Club Charged

[BoomtownHibees]

Confirmed we have been charged for playing a suspended player last night. Wonder who it was

Club is a shambles

[The Captain....]

Can't even get the basics right.

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[The Sundance Kid]

Bushiri was booked against Falkirk and Bonnyrigg Rose so I think it must have been him

[SaulGoodman]

I bet it was Bojang, his booking in the 2021/22 Gambian league cup 17th round carried over.

[mcohibs]

Rocky booked against Falkirk and Bonnyrigg?

[Souter96Mac]

Laughable

[LaMotta]

Ffs

[Northernhibee]

Absolutely ****ing amateur. Utterly pathetic.

From the shambles that was the unenthusiastic website announcement of Bushiris signing that threw him to the wolves to the scattergun recruitment to our performance in the cup and this.

The club needs a clear out.

[Mikey_1875]

Bad start for the new head of football operations.

[Bishop Hibee]

Absolute mess. Did Busheri get 2 yellows before playing last night? Disgrace at board level. If Gordon is out of his depth he should put the club up for sale.

[GreenGray]

Is this something a director of football (which we don’t have or need apparently) would deal with and ensure doesn’t happen?


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[Sir David Gray]

This is quite frankly unacceptable.

We are being run by people who are quite simply incompetent. Another thing to add to the list of things which just sums up what is wrong with the club right now.

[Hibs90]

Whoever done that needs punted.

Then Kensell needs punted and Burrows needs brought in from Motherwell and he can punt Ian Gordon and we can get a proper head of recruitment and a sporting director.

Absolute mess of a club.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Could that mean we're booted out of the competition before being knocked out?

[Chorley Hibee]

Rocky booked against Falkirk and Bonnyrigg?

Accidentally signing him wasn't enough of a **** up it seems, now we're playing him when he's suspended too.

Club is run by imposters.

[Sir David Gray]

Could that mean we're booted out of the competition before being knocked out?

Yep.

[Heisenberg]

The guy we brought in from Livingston had been doing the same role with them I’m sure. It would’ve been his responsibility to pick up on this. Amateur hour.

[SHODAN]

AAAAAAAHAHAHHAAHAHaAhahhahaAAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHH AHAHAHAHAHAH

[.Sean.]

Let’s see what pile of piss they’re going to come out with to try and spin it.

We’re a joke off the field, and not much better on it.

[JimboHibs]

For crimes against football ....

[H18 SFR]

This one is the fault of the smiling laddie we got from Livingston.

[Vault Boy]

Bad start for the new head of football operations.

Feel for the guy starting a hectic new role, but yes it must be said that this is a massive howler. How nobody picked up on it is beyond me.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Yep.

Not really to be fair. It’ll mean a points deduction rather than booted out so we’ll just end up knocked out with less points than we would have got knocked out with anyway.

[04Sauzee]

I thought Rocky may be suspended before last night, assumed it must be 3 bookings.

[SteveHFC]

This club is a ****ing disgrace.

[SHODAN]

Good thing we never won then.

[number9dream]

Get your money on a Clyde win now!
Highly embarrassing…

[MelbourneHibees]

Think from memory Hearts were given a points deduction for this whilst other teams have been thrown out the Comp outright?
Absolute shambles.

[overdrive]

So we’d have been out even if we’d won last night :faf:

Kensell really needs to go. He’s the guy responsible for running the club day to day and he’s failing miserably!

[Gloucester Hibs]

Wouldn’t this be something the club secretary would normally pick up on? And do we still have one? Potentially a couple of basic admin errors made recently 🤔

[H18 SFR]

Think from memory Hearts were given a points deduction for this whilst other teams have been thrown out the Comp outright?
Absolute shambles.

They weren’t the same circumstances. He was unregistered. We get an automatic 3-0 loss as it’s in the competition rules.

[Vault Boy]

Good thing we never won then.

The staff responsible are genuinely lucky we ****ed it up last night eh? Imagine qualifying yesterday and getting dumped out by an admin issue today. Jeezo.

[Tyler Durden]

The guy we brought in from Livingston had been doing the same role with them I’m sure. It would’ve been his responsibility to pick up on this. Amateur hour.

Yeah, Derek White was it?

Wow what an embarrassment. Must be grounds for dismissal.

Really lurching from one farce to the next.

[mcfly]

We are coming across as a very amateurish club run by non footballing people who really don’t know what’s going on.

Add in our recruitment system and we are a shambles.

We need someone in charge who knows how to run a football operation.

This is pathetic

[we are hibs]

Is there anyone at Hibs capable of doing their job correctly anymore?

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[xqnq1875]

It’s just becoming laughable now I don’t know what’s going on behind closed doors but it’s not good at all


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[PeeJay]

If it is Rocky, wouldn't he have known himself that he couldn't actually play? Johnson and his staff too must be aware of which players they can use at any given time ... :confused:

[Chorley Hibee]

Should refund every one of us that attended last night too.

A complete waste of time and money due to the incompetent ********s running the club.

Don't care how much it costs the club either, Ron Gordon can cover the cost out his own pocket. Perhaps it might help him reflect on the utter ****show that is ER currently.

[HibsGW]

Hardly even know what to say this is that ridiculous. If Clyde win against Falkirk and this puts us out, as well as the **** performances, serious questions need to be asked about the running of the club. Completely unprofessional.

[Pretty Boy]

My dad does all the admin for the Lowland development league and he barely sees something like this happen once a season. That's guys holding down full time jobs and doing a bit admin in the evening.

This is the absolute basics. Laughably bad.

[SHODAN]

Thought Ian Gordon would have an FM simulation of the team on the go which would have automatically told us Bushiri was suspended. Ah well.

[Coco Bryce]

From one shambles to another fir Hibs now :rolleyes:

[04Sauzee]

How do I get a refund for last night 😅
Obviously kidding but this is a shocker

[Tyler Durden]

If it is Rocky, wouldn't he have known himself that he couldn't actually play? Johnson and his staff too must be aware of which players they can use at any given time ... :confused:

I'm a little surprised that none of the mgmt team questioned it. But it would be the job of the Head of Footballing Operations - Derek White - to give them this information from game to game.

We put Rocky's contract extension down to the gap in that capacity. We've then brought this guy in and he's had this massive failure in month one by the looks of it.

[DH1875]

LOL, well if you don't laugh......Get your money on a clyde win now.

[H18 SFR]

Don’t like the idea of anyone losing their job but the boy White needs to walk or get removed, pure and simple.

[Hermit Crab]

This one is the fault of the smiling laddie we got from Livingston.


The plus sized boy that was wandering around the pitch at bonnyrigg?

[Phil MaGlass]

Oops this news might put this thread https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?358365-On-a-positive-note%85 to a premature end.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Should refund every one of us that attended last night too.

A complete waste of time and money due to the incompetent ********s running the club.

Don't care how much it costs the club either, Ron Gordon can cover the cost out his own pocket. Perhaps it might help him reflect on the utter ****show that is ER currently.

100%. They should absolutely be refunding that.

[H18 SFR]

The plus sized boy that was wandering around the pitch at bonnyrigg?

Yes

[flash]

The scary thing is it's not as if it's carried over and been missed.

It's literally our previous two games.

I hate to see people lose their jobs but this is pretty grim stuff.

[Northernhibee]

Let’s see what pile of piss they’re going to come out with to try and spin it.

We’re a joke off the field, and not much better on it.

“Never mind that, look at this new deal we’ve done for an official Jaffa cake partner!”

[mcohibs]

The staff responsible are genuinely lucky we ****ed it up last night eh? Imagine qualifying yesterday and getting dumped out by an admin issue today. Jeezo.

We gained a point last night which is likely to be taken away now with a 3-0 win awarded to Morton. Could still affect us in not going through in 2nd place.

[hibsforeurope]

Bad start for the new head of football operations.

Not a great start for him but it's a hell of a task list and responsibility he's got considering he's on not much more than living wage.

