Rangers v Hibs

[GreenCastle]

Campbell needs a good few weeks out the firing line. Nowhere near the level needed right now.

This is the thing he’s been thrown in regularly and expected to do well but you need to her very good to perform well every week let alone in a team struggling and not much midfield.

The worst part is the lack of recruitment has really made the central part of the team so predictable.

[Callum_62]

2 big chances there to make it dodgy last few mins

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[weecounty hibby]

Last 2 minutes have been all Hibs!!

[J-C]

Nisbet cannot header a ball, absolutely pish.

Edit, my mistake it was Doidge, still pish.

[Andymac85]

Cadden has to square that.

[PeeJay]

This is nonsense, they've lost 2 league games in the last season and a half, but aye they aren't good....

Tonight - pay attention!

[bod]

It's not looking promising. We're a mess at the moment, real possibility of a bottom 6 finish. Wouldn't be surprised if there's a break clause in Maloney's contract that will be utilised once the season is finished.

We were top of the table after 8(?) Games, what a complete farce this season could be.

If only the league lasted that long

[Keyser Sauzee]

Meuller is looking like he will be a good signing for us.

[wookie70]

We look ok when we commit a couple of men forward. That is a very rare occurence though and we sit deeper with Maloney than we did with Ross which is hard to believe is possible

[Since452]

As frustrated as I am tonight wasn't the test. Arbroath on Sunday is huge. For the players confidence in Maloney and Caldwell especially.

[madhatter]

He's a development style player whose been rushed in too fast IMO, for me he has something but young guys playing a whole season at this level is asking for burnout.

He's almost 22. Almost same age as Porteous and younger than Doig.

[Sir David Gray]

It's not looking promising. We're a mess at the moment, real possibility of a bottom 6 finish. Wouldn't be surprised if there's a break clause in Maloney's contract that will be utilised once the season is finished.

We were top of the table after 8(?) Games, what a complete farce this season could be.

We had 15 points after the first 7 games and have picked up 16 points in the 19 games since.

[Johnny_Leith]

We had 15 points after the first 7 games and have picked up 16 points in the 19 games since.

That does not make easy reading!

[Leith Green]

Unfortunately that laddie is going to end up one of the scapegoats of this side.
We need to be asking questions of the maloney appointment now,terrible decisions being made at the club.


Unfortunately he seems to have developed a nasty habit of losing possession cheaply in dangerous areas and when we have players pushed forwards.. I actually do feel sorry for campbell , he was never the answer to be honest. The fact we threw him into the side after macgennis was injured and continue to play him speaks volumes for our poor recruitment and lack of ability to build a decent squad over 3 or 4 transfer windows

[Ronniekirk]

I think if all the other results stay as they are tonight we’ll be 8th with St Mirren in 7th with a game in hand. Not looking good for the split it seems.

We are in such a mess just now I have resigned myself to being in bottom six
Am now in Survival mode as everyone will see us just now as the team to beat and believe they can beat us just my opinion but we have snot ourselves in the foot I fear



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[silverhibee]

Some job by those in charge to give Campbell a long term deal because he ran about a lot against Rangers in the semi.

Who gave him the long term deal.

[CMac1988]

Great strike from Jasper, good save.

[Callum_62]

Great save mcgregor from Jasper

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[007]

Great effort by Jasper.

[Lago]

On a positive note Jambos beaten by Dundee. And we're back to 7th ��

[AdidasHibernian]

Who gave him the long term deal.

Stevie Wonder probably

[SHODAN]

This performance actually hasn't been bad. We just can't ****ing score.

[Callum_62]

On a positive note Jambos beaten by Dundee.Nonsure thats positive for us the way we are going!

Mueller is a player btw

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[A Hi-Bee]

Cadden has to square that.

Like a headless chicken at times, but he is one of the better ones, just another reason why we are not scoring goals.

[where'stheslope]

On a positive note Jambos beaten by Dundee.
Unfortunately brings them closer to us!!!!

[007]

Never a free kick, should have been another corner.

[Unseen work]

Caddens final ball/decision making is non existent.

On another note why has it took us the last 7 minutes to have a go.

[Cropley10]

Hibernian Nil. Wrong Gordon.

