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He's here!
31-07-2022, 07:56 PM
No arguments about that but i doubt very much if womans football in this country will get much of a boost, financial or otherwise. Huge boost for England though. You could well find the big media channels ploughing their money into womens football to the detriment of the game uo here.

I'm talking about the UK as a whole. There's been a feel good factor about this tournament that will hopefully encourage girls across the nation to take up a sport - not necessarily just football - after witnessing such a positive endorsement of women's sport.

Sure, investment will be an issue in Scotland but clubs are moving in the right direction and we can play our part by going along to lend support to the Hibs girls. Anyone who hasn't previously done so will be pleasantly surprised by the standard.

Mcbizz1998
31-07-2022, 07:57 PM
“After 56 years of hurt it’s finally come home”.

Purleese.

J

[emoji23] they don’t believe that. Surely?

cannastar
31-07-2022, 07:57 PM
well done england really good tournament refreshing attitude from all teams some cracking goals and build up play 87 thousand attendance for the final and entertained for every minute of it.

Lancs Harp
31-07-2022, 07:59 PM
The WPL will grow enormously now. TV will love the huge crowds that will watch the manchesters/liverpool/chelsea etc. They could start pulling in crowds of 30k plus every week. Compare that to the mens game up here. I fear the money coming our way could drop even further.

The average WSL league last season was just a shade over 2000. Today will be landmark for womens football on these Isles in particularly England but theres still a long way to go

Betty Boop
31-07-2022, 07:59 PM
A suitably atrocious winning goal.

Brilliant goal celebration tho ! :top marks

uwxm07
31-07-2022, 08:00 PM
What's Gabby Logan doing being happy? She's Welsh with a Scottish husband. 😀😀

British ? United Kingdom and all that ? Like it or not we are still British.
I was very pleased to cheer on the ladies to success and my ( English ) wife was ecstatic. It’s a different game than mens football as the physicality is much less but they were the best team and deserved their win .
Always support any UK team in Olympics/cricket -In fact anything unless it’s against a specific Scotland team .
I guess I’m just one of the majority living here.

uwxm07
31-07-2022, 08:02 PM
Brilliant goal celebration tho ! :top marks

And well worth the booking -I guess the Nike sponsorship deal will help 😂😂

007
31-07-2022, 08:04 PM
British ? United Kingdom and all that ? Like it or not we are still British.
I was very pleased to cheer on the ladies to success and my ( English ) wife was ecstatic. It’s a different game than mens football as the physicality is much less but they were the best team and deserved their win .
Always support any UK team in Olympics/cricket -In fact anything unless it’s against a specific Scotland team .
I guess I’m just one of the majority living here.

You've maybe read my post in insolation and not in context of other posts on this thread.

He's here!
31-07-2022, 08:06 PM
The WPL will grow enormously now. TV will love the huge crowds that will watch the manchesters/liverpool/chelsea etc. They could start pulling in crowds of 30k plus every week. Compare that to the mens game up here. I fear the money coming our way could drop even further.

I've watched women's football for a few years now (mostly Hibs, Scotland and a couple of local teams) and I was delighted to see the Euros prove such a success. On present evidence I'd be as likely to tune into a WPL game as a Scottish men's game. What struck me about flicking through the Sportscene highlights this weekend was not the football in show but the swathes of empty seats (whole empty stands in some cases). The product just ain't great.

uwxm07
31-07-2022, 08:06 PM
No arguments about that but i doubt very much if womans football in this country will get much of a boost, financial or otherwise. Huge boost for England though. You could well find the big media channels ploughing their money into womens football to the detriment of the game uo here.
All depends how you define “this country”.
Igo with the definition on my passport

danhibees1875
31-07-2022, 08:06 PM
No arguments about that but i doubt very much if womans football in this country will get much of a boost, financial or otherwise. Huge boost for England though. You could well find the big media channels ploughing their money into womens football to the detriment of the game uo here.

It won't be immediate but I think this should have inspired. Little girls throughout Scotland with no/limited interest in football/sports can see that 90k people show up to watch the game and are interested and passionate about it.

He's here!
31-07-2022, 08:08 PM
British ? United Kingdom and all that ? Like it or not we are still British.
I was very pleased to cheer on the ladies to success and my ( English ) wife was ecstatic. It’s a different game than mens football as the physicality is much less but they were the best team and deserved their win .
Always support any UK team in Olympics/cricket -In fact anything unless it’s against a specific Scotland team .
I guess I’m just one of the majority living here.

100% agree with all of that.

uwxm07
31-07-2022, 08:14 PM
You've maybe read my post in insolation and not in context of other posts on this thread.
Apologies I just read one of your earlier post about turning the volume down - I suspect we would agree on more than my initial response would suggest

He's here!
31-07-2022, 08:18 PM
A suitably atrocious winning goal.

No such thing as an atrocious winning goal, especially one of that magnitude.

Personally I thought it was a cracker - a real 'get in' moment of utter determination. As for the England opener, the composure of the finish (not to mention her first touch) was top drawer.

Bristolhibby
31-07-2022, 08:20 PM
I'd much rather this "came home" than one of the men's tournaments. There's only a handful of good women teams. England being one of them. Always a big chance they would win this

Oh don’t get me wrong, I agree. I don’t really care.

It was just the media kidding on this this means as much as actually winning the Euros. Like the “56 years of hurt” has been erased by this win in the woman’s game.

It doesn’t.

J

Bristolhibby
31-07-2022, 08:21 PM
[emoji23] they don’t believe that. Surely?

Literally said by the interviewer to one of the England players after the game.

I kid you not.

J

whiskyhibby
31-07-2022, 08:22 PM
British ? United Kingdom and all that ? Like it or not we are still British.
I was very pleased to cheer on the ladies to success and my ( English ) wife was ecstatic. It’s a different game than mens football as the physicality is much less but they were the best team and deserved their win .
Always support any UK team in Olympics/cricket -In fact anything unless it’s against a specific Scotland team .
I guess I’m just one of the majority living here.

completely agree, we’ll done England ladies, great result

Still Smiling
31-07-2022, 08:23 PM
It won't be immediate but I think this should have inspired. Little girls throughout Scotland with no/limited interest in football/sports can see that 90k people show up to watch the game and are interested and passionate about it.media hype.

DIXIHIBS
31-07-2022, 08:26 PM
All depends how you define “this country”.
Igo with the definition on my passport

I define this country as Scotland. England just won the tournament...not UK. That okay?

Bristolhibby
31-07-2022, 08:30 PM
I define this country as Scotland. England just won the tournament...not UK. That okay?

Yip, football wise we are two separate countries who happen to live on the same island.

Also our closest rivals. I want them to lose at tiddlywinks.

J

e2los
31-07-2022, 08:30 PM
It won't be immediate but I think this should have inspired. Little girls throughout Scotland with no/limited interest in football/sports can see that 90k people show up to watch the game and are interested and passionate about it.

Whatever we wanted the result to be, I'm in complete agreement that this has been a very positive tournament for women's football (and other sports), could well be a pivoting point.

Aside from the commentary, the end of game interviews from the players can't do anything but inspire younger women into sport.

