Dundee Utd v Hibernian

[Sir David Gray]

Pish, huge opportunity missed.

[GRA]

Another day that would have been 3 points no problem. Mixture of dodgy refereeing and poor finishing cost us.

[bringbackbenny]

Really poor result but the performance was okay. We need to be taking our chances. That and some shocking decisions from the officials has cost us here.

Yup put a lot into tonight with no breaks at all. A bit more clinical in the box and we'd have skooshed that.

[JohnM1875]

Honestly can't believe we haven't scored at least one there. ****ing pummeled them second half. Absolutely no idea why Hendo comes on when we have Magennis on the bench.

Sickener that result.

[Bishop Hibee]

Better Hibs teams have failed to win 5 games in a row. Goalscoring still a problem but at least Johnson’s team plays more attacking football than Maloney’s ever did.

When’s Nisbet fit?

[HIBS NUTS]

Thought we played well tonight. Mckirdy needs to start squaring the ball, Henderson not a great night for him

hibs deserved something from the game.
Great passion, very unlucky.

[Heisenberg]

Can’t quite believe we’ve lost that game. They score their only shot on target and we collectively **** the bed when getting near their goal. Obviously we haven’t been helped by an utterly inept refereeing performance. He got every big call wrong in the first half.

That has to be the last chance Henderson gets for a while, so far off being good enough for this level.

[Hibernian Verse]

He is allowed the odd poor game I reckon

Be intersting to see how Johnson reacts to this post match

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Hope he just refuses to discuss the ref or he will be looking at a ban if he says how it is.

[The Captain....]

Poor result, farcical officiating, and strange subs where we looked like we were giving the stiffs a run out in Henderson and Tavares.

Performance for me wasn't too bad, we just lack composure for the final pass or finish and it's clearly evident we don't have a reliable goal scorer despite signing quantity (or more accurately potential) over quality in the forward positions.

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[Stevie Reid]

Frustrating as ****. Playing against 13 men tonight when you take the referee and linesman into account.

Disappointing to lose but the performance, and number of chances created, were good. Need our forwards to start scoring as we could have a really special season if they do.

[cameronw-hfc]

Not the worst way to lose, think UTD will be a tough team to beat as the season goes on for most clubs. Was impressed with Mckirdy and a few of his flicks and touches, bit too eager for goals but can't moan at a striker that shoots too much I guess.

Youan needs a goal badly, big Myk unlucky not to have a few already, Boyle not at the races tonight. These nights happen, not the end of the world

[LunasBoots]

The good results have been great for a while but having no goal scoring strikers is always going to come back and bite us.

[Not In The Know]

Tell you what, might get overlooked but Boyle was really poor tonight too

World Cup cottonwool mode

[hibIBZ]

Frustrating doesn't come close. Performance was good but we can't keep missing chances.

Officials were nothing short of a disgrace. Will clubs start getting fines for the multi ball system being a total farce? All teams including us just abandon it in the 2nd half if winning.

Time wasting is becoming a joke in football.

[SteveHFC]

***** officials and ***** finishing cost us tonight.

[HH81]

Can’t quite believe we’ve lost that game. They score their only shot on target and we collectively **** the bed when getting near their goal. Obviously we haven’t been helped by an utterly inept refereeing performance. He got every big call wrong in the first half.

That has to be the last chance Henderson gets for a while, so far off being good enough for this level.

Agreed. Such an frustrating evening in the end.

[Hibernian Verse]

The good results have been great for a while but having no goal scoring strikers is always going to come back and bite us.

Our striker did score to be fair to him.

[DaveF]

A game we should have won but our aversion to sticking the ball in the net has cost us.

As well as one slack bit of defending and a howling decision by the officials.

[cameronw-hfc]

The good results have been great for a while but having no goal scoring strikers is always going to come back and bite us.

Our striker tonight literally scored a perfectly fine goal😂

[SlickShoes]

Pretty poor overall, but clearly robbed by one of the worst decisions I have ever seen.

We should have still got something out of the game, but we were pretty sluggish all over the park.

[HendoDelivered]

***** result, but we were miles the better side. I’d be more concerned if we were creating nothing. We really need the strikers to start scoring.

This

[Stevie Reid]

Think we created more tonight than we did in Maloney’s entire tenure.

[Swedish hibee]

Extremely frustrating.

[SaulGoodman]

World Cup cottonwool mode

Living up to your username there.

[Unseen work]

Looks like another performance with chances created but none taking going on here?

Loads of chances whether it be shots or in positions that should have ended in a better chance/goal.

I missed the first 25 minutes or so but;

Kukharevych goal
Kukharevych disposessing centre half and then left footed shot at at keeper
Kukharevych 1v1
McKirdy shooting from a ridiculous angle instead of squaring it to Henderson
Boyle half volley over bar
Kukharevych overhead kick
McKirdy good position on the right and shoots from impossible angle
Overload on left, Henderson has a simple pass to Tarves and the puts it out of play.

I think we just lacked composure, even with 20 minutes or so left we were aimlessly chucking the ball in the box.