[Dmas]

Starting line up we were beat before a ball kicked.window a shambles,new coaching team inexperienced shambles,ownership clueless.

Mowbray stubbs inexperienced managers, Calderwood butcher experienced managers it doesn’t really matter does it some work, some don’t but they do deserve a fair crack at the whip fowk thinking because SM worked with Belgium he’s going to turn JR’s team of fine margin dwellers into world beaters within a fortnight are kidding themselves on

[J-C]

Who gave him the long term deal.

Must've been on the recommendation of Ross, signed on 1/12/21, Ross got booted on the 9th.

[JohnM1875]

Mueller, Rocky, Hendo and Jasper all look like good signings. Mitchell no bad either. No sure how much we'll see of Clark this season but if we can get Newell and Magennis back I think we have a really good squad.

[S4uzee]

Brace yourselves, we’re in a relegation battle

[where'stheslope]

Brace yourselves, we’re in a relegation battle
Not that bad YET!!!

[Keepthefaith]

Mueller, Rocky, Hendo and Jasper all look like good signings. Mitchell no bad either. No sure how much we'll see of Clark this season but if we can get Newell and Magennis back I think we have a really good squad.

Well said. Only 2 points off 4th. Folk need to get a grip and support the team!

[Allant1981]

Brace yourselves, we’re in a relegation battle

We really arent

[Joe6-2]

Mueller, Rocky, Hendo and Jasper all look like good signings. Mitchell no bad either. No sure how much we'll see of Clark this season but if we can get Newell and Magennis back I think we have a really good squad.

Really do need them back

[weecounty hibby]

I only saw from just after the hun scored the 2nd goal and to be honest I have seen us play much worse at ibrox. Some decent passages of play, created some half decent chances. No one likes to lose to these *******s but sadly they are not who we should be judging ourselves right now. They and celtic have once again spent so much money that there will never be a challenge by any club for 1st or 2nd place

[Paulie Walnuts]

Must've been on the recommendation of Ross, signed on 1/12/21, Ross got booted on the 9th.

An outstanding parting gift from JR. Was it Mowbray who left us with Malowski on a long contract?

[LunasBoots]

Wasn't as awful as I expected, another defeat though and probably to be expected on current form but we didn't get hummed which is a small positive with such a out of form squad.

[A Hi-Bee]

Brace yourselves, we’re in a relegation battle

So are the mighty sheep very close we need to start winning very soon.

[Unseen work]

Brace yourselves, we’re in a relegation battle

This is my real fear.

The league is a bit mental right now.

7th place and 2 points off 4th but also not too far away from the bottom

We need to get our act together and quick.

[Sir David Gray]

Brace yourselves, we’re in a relegation battle

Not quite although it is really alarming and doesn't fill me with much hope next season.

[mcohibs]

Brace yourselves, we’re in a relegation battle

Brace yourself, we're 2 points off fourth place

[Lago]

Brace yourselves, we’re in a relegation battle
Nonsense

[JJP]

This season just keeps getting worse. Can’t stand watching this team right now. So dull. Not even a hint of excitement. Exciting attacking football my arse.

[The Captain....]

Another goalless game.

Midfield that can't create or defend particularly well, defenders who gift the opposition the ball repeatedly in dangerous areas and forwards who never look like scoring again.

Every window we get worse, so I have no faith we'll do anything about it in the Summer.

****ing shameful state we are in.

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[loanheadhibby]

Mueller, Rocky, Hendo and Jasper all look like good signings. Mitchell no bad either. No sure how much we'll see of Clark this season but if we can get Newell and Magennis back I think we have a really good squad.

How can you possibly think we have a good squad? We are absolutely chronic. Wake up quickly as we’re in big trouble.

[007]

On a positive note Jambos beaten by Dundee. And we're back to 7th ��

They are still comfortably in pole position to be least worst of the rest.

[JamesHFC]

Really didn’t expect to win tonight. Nowhere near a relegation battle. Bring on Arbroath.

[Sean1875]

Just trying to stay positive. Still miraculously 2 points behind 4th. Could really do with a nice comfortable victory on Sunday but not getting my hopes up.


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[Paulie Walnuts]

This performance actually hasn't been bad. We just can't ****ing score.