Very positive.

uwxm07
31-07-2022, 08:47 PM
I define this country as Scotland. England just won the tournament...not UK. That okay?
Not really -it says I’m British on my passport so that means a United Kingdom

dalkeith stu
31-07-2022, 08:56 PM
With the BBC already pumping £15m a season into the WSL this can only be bad news for the Scottish game!! Links to SPFL scores and news is already pushed below WSL links on their app!!

DIXIHIBS
31-07-2022, 08:58 PM
Not really -it says I’m British on my passport so that means a United Kingdom

Im not getting into a political discussion as this is a football forum and in a football sense this country (assuming you live noth of the border) is scotland. There is no UK football team at the euros...but you know that.

Lancs Harp
31-07-2022, 09:01 PM
Yip, football wise we are two separate countries who happen to live on the same island.

Also our closest rivals. I want them to lose at tiddlywinks.

J

I get that mate. Being English ive got a ten foot Teofilo Cubillas statue in my back garden. Next to my David Gray monument 😄

danhibees1875
31-07-2022, 09:02 PM
No such thing as an atrocious winning goal, especially one of that magnitude.

Personally I thought it was a cracker - a real 'get in' moment of utter determination. As for the England opener, the composure of the finish (not to mention her first touch) was top drawer.

Watching it back and there's a lot to be admired in the goal actually. It wasn't as Hollywood as the first one but she does really well.

In a good position as the ball goes over and comes back, great strength to then body defender 1 out the way and get her shot away, focus to be alive to the rebound, and composure to tuck that away (through the legs). She does everything she's meant to do and she gets the goal she deserves for doing so.

I hope Doidge was taking notes, that's the sort of goal he's on the team for and I'll take it next Sunday. :aok:

Just_Jimmy
31-07-2022, 09:07 PM
I said they'd win it from the start.

They deserved it.

Superb final and everything they said is true... the woman's game is about to explode.

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WeeRussell
31-07-2022, 09:13 PM
Not really -it says I’m British on my passport so that means a United Kingdom

😂😂 When your passport said you were part of Europe would you count any team that wins the euros as your own?

Steven79
31-07-2022, 09:23 PM
😂😂 When your passport said you were part of Europe would you count any team that wins the euros as your own?

:top marks

GreenCastle
31-07-2022, 09:25 PM
With the BBC already pumping £15m a season into the WSL this can only be bad news for the Scottish game!! Links to SPFL scores and news is already pushed below WSL links on their app!!

I don’t think this is true.

The money will filter down / across.

Ok the WSL and England women will continue to be strong but should put pressure on Scottish FA and others to not be left behind.

My worry is that Rangers and Celtic just dominate the womens game in Scotland and make it like the mens game not allowing others to win anything.

It was a brilliant tournament and an enjoyable final.

e2los
31-07-2022, 09:31 PM
Not really -it says I’m British on my passport so that means a United Kingdom

You might be ecstatic about being a subject of a failing state, but there are a few of us who would rather make our own future.

uwxm07
31-07-2022, 09:35 PM
It won't be immediate but I think this should have inspired. Little girls throughout Scotland with no/limited interest in football/sports can see that 90k people show up to watch the game and are interested and passionate about it.

👍

uwxm07
31-07-2022, 09:36 PM
You might be ecstatic about being a subject of a failing state, but there are a few of us who would rather make our own future.

And a majority of residents who disagree

Real Emerald
31-07-2022, 09:39 PM
They were absolutely brilliant all the way through the tournament and thoroughly deserved to win. I think it’s really inspiring despite the fact we’ll never hear the end of it, it was a memorable pivotal occasion for the woman’s game, where you like it or not. I’ve enjoyed it.

uwxm07
31-07-2022, 09:39 PM
😂😂 When your passport said you were part of Europe would you count any team that wins the euros as your own?

If they were playing against the US/China etc ?
Ryder cup anyone?

ekhibee
31-07-2022, 09:41 PM
I didn't watch any of it, but I was told the result against Spain was the result that really defined England. They're obviously a very good national team in European terms. I was also told that the USA are head and shoulders above anybody else in the women's game, but that's just what I've been told.

Dublin07
31-07-2022, 09:43 PM
And a majority of residents who disagree

I think you are on the wrong site. This is a hibs site for football talk. I think you should have searched for yoon.net or gammongammon.com.

DIXIHIBS
31-07-2022, 09:51 PM
If they were playing against the US/China etc ?
Ryder cup anyone?

Play US/China in euros? Time ye went to bed mate. Ryder Cup is a combined euro team v USA. The womans Euro 2022 is seperate football nations playing against each other...all UK teams seperate...hence England v NI earlier in the tournament.

uwxm07
31-07-2022, 10:29 PM
Brilliant. The best team in the tournament win it in the end.

The commentary summed it up, for women's football in the UK this is so much bigger than the women in the England squad today. It's year of sacrifice, ridicule, persecution and hard ****ing work rewarded in spectacular fashion.

Good on them and I hope it's a catalyst for something even bigger for women's football.

This 👍😎

He's here!
31-07-2022, 10:44 PM
Loved the disruption of the press conference 😀

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/62372849

He's here!
31-07-2022, 10:48 PM
Watching it back and there's a lot to be admired in the goal actually. It wasn't as Hollywood as the first one but she does really well.

In a good position as the ball goes over and comes back, great strength to then body defender 1 out the way and get her shot away, focus to be alive to the rebound, and composure to tuck that away (through the legs). She does everything she's meant to do and she gets the goal she deserves for doing so.

I hope Doidge was taking notes, that's the sort of goal he's on the team for and I'll take it next Sunday. :aok:

I actually thought of Doidge too and how he could learn from that sort of perseverance.

e2los
31-07-2022, 10:53 PM
And a majority of residents who disagree

:taxi

Just_Jimmy
31-07-2022, 10:54 PM
I didn't watch any of it, but I was told the result against Spain was the result that really defined England. They're obviously a very good national team in European terms. I was also told that the USA are head and shoulders above anybody else in the women's game, but that's just what I've been told.England will soon overtake the USA. In fact, Imo they have already. They missed a penalty against them to go in front in the semi at the world cup in 2019 and poor coaching let England down.

They've fixed that, and they've now tasted winning. English women's football is about to explode. It's already growing at a phenomenal rate.


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Brightside
31-07-2022, 10:59 PM
It won't be immediate but I think this should have inspired. Little girls throughout Scotland with no/limited interest in football/sports can see that 90k people show up to watch the game and are interested and passionate about it.

There is no issue getting little girls to play football. There are 100s of clubs now (if anything too many). The problem will remain around how we create more elite players. Unfortunately good players will have to leave to improve. (In that way it’s not much different from the mens game!)

Haymaker
31-07-2022, 11:03 PM
England will soon overtake the USA. In fact, Imo they have already. They missed a penalty against them to go in front in the semi at the world cup in 2019 and poor coaching let England down.

They've fixed that, and they've now tasted winning. English women's football is about to explode. It's already growing at a phenomenal rate.


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Not just England. Europe and South America will be dominant from now on. The USA women's team are in for a very nasty surprise at the next world cup and beyond.

uwxm07
31-07-2022, 11:09 PM
I think woman's football In general Is about to explode
.As regards football in general we wake up and smell the coffee as50%of the global population are women . Some live in servitude/ cloaks and that crap but the Male of the species has a limited shelf life going forward - so let’s get on board , take the opportunity and avoid extinction.

