Goodwin

[Bridge hibs]

Just seen this picture, looks like i got it wrong, although this was after Ryan pulled/dragged him back. 26190Cant really see the picture clearly but is that Scales ? I thought he had blond hair, but then again Im blind as a bat 🫣

[blackpoolhibs]

Cant really see the picture clearly but is that Scales ? I thought he had blond hair, but then again Im blind as a bat 🫣

OOPS. You might be right :agree:

[DaveF]

Cant really see the picture clearly but is that Scales ? I thought he had blond hair, but then again Im blind as a bat 🫣

It's also from a previous season as kit is different (well the socks are)

[matty_f]

It's also from a previous season as kit is different (well the socks are)

It’s from the penalty we got against Jim Goodwin’s St Mirren last season.

[DaveF]

It’s from the penalty we got against Jim Goodwin’s St Mirren last season.

Haha, right. I just saw the red and thought baaaa.

[Gmack7]

var would not overturn the penalty decision as its not a clear and obvious error, they might overturn the 2nd yellow as there's a different protocol for that, what won't change is that Goodwin is out of order and needs to wind his ****in neck in

[Carheenlea]

Hoping Hibs haven’t decided to let this go away quietly. Goodwin can’t be allowed to defame Ryan Porteous’s character in this manner.

Yes, the penalty award is worthy of debate, but in no way whatsoever can Ryan Porteous be accused of “cheating” or diving in this instance, or even worse, being a serial cheat.

Hibs should maybe consider taking legal advice from their lawyers as to where things stand with this.

[CallumLaidlaw]

Hoping Hibs haven’t decided to let this go away quietly. Goodwin can’t be allowed to defame Ryan Porteous’s character in this manner.

Yes, the penalty award is worthy of debate, but in no way whatsoever can Ryan Porteous be accused of “cheating” or diving in this instance, or even worse, being a serial cheat.

Hibs should maybe consider taking legal advice from their lawyers as to where things stand with this.

I’d be wanting Roos, their keeper, hammered as well.


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[worcesterhibby]

Next time we play Aberdeen, before kick off the Hibs players should line up on the touchline in front of the Aberdeen bench and stare Goodwin down. Let him know that he has only brought the players together against him and his ****ty little team.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Incredible

Kelle Roos claims he heard Ryan Porteous was a 'diver' BEFORE game as Aberdeen keeper pulls no punches

bit.ly/3qPXrDI

Would be surprised if anybody had even heard of Kelle Roos before this. A nobody.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

I’d be wanting Roos, their keeper, hammered as well.


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The article is "written " by a goalie who says that diving isn't his thing...

[matty_f]

If anyone wants to assess the impact of Goodwin’s comments, the BBC Sportsound/Sportscene team went from assessing the penalty as the correct decision at the time, to questioning it, to agreeing with Goodwin, then incredibly to it becoming a “blatant dive”.

[Libby Hibby]

If anyone wants to assess the impact of Goodwin’s comments, the BBC Sportsound/Sportscene team went from assessing the penalty as the correct decision at the time, to questioning it, to agreeing with Goodwin, then incredibly to it becoming a “blatant dive”.

These sequence of events just beggars belief.

[Since452]

Would be surprised if anybody had even heard of Kelle Roos before this. A nobody.

I still don't know who he is. Is he the Aberdeen keeper?

[snedzuk]

I still don't know who he is. Is he the Aberdeen keeper?

He was in goal for Aberdeen - whether he's a keeper is open to question.

[Since452]

He was in goal for Aberdeen - whether he's a keeper is open to question.

Maybe we should give him a break then? He must be shattered from picking the ball out his net all the time.

[EskbankHibby]

If anyone wants to assess the impact of Goodwin’s comments, the BBC Sportsound/Sportscene team went from assessing the penalty as the correct decision at the time, to questioning it, to agreeing with Goodwin, then incredibly to it becoming a “blatant dive”.

This is one of the things that I'm finding irritating about this extremely transparent Goodwin tactic.

It's designed to deflect from his own failings and his teams failings. It's also designed to make it less likely that we ever get a decision again if Porto goes down in the box - there was a similar narrative about a year ago in relation to Boyle.

The club have got to call this stuff out for what it is, I'm not talking about journalist/BBC bans (that's a bit too Rangers for me) but we need to come out and back our player and ensure Goodwin is hammered.

[Donegal Hibby]

He was in goal for Aberdeen - whether he's a keeper is open to question.
Very doubtful he is since he's admitted he doesn't like diving

[matty_f]

This is one of the things that I'm finding irritating about this extremely transparent Goodwin tactic.

It's designed to deflect from his own failings and his teams failings. It's also designed to make it less likely that we ever get a decision again if Porto goes down in the box - there was a similar narrative about a year ago in relation to Boyle.

The club have got to call this stuff out for what it is, I'm not talking about journalist/BBC bans (that's a bit too Rangers for me) but we need to come out and back our player and ensure Goodwin is hammered.

Said the same last night. Hibs need to go on the front door and change the narrative on Porto.

[Sir David Gray]

Incredible

Kelle Roos claims he heard Ryan Porteous was a 'diver' BEFORE game as Aberdeen keeper pulls no punches

bit.ly/3qPXrDI

Think he should maybe reflect on his own behaviour before criticising anyone else.

He kicked the ball into the east stand after our second goal which smacked off an elderly fan.

Pathetic.

[angus hibby]

Obviously Porteous in nowhere near his ability, but Sergio Ramos has been doing this sort of thing for 10-15 years. It's part of the game whether Goodwin likes it or not.

On another note, liking the way we have many players surrounding the ref when bad tackles etc go in against our players. Quite often there are easily 5 or 6 of our players surrounding the ref, putting pressure on him.

[hibees 7062]

He’s lucky it was only 3-1

[Since452]

Absolutley love it when Porteous rattles the opposition. Especially when he's playing well like he did on Saturday. Keep it up son.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Obviously Porteous in nowhere near his ability, but Sergio Ramos has been doing this sort of thing for 10-15 years. It's part of the game whether Goodwin likes it or not.

On another note, liking the way we have many players surrounding the ref when bad tackles etc go in against our players. Quite often there are easily 5 or 6 of our players surrounding the ref, putting pressure on him.

Always annoyed me that we didn’t used to do it.

I’d prefer nobody done it, but everyone does it against us and I felt we didn’t do it often enough. I’ve no doubt it’s helped our case with a few of the reds this season.

[Clarence]

Was Goodwin not a well known hatchet man in his playing days?

Some of his classic work

https://youtu.be/kxteLoQveAs

[weecounty hibby]

So Porto has won 2 pens for Hibs. Both times as far as I can see he was attacking the ball, both times the defenders were looking at him and not the ball, both times the defenders have ended up pulling him down. Both time Jim Goodwin was the manager. Maybe it's his coaching that is all wrong and he needs to take a look at that. It's clearly something he is telling the defenders to do. Knob

[brog]

I just watched the game on Alba. You can see clearly as Joe N takes the corner that,
1. Ryan is looking for the cross and starting his run in.
2. Scales has his back to play, instead he is looking straight at Ryan, Scales already has his right hand on Ryan's shoulder/chest and his left arm is also coming straight up to block Ryan.
3. The ref is at the corner of the box staring straight at Porteous/Scales, maybe we should thank Goodwin for drawing the refs attention to it. :wink:
What happens after that is 50/50 but there's no doubt Scales initiated the contact. There's also no doubt that if Scales had looked to fairly contest for the ball then there would have been no penalty.
I took a screenshot but have no idea how to put it on here. I'm sure Hibs will be doing similar!!

[Gmack7]

Porteous should have had more penalties awarded, there was one ibrox a few years back and the blatant push in the cup final v celtic, he doesn't get a fair crack of the whip at either end of the pitch, Goodwin in a total rocket

[007]

Goodwin is a fanny
He is a f***in' tw@t
He signs second rate keepers
And other sh*te like that

Then he played the Hibees
And suddenly it dawned
Porto won a penalty
and the referee'd been conned

[Libby Hibby]

Goodwin is a fanny
He is a f***in' tw@t
He signs second rate keepers
And other sh*te like that

Then he played the Hibees
And suddenly it dawned
Porto won a penalty
and the referee'd been conned

10/10 👏

[staunchhibby]

If by chance that Goodwin is still Aberdeens manager on there next visit to Easter Road can we not put on A display of support for Porto and display Goodwins previous thuggery as a player

[Billy Whizz]

If his team capitulate again, like they did in the 2nd half in Saturday, he won’t be Aberdeen Team Manager for too long after

[Bobby's Cinema]

What was he doing out on the park before the game aswell, coaching and getting the away fans fired up.
Had a touch of the Phil Brown's I think he'd lost if from the start not sure I've ever seen a manager doing that before.

Up until now I'd always thought he was pretty decent in terms of balance after a game and acknowledging the opposition in interviews etc. If he has any class he should come out and retract his comments.

[Hibiza]

Goodwin : Gamekeeper turned poacher with a irritating mouth.

[McD]

Aberdeen fan's view: https://twitter.com/eaonp/status/1571313205473058816?s=20&t=pnwxBb6oXc6iP6l9BSv44g

McCrorie handball not given: https://twitter.com/Tweet_Russ/status/1571198196646383618?s=20&t=pnwxBb6oXc6iP6l9BSv44g



this crap is really annoying me, that scales got a red card for the penalty, I’ve seen it in a few places now.

he did not get a red card for the foul, he got a yellow card. The red only followed because he’d already been booked. If the ref deemed it to be a straight red offence, he’d have shown that.

it’s either blatant twisting of the truth to make it seem like Aberdeen were hard done by, or some folk are too thick to understand the laws of the game

[gbhibby]

I just watched the game on Alba. You can see clearly as Joe N takes the corner that,
1. Ryan is looking for the cross and starting his run in.
2. Scales has his back to play, instead he is looking straight at Ryan, Scales already has his right hand on Ryan's shoulder/chest and his left arm is also coming straight up to block Ryan.
3. The ref is at the corner of the box staring straight at Porteous/Scales, maybe we should thank Goodwin for drawing the refs attention to it. :wink:
What happens after that is 50/50 but there's no doubt Scales initiated the contact. There's also no doubt t0hat if Scales had looked to fairly contest for the ball then there would have been no penalty.
I took a screenshot but have no idea how to put it on here. I'm sure Hibs will be doing similar!!
Any other player it is being clever when it Ryan involved he has conned the ref. Have said for a few years we need to be more streetwise, have seen players from other teams in the league going down with little or no contact and it being described as he played for that or he invited the contact. The people making these comments are not qualified refs so their opinion is worth Jack S###.