Agree. Taken in isolation, it wasn’t that bad. Nothing to write home about but there’s been a hell of a lot worse performances at Ibrox.

We need results though and we need them fast. If that game had been played on the back of a 4 game winning run I don’t think folk would be all that pissed off. This run can’t go on much longer in the league. Must win against RC.

[GRA]

Brace yourselves, we’re in a relegation battle

FFS this is trolling surely? 10 points away from 11th and only 2 points off 4th!

[S4uzee]

Nonsense

We can’t score a goal and look at the form guide. Going the way of 2014.

Aberdeen/Hearts away and Celtic at home before the split

[MWHIBBIES]

If we are in a relegation battle now, we have been since Saturday because tonight changes nothing. A nothing game in our current form.

We'll be nowhere near relegation. Sadly, we'll be nowhere near 3rd either.

[A Hi-Bee]

This season just keeps getting worse. Can’t stand watching this team right now. So dull. Not even a hint of excitement. Exciting attacking football my arse.

You would be better going to the cinema!!

[JohnM1875]

How can you possibly think we have a good squad? We are absolutely chronic. Wake up quickly as we’re in big trouble.

Because we have?

Results haven't been anywhere near what we'd want recently but we have a good group of players.

Missing a good central midfielder and a striker for sure.

[Tambo]

Sad to say didn't really expect much before kick-off and was the result I expected.

I think it says it all so far this season, with Boyle gone our player off the season so far is Chris Cadden!

[Lago]

Brace yourself, we're 2 points off fourth place
And 10 off Dundee

[Paulie Walnuts]

If we are in a relegation battle now, we have been since Saturday because tonight changes nothing. A nothing game in our current form.

We'll be nowhere near relegation. Sadly, we'll be nowhere near 3rd either.

Nobody will, Hearts have that wrapped up.

Edit: just seen they got beat :greengrin

[thebausburst]

Not that disappointed tbh as totally resigned to defeat before the game and completely lost interest just now I’m ashamed to say.

[S4uzee]

FFS this is trolling surely? 10 points away from 11th and only 2 points off 4th!

We’re not picking up any points, teams below us are and even WINNING

[H18 SFR]

Because we have?

Results haven't been anywhere near what we'd want recently but we have a good group of players.

Missing a good central midfielder and a striker for sure.

I agree we have a good squad. Fire a good manger in there and we’d be capable of the semi in the cup and climbing the table.

[GreenCastle]

Arbroath game is massive for Maloney. Didn’t expect anything tonight but playing a team who haven’t lost at home all season - we really need to be winning that.

[Unseen work]

I think the dissapointing thing for me in the second half was the lack of intensity.

We never going going until the last 5.

Playing through the break well until it got to centre mid and then it went back.

If we break the press we need to go forward and at pace

[Since452]

Six games without a league win. One win since the break, an extra time win against part time Cove. We are absolutely brutal. Hopefully we can navigate past Arbroath and pick up something against Ross County. We are sleep walking down the table.

[delbert]

How can you possibly think we have a good squad? We are absolutely chronic. Wake up quickly as we’re in big trouble.

Never mind, someone will be along soon to tell us we should have won 5-0 !

[Heisenberg]

I think the dissapointing thing for me in the second half was the lack of intensity.

We never going going until the last 5.

Playing through the break well until it got to centre mid and then it went back.

If we break the press we need to go forward and at pace

The centre of our midfield has been an issue for most of the season and neither Ross or Maloney have managed to sort it. ****ing baffling we’ve gone with what we have in there for the second half of this season.

[J-C]

Didn't expect to win tonight, an error from McGinn and a decent strike but poor keeping from Macey did us. One or two players have really regressed, JDH, Nisbet and McGinn in particular. Jasper, Mitchell and Mueller look like proper players but too many average ones around them.

Only bonus tonight is my prediction in the league table was bang on for a change.

[basehibby]

Because he was useless , lucky cup runs meaningless, as resulted several times into nothing.
That's more than harsh- its plain out of order BS! Every cup run means something to any Hibs fan and Ross presided over a few. He's gone for good or ill - part of Hibees history - no need to reinvent it.

