Aberdeen game nxt wk.

[Amazinsauzee]

In any society, there are minorities and people who live on the fringes - not contributing to the greater good and not benefitting from being part of the collective. That's life - it's just strange that so many of them seem to be football supporters - because I haven't spoken to anyone in real life who has the views of so many on this website.

Strange, except for Rangers fans everybody I have spoken to in real life hold the same views that are getting put on this website.

[Waxy]

How many times In the past have we gave a minutes silence or applause without caring much about their social standing and religious and polical beliefs?

[Onion]

In any society, there are minorities and people who live on the fringes - not contributing to the greater good and not benefitting from being part of the collective. That's life - it's just strange that so many of them seem to be football supporters - because I haven't spoken to anyone in real life who has the views of so many on this website.

And yet so many folk on here question why the the football authorities took the decision to postpone the matches last week end, and perhaps even this weekend :greengrin

They were 100% correct to do so.

[HH81]

And yet so many folk on here question why the the football authorities took the decision to postpone the matches last week end, and perhaps even this weekend :greengrin

They were 100% correct to do so.

Why perhaps even this weekend? Thought confirmed as on?

[Yorkshire HFC]

Strange, except for Rangers fans everybody I have spoken to in real life hold the same views that are getting put on this website.

I live in Leeds, so maybe it's different here. I don't really watch much tv, but from what I have seen a lot of people in Scotland seem to want to be involved in the event. I've no idea what football team they support - not that that should make any difference.

I find it quite depressing seeing the split views - how can society progress when so many are disaffected? Or is it just that a small amount of people like to shout from behind their keyboards while others get outside and get active?

Anyway, it's not really the topic for a football website - let's hope Hibs get the 3 points on Saturday.

[Big_Franck]

I live in Leeds, so maybe it's different here. I don't really watch much tv, but from what I have seen a lot of people in Scotland seem to want to be involved in the event. I've no idea what football team they support - not that that should make any difference.

I find it quite depressing seeing the split views - how can society progress when so many are disaffected? Or is it just that a small amount of people like to shout from behind their keyboards while others get outside and get active?

Anyway, it's not really the topic for a football website - let's hope Hibs get the 3 points on Saturday.

It will definitely be different in Leeds for obvious reasons. Every fan I know was baffled that the SPFL took the decision to cancel all our games and just saw it as Doncaster following the English decision, too scared to make a decision for himself.

Playing GSTK or GTSQ at any Scottish football ground (apart from Rangers) would lead to mass boos and anyone who isn't aware of that lives in cloud cuckoo land IMO.

[He's here!]

Strange, except for Rangers fans everybody I have spoken to in real life hold the same views that are getting put on this website.

It's easy to be misled into thinking the views of some on this forum are widely reflected across the Hibs support. A number seemed enraged by the planned minute's applause for Andy Goram recently and predicted problems, yet it passed off without incident.

[Hibee Daft]

"And like a torrent rush, Rebellious Scots to crush"

🤢

[Antifa Hibs]

By the time Saturday comes we'll have had 9 days of this pish.

Let Saturday be about who's going to potentially take 3rd place.

If you want to pay your respects the body has been in Edinburgh for a couple of days.

There's an official UK minutes silence on Sunday for anyone that wants to take part.

Footballs an escapism. Would be good to get away from the hysteria for a few hours.

[marinello59]

"And like a torrent rush, Rebellious Scots to crush"

🤢

I’m totally outraged at the thought of the club doing something they haven’t even hinted they would do. If they play just one bar of GSTK I’ll do time. And if they make us sing the verse I wrote yesterday about sticking red hot pokers up every one of our Scottish bottoms I’ll go ****ing nuclear.

[Smartie]

I’m totally outraged at the thought of the club doing something they haven’t even hinted they would do. If they play just one bar of GSTK I’ll do time. And if they make us sing the verse I wrote yesterday about sticking red hot pokers up every one of our Scottish bottoms I’ll go ****ing nuclear.

I must admit, I’ve always found the furore over a verse of a song that is never sung anywhere and hasn’t done for a very long time (if it ever really was at all) quite bizarre.

Especially when our present day authorities seem happy to allow us to be serenaded by tens of thousands about being up to their knees in fenian blood without any sort of censure.