[Onion]

Absolutley love it when Porteous rattles the opposition. Especially when he's playing well like he did on Saturday. Keep it up son.

Agreed. We've been crying out at this club for players with some balls. We're too often seen as a soft touch where Hibs roll over for teams with half our ability. Personally, think it's great opposition managers, players and the media are getting the frillies in a twist over Hibs and Hibs players :thumbsup:

Something we should celebrate and enjoy.

[Onion]

If his team capitulate again, like they did in the 2nd half in Saturday, he won’t be Aberdeen Team Manager for too long after

And here is the real story behind the day. Aberdeen were poor, very poor, deserving nothing from the game. This is pure and simple deflection by Goodwin. Really nothing to do with Ryan P, all to do with avoiding having to answer the tough questions about how bad his team were, in a key game in the capital.

[GRA]

And here is the real story behind the day. Aberdeen were poor, very poor, deserving nothing from the game. This is pure and simple deflection by Goodwin. Really nothing to do with Ryan P, all to do with avoiding having to answer the tough questions about how bad his team were, in a key game in the capital.

This 100%. Porto is the easy target man and, seeing as he seems to live rent free in the heads of a lot of the biased pundits and media, gives them a suitable deflection from the obvious reality that they allowed us to stroll to victory.

Shows how worried they are about Porto, gets under their skins, and they must hate seeing him in the Scotland squad.

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

Some of his classic work

https://youtu.be/kxteLoQveAs

Goodwin’s entire career summed up in 30 seconds. Horrendous lunge which should have been a red, a cowardly elbow to the face which should have been a straight red, sarcastically applauding the ref to try and cover his own **** up, pretending to need pulled away from players on his way off the pitch to try and keep up his cartoon hard man act, mouthing off at the 4th official as he left the field. Complete and utter roaster of a guy

[Roxyhibee]

Well I nearly turned the car around on my way to the game after I heard Willie Miller describing the Sheep summer recruitment as ‘spectacular’.! Thousands of their fans were heading to ER in high expectation by all accounts. Truth is they were time wasting after about 15 mins, generally flat, outplayed by Hibs all over the park and lucky not to get a 5 or 6 - 1 doing from us. Goodwin is a chancer and in a pressure job, so the clown picks on Porteous to deflect from his own incompetence. Definite penalty by the way and we also should have had 2 more.

[gbhibby]

https://youtu.be/A2CVR2HS0KQ
Another one from Jim Goodwin what do you think?

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[Kato]

And here is the real story behind the day. Aberdeen were poor, very poor, deserving nothing from the game. This is pure and simple deflection by Goodwin. Really nothing to do with Ryan P, all to do with avoiding having to answer the tough questions about how bad his team were, in a key game in the capital.They only good aspects of their play was some very blocks and a few last ditch clearances.

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[Leith Green]

Any other player it is being clever when it Ryan involved he has conned the ref. Have said for a few years we need to be more streetwise, have seen players from other teams in the league going down with little or no contact and it being described as he played for that or he invited the contact. The people making these comments are not qualified refs so their opinion is worth Jack S###.


I seem to remember Steven Pressley making a career out of being a master of the dark arts. Yet he was a darling of the scottish media ..

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

this crap is really annoying me, that scales got a red card for the penalty, I’ve seen it in a few places now.

he did not get a red card for the foul, he got a yellow card. The red only followed because he’d already been booked. If the ref deemed it to be a straight red offence, he’d have shown that.

it’s either blatant twisting of the truth to make it seem like Aberdeen were hard done by, or some folk are too thick to understand the laws of the game

Goodwin on the radio after the game said he’d hope Scales red card would be rescinded!

The guy is clueless.

[Kato]

Goodwin on the radio after the game said he’d hope Scales red card would be rescinded!

The guy is clueless.Two yellows. If Porteous had committed the fist foul it would be headline news.

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[hibsbollah]

Two yellows. If Porteous had committed the fist foul it would be headline news.

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Are they claiming Porto fisted him now as well? :dunno:

It’s getting ridiculous, I think Meghan Markle gets an easier time of it from journalists than Porteous.

[500miles]

Aberdeen fan's view: https://twitter.com/eaonp/status/1571313205473058816?s=20&t=pnwxBb6oXc6iP6l9BSv44g

McCrorie handball not given: https://twitter.com/Tweet_Russ/status/1571198196646383618?s=20&t=pnwxBb6oXc6iP6l9BSv44g

That first link shows Scales wrapping his arms around Porto well before any "headlock". Penalty, about the only decision the ref got right all day.

[Kato]

Oops

[Kato]

Are they claiming Porto fisted him now as well? :dunno:

It’s getting ridiculous, I think Meghan Markle gets an easier time of it from journalists than Porteous.Hehe. Second part not far off the money.

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[Viva_Palmeiras]

Baa baa slack Sheep
have you any wins?

[bingo70]

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/sport/football/lee-johnson-accused-encouraging-hibs-28033983

A pretty unbelievable take on the events there.

[The Spaceman]

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/sport/football/lee-johnson-accused-encouraging-hibs-28033983

A pretty unbelievable take on the events there.

That is hilariously awful. Ban them from Easter Road for the next year Hibs.

God forbid this was an OF player/club with comments such as that attached. Conroy etc would need bodyguards if they dared to say such things about the ugly sisters.

[hibsbollah]

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/sport/football/lee-johnson-accused-encouraging-hibs-28033983

A pretty unbelievable take on the events there.

MENTAL HEALTH WARNING, Do not open this link if you are a Hibs fan and value your blood pressure or overall emotional equilibrium.

[Scottie]

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/sport/football/lee-johnson-accused-encouraging-hibs-28033983

A pretty unbelievable take on the events there.


MENTAL HEALTH WARNING, Do not open this link if you are a Hibs fan and value your blood pressure or overall emotional equilibrium.
Disgraceful journalism at its finest. All aboard the Hibs pile on. Get them all banned from ER. :grr:

[Libby Hibby]

It’s officially open season on our club. If we do not come out fighting then we never will.

[Real Emerald]

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/sport/football/lee-johnson-accused-encouraging-hibs-28033983

A pretty unbelievable take on the events there.

That is unbelievable, Hibs really need to do something about this constant witch hunt and it’s not just Porteous, it’s every penalty we get or sending off against us. Absolutely no reporting of the stuff given against us or the penalties not awarded for us. It really is getting ridiculous now.

[green day]

As a general point, the SFA wont be pulling LJ up for anything, he said and did nothing wrong - that pair are just saying something to make a few quid - best ignored.

These stories wouldnt be appearing if we were not winning matches, or scoring late goals, grinding out wins that Maloney and Ross would nto have got.

I noticed the other day that we were almost top of the table for fouls committed, but have not suffered a huge upsurge in cards.

I think that LJ has, indeed, made us more streetwise - and more power to him for that, we have been soft on the park for too long.

If it makes these idiots rage in the press or online articles that nobody really reads, then its working as far as I can tell.

[Victor]

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/sport/football/lee-johnson-accused-encouraging-hibs-28033983

A pretty unbelievable take on the events there.

That is a straightforward hatchet job, totally devoid of any truth. Not surprising, considering that it is the Express. Cannot wait for the Daily Mail’s version. ‘Porteous Disrespects Queen With Blatant Dive’.

[mjhibby]

As a general point, the SFA wont be pulling LJ up for anything, he said and did nothing wrong - that pair are just saying something to make a few quid - best ignored.

These stories wouldnt be appearing if we were not winning matches, or scoring late goals, grinding out wins that Maloney and Ross would nto have got.

I noticed the other day that we were almost top of the table for fouls committed, but have not suffered a huge upsurge in cards.

I think that LJ has, indeed, made us more streetwise - and more power to him for that, we have been soft on the park for too long.

If it makes these idiots rage in the press or online articles that nobody really reads, then its working as far as I can tell.

Have to agree with that. Too many times been bullied out of games and dubious free kicks against us. Teams know we will give as good as we get now. Long overdue.

[Hiber-nation]

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/sport/football/lee-johnson-accused-encouraging-hibs-28033983

A pretty unbelievable take on the events there.

The good play that LJ was referring to was the way the corner was forced, the corner itself and the run Porto made.

Astonishing to think these clowns thought he was referring to the way the pen was won.

[bingo70]

Anyone who knows anything about football knows what LJ means. We are playing on the front foot, getting into attacking areas which is causing teams to make fouls in dangerous areas, when that happens players get booked. The same was true in reverse when we had an awful disciplinary record prior to Ross being sacked.

I get the penalty was debatable and that’s fine but if Porteous is getting called out a cheat for that, every bit of holding and grappling at every corner is a result of players cheating too. It’s a contact sport and these things happen some times, it’s not cheating

The stuff about LJ in that article doesn’t even deserve the air time of it being discussed, just nonsense.

[bingo70]

The good play that LJ was referring to was the way the corner was forced, the corner itself and the run Porto made.

Astonishing to think these clowns thought he was referring to the way the pen was won.

Also a bit odd they’re not calling out Goodwin for trying to influence a referee before the game. It’s a difficult job they’ve got, they don’t need managers ot either side putting pressure on them. Sounds like he wanted his defence to be physical but hoped he could get in the refs head so they could get away with it.

[brog]

That is a straightforward hatchet job, totally devoid of any truth. Not surprising, considering that it is the Express. Cannot wait for the Daily Mail’s version. ‘Porteous Disrespects Queen With Blatant Dive’.
Brilliant!!

[Pedantic_Hibee]

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/sport/football/lee-johnson-accused-encouraging-hibs-28033983

A pretty unbelievable take on the events there.

I’ll have a schooner of that man’s tears, please.

Hibs should just post a picture of a Nelson Muntz “Ha Ha” across their socials and then sign off for the day.

I’ve not bought a tabloid since the Brown/Thomson saga and I’m not about to start now. I hope they continue to pile on us and pish their frillies in anger at everything we do. In response, I’d simply like us to keep winning games and calling out sectarianism at every single opportunity and asking why the msm are too scared to talk about it.

[Sergio sledge]

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/sport/football/lee-johnson-accused-encouraging-hibs-28033983

A pretty unbelievable take on the events there.

If ever there was a case of "shock jock" type podcasting that is it. A deliberate misrepresentation of what LJ has said in order to get listeners.