[Lago]

This season just keeps getting worse. Can’t stand watching this team right now. So dull. Not even a hint of excitement. Exciting attacking football my arse.
The football has been the same from season start so I'm supprised your bothering to watch it at all.

[Cropley10]

ok, I'll try.

Is it 17 plus tomatoes and red gravel?

Don’t score goals in hours and hours of football. Owner thinks he knows what he’s doing. Hope this helps

[WhileTheChief..]

Another game of nothing from us.

Not really anything to say that hasn’t been said after pretty much every game this season.

[EVENTUALLY]

Thought Mueller played positively. Took possession turned and went forward very well. Jasper less so but he tried to go forward too.

Ryan Porteous played well and Cadden put in a decent shift.

That was it.

[J-C]

The centre of our midfield has been an issue for most of the season and neither Ross or Maloney have managed to sort it. ****ing baffling we’ve gone with what we have in there for the second half of this season.


I still think they pinned their hopes on Magennis being ready to go but the lad is made of breadsticks, getting injured so close to the end of the window probably threw a spanner in the works.

[Since452]

The centre of our midfield has been an issue for most of the season and neither Ross or Maloney have managed to sort it. ****ing baffling we’ve gone with what we have in there for the second half of this season.

We were top of the league or there abouts until Magennis got injured. He's been a massive loss.

[basehibby]

Getting to the stage where I’m not actually wanting Dundee to win here.

That's beyond surrealism

[basehibby]

We were top of the league or there abouts until Magennis got injured. He's been a massive loss.

Very true. This season has been a disaster with injuries to key players and Kyle's probably cost us most. Hope he gets back on the pitch soon.

[loanheadhibby]

Because we have?

Results haven't been anywhere near what we'd want recently but we have a good group of players.

Missing a good central midfielder and a striker for sure.

If we had a good group of players, how come we’re losing every week and not scoring? We’ve got 25 bang/below average players and 4 or 5 decent players.

A good squad/team don’t go on the run we are on.

Something at the club is not right.

[Paulie Walnuts]

We were top of the league or there abouts until Magennis got injured. He's been a massive loss.

If we could get rid of him in the summer then we should. Had about 10 decent games out him in 2 seasons.

[Potty78]

If we are in a relegation battle now, we have been since Saturday because tonight changes nothing. A nothing game in our current form.

We'll be nowhere near relegation. Sadly, we'll be nowhere near 3rd either.
We really need to win 2 of the next 3 league games or we could be in trouble. This has a bit of the Butcher season about it. Really hope I'm wrong🤞

[tonyrougier123]

I still think they pinned their hopes on Magennis being ready to go but the lad is made of breadsticks, getting injured so close to the end of the window probably threw a spanner in the works.

Shouldn’t be relying on one player,especially a player who imo still has some way to go to prove himself as a hibs player.some promise not enough though overall.

[where'stheslope]

Just how much did Boyle really give to this team?
Since he's gone, the money in the bank has not brought points????

[CmoantheHibs]

I thought the team tried very hard. We had some good spells but still lack a cutting edge. Cadden seems to link up well with Jasper and Muller and that is where our main attacking threat comes from.

[MWHIBBIES]

We really need to win 2 of the next 3 league games or we could be in trouble. This has a bit of the Butcher season about it. Really hope I'm wrong🤞

If we win 2 of the next 10 we'll be fine.

It is actually nothing like the butcher season.

Seriously, look at the table instead of pissing your pants. We're actually nowhere near relegation.

Not that that is something to celebrate.

[The Harp Awakes]

We've just come through a transfer window and days later fielded 3 left backs in the starting line up. Wtf is going on with recruitment.

[Sir David Gray]

If we win 2 of the next 10 we'll be fine.

It is actually nothing like the butcher season.

Seriously, look at the table instead of pissing your pants. We're actually nowhere near relegation.

Not that that is something to celebrate.

It's actually not as far away from the Butcher season as you might think.

After 26 games of the 13/14 season we were 7th with 32 points.

After 26 games of this season we are 7th with 31 points.

[Hibs90]

We've just come through a transfer window and days later fielded 3 left backs in the starting line up. Wtf is going on with recruitment.

Ask the owner, or the CEO or the owners laddie.