Torto7
31-07-2022, 11:14 PM
I think woman's football In general Is about to explode
.As regards football in general we wake up and smell the coffee as50%of the global population are women . Some live in servitude/ cloaks and that crap but the Male of the species has a limited shelf life going forward - so let’s get on board , take the opportunity and avoid extinction.

Wait whats happening to males and why do we have a limited shelf life?

uwxm07
31-07-2022, 11:19 PM
:taxi

In the unlikely event the majority agree my taxi will be booked with a full tank of fuel and a sterling/ dollar/euro bank acount

uwxm07
31-07-2022, 11:46 PM
Wait whats happening to males and why do we have a limited shelf life?
Because we believe we are superior and deserving of the superiority because we are male .!
In reality We as a species are who we are because of how we involve, respect ,engage and work together (as oppose to getting hung up on nationalist / racial
gender grouping )
On the other extreme I’m a Scottish /British male Hibs fan, season ticket holder of many decades ,so clearly a member of the superior extreme of the human race

Scouse Hibee
01-08-2022, 12:44 AM
😂😂 When your passport said you were part of Europe would you count any team that wins the euros as your own?

The passport has never said he was part of Europe it still said he was a British citizen 😀

Since90+2
01-08-2022, 04:50 AM
Because we believe we are superior and deserving of the superiority because we are male .!
In reality We as a species are who we are because of how we involve, respect ,engage and work together (as oppose to getting hung up on nationalist / racial
gender grouping )
On the other extreme I’m a Scottish /British male Hibs fan, season ticket holder of many decades ,so clearly a member of the superior extreme of the human race

What absolute nonsense. Speak for yourself, I don't believe I'm superior to woman and neither do any of my male friends or family.

PeeJay
01-08-2022, 05:21 AM
Well done England - thought the game was a pretty intensive one and a great advertisement for women's football. It could have gone either way, I feel.

Some Germans over here claiming there should have been a penalty for Germany and the VCR check really ought to have noted it and therefore it is all just a repeat of the "1966 Wembley robbery" ... didn't see anyone claiming for a penalty at the time myself :confused: ...

Colr
01-08-2022, 05:39 AM
I don’t think this is true.

The money will filter down / across.

Ok the WSL and England women will continue to be strong but should put pressure on Scottish FA and others to not be left behind.

My worry is that Rangers and Celtic just dominate the womens game in Scotland and make it like the mens game not allowing others to win anything.

It was a brilliant tournament and an enjoyable final.
It’s been refreshing that Hibs and Glasgow City have dominated the game in Scotland but Hibs haven’t supported their womens side as much as they could have done and I don’t see any other eventuality that the Old Firm taking control of the womens game as well.

GreenCastle
01-08-2022, 07:33 AM
It’s been refreshing that Hibs and Glasgow City have dominated the game in Scotland but Hibs haven’t supported their womens side as much as they could have done and I don’t see any other eventuality that the Old Firm taking control of the womens game as well.

Hibs have missed the boat sadly and will play for 3rd or 4th at best. Serveral years ago they should have done more to support the womens team but didn’t.

The other annoying part is they should be miles ahead of Hearts but they aren’t.

You could say it was only a matter of time before Celtic and Rangers supported it more. Just don’t think other teams will match the support they get.

GreenCastle
01-08-2022, 07:36 AM
England will soon overtake the USA. In fact, Imo they have already. They missed a penalty against them to go in front in the semi at the world cup in 2019 and poor coaching let England down.

They've fixed that, and they've now tasted winning. English women's football is about to explode. It's already growing at a phenomenal rate.


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I wouldn’t say England have overtaken USA.

Soccer in USA is massive and still growing in men and womens leagues.

They have definitely had a head start and will always have a huge player pool to choose from.

England obviously have closed the gap but until England win the World Cup I think USA are still the top team to beat.

The next World Cup is 2023 in Australia and New Zealand - will be a great tournament.

JimBHibees
01-08-2022, 07:42 AM
With the BBC already pumping £15m a season into the WSL this can only be bad news for the Scottish game!! Links to SPFL scores and news is already pushed below WSL links on their app!!

Yep the disprortionate backing by the broadcasters isn't great for our game especially when sky were proud and self admitted they tried to do the game down up here. It was a great tournament and England were excellent with some superb players that's what happens when millions are pumped into the game in comparison to their rivals.

JimBHibees
01-08-2022, 07:45 AM
I wouldn’t say England have overtaken USA.

Soccer in USA is massive and still growing in men and womens leagues.

They have definitely had a head start and will always have a huge player pool to choose from.

England obviously have closed the gap but until England win the World Cup I think USA are still the top team to beat.

The next World Cup is 2023 in Australia and New Zealand - will be a great tournament.

Agree let's also not recognise they had a lot going for them in the home venues plus key players in their opposition being unavailable for games against them. They are certainly improving and will undoubtedly be more competitive than they have been.

On an entirely separate poin though Russo should he been red carded for what looked like a deliberate elbow in extra time.

GreenCastle
01-08-2022, 08:00 AM
Agree let's also not recognise they had a lot going for them in the home venues plus key players in their opposition being unavailable for games against them. They are certainly improving and will undoubtedly be more competitive than they have been.

On an entirely separate poin though Russo should he been red carded for what looked like a deliberate elbow in extra time.

The English FA have had a plan for a while.

That plan included spending millions and bidding to host the tournament.

It was also the aim to win a tournament and it just happens many of the current squad are in prime and have had tournament experience plus some amazing youth players coming through.

The schedule also helped England and injuries to key players of other teams like Spanish striker and Popp (Germany Captain) in warm up definitely helped.

Taking nothing away from the achievement as I’m delighted for them and the girls and womens game but this isn’t just by chance it’s been in the pipeline and the English FA will be buzzing it’s all come together.

He's here!
01-08-2022, 08:58 AM
The passport has never said he was part of Europe it still said he was a British citizen 😀

Right enough. Never really paid much attention to it, but I've got mine at the airport just now (just noticed it expires shortly so just as well I looked) and it states United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland on the front and describes me as a British Citizen inside :agree:

Assuming the new blue post-Brexit ones are much the same.

He's here!
01-08-2022, 09:02 AM
The English FA have had a plan for a while.

That plan included spending millions and bidding to host the tournament.

It was also the aim to win a tournament and it just happens many of the current squad are in prime and have had tournament experience plus some amazing youth players coming through.

The schedule also helped England and injuries to key players of other teams like Spanish striker and Popp (Germany Captain) in warm up definitely helped.

Taking nothing away from the achievement as I’m delighted for them and the girls and womens game but this isn’t just by chance it’s been in the pipeline and the English FA will be buzzing it’s all come together.

Yep, mentioned earlier I thought the promotion of the women's game felt a little 'force fed' two or three years ago, but I've been completely won over and as you say the Euros have been a stunning endorsement of a well-constructed and well financed plan. Hats off to them. The quality of the women's game has improved beyond recognition and is now a great watch. Things can only get even better from here on.