We all know what LJ meant, he was clearly responding to the narrative that we had been lucky to play against 10 men a lot this season and suggested that rather than us being lucky it was a case of our good play and pressure on the opposition which was leading to the other teams getting red cards.

Not encouraging cheating as these guys suggest.

Seem to remember them having a go at Porteous before, perhaps for celebrating the red card against Motherwell last season.

[matty_f]

The good play that LJ was referring to was the way the corner was forced, the corner itself and the run Porto made.

Astonishing to think these clowns thought he was referring to the way the pen was won.

:agree: start to see how/why we get the decisions against us that we do, when you see the level of intellect we’re dealing with.

Absolutely absurd take on things.

[hibsbollah]

I’ll have a schooner of that man’s tears, please.

Hibs should just post a picture of a Nelson Muntz “Ha Ha” across their socials and then sign off for the day.

I’ve not bought a tabloid since the Brown/Thomson saga and I’m not about to start now. I hope they continue to pile on us and pish their frillies in anger at everything we do. In response, I’d simply like us to keep winning games and calling out sectarianism at every single opportunity and asking why the msm are too scared to talk about it.

I would absolutely love that to happen.

[dangermouse]

Find the Specsavers comments quite funny yet the ones that really need to go the most are the Ref , linesmen , fourth officials .McCrories handball was as clear as day to see yet they all missed it .Imo you will not get a clearer handball penalty all season .Make a great Add on the telly for Specsavers too:greengrin

To be fair on the fourth official, he spent most of the 90 minutes telling Goodwin to stay in his technical area :greengrin

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

SFA need to nip this in the bud by hauling Goodwin in.

Blatant case of bringing the game into disrepute. Surely they’re not going to ignore it?

[Jones28]

Steve Conroy was as **** a referee as he is a podcaster.

[Mick O'Rourke]

If ever there was a case of "shock jock" type podcasting that is it. A deliberate misrepresentation of what LJ has said in order to get listeners.

We all know what LJ meant, he was clearly responding to the narrative that we had been lucky to play against 10 men a lot this season and suggested that rather than us being lucky it was a case of our good play and pressure on the opposition which was leading to the other teams getting red cards.

Not encouraging cheating as these guys suggest.

Seem to remember them having a go at Porteous before, perhaps for celebrating the red card against Motherwell last season.

Our very own Tucker Carlsons of the sports podcasts. Lying bees.
Unbelievable misrepresentation/spin of the penalty incident and LJ's post match comments.
Those two would be best ignored, but sadly, some will listen and believe.
The Scottish Daily Express,whatever its circulation, has given them hooseroom unfortunately.

[Paulie Walnuts]

:faf:

[degenerated]

I’ll have a schooner of that man’s tears, please.

Hibs should just post a picture of a Nelson Muntz “Ha Ha” across their socials and then sign off for the day.

I’ve not bought a tabloid since the Brown/Thomson saga and I’m not about to start now. I hope they continue to pile on us and pish their frillies in anger at everything we do. In response, I’d simply like us to keep winning games and calling out sectarianism at every single opportunity and asking why the msm are too scared to talk about it.I'd go further, I think we should demand satisfaction like that time homer got the duelling glove :greengrin

[Jones28]

Our very own Tucker Carlsons of the sports podcasts. Lying bees.
Unbelievable misrepresentation/spin of the penalty incident and LJ's post match comments.
Those two would be best ignored, but sadly, some will listen and believe.
The Scottish Daily Express,whatever its circulation, has given them hooseroom unfortunately.

They shouldn’t be ignored, they should be called out for the absolute bull**** they’re spouting. I’m so sick of fake news bollocks like this, deliberately trying to stir up controversy for clicks. **** them.

[hibees 7062]

To be fair on the fourth official, he spent most of the 90 minutes telling Goodwin to stay in his technical area :greengrin

Not to mention getting pushed about by Hayes

[WhileTheChief..]

As a general point, the SFA wont be pulling LJ up for anything, he said and did nothing wrong - that pair are just saying something to make a few quid - best ignored.

These stories wouldnt be appearing if we were not winning matches, or scoring late goals, grinding out wins that Maloney and Ross would nto have got.

I noticed the other day that we were almost top of the table for fouls committed, but have not suffered a huge upsurge in cards.

I think that LJ has, indeed, made us more streetwise - and more power to him for that, we have been soft on the park for too long.

If it makes these idiots rage in the press or online articles that nobody really reads, then its working as far as I can tell.

:top marks

[Heisenberg]

So Colak dives at ER and is praised for clever play and Rocky is derided for “giving the ref a decision to make”. The difference in reporting on these two incidents is so transparent.

[Carheenlea]

They shouldn’t be ignored, they should be called out for the absolute bull**** they’re spouting. I’m so sick of fake news bollocks like this, deliberately trying to stir up controversy for clicks. **** them.

Definitely can’t be ignored or the narrative will simply be allowed to fester.

Daily Express should be banned from Easter Road with immediate effect to start ball rolling for stirring the pot with that utter drivel, and a meeting with club lawyers to discuss and advise what options are available to the club to defend ourselves, and particularly Ryan Porteous and his reputation in the strongest possible terms.

With few, if any friends in the media it’s time for the club to stick up for ourselves. Nobody else is going to be doing so on our behalf.
Things are entering into very uncomfortable and concerning territory.

[B.H.F.C]

The take from those referees is a joke. That’s not about giving a proper view, it’s about getting likes. It’s clickbait stuff.

[Donegal Hibby]

Can't believe some of the things that's getting said and printed , Absolutely scandalous and so out off order what's going on. Total witch hunt against Porto,Johnson and Hibernian football .I'd BAN any journalists or pundits from Easter road involved in this. Need to come out fighting on this one Goodwin and keeper first. Think we will too Maybe keeping our powder dry for now

[Since452]

The more we batter teams the more they'll come out with things like Goodwin did. Aberdeen had their ***** handed to them on Saturday. Goodwins frustrations came out in the wrong way. That's for him and his club to sort out. Happy with us just going about our business.

[Donegal Hibby]

Anyone see the article In the " Press and Journal" by ex Dons player Duncan shearer?

[basehibby]

Yep, you can argue either way

Its certainly not a dive though

Interestingly the difference in narrative over this and the Colak penalty for rangers

I'm not sure ours was a penalty but Rockys fleeting touch on Colak certainly would not have caused his legs to collapse

I don't remember anyone in the media or that mentioning the wold dive

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V good comparison. Rocky had his hands around Colak - just as Scales had his arms around Porto. The difference in reaction is astounding.

[Billy Whizz]

Makes for a tasty game at Pittodrie on Friday 4th November, that’s if Goodwin is still their Manager by then

Pretty sneaky if him if he’s talking to refs about our players, before the game

[grunt]

Anyone see the article In the " Press and Journal" by ex Dons player Duncan shearer?

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/aberdeen-fc/4810594/duncan-shearer-aberdeen-boss-jim-goodwin-has-every-right-to-be-raging-at-hibs-penalty-call/


Duncan Shearer: Aberdeen boss Jim Goodwin has every right to be raging at Hibs penalty call




Liam Scales marked Porteous tightly as the corner was delivered. From there, Porteous pulled the Aberdeen player’s jersey before wrapping his arms around Scales’ neck and falling to the ground.

[where'stheslope]

Makes for a tasty game at Pittodrie on Friday 4th November, that’s if Goodwin is still their Manager by then

Pretty sneaky if him if he’s talking to refs about our players, before the game
The Old Firm managers have done this for years by calling for protection for their top players!
It always seems to be when there is some pressure from certain teams, it comes out in the press and media, "Our players need protection from the ref!"

[overdrive]

Makes for a tasty game at Pittodrie on Friday 4th November, that’s if Goodwin is still their Manager by then

Pretty sneaky if him if he’s talking to refs about our players, before the game

If he insists on sticking with that keeper, I can't see him lasting. Especially when they have a perfectly decent keeper in Lewis on the bench

[Lago]

Goodwin has achieved what he set out to do, deflect from the fact Hibs from the point they lost the goal were the better team and undoubtedly would have gone on to win. He has created a media storm around Ryan Porteous which resulted in zero criticism of his team or his coaching.
Perhaps Hibs through our owner Ron Gordon should be issuing a statement condemning Goodwin and the media for the witch hunt they have created.

[Donegal Hibby]

The more we batter teams the more they'll come out with things like Goodwin did. Aberdeen had their ***** handed to them on Saturday. Goodwins frustrations came out in the wrong way. That's for him and his club to sort out. Happy with us just going about our business.
I'd normally agree with last part of your post but not this time .we simply can't carry on about our business while another manager comes out with nasty scandalous lies about one of our players which has got worse to the fact the manager and club are getting it too.Its not for Goodwin and Aberdeen to sort out either .It's our place to put this right as we as a club are getting wrongly accused of things. What happens in future games if Porto has genuine penalty claim , you not think this nonsense would leave a wee seed of doubt in another Refs mind?Also we have battered teams before and rivel managers have came out an conducted themselves with a bit of DIGNITY .not a word I think jim Goodwin knows

[Kavinho]

Goodwin's team is ropey, when he's spent a lot of money and brought in a lot of players.

The dons fans are certainly out in the juryroom just now.

He needs to deflect because their tactics were awful all game, and (much like Mikey Stewart's comments about us), you can't really determine what their identity is yet

All be it, we hadnt really properly tested their keeper much in the first half, and they 'could' argue they were relatively comfortable sitting in at the point of the penalty (Id disagree).

If they continue to underperform, Goodwin won't last much longer.
Their forums are already comparing him to the disaster that was Glass's reign.


Porteous is an easy target, and with his history v Rangers, the papers jump on every opportunity they can.

Truth is, most teams would love him in their side.

[Libby Hibby]

Goodwin's team is ropey, when he's spent a lot of money and brought in a lot of players.

The dons fans are certainly out in the juryroom just now.

He needs to deflect because their tactics were awful all game, and (much like Mikey Stewart's comments about us), you can't really determine what their identity is yet

All be it, we hadnt really properly tested their keeper much in the first half, and they 'could' argue they were relatively comfortable sitting in at the point of the penalty (Id disagree).

If they continue to underperform, Goodwin won't last much longer.
Their forums are already comparing him to the disaster that was Glass's reign.


Porteous is an easy target, and with his history v Rangers, the papers jump on every opportunity they can.

Truth is, most teams would love him in their side.

Truth is, every single club in our league would love Porteous in their side. In fact he’d walk into every starting 11 imo.