[erin-go-bragh87]

Was anyone else watching a stream with no commentary? Did anyone hear what I heard at about 87 minutes when Tavares went over to hurry them up at the throw in?

[cabbageandribs1875]

possession

36%/64%

shots

10/18

on target

1/7

corners

5/10

[easty]

If you waste the chances we have in front of goal you aren’t going to win matches. We’re nowhere near clinical enough

Bringing on players of Henderson’s quality also isn’t going to win you games.

Just a strange substitution. Henderson has the technical ability to play football, but he’s well out of form, and he’s still really inexperienced. Bring him on when we’re winning and there’s less pressure on a player in his position to get us back into it.

Nobody is really surprised that he had a poor game…it says a lot.

[JJP]

Obviously the refereeing played its part but we conceded at around 10 minutes and had and had an absolute age to get back into the game. Disappointing result and didn’t get what we deserve. We need to improve infront of goal.

[Mcbizz1998]

So we have finally lost and now you have to think we can make changes. Youan drops out for me and I would be finding a way to get Magennis in that team.

Henderson was never up to it, doubt we will see him for a while.

[ehf]

If you waste the chances we have in front of goal you aren’t going to win matches. We’re nowhere near clinical enough

Bringing on players of Henderson’s quality also isn’t going to win you games.

:agree: There's not much we can take from tonight given the dire officiating and Utd's antics but Henderson looked painfully short of the level required.

[easty]

Was anyone else watching a stream with no commentary? Did anyone hear what I heard at about 87 minutes when Tavares went over to hurry them up at the throw in?

Is it a secret?

[CMac1988]

The amount of nothing fouls in there box was embarrassing. Goal chalked off for **** all. Ref and his clown linesman need slapped down a league or two for a few weeks.

Other than that the strikers need to show more composure. Eye bleeding up front. Only one who deserves pass marks at the top in is Kukha. Started sluggish and laboured and paid for it. Midfield were poor until the 2nd half and the subs other than McKirdy offered nothing. Bad night all in all. We move on but can't see us getting anything against Celtic.

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

Plenty of endeavour but to have so many strikers on our books and none of them scoring is a concern.

Hoping Nisbet is back soon.

[Hibernian Verse]

Was anyone else watching a stream with no commentary? Did anyone hear what I heard at about 87 minutes when Tavares went over to hurry them up at the throw in?

Also thought I heard him being called a black *******. It’ll have been picked up if that is indeed what was said.

[CmoantheHibs]

Utd better team up until they scored. Then 15 minutes of eeksy peeksy. After that Hibs completely dominated and Utd wasted time. Officials were atrocious but beside that we need to be more clinical. We just waste too many chances and are wasteful in promising positions. 3 points dropped but it certainly wasn’t through lack of desire or effort.

[Leighonel]

Reminds me of the livi game. We went out fighting, can't complain too much at the effort.

LJ did promisewe would have a go at teams.

[Unseen work]

Not the worst way to lose, think UTD will be a tough team to beat as the season goes on for most clubs. Was impressed with Mckirdy and a few of his flicks and touches, bit too eager for goals but can't moan at a striker that shoots too much I guess.

Youan needs a goal badly, big Myk unlucky not to have a few already, Boyle not at the races tonight. These nights happen, not the end of the world

I think all of the forwards look desperate for a goal and it’s effecting all of their decision making.

Agree some of McKirdy’s touches and play looked good tonight, great touch in a counter attack to Newell, pinged wide to Cabraja who put in a nothing ball

[J-C]

Corrupt officials, poor composure and very poor finishing. Still a lot to be done with this team, I can see a good few going in January, Henderson and Jair are just not good enough and we still have consistency issues with certain players like Newell, Campbell, Kenneh etc, it'll take more than one window to get us sorted but we're heading the right way.

[LunasBoots]

Is it a secret?

It sounded as if he was called a 'black......' thought I heard wrong at the time but others have heard it aswell.

[weecounty hibby]

Having watched all of that I can't believe we have lost. Poor decisions from ref and our players cost us. Definitely should have scored goals tonight. Henderson was very poor and his dive at the end hade me screaming at him. I ****ing hate players diving in the box, even when it's one if ours. He could have had a shot at goal FFS!!

[easty]

It sounded as if he was called a 'black......' thought I heard wrong at the time but others have heard it aswell.

Shocking if true.

[mcohibs]

Was anyone else watching a stream with no commentary? Did anyone hear what I heard at about 87 minutes when Tavares went over to hurry them up at the throw in?

Yes, I think I did. Really hope I heard it wrong tbh

[JohnM1875]

Was anyone else watching a stream with no commentary? Did anyone hear what I heard at about 87 minutes when Tavares went over to hurry them up at the throw in?

Thought I heard that as well but wasn't sure. Horrific if it has been said.

[Stuart93]

It sounded as if he was called a 'black......' thought I heard wrong at the time but others have heard it aswell.

Yep I heard it as well clear as day.