[G15 Hibs]

If it is Rocky, wouldn't he have known himself that he couldn't actually play? Johnson and his staff too must be aware of which players they can use at any given time ... :confused:

Can't blame the player, whoever it is. It's not their job. Someone at the club is paid to keep up with these things and make sure the manager is made aware of suspensions.

[Spike Mandela]

The start to the season has now become farce. This is embarrassing.

[BoomtownHibees]

If it is Rocky, wouldn't he have known himself that he couldn't actually play? Johnson and his staff too must be aware of which players they can use at any given time ... :confused:

Don’t think Rocky can get any of the blame for this. I’d be surprised if any player knows what the suspension rules are

[Bristolhibby]

Rocky booked against Falkirk and Bonnyrigg?

Amateur hour at this club. Simple basics, could be handled with a simple spreadsheet.

J

[loanheadhibby]

If the alarm bells are not ringing now for us supporters, heaven help us.

[I'm Spartacus]

Shambolic.

[WestStandWillie]

Be asking the boy we just got from Livi to clear his desk - amateur behaviour right there.

[MKHIBEE]

We have been charged, no one here knows for definite who the player is or the circumstances surrounding the case but people are wanting others to lose their jobs. The usual ****storm of people sticking the knife in at the earliest opportunity.

[PeeJay]

I'm a little surprised that none of the mgmt team questioned it. But it would be the job of the Head of Footballing Operations - Derek White - to give them this information from game to game.

We put Rocky's contract extension down to the gap in that capacity. We've then brought this guy in and he's had this massive failure in month one by the looks of it.

Yeah, I was just thinking of personal responsibility, I mean the players themselves should be better aware of yellow/red cards and possible suspensions? Can't be too difficult to keep track ...

[SaulGoodman]

Can we now claim we’ve been demoted from the competition instead of realistically saying we failed to get out a group containing Falkirk, Clyde, Morton and Bonnyrigg?

[Hibernia&Alba]

My dad does all the admin for the Lowland development league and he barely sees something like this happen once a season. That's guys holding down full time jobs and doing a bit admin in the evening.

This is the absolute basics. Laughably bad.
Yes, it's really poor for a professional club. Mistakes happen, but it's such a fundamental thing. Very sloppy.

[BlackSheep]

Not a single person on here has stated the suspension rules for this competition... nor has anyone said 'oh i thought that was the case'....

Just another excuse to put the boot in.

[HFC93]

This is genuinely embarrassing. A sackable offence for whoever is responsible.

[SaulGoodman]

We have been charged, no one here knows for definite who the player is or the circumstances surrounding the case but people are wanting others to lose their jobs. The usual ****storm of people sticking the knife in at the earliest opportunity.

I like your positivity but the statement said it was a player that was suspended. Someone within the club wasn’t doing their job right.

[Northernhibee]

Not a single person on here has stated the suspension rules for this competition... nor has anyone said 'oh i thought that was the case'....

Just another excuse to put the boot in.

It’s not the job of posters on here to know the rules. The club actually pays someone to do that.

Its literally what they receive remuneration to do.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Not a single person on here has stated the suspension rules for this competition... nor has anyone said 'oh i thought that was the case'....

Just another excuse to put the boot in.

Just to be clear, you think we can only ‘put the boot in’ if we keep a track of bookings? :faf:

[SaulGoodman]

Not a single person on here has stated the suspension rules for this competition... nor has anyone said 'oh i thought that was the case'....

Just another excuse to put the boot in.

It’s not our job to keep track of that 😂

[Scouse Hibee]

Not a great start for him but it's a hell of a task list and responsibility he's got considering he's on not much more than living wage.

The salary is irrelevant, he would have known the salary and the job role before accepting the job.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Can we now claim we’ve been demoted from the competition instead of realistically saying we failed to get out a group containing Falkirk, Clyde, Morton and Bonnyrigg?

Unfortunately not as it’s just a points deduction presumably.

With any luck though we can be expelled.

[Steven79]

Yeah, I was just thinking of personal responsibility, I mean the players themselves should be better aware of yellow/red cards and possible suspensions? Can't be too difficult to keep track ...It's not the players responsibility to keep track of that.

Maybe if it was a semi final but a group stage game and I doubt they even know the rules.

Don't the SPFL send out a list of players that are suspended as well?

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[Broken Gnome]

Relatively speaking of course, but given the disdain a lot of the support hold the club in right now they could hardly have made matters worse.

Not helping themselves at all.

[Billy Whizz]

Not a single person on here has stated the suspension rules for this competition... nor has anyone said 'oh i thought that was the case'....

Just another excuse to put the boot in.

Absolute tosh. Clubs will be well aware of the suspension rules
Things like this should be checked, checked and checked again. Shouldn’t be one persons responsibility

[Heisenberg]

Not a single person on here has stated the suspension rules for this competition... nor has anyone said 'oh i thought that was the case'....

Just another excuse to put the boot in.

The club pay someone to be on top of this stuff. It’s a shambles.

[.Sean.]

Not a single person on here has stated the suspension rules for this competition... nor has anyone said 'oh i thought that was the case'....

Just another excuse to put the boot in.
It’s up to the supporters to recognise who is and isn’t on a suspension now 😂 maybe Lee Johnson will let us pick the team next

Whoever is responsible for this needs punted.

[SaulGoodman]

Unfortunately not as it’s just a points deduction presumably.

With any luck though we can be expelled.

Bummer, hopefully at the meeting Ron can tell one of the Spfl execs to **** off and make sure we do get expelled.

[HendoDelivered]

Concerning

[Northernhibee]

RG, IG and BK have had the reverse Midas touch since coming into the club, everything they’ve touched has turned to ****.

From 3rd in the league to this.

[Pretty Boy]

Not a single person on here has stated the suspension rules for this competition... nor has anyone said 'oh i thought that was the case'....

Just another excuse to put the boot in.

Not a single person on here is employed to do that job nor do they get the suspensions list sent through.

People aren't expected to do this from memory. All the data is available and should be checked and checked again

[H18 SFR]

Not a single person on here has stated the suspension rules for this competition... nor has anyone said 'oh i thought that was the case'....

Just another excuse to put the boot in.

Why didn’t you alert the club before the game?

[hibee-boys]

You do know Clyde will beat Falkirk now🙈😂

[MKHIBEE]

I like your positivity but the statement said it was a player that was suspended. Someone within the club wasn’t doing their job right.

I would imagine that the club would have been informed that the player was suspended. Perhaps somebody at the SPFL wasn’t doing their job right?

[SteveHFC]

Yep.

Will be a 3 0 win for morton

[Coco Bryce]

We have been charged, no one here knows for definite who the player is or the circumstances surrounding the case but people are wanting others to lose their jobs. The usual ****storm of people sticking the knife in at the earliest opportunity.

This doesn't go to court mate where we find out if guilty or not. It's clear as day we have broke the rules and will be punished.

You can't sugar coat this amateurish howler!!

[h185forever]

Just out of interest ..how many games has Rocky played ? ..and how many “cards” has he received in total ?

Surely part of the “management” planning for games is knowing who’s at risk of suspension and deciding when to risk a possible suspension for up and coming games.

It may be one persons ultimate responsibility to track, but surely more than one will be aware of the squads current disciplinary status, including the individual players’ themselves.

[SaulGoodman]

I would imagine that the club would have been informed that the player was suspended. Perhaps somebody at the SPFL wasn’t doing their job right?

Maybe they’re going to give us points?

[JamesHFC]

I’m assuming this is down to the new head of football operations? Dearie me. We are a ****ing mess.

[GlesgaeHibby]

How does this even happen? Presumably the SPFL email the club to say X player has been given a 1 game ban after picking up X number of bookings. This is then communicated directly to manager.

If that's the process then that is surely a sackable offence for whoever failed to communicate this to the management team.