[Donegal Hibby]

Goodwin's team is ropey, when he's spent a lot of money and brought in a lot of players.

The dons fans are certainly out in the juryroom just now.

He needs to deflect because their tactics were awful all game, and (much like Mikey Stewart's comments about us), you can't really determine what their identity is yet

All be it, we hadnt really properly tested their keeper much in the first half, and they 'could' argue they were relatively comfortable sitting in at the point of the penalty (Id disagree).

If they continue to underperform, Goodwin won't last much longer.
Their forums are already comparing him to the disaster that was Glass's reign.


Porteous is an easy target, and with his history v Rangers, the papers jump on every opportunity they can.

Truth is, most teams would love him in their side.
Aberdeen's team being ropey and he's spent a lot of money ? Is so true even in first half 11 v 11 we had ten shots to there two I think it was and let's be honest we were much the better team . 2nd yellow and penalty was correct call imo ,actually thought scale could have walked for Campbell's tackle. Between one Campbell should have cut back to Mykolo and a few other chances and two stonewall penalty claims it should have been much worse scoreline wise for Goodwin.

[Donegal Hibby]

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/aberdeen-fc/4810594/duncan-shearer-aberdeen-boss-jim-goodwin-has-every-right-to-be-raging-at-hibs-penalty-call/
Jim Goodwin may have Overstepped the mark:agree:

[bingo70]

https://twitter.com/scotlandsky/status/1572190083339485185?s=46&t=eIAt3tzLAF4ecM4i0ls5Jg

Interestingly Dermot Gallagher doesn’t seem to have an issue with the penalty and red card although i do appreciate he was pretty non committal there.

[3pm]

https://twitter.com/scotlandsky/status/1572190083339485185?s=46&t=eIAt3tzLAF4ecM4i0ls5Jg

Interestingly Dermot Gallagher doesn’t seem to have an issue with the penalty and red card although i do appreciate he was pretty non committal there.


Go on yerself Dermot.

[Kavinho]

Aberdeen's team being ropey and he's spent a lot of money ? Is so true even in first half 11 v 11 we had ten shots to there two I think it was and let's be honest we were much the better team . 2nd yellow and penalty was correct call imo ,actually thought scale could have walked for Campbell's tackle. Between one Campbell should have cut back to Mykolo and a few other chances and two stonewall penalty claims it should have been much worse scoreline wise for Goodwin.


Absolutely.
I said they could arguably claim to be comfortable as we hadnt really tested Roos, but that's something I wouldn't personally accept. We were better all game.
I'm saying the squad he's gotten together have yet to show themselves any consistency, and if it doesn't improve, he won't last long.

[500miles]

https://twitter.com/scotlandsky/status/1572190083339485185?s=46&t=eIAt3tzLAF4ecM4i0ls5Jg

Interestingly Dermot Gallagher doesn’t seem to have an issue with the penalty and red card although i do appreciate he was pretty non committal there.

Dermot Gallagher makes his decisions based on what gets most clicks. Luckily, it means he's actually right this time.

[Jones28]

https://twitter.com/scotlandsky/status/1572190083339485185?s=46&t=eIAt3tzLAF4ecM4i0ls5Jg

Interestingly Dermot Gallagher doesn’t seem to have an issue with the penalty and red card although i do appreciate he was pretty non committal there.

He calls it pretty black and white IMO, VAR would have given the penalty for the handball, and MAYBE would have pulled up Porteous for the second penalty but he doesn't say it isn't a red card and penalty.

Put it another way, would VAR have suggested the penalty be reversed and Porteous booked for diving as has been alleged? Absolutely no ****ing way they would.

[NC1875]

I’ve watched that clip a few times and have managed to screenshot it.

Scales has 2 arms round Porteous, porteous then puts his arm round the back of Scales and they fall to the ground.

It’s as clear a penalty as you’ll see.

[Sioux]

He calls it pretty black and white IMO, VAR would have given the penalty for the handball, and MAYBE would have pulled up Porteous for the second penalty but he doesn't say it isn't a red card and penalty.

Put it another way, would VAR have suggested the penalty be reversed and Porteous booked for diving as has been alleged? Absolutely no ****ing way they would.

His second offence was not a red card offence. It was yellow! Correct decision. Gallagher didn't need to comment on a red card, because it wasn't a red card offence.

[MWHIBBIES]

I’ve watched that clip a few times and have managed to screenshot it.

Scales has 2 arms round Porteous, porteous then puts his arm round the back of Scales and they fall to the ground.

It’s as clear a penalty as you’ll see.

Yep. Do not get the outrage at all. Stonewaller

[fordie2]

I’ve watched that clip a few times and have managed to screenshot it.

Scales has 2 arms round Porteous, porteous then puts his arm round the back of Scales and they fall to the ground.

It’s as clear a penalty as you’ll see.

Where is Porteous arm supposed to go when Scales arm is right up his back? I actually can't believe the controversy here considering the Colak penalty was roundly described as a stonewaller by the media!

[Fanforlife]

I see the throbbers on keekback are now not only having a pop at Porteous and have decided to go with the misconstrued version of the gaffer s statement regarding our good clever play is resulting in opponents being sent off,nothing to do with them deserving to be sent off though just grasping at the straw thrown to them by original statement deliberately being misunderstood oh and Boyle is still the biggest diver in Scottish Football, strange one this as to my mind Boyle has had no penalties awarded this season,may be wrong on that one though.

[Since452]

I see the throbbers on keekback are now not only having a pop at Porteous and have decided to go with the misconstrued version of the gaffer s statement regarding our good clever play is resulting in opponents being sent off,nothing to do with them deserving to be sent off though just grasping at the straw thrown to them by original statement deliberately being misunderstood oh and Boyle is still the biggest diver in Scottish Football, strange one this as to my mind Boyle has had no penalties awarded this season,may be wrong on that one though.

Them talking about us in that way tells me they are worried.

[Donegal Hibby]

The Press and Journal again Headline is" Willie miller Right or wrong Jim Goodwin should have bit his tongue on porto situation " Can't get article subscribers only.

[Donegal Hibby]

The Press and Journal again Headline is" Willie miller Right or wrong Jim Goodwin should have bit his tongue on porto situation "Can't get article for subscribers only.

[gbhibby]

Question if Ryan plays against Ukraine and gets a penalty for Scotland for the same incident will there be a public outcry etc? Me thinks not.

[Paulie Walnuts]

He calls it pretty black and white IMO, VAR would have given the penalty for the handball, and MAYBE would have pulled up Porteous for the second penalty but he doesn't say it isn't a red card and penalty.

Put it another way, would VAR have suggested the penalty be reversed and Porteous booked for diving as has been alleged? Absolutely no ****ing way they would.

Yeah.

I think it’s a pen. But I also don’t think it’s a stonewaller.

The idea that the decision should not have been given but on top of that it should have been a booking for Porteous for diving and Johnson should be punished for encouraging his players to dive when he’s done no such thing is hilarious.

[Liam978]

Yeah.

I think it’s a pen. But I also don’t think it’s a stonewaller.

The idea that the decision should not have been given but on top of that it should have been a booking for Porteous for diving and Johnson should be punished for encouraging his players to dive when he’s done no such thing is hilarious.

Totally agree, and if Porto was the cheat he is being portrayed to be, then surely he would have gone down at the previous penalty incident. Not only did Scales play th ball with his left hand but he clouted Ryan twice on the back of the head with his right.

[CockneyRebel]

Totally agree, and if Porto was the cheat he is being portrayed to be, then surely he would have gone down at the previous penalty incident. Not only did Scales play th ball with his left hand but he clouted Ryan twice on the back of the head with his right.


That was McCrorie surely?

[poolman]

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/aberdeen-fc/4810594/duncan-shearer-aberdeen-boss-jim-goodwin-has-every-right-to-be-raging-at-hibs-penalty-call/



They keep wheeling out all these ex Sheep numpties knowing full well what their take on it will be

[Kato]

None of these experts seem to know about the law regarding obstruction.

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[Liam978]

That was McCrorie surely?

Whoever , same theory he defo had a red shirt on.

[hibsbollah]

That was McCrorie surely?

I think you’ll find one sheep looks very much like another.

[Smartie]

For a truly independent view of the incident, I’d like to hear from either Pat Stanton or Derek Riordan.

[Lago]

:greengrin
For a truly independent view of the incident, I’d like to hear from either Pat Stanton or Derek Riordan.

[CockneyRebel]

I think you’ll find one sheep looks very much like another.


Only when your very drunk.

[brog]

Jim Goodwin may have Overstepped the mark:agree:

Duncan Shearer thinks McCrorie headed the ball down for our 3rd. I think we can safely ignore his comments!

[GordonHFC]

Duncan Sheared thinks McCrorie headed the ball down for our 3rd. I think we can safely ignore his comments!

Well they are mutants after all. Head at the end of his wrist 🐑

[OldEast]

Only when your very drunk.

If you're sober can you tell the pretty ones from the ugly ones?

Asking for a friend

[HoboHarry]

If you're sober can you tell the pretty ones from the ugly ones?

Asking for a friend
Maybe the old saying about all cats being grey when it's dark applies.....

[Sioux]

Duncan Sheared thinks McCrorie headed the ball down for our 3rd. I think we can safely ignore his comments!

He didn't?

[CockneyRebel]

If you're sober can you tell the pretty ones from the ugly ones?

Asking for a friend


Yes - according to a friend. :greengrin

[matty_f]

He didn't?

I thought he did as well

[Scorrie]

So now we are winding up Goodwin, Sheep FC, Daily Express and the Yams on keechbag. Sounds like a good week’s work. Anyway, it was the refs call, he saw the Porto scales event and called it. If Goodwin has a problem, call the ref out. But he’d get a fine for tat I suppose. Cowardly

[007]

The Press and Journal again Headline is" Willie miller Right or wrong Jim Goodwin should have bit his tongue on porto situation " Can't get article subscribers only.

IIRC on the radio his take on it was quite sensible. It's after the Goodwin interview.

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?359302-Goodwin&p=7103954&viewfull=1#post7103954

[MKHIBEE]

I thought he did as well

I thought he was heading it back to the keeper

[B.H.F.C]

I thought he was heading it back to the keeper

Thought from the initial angle it was McCrorie that headed it. But seeing it from the pitch side angle behind the goals that Hibs put up, I think it’s the big Ukrainian that heads it.