[Mcbizz1998]

"And like a torrent rush, Rebellious Scots to crush"

[emoji1785]

Ffs we have been over this. [emoji23]

[Musselbound]

For me as a lifelong republican it's quite simple.

If there is a minutes silence I will stay in the concourse until it is finished, shouldn't be a problem for me because I'm usually still in the pie queue when the game kicks off anyway :greengrin

If it's to be a minutes applause I will not take part in it but will instead stay sat in my seat eating the aforementioned pie :greengrin

If they play GSTK I will seriously question whether or not the people running our club have lost their actual minds and then have a happy few minutes enjoying the carnage unfolding in both the home and away stands ...... Seriously though, anybody who thinks that would be a good idea at any Scottish football ground outside of Govan, never mind Easter Road, would totally need their head examined :faf:

Agree with most of that and would do similar. I'd be horrified if GSTQ/K is played at ER and would hope most Scottish clubs have the good sense to overlook that naive suggestion.

[Stairway 2 7]

Seems weird anger over a song getting played at Easter Road. When no one has even suggested it will be played (it wont)

Bigger risk will be people booing or disruption. Camera phones mean it will go viral. I'm sure celtic are about to be beamed around the world for the wrong reasons. Won't be good for sponsorship, worldwide bad press is never good for business

[Gatecrasher]

Strange, except for Rangers fans everybody I have spoken to in real life hold the same views that are getting put on this website.

This Web site can be a bit of an echo chamber. It doesn't always reflect the wider hibs support and this has been provenon a few occasions.

[Musselbound]

It's easy to be misled into thinking the views of some on this forum are widely reflected across the Hibs support. A number seemed enraged by the planned minute's applause for Andy Goram recently and predicted problems, yet it passed off without incident.

It's also easy to believe that the views and sights we are seeing on TV and across the media are widely reflective of Scottish public opinion. Btw, I had no issue with a tribute to Andy Goram - a former player at the club and a very good one at that. A completely separate issue imo.

[Paulie Walnuts]

In any society, there are minorities and people who live on the fringes - not contributing to the greater good and not benefitting from being part of the collective. That's life - it's just strange that so many of them seem to be football supporters - because I haven't spoken to anyone in real life who has the views of so many on this website.

The majority of people I’ve spoken to in real life share the negative views of the monarchy on this website.

I’ve not spoken to anyone who’s upset at the news or thinks the football should have been off etc.

[Mcbizz1998]

The majority of people I’ve spoken to in real life share the negative views of the monarchy on this website.

I’ve not spoken to anyone who’s upset at the news or thinks the football should have been off etc.

Probably just reflects the company we each keep, which also possibly impacts the way we think.

A few people I know are really quite saddened by it and have been watching all the coverage, some think it’s sad but other than that aren’t that interested, and some just don’t care.

I don’t know anyone who hates the monarchy in the way some on here do.

[SlickShoes]

In any society, there are minorities and people who live on the fringes - not contributing to the greater good and not benefitting from being part of the collective. That's life - it's just strange that so many of them seem to be football supporters - because I haven't spoken to anyone in real life who has the views of so many on this website.

It's almost like Yorkshire is in a different country... who'd have thought things may be different there.

I am being arsey, but the majority of people here are going to be Scottish, many with Irish roots too, so suggesting that we are the outliers and you are normal seems bizarre.

As for that song being played at ER, I would never take part and if it was played whoever made that decision is someone that doesn't respect Hibs at all.

[Stairway 2 7]

In the last half dozen polls asking Scots if they want to keep the monarchy yes has been ahead, so this site is obviously unusual. About half of Scots want things to stay as they are with regards to the union also, so this site is atypical in that regards too

[HH81]

It's almost like Yorkshire is in a different country... who'd have thought things may be different there.

I am being arsey, but the majority of people here are going to be Scottish, many with Irish roots too, so suggesting that we are the outliers and you are normal seems bizarre.

As for that song being played at ER, I would never take part and if it was played whoever made that decision is someone that doesn't respect Hibs at all.

I'm from Yorkshire, I'd say it's about 50/50 who have no interest in the Queen and others that do.

Most of my friends/work colleagues belive the football should not have been cancelled. Very few said they were ok with it. This was Leeds,Huddersfield and Sheffield Wednesday fans I spoke to.

[Stairway 2 7]

How does anyone think we'll get on on Saturday or more talking about the queen to be done.