[cameronw-hfc]

I think all of the forwards look desperate for a goal and it’s affecting all of their decision making.

Agree some of McKirdy’s touches and play looked good tonight, great touch in a counter attack to Newell, pinged wide to Cabraja who put in a nothing ball


Agree, I also think they all look capable of getting goals, it's just the first. It's not like Doidge up top ago just wasn't even getting into the positions to miss chances, we're just waiting for the first to go in for a few before they get going I feel.

[Scotty Leither]

I wish we’d sign a poacher, but modern football doesn’t let you carry someone who only has one job to do. I’m never confident when our forwards are one on one with the goalkeeper either. Frustrating night where even a point would have been a good result.

[hhibs]

Just a strange substitution. Henderson has the technical ability to play football, but he’s well out of form, and he’s still really inexperienced. Bring him on when we’re winning and there’s less pressure on a player in his position to get us back into it.

Nobody is really surprised that he had a poor game…it says a lot.


Yes ,and a poor choice to bring on.

[Unseen work]

Having watched all of that I can't believe we have lost. Poor decisions from ref and our players cost us. Definitely should have scored goals tonight. Henderson was very poor and his dive at the end hade me screaming at him. I ****ing hate players diving in the box, even when it's one if ours. He could have had a shot at goal FFS!!

Same as me, you’re in the box in the last minute just have a shot, pass or make something happen!

The best thing he could have done was dummy it for Tavares.

Feel bad for Tavares, got in some really good positions and the service to him was poor at best.

[Hibs90]

Thought I heard that as well but wasn't sure. Horrific if it has been said.

Heard it too

[Hibees1973]

Tonight exposed our weaknesses.

People go on about our massive squad but there is a lack in quality. Playing Henderson before others on the bench such as Magennis and Stevenson was a ridiculous decision by Johnson. Jair and McKirdy don't look 1st team material either so far. McKirdy may improve but I doubt it.

Henderson has had pelters already, but I am not in the least surprised. I just don't see what he brings. He has no physical strength, has no pace and has shown each time that I have seen him has no composure and cannot pass the ball.

Johnson has a real blind spot with Henderson. Against Kilmarnock, Johnson said he brought off Henderson because he was unwell. What's the excuse tonight. It surprising to me that we should have won the game when we were already one down and Henderson comes on. We may have played the second half with 10 men.

[A Hi-Bee]

Well that was a crap result, but we move on, they are a crap side and hope they get nothing from this season. We still lack some real quality but still better than watching some of the dross from past couple of managers.

[RoxburghHibs]

FFS why bring him on with 2 minutes to go?:rolleyes:

Campbell was injured

[Stuart93]

Is starting to be a bit of a concern how much chances we’re passing up and how little our attacking players are putting chances away.

It doesn’t matter so much when you’re winning but starts to tell if your not picking up points

[erin-go-bragh87]

Also thought I heard him being called a black *******. It’ll have been picked up if that is indeed what was said.

Yeah that's what I heard, I just wanted to see if it was just me before I wrote what I thought Id heard! It was horrible and Jair will definitely have heard it. Its mental that people still shout stuff like that.

Edit: I've just rewound the stream and screen grabbed it. I'm pretty sure that's exactly what's shouted.

[Kato]

Missing way too many chances. Change up front required. Tonight gives the manager a chance to switch things up after showing loyalty to the 11 and giving the strikers a chance to let loose. Not happening for them.

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[Stuart93]

Tonight exposed our weaknesses.

People go on about our massive squad but there is a lack in quality. Playing Henderson before others on the bench such as Magennis and Stevenson was a ridiculous decision by Johnson. Jair and McKirdy don't look 1st team material either so far. McKirdy may improve but I doubt it.

Henderson has had pelters already, but I am not in the least surprised. I just don't see what he brings. He has no physical strength, has no pace and has shown each time that I have seen him has no composure and cannot pass the ball.

Johnson has a real blind spot with Henderson. Against Kilmarnock, Johnson said he brought off Henderson because he was unwell. What's the excuse tonight. It surprising to me that we should have won the game when we were already one down and Henderson comes on. We may have played the second half with 10 men.

Subs surprised me tonight. Thought he made some poor choices bringing on the players he did

[Since452]

All of a sudden 4 straight wins will in all probability turn into 2 straight defeats.

[BoyledEgg]

Think we created more tonight than we did in Maloney’s entire tenure.

We scored 3 goals against them when Maloney was in charge.

[-Jonesy-]

Yep I heard it as well clear as day.
From the ballboy or from the stands?

[Donegal Hibby]

hibs deserved something from the game.
Great passion, very unlucky.
I thought the same we were very unlucky tonight shots 18/7 to us . 9/1 to them .over 60 % possession. Wish we were more clinical upfront though . Sore one to take but we are on the right track I feel and on other night we would have got something .Referee was absolutely awful between our goal ,Edwards elbow and the amount of time wasting was crazy .

[Trinity Hibee]

Yeah that's what I heard, I just wanted to see if it was just me before I wrote what I thought Id heard! It was horrible and Jair will definitely have heard it. Its mental that people still shout stuff like that.