LewysGot2
01-08-2022, 09:46 AM
Yep, mentioned earlier I thought the promotion of the women's game felt a little 'force fed' two or three years ago, but I've been completely won over and as you say the Euros have been a stunning endorsement of a well-constructed and well financed plan. Hats off to them. The quality of the women's game has improved beyond recognition and is now a great watch. Things can only get even better from here on.

The adage you can’t be what you can’t see is massive here. There had to be a proactive approach to this long term project by the English FA to develop the product so that more young females have role models, pathways and a chance to participate in ways that have not been possible for a very long time. The womens’ game was popular in the early 20th century- good participation levels and decent attendances. Then they were effectively stopped playing post war by respective governing bodies and society’s views shifted in a not so positive way. Now things are moving back in the other direction there will be increased participation and, in turn, more and better players developed.

Last night England got the reward for their investment and commitment and this will just be the start. It was an ambitious plan, well executed and it delivered - there’s no other way to look at it.

RIP
01-08-2022, 09:59 AM
Any other auld codgers out there who used to watch Edinburgh Dynamos back in the day?

My family used to go along to watch their home games at Davidson Mains Park and I remember being bowled away by their Amazonian centre-half Sheila Begbie who dominated the defence and midfield.

They were the early pioneers of the women’s game in the East of Scotland

Torto7
01-08-2022, 10:08 AM
Yep the disprortionate backing by the broadcasters isn't great for our game especially when sky were proud and self admitted they tried to do the game down up here. It was a great tournament and England were excellent with some superb players that's what happens when millions are pumped into the game in comparison to their rivals.

Plenty of folk are alright with that though. Football is already popular in this country. Why is WSL prioritised over other female or underfunded male sport by the national broadcaster?

Torto7
01-08-2022, 10:11 AM
Because we believe we are superior and deserving of the superiority because we are male .!
In reality We as a species are who we are because of how we involve, respect ,engage and work together (as oppose to getting hung up on nationalist / racial
gender grouping )
On the other extreme I’m a Scottish /British male Hibs fan, season ticket holder of many decades ,so clearly a member of the superior extreme of the human race

What a load of pish.

Nakedmanoncrack
01-08-2022, 10:22 AM
Was in Manchester yesterday & loads of people out in brand new football shirts, many in family groups etc. They were all Man Utd shirts though! They had arranged a (men's) friendly at Old Trafford for same time as the final, and it was clear which was the main fixture of the day. Had expected a lot more of a buzz around the final, but was very flat to be honest.

hibby rae
01-08-2022, 10:42 AM
Right enough. Never really paid much attention to it, but I've got mine at the airport just now (just noticed it expires shortly so just as well I looked) and it states United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland on the front and describes me as a British Citizen inside :agree:

Assuming the new blue post-Brexit ones are much the same.

Although if your passport has European Union at the top, like my one still does, this was evidence of a time where we were once also citizens of that union.

hibby rae
01-08-2022, 10:44 AM
The adage you can’t be what you can’t see is massive here. There had to be a proactive approach to this long term project by the English FA to develop the product so that more young females have role models, pathways and a chance to participate in ways that have not been possible for a very long time. The womens’ game was popular in the early 20th century- good participation levels and decent attendances. Then they were effectively stopped playing post war by respective governing bodies and society’s views shifted in a not so positive way. Now things are moving back in the other direction there will be increased participation and, in turn, more and better players developed.

Last night England got the reward for their investment and commitment and this will just be the start. It was an ambitious plan, well executed and it delivered - there’s no other way to look at it.

100%, representation is the key.

With that in mind, I think it's short-sighted to have all SWNT games at Hampden now, they should be playing different venues around the country to give as many people as possible, in particular girls, the chance to see them in person.

Scouse Hibee
01-08-2022, 11:12 AM
Was in Manchester yesterday & loads of people out in brand new football shirts, many in family groups etc. They were all Man Utd shirts though! They had arranged a (men's) friendly at Old Trafford for same time as the final, and it was clear which was the main fixture of the day. Had expected a lot more of a buzz around the final, but was very flat to be honest.

Strangely enough, in London there was thousands in new football shirts and they were all England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 shirts. The buzz around the final was fantastic.

He's here!
01-08-2022, 12:00 PM
100%, representation is the key.

With that in mind, I think it's short-sighted to have all SWNT games at Hampden now, they should be playing different venues around the country to give as many people as possible, in particular girls, the chance to see them in person.

Agreed.

Thoughts seem to be that England's win can only be good for the game in Scotland:

England's Euro 2022 success will benefit us, say Scots - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-62377697)

Lago
01-08-2022, 12:54 PM
Strangely enough, in London there was thousands in new football shirts and they were all England �������������� shirts. The buzz around the final was fantastic.
An attendance of 87000 says it all, well done to those that had the foresight to promote women's football in England ��

Brightside
01-08-2022, 01:22 PM
Agreed.

Thoughts seem to be that England's win can only be good for the game in Scotland:

England's Euro 2022 success will benefit us, say Scots - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-62377697)

Interesting that there are no comments from the SFA.

easty
01-08-2022, 01:29 PM
Interesting that there are no comments from the SFA.

Does the SFA usually comment on the English game?

Brightside
01-08-2022, 01:35 PM
Does the SFA usually comment on the English game?

It’s a discussion about how it will help the Scottish game. 😂. Comments from SWF and Julie Fleeting. SWF is low level regional football. Would be good to hear how the SFA are going to use the result to improve elite football.

Mon Dieu4
01-08-2022, 01:38 PM
Interesting that there are no comments from the SFA.

The SFA and SPFL aren't fit for purpose for the men's game half the time so the ladies stand no chance

where'stheslope
01-08-2022, 01:39 PM
It’s a discussion about how it will help the Scottish game. 😂. Comments from SWF and Julie Fleeting. SWF is low level regional football. Would be good to hear how the SFA are going to use the result to improve elite football.
Maybe the Tory government will level up the game, and give other British nations their fare share of TV revenue.
This is the reason the English game is flourishing the way it is, if the money was to stop they would be in dire straits!!!

He's here!
01-08-2022, 02:11 PM
It’s a discussion about how it will help the Scottish game. 😂. Comments from SWF and Julie Fleeting. SWF is low level regional football. Would be good to hear how the SFA are going to use the result to improve elite football.

The article is about how it will boost the women's game in Scotland. As Fleeting says a number of clubs are already investing in their women's teams and hopefully that will see a stronger international side emerge. England's success can surely only act as an inspiration.

Personally I'd like to see a UK league for both our men's and women's teams. I know that wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea but the game in Scotland seems very stale and describing our men's game as 'elite' when we're seeing our top flight sides brushed aside by League of Ireland teams seems a bit optimistic.

LewysGot2
01-08-2022, 02:49 PM
Maybe the Tory government will level up the game, and give other British nations their fare share of TV revenue.
This is the reason the English game is flourishing the way it is, if the money was to stop they would be in dire straits!!!

Now here's where we can't shirk responsibility for poor decisions made by the guardians of the Scottish game in the not so distant past where we farted about with TV negotiations to our detriment (and no going back from a much reduced deal), had the debacle of Old Firm TV, allow deals where almost all the money goes to just two clubs and has generated a product that isn't going to attract television money outside key games and 2 teams the satellite broadcasters want to show. On Saturday I was already sick of other teams' survival first approach to the game. The style and approach that doesn't give any thought for the paying public. Half our top league, if not more is representative of survival mode industrial football. Its depressing.