Clubs a shambles, our problems go deeper than the dugout I’m afraid.

[Since452]

It's actually not as far away from the Butcher season as you might think.

After 26 games of the 13/14 season we were 7th with 32 points.

After 26 games of this season we are 7th with 31 points.

Sweet dreams children...

[Hibeesforever]

It's actually not as far away from the Butcher season as you might think.

After 26 games of the 13/14 season we were 7th with 32 points.

After 26 games of this season we are 7th with 31 points.

Wow, the club need to wake up now

[PH91]

Didn't expect to win tonight, an error from McGinn and a decent strike but poor keeping from Macey did us. One or two players have really regressed, JDH, Nisbet and McGinn in particular. Jasper, Mitchell and Mueller look like proper players but too many average ones around them.

Only bonus tonight is my prediction in the league table was bang on for a change.

Mitchell a proper player! Wtf are you watching?

[Smartie]

How can you possibly think we have a good squad? We are absolutely chronic. Wake up quickly as we’re in big trouble.

We’ve got a lot of good players who would be very useful under different circumstances.

Unfortunately we have more than one Achilles heel, and they are going to be very costly.

[Mr Grieves]

We've just come through a transfer window and days later fielded 3 left backs in the starting line up. Wtf is going on with recruitment.

Mathie had a shocker of a summer transfer window followed by Ron's laddie having a shocker of a January window

[Glory Lurker]

It's actually not as far away from the Butcher season as you might think.

After 26 games of the 13/14 season we were 7th with 32 points.

After 26 games of this season we are 7th with 31 points.


Keep your depressing stats to the coronavirus thread! :greengrin

[loanheadhibby]

It's actually not as far away from the Butcher season as you might think.

After 26 games of the 13/14 season we were 7th with 32 points.

After 26 games of this season we are 7th with 31 points.

Jeez what a horrific stat.

If this does not focus minds at the club, nothing will.

[B.H.F.C]

We recovered from the goal and did all right first half.

But it’s hard playing football without anyone in the middle of the park or up front. If only there was a transfer window coming up…..

[JohnM1875]

If we had a good group of players, how come we’re losing every week and not scoring? We’ve got 25 bang/below average players and 4 or 5 decent players.

A good squad/team don’t go on the run we are on.

Something at the club is not right.


Macey/Dabrowski

Porto Rocky Hanlon

Cadden Newell Henderson Magennis Doig/Stevenon

Mueller Nisbet

in my opinion is a good starting XI out with the uglies in the league. Add Jasper, Mitchell, JDH, Clark into that as well.

We need to start scoring goals I completely agree and our strikers really need to step up.

[Hibeesforever]

Mathie had a shocker of a summer transfer window followed by Ron's laddie having a shocker of a January window

Ron tried to save money and do the window on the cheap...look at the state of the squad, shambles!

[007]

Never mind, someone will be along soon to tell us we should have won 5-0 !

Maloney interview maybe on Sportsound shortly.

[Alfred E Newman]

It's actually not as far away from the Butcher season as you might think.

After 26 games of the 13/14 season we were 7th with 32 points.

After 26 games of this season we are 7th with 31 points.

Abandon ship! :shocked::shocked:

[Paulie Walnuts]

Ron tried to save money and do the window on the cheap...look at the state of the squad, shambles!

We paid out one of the largest fees we’ve ever paid if reports are to be believed.

I don’t think we done it on the cheap. We just done it horribly wrong.

[Since452]

Maloney interview maybe on Sportsound shortly.

I've stopped listening to him. Just waffles.

[Nicho87]

It's actually not as far away from the Butcher season as you might think.

After 26 games of the 13/14 season we were 7th with 32 points.

After 26 games of this season we are 7th with 31 points.

Absolutely nothing to worry about here because

We are building a young, hungry, dynamic attacking team
We don’t score many goals
We don’t look like scoring
Dundee can go to Tynie and win
Our bogey team st Johnstone are the doomed club this year

All is good on Ron’s ship

[cabbageandribs1875]

i'm hoping Dabrowski was only dropped with Macey having maybe a little more 1st team experience for tonight

[basehibby]

Starting line up we were beat before a ball kicked.window a shambles,new coaching team inexperienced shambles,ownership clueless.