[Widhibs]

The guy we brought in from Livingston had been doing the same role with them I’m sure. It would’ve been his responsibility to pick up on this. Amateur hour.

Definitely!

[marinello59]

Confirmed we have been charged for playing a suspended player last night. Wonder who it was

Club is a shambles

Well let’s hope it isn’t Rocky because then we will have accidentally signed him then accidentally played him……which would be impressive. :greengrin

[Coco Bryce]

I would imagine that the club would have been informed that the player was suspended. Perhaps somebody at the SPFL wasn’t doing their job right?

What?

The SPFL are pick the Hibs teams?

[hibsforeurope]

The salary is irrelevant, he would have known the salary and the job role before accepting the job.

The salary will reflect the calibre, experience and ultimately ability of applicants though.

[H18 SFR]

I would imagine that the club would have been informed that the player was suspended. Perhaps somebody at the SPFL wasn’t doing their job right?

It’s the SFA who maintain the disciplinary data regardless of the competition. It’s published daily. Onus on the club to access the data.

[Del Boy]

The club is a shambles from top to bottom. Amateur stuff.

[Billy Whizz]

Just out of interest ..how many games has Rocky played ? ..and how many “cards” has he received in total ?

Surely part of the “management” planning for games is knowing who’s at risk of suspension and deciding when to risk a possible suspension for up and coming games.

It may be one persons ultimate responsibility to track, but surely more than one will be aware of the squads current disciplinary status, including the individual players’ themselves.


2 bookings in the competition, which usually means a one match bam
https://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=105718

[Scouse Hibee]

Not a single person on here has stated the suspension rules for this competition... nor has anyone said 'oh i thought that was the case'....

Just another excuse to put the boot in.

Is that the same as saying not a single person on here has ever managed a professional football club so they have no right to criticise the manager?

[J-C]

Another **** up at Hibs, being run by a bunch of ****ing amateurs.

[BoomtownHibees]

Not a single person on here has stated the suspension rules for this competition... nor has anyone said 'oh i thought that was the case'....

Just another excuse to put the boot in.

Whit?

[Scouse Hibee]

The salary will reflect the calibre, experience and ultimately ability of applicants though.

So what, lay the blame on who ever is responsible for the recruitment?

[Steven79]

Is that the same as saying not a single person on here has ever managed a professional football club so they have no right to criticise the manager?Pretty much!

We can't even get the simple things right just now.

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[Northernhibee]

Well let’s hope it isn’t Rocky because then we will have accidentally signed him then accidentally played him……which would be impressive. :greengrin

😂😂😂

Genuinely couldn’t make it up.

[J-C]

Do we now forfeit last nights game?

[Billy Whizz]

So what, lay the blame on who ever is responsible for the recruitment?

Yup. Derek is only a kid at 21. This is not a job for someone inexperienced, although I believe he’s been working in football for a few years now

[McSwanky]

https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/media/1849/suspensions-for-players-in-mens-football-annex-c-section-4.pdf

Page 4, section 2:

Accumulation of two cautionable offences in theBetfred Cup (caution totals revert to zero prior tostart of Round 2 and prior to the start of semi-final rounds) - 1 match automatic suspension - Effective immediately to the next match in the same Specified Cup Competition.

Edit: But the SFA's own suspension page hasn't been updated since May by the looks of things.... https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish-fa/football-governance/disciplinary/player-suspensions/

[gbhibby]

2 bookings in the competition, which usually means a one match bam
https://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=105718
We had enough bams on the park last night😁
The club should know the rules no excuses here.

[SteveHFC]

The scary thing is it's not as if it's carried over and been missed.

It's literally our previous two games.

I hate to see people lose their jobs but this is pretty grim stuff.
No sympathy from me you are employed to do a job if you don't do it then you are leaving yourself wide open, things like this should be at top of your to do list before every game

[Spike Mandela]

Do we now forfeit last nights game?

Ayr united were awarded a 3-0 win when Elgin fielded a suspended player in this years competition.

[Northernhibee]

On the plus side if fielding a suspended player leads to a 3-0 loss we could do it against Rangers and Celtic to keep the score down.

[Moulin Yarns]

When it says we fielded an ineligible player I think that is a mistake, surely we fielded 11 negligible players last night. 🤔

[h185forever]

[QUOTE=Billy Whizz;7032989]2 bookings in the competition, which usually means a one match bam
https://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=105718[/QUOTET

Thanks Billy.

I wasn’t clear in asking but I meant total games for Hibs …using your link, he played 15 last season and received 7 yellow and 1 straight red. So far this season in the cup it’s played 4 and 2 yellows.

That’s a card every 2 games. Too many I fear, it needs schooled out of him.

[LewysGot2]

Yup. Derek is only a kid at 21. This is not a job for someone inexperienced, although I believe he’s been working in football for a few years now

Was it on a part time/voluntary basis at Livingston?

Wonder if the responsibilities there and here are different.

21 isn't a kid but it's definitely very young for someone to be dealing with the responsibilities of this role.

Will undoubtedly be feeling the heat of mucking up if it was indeed his oversight

[Glory Lurker]

I am beginning to despair at Hibs. If it wasn't for my ST, I'd have no inclination at all to go to ER for the foreseeable. Even at that if things don't improve smartish I will probably find other things to do instead.

[marinello59]

On the plus side if fielding a suspended player leads to a 3-0 loss we could do it against Rangers and Celtic to keep the score down.

:greengrin

[Tyler Durden]

The salary will reflect the calibre, experience and ultimately ability of applicants though.

It will reflect the going rate for people doing the same role at clubs of our size.

[the_ginger_hibee]

There is no excuse.

Suspension lists would have been shared before each round of fixtures.

Not only has our own internal logging of bookings/suspensions failed, we have not read & acted on, the suspension spreadsheet we probably received Monday / Tuesday. It's not even amateur hour, 99% of amateur clubs follow this week in and week out without issue - it's worse.

[marinello59]

Just out of interest ..how many games has Rocky played ? ..and how many “cards” has he received in total ?

Surely part of the “management” planning for games is knowing who’s at risk of suspension and deciding when to risk a possible suspension for up and coming games.

It may be one persons ultimate responsibility to track, but surely more than one will be aware of the squads current disciplinary status, including the individual players’ themselves.

As soon as Elgin were notified that they had breached the rules the person responsible put his hand up and apologised for it. Do we think that will happen here?

[CL0762]

Pathetic. Every supporter last night who attended should be given a full refund. Including anyone who purchased the game on Hibs tv.

Absolutely ****ing disgraceful.

[HibeeHibernian4]

Have slowlt turned into the Hearts that existed between Neilson leaving and returning. laughing stock.

[hibsforeurope]

So what, lay the blame on who ever is responsible for the recruitment?

If you pay peanuts...

[h185forever]

I still feel there is a collective responsibility here ……not just a scapegoat.

[SChibs]

Not to take away from the huge error the club have made but 2 bookings then a suspension is a bit ridiculous. A player booked in games 1 and 3 miss the same as a player booked twice in one game?

[Heisenberg]

Have slowlt turned into the Hearts that existed between Neilson leaving and returning. laughing stock.

We definitely have. Rafts of new players, going through managers, toxic atmosphere amongst the fans at games. Ron Gordon really needs to get a grip of this before it’s too late.

[WestStandWillie]

Petrie and/or Dempster wouldn't have let that happen.

Petrie can be called a lot of things but he was always on the ball

[Scorrie]

Well let’s hope it isn’t Rocky because then we will have accidentally signed him then accidentally played him……which would be impressive. :greengrin

Another first for Hibs!

[h185forever]

Petrie and/or Dempster wouldn't have let that happen.

Petrie can be called a lot of things but he was always on the ball


…never scored tho !

[supersauzee]

Surely got to be the last straw. This ron Gordon lives on cloud nine, his sons recruitment has been diabolical, he talks far too much for my liking. Saying we will do this and that yet we can't get something right that I do on a weekly basis for my amateur team 🤣😫

[Unseen work]

How has not one person picked up on this?