Need to be more clinical than against united. Mckirdy should be ready to go and better integrated

[easty]

How does anyone think we'll get on on Saturday or more talking about the queen to be done.

Need to be more clinical than against united. Mckirdy should be ready to go and better integrated

Is McKirdy available?

[Mcbizz1998]

Is McKirdy available?

Yeah good question? I presumed he wasn’t tbh but hopefully wrong.

[davhibby]

I live in Leeds, so maybe it's different here. I don't really watch much tv, but from what I have seen a lot of people in Scotland seem to want to be involved in the event. I've no idea what football team they support - not that that should make any difference.

I find it quite depressing seeing the split views - how can society progress when so many are disaffected? Or is it just that a small amount of people like to shout from behind their keyboards while others get outside and get active?

Anyway, it's not really the topic for a football website - let's hope Hibs get the 3 points on Saturday.

There’s a lot less support for the monarchy in Scotland than anywhere in England probably with the exception of Liverpool so of course it’s different up here.

If clubs go ahead with a minutes silence at the weekend I think you’d be in single figures of well observed silences from the 21 SPFL games. Applause would be better but there was nothing mentioned re applause in the SFA statement so I’m not sure if that would be allowed

[hibsbollah]

Is McKirdy available?

No, he’s suspended. Opportunity for Kukharevych.

[NthCarolinaHibs]

No, he’s suspended. Opportunity for Kukharevych.

Has his work permit come through 🤔

[Stairway 2 7]

Shame about mckirdy but doubt he'd have started. Probably similar team to killie although maybe not Henderson?

[GreenGray]

And yet so many folk on here question why the the football authorities took the decision to postpone the matches last week end, and perhaps even this weekend :greengrin

They were 100% correct to do so.

100% correct, I bet even if you asked the football authorities they wouldn’t agree with you.


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[GreenGray]

I live in Leeds, so maybe it's different here. I don't really watch much tv, but from what I have seen a lot of people in Scotland seem to want to be involved in the event. I've no idea what football team they support - not that that should make any difference.

I find it quite depressing seeing the split views - how can society progress when so many are disaffected? Or is it just that a small amount of people like to shout from behind their keyboards while others get outside and get active?

Anyway, it's not really the topic for a football website - let's hope Hibs get the 3 points on Saturday.

Every time I see you post all you talk about is how much you hate football fans, it’s boring.


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[hibsbollah]

Has his work permit come through 🤔

They were hoping for this week. If not Melkersen is a definite I suppose.

[Gmack7]

They were hoping for this week. If not Melkersen is a definite I suppose.

And so he should be if fit,

[hibsbollah]

And so he should be if fit,

I’ve been disappointed so far. I fear he’s not ready. Hopefully I’m wrong.

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.thenational.scot/news/20140060.fewer-half-scots-support-keeping-monarchy/

I'm not replying to the post that said most Scots support the monarchy, just wondering where they get their information.

[Chorley Hibee]

In any society, there are minorities and people who live on the fringes - not contributing to the greater good and not benefitting from being part of the collective. That's life - it's just strange that so many of them seem to be football supporters - because I haven't spoken to anyone in real life who has the views of so many on this website.

Perhaps our archaic institutions, and successive Tory governments, are the very reason so many people feel that they are on the fringes of 'society'.

And perhaps, it might be the reason they have no wish to participate in the 'greater good' you speak of.

[Phil MaGlass]

Its mostly older people that support the monarchy, the young are wised up. In a decade or so after Indy, the monarchy will be dumped. Especially once the energy crisis properly sets in and people cant afford to feed or heat themselves.
Oh and definitely once they realise the monarchy costs around 345 million a year to run and they dont pay full taxes, exemptions on energy etc, etc,etc....
If we decide to play gstq at ER, I will also be joining the carnage that will inevitably follow.

[Stairway 2 7]

https://www.thenational.scot/news/20140060.fewer-half-scots-support-keeping-monarchy/

I'm not replying to the post that said most Scots support the monarchy, just wondering where they get their information.

I said most chose that option you've provided the proof. Most doesn't need to mean over 50%, but take away undecided and you also have a majority of Scots wanting to keep the monarchy

Can't remember the figures but in the last one it was like 45% said keep, 19% undecided. Pretty conclusive. Although that could change post queen and its generational also

[Gmack7]

I’ve been disappointed so far. I fear he’s not ready. Hopefully I’m wrong.