[A Hi-Bee]

Lets keep this thread on track, badloss is a dick head who could if left alone be dangerous, so Hibs need to stamp on him and not let him away wi this crap that he alone started. The rest just jump on the bandwagon as it sells papers or gets some 2 min headlines.
I do however happen to think it was a great knockdown from the Hibs man, as it was way to accurate for it to have been the sheep defender, to Campbell for his second goal.

badloss is a phanney, he wears a phanneys hat, you all know the rest.

:flag::flag::flag:

[degenerated]

I thought he did as wellI thought so too but if you watch the clubs all access video on YouTube it shows it from East stand side and it's not quite as clear.

https://youtu.be/jpaV5lnwmbE

[Donegal Hibby]

IIRC on the radio his take on it was quite sensible. It's after the Goodwin interview.

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?359302-Goodwin&p=7103954&viewfull=1#post7103954
Thanks. He didn't half talk up how well his team were playing . Thought it funny when he said he was sorry for his supporters , I thought they were Aberdeen fans not the Jim Goodwin fan club :crazy:

[basehibby]

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/sport/football/lee-johnson-accused-encouraging-hibs-28033983

A pretty unbelievable take on the events there.

That is incredible - did these idiots not notice the free kick won from good play - leading to a corner won by good play - leading to a penalty won by a player attempting to attack the ball? These things ALL constitute good play - something which the dour time wasting sheep could not manage for 90% of the match. These gormless fuds are worthy of ridicule. No wonder Scottish refs are so poor if these air headed muppets are typical of the breed!

[HoboHarry]

That is incredible - did these idiots not notice the free kick won from good play - leading to a corner won by good play - leading to a penalty won by a player attempting to attack the ball? These things ALL constitute good play - something which the dour time wasting sheep could not manage for 90% of the match. These gormless fuds are worthy of ridicule. No wonder Scottish refs are so poor if these air headed muppets are typical of the breed!
Think more blame probably lies with the journalists - there's no interest in publishing objective opinion, only producing click bait. It will still come as a surprise to them when the newspapers finally shut their doors though as they won't understand why...

[Donegal Hibby]

That is incredible - did these idiots not notice the free kick won from good play - leading to a corner won by good play - leading to a penalty won by a player attempting to attack the ball? These things ALL constitute good play - something which the dour time wasting sheep could not manage for 90% of the match. These gormless fuds are worthy of ridicule. No wonder Scottish refs are so poor if these air headed muppets are typical of the breed!
The two ex Refs that want Johnson investigated by SFA , I take it there from Aberdeen are they?

[HH81]

Let's stop giving this clown airtime.

[HoboHarry]

Let's stop giving this clown airtime.
That's where I am at - he seems to have got under the skin of a great many when it was just deflection from a s***e manager in charge of a s***e team. Failing managers have done this for decades....

[basehibby]

The two ex Refs that want Johnson investigated by SFA , I take it there from Aberdeen are they?

These two prize dolts need their cognitive functions investigated. Their comments go beyond the realm of misunderstanding far far into outright stupidity.

[Broken Gnome]

I cannot think of a single occurrence where two players grappling to the point that neither can help going to be ground has provoked such histrionics.

I wasn't there on Saturday, but anyone at 3.45pm foresee Hibs as a club being accused of systematic cheating?

[leith lynx]

I thought he did as well

Definitely Kuharevich who headed the ball down, I was right behind it in the FF upper.

[bigwheel]

Definitely Kuharevich who headed the ball down, I was right behind it in the FF upper.

Yep. Was a great assist actually….

[brog]

He didn't?

It was widely reported as big Mikey and TBH it never crossed my mind that it wasn't. If it was McCrorie then he didn't react accordingly.

[Jim Herriot]

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[Donegal Hibby]

These two prize dolts need their cognitive functions investigated. Their comments go beyond the realm of misunderstanding far far into outright stupidity.
Agree totally . Though is it far far into outright stupidity or is it something more deeper than that . It's why I wondered were 2 Refs were from. Really think club need to come out with a statement and fight this . Take it to the highest level we can. If we don't it will be open season on us in the future.As for media any involved in this disgraceful carry on BAN them from Easter road for foreseeable future

[CockneyRebel]

I thought so too but if you watch the clubs all access video on YouTube it shows it from East stand side and it's not quite as clear.

https://youtu.be/jpaV5lnwmbE

I just watched that video and Mykola definitely knocked that ball down for our 3rd goal. Definitely. Before watching that I was swithering a bit from watching other angles.

[Donegal Hibby]

A few articles in papers of updates on McGeady and Nisbet . Also some story about Goodwin getting criticism in Scotland for calling Porto a cheat .

[CallumLaidlaw]

So has he got away with this then?


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[gbhibby]

26194
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[Aldo]

So has he got away with this then?


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Looks like he has Callum. As Jim has mentioned on another thread it looks like the standard has now been set by the powers that be!

Poor show though and will wait until we criticise a player/team and see where we go from there


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[Carheenlea]

Looks like he has Callum. As Jim has mentioned on another thread it looks like the standard has now been set by the powers that be!

Poor show though and will wait until we criticise a player/team and see where we go from there


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Can only hope that the club are maybe waiting till after the Scotland game tonight before making any retaliation.
Same for the SFA/SPFL if they are to take action against Goodwin.

It’s looking more likely though that they are just going to let this just pass, in which case the club would be shirking it’s responsibilities to defend one our players against slanderous accusation from another manger.
The narrative and witch-hunt against Porteous would also just continue to manifest.

[Aldo]

Can only hope that the club are maybe waiting till after the Scotland game tonight before making any retaliation.
Same for the SFA/SPFL if they are to take action against Goodwin.

It’s looking more likely though that they are just going to let this just pass, in which case the club would be shirking it’s responsibilities to defend one our players against slanderous accusation from another manger.
The narrative and witch-hunt against Porteous would also just continue to manifest.

A well worded statement from the club regarding this wouldn’t go a miss.

Looks like they’ve chooses to let this move forward as it is and can guarantee this is only happening as it’s Hibs involved. Yes I’m being paranoid but the lack of statement and silence from the powers that be are fuelling this fire!


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[plhibs]

Paul McGinn was suspended for saying something about a referee, but it seems like it's okay for people to do the same, as long as it's against Hibs.

[hibees 7062]

Can the sheep appeal the red card and if they can why haven’t they?

[ChilliEater]

Can the sheep appeal the red card and if they can why haven’t they?

I think you can only appeal a straight red, not 2 yellows.

[Gmack7]

We really have to make our feelings crystal clear on his comments about Ryan and also his chat with the ref about Ryan before the game.
An email to Aberdeen is no where near enough, we have to publicly defend our player against this total moron

[brog]

On reflection I think it's best just to leave it now. We've spoken to Aberdeen and I would guess there have been other private conversations. A public complaint just keeps the flames alive and suits the rags.

[Ryan91]

On reflection I think it's best just to leave it now. We've spoken to Aberdeen and I would guess there have been other private conversations. A public complaint just keeps the flames alive and suits the rags.

Not airing this in public is, at least in my opinion, is saying that it's ok for other team's managers to publicly attack and slander Porteous. It only helps to further the negative perception that people have of him as a dirty player and now as a cheat.

[hibees 7062]

I think you can only appeal a straight red, not 2 yellows.

Thanks

[Paulie Walnuts]

Not airing this in public is, at least in my opinion, is saying that it's ok for other team's managers to publicly attack and slander Porteous. It only helps to further the negative perception that people have of him as a dirty player and now as a cheat.

Agree.

This shouldn’t have been left to fester without a response from Hibs. Whilst we may have discussed it with Aberdeen privately, Goodwins comments were public and everyone that watches football in Scotland has now seen them, including current referees and players.

Our response absolutely should have been public imo. As it stands, it’s Aberdeen who have controlled the narrative here about our player being a cheat.

Really poor from Hibs and it’s probably at the point now where we’ve left it to go on for so long that a public response now would be pointless.

[green day]

On reflection I think it's best just to leave it now. We've spoken to Aberdeen and I would guess there have been other private conversations. A public complaint just keeps the flames alive and suits the rags.

Yep

Despite what some people think of him, Kensell is not afraid of taking on the SPFL / SFA (see LC cup final tickets).

Hibs will have spoken to the SFA about this, and they wont be saying anything until / unless they get a response.

Also, as a slight complication, its International week, Porteous is in the squad and Steve Clarke has already given him his support - Hibs wont say anything until the intnl break is finished, imo.

FWIW, I think we will have acted, and we just need to wait and see the outcome - I suspect that if the SFA dont slap down Goodwin that this will be a big issue in Lee Johnsons next set of Press calls.

[mjhibby]

Will be very intetesting to see if anybody ever impunes an old firm player or team. I think we know the answer. Gerrard showed himself to be a classless prick and goodwin has shown his true colours. Its not worked on the dons fans who the nonsense was aimed at deflecting just how poor they were. It could easily have been 5 or 6. They are on goodwins case now. Possibly the worst aberdeen team for a long time. Goodwin has won 3 league games with the opposition one man down. What goes around comes around.

[mjhibby]

Not airing this in public is, at least in my opinion, is saying that it's ok for other team's managers to publicly attack and slander Porteous. It only helps to further the negative perception that people have of him as a dirty player and now as a cheat.

On the flip side refs will be wary of sending porto off due to not wanting to be scrutinised. All this nonsense is due to the fact that porto stands his ground and is a damned good defender.

[Since452]

On reflection I think it's best just to leave it now. We've spoken to Aberdeen and I would guess there have been other private conversations. A public complaint just keeps the flames alive and suits the rags.

Have we spoken to Aberdeen?

[overdrive]

Not airing this in public is, at least in my opinion, is saying that it's ok for other team's managers to publicly attack and slander Porteous. It only helps to further the negative perception that people have of him as a dirty player and now as a cheat.

I can just about understand the accusations of him being a dirty player given the high profile red cards he's had (I don't agree) but I simply don't understand the cheat claims. He's hardly Peter Pawlett trying out for the Olympic diving squad.

Even a few Rangers fans I've spoken to recently who dislike him have said they wouldn't say he's a cheat.

[brog]

Have we spoken to Aberdeen?

The EEN reported we had..

[Hibs90]

Goodwin charged by SFA

[Donegal Hibby]

Goodwin charged by SFA
Were are you seeing this from?

[SteveHFC]

Were are you seeing this from?

Daily record

[A Hi-Bee]

Goodwin charged by SFA

That will be a right "good one" he can stand in the corridor alongside Laughatme when they both get the book thrown at them.
Fuds united.