Linesman must have heard it on that side too

[Unseen work]

Id be stunned if Magennis not coming on earlier wasn’t down to a Sport science decision and “managing his load”

[cameronw-hfc]

Heard it too. Pretty disgusting

[Ronniekirk]

Beaten by the team at the bottom of the league who managed one shot on target is hugely frustrating

[Steve20]

We aren’t getting anything on Saturday, so could have done with another three points tonight. No excuse for the attackers being that powderpuff up front. Porteous and Campbell have chipped in with goals that’s covered up the strikers lack of ability to finish chances and tonight it caught up with us.

Get a striker capable of actually taking chances.

[Since452]

possession

36%/64%

shots

10/18

on target

1/7

corners

5/10

We weren't pish tonight. There are ways to lose. Just wasn't our night.

[heretoday]

Scottish football is depressing. So are Hibs.

[A Hi-Bee]

We weren't pish tonight. There are ways to lose. Just wasn't our night.

The result stays the same no matter how much possession, shots missed etc, its goals that count and we have a bunch of forwards who cannot score goals, this could be a problem.

[eastmainsmsh]

Robbed by the linesman Shocking Big Ukrainian guy again quality

Mckirdy good when he came on

Fraustrating night but we go again on Sat

[The Spaceman]

Heard it too. Pretty disgusting

I heard that too. A clip should be sent to the SFA and Dundee Utd demanding action.

[hhibs]

So we have finally lost and now you have to think we can make changes. Youan drops out for me and I would be finding a way to get Magennis in that team.

Henderson was never up to it, doubt we will see him for a while.




Absolutely,Yuan is just not doing it for the team.

Henderson was a mistake,should have been Magennis on, that is down to the management

[A Hi-Bee]

Scottish football is depressing. So are Hibs.

Not all the time, just some of the time, well perhaps most of the time.
:greengrin

[HH81]

Id be stunned if Magennis not coming on earlier wasn’t down to a Sport science decision and “managing his load”

I think that too.

[JohnM1875]

Robbed by the linesman Shocking Big Ukrainian guy again quality

Mckirdy good when he came on

Fraustrating night but we go again on Sat

Myko has to be scoring the 1 on 1 though.

Definitely agree about McKirdy, easily the best he's looked so far and a few nice wee touches to keep the attack moving.

[Onion]

Is starting to be a bit of a concern how much chances we’re passing up and how little our attacking players are putting chances away.

It doesn’t matter so much when you’re winning but starts to tell if your not picking up points

Always more a concern when you're not creating chances. We're creating loads but just not converting - that will come. Definitely going in right direction. Jan will see another opportunity to replace failures with better quality.

[HoboHarry]

I heard that too. A clip should be sent to the SFA and Dundee Utd demanding action.

Other than united banning the fan there's not much can be done. Clubs voted for no liability IIRC.

[CB Hibs 68]

It’s a football cliche but better to make chances and miss them than not to create in the first place.For sure the lack of goals is a big problem.Our defence is actually pretty sound but if the boys up top don’t score then conceding one inevitably results in dropped points.Didn’t see the game myself but all I have read suggests we played well enough.We move on .

[McHibby]

It sounded as if he was called a 'black......' thought I heard wrong at the time but others have heard it aswell.

FFS, what is wrong with some people. We're in 2022 and black players are still having to deal with this nonsense. It's disgraceful.

[GRA]

Frustrating we lost to a team in last place but can't be too downhearted about the performance. Looking at the stats we'd win way, way more than we'd lose if we continuously dominated teams like that. That said the strikers profligacy in front of goal may start to cost us this season. Time to give McKirdy a start?

[#2 Double Tap]

I thought we were pretty ***** tonight.

Youan, Campbell, newell, cadden, Boyle all well below par.

Also Kenneh n Henderson

[Mcbizz1998]

It was a night for a bit of Doidge-ball imo. He would have bundled a chance in, he also had a good record against United.

[McGruber]

Id be stunned if Magennis not coming on earlier wasn’t down to a Sport science decision and “managing his load”

I get that but why bring him on so late, just about pointless.
Henderson was poor. Feel sorry for Tavares, had his moment set up and Henderson plays it behind him and out of play.
Big Myko played well in spells but from the angle behind the goal he just needs to play that short pass back first time on his left into the empty net. Also had the chance to roll in Campbell first half but got shot away at least and made keeper work. Scored a perfectly good goal and great effort with the overhead.

McKirdy too eager to shoot at times in good positions. Regardless is too early to judge.

Frustrating game, frustrating officials and getting beat is like a kick in the plums but we never gave it up and went down scrapping. Was always going to be a tough game as will Celtic. Two home games to follow and we need to pick up points again

[Oscar T Grouch]

I hope Dundee Utd get relegated for the next three seasons. Horrible club, anti football cheating *******s!

[Nicho87]

I would have moved Boyle up front playing in behind myk

However can take getting defeated, we had a tonne of shots, can’t score more concerned if we’re creating sod all.