I agree to an extent, but I would like to see him get a run through the middle with Boyle and Youan either side

[GreenGray]

In the last half dozen polls asking Scots if they want to keep the monarchy yes has been ahead, so this site is obviously unusual. About half of Scots want things to stay as they are with regards to the union also, so this site is atypical in that regards too

You got a source for that? I’d bet the majority of those queuing to see the queens coffin last night were either tourists or people who have moved to Scotland.


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[Stairway 2 7]

I agree to an extent, but I would like to see him get a run through the middle with Boyle and Youan either side

People forget how young Melkerson is he's 19. At that age deek had played 9 not scored and was not yet at Cowdenbeath. O'connor is only a year younger and Campbell 3 years older.

It's like people who said josh doig was inconsistent. Aye you get that when you ****** 18 19, he was clearly a star in the making.

[DH1875]

EPL games starting to fall. Arsenal, Chelsea, Utd all off at weekend.

[Stairway 2 7]

You got a source for that? I’d bet the majority of those queuing to see the queens coffin last night were either tourists or people who have moved to Scotland.


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First source is the link M Y put up 45% wanted to keep monarchy 19% undecided. This one a year earlier 47% said keep, 35% said elected head of state.

Nowt as queer as folk. It's daft to say a big % of Scots aren't pro monarchy, just because we wish it so

[Stairway 2 7]

EPL games starting to fall. Arsenal, Chelsea, Utd all off at weekend.

London police?

[DH1875]

London police?

Sorry, Man Utd so not all London.

[Stairway 2 7]

Sorry, Man Utd so not all London.

Cheers, not good get the game confirmed hibs

[Stairway 2 7]

Yaas pre match preview, bring it on

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/preview-aberdeen-h-1

[GreenGray]

First source is the link M Y put up 45% wanted to keep monarchy 19% undecided. This one a year earlier 47% said keep, 35% said elected head of state.

Nowt as queer as folk. It's daft to say a big % of Scots aren't pro monarchy, just because we wish it so

You said Yes to keep has been ahead, which it hasn’t.


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[Saint Hibee]

People forget how young Melkerson is he's 19. At that age deek had played 9 not scored and was not yet at Cowdenbeath. O'connor is only a year younger and Campbell 3 years older.

It's like people who said josh doig was inconsistent. Aye you get that when you ****** 18 19, he was clearly a star in the making.

You can add to that the fact that he's been played out of position, or at least, not in his favoured position.

[Chorley Hibee]

Minute applause confirmed by Hibs.

Probably the least controversial option.

[hibsbollah]

Minute applause confirmed by Hibs.

Probably the least controversial option.

Safe and sensible decision.

[danhibees1875]

You said Yes to keep has been ahead, which it hasn’t.


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It sounds like it is from that article that was posted earlier, unless I've read it wrong.

45/36 For/Against, 19 undecided.

Excluding the 19, that's 56/44 in favour of keeping.

[Hibee Daft]

I must admit, I’ve always found the furore over a verse of a song that is never sung anywhere and hasn’t done for a very long time (if it ever really was at all) quite bizarre.

Especially when our present day authorities seem happy to allow us to be serenaded by tens of thousands about being up to their knees in fenian blood without any sort of censure.

Its the history of the song, those were the original lyrics.

Fans singing 'were upto our knees in big trophies' to the same tune of hello hello is a similar example.

The lyrics have changed.. but the history of it remains.

[Stairway 2 7]

You said Yes to keep has been ahead, which it hasn’t.


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? It has. I disagree with them but more people in Scotland when asked want to keep the monarchy than get rid. I think that will change, but there is a sizable number that want them

[Hibbyradge]

Its the history of the song, those were the original lyrics.

Fans singing 'were upto our knees in big trophies' to the same tune of hello hello is a similar example.

The lyrics have changed.. but the history of it remains.

They were not the original lyrics.

[Donegal Hibby]

David Dickinson ref for Dons game never heard of him before?

[Hibbyradge]

David Dickinson ref for Dons game never heard of him before?

He's an Orangeman.

https://i.postimg.cc/j2DFFbGM/David-Dickinson.jpg

[Hibee Daft]

They were not the original lyrics.

They were sang during the jacobite rebellion in 1745.