[04Sauzee]

Were are you seeing this from?

BREAKING! Jim Goodwin charged as Aberdeen boss faces SFA punishment over Ryan Porteous 'cheat' comment

bit.ly/3LwFlQB

[JGS56]

Were are you seeing this from?

On the official SFA website.

Scottish Football Disciplinary Updates | Scottish FA (https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish-fa/football-governance/disciplinary/disciplinary-updates/)

[Spike Mandela]

On the official SFA website.

Scottish Football Disciplinary Updates | Scottish FA (https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish-fa/football-governance/disciplinary/disciplinary-updates/)

Hope they throw the book at the clown.

[Donegal Hibby]

Thanks guys .Really happy about this . Hope he's given the maximum punishment they can give to him. :aok:

[Mick O'Rourke]

Events at start of week likely delayed this statement from the SFA.
Is it the case that Goodwin could have been charged without a Hibs "complaint", if there was one?

Am sure Ryan would have been pleased that Steve Clarke publicly supported him and he went further than the goodwin comment in saying Ryan has been unfairly targetted in the media.
Maybe Hibs and Ryan knew this charge against goodwin was imminent
It begs the question though. Had goodwin not been cited for his accusations ,could that have swung Ryan to move on?
Well i hope now he extends his contract.

GGTTH

[SonOfDavidFrancey]

Shouldn’t they be charging the goalie too - he gave a DR interview to the same effect

[Jim44]

Thanks guys .Really happy about this . Hope he's given the maximum punishment they can give to him. :aok:

I’m pleased that he is being carpeted but, at the end of the day, what’s the betting he gets a reprimand and a suspended fine.

[Argylehibby]

Shouldn’t they be charging the goalie too - he gave a DR interview to the same effect

100%. Should be.

[Mick O'Rourke]

I’m pleased that he is being carpeted but, at the end of the day, what’s the betting he gets a reprimand and a suspended fine.

Indeed,Jim
But remember some were thinking this week that the SFA were not going to pull goodwin up for his comments.
That would have been more worrying,than any action now pending .

Seems the funeral and now the International break has held this up till next month,along with others.

[Oscar T Grouch]

So he is getting charged with two offences, making the cheat comments (offensive statements) on RedTV and bring the game into disrepute. The rule 77 could also be used due to his statement about the referee being duped by Porto too. Could get a heavy fine and ban if all three are found to be true (which they are). might actually do the dons some good to not have him in the dugout :greengrin

[Golden Bear]

Delighted with this news. I don't know about anyone else but Goodwin certainly succeeded in winding me up.

[Tyler Durden]

Aberdeen fans do seem to have fallen for this cr@p. Twitter is full of "Goodwin was right - he is a cheat!" nonsense. I'd have expected a bit more self awareness and realism from their fans having watched Lewis Ferguson and Beseuijen etc in recent years.

I think most of us accept that our players will dive or try to gain an advantage at times - it's part of the game. For a pro player or manager to moan about cheating :rolleyes:

[PatHead]

During the match last night a Scotland player was pushed in the back at a corner. Michael Stewart said he should have gone down and we might have got a penalty.
What is the difference between that and Porto.
Double standards.

[Kato]

During the match last night a Scotland player was pushed in the back at a corner. Michael Stewart said he should have gone down and we might have got a penalty.
What is the difference between that and Porto.
Double standards.The difference is in the editorial of the programme.

Hibs being professional = bad.

Anyone else being professional = good.



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[Mick O'Rourke]

Astonishing what he said after the game.
This guy is not the full shilling.
His defence could try for diminished responsibility or Insanity plea.
This is what he said......


“I don’t know how many times the boy Porteous can get away with that kind of stuff.
“We’re telling our players in midweek to be careful with him in the box.
Be careful with him at set-plays and don’t touch him as he will go over.

“I actually had a laugh and a joke with the referee prior to the game to make him aware of it.
Unfortunately, just before half-time he was sucked in hook, line and sinker.

“We showed our players a number of instances when Porteous has won penalties like that in the past.
People will say he’s good at it and he’s clever.

It’s blatant cheating as far as I’m concerned and it has cost my team points.

I told Porteous to his face after the game what i thought of him.
I dont care what he reads on Sunday or Monday.
He knows .He is laughing about it.
He celebrates winning penalty kicks like he's scored the winning goal.

End of Goodwin rantings!!
Mad as a brush!!

[HoboHarry]

Hope they appoint him to be Aberdeen manager for life as a punishment. A*******s are made for each other.

[Carheenlea]

Very pleased to see Goodwin charged on two counts, and hopefully he will face an appropriate punishment.

[007]

Their defence will be that Robbie Neilson never got punished when an Aberdeen player cheated.

https://twitter.com/BBCSportScot/status/1499355636861222916?t=RNiL2C53B1lnJgwNTIDyDQ&s=19

[Seveno]

When it comes to cheating, I would suggest the elbowing fellow professionals in the face and punching them is pretty high up on the despicable league.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/jim-goodwin--life-crimes-4730953

[portycabbage]

When it comes to cheating, I would suggest the elbowing fellow professionals in the face and punching them is pretty high up on the despicable league.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/jim-goodwin--life-crimes-4730953

I remember Goodwin getting two bookings at ER (both were stick on reds) one for elbowing Wotherspoon in the back of the head off the ball, which I saw from 30 yards away in the east. Goodwin then proceeded to play the victim in the press for the following week, at one point saying maybe Spoony was a nice guy off the park but not on it. He seemed to want to elbow the smallest opponent on the pitch every other week at the time.

[Mick O'Rourke]

When it comes to cheating, I would suggest the elbowing fellow professionals in the face and punching them is pretty high up on the despicable league.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/jim-goodwin--life-crimes-4730953

That is some rap sheet he had as a player.
....effin cheek o the man !

[Scotty Leither]

Looks like the two Ross County players are getting done as well, so may well miss the next game with ourselves for their reckless tackles on the Kilmarnock players.

Wonder if Mikey Stewart will paint that as "Hibs getting an advantage" before the game, and it's our fault they'll be missing? Seems to be the kind of cack-handed logic he's pursing these days. Fud.

[gbhibby]

Their defence will be that Robbie Neilson never got punished when an Aberdeen player cheated.

https://twitter.com/BBCSportScot/status/1499355636861222916?t=RNiL2C53B1lnJgwNTIDyDQ&s=19
I think Aberdeen will raise this in defence of what he said but with anything it is the actual words spoken. Getting sick of the trial by Sportscene and unqualified pundits making comments about referee's decisions.
At the end of the day it was a Goodwin against Aberdeen.

[Donegal Hibby]

I’m pleased that he is being carpeted but, at the end of the day, what’s the betting he gets a reprimand and a suspended fine.
It's a possibility I suppose that could happen .Though I'd like think SFA have discussed this matter and came to what I think would be the smart discision here .If we punish this scandalous carry on severely hopefully it will act as a deterrent to managers in the future to mind their behaviour and conduct themselves in the right way.If it goes the way of a reprimand and a suspended fine for me this will cause more of the same cause the same culprit will know they will get away with it again .Surely the SFA are smarter than that??:hmmm:

[davemcbain]

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I actually had a laugh and a joke with the referee prior to the game to make him aware of it.
Unfortunately, just before half-time he was sucked in hook, line and sinker.

It’s blatant cheating as far as I’m concerned and it has cost my team points.



These two quotes are what he should be done for - he has quite literally admitted that he tried to influence the referee prior to the game. That is blatant cheating (funnily enough the same crime he was accusing Porto of).

[Bridge hibs]

These two quotes are what he should be done for - he has quite literally admitted that he tried to influence the referee prior to the game. That is blatant cheating (funnily enough the same crime he was accusing Porto of).As well as trying to cover his tracks by saying he joked with the ref before the game about Porteous diving etc. Aye sure tae **** he was joking with the ref right enough ****ing erse 🤣

I wonder if the ref will be asked for his side of things with regards Goodwins ‘jokey’ comments

[green day]

Looks like the two Ross County players are getting done as well, so may well miss the next game with ourselves for their reckless tackles on the Kilmarnock players.

Wonder if Mikey Stewart will paint that as "Hibs getting an advantage" before the game, and it's our fault they'll be missing? Seems to be the kind of cack-handed logic he's pursing these days. Fud.

That was done in August, they got 2 matches and have served them.

[James70]

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/ryan-porteous-offered-ex-celtic-25086091

My goodness, even this pundit is lending his support!

[brog]

[QUOTE=Mick O'Rourke;7107921]
Astonishing what he said after the game.
This guy is not the full shilling.
His defence could try for diminished responsibility or Insanity plea.
This is what he said......


“I don’t know how many times the boy Porteous can get away with that kind of stuff.
“We’re telling our players in midweek to be careful with him in the box.
Be careful with him at set-plays and don’t touch him as he will go over.

“I actually had a laugh and a joke with the referee prior to the game to make him aware of it.
Unfortunately, just before half-time he was sucked in hook, line and sinker.

“We showed our players a number of instances when Porteous has won penalties like that in the past.
People will say he’s good at it and he’s clever.

It’s blatant cheating as far as I’m concerned and it has cost my team points.

I told Porteous to his face after the game what i thought of him.
I dont care what he reads on Sunday or Monday.
He knows .He is laughing about it.
He celebrates winning penalty kicks like he's scored the winning goal.

End of Goodwin rantings!!
Mad as a brush!!


I'd like to see that video that Goodwin showed his players. I suspect it was about the same length as a video about Gary Mackay's medals! :greengrin

[Since452]

Everyone is laughing at Goodwin

[Jim44]

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/ryan-porteous-offered-ex-celtic-25086091

My goodness, even this pundit is lending his support!

Good to get a pundit/ex-footballer’s support till you see who it is …….. generally regarded as a clown and lightweight pundit with dubious opinions, so I’d take this with a pinch of salt. It’s only a couple of weeks since he was defending Morelos’s sending off against us.

[Leith Green]

Jim Goodwin has succeeded in achieving complete deflection from what was a poor Aberdeen performance and an even worse display of his own managerial wisdom. His decision making during the game especially after the red card should have been what he was explaining to the media . You could be forgiven for mistaking him for a Hun , this kind of deflection is a trademark of theirs.. Maybe he will find a job at Rangers doing some public relations when he is sacked from the sheep.