We were poor from the first minute imo but still should have won.

United are a horrible club I’ve never liked their fans and that confirms it tonight.

We move on.

[Kato]

It’s a football cliche but better to make chances and miss them than not to create in the first place.For sure the lack of goals is a big problem.Our defence is actually pretty sound but if the boys up top don’t score then conceding one inevitably results in dropped points.Didn’t see the game myself but all I have read suggests we played well enough.We move on .I agree and think the strikers we have have goals in them. None of them played here before, none of them getting a break and Johnson hasn't found a blend yet. 17 shots at goal tonight.

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[Stuart93]

From the ballboy or from the stands?

Sounded more like the stands, was an aulder guys voice

[Stuart93]

Always more a concern when you're not creating chances. We're creating loads but just not converting - that will come. Definitely going in right direction. Jan will see another opportunity to replace failures with better quality.

Does the converting chances just come? We’re still missing a poacher for me. Someone who’s always in the right place at the right time

[JohnM1875]

I agree and think the strikers we have have goals in them. None of them played here before, none of them getting a break and Johnson hasn't found a blend yet. 17 shots at goal tonight.

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A few big saves from their keeper as well. Just off the top of my head a touch on the ball across the box that takes it away from Youn for a tap in, 1 on 1 from Myko and then from the big man's overhead attempt.

Frustrating cause we really did pump them and deserved at least a goal.

[Unseen work]

It’s funny because Youan has been poor and will likely be dropped against Celtic but I think that’s a game he’d suit perfectly due to his pace.

In saying that McKirdy isn’t slow.

[Donegal Hibby]

Sounded more like the stands, was an aulder guys voice
Has to be investigated and life time ban given no less

[cabbageandribs1875]

League wins

Dundee utd 66
Hibs 62




heartz will win the league cup before we finally catch they gits








well, maybe

[Donegal Hibby]

It’s funny because Youan has been poor and will likely be dropped against Celtic but I think that’s a game he’d suit perfectly due to his pace.

In saying that McKirdy isn’t slow.
Didn't think that game suited Youan tonight either .Can't understand why our forwards aren't scoring goals even Boyle poor tonight imo .

[JimBHibees]

We aren’t getting anything on Saturday, so could have done with another three points tonight. No excuse for the attackers being that powderpuff up front. Porteous and Campbell have chipped in with goals that’s covered up the strikers lack of ability to finish chances and tonight it caught up with us.

Get a striker capable of actually taking chances.

Can definitely get something at Celtc

[JohnM1875]

Can definitely get something at Celtc

Of course we can. I'm actually really looking forward to seeing how LJ approaches it.

[JimBHibees]

It was a night for a bit of Doidge-ball imo. He would have bundled a chance in, he also had a good record against United.

Have you watched any Hibs games this season?

[Mcbizz1998]

Have you watched any Hibs games this season?

Yes, every single one.

I’m joking about Doidge, remain calm.

[Onion]

Does the converting chances just come? We’re still missing a poacher for me. Someone who’s always in the right place at the right time

Yes. Doidge is good example, couldn't buy a goal for weeks but gets one and then can't stop scoring. All about confidence and getting the breaks. As long as we continue to create, goals will eventually come.

LJ has had one window and Nisbet still to come back. DU will get there's, and a few others who have got off lightly so far.

[#2 Double Tap]

Didn't think that game suited Youan tonight either .Can't understand why our forwards aren't scoring goals even Boyle poor tonight imo .

It’s the team shape and tactics. Wingers n forwards are too isolated from each other and midfield not supporting enough. I would like to see youan and Boyle tucked in tighter to Mykola and cadden n cabraja pushed up to give us width.
Centre midfield is still not working good. We just can’t seem to get the right balance of players in there.

We Need two midfielders getting forward. We had newell sitting so deep again tonight, he is useless playing that role, much better with him driving forward playing a CAM type role.

[Donegal Hibby]

Yes. Doidge is good example, couldn't buy a goal for weeks but gets one and then can't stop scoring. All about confidence and getting the breaks. As long as we continue to create, goals will eventually come.

LJ has had one window and Nisbet still to come back. DU will get there's, and a few others who have got off lightly so far.
Glad someone brought up Nisbet I think he's our most natural finisher . Think he will score plenty in this team the way we play now

[Hibbyradge]

League wins

Dundee utd 66
Hibs 62




heartz will win the league cup before we finally catch they gits








well, maybe

Wtf?

[NAE NOOKIE]

FFS ..... The elephant in the bloody room. 10 games .... 15 hours of premier league football this season not counting added on time, and not a single Hibs forward with the exception of Martin Boyle ( a winger ) has managed to put the ball in the net ..... 15 sodding hours !!!

That's not based on disappointment at losing tonight, I could have posted this after the Motherwell game or the Aberdeen game before it and nearly did, the only thing to change would have been the number of hours being reduced slightly because it was less games.