Manager, coach, football operations, even the players?

Can’t blame the Gordon’s for this.

[Chorley Hibee]

Yup. Derek is only a kid at 21. This is not a job for someone inexperienced, although I believe he’s been working in football for a few years now

A 21 year old laddie running our Football Operations Department.

If that isn't a damning indictment of the shambles behind the scenes at ER then I don't know what is.

Accidentally playing a player that we signed by accident! Even by Hibs standards - that sort of **** up will take some beating!

[H18 SFR]

How has not one person picked up on this?

Manager, coach, football operations, even the players?

Football operations or club secretary more specifically - their reMit.

[Hibs90]

Johnson saying the absence of a fourth official is amateur then this :greengrin

[H18 SFR]

Johnson saying the absence of a fourth official is amateur then this :greengrin

Fair point.

[Chip shop Joe]

What is actually happening at Hibs! We really are a complete shambles!

[GreenCastle]

Embarrassing us daily.

The club needs a reboot.

Some of the hiring of staff is shambolic and costing us severely.

How bad is this going to get ?

[WhileTheChief..]

This is BK taking the heat off LJ and the players - none of us are talking about the crap start to the season now :wink:

[Smartie]

This is inexcusable.

We're a ****ing shambles.

[Pretty Boy]

Imagine being the guy responsible for this when the email came through notifying Hibs of the breach. Then having to forward that on. Then waiting to be called in and grilled about it.

I've been there when I have cocked up at work (the most memorable being when I quoted a customer 25% discounted from cost price rather than list). It's a horrible feeling and in spite of it being the guys job, being the basics etc etc I still feel sorry for him.

If it is the guy from Livi he may well still be in his probationary period (assuming a standard 3 months) which means he is likely to be unemployed fairly soon.

[Real Emerald]

Petrie and/or Dempster wouldn't have let that happen.

Petrie can be called a lot of things but he was always on the ball

Yep, it’s called being professional, we’re miles away from the days of professionals at the club.

[GreenCastle]

Only positive being hopefully it won’t happen for a league game.

Imagine being close to relegation and getting points deducted.

[Callum_62]

Imagine being the guy responsible for this when the email came through notifying Hibs of the breach. Then having to forward that on. Then waiting to be called in and grilled about it.

I've been there when I have cocked up at work (the most memorable being when I quite a customer 25% discounted from cost price rather than list). It's a horrible feeling and in spite of it being the guys job, being the basics etc etc I still feel sorry for him.

If it is the guy from Livi he may well still be in his probationary period (assuming a standard 3 months) which means he is likely to be unemployed fairly soon.A post that deals with the human side

I congratulate you

Now, back to calling for everyone to lose there jobs

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[bringbackbenny]

Imagine being the guy responsible for this when the email came through notifying Hibs of the breach. Then having to forward that on. Then waiting to be called in and grilled about it.

I've been there when I have cocked up at work (the most memorable being when I quite a customer 25% discounted from cost price rather than list). It's a horrible feeling and in spite of it being the guys job, being the basics etc etc I still feel sorry for him.

If it is the guy from Livi he may well still be in his probationary period (assuming a standard 3 months) which means he is likely to be unemployed fairly soon.


yup, we've all been there but unfortunately (forgetting the fact that the team effectively knocked us out regardless) this type of error could have cost the club big money.

The internal processes should have been tighter and have a double check by another member of staff to ensure all the regulations, ineligibilities etc are accurate and informed to the Manager. Hopefully this will now be in place for future.

[Since452]

Amateur hour

[SlickShoes]

In the early rounds of the cup competitions, it is usually 3 yellows before a suspension. Obviously, this must not be the case for this cup now.

Someone has made a huge error in not catching this, but it's literally someone's job to cath this so I don't think it's something to use as a stick to beat Ron with.

[Waxy]

This isnt good

[Scorrie]

Does Morton now getting a 3-0 win harm Falkirk’s chances of winning the group?

[Chorley Hibee]

A post that deals with the human side

I congratulate you

Now, back to calling for everyone to lose there jobs

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My anger isn't with the young laddie, it's with the folk who thought a 21 year old was sufficiently experienced and qualified to be the head of the Football Operations Department.

Perhaps we were looking to add value to him and sell him on for a profit too.

Ron Gordon could do himself a favour and start taking some responsibility for the mess that is happening underneath him.

[McIntosh]

I was about to say this is amateurish but reconsidered that, because amateurs wouldn’t make this mistake. What it is, is negligence, and that negligence stems from key individuals at the club.

[loanheadhibby]

Imagine being the guy responsible for this when the email came through notifying Hibs of the breach. Then having to forward that on. Then waiting to be called in and grilled about it.

I've been there when I have cocked up at work (the most memorable being when I quite a customer 25% discounted from cost price rather than list). It's a horrible feeling and in spite of it being the guys job, being the basics etc etc I still feel sorry for him.

If it is the guy from Livi he may well still be in his probationary period (assuming a standard 3 months) which means he is likely to be unemployed fairly soon.

Been there, done it. Sick feeling in pit of stomach.

No one intends to make these mistakes. Feel sorry for whoever made the error. They’re not going to get much sleep tonight.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Only positive being hopefully it won’t happen for a league game.

Imagine being close to relegation and getting points deducted.

You wicked boy!😈

[Unseen work]

In the early rounds of the cup competitions, it is usually 3 yellows before a suspension. Obviously, this must not be the case for this cup now.

Someone has made a huge error in not catching this, but it's literally someone's job to cath this so I don't think it's something to use as a stick to beat Ron with.

Exactly, it has nothing to do with Ron.

People can say well he employs people and they’re right but Jesus.

Guys that take part in amateur football are able to do it so you can’t blame the person not having the knowledge or experience.

A huge oversight and mistake, whether that’s they thought it was 3 cards or not it’s really poor.

[LewysGot2]

My anger isn't with the young laddie, it's the with the folk who thought a 21 year old was sufficiently experienced and qualified to be the head of the Football Operations Department.

Perhaps Ron Gordon could start taking some responsibility for the mess that is happening underneath him.

Suspect, at the advertised salary, the applications wouldn't have been filled with sufficiently experienced people.

It was discussed at the time it was advertised as a post.

Wouldn't have happened under the previous regimes.

[CL0762]

Imagine being the guy responsible for this when the email came through notifying Hibs of the breach. Then having to forward that on. Then waiting to be called in and grilled about it.

I've been there when I have cocked up at work (the most memorable being when I quoted a customer 25% discounted from cost price rather than list). It's a horrible feeling and in spite of it being the guys job, being the basics etc etc I still feel sorry for him.

If it is the guy from Livi he may well still be in his probationary period (assuming a standard 3 months) which means he is likely to be unemployed fairly soon.

Yup, been there myself before and it’s an absolutely horrific feeling.

Stomach & arse collapsing in sync with each other.

Feel for the lad but in the same breath, that’s a huge mistake to make.

[Waxy]

We need fresh blood to oversee happenings at the club i think.

[cabbageandribs1875]

i long for the day we can get back to laughing at the pathetic amateurs that HoMFC used to be


hurry up and find that buyer Ron pal

[Pretty Boy]

Yup, been there myself before and it’s an absolutely horrific feeling.

Stomach & arse collapsing in sync with each other.

Feel for the lad but in the same breath, that’s a huge mistake to make.

Yep. Feel sorry for him but at the same time it's a monumental error to make.

It's his job to know the rules of the competition and his job to check the suspensions and ineligible list. Failing to do that has potentially cost us a place in the latter stages of the cup and with it a chunk of cash. The only thing that might save him is the fact the chances of us reaching the next round were so remote anyway that the damage was already done.

[sambajustice]

Not sure if it's been said already but if the game is voided and 3-0 or whatever to Morton then the fans who went last night should be given their money back.