It's probably one of the reasons this Euros has been refreshing.

TV companies are driven by viewing figures, in the main. Certainly the commercial ones are, which is where the main investment comes from. That's why they show Liverpool most weeks - they get the highest viewing figures when they are on. Likewise our Ugly Sisters. It's economies of scale - but it doesn't make what's going on right and I don't know how you improve the Scottish domestic product enough to get broadcasters interested enough again. Maybe English teams getting banned from European football again might help 🤔 😉

It's a horrible chicken and egg situation. Where are the big investors looking to put money into our game? At least Ron is being proactive on that front with Cormack from Aberdeen but you get the feeling that our old boys network in the game and the media really don't like these pesky outsiders trying to shake things up. You can hear it in the rhetoric about Ron and our club in the media gang from Glasgow.

Unfortunately, the Ugly Sisters are also not going to want to do anything to end the duopoly so we are where we are...with negative play and tactics, industrial football, plastic pitches and a private members club resisting change. All wrapped up in a complete lack of imagination.

What are we going to do for ourselves to improve things? There must be solutions out there.

Bristolhibby
01-08-2022, 03:06 PM
Now here's where we can't shirk responsibility for poor decisions made by the guardians of the Scottish game in the not so distant past where we farted about with TV negotiations to our detriment (and no going back from a much reduced deal), had the debacle of Old Firm TV, allow deals where almost all the money goes to just two clubs and has generated a product that isn't going to attract television money outside key games and 2 teams the satellite broadcasters want to show. On Saturday I was already sick of other teams' survival first approach to the game. The style and approach that doesn't give any thought for the paying public. Half our top league, if not more is representative of survival mode industrial football. Its depressing.

It's probably one of the reasons this Euros has been refreshing.

TV companies are driven by viewing figures, in the main. Certainly the commercial ones are, which is where the main investment comes from. That's why they show Liverpool most weeks - they get the highest viewing figures when they are on. Likewise our Ugly Sisters. It's economies of scale - but it doesn't make what's going on right and I don't know how you improve the Scottish domestic product enough to get broadcasters interested enough again. Maybe English teams getting banned from European football again might help 🤔 😉

It's a horrible chicken and egg situation. Where are the big investors looking to put money into our game? At least Ron is being proactive on that front with Cormack from Aberdeen but you get the feeling that our old boys network in the game and the media really don't like these pesky outsiders trying to shake things up. You can hear it in the rhetoric about Ron and our club in the media gang from Glasgow.

Unfortunately, the Ugly Sisters are also not going to want to do anything to end the duopoly so we are where we are...with negative play and tactics, industrial football, plastic pitches and a private members club resisting change. All wrapped up in a complete lack of imagination.

What are we going to do for ourselves to improve things? There must be solutions out there.

Had the chance to shake things up when the Huns were liquidated and newco formed. Scottish clubs collectively bottled it.

The 11-1 voting stranglehold was there for the taking but we blew it.

J

Brightside
01-08-2022, 03:20 PM
The article is about how it will boost the women's game in Scotland. As Fleeting says a number of clubs are already investing in their women's teams and hopefully that will see a stronger international side emerge. England's success can surely only act as an inspiration.

Personally I'd like to see a UK league for both our men's and women's teams. I know that wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea but the game in Scotland seems very stale and describing our men's game as 'elite' when we're seeing our top flight sides brushed aside by League of Ireland teams seems a bit optimistic.

Our womens teams would currently get pumped by WSL teams. They are miles ahead. We need to concentrate on the elite players 14 to 20. Too many of the new signings in our league are average foreign players and we aren’t developing the best youngsters. Already English teams are sniffing about u16s players. The performance leagues for youth players and the regionals SFA coaching is awful. Needs to be ripped up and started again.

Brightside
01-08-2022, 03:25 PM
Now here's where we can't shirk responsibility for poor decisions made by the guardians of the Scottish game in the not so distant past where we farted about with TV negotiations to our detriment (and no going back from a much reduced deal), had the debacle of Old Firm TV, allow deals where almost all the money goes to just two clubs and has generated a product that isn't going to attract television money outside key games and 2 teams the satellite broadcasters want to show. On Saturday I was already sick of other teams' survival first approach to the game. The style and approach that doesn't give any thought for the paying public. Half our top league, if not more is representative of survival mode industrial football. Its depressing.

It's probably one of the reasons this Euros has been refreshing.

TV companies are driven by viewing figures, in the main. Certainly the commercial ones are, which is where the main investment comes from. That's why they show Liverpool most weeks - they get the highest viewing figures when they are on. Likewise our Ugly Sisters. It's economies of scale - but it doesn't make what's going on right and I don't know how you improve the Scottish domestic product enough to get broadcasters interested enough again. Maybe English teams getting banned from European football again might help 🤔 😉

It's a horrible chicken and egg situation. Where are the big investors looking to put money into our game? At least Ron is being proactive on that front with Cormack from Aberdeen but you get the feeling that our old boys network in the game and the media really don't like these pesky outsiders trying to shake things up. You can hear it in the rhetoric about Ron and our club in the media gang from Glasgow.

Unfortunately, the Ugly Sisters are also not going to want to do anything to end the duopoly so we are where we are...with negative play and tactics, industrial football, plastic pitches and a private members club resisting change. All wrapped up in a complete lack of imagination.

What are we going to do for ourselves to improve things? There must be solutions out there.

Firstly women need to play on the same home ground every week. It changes constantly. Need to create a welcoming family atmosphere. Forget the entry fees and make money on the concession stands. I went to a Motherwell game last season in the middle of nowhere. Pishing rain and not even a working toilet. Every team in the top league needs to be forced to have decent facilities. SWF claimed every team had to have 500 covered stand. You’ll struggle to find many that have that. They also all need to up their game on socials. Even the top clubs are poor with updates. So much more needs to be done if they want to build the game.

CockneyRebel
01-08-2022, 03:27 PM
Had the chance to shake things up when the Huns were liquidated and newco formed. Scottish clubs collectively bottled it.

The 11-1 voting stranglehold was there for the taking but we blew it.

J

Only the Aberdeen Chairman voted with Celtic so they carried the vote 10-2. Game changing opportunity down the swanny.

LewysGot2
01-08-2022, 03:37 PM
Firstly women need to play on the same home ground every week. It changes constantly. Need to create a welcoming family atmosphere. Forget the entry fees and make money on the concession stands. I went to a Motherwell game last season in the middle of nowhere. Pishing rain and not even a working toilet. Every team in the top league needs to be forced to have decent facilities. SWF claimed every team had to have 500 covered stand. You’ll struggle to find many that have that. They also all need to up their game on socials. Even the top clubs are poor with updates. So much more needs to be done if they want to build the game.

Think having an American based owner might help a bit. Taking the team in-house, moving to Meadowbank again etc will all help. The number of times last season I thought I'd maybe pop along to a game the fact it was in the wild West before you even started was off putting as there'd be additional costs and travel time. When you've already done it for the men's team in a weekend it can matter. Certainly will be at more matches this year given its relatively local again. The games at ER were well marketed and well attended. Enjoyed them greatly.