Kevin Nisbet was poor before he got injured, but even of he's fit enough to limp about he's gonna' walk into this team, because that is a stat that's beyond abysmal, FFS even when we last got relegated I doubt we could point to a 10 match long run of games where at least one forward hadn't put the ball into the net.

In all honesty if Rocky is fit to play we should partner him with Hanlon and put Porteous at centre forward, at least he can score goals. It's a shame McGeady isn't up to scratch yet, because we could have him as our 'threat' on the wing and play Boyle through the middle.

This is a massive problem for us and it's time we recognised it as that. It's all very well midfield players and defenders digging us out all the time, but a team whose forwards cant put the ball in the net has a massive problem.

[jacomo]

FFS ..... The elephant in the bloody room. 10 games .... 15 hours of premier league football this season not counting added on time, and not a single Hibs forward with the exception of Martin Boyle ( a winger ) has managed to put the ball in the net ..... 15 sodding hours !!!

That's not based on disappointment at losing tonight, I could have posted this after the Motherwell game or the Aberdeen game before it and nearly did, the only thing to change would have been the number of hours being reduced slightly because it was less games.

Kevin Nisbet was poor before he got injured, but even of he's fit enough to limp about he's gonna' walk into this team, because that is a stat that's beyond abysmal, FFS even when we last got relegated I doubt we could point to a 10 match long run of games where at least one forward hadn't put the ball into the net.

In all honesty if Rocky is fit to play we should partner him with Hanlon and put Porteous at centre forward, at least he can score goals. It's a shame McGeady isn't up to scratch yet, because we could have him as our 'threat' on the wing and play Boyle through the middle.

This is a massive problem for us and it's time we recognised it as that. It's all very well midfield players and defenders digging us out all the time, but a team whose forwards cant put the ball in the net has a massive problem.


Sounds like tonight was the night big Mike should have got off the mark, with an assist from Youan.

Can’t really legislate for wrongly disallowed goals.

[Donegal Hibby]

Sounds like tonight was the night big Mike should have got off the mark, with an assist from Youan.

Can’t really legislate for wrongly disallowed goals.
Lee Johnson says it was 100% a goal haven't read it yet but it's in EEN if you want to check it out?

[JohnM1875]

Lee Johnson says it was 100% a goal haven't read it yet but it's in EEN if you want to check it out?

"Speaking after the match Johnson took aim at the whistler and his assistants.

“I have really mixed emotions, there’s a bit of anger in there; anger with the officials for their performance,” he said.

“It is one hundred percent a goal. The far side linesman was 150 per cent sure – that was what I was told – that it was a shove by Élie Youan before the goal. Unbelievable.”

The Easter Road boss voiced his support for the early introduction of VAR, which is set to be brought into the Scottish game this season, and felt Tony Watt was lucky to stay on the park.


“He should have been sent off and booked three times but we’ll have to leave that for the SFA.”

Hibs were guilty of profligacy in front of goal with Kukharevych and Martin Boyle the main offenders, while Dundee United goalkeeper Carljohan Eriksson bailed his team-mates out on several occasions with a string of fine saves.


It was a night of fantastic goalkeeping and poor finishing, depending how you look at it,” Johnson continued.

"Some of our play was superb. We had a lot of goalscorers on the pitch who couldn’t score goals and you would expect us to take two or three of those chances at least.

“If you play that game 100 times, we win 65, draw 15 and lose the rest."


Johnson makes heavy use of data and analytics in his coaching and rued the fact that, despite watching his team come back on previous occasions after losing an early goal, they were unable to do so after Behich’s 11th-minute strike.


“I can’t be too displeased with the performance, on the data – percentile-wise it was a win, although in the end it wasn’t,” he explained.

“But I was disappointed with the goal. We have given away too many first goals this season.

“Often we have come back, shown character, but we just couldn’t get the ball in the net.”

[#2 Double Tap]

Lee Johnson says it was 100% a goal haven't read it yet but it's in EEN if you want to check it out?

Var woulda ruled it out for the push, not that I agree but that’s how they will see it.

Just think how hard it is gonna be to score an equaliser or winner against the old firm with someone sitting in a bunker on the m8 reviewing the decisions.

[Callum_62]

Var woulda ruled it out for the push, not that I agree but that’s how they will see it.

Just think how hard it is gonna be to score an equaliser or winner against the old firm with someone sitting in a bunker on the m8 reviewing the decisions.If var is used to the. Same physicality standards as England im 150 percent sure its a goal

Infact under any standards its a goal


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[BoomtownHibees]

It’s the team shape and tactics. Wingers n forwards are too isolated from each other and midfield not supporting enough. I would like to see youan and Boyle tucked in tighter to Mykola and cadden n cabraja pushed up to give us width.
Centre midfield is still not working good. We just can’t seem to get the right balance of players in there.

We Need two midfielders getting forward. We had newell sitting so deep again tonight, he is useless playing that role, much better with him driving forward playing a CAM type role.

We have just won 4 games on the trot. Something must be working although did feel the team could have been doing with a bit of a shake up tonight

[Callum_62]

Intersting graphic on how we are playing these days


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[snedzuk]

I thought we were pretty ***** tonight.

