Hibs v St Johnstone

[A Hi-Bee]

Never questioned his grounding or his management level, his demeanor though, yes, he's too timid for me. Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

I dont think any professional football player stays in the game, certainly not at a high level such as Maloney, did by being "timid".

[easty]

Is Daniel Mackay injured at Killie? Not even on the bench today.

Tait got 3 mins as a sub. Terrible choice to take him from regular football at Raith to this.

[Weir07]

Bottom 6 is more likely can’t see them winning any games before the split

That's an absolute stick on. Just a dreadful team to watch with no exciting play or entertainment. Maloney will be sacked at some point in his Hibs career, hopefully at the end of the season but suspect it will be before the next January window. Solid defensively but a dreadful attacking watch. Each game an identikit of the previous one. Just feel so unenthusiastic about going to the games at the moment.

[wookie70]

Thought the subs improve us by virtue of just moving around. Allan actually played a few nice passes and despite clearly not being able to run he was more effective than Henderson was. Melkerson again wasn't great but he was a vast improvement over Doidge. I think we are going through the motions and for all posters are saying there is lots of effort I saw a massive improvement in movement when we made the subs. Even Allan made moves into space more than Henderson who for the most part looked like he was marking a man when we had the ball. We would improve with some of the players who are out but I'm not sure it would be dramatic and I can't say I am looking forward to watching us even if Maloney does get it working the way it should

[bigwheel]

That's an absolute stick on. Just a dreadful team to watch with no exciting play or entertainment. Maloney will be sacked at some point in his Hibs career, hopefully at the end of the season but suspect it will be before the next January window. Solid defensively but a dreadful attacking watch. Each game an idetikit of the previous one. Just feel so unenthusiastic about going to the games at the moment.

Ffs……of course it is dreadful….he will understand that. what part of 11 injuries, most of them certain starters, is not being taken into account. The team , and style of play, that starts next season under Maloney will be so far away from what we are seeing. It is impossible to judge Maloney just now.


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[Leith Green]

That was a difficult watch today , really was.. Im hoping mostly down to injured players missing .. Not convinced thats the main reason though to be honest , bit of a pattern emerging with lack of goals and creativity

[hibee-boys]

Just back - that was awful. Almost contrived to make £5 seem like a rip off (never mind the ST price). No guile from anyone really. Doig was our best player by a mile.

Doidge shouldn't be starting, getting absolutely nothing from him.

Our midfield needs cleared out in the summer - JDH, Campbell and Newell are far too negative minded and every team knows they pass back or sideways. Moment in 1st half where Porteous had the ball and JDH and Campbell were standing still, no attempt to get space or anything.

Movement from midfield forward is absolutely atrocious. No interchanging or coming short to run in behind. Genuinely look absolutely clueless in attack and in build up play.

Glad our January signings are mainly loan with option to buy. We shouldn't be going near any of them - none have made a decent impression. Rocky is closest to looking ok but is weak in the air for a CB.

No intent. Maloney and the club have a massive summer ahead. Qualify for Europe and get destroyed in first tie if this is what we have in mind.

Campbell, JDH and Wright make Joe Newell look like Platini in comparison, Joe was playing well prior to his injury.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Turgid stuff. How many times do we pass sideways and backwards allowing an opposition to get their shape back. Someone needs a word in the wee mans ear that this isn't rugby and the forward pass is allowed.

[Weir07]

[QUOTE=bigwheel;6881176]Ffs……of course it is dreadful….he will understand that. what part of 11 injuries, most of them certain starters, is not being taken into account. The team , and style of play, that starts next season under Maloney will be so far away from what we are seeing. It is impossible to judge Maloney just now.

Of course he can be judged, every game since the winter break has been the same, maybe apart from Arbroath. No idea why you think there will be a big turnaround next season, where's the evidence of that?

[bigwheel]

[QUOTE=bigwheel;6881176]Ffs……of course it is dreadful….he will understand that. what part of 11 injuries, most of them certain starters, is not being taken into account. The team , and style of play, that starts next season under Maloney will be so far away from what we are seeing. It is impossible to judge Maloney just now.

Of course he can be judged, every game since the winter break has been the same, maybe apart from Arbroath. No idea why you think there will be a big turnaround next season, where's the evidence of that?

Anyone who thinks this team with 7 key starters missing and yet to replace Boyle, is a representation of what Maloney is trying to do and what we will get next season- frankly have their head in the sand ….and I say that as someone who was completely underwhelmed with his appointment . He has no chance of giving us anything much better than we are getting , until he gets players back .