He's here!
01-08-2022, 03:37 PM
Now here's where we can't shirk responsibility for poor decisions made by the guardians of the Scottish game in the not so distant past where we farted about with TV negotiations to our detriment (and no going back from a much reduced deal), had the debacle of Old Firm TV, allow deals where almost all the money goes to just two clubs and has generated a product that isn't going to attract television money outside key games and 2 teams the satellite broadcasters want to show. On Saturday I was already sick of other teams' survival first approach to the game. The style and approach that doesn't give any thought for the paying public. Half our top league, if not more is representative of survival mode industrial football. Its depressing.

It's probably one of the reasons this Euros has been refreshing.

TV companies are driven by viewing figures, in the main. Certainly the commercial ones are, which is where the main investment comes from. That's why they show Liverpool most weeks - they get the highest viewing figures when they are on. Likewise our Ugly Sisters. It's economies of scale - but it doesn't make what's going on right and I don't know how you improve the Scottish domestic product enough to get broadcasters interested enough again. Maybe English teams getting banned from European football again might help 🤔 😉

It's a horrible chicken and egg situation. Where are the big investors looking to put money into our game? At least Ron is being proactive on that front with Cormack from Aberdeen but you get the feeling that our old boys network in the game and the media really don't like these pesky outsiders trying to shake things up. You can hear it in the rhetoric about Ron and our club in the media gang from Glasgow.

Unfortunately, the Ugly Sisters are also not going to want to do anything to end the duopoly so we are where we are...with negative play and tactics, industrial football, plastic pitches and a private members club resisting change. All wrapped up in a complete lack of imagination.

What are we going to do for ourselves to improve things? There must be solutions out there.

Couldn't agree more. There's next to nothing about the Scottish game at present which makes it a popular draw. As you say, the Euros were so refreshing because they served to remind you that football can actually be inspiring and uplifting rather than dour and depressing.

ronaldo7
01-08-2022, 03:38 PM
The article is about how it will boost the women's game in Scotland. As Fleeting says a number of clubs are already investing in their women's teams and hopefully that will see a stronger international side emerge. England's success can surely only act as an inspiration.

Personally I'd like to see a UK league for both our men's and women's teams. I know that wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea but the game in Scotland seems very stale and describing our men's game as 'elite' when we're seeing our top flight sides brushed aside by League of Ireland teams seems a bit optimistic.

When are Scots going to lift their heads and see that the LOI, where teams halfway through their season will always pose a threat to them in a pre season European tie. Or will they always be treated as too wee to be bothered with.

Mistakes happen though, and Sligo were knocked out of the cup at the week end from a lower league club. That's football.

Scotland games at the "elite" level is thriving, as seen by the opening day crowds around the country.

Back to the thread content.

Well done to the England women's team last night. I hope it inspires more girls to get into the game, currently the fastest growing area of the game at grassroots.

He's here!
01-08-2022, 03:42 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/62374985?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=62e79c7f21e03625cb4a2a66%26%27A%20carn ival%20of%20football%2C%20humanity%2C%20hope%20and %20happiness%27%262022-08-01T15%3A03%3A57.828Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:dd0c4414-0eb7-4748-a8fd-641161ddf524&pinned_post_asset_id=62e79c7f21e03625cb4a2a66&pinned_post_type=share

The diversity and family-friendly feel to the crowd at Wembley was another positive worth remarking on.

He's here!
01-08-2022, 03:51 PM
Think having an American based owner might help a bit. Taking the team in-house, moving to Meadowbank again etc will all help. The number of times last season I thought I'd maybe pop along to a game the fact it was in the wild West before you even started was off putting as there'd be additional costs and travel time. When you've already done it for the men's team in a weekend it can matter. Certainly will be at more matches this year given its relatively local again. The games at ER were well marketed and well attended. Enjoyed them greatly.

Agree again. I can actually see myself attending more Hibs women's games than men's games this season. Would definitely meet with a more enthusiastic response from my family than when I usually suggest 'going to the Hibs game' :greengrin

andrew70
01-08-2022, 03:52 PM
Hopefully girls in Scotland get incentivised through contracts to stay in our game and not make pointless moves to America. The good ones anyway.

Callum_62
01-08-2022, 03:52 PM
Well done England - thought the game was a pretty intensive one and a great advertisement for women's football. It could have gone either way, I feel.

Some Germans over here claiming there should have been a penalty for Germany and the VCR check really ought to have noted it and therefore it is all just a repeat of the "1966 Wembley robbery" ... didn't see anyone claiming for a penalty at the time myself :confused: ...There was a clear handball (although it mightve defected onto her arm?)

It was during that massive stramash at 1-0 to England I think

Really surprised it wasn't mentioned more during the game [emoji23]

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Brightside
01-08-2022, 04:07 PM
Hopefully girls in Scotland get incentivised through contracts to stay in our game and not make pointless moves to America. The good ones anyway.

It’s not a pointless move to America if they play at a higher standard with better coaching. The facilities are better at most Div 1 University than you get at Prem teams in Scotland. If they want the kids to stay in this country they need to raise the levels. A “pro” contract is not the incentive when they can earn more working in TK Max or Macdonalds. It has to be more than just offering a salary.

hibby rae
01-08-2022, 04:19 PM
Firstly women need to play on the same home ground every week. It changes constantly. Need to create a welcoming family atmosphere. Forget the entry fees and make money on the concession stands. I went to a Motherwell game last season in the middle of nowhere. Pishing rain and not even a working toilet. Every team in the top league needs to be forced to have decent facilities. SWF claimed every team had to have 500 covered stand. You’ll struggle to find many that have that. They also all need to up their game on socials. Even the top clubs are poor with updates. So much more needs to be done if they want to build the game.

Funny I was saying very similar things this morning about the home ground situation in the SWPL. Hibs having Meadowbank sorted now is a very big advantage compared to the other teams in terms of attracting a good, regular attendance.

Another noticeable thing from Hibs has been the massive improvement in their comms and social, it wasn't that long ago it was a real struggle even finding confirmed KO information for that weekend's fixture. It's night and day compared to even a couple years ago. Hopefully this continues to improve now that I would imagine it's in-house.

I've noticed one small, but pleasing detail is all fixtures are described as MEN vs or WOMEN vs from the main club account now as well.


Think having an American based owner might help a bit. Taking the team in-house, moving to Meadowbank again etc will all help. The number of times last season I thought I'd maybe pop along to a game the fact it was in the wild West before you even started was off putting as there'd be additional costs and travel time. When you've already done it for the men's team in a weekend it can matter. Certainly will be at more matches this year given its relatively local again. The games at ER were well marketed and well attended. Enjoyed them greatly.

So relieved Livi, and also Ainslie, are in the past. Now we have far better transport links, and choice of things to do before or after to make a day of it.

Already sorted my tickets for Accies game through the Fanbase app.

Stairway 2 7
01-08-2022, 04:19 PM
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📈Fascinating stat📉 Streaming site DAZN picked up the global rights to the women’s Champions League for four years for about $10mn. By comparison, Amazon will spend more than that to screen a single men’s Champions League match just in the UK.