[mcfly]

Not sure if it's been said already but if the game is voided and 3-0 or whatever to Morton then the fans who went last night should be given their money back.

🎣🎣🎣

[sambajustice]

🎣🎣🎣

I'm really not

[mcfly]

Club is a shambles at the moment and the chief exec appears to lack true leadership.

Bring back Leanne to be sort out the mess

[hibee-boys]

At least we can now focus on our league campaign😏

[itslegaltender]

That sick sensation in your stomach when you make a mistake like this in the workplace is not something you forget.

What this does show is that their is clearly a performance problem endemic at the club. There have been too many occurrences of bad decision making/mistakes in a short period of time. Its showing up at different levels from playing staff to office employees. There has been a big turnaround in players/staff over last 3 years, you could argue that all that has happened in just a symptom of that transition however, you need strong clear leadership during such a programme of change and this seems clearly missing at the moment. For me, this is down to Kensall. Gordon is the paymaster, Kensall is the one running the club.

We know he got booted out of Norwich for what was blamed on the one incident of bringing in dodgy sponsors against the ethos of the club, I would suggest there was much more to it than that.

[H18 SFR]

Not sure if it's been said already but if the game is voided and 3-0 or whatever to Morton then the fans who went last night should be given their money back.

I don’t want a penny back. Far rather the money went towards improving the team.

[scuttle]

Shambolic, unacceptable , amateurish, embarrassing .

[BroxburnHibee]

Imagine being the guy responsible for this when the email came through notifying Hibs of the breach. Then having to forward that on. Then waiting to be called in and grilled about it.

I've been there when I have cocked up at work (the most memorable being when I quoted a customer 25% discounted from cost price rather than list). It's a horrible feeling and in spite of it being the guys job, being the basics etc etc I still feel sorry for him.

If it is the guy from Livi he may well still be in his probationary period (assuming a standard 3 months) which means he is likely to be unemployed fairly soon.

Back in my cheffing days I was once asked to order 20 watermelons for a function. Accidentally ordered 200! :greengrin:greengrin:greengrin

That was an awkward day when they arrived. :greengrin Didn't even get a warning for it too :cb

[ShadesLongThrow]

Cecil Graham will be turning in his grave.

[coldingham hibs]

Pathetic. Every supporter last night who attended should be given a full refund. Including anyone who purchased the game on Hibs tv.

Absolutely ****ing disgraceful.

Especially when it buffered most of the game, having said that maybe that was a positive 🤔

[Vault Boy]

I wonder if all these work permit issues also belonging to the HoFO have caused the workload to be totally unmanageable without support. It might be a case of this issue being his responsibility, but not necessarily his ‘fault’ in its entirety.

Really feel for him.

[Oscar T Grouch]

Kinda glad we didn't win last night, this would have been much worse in that situation. I was hoping that leaving posting anything last night would help my outlook on everything but this is just another kick in the nuts from the club to the supporters. What slim hopes we had of qualifying are away due to an admin error, amateurish to say the least.

[McIntosh]

Cecil Graham will be turning in his grave. was just thinking that!!!

[green with envy]

If the fitba side was bad enough, this latest cock up is as embarrassing at anytime during my near 50 years in supporting the club.

[Scotty Leither]

Yup. Derek is only a kid at 21. This is not a job for someone inexperienced, although I believe he’s been working in football for a few years now

Is he in on a YTS?

[s.a.m]

Imagine being the guy responsible for this when the email came through notifying Hibs of the breach. Then having to forward that on. Then waiting to be called in and grilled about it.

I've been there when I have cocked up at work (the most memorable being when I quoted a customer 25% discounted from cost price rather than list). It's a horrible feeling and in spite of it being the guys job, being the basics etc etc I still feel sorry for him.

If it is the guy from Livi he may well still be in his probationary period (assuming a standard 3 months) which means he is likely to be unemployed fairly soon.

Yeah. Me too. Big mistake, but I feel bad if it's somebody young and inexperienced that's made it.


As soon as Elgin were notified that they had breached the rules the person responsible put his hand up and apologised for it. Do we think that will happen here?

What'll happen here is that the guy will head for Ron's office and he'll have to fight his way through a queue of people who've come forward this afternoon to say that, actually, it was their fault and only theirs and they accept that the only honourable option open to them is to immediately resign. He'll need to wait in line :greengrin

[cabbageandribs1875]

Rocky Bushiri



surely the club employs someone just to tally up his yellow cards

[SHODAN]

Not sure if it's been said already but if the game is voided and 3-0 or whatever to Morton then the fans who went last night should be given their money back.

Yup.

[Oscar T Grouch]

I wonder if all these work permit issues also belonging to the HoFO have caused the workload to be totally unmanageable without support. It might be a case of this issue being his responsibility, but not necessarily his ‘fault’ in its entirety.

Really feel for him.

I don't. Work permits require initial work from the club to apply, then it is a case of waiting and or chasing up. If you are head of football operations your job is to ensure everyone on the park is allowed to be there, if you mess that up, no matter your other duties you have failed in doing your job, you have let down every player that played legitimately last night, every supporter who came out to see the team. These are basics. In my job if I forget basics I will be hauled across hot coals. If my actions or lack thereof meant my bosses business suffers badly like losing a contract or getting put out a cup I'd get my jotters and escorted out the building.

[Scouse Hibee]

Not sure if it's been said already but if the game is voided and 3-0 or whatever to Morton then the fans who went last night should be given their money back.

We’re already losing enough money going out, I for one don’t want to take even more money from the club.

[SlickShoes]

That sick sensation in your stomach when you make a mistake like this in the workplace is not something you forget.

What this does show is that their is clearly a performance problem endemic at the club. There have been too many occurrences of bad decision making/mistakes in a short period of time. Its showing up at different levels from playing staff to office employees. There has been a big turnaround in players/staff over last 3 years, you could argue that all that has happened in just a symptom of that transition however, you need strong clear leadership during such a programme of change and this seems clearly missing at the moment. For me, this is down to Kensall. Gordon is the paymaster, Kensall is the one running the club.

We know he got booted out of Norwich for what was blamed on the one incident of bringing in dodgy sponsors against the ethos of the club, I would suggest there was much more to it than that.

Errors like this can also come from trying to do too much all at once, this rolls into why you can't change a whole team in one close season, why you can't just fire everyone and start again, the amount of work involved is huge and if you keep rebuilding everything all the time you never get anywhere.

Humans make mistakes, sometimes those mistakes come at terrible times.

[Vault Boy]

I don't. Work permits require initial work from the club to apply, then it is a case of waiting and or chasing up. If you are head of football operations your job is to ensure everyone on the park is allowed to be there, if you mess that up, no matter your other duties you have failed in doing your job, you have let down every player that played legitimately last night, every supporter who came out to see the team. These are basics. In my job if I forget basics I will be hauled across hot coals. If my actions or lack thereof meant my bosses business suffers badly like losing a contract or getting put out a cup I'd get my jotters and escorted out the building.

What you won’t have is hundreds of strangers discussing your professional integrity on various platforms online.

I don’t know how you couldn’t feel for what he’s going through just now. Just on a human level.

[GordonHFC]

What is the role of the guy we just hired who was at Falkirk?

[McSwanky]

Two things for me:

1. I'll not be asking for my money back, I paid to see Hibs play a full match against Morton, that's what I got. We all thought it meant something at the time, only now we realise it didn't. No reasonable case for a refund IMO.

2. Not that I'm excusing what's happened, but the fact that Elgin and Stranraer have also fallen foul of this rule would maybe suggest that maybe the suspension list isn't being sent out when it should? The liability is clearly on the club, but for it to happen to 3 clubs in the space of a few weeks seems.... odd....

All quite worrying though, we seem to be ***** on the pitch and off the pitch so far this season.