[Springbank]

? It has. I disagree with them but more people in Scotland when asked want to keep the monarchy than get rid. I think that will change, but there is a sizable number that want them

Not sure if you're at the semantics here, but 17th century monarchy is not a majority view in the 21st century European country called Scotland.

The Herald

"FEWER THAN HALF OF ALL SCOTS WANT TO KEEP THE MONARCHY"

capitals for emphasis, detail below

https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/20140477.fewer-half-scots-want-keep-monarchy/

[Donegal Hibby]

He's an Orangeman.

https://i.postimg.cc/j2DFFbGM/David-Dickinson.jpg
:faf::top marks

[Hibbyradge]

They were sang during the jacobite rebellion in 1745.

Yes, that's when they were made up as an addition to the original.

[Hibbyradge]

Not sure if you're at the semantics here, but 17th century monarchy is not a majority view in the 21st century European country called Scotland.

The Herald

"FEWER THAN HALF OF ALL SCOTS WANT TO KEEP THE MONARCHY"

capitals for emphasis, detail below

https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/20140477.fewer-half-scots-want-keep-monarchy/

More Scots want to keep the monarchy than scrap it.

[Springbank]

More Scots want to keep the monarchy than scrap it.

...if you remove a large chunk of society/respondents.

[Billy Whizz]

No McKirdy on Saturday, but available for Ross County away

[Stairway 2 7]

Not sure if you're at the semantics here, but 17th century monarchy is not a majority view in the 21st century European country called Scotland.

The Herald

"FEWER THAN HALF OF ALL SCOTS WANT TO KEEP THE MONARCHY"

capitals for emphasis, detail below

https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/20140477.fewer-half-scots-want-keep-monarchy/

I never said it was a majority but a clear favorite. Take away don't knows and it is a majority.

I think some people are maybe thinking that because 45% say they are for then 55% must be against. But if you read the article it isn't that

[Stairway 2 7]

...if you remove a large chunk of society/respondents.

Even if you don't remove more want than want an elected head

[Hibbyradge]

...if you remove a large chunk of society/respondents.

Who is being removed?

45% Keep

36% Scrap

19% Don't know, don't care, didn't reply.

How else can you interpret those figures other than more want to keep than scrap?

[marinello59]

Who is being removed?

45% Keep

36% Scrap

19% Don't know, don't care, didn't reply.

How else can you interpret those figures other than more want to keep than scrap?

If you take away the ones who want to keep the monarchy......................:greengrin


As an avid republican / monarchist I'm predicting a three nil win for us.

[Gmack7]

People forget how young Melkerson is he's 19. At that age deek had played 9 not scored and was not yet at Cowdenbeath. O'connor is only a year younger and Campbell 3 years older.

It's like people who said josh doig was inconsistent. Aye you get that when you ****** 18 19, he was clearly a star in the making.
I know he's a long way from the finished article. But if he's fit our front 3 is better with him through the middle and Youan wide instead of Henderson IMO, Bring on Saturday

[Hibee Daft]

Yes, that's when they were made up as an addition to the original.

Yeah so the song was used as a tool during a period of time when a vast majority of the Scottish and English people were at war.

Its not difficult to understand why some people dislike it.

[Mcbizz1998]

Who is being removed?

45% Keep

36% Scrap

19% Don't know, don't care, didn't reply.

How else can you interpret those figures other than more want to keep than scrap?

Correct.

And when push comes to shove in things like referendums, the “don’t knows/don’t cares” usually stick the status quo in the main.

[Mcbizz1998]

Yeah so the song was used as a tool during a period of time when a vast majority of the Scottish and English people were at war.

Its not difficult to understand why some people dislike it.

The Scottish and English were not at war, please do some reading.

The Jacobites were rebels who were fighting against the British. More Scot’s fought for King George II (Britain) than for Bonnie Prince Charlie.

[Hibbyradge]

Yeah so the song was used as a tool during a period of time when a vast majority of the Scottish and English people were at war.

Its not difficult to understand why some people dislike it.

No, it's not difficult to understand that, but you said that they were the original lyrics when they were not.

I dilike GTSQ/K for several reasons, but that verse has not been sung for hundreds of years.

We still sing about defeating Edward's army so it's a bit hypocritical to get all offended about a few words which we have never heard sung.

The only people who even mention that verse are Scots wanting to be offended, ffs.