All true - but then as Yaz and the Plastic Revolution said - only way is up baby

But wtf did she know about football

[JamesHFC]

I've stopped listening to him. Just waffles.

The last three managers have waffled on tbh, Lennon the only one who said it how it is.

[Nicho87]

I've stopped listening to him. Just waffles.

I’ll guess

Players gave me everything
Difficult opponent
We just need to work on that cutting edge up front

Roughly

[Haymaker]

We could have gotten Griffiths for free.

[flash]

I've stopped listening to him. Just waffles.

Much like me with you on here.

[cabbageandribs1875]

I've stopped listening to him. Just waffles.


i've honestly not heard *more than 30 seconds since he got the gig


does he at least talk a good game :greengrin




* i was the same with heckingbottom btw :)

[SaulGoodman]

I’ll guess

Players gave me everything
Difficult opponent
We just need to work on that cutting edge up front

Roughly

Would he be wrong?

[loanheadhibby]

Macey/Dabrowski

Porto Rocky Hanlon

Cadden Newell Henderson Magennis Doig/Stevenon

Mueller Nisbet

in my opinion is a good starting XI out with the uglies in the league. Add Jasper, Mitchell, JDH, Clark into that as well.

We need to start scoring goals I completely agree and our strikers really need to step up.

But these guys are all playing every week? We’ve hardly won a game since September.

I wished I shared your optimism but at the moment we are in free fall and these players you mention are not good enough.

[JohnM1875]

i've honestly not heard more than 30 seconds since he got the gig


does he at least talk a good game :greengrin

He always seems to have a really itchy left wrist in interviews.

[basehibby]

Some job by those in charge to give Campbell a long term deal because he ran about a lot against Rangers in the semi.

Give Josh a chance - he's been thrown into the lions den a bit. I reckon he'll lick his wounds and come back stronger

[loanheadhibby]

I think JR would have steadied the ship. I certainly felt safer playing badly under him. Before I’m slated, I want SM to succeed, but I’m not going to pretend that things are looking better under him. Bar the odd bit of decent play, we are a mess.
We were a mess under JR.
Losses v Ross C and Livingston where we had 4 players red carded (I think) sealed his fate.
And the football was awful.
I'm not saying things have improved under SM but we have lost our most threatening player and have to give the new manager a chance.

[H18S NX]

Goals win games,unfortunately we are short in that department.

[JohnM1875]

But these guys are all playing every week? We’ve hardly won a game since September.

I wished I shared your optimism but at the moment we are in free fall and these players you mention are not good enough.

Majority of them were good enough to finish third last season though. They haven't become poor over night and the league hasn't become so much better they can no longer compete over night.

Still only two points off fourth. I know it's quite depressing being where we are when we really should have kicked on after finishing third. But there's still plenty games left and I do think we'll come good starting on Sunday.

[wearehibernian]

Question is whether board buys into some kind of long term plan illustrated by maloney on a flow chart during his interview. Survive the season and then be equally ***** on return? Or not? Arbroath next... 👀

[AL-Qaholik]

Majority of them were good enough to finish third last season though. They haven't become poor over night and the league hasn't become so much better they can no longer compete over night.

Still only two points off fourth. I know it's quite depressing being where we are when we really should have kicked on after finishing third. But there's still plenty games left and I do think we'll come good starting on Sunday.

It's not "overnight" though, is it? We've picked up 15 points since September.

[Nicho87]

Would he be wrong?

Jack ross defended the players to the end, why?

Change it up.

It’s either the system/manager or the players.

We’re just off the back off three home games in 7 days, 1 point out 9

I’d like a manager to come out and say the results no where near good enough, we have high aspirations, some players need to buck up or they’ll be off for example.

[JohnM1875]

It's not "overnight" though, is it? We've picked up 15 points since September.

And we're still two points off fourth.

Anyone can beat anyone in the league right now, which for me is the most frustrating thing after finishing third last year. We really should have kicked on but we haven't.

As an example Dundee just beat Hearts at tiny.

[Paulie Walnuts]

We were a mess under JR.
Losses v Ross C and Livingston where we had 4 players red carded (I think) sealed his fate.
And the football was awful.
I'm not saying things have improved under SM but we have lost our most threatening player and have to give the new manager a chance.