DIXIHIBS
01-08-2022, 04:46 PM
The article is about how it will boost the women's game in Scotland. As Fleeting says a number of clubs are already investing in their women's teams and hopefully that will see a stronger international side emerge. England's success can surely only act as an inspiration.

Personally I'd like to see a UK league for both our men's and women's teams. I know that wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea but the game in Scotland seems very stale and describing our men's game as 'elite' when we're seeing our top flight sides brushed aside by League of Ireland teams seems a bit optimistic.

A Uk league could potentially be a disaster for scottish teams. We aint gonna be playing man utd and liverpool. More like Peterborough and exeter or similar. No tv is going to be interested. Cant see any positives in it. They would only be interested in the uglies anyway.

Alfred E Newman
01-08-2022, 04:55 PM
Maybe the Tory government will level up the game, and give other British nations their fare share of TV revenue.
This is the reason the English game is flourishing the way it is, if the money was to stop they would be in dire straits!!!
Political nonsense.

andrew70
01-08-2022, 05:00 PM
It’s not a pointless move to America if they play at a higher standard with better coaching. The facilities are better at most Div 1 University than you get at Prem teams in Scotland. If they want the kids to stay in this country they need to raise the levels. A “pro” contract is not the incentive when they can earn more working in TK Max or Macdonalds. It has to be more than just offering a salary.

Not many make it internationally or indeed the progress of the league by going to America.

We have some very good players here in Scotland and I think it’s interesting that young Americans are coming across here.

It’s great to see and I hope our league bears the fruit but it’s like the scholarships that young guys used to get years back in the US. They led to nowhere, some very good players lost.

Brightside
01-08-2022, 05:18 PM
Not many make it internationally or indeed the progress of the league by going to America.

We have some very good players here in Scotland and I think it’s interesting that young Americans are coming across here.

It’s great to see and I hope our league bears the fruit but it’s like the scholarships that young guys used to get years back in the US. They led to nowhere, some very good players lost.

A lot of our current national team played outside Scotland. The Americans coming over are post graduation. There are still a lot of our better youth players going to the States and as I said that makes sense for a free education and top class coaching. I’m not a fan of kids going over to community colleges though as the level of play is very poor.

The one problem you get is youth players will fall out the youth national system for 4 years. That’s what anyone needs to weigh up when they go.

Jim44
01-08-2022, 05:22 PM
I’m genuinely pleased for the English Womens’ team and their achievement. However, and I might be dinosauric in my opinion, I really don’t enjoy womens’ football and actually thought, despite what the media are telling us, it was a poor game, and, for me, unimpressive. :tin hat:

Brightside
01-08-2022, 05:25 PM
I’m genuinely pleased for the English Womens’ team and their achievement. However, and I might be dinosauric in my opinion, I really don’t enjoy womens’ football and actually thought, despite what the media are telling us, it was a poor game, and, for me, unimpressive. :tin hat:

And was that compared to other womens games you’ve watched?

Lago
01-08-2022, 05:51 PM
Interesting that there are no comments from the SFA.
It's shocking, like everything else where the SFA are concerned they are the cows tail.

Lago
01-08-2022, 05:56 PM
Now here's where we can't shirk responsibility for poor decisions made by the guardians of the Scottish game in the not so distant past where we farted about with TV negotiations to our detriment (and no going back from a much reduced deal), had the debacle of Old Firm TV, allow deals where almost all the money goes to just two clubs and has generated a product that isn't going to attract television money outside key games and 2 teams the satellite broadcasters want to show. On Saturday I was already sick of other teams' survival first approach to the game. The style and approach that doesn't give any thought for the paying public. Half our top league, if not more is representative of survival mode industrial football. Its depressing.

It's probably one of the reasons this Euros has been refreshing.

TV companies are driven by viewing figures, in the main. Certainly the commercial ones are, which is where the main investment comes from. That's why they show Liverpool most weeks - they get the highest viewing figures when they are on. Likewise our Ugly Sisters. It's economies of scale - but it doesn't make what's going on right and I don't know how you improve the Scottish domestic product enough to get broadcasters interested enough again. Maybe English teams getting banned from European football again might help �� ��

It's a horrible chicken and egg situation. Where are the big investors looking to put money into our game? At least Ron is being proactive on that front with Cormack from Aberdeen but you get the feeling that our old boys network in the game and the media really don't like these pesky outsiders trying to shake things up. You can hear it in the rhetoric about Ron and our club in the media gang from Glasgow.

Unfortunately, the Ugly Sisters are also not going to want to do anything to end the duopoly so we are where we are...with negative play and tactics, industrial football, plastic pitches and a private members club resisting change. All wrapped up in a complete lack of imagination.

What are we going to do for ourselves to improve things? There must be solutions out there.
It's as you rightly point out about economies of scale which is driven by the fact you have a population of 60 million in England v 5 million in Scotland, it's a no brainer for TV companies.

Since452
01-08-2022, 05:58 PM
Interesting that there are no comments from the SFA.

Don't mean this to sound arsey but do the SFA need to say anything about England womans team winning the Euros? Did they say anything when Germany won it eight times or whatever it was?

Jim44
01-08-2022, 06:01 PM
And was that compared to other womens games you’ve watched?

I’ve not watched much womens’ football, but admit that, occasionally, I’ve thought it wasn’t bad. I would stick by my opinion that last night’s final was unimpressive and being ‘bigged up’ because of the involvement and success of the lionesses.

PeeJay
01-08-2022, 06:03 PM
There was a clear handball (although it mightve defected onto her arm?)

It was during that massive stramash at 1-0 to England I think

Really surprised it wasn't mentioned more during the game [emoji23]

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Yeah, during the live broadcast here in Germany, the commentator said that the arm made contact with the ball, but he ( commentator) was certain that that was not worthy of a penalty and he felt the video check backed him up - missed it altogether myself ... :greengrin

007
01-08-2022, 06:06 PM
Maybe the Tory government will level up the game, and give other British nations their fare share of TV revenue.
This is the reason the English game is flourishing the way it is, if the money was to stop they would be in dire straits!!!

What %age share does each nation get at the moment?

Nakedmanoncrack
01-08-2022, 06:06 PM
Strangely enough, in London there was thousands in new football shirts and they were all England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 shirts. The buzz around the final was fantastic.

Game was in London so if it has been low key it would have been strange.

Pretty Boy
01-08-2022, 06:21 PM
When we spoke to Joelle Murray for the hibs.net podcast last year (hopefully soon to be returning btw) we had a great conversation on and off the record.

I walked away both shocked and genuinely saddened at the difficulties she described at grassroots level for women's football. I don't wish to aim any disrespect at the Community Foundation but funding and the very basics were a constant struggle. When we 1st started chatting to Joelle the plan was to maybe throw a couple of hundred quid their way to help out. After talking to her it was a collective decision of the admin team that we had to do more and we ended up spending a 4 figure sum on strips for one of the age group teams. It was a no brainer.

I'm well aware of the struggles that juvenile teams face when securing shirt sponsors, track suits and the like. However let's be honest no boy at any age group in the Hibs set up would ever have to worry about not having a strip for the coming season. Add to that there was a need for hairbands, water bottles, training journals etc. It was so obviously the poor relation. Again I have nothing but admiration for the work the Foundation put in to women's football but hopefully the now they are under club control such poverty is a thing of the past.