[crieffhibee]

Forget the old bag. This is a huge game for us this weekend Aberdeen are looking good this season, then along with hearts are our biggest rivals for Europe.

There’s more important things than a 96 year old woman dieing

[Hibbyradge]

Forget the old bag. This is a huge game for us this weekend Aberdeen are looking good this season, then along with hearts are our biggest rivals for Europe.

There’s more important things than a 96 year old woman dieing

Spelling being one of them. :tee hee:

[Hibee Daft]

No, it's not difficult to understand that, but you said that they were the original lyrics when they were not.

I dilike GTSQ/K for several reasons, but that verse has not been been sung for hundreds of years.

We still sing about defeating Edward's army so it's a bit hypocritical to get all offended about a few words which we have never heard sung.

The only people who even mention that verse are Scots wanting to be offended, ffs.

I wouldnt expect an Englishman to sing Flower of Scotland... or for an English team to play it at their stadium.

Flower of Scotland represents Scotland being free from England for many whilst God Save the King is the exact opposite.

[Hector Mudflap]

No, it's not difficult to understand that, but you said that they were the original lyrics when they were not.

I dilike GTSQ/K for several reasons, but that verse has not been sung for hundreds of years.

We still sing about defeating Edward's army so it's a bit hypocritical to get all offended about a few words which we have never heard sung.

The only people who even mention that verse are Scots wanting to be offended, ffs.



this completely .

[Hibbyradge]

I wouldnt expect an Englishman to sing Flower of Scotland... or for an English team to play it at their stadium.

Flower of Scotland represents Scotland being free from England for many whilst God Save the King is the exact opposite.

I'm not sure what relevance either of those paragraphs are to my points.

No-one sings about crushing rebellious Scots and haven't for hundreds of years.

Flower of Scotland sings about defeating Edward's army.

Some people are determined to be offended by something that a) doesn't happen and b) they don't actually understand.

As I said, I dislike GTSK for several reasons.

[Ronniekirk]

No McKirdy on Saturday, but available for Ross County away

Good news but we really could of done with him off the bench v Aberdeen Has the Ukrainian guy been cleared to play yet

[NAE NOOKIE]

Minute applause confirmed by Hibs.

Probably the least controversial option.

Agreed. That gives those of us who do not want to participate the option not to clap, as opposed to the only available option during a minutes silence you don't agree with, which is to disrupt it.

[NAE NOOKIE]

In any society, there are minorities and people who live on the fringes - not contributing to the greater good and not benefitting from being part of the collective. That's life - it's just strange that so many of them seem to be football supporters - because I haven't spoken to anyone in real life who has the views of so many on this website.

Jeezo mate, is this a serious response to my post.

How can you possibly say that being anti monarchy, or wanting a republic is "living on the fringes of society" and especially "not contributing to the greater good" .... do you know all of these people personally then? ..... Do you know me? .... seriously, what a load of insulting bollox, how in the name of all that's holy can fawning and grovelling to another human being simply because of the circumstances of their birth in any way be classed as 'contributing to the greater good' ..... absolutely hilarious :faf:

Support for the monarchy, especially in this country is, or rather was, massively based on ( for reasons I fail to understand ) a personal affection for the queen ...... an affection that certainly does not translate to affection for the new incumbent, a man who aside from being massively aware of his place in society has form for displaying an attitude that you should remember yours.

[marinello59]

Good news but we really could of done with him off the bench v Aberdeen Has the Ukrainian guy been cleared to play yet

Aye, would have been good to see what he can do after a decent settling in period. I have no idea about the Ukranian guy and really don't know what to expect from him. :greengrin

[worcesterhibby]

Really Really hope Melkerson is in the middle of a three with Boyle and Yuan...He showed what he is capable of V Motherwell, I really think if he scores a couple he'll get lots...Plus Yuan is really due a goal. 4-2 Hibs Melks x 2, Yuan, Boyle

[worcesterhibby]

In any society, there are minorities and people who live on the fringes - not contributing to the greater good and not benefitting from being part of the collective. That's life - it's just strange that so many of them seem to be football supporters - because I haven't spoken to anyone in real life who has the views of so many on this website.