Youan, Campbell, newell, cadden, Boyle all well below par.

Also Kenneh n Henderson

Kenneh was really poor and Cadden appeared to have brought lead boots with him.

[#2 Double Tap]

We have just won 4 games on the trot. Something must be working although did feel the team could have been doing with a bit of a shake up tonight

No doubt we have won.

It’s just how I see it.
Also think The sending offs in those games have helped us.

Against 11 men we appear a little disjointed still imo.

Some players look good, some look honking.

Still far away from being a fluid attacking team. We have improved a bit just got miles still to go.

[heretoday]

Let's face it. Most of Scottish football is crap. Apart from the Old Firm we are all in a cesspit trying to get some air.

[Donegal Hibby]

"Speaking after the match Johnson took aim at the whistler and his assistants.

“I have really mixed emotions, there’s a bit of anger in there; anger with the officials for their performance,” he said.

“It is one hundred percent a goal. The far side linesman was 150 per cent sure – that was what I was told – that it was a shove by Élie Youan before the goal. Unbelievable.”

The Easter Road boss voiced his support for the early introduction of VAR, which is set to be brought into the Scottish game this season, and felt Tony Watt was lucky to stay on the park.


“He should have been sent off and booked three times but we’ll have to leave that for the SFA.”

Hibs were guilty of profligacy in front of goal with Kukharevych and Martin Boyle the main offenders, while Dundee United goalkeeper Carljohan Eriksson bailed his team-mates out on several occasions with a string of fine saves.


It was a night of fantastic goalkeeping and poor finishing, depending how you look at it,” Johnson continued.

"Some of our play was superb. We had a lot of goalscorers on the pitch who couldn’t score goals and you would expect us to take two or three of those chances at least.

“If you play that game 100 times, we win 65, draw 15 and lose the rest."


Johnson makes heavy use of data and analytics in his coaching and rued the fact that, despite watching his team come back on previous occasions after losing an early goal, they were unable to do so after Behich’s 11th-minute strike.


“I can’t be too displeased with the performance, on the data – percentile-wise it was a win, although in the end it wasn’t,” he explained.

“But I was disappointed with the goal. We have given away too many first goals this season.

“Often we have come back, shown character, but we just couldn’t get the ball in the net.”
So it was the linesman that we thought didn't raise his flag that chalked the goal off then ?

[B.H.F.C]

No doubt we have won.

It’s just how I see it.
Also think The sending offs in those games have helped us.

Against 11 men we appear a little disjointed still imo.

Some players look good, some look honking.

Still far away from being a fluid attacking team. We have improved a bit just got miles still to go.

It’s not perfect but we create a hell of a lot of chances. Not just half chances from hurling the ball in to the box, proper full on chances.

The lack of quality in the final third with the exception of Boyle (who was as guilty as anyone tonight) has cost us a few points this season.

I think Magennis will be back in the team before too much longer which will give us a bit more in the middle of the park.

[#2 Double Tap]

It’s not perfect but we create a hell of a lot of chances. Not just half chances from hurling the ball in to the box, proper full on chances.

The lack of quality in the final third with the exception of Boyle (who was as guilty as anyone tonight) has cost us a few points this season.

I think Magennis will be back in the team before too much longer which will give us a bit more in the middle of the park.

I hope yer right buddy.

[Donegal Hibby]

The EEN says Var would have been good tonight regarding the awkward situation about the Hibs goal as linesman raised his flag for off side and Referee blew also for a push from Youan on the Utd player.

[Tambo]

Didn't see the game due to work but sounding like a very frustrating night with most of the ball and chances.

Tough one coming up on Saturday then two home games vs the saints to get back on the points table.

[BoomtownHibees]

The EEN says Var would have been good tonight regarding the awkward situation about the Hibs goal as linesman raised his flag for off side and Referee blew also for a push from Youan on the Utd player.

LJ said after the match he was told it was for a push by Youan, given by the linesman who was about 3 miles away from the incident

[Donegal Hibby]

Didn't see the game due to work but sounding like a very frustrating night with most of the ball and chances.

Tough one coming up on Saturday then two home games vs the saints to get back on the points table.
Saturday's a free hit for us so let's give it a go and who knows we might get lucky though that could be the couple of pints a Guinness I've had talking. :greengrin

[yerauldda]

Some crazy takes on here. Two of those chances go in the net and it’s the best we have played this season. Youan and Henderson were very poor but everyone else played really well, finishing aside.

[dmc1875]

Some crazy takes on here. Two of those chances go in the net and it’s the best we have played this season. Youan and Henderson were very poor but everyone else played really well, finishing aside.

Boyle didn’t - which shows again when Boyle is off it so are we

[blackpoolhibs]

Campbell was injured

Irrelivant, he should have been on way before Campbell was injured, in fact he should have subbed his sub Henderson around 5 minutes after he put him on.