We need to get women's football right now. It's only getting bigger and we can either spend now to grow with it or, much like the men's game, Scotland can realise the world is changing too late and spend decades playing catch up. Hopefully Hibs have taken the 1st steps to ensuring we are at the front of the queue.

Brightside
01-08-2022, 06:25 PM
Don't mean this to sound arsey but do the SFA need to say anything about England womans team winning the Euros? Did they say anything when Germany won it eight times or whatever it was?

Did you read the piece? It’s interviewing Scottish people in football to discuss the impact the result will have. It’s about Scottish football. SFA should be all over it. It’s a bandwagon to jump on to get more promotion and sponsorship. But they will remain in their offices with their nice cardigans on sipping on a nice glass of port. There is a reason why Fiona Macintyre couldn’t jump quickly enough the the SPFL MD role. Now the SFA have no one in charge of the womens game.

Lago
01-08-2022, 06:26 PM
When we spoke to Joelle Murray for the hibs.net podcast last year (hopefully soon to be returning btw) we had a great conversation on and off the record.

I walked away both shocked and genuinely saddened at the difficulties she described at grassroots level for women's football. I don't wish to aim any disrespect at the Community Foundation but funding and the very basics were a constant struggle. When we 1st started chatting to Joelle the plan was to maybe throw a couple of hundred quid their way to help out. After talking to her it was a collective decision of the admin team that we had to do more and we ended up spending a 4 figure sum on strips for one of the age group teams. It was a no brainer.

I'm well aware of the struggles that juvenile teams face when securing shirt sponsors, track suits and the like. However let's be honest no boy at any age group in the Hibs set up would ever have to worry about not having a strip for the coming season. Add to that there was a need for hairbands, water bottles, training journals etc. It was so obviously the poor relation. Again I have nothing but admiration for the work the Foundation put in to women's football but hopefully the now they are under club control such poverty is a thing of the past.

We need to get women's football right now. It's only getting bigger and we can either spend now to grow with it or, much like the men's game, Scotland can realise the world is changing too late and spend decades playing catch up. Hopefully Hibs have taken the 1st steps to ensuring we are at the front of the queue.
Ron Gordon surely deserves a small pat on the back for bring Hibs women in house.

Brightside
01-08-2022, 06:28 PM
When we spoke to Joelle Murray for the hibs.net podcast last year (hopefully soon to be returning btw) we had a great conversation on and off the record.

I walked away both shocked and genuinely saddened at the difficulties she described at grassroots level for women's football. I don't wish to aim any disrespect at the Community Foundation but funding and the very basics were a constant struggle. When we 1st started chatting to Joelle the plan was to maybe throw a couple of hundred quid their way to help out. After talking to her it was a collective decision of the admin team that we had to do more and we ended up spending a 4 figure sum on strips for one of the age group teams. It was a no brainer.

I'm well aware of the struggles that juvenile teams face when securing shirt sponsors, track suits and the like. However let's be honest no boy at any age group in the Hibs set up would ever have to worry about not having a strip for the coming season. Add to that there was a need for hairbands, water bottles, training journals etc. It was so obviously the poor relation. Again I have nothing but admiration for the work the Foundation put in to women's football but hopefully the now they are under club control such poverty is a thing of the past.

We need to get women's football right now. It's only getting bigger and we can either spend now to grow with it or, much like the men's game, Scotland can realise the world is changing too late and spend decades playing catch up. Hopefully Hibs have taken the 1st steps to ensuring we are at the front of the queue.

When you sponsored the team did that mean that the parents didn’t have to buy all the kit like they have to for all the other age groups? Alongside the highest subs in girls football.

Pretty Boy
01-08-2022, 06:31 PM
Ron Gordon surely deserves a small pat on the back for bring Hibs women in house.

100%.

I'll criticise RG when I feel it's merited and praise him likewise. On this one the club and thus ultimately Ron are doing the right thing.

Pretty Boy
01-08-2022, 06:33 PM
When you sponsored the team did that mean that the parents didn’t have to buy all the kit like they have to for all the other age groups? Alongside the highest subs in girls football.

I believe that was the case but don't quote me on it. I think ourselves and a couple of others sponsored a couple of teams and that meant the girls (or their parents) didn't have to fork out for kits.

I could be wrong though but that's my recollection of the conversations we had.

Lago
01-08-2022, 06:49 PM
:top marks
100%.

I'll criticise RG when I feel it's merited and praise him likewise. On this one the club and thus ultimately Ron are doing the right thing.

Lago
01-08-2022, 06:53 PM
I believe that was the case but don't quote me on it. I think ourselves and a couple of others sponsored a couple of teams and that meant the girls (or their parents) didn't have to fork out for kits.

I could be wrong though but that's my recollection of the conversations we had.
As an individual is it possible to provide some form of sponsorship to the women's team, an individual player for instance?

hibby rae
01-08-2022, 06:59 PM
As an individual is it possible to provide some form of sponsorship to the women's team, an individual player for instance?

Yes. Details on the player's profiles on the website

Brightside
01-08-2022, 07:00 PM
As an individual is it possible to provide some form of sponsorship to the women's team, an individual player for instance?

Yep. Should be on the site.

Pretty Boy
01-08-2022, 07:01 PM
As an individual is it possible to provide some form of sponsorship to the women's team, an individual player for instance?

They were definitely offering individual player sponsorships for this season. Think the take up was quite good so not sure of availability.

Details for the women's packages and contact are in the latter half of this article:

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/sponsorship/player-sponsorship

hibby rae
01-08-2022, 07:15 PM
They were definitely offering individual player sponsorships for this season. Think the take up was quite good so not sure of availability.

Details for the women's packages and contact are in the latter half of this article:

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/sponsorship/player-sponsorship

There's quite a few going, unless the site hasn't been updated. For example, Micky doesn't have any at the moment.

LewysGot2
01-08-2022, 07:32 PM
I’ve not watched much womens’ football, but admit that, occasionally, I’ve thought it wasn’t bad. I would stick by my opinion that last night’s final was unimpressive and being ‘bigged up’ because of the involvement and success of the lionesses.

Most tournament finals are cagey, often disappointing fare. Too much at stake. There's been some really good games this tournament.

We watch Hibs, mind 😉

He's here!
01-08-2022, 07:35 PM
I’ve not watched much womens’ football, but admit that, occasionally, I’ve thought it wasn’t bad. I would stick by my opinion that last night’s final was unimpressive and being ‘bigged up’ because of the involvement and success of the lionesses.

How often are cup finals great games? There's so much at stake they can often be an anti-climax but I thought last night was decent and England's opener was fit to grace any final.

If you watched more women's football you'd have seen some cracking games in the tournament.

Lago
01-08-2022, 08:19 PM
Yes. Details on the player's profiles on the website
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Lago
01-08-2022, 08:20 PM
Yep. Should be on the site.
👍

Lago
01-08-2022, 08:21 PM
They were definitely offering individual player sponsorships for this season. Think the take up was quite good so not sure of availability.

Details for the women's packages and contact are in the latter half of this article:

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/sponsorship/player-sponsorship
I'll have a look at that, thanks.