[SChibs]

Two things for me:

1. I'll not be asking for my money back, I paid to see Hibs play a full match against Morton, that's what I got. We all thought it meant something at the time, only now we realise it didn't. No reasonable case for a refund IMO.

2. Not that I'm excusing what's happened, but the fact that Elgin and Stranraer have also fallen foul of this rule would maybe suggest that maybe the suspension list isn't being sent out when it should? The liability is clearly on the club, but for it to happen to 3 clubs in the space of a few weeks seems.... odd....

All quite worrying though, we seem to be ***** on the pitch and off the pitch so far this season.

Having seen the suspension lists published by the SPFL it appears they too made an error because there was no Hibs player mentioned.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Not defending anyone without knowing the full facts but surely the following is relevant.

1. Rocky was shown a yellow on Sunday.
2. The referee is required to submit his report to the SFA with details, including confirmation of cautions.When was this received by SFA
3. Until confirmation is receiced by SFA no notice of suspension can be issued.
4. The SFA only issue such notices to players and clubs weekly [see their own website). When was this weeks notifications made to the players and clubs? Today?
5. The SFA have not posted any lists since the end of last season. Did someone forget?

There may be more mitigating factors at play here but the SFA's role in issuing the required confirmation of the cautions is open to question so lets here the full story before we hang the young guy out to dry if he was following the SFA published protocol.

[lucky]

If the team had done it job in the park and got 4 wins then this wouldn’t really matter. But the fact is we appear to as crap of the pitch as on it. If the 21 year old guy has mucked up and is also involved in the delay of work permits then he needs help to do his job but why would Hibs give someone so inexperienced such a prominent role with our club.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

A story about a Hibs player being booked more than once and its' not about Porto. That has to be a major positive?

No doubt the Daily Record and Sportsound will be outraged.

[TheHarpy76]

What can you do but laugh?

I’ve had enough of this season already and we haven’t even kicked a ball in the league yet. 😂😂

Seriously, how the hell did someone at the club not pick up on this. There’s no point in us even putting up a defence. We’re bang to rites here.

[Stuart93]

We’re a ****ing circus

[xqnq1875]

We’re getting the absolute pished ripped out of us on twitter by every teams fans at the moment, it’s some laugh eh


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[Scorrie]

Back in my cheffing days I was once asked to order 20 watermelons for a function. Accidentally ordered 200! :greengrin:greengrin:greengrin

That was an awkward day when they arrived. :greengrin Didn't even get a warning for it too :cb

That has made me laugh!

[Scorrie]

If the team had done it job in the park and got 4 wins then this wouldn’t really matter. But the fact is we appear to as crap of the pitch as on it. If the 21 year old guy has mucked up and is also involved in the delay of work permits then he needs help to do his job but why would Hibs give someone so inexperienced such a prominent role with our club.

Does this not reflect the salary though? I seem to recall that when the job was advertised, the salary for a post of this importance was pretty poor

[marinello59]

Two things for me:

1. I'll not be asking for my money back, I paid to see Hibs play a full match against Morton, that's what I got. We all thought it meant something at the time, only now we realise it didn't. No reasonable case for a refund IMO.

2. Not that I'm excusing what's happened, but the fact that Elgin and Stranraer have also fallen foul of this rule would maybe suggest that maybe the suspension list isn't being sent out when it should? The liability is clearly on the club, but for it to happen to 3 clubs in the space of a few weeks seems.... odd....

All quite worrying though, we seem to be ***** on the pitch and off the pitch so far this season.

Surely all other clubs should take what happened at Elgin and Stranraer as a warning to be extra careful? The guy responsible at Elgin put his hand up straightaway and apologised which suggests this is down to the clubs to get right.

[Brightside]

Does this not reflect the salary though? I seem to recall that when the job was advertised, the salary for a post of this importance was pretty poor

You would get more working in McDonalds.

[McSwanky]

Surely all other clubs should take what happened at Elgin and Stranraer as a warning to be extra careful? The guy responsible at Elgin put his hand up straightaway and apologised which suggests this is down to the clubs to get right.

I'm not disputing the fact that the ultimate responsibility is with the club, but it seems that the processes aren't exactly running smoothly at the SFA either. The club's biggest mistake here may be relying on others to provide them with accurate information.

[500miles]

Johnson saying the absence of a fourth official is amateur then this :greengrin


Not defending anyone without knowing the full facts but surely the following is relevant.

1. Rocky was shown a yellow on Sunday.
2. The referee is required to submit his report to the SFA with details, including confirmation of cautions.When was this received by SFA
3. Until confirmation is receiced by SFA no notice of suspension can be issued.
4. The SFA only issue such notices to players and clubs weekly [see their own website). When was this weeks notifications made to the players and clubs? Today?
5. The SFA have not posted any lists since the end of last season. Did someone forget?

There may be more mitigating factors at play here but the SFA's role in issuing the required confirmation of the cautions is open to question so lets here the full story before we hang the young guy out to dry if he was following the SFA published protocol.

Do hibs get a copy of the ref's report after the match?

[snedzuk]

We gained a point last night which is likely to be taken away now with a 3-0 win awarded to Morton. Could still affect us in not going through in 2nd place.

It would mean that with 4 games played, Bonnyrigg Rose could leapfrog us in their last game.

[Oscar T Grouch]

What you won’t have is hundreds of strangers discussing your professional integrity on various platforms online.

I don’t know how you couldn’t feel for what he’s going through just now. Just on a human level.

I think it is an irrelevance who is discussing it, he works in an industry that is like a fishbowl and in any case it is his professionalism that is in question in this case and given who it effects he has to expect to be discussed at the very least by the fans.
If it is down to him not being trained properly then of course I have sympathy and empathy for the guy and there is no way he should lose his job, the person who is responsible for training the guy does, but not him. If it is down to him making a mistake despite him being trained properly then he has to face the consequences of his actions. It doesn't mean I don't feel for the guy, we all make mistakes but this particular mistake has severe consequences for a lot of people, imagine if we had sneaked a last minute winner last night and then this came out, would you be as understanding then?

[hibbyfraelibby]

Do hibs get a copy of the ref's report after the match?

He send the report direct to SFA not the club

[500miles]

He send the report direct to SFA not the club

Then we shouldn't be punished if they don't hand us an official recording of bookings. That's madness.

[cabbageandribs1875]

We’re getting the absolute pished ripped out of us on twitter by every teams fans at the moment, it’s some laugh eh


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and it's well deserved

[Not In The Know]

Petrie and/or Dempster wouldn't have let that happen.

Petrie can be called a lot of things but he was always on the ball

but they would let advertising boards be left up round the pitch that hadn’t been paid for years.

[LewysGot2]

You would get more working in McDonalds.

You get over £35k p/a working at McDs?

It's a decent wage for a 21 year old but the job needs experience and the issue is nobody experienced would move to a job for that money, in a job with this kind of responsibility and public accountability

[green day]

Then we shouldn't be punished if they don't hand us an official recording of bookings. That's madness.

Apparently suspension lists are only issued every Friday.

Rocky got booked at the weekend and no suspension list issued ahead of midweek games.

It's our responsibility to know a 2nd booking means he is out (although apparently the live list appears on some internet thing the clubs have with SFA).

Basically, we ****ed it.

[Antifa Hibs]

You would get more working in McDonalds.

It's £30k to £35k post. The job advert is on the SFA site if you want to find out.



Regarding refunds I'd gladly take one. £12 refund plus £3 of my own money and I could treat myself to a pie n Bovril at the derby.

[500miles]

Apparently suspension lists are only issued every Friday.

Rocky got booked at the weekend and no suspension list issued ahead of midweek games.

It's our responsibility to know a 2nd booking means he is out (although apparently the live list appears on some internet thing the clubs have with SFA).

Basically, we ****ed it.

That's fine if we're provided with a official communication after the match or before the next match, but how many times do you see the card go up in a cluster of players and not know who it was aimed at? That's asking for an error.