[Donegal Hibby]

I have never liked Jim Goodwin always thought he was a arrogant character . Hibs v Aberdeen game ,We were much the better team statistics show this even 11 v11. Yet he whines about going down to ten men changed the game and how they would have got least a point even though they were poor and we were good also lashes out at Porto ,cheat ,conning claims .Reflecting on this I find it all rather Roy Keane like when he was a manager .When things are going badly wrong blame everyone else for it instead of looking at were the problem really is? Himself being a s***e manager.

[Scotty Leither]

That was done in August, they got 2 matches and have served them.

My bad. Thanks for the correction mate.

[Onion]

During the match last night a Scotland player was pushed in the back at a corner. Michael Stewart said he should have gone down and we might have got a penalty.
What is the difference between that and Porto.
Double standards.

And there is Goodwin's problem. The Porto incident is completely subjective - a matter of personal judgement. For him to categorically call Porto out for cheating is a real problem as there is no hard evidence of that. Just a matter of opinion.

MSM views of incidents are invariably coloured by teams involved and should be ignored. Goodwin is in trouble and will be rightly hammered for his comments which simply can't be explained away in the cold light of day. He's a tube and and a man under pressure. He can count himself lucky, the World Cup is coming up, so he might survive beyond Xmas.

[JimBHibees]

And there is Goodwin's problem. The Porto incident is completely subjective - a matter of personal judgement. For him to categorically call Porto out for cheating is a real problem as there is no hard evidence of that. Just a matter of opinion.

MSM views of incidents are invariably coloured by teams involved and should be ignored. Goodwin is in trouble and will be rightly hammered for his comments which simply can't be explained away in the cold light of day. He's a tube and and a man under pressure. He can count himself lucky, the World Cup is coming up, so he might survive beyond Xmas.

Only way he could categorically call anyone a cheat is if no contact and clear dive that absolutely didn't happen so he has made an idiot of himself

[GRA]

Seems to have forgotten the 2 stonewall penalties we should have got. Clear handball by McCrorie & diving onto the ball to stop Bojang in the last few minutes.

Doesn't suit the anti-Porto narrative tho eh! Glad he's being charged. He can't deflect from his managerial inadequacies every week. He'll get found out soon enough.

[Carheenlea]

He can't deflect from his managerial inadequacies every week. He'll get found out soon enough.

I’d say he already has. His attack on Porteous prevented any real media scrutiny into his abysmal attempt at organising his side to play with 10 men.

You’d assume all managers would have a system and shape in mind in the event of having a player red carded, but Goodwin looked like he hadn’t a clue how to adapt to it, and was so poor it looked like they were playing with 8 men rather than 10.

Surely the Aberdeen fans won’t have ignored that, and there must be some concerns about their fortunes with Goodwin at the helm.

Can you imagine how we would have reacted to such an abject performance and management tactics, or lack of?

[JimBHibees]

I’d say he already has. His attack on Porteous prevented any real media scrutiny into his abysmal attempt at organising his side to play with 10 men.

You’d assume all managers would have a system and shape in mind in the event of having a player red carded, but Goodwin looked like he hadn’t a clue how to adapt to it, and was so poor it looked like they were playing with 8 men rather than 10.

Surely the Aberdeen fans won’t have ignored that, and there must be some concerns about their fortunes with Goodwin at the helm.

Can you imagine how we would have reacted to such an abject performance and management tactics, or lack of?

Was his record last season not on a par with Maloney? Not sure his record this season is much better despite Willie Miller proclaiming how excited Aberdeen fans were before they got their ass handed to them on Saturday

[MWHIBBIES]

I’d say he already has. His attack on Porteous prevented any real media scrutiny into his abysmal attempt at organising his side to play with 10 men.

You’d assume all managers would have a system and shape in mind in the event of having a player red carded, but Goodwin looked like he hadn’t a clue how to adapt to it, and was so poor it looked like they were playing with 8 men rather than 10.

Surely the Aberdeen fans won’t have ignored that, and there must be some concerns about their fortunes with Goodwin at the helm.

Can you imagine how we would have reacted to such an abject performance and management tactics, or lack of?

As ridiculously as we normally do after a loss?

[Libby Hibby]

As ridiculously as we normally do after a loss?

😂😂

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Now that he's been called out by the beaks, hopefully the spotlight goes back onto him. Would be poetic justice,if he's asked at the end of every game, who he thinks has cheated during the 90 minutes.

[Jim44]

Now that he's been called out by the beaks, hopefully the spotlight goes back onto him. Would be poetic justice,if he's asked at the end of every game, who he thinks has cheated during the 90 minutes.

Nah, any idiot could identify cheaters after the game is finished. I’m sure Goodwin’s special talent of identifying them before the event would be of more value to our match officials. In fact, when he, shortly, gets the heave from Aberdeen, there could be a job in it for him ……… official SPFL preemptive ***** stirrer …….. it just rolls off the tongue.:greengrin

[nonshinyfinish]

Nah, any idiot could identify cheaters after the game is finished. I’m sure Goodwin’s special talent of identifying them before the event would be of more value to our match officials. In fact, when he, shortly, gets the heave from Aberdeen, there could be a job in it for him ……… official SPFL preemptive ***** stirrer …….. it just rolls off the tongue.:greengrin

This is a great idea – SPFL Department of Precrime.

https://i.ibb.co/fp9VDss/minority-report-victim-scales.gif

[He's here!]

[QUOTE=Mick O'Rourke;7107921]
Astonishing what he said after the game.
This guy is not the full shilling.
His defence could try for diminished responsibility or Insanity plea.
This is what he said......


“I don’t know how many times the boy Porteous can get away with that kind of stuff.
“We’re telling our players in midweek to be careful with him in the box.
Be careful with him at set-plays and don’t touch him as he will go over.

“I actually had a laugh and a joke with the referee prior to the game to make him aware of it.
Unfortunately, just before half-time he was sucked in hook, line and sinker.

“We showed our players a number of instances when Porteous has won penalties like that in the past.
People will say he’s good at it and he’s clever.

It’s blatant cheating as far as I’m concerned and it has cost my team points.

I told Porteous to his face after the game what i thought of him.
I dont care what he reads on Sunday or Monday.
He knows .He is laughing about it.
He celebrates winning penalty kicks like he's scored the winning goal.

End of Goodwin rantings!!
Mad as a brush!!


I'd like to see that video that Goodwin showed his players. I suspect it was about the same length as a video about Gary Mackay's medals! :greengrin








'Numerous incidents' where Ryan has won penalties through 'blatant cheating'? Really?

If anything Porteous is more sinned against than sinning ever since Gerrard put a target on his back with his 'the boy's not learning' comments.

[greenginger]

[QUOTE=brog;7107995]

'Numerous incidents' where Ryan has won penalties through 'blatant cheating'? Really?

If anything Porteous is more sinned against than sinning ever since Gerrard put a target on his back with his 'the boy's not learning' comments.

Has anyone asked Goodwin to name the matches where Ryan won penalties through cheating and maybe let us in on the video clips he showed to his players.

[brog]

I’d say he already has. His attack on Porteous prevented any real media scrutiny into his abysmal attempt at organising his side to play with 10 men.

You’d assume all managers would have a system and shape in mind in the event of having a player red carded, but Goodwin looked like he hadn’t a clue how to adapt to it, and was so poor it looked like they were playing with 8 men rather than 10.

Surely the Aberdeen fans won’t have ignored that, and there must be some concerns about their fortunes with Goodwin at the helm.

Can you imagine how we would have reacted to such an abject performance and management tactics, or lack of?


[QUOTE=He's here!;7108410]

Has anyone asked Goodwin to name the matches where Ryan won penalties through cheating and maybe let us in on the video clips he showed to his players.

Exactly right, I said same above but it merged into Mick' s comment. Probably the shortest video on record.

[Mick O'Rourke]

[QUOTE=greenginger;7108465]

Exactly right, I said same above but it merged into Mick' s comment. Probably the shortest video on record.


You could pick through his accusations one by one and ask him to back any of them up with proof .
He would be speechless(thats saying something)
Now i dont suppose the SFA hearing will be doing that.
But surely the evidence of his accusations(TV interview) will result in some sort of ban
Like not allowed to address refs before games.
Dug out ban and substantial monetary fine.
Or..

Maybe he will get his jotters soon.Aberdeen were awful.
His deliberate intervention to slander Ryan deflected from that fact and it went amiss with the controversy.
The international break gives him some space.
But as others have said,his team last week with 11 on the park were poor and his ability to deal with the situation in the second half with 10 even poorer.

No offence to those with mental health problems,and i dont mean this lightly,but Goodwins rant suggests he is not well in that regard,or the Aberdeen job is too much for him.
It is like he wanted something to happen with Ryan involved, his post match rant seemed very well prepared.

[A Hi-Bee]

One of the problems in my humble is in the fact that no matter how much of a slap across the wrist good win gets the damage is done. A wee bit like them retrospective red cards all done after the fact.
#hesafud

[Mick O'Rourke]

One of the problems in my humble is in the fact that no matter how much of a slap across the wrist good win gets the damage is done. A wee bit like them retrospective red cards all done after the fact.
#hesafud

Yes that is very annoying,if its cost the points/game.

On Goodwin,any other coach/manager witnessing his outburst on TV and know him,would have been red faced on his behalf .
Surely no other coach is going to jump on the Gerrard/Goodwin bandwagon to abuse and bully Ryan.
And it is abuse and bullying. People get sacked for less.

[Jones28]

One of the problems in my humble is in the fact that no matter how much of a slap across the wrist good win gets the damage is done. A wee bit like them retrospective red cards all done after the fact.
#hesafud

I think the damage was done a while ago tbh. I don't think he will ever be the darling of the media until he signs for Celtic or scores the winner for Scotland in a cup final.

What is quite nice for me is that Goodwin made the comments and to most folk looked nothing more than a sore loser, we still won the game and gave his team a hiding in the process AND he's now getting a doing for what he said.

Win win win.

[green day]

Caught about 5 minutes of Sportsound this pm, and Craig Levein suggested that Goodwin said what he did simply as something for his fans as "they would expect him to say something".

Willie Miller, who has been the only voice of reason over this said that - as he criticised Robbie Neilson who called Lewis Ferguson a cheat last season, Goodwin also should have said nothing, regardless of what he thought happened.

Miller also slagged off the Scales boy for being in the wrong place, and getting involved with Porteous even after apparently being briefed by their manager. Him and Levein were also laughing at the fact that the boy got himself involved just a few mins after his first red.