Absolutely this.

We were a shambles under JR at the end. Results were even worse than they are, performances were just as bad and we’d lost all discipline.

Things haven’t really improved all that much but he had to go. It was all unravelling at a rate of knots and there was nothing to suggest he’d have turned it round. Even if Maloney can’t turn it round, we may well find that the 10 out of 12 we picked up immediately after Ross left could be the difference between a relegation battle or not. For that alone it could have been worth binning him.

[Orchard_Hibs]

Jack ross defended the players to the end, why?

Change it up.

It’s either the system/manager or the players.

We’re just off the back off three home games in 7 days, 1 point out 9

I’d like a manager to come out and say the results no where near good enough, we have high aspirations, some players need to buck up or they’ll be off for example.

I agree that we are total pap just now, but what your suggesting didn’t really work for butcher, and I don’t think it’ll work now either.

[wookie70]

It's actually not as far away from the Butcher season as you might think.

After 26 games of the 13/14 season we were 7th with 32 points.

After 26 games of this season we are 7th with 31 points.

I've lost my link to where you get that info could you post a link please. How many points were we above 11th at this stage in the Butcher season. I seem to recall many were saying things like 2 wins or even one win would be enough to not be in the playoffs. They were right but we never got the win. I can't see where a win is coming as we don't create that many chances and are very fragile at the back.

[Callum_62]

I've lost my link to where you get that info could you post a link please. How many points were we above 11th at this stage in the Butcher season. I seem to recall many were saying things like 2 wins or even one win would be enough to not be in the playoffs. They were right but we never got the win. I can't see where a win is coming as we don't create that many chances and are very fragile at the back.Are we fragile at the back?

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[Coco Bryce]

Are we fragile at the back?

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Playing from the back we are more than fragile.

[wookie70]

The last three managers have waffled on tbh, Lennon the only one who said it how it is.

He usually said It's not my fault and I hate Flo. He waffled just as much as the others and at some points sounded like he hadn't been at the game

[snedzuk]

Jack ross defended the players to the end, why?

Change it up.

It’s either the system/manager or the players.

We’re just off the back off three home games in 7 days, 1 point out 9

I’d like a manager to come out and say the results no where near good enough, we have high aspirations, some players need to buck up or they’ll be off for example.

Should've got mcinnes

[franck sauzee]

Please save some time and empty him now. He hasn't a clue. We play short and no one moves for an out ball. It's horrendous

[Paulie Walnuts]

Should've got mcinnes

He’s having a disaster at Killie.

[Callum_62]

Should've got mcinnesKillie fans might disagree after tonight!

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[wookie70]

Are we fragile at the back?

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Our goals against isn't horrific but we seem to chuck goals in at the worst times. That is likely to get worse with the Kamikaze passing at the back and I always think we sit far too deep and let teams get into our third far too easily for a team that struggles to defend crosses.

[Potty78]

If we win 2 of the next 10 we'll be fine.

It is actually nothing like the butcher season.

Seriously, look at the table instead of pissing your pants. We're actually nowhere near relegation.

Not that that is something to celebrate.

Mind when we needed one win out of ten to stay up under butcher. I'm not pissing my pants, it's an opinion.

[Lago]

Ron tried to save money and do the window on the cheap...look at the state of the squad, shambles!
On the cheap???

[JohnM1875]

I get folk being pissed off about the Livi result, I get folk being pissed off about the first half against St Mirren. But surely losing 2-0 at Ibrox given the injuries and depleted squad fitness (Mueller, Hendo and Rocky will all take time to get to full match fitness) we have isn't something to get too worked up over?

[Sir David Gray]

I've lost my link to where you get that info could you post a link please. How many points were we above 11th at this stage in the Butcher season. I seem to recall many were saying things like 2 wins or even one win would be enough to not be in the playoffs. They were right but we never got the win. I can't see where a win is coming as we don't create that many chances and are very fragile at the back.

We went to Rugby Park in February 2014 in our 26th league game and drew 1-1. As a result we were 7th and sitting 8 points above St Mirren who were 11th.