[GreenCastle]

Ffs……of course it is dreadful….he will understand that. what part of 11 injuries, most of them certain starters, is not being taken into account. The team , and style of play, that starts next season under Maloney will be so far away from what we are seeing. It is impossible to judge Maloney just now.

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Would imagine from those who played today.. who will still be about next season..

Porto
Doig
Stevenson
JDH
Cadden
Jasper
Melkersen
Henderson

Wright, Allan, Campbell possibly and Doidge I reckon will be away.

That’s still 8 of the group who played today who will be about next season. We need more quality as that 8 isn’t great. Even with some injured players added we add forward thinking players, Leadership, pace and most importantly assists and goals.

[flash]

Glad our January signings are mainly loan with option to buy. We shouldn't be going near any of them - none have made a decent impression. Rocky is closest to looking ok but is weak in the air for a CB.

No intent. Maloney and the club have a massive summer ahead. Qualify for Europe and get destroyed in first tie if this is what we have in mind.[/QUOTE]

A bit confused by this point.

Clarke hasn't played and the Norwegians barely have either.

Jasper has been our best attacking player by far and Rocky has been fine.

Mitchell was also looking good before his injury.

So who are you actually talking about?

[H18 SFR]

I think if Maloney commits to start playing a pair up top we will bury Motherwell next week.

[JohnM1875]

I think if Maloney commits to start playing a pair up top we will bury Motherwell next week.

Almost no chance of that happening. He's so committed to the formation we had Cadden at right centre back for a period today.

Saying that I'm honestly not even sure what formation we were playing first half, so who knows.

[Tyler Durden]

Maloney talked before the game about being aggressive in attack, taking risks, intensity. We basically saw none of that. JDH and Drey Wright would rather turn back than play a pass that’s 60/40 in their favour. Campbell doesn’t have the technical ability.

Injuries or not you really have to question what we’re doing in training. No real variety or invention in the set pieces either. Just not good enough

[JohnM1875]

Maloney talked before the game about being aggressive in attack, taking risks, intensity. We basically saw none of that. JDH and Drey Wright would rather turn back than play a pass that’s 60/40 in their favour. Campbell doesn’t have the technical ability.

Injuries or not you really have to question what we’re doing in training. No real variety or invention in the set pieces either. Just not good enough

It's the 'not being afraid to lose the ball' chat that's worrying me! Everyone seems **** scared to lose the ball!

[JamesHFC]

Defensively look solid but going forward we offer nothing. The players we currently have available aren’t good enough to see teams off.

[H18 SFR]

I liked the look of Melkerson.

[JohnM1875]

I liked the look of Melkerson.

Melkersen 😉 but same! Love that he seems to have a wee bit about him. Also probably double the pace of Doidge and Nisbet.

Looking forward to see what he can offer when he's fully in the swing of things. Reminds me of the on loan Kamberi.

[hibeejeebies]

Melkersen 😉 but same! Love that he seems to have a wee bit about him. Also probably double the pace of Doidge and Nisbet.

Looking forward to see what he can offer when he's fully in the swing of things. Reminds me of the on loan Kamberi.

Loved him telling the St Johnstone boy to get up.

[B.H.F.C]

Defensively look solid but going forward we offer nothing. The players we currently have available aren’t good enough to see teams off.

We are definitely solid but my fear is it’s only down to playing so many defensive minded players.

Our ‘attacking’ players that we signed in January have added nothing. If Henderson didn’t have a brother called Henderson he’d be getting chased.

[B.H.F.C]

I liked the look of Melkerson.

Has to play. Just for the fact he moved. Doidge was an absolute disgrace today.

[Paulie Walnuts]

We are definitely solid but my fear is it’s only down to playing so many defensive minded players.

Our ‘attacking’ players that we signed in January have added nothing. If Henderson didn’t have a brother called Henderson he’d be getting chased.

I said the same after the game. Whilst our defensive record is commendable, I can only think it’s quite so good because we don’t commit anyone beyond the ball or at any sort of pace. As such, we’re next to never caught out of position.

[GreenCastle]

I said the same after the game. Whilst our defensive record is commendable, I can only think it’s quite so good because we don’t commit anyone beyond the ball or at any sort of pace. As such, we’re next to never caught out of position.