Wow that is an absolutely shocking post ! Have a word with yourself. Are you actually suggesting that someone who doesn't love and adore the Monarchy lives "on the fringes of society - not contributing to the greater good". You may not have used any swear words, but that assertation is shockingly offensive to every hard working, tax payer, who disagrees with the idea of there being a "special" family chosen by God who we have to pay to live in 5 palaces. I really think you should apologise, what possible evidence have you got that people who are not Royalists, don't "contribute to the greater good" ?

[He's here!]

Forget the old bag. This is a huge game for us this weekend Aberdeen are looking good this season, then along with hearts are our biggest rivals for Europe.

There’s more important things than a 96 year old woman dieing

Classy post.

[Billy Whizz]

Would be nice to talk about football on here

Massive game for Hibs on Saturday, to get 3 points would be fantastic

[DH1875]

People do realise that if we had won independence and were no longer part of the UK that the queen would still have been our queen and that this would have still been an issue. Or would it have been as much of an issue I don't know, wouldn't have been an excuse though.

[Donegal Hibby]

Really Really hope Melkerson is in the middle of a three with Boyle and Yuan...He showed what he is capable of V Motherwell, I really think if he scores a couple he'll get lots...Plus Yuan is really due a goal. 4-2 Hibs Melks x 2, Yuan, Boyle
I hope this too , Melkerson hasn't really looked right out wide imo ,think if he's played in the centre would be better and as you said he's capable of scoring as he did against Motherwell I thought he was really clinical in that game. Melks and Youan hopefully just need a goal to get them going . Be great if we have work permit for Mykola shorted too , Handy option coming off the bench .

[Hibee Daft]

I'm not sure what relevance either of those paragraphs are to my points.

No-one sings about crushing rebellious Scots and haven't for hundreds of years.

Flower of Scotland sings about defeating Edward's army.

Some people are determined to be offended by something that a) doesn't happen and b) they don't actually understand.

As I said, I dislike GTSK for several reasons.

Like i said before its the history of the song, ive explained that to you already. The lyrics in the song that were used. Thats why people dont like it.

In regards to your point about Flower of Scotland... i dont really know where to start. Do you need me to tell you the meaning behind the song? Are you from Scotland? ...its pretty basic stuff.

[EGL2000]

Midfield will need to be up for it. Ramadani there new boy in the middle is posting the best stats in a number of areas this season. Looks a great bit of business by them.

[Mcbizz1998]

Like i said before its the history of the song, ive explained that to you already. The lyrics in the song that were used. Thats why people dont like it.

In regards to your point about Flower of Scotland... i dont really know where to start. Do you need me to tell you the meaning behind the song? Are you from Scotland? ...its pretty basic stuff.

You don’t understand the history of the song. You think the Jacobite rebellion was a war between Scotland and England.

[Torto7]

The Scottish and English were not at war, please do some reading.

The Jacobites were rebels who were fighting against the British. More Scot’s fought for King George II (Britain) than for Bonnie Prince Charlie.

You might want to do some reading yourself. It was part of the ongoing effort to anglicize Scotland, the first invasions happened during the time of the picts. The fact so many 'Scots' fought on the redcoats side just shows what a good job the imperial whip did. That and the protestant bigotry that seeps through every pore in the UK.

[Mcbizz1998]

You might want to do some reading yourself. It was part of the ongoing effort to anglicize Scotland, the first invasions happened during the time of the picts. The fact so many 'Scots' fought on the redcoats side just shows what a good job the imperial whip did. That and the protestant bigotry that seeps through every pore in the UK.

I’ve done my reading mate, don’t you worry.

We are very specifically talking about when this verse of GSTK was sung, which was 1745. The poster I was responding to seems to believe that it was a war between Scotland and England (untrue). You can come up with whatever reason you like as to why Scottish people supported the king and not a small band of French backed rebels from the highlands, but the facts remain.

Conversely, although the Jacobite’s were mainly Scottish, they also had English, Irish and French fighting alongside them. To suggest that it was a war between Scotland and England, and therefore the verse of that song is somehow anti-Scottish shows such a mind boggling level of ignorance to history, it beggars belief.

They point is, the verse of the song was sung briefly, at a very specific point in history and never again before/since. It is not some kind of dig at Scotland, in fact it was probably even sung by Scot’s at the time as the Jacobite WERE rebellious Scots. It was never an official version, it hasn’t been heard in almost 300 years.