[500miles]

but they would let advertising boards be left up round the pitch that hadn’t been paid for years.

That's not a mistake, that's making it look like our advertising is in demand.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Apparently suspension lists are only issued every Friday.

Rocky got booked at the weekend and no suspension list issued ahead of midweek games.

It's our responsibility to know a 2nd booking means he is out (although apparently the live list appears on some internet thing the clubs have with SFA).

Basically, we ****ed it.

But how do you confirm who has been booked? How many times do you see cards flashed toward a group of players and not know who got the card. Until the ref confirms you don't know.

There is a reason why in league games your suspension normally starts more than one match after you breach the limit.

[donno]

He send the report direct to SFA not the clubThe manager, or club secretary will sign a sheet made out by the referee, showing all players submitted by each club, who played, the result, and who was booked, at the end of the match. So someone in the club will know.
In my Sunday league days, I was club secretary for my team. I would sign this at the end of the match. If a player was sent off, you could appeal it at the monthly meeting if you wanted, so they could keep playing.
If we had anyone who had become suspended from the previous Sunday, I would get a letter from the Worcestershire FA telling me who it was, and what dates they were suspended for. This was before the days of email, and would usually arrive on the Wednesday.

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[big gogs]

and it's well deserved
I wonder if the person that ballsed it up is still working at the club,Ron does not like bad publicity.last night was bad enough for him,and for the rest of us.

[donno]

With all of the goings on at Easter Road since the end of the season. I suspect that RG has hired Craig Levein as director of football, and just not told anyone!

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[Pretty Boy]

But how do you confirm who has been booked? How many times do you see cards flashed toward a group of players and not know who got the card. Until the ref confirms you don't know.

There is a reason why in league games your suspension normally starts one match after you breach the limit.

A representative from each club, usually the club secretary, signs what is essentially a preliminary/abridged referees report after the game before the ref leaves the stadium. It details bookings, line ups, red cards etc etc. Any queries or discrepancies can be highlighted and initialed at that point.

Hibs would or at least should have been well aware Rocky had been booked twice. If the ref failed to produce said information on game day we should have queried it. If he did and we have failed to keep a note of accumulated bookings etc then that is still our **** up regardless of whether the official list was published or otherwise. If there is any doubt you can seek clarification from the relevant governing body.

[Jones28]

Laughable. Absolutely laughable.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Laughing stock.

[scuttle]

LJ must be relieved at this news as it takes the heat off him and the team after last nights shambles

[Joe6-2]

How have we come to this? Absolute joke

[Northernhibee]

LJ must be relieved at this news as it takes the heat off him and the team after last nights shambles

I suspect that he’ll be angry that he’s been given a massive rebuilding job and has incompetence all around him.

[hibbyfraelibby]

The manager, or club secretary will sign a sheet made out by the referee, showing all players submitted by each club, who played, the result, and who was booked, at the end of the match. So someone in the club will know.
In my Sunday league days, I was club secretary for my team. I would sign this at the end of the match. If a player was sent off, you could appeal it at the monthly meeting if you wanted, so they could keep playing.
If we had anyone who had become suspended from the previous Sunday, I would get a letter from the Worcestershire FA telling me who it was, and what dates they were suspended for. This was before the days of email, and would usually arrive on the Wednesday.

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This is not a Sunday League and that is not what happens after an SPFL or Scottish Cup match though. Nor is it an FA issue but an SFA one.

[NC1875]

Remember the good old days when Hearts were a shambles and we all pissed ourselves as they went from one disaster to another.

We’ve now swapped places and I wouldn’t bat an eyelid if Ron Gordon the joker were to leave tomorrow.

We are an absolute laughing stock and it’s all happening on his watch.

[Scotty Leither]

If the team had done it job in the park and got 4 wins then this wouldn’t really matter. But the fact is we appear to as crap of the pitch as on it. If the 21 year old guy has mucked up and is also involved in the delay of work permits then he needs help to do his job but why would Hibs give someone so inexperienced such a prominent role with our club.

“Why” we gave it to him was that he probably came cheap.

[Onion]

I suspect that he’ll be angry that he’s been given a massive rebuilding job and has incompetence all around him.

Then LJ should have done a little bit of homework before signing up. The shambles was there for all to see in public last season, not as if he did know of the incompetents. Have zero sympathy for LJ if this has come as a shock to him. The mess needed sorting out, but it just carries on.

[mcohibs]

Not sure if it's been said already but if the game is voided and 3-0 or whatever to Morton then the fans who went last night should be given their money back.

Why? We paid to watch a football match and that's what we got. You don't pay for the result, you pay for the match.

Nadal withdrew from Wimbledon in the semis. Should those that watched him in the quarters get a refund?

[donno]

This is not a Sunday League and that is not what happens after an SPFL or Scottish Cup match though. Nor is it an FA issue but an SFA one.It's the same principle, but on a larger scale.
The SFA and FA will adhere to a set of rules drawn up by Uefa, and these rules will perculate down to the affiliated Fa's below them.

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[hibbyfraelibby]

It's the same principle, but on a larger scale.
The SFA and FA will adhere to a set of rules drawn up by Uefa, and these rules will perculate down to the affiliated Fa's below them.

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This is direct from the SFA themselves

Player Suspensions
Cautionable offences

The Scottish FA’s Disciplinary and Judicial Services records cautionable offences reported by referees and confirms to players, via their clubs, the cautionable offences recorded against them and the total number of cautionable offences recorded against them to date.


Like I said the protocol in Scotland is the SFA confirm. So when did the SFA confirm?

[Turkish Green]

I am so pissed off. It is one thing to be unable to field players if their permit paperwork is still requiring completion but to field a player who received 2 yellow cards in previous 2 games. Mismanagement, not the players fault.

When will all this unprofessionalism end. Thankfully we are still in pre-season and LJ has time to fix.

[JimBHibees]

Not a great start for him but it's a hell of a task list and responsibility he's got considering he's on not much more than living wage.

How do you know what he is on?

[JimBHibees]

I'm a little surprised that none of the mgmt team questioned it. But it would be the job of the Head of Footballing Operations - Derek White - to give them this information from game to game.

We put Rocky's contract extension down to the gap in that capacity. We've then brought this guy in and he's had this massive failure in month one by the looks of it.

Is that true? Never heard that. It wouldn't be a football operations guy negotiating loan contracts you wouldn't have thought.

[Ozyhibby]

I am so pissed off. It is one thing to be unable to field players if their permit paperwork is still requiring completion but to field a player who received 2 yellow cards in previous 2 games. Mismanagement, not the players fault.

When will all this unprofessionalism end. Thankfully we are still in pre-season and LJ has time to fix.

We are not in pre-season. We have just been knocked out a cup.


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[overdrive]

Is that true? Never heard that. It wouldn't be a football operations guy negotiating loan contracts you wouldn't have thought.

I would have thought it would have been a combination of football ops and recruitment communicating with each other if there was a clause in the contract whereby a new contract was triggered if a certain number of games was played by a player and then tell the manager "hey, you know how we discussed that we don't want this player next season, well we better stop playing them or we will have to take him on"

[Billy Whizz]

How do you know what he is on?

Jim, the job and its responsibilities were published on various sites
A massive job. Does the lad have anyone reporting into him, or does he do everything. I hope we support him, not long started, and maybe not hand a proper handover
This role has been vacant for a few months since Finlay Stark left

[Tyler Durden]

I would have thought it would have been a combination of football ops and recruitment communicating with each other if there was a clause in the contract whereby a new contract was triggered if a certain number of games was played by a player and then tell the manager "hey, you know how we discussed that we don't want this player next season, well we better stop playing them or we will have to take him on"

:agree:

[Ronniekirk]

It’s symptomatic of how the club is currently being mismanaged
We don’t appear to be on a good place just now on any level apart from the Development Team

[04Sauzee]

Seen this on twitter courtesy of @fitbatweets and admittedly it made me smile

https://i.ibb.co/N3X0zRd/20220721-160652.jpg (https://ibb.co/mBmn7pV)

[JohnM1875]

Seen this on twitter courtesy of @fitbatweets and admittedly it made me smile

https://i.ibb.co/N3X0zRd/20220721-160652.jpg (https://ibb.co/mBmn7pV)

That is really funny to be fair.