Exactly this - we rarely get hit on counter as we have.

Goalkeeper
Back 3
2 holding players

That’s 6 players.

That leaves 5 against an opposition back 4 usually and Gk plus a holder - so 5 v 6 or 7 making it really hard to score goals unless De Bruyne is in your team beating players regularly.

My worry is we go 1-0 down - no chance we are scoring 2 goals.

[JohnM1875]

Exactly this - we rarely get hit in counter as we have.

Goalkeeper
Back 3
2 holding players

That’s 6 players.

That leaves 5 against an opposition back 4 usually and Gk plus a holder - so 5 v 6 or 7 making it really hard to score goals unless De Bruyne is in your team beating players regularly.


And most importantly almost zero pace.

[Nicho87]

Loved that Melkersen and Hauge stayed out for pics with the kids and big kids. It’s little things that count and on todays 90 minutes that was probably someone’s highlight.

He should start next week maybe with doidge but on current showing I personally think doidge will be away. I can’t see maloney having a one paced pony up front in his plan for fast attacking pressing football.

[WeeRussell]

Loved that Melkersen and Hauge stayed out for pics with the kids and big kids. It’s little things that count and on todays 90 minutes that was probably someone’s highlight.

He should start next week maybe with doidge but on current showing I personally think doidge will be away. I can’t see maloney having a one paced pony up front in his plan for fast attacking pressing football.

Doidge shouldn’t be starting in my opinion. He’s already had more minutes than his performances deserve.

Like the big guy but we need to be giving our new lad the main centre forward responsibility, in the absence of Nisbet.

[Green_one]

Don’t think we are risking much by playing Melkersen. He looks hungry and Doidge looks like a player who has totally lost his edge.

If we do nothing for the rest of the season I would at least like to see some of the younger players get game time.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Loved that Melkersen and Hauge stayed out for pics with the kids and big kids. It’s little things that count and on todays 90 minutes that was probably someone’s highlight.

He should start next week maybe with doidge but on current showing I personally think doidge will be away. I can’t see maloney having a one paced pony up front in his plan for fast attacking pressing football.

Agree. They seem like they’re absolutely loving being here.

[hfcok]

I don’t see what Henderson brings, he looked so slow, and defo not up for a fight.

[Ronniekirk]

Ffs……of course it is dreadful….he will understand that. what part of 11 injuries, most of them certain starters, is not being taken into account. The team , and style of play, that starts next season under Maloney will be so far away from what we are seeing. It is impossible to judge Maloney just now.


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A lot of players were given extended contracts just before Maloney came it might not be that easy to move some players on
Also Porto could go in the summer and Doig is finding form again so could be subject of bids
I would think Maloney won’t want to loose iether but that may be out with his control
So we could well be in yet a further period of transition
It’s going to be a difficult time that’s for sure
A baptism of fire that could see him crash and burn or go on to set the Heather on fire [emoji91]
Time will tell but in the meantime I pick and choose my games



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[madhatter]

Glad our January signings are mainly loan with option to buy. We shouldn't be going near any of them - none have made a decent impression. Rocky is closest to looking ok but is weak in the air for a CB.

No intent. Maloney and the club have a massive summer ahead. Qualify for Europe and get destroyed in first tie if this is what we have in mind.

A bit confused by this point.

Clarke hasn't played and the Norwegians barely have either.

Jasper has been our best attacking player by far and Rocky has been fine.

Mitchell was also looking good before his injury.

So who are you actually talking about?

Clarke, granted not seen but being injured is a common theme at Hibs. Do we have enough physios?

Jasper best attacking player while we seem unable to create concrete chances. Barely able to get into opponent's box. Looked knackered in the first half, unable to press properly which drove Maloney crazy. Hardly something of merit.

Mitchell has looked alright but Doig is better. Also, see Clarke point for Mitchell.

Norwegians? Melkerson has shown glimpses in his limited time. Hauge looks less ready. Neither at this stage look like they could hold down a first team place. Might change once they get up to speed.

As I've also mentioned Bushiri's aerial and heading ability is pretty poor for a CB. His touch has improved as it was very poor when he first started but still not a player I would be splashing cash on.

Data based signings- why would we sign players that commonly earn 0-0 draws? A few of them without a single shot on target. Maloney has said it's a base to build from, I'd argue it isn't, after playing 2 of the bottom clubs and looking about on par with them. Incredible luck still to be 4th.

Average January window.