As the poster above says, it’s brought up by chippy Scottish people looking for a reason to be offended - the wilfully or genuinely ignorant.

[Hibee Daft]

You don’t understand the history of the song. You think the Jacobite rebellion was a war between Scotland and England.

Actually i do understand the history... not sure why you think i dont. Its quite arrogant for you to say that.

The jacobites were fighting for a king that could trace his heritage back to Robert the Bruce

[Purple Bukta]

Could we chant Charlie, Charlie pay your tax, Charlie pay your tax?

[James Stephen]

I’ve done my reading mate, don’t you worry.

We are very specifically talking about when this verse of GSTK was sung, which was 1745. The poster I was responding to seems to believe that it was a war between Scotland and England (untrue). You can come up with whatever reason you like as to why Scottish people supported the king and not a small band of French backed rebels from the highlands, but the facts remain.

Conversely, although the Jacobite’s were mainly Scottish, they also had English, Irish and French fighting alongside them. To suggest that it was a war between Scotland and England, and therefore the verse of that song is somehow anti-Scottish shows such a mind boggling level of ignorance to history, it beggars belief.

They point is, the verse of the song was sung briefly, at a very specific point in history and never again before/since. It is not some kind of dig at Scotland, in fact it was probably even sung by Scot’s at the time as the Jacobite WERE rebellious Scots. It was never an official version, it hasn’t been heard in almost 300 years.

As the poster above says, it’s brought up by chippy Scottish people looking for a reason to be offended - the wilfully or genuinely ignorant.

I dont care about the verse of the song.

But surely the point was that the Scots were, by definition rebellious, as to be loyal in those days was to be British. I think the two were mutually exclusive, as it was the period of North Britain?

[Hibee Daft]

I’ve done my reading mate, don’t you worry.

We are very specifically talking about when this verse of GSTK was sung, which was 1745. The poster I was responding to seems to believe that it was a war between Scotland and England (untrue). You can come up with whatever reason you like as to why Scottish people supported the king and not a small band of French backed rebels from the highlands, but the facts remain.

Conversely, although the Jacobite’s were mainly Scottish, they also had English, Irish and French fighting alongside them. To suggest that it was a war between Scotland and England, and therefore the verse of that song is somehow anti-Scottish shows such a mind boggling level of ignorance to history, it beggars belief.

They point is, the verse of the song was sung briefly, at a very specific point in history and never again before/since. It is not some kind of dig at Scotland, in fact it was probably even sung by Scot’s at the time as the Jacobite WERE rebellious Scots. It was never an official version, it hasn’t been heard in almost 300 years.

As the poster above says, it’s brought up by chippy Scottish people looking for a reason to be offended - the wilfully or genuinely ignorant.

So "rebellious scots to crush" isnt anti Scottish.

Thanks for letting us all know.

[Mcbizz1998]

Actually i do understand the history... not sure why you think i dont. Its quite arrogant for you to say that.

The jacobites were fighting for a king that could trace his heritage back to Robert the Bruce

Claiming that England and Scotland were at war in 1745 is why I don’t think you do.

Yes, The old pretender did have a direct line back to Robert the Bruce but then…. so did King George II, given they were both descendants of King James VI & I. Not that we were discussing it but I agree, the Jacobites had a good point and the stronger claim to the throne. Unfortunately, Scotland didn’t want a Catholic king at the time and as with most things in that period, sectarian hatred came up trumps.

[Mcbizz1998]

So "rebellious scots to crush" isnt anti Scottish.

Thanks for letting us all know.

Aah mate, this is obviously all a bit nuanced for you.

You tried though so well done

[Hibee Daft]

Aah mate, this is obviously all a bit nuanced for you.

You tried though so well done

Again your coming across very arrogant. I never once said it was a war a between Scotland and England.

I said it was used as a tool when the majority of Scottish and English people were at war.

Im getting abit tired of talking with you, i dont like the song ive explained why.

[Mcbizz1998]

Again your coming across very arrogant. I never once said it was a war a between Scotland and England.

I said it was used as a tool when the majority of Scottish and English people were at war.

Im getting abit tired of talking with you, i dont like the song ive explained why.

Oh I know exactly why you don’t like the song.

[HNA12]

Time to shut this one, it's not moving forward any and it's veered miles away from the actual game. Similar conversation being had on the Holy Ground so feel free to carry on bickering over there. :greengrin