I didnt hear the whole segment, but they seem to think he will be hammered for what he said. Richard Gordon was the host, so obviously he was really unbiased too...........

I did think they let Goodwin off easily over it though, and gave absolutely no support to Hibs (Miller aside) or Porteous.

[H18 SFR]

[QUOTE=brog;7108475]

No offence to those with mental health problems,and i dont mean this lightly,but Goodwins rant suggests he is not well in that regard,or the Aberdeen job is too much for him.
It is like he wanted something to happen with Ryan involved, his post match rant seemed very well prepared.

I think Goodwin fancies himself as a master strategist.

[Aldo]

[QUOTE=Mick O'Rourke;7108512]

I think Goodwin fancies himself as a master strategist.

He’s a master alright but only of one thing……


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[HoboHarry]

[QUOTE=H18 SFR;7109934]

He’s a master alright but only of one thing……


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Well six things really - Miss Palm and her 5 daughters no?

[grunt]

I did think they let Goodwin off easily over it though, and gave absolutely no support to Hibs (Miller aside) or Porteous.
Agreed. It seemed to me that they all agreed that Porto had cheated, but that Goodwin was wrong to have mentioned it in his interview. It was a very annoying discussion.

[hibees 7062]

[QUOTE=H18 SFR;7109934]

He’s a master alright but only of one thing……


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Baiter ?

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Caught about 5 minutes of Sportsound this pm, and Craig Levein suggested that Goodwin said what he did simply as something for his fans as "they would expect him to say something".

Willie Miller, who has been the only voice of reason over this said that - as he criticised Robbie Neilson who called Lewis Ferguson a cheat last season, Goodwin also should have said nothing, regardless of what he thought happened.

Miller also slagged off the Scales boy for being in the wrong place, and getting involved with Porteous even after apparently being briefed by their manager. Him and Levein were also laughing at the fact that the boy got himself involved just a few mins after his first red.

I didnt hear the whole segment, but they seem to think he will be hammered for what he said. Richard Gordon was the host, so obviously he was really unbiased too...........

I did think they let Goodwin off easily over it though, and gave absolutely no support to Hibs (Miller aside) or Porteous.


is there some rule that clubs have to go though the league / SFA and not take legal action against each other?
if it can be proven to that cheating claims are false and Porto leaves and cites the hounding as a reason would be interesting to see if that sort of thing would stand up in court…

[Prof. Shaggy]

if it can be proven to that cheating claims are false

Is it not established that Porto didn't cheat? He's not been cited or offered a ban for anything, has he?

[WeeRussell]

Can’t really recall Porteous winning any other penalties off the top of my head, never mind cheating for numerous ones.

He has been bad for going down and rolling about plenty times.. but you don’t win penalties for that when it’s in your own half.

Would quite like to see wee Jim’s video.

[Donegal Hibby]

Anyone read the story by Sean Wallace in the press and journal titled ' The inconsistency of the SFA charging Jim Goodwin ' Can't get it myself though sounds like a journalist writing more rubbish:rolleyes:

[Saint Hibee]

Anyone read the story by Sean Wallace in the press and journal titled ' The inconsistency of the SFA charging Jim Goodwin ' Can't get it myself though sounds like a journalist writing more rubbish:rolleyes:

Haven't read the article, but if he's pointing out that Gerrard made equally inappropriate comments about Ryan Porteous without facing any SFA charge, then he's got a point!

[Hibbyradge]

Earlier this year, Hearts’ manager Robbie Neilson accused then Aberdeen midfielder Lewis Ferguson of “blatant cheating” during the Edinburgh club’s 2-0 win at Tynecastle.

Neilson’s comments came after referee Steven McLean awarded a penalty when Ferguson went down following a challenge by Nathan Atkinson.

Straight after the March 2 match Neilson said: “If they get that goal from the penalty it totally changes the dynamic of the game and they could go and get something out of the game after blatant cheating.

“I don’t blame the referee, I blame the player for doing it.”

Yet Neilson escaped any punishment from the SFA.

[Donegal Hibby]

Earlier this year, Hearts’ manager Robbie Neilson accused then Aberdeen midfielder Lewis Ferguson of “blatant cheating” during the Edinburgh club’s 2-0 win at Tynecastle.

Neilson’s comments came after referee Steven McLean awarded a penalty when Ferguson went down following a challenge by Nathan Atkinson.

Straight after the March 2 match Neilson said: “If they get that goal from the penalty it totally changes the dynamic of the game and they could go and get something out of the game after blatant cheating.

“I don’t blame the referee, I blame the player for doing it.”

Yet Neilson escaped any punishment from the SFA.
Cheers . I suppose that will be the route Aberdeen will go down then when it comes to the hearing ' you didn't charge the other guy when he said it about one of our players so why charge our manager now?' Sad thing is it could work in their favour maybe

[007]

Earlier this year, Hearts’ manager Robbie Neilson accused then Aberdeen midfielder Lewis Ferguson of “blatant cheating” during the Edinburgh club’s 2-0 win at Tynecastle.

Neilson’s comments came after referee Steven McLean awarded a penalty when Ferguson went down following a challenge by Nathan Atkinson.

Straight after the March 2 match Neilson said: “If they get that goal from the penalty it totally changes the dynamic of the game and they could go and get something out of the game after blatant cheating.

“I don’t blame the referee, I blame the player for doing it.”

Yet Neilson escaped any punishment from the SFA.

The difference is Ferguson's was a dive but Porteous's wasn't. Maybe the SFA take that into account (but won't admit it's a factor).

[LeithMike]

Earlier this year, Hearts’ manager Robbie Neilson accused then Aberdeen midfielder Lewis Ferguson of “blatant cheating” during the Edinburgh club’s 2-0 win at Tynecastle.

Neilson’s comments came after referee Steven McLean awarded a penalty when Ferguson went down following a challenge by Nathan Atkinson.

Straight after the March 2 match Neilson said: “If they get that goal from the penalty it totally changes the dynamic of the game and they could go and get something out of the game after blatant cheating.

“I don’t blame the referee, I blame the player for doing it.”

Yet Neilson escaped any punishment from the SFA.

I think there is a big difference. Neilson was referring to one dive or act of cheating. Goodwin went way beyond that citing Porteous's previous history and his general character. I think it is relatively easy to draw a distinction here.

[Green_one]

I think there is a big difference. Neilson was referring to one dive or act of cheating. Goodwin went way beyond that citing Porteous's previous history and his general character. I think it is relatively easy to draw a distinction here.

Goodwin also clearly approached the ref at fulltime and the player. That sort of thing can easily get inflamed. Interviews are interviews but on pitch activity is more likely to be included in a refs report

I personally hope he gets fined. From what I could see he also had little to complain about but had a tantrum anyway

[weecounty hibby]

Goodwin admitted to trying to influence the ref pre game. He then had a go at him at half time and full time. He had a go at Porto at full time. He then gretbhis eyes out to every media outlet he could and called Porto a cheat. He also called ibto question the refs abilities. Quite the rap sheet. **** him and I hope he gets hammered. The biggest difference is that Ferguson dived and Porto didn't.

[jacomo]

Goodwin admitted to trying to influence the ref pre game. He then had a go at him at half time and full time. He had a go at Porto at full time. He then gretbhis eyes out to every media outlet he could and called Porto a cheat. He also called ibto question the refs abilities. Quite the rap sheet. **** him and I hope he gets hammered. The biggest difference is that Ferguson dived and Porto didn't.


Defo.

Goodwin went way beyond previous criticism from other managers. Don’t know how the SFA will take his attempt to influence the referee, but his unsubstantiated claims of cheating were out of order.

[Onion]

I think there is a big difference. Neilson was referring to one dive or act of cheating. Goodwin went way beyond that citing Porteous's previous history and his general character. I think it is relatively easy to draw a distinction here.

Correct. Goodwin's opinion of the incident was coloured by his prejudice pre-match. His problem is the incident is open to interpretation - no more than that. There is no evidence beyond the incident to prove Porto dived or dragged the Aberdeen defender down, and that's why Goodwin will get hammered for it.

[eastmainsmsh]

Touting Roos for a Dutch Cap 🧢 Think Jim close to Cracking

[HoboHarry]

Touting Roos for a Dutch Cap �� Think Jim close to Cracking

Having in mind a descriptive term for him with regard to his goalkeeping abilities, a Dutch Cap might fit perfectly......

[007]

Touting Roos for a Dutch Cap 🧢 Think Jim close to Cracking

Just making sure he doesn't get any kangaroos pregnant.

[JimBHibees]

Having in mind a descriptive term for him with regard to his goalkeeping abilities, a Dutch Cap might fit perfectly......

:faf:

[Donegal Hibby]

Jim Goodwin doesn't want say to much about Porto incident till the hearing .would have thought it's a bit late now to take a vow of silence :rolleyes: also drivelling on about how they were will in the game at 11 v 11 and they wouldn't have lost it Bah , bah . Sorry meant Blah. :greengrin

[Donegal Hibby]

Wouldn't it be lovely if Killie could nick a result against Aberdeen or even better a win. Think Goodwin might really feel the heat then .Doidge with the winner too. :smug:

[hibby rae]

Wouldn't it be lovely if Killie could nick a result against Aberdeen or even better a win. Think Goodwin might really feel the heat then .Doidge with the winner too. :smug:

Unlikely though, Killie haven't beaten Aberdeen for over a decade.

[Donegal Hibby]

Unlikely though, Killie haven't beaten Aberdeen for over a decade.
Yeah unlikely but not impossible either though . A draw would be ok too mind .And don't forget Killie gave us a harder game then they did imo .anyhow I think it's a nice thought :greengrin

[xyz23jc]

Unlikely though, Killie haven't beaten Aberdeen for over a decade.

McInnes factor! When's that new sooperdooper ootatoon stadium being built again...?
20 years plus an' countin'!Tick...tock, as oor six fingered freens wid say!

:giruy2::giruy2:

[Mark05]

I read this morning jim Goodwin hopes common sense prevails over his sfa charge.How about using some common sense yourself jim and keep your big mouth shut then you wouldn't have started all this trouble for Ryan porteous

[Libby Hibby]

I read this morning jim Goodwin hopes common sense prevails over his sfa charge.How about using some common sense yourself jim and keep your big mouth shut then you wouldn't have started all this trouble for Ryan porteous

Truly remarkable that this dimwit is asking for common sense.

Basically say what you want, then when you’re pulled up for over the top comments that cross the line, plead for common sense.

Bolt, Jim.