[JimBHibees]

It's £30k to £35k post. The job advert is on the SFA site if you want to find out.



Regarding refunds I'd gladly take one. £12 refund plus £3 of my own money and I could treat myself to a pie n Bovril at the derby.

Seems reasonable money for what in effect is an admin role. Assuming he was doing the same role at his previous club. Shame for the guy if indeed it was his error however you would assume others in the club should also have been aware of two yellows meaning a suspension. Shocker of a mistake to be fair and the fallout would have been much worse if we had strollled the group as we should have.

[Hibernia&Alba]

How have we come to this? Absolute joke


I don't think Hibs can shock me any longer. The most I could manage upon opening the thread was a wee shake of the heid. If you had to guess the one club that would do such a thing....

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Seen this on twitter courtesy of @fitbatweets and admittedly it made me smile

https://i.ibb.co/N3X0zRd/20220721-160652.jpg (https://ibb.co/mBmn7pV)

[emoji1787]


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[He's here!]

We're clearly a shambles both on and off the pitch.

[JimBHibees]

Jim, the job and its responsibilities were published on various sites
A massive job. Does the lad have anyone reporting into him, or does he do everything. I hope we support him, not long started, and maybe not hand a proper handover
This role has been vacant for a few months since Finlay Stark left

While accepting that knowing who is and who isn't suspended is an absolute key part of that job. Not sure I would be trying to excuse that to be honest.

[JimBHibees]

LJ must be relieved at this news as it takes the heat off him and the team after last nights shambles

Don't think it takes the heat off anyone at the club to be honest

[truehibernian]

Owner - Absent
CEO - AWOL
Club Administrators - Embarrassment
Recruitment Team - Failing
Social Media Team - Amateur
New Manager - Pressured
Players - Underperforming
Supporters - Dwindling
Club - Shambles

My thoughts on my club right now. There’s some right good people employed by the club, and who volunteer their valuable time - and the above are failing them and making them a laughing stock, as much as the support.

I’m not normally ‘militant’ by nature but we need Ron out of the club as soon as possible. If there was a buyer or potential buyers when you raised it in the podcast, show your hand Ron, who were/are they? Was it a credible offer? What’s their background?

[SlickShoes]

Owner - Absent
CEO - AWOL
Club Administrators - Embarrassment
Recruitment Team - Failing
Social Media Team - Amateur
New Manager - Pressured
Players - Underperforming
Supporters - Dwindling
Club - Shambles

My thoughts on my club right now. There’s some right good people employed by the club, and who volunteer their valuable time - and the above are failing them and making them a laughing stock, as much as the support.

I’m not normally ‘militant’ by nature but we need Ron out of the club as soon as possible. If there was a buyer or potential buyers when you raised it in the podcast, show your hand Ron, who were/are they? Was it a credible offer? What’s their background?

How is he absent and BK AWOL? please explain

[neil7908]

Owner - Absent
CEO - AWOL
Club Administrators - Embarrassment
Recruitment Team - Failing
Social Media Team - Amateur
New Manager - Pressured
Players - Underperforming
Supporters - Dwindling
Club - Shambles

My thoughts on my club right now. There’s some right good people employed by the club, and who volunteer their valuable time - and the above are failing them and making them a laughing stock, as much as the support.

I’m not normally ‘militant’ by nature but we need Ron out of the club as soon as possible. If there was a buyer or potential buyers when you raised it in the podcast, show your hand Ron, who were/are they? Was it a credible offer? What’s their background?

There must be an acronym in their somewhere...

[theonlywayisup]

Owner - Absent
CEO - AWOL
Club Administrators - Embarrassment
Recruitment Team - Failing
Social Media Team - Amateur
New Manager - Pressured
Players - Underperforming
Supporters - Dwindling
Club - Shambles

My thoughts on my club right now. There’s some right good people employed by the club, and who volunteer their valuable time - and the above are failing them and making them a laughing stock, as much as the support.

I’m not normally ‘militant’ by nature but we need Ron out of the club as soon as possible. If there was a buyer or potential buyers when you raised it in the podcast, show your hand Ron, who were/are they? Was it a credible offer? What’s their background?

Embarrassing! If this was any other football club, we'd be laughing our heads off. But the jokes on us.

[greenginger]

Nobody seems to have known anything about this two yellow cards and you miss a game in the league cup sections.

I would have thought the local press and the stats counters on here would have been aware of Rockys two bookings but nobody suggested it would lead to a suspension.

Not excusing the Club in any way, it’s there job to know , but the lack of information on this rule is weird.

I wonder if any other club has had a player with two bookings and have removed said player from the squad for their next fixture.

[PaulSmith]

Nobody seems to have known anything about this two yellow cards and you miss a game in the league cup sections.

I would have thought the local press and the stats counters on here would have been aware of Rockys two bookings but nobody suggested it would lead to a suspension.

Not excusing the Club in any way, it’s there job to know , but the lack of information on this rule is weird.

I wonder if any other club has had a player with two bookings and have removed said player from the squad for their next fixture.

It’s the clubs responsibilities to understand the rules of the competition, there’s literally nothing more important for the Head of Football Operations to do. The rules are shared with clubs and available online.

[truehibernian]

How is he absent and BK AWOL? please explain

All you need to do is look at the crucial times they should have been front and centre and weren’t……or waited weeks before coming forward.

Jack Ross sacking, pre and post cup final.
Derby defeats back to back and Maloney being sacked.
Questionable sponsors
Rocky signing (mess)
Paul McGinn situation (mess)
League Cup results and admin fiasco (mess)

Just very recent examples.

Ron has delegated from afar but he pulls the trigger. BK may have done a Zoom call with select fans and may have engaged fans in Portugal. But he’s CEO and he’s overseen all of the above and hasn’t been up front and centre about things as and when they’re rightly questioned - hence (for me), absent and awol fits.

Leeann was able to read the room perfectly and was more visible, honest for want of a better phrase, and connected to the support. She ‘got’ Hibs. Do you really think or get the impression Kensall does - in the same vein?

[Since90+2]

This is genuinely embarrassing. A sackable offence for whoever is responsible.

Behave.

It's an administrative error and a fairly big one, but everyone makes errors at their work.

[worcesterhibby]

Leeann was able to read the room perfectly and was more visible, honest for want of a better phrase, and connected to the support. She ‘got’ Hibs. Do you really think or get the impression Kensall does - in the same vein?

I liked some of the stuff Leeann did, but she had us drawing with the likes of Morton and getting beat by Falkirk every month for years in the Championship...she never managed to secure a shirt sponsor during her entire reign and we spent more time in the Championship than in the Premiership....yea...great days :confused:

[Since90+2]

Owner - Absent
CEO - AWOL
Club Administrators - Embarrassment
Recruitment Team - Failing
Social Media Team - Amateur
New Manager - Pressured
Players - Underperforming
Supporters - Dwindling
Club - Shambles

My thoughts on my club right now. There’s some right good people employed by the club, and who volunteer their valuable time - and the above are failing them and making them a laughing stock, as much as the support.

I’m not normally ‘militant’ by nature but we need Ron out of the club as soon as possible. If there was a buyer or potential buyers when you raised it in the podcast, show your hand Ron, who were/are they? Was it a credible offer? What’s their background?

We've sold about 11,500 season tickets which historically for us is quite good. Support isn't dwindling (yet).

[Tambo]

Yikes just seen the news and unfortunately we are now the banter club of Scotland.

How can something so simple likes this go missed ffs

More red flags from behind the scenes at the running of our football club but we need to stick together as fans.