like good runs are flukes to you. You have no intention of being positive, ever.

No not flukes.
To be honest I find it hard to be positive about the club in recent years.
We continually struggle to make the top 6 other than a couple of seasons ago and to be behind the likes off Livvi and Ross C after 33 league games is an absolute disgrace.
Our recent record v Hearts is abysmal and the truth is we hardly ever beat them.
Where are the positives?

[loanheadhibby]

Its not just that, though, like good runs are flukes to you. You have no intention of being positive, ever.

And to be fair, I’ve not taken great delight in the player being injured unlike some.

[BSEJVT]

Thanks for the advice but I’ll keep going if all the same with you.

To be honest, 2 wins out of 9 is more soul destroying, I’m sure you would agree?

Crack on mate

Just an observation/concern

Maybe try asking yourself though what was the last thing that made you happy?

If you can answer that in the affirmative, then the question should be when did Hibs last make you happy?

Hibs piss me off massively at times, but if it was as relentless as it appears for you I wouldn’t put myself through it.

There is a big world out there with millions of things to do in it.

Surely one or two of them would bring you some joy?

[loanheadhibby]

Crack on mate

Just an observation/concern

Maybe try asking yourself though what was the last thing that made you happy?

If you can answer that in the affirmative, then the question should be when did Hibs last make you happy?

Hibs piss me off massively at times, but if it was as relentless as it appears for you I wouldn’t put myself through it.

There is a big world out there with millions of things to do in it.

Surely one or two of them would bring you some joy?

I suppose Saturday's win made me happy.
Too many guys on here seem happy that we plod on with a win every so often.
We're talking about the Hibs here.
I love my club and it kills me that we have been so ordinary for so long.
What I would give for two wins v the Hearts.
Maybe I care more than most.