He also put a winger on, Tavarez, who is one of those wingers who has never beat a full back in his life.:confused:

[bigwheel]

Boyle didn’t - which shows again when Boyle is off it so are we

I don’t think that’s the case these days. We created more than enough last night with Boyle not involved much .

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Myko was unlucky tonight. Should have had his goal. Had a good save from keeper in first half which should have been a corner but bye kick given. Over head kick, either side of the keeper and it’s in. One on one, looked like he just couldn’t get the ball out of his feet quick enough, still hit the target but perhaps should have done better.

Definitely improving.

[Trinity Hibee]

https://twitter.com/crambchantelle/status/1579973508020711424?s=46&t=AWhfhcidn3QCSj_vk-8ivQ

Found this quite amusing. If we don’t laugh we’ll cry

[hibeerealist]

Didn't think that game suited Youan tonight either .Can't understand why our forwards aren't scoring goals even Boyle poor tonight imo .

Interested to know what games DO suit Youan?

Athletics will suit him better than fitba, dont see the player that others seem to see.

[Donegal Hibby]

Interested to know what games DO suit Youan?

Athletics will suit him better than fitba, dont see the player that others seem to see.
He's looked good at times for me though last night he was poor . I thought Utd sat in deep against Hibs .Read A article that said Utd played a. 3-4-3 formation . Looked like a 5 -4-1 to me . Point being Utd defended a lot with plenty of men back with little space to work with . Going to parkhead I guarantee Celtic wont be sitting in deep trying to counter attack us the way Utd did , they will be going for the jugular from the off imo which should leave more space for us to counter attack them which I think would suit Youan better.Speaking of Youan he had a really bad game no doubt about that but he wasn't the only one though .

[Lago]

Hibs loose after 4 wins and it's all doom and gloom again.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Interested to know what games DO suit Youan?

Athletics will suit him better than fitba, dont see the player that others seem to see.


Youan has potential, but that's not what we need for the first team right now.

[Alfred E Newman]

Hibs loose after 4 wins and it's all doom and gloom again.

I think is more frustration. We were playing the team at the bottom of the league and had a great opportunity to open up a sizable gap in 3rd spot before a difficult game coming up on Saturday. It would have given us a free hit at Celtic but now another defeat will probably see us drop back to 4th or 5th.
As I say, very frustrating.

[JeMeSouviens]

Youan has potential, but that's not what we need for the first team right now.

He reminds me of Simon Murray. He's fast, has some good touches, but looks like he played his first 11 a side game a month ago.

[Donegal Hibby]

Hibs loose after 4 wins and it's all doom and gloom again.
Yep ,that's what happens sadly .on another thread someone even blames our recruitment again. :rolleyes:

[Since452]

I think is more frustration. We were playing the team at the bottom of the league and had a great opportunity to open up a sizable gap in 3rd spot before a difficult game coming up on Saturday. It would have given us a free hit at Celtic but now another defeat will probably see us drop back to 4th or 5th.
As I say, very frustrating.

Yup. I said before the game last night we should be disappointed with a draw. A defeat is very frustrating. Yes, we were the better team but if you don't take your chances you always run the risk of getting beat. Just got to make sure we give St Johnstone a beating.

[Donegal Hibby]

I think is more frustration. We were playing the team at the bottom of the league and had a great opportunity to open up a sizable gap in 3rd spot before a difficult game coming up on Saturday. It would have given us a free hit at Celtic but now another defeat will probably see us drop back to 4th or 5th.
As I say, very frustrating.
It was a frustrating night alright ,Though cause they were bottom I didn't see it as a easy game at all ,away from home against a team that was on a high from a very good previous result , who imo have some good players . On another night we would have got something though. Leagues tight and I don't see many easy games in it . There will be ups and downs along the way and teams will swap and change league positions quite a bit .As for Celtic it's still a free hit for us .Nobody expects us to get anything there and I'm sure this team will give it ago . While I agree with you it's frustrating there's still far more to be excited and positive about. :aok:

[sesoim]

Yep ,that's what happens sadly .on another thread someone even blames our recruitment again. :rolleyes:

Are you being sarcastic? Most of our signings in the last year or so HAVE been poor. 20 odd signings in a year and most of them, predictably, are no where near good enough.

At least Johnson seemed to take full control of our signing policy towards the end of the window, as he had to. I think he'll get rid of 12-15 of the squad over the next couple of windows. Hopefully, we'll use those freed up wages to get quality in next time.

[sesoim]

He reminds me of Simon Murray. He's fast, has some good touches, but looks like he played his first 11 a side game a month ago.

Youan would probably need about two years of good coaching to get up to a decent level. Sproule developed quickly under Mowbray, and Boyle gradually got better, but some players are more capable of learning than others.

[cameronw-hfc]

Youan would probably need about two years of good coaching to get up to a decent level. Sproule developed quickly under Mowbray, and Boyle gradually got better, but some players are more capable of learning than others.

I disagree, I see kids similar to Youan all the time. He just needs to learn when to release the ball, and put one in the back of the net and we will see him look twice the player. Confidence is a huge thing in football, and will get in the way of decision making.