Tonight we sit 7th and 10 points above Dundee in 11th place.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/26202521

[loanheadhibby]

I get folk being pissed off about the Livi result, I get folk being pissed off about the first half against St Mirren. But surely losing 2-0 at Ibrox given the injuries and depleted squad fitness (Mueller, Hendo and Rocky will all take time to get to full match fitness) we have isn't something to get too worked up over?

But it’s not just tonight/St Mirren or Livi. We’ve been rotten since September. It’s a culmination or being rank with absolutely no light at end of the tunnel.

We’ve a rookie manager who appears to not have the knowledge/ability to get us out of this position.

Hopefully he gets the time but Sunday is already massive for him.

[660]

We were **** as expected. At least we didn’t get humped but it’s still difficult to take especially when you have to make the journey on trains full of cretinous huns.

The highlight was the new mueller song. Does anyone have the lyrics.

[wookie70]

We went to Rugby Park in February 2014 in our 26th league game and drew 1-1. As a result we were 7th and sitting 8 points above St Mirren who were 11th.

Tonight we sit 7th and 10 points above Dundee in 11th place.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/26202521

And back then we had a game in hand over St Mirren so very similar situation. Have a look at the formation and personnel on that link. Stevenson up front and Forster and Nelson as full backs and Hanlon at right wing. I get the BBC aren't very accurate but that team was scary bad.

[RIP]

Question is whether board buys into some kind of long term plan illustrated by maloney on a flow chart during his interview. Survive the season and then be equally ***** on return? Or not? Arbroath next... 👀

It’s the management that presented their plan. He was their choice over the guy that Mathie had recruited

[Rumble de Thump]

The replays showed McGinn won the ball but it's just what you would expect when playing Sevco. Onto the next game.

[Sir David Gray]

The replays showed McGinn won the ball but it's just what you would expect when playing Sevco. Onto the next game.

I didn't think they did to be honest. It was a stonewall penalty for me.

[Callum_62]

Sportscene look at the Porto pen perchance?

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[Potty78]

Sportscene look at the Porto pen perchance?

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Nope🤦*♂️

[Rumble de Thump]

I didn't think they did to be honest. It was a stonewall penalty for me.

The ball changed speed and bounced up after McGinn kicked it into the ground.

[Scotty Leither]

On the cheap???

I would say so, yes. Boyle was sold on the 21st of January.

A full 10 days left of the window with a reported £3m burning a hole (whether it's all up front or paid in stages, it's still £3m) and a high wage earner off the books and no adequate replacement sourced.

A clutch of loan players and a bunch of laddies signed to go straight to this B team that we're all meant to get enthused about while the first team is labouring to muster a shot at goal and the fans desperately in need of a lift.

Aye, "cheap" i think is appropriate.

[JimBHibees]

I thought the team tried very hard. We had some good spells but still lack a cutting edge. Cadden seems to link up well with Jasper and Muller and that is where our main attacking threat comes from.

Agree personally thought the workrate was very good. We don't look a threat though and have started giving away poor goals not a good mix. Thought some of the play second half was very good going forward especially down the right.

[bigwheel]

For a makeshift team the application and organisation was good . Errors still cost us ..Rocky losing Morelos was a very basic error .

Only really created decent chances towards the end of the match . But fair play to the team for keeping their shape and working hard . We need more quality though , particularly upfront. We look so lightweight there.

[Blackfordhibby]

Yes progress! when I went to bed we were eighth. Got up this morning we are seventh what's not to like.

[blackpoolhibs]

It's actually not as far away from the Butcher season as you might think.

After 26 games of the 13/14 season we were 7th with 32 points.

After 26 games of this season we are 7th with 31 points.

The saving grace is we have a much better side than the team Butcher had, no Tudor Jones, and the likes who were really pish, oh and i also forgot, we dont have Butcher. :brickwall

[Since90+2]

Ben Kensell will be sitting looking at the league table this morning more than a little nervous I would imagine.

We are closer to the bottom of the league than 3rd and there aren't many teams right now who I'd fancy us to beat. I'm not saying we will be relegated, but I certainly wouldn't be massively shocked if we got dragged down into something worrying.

Kensell made a massive call in sacking a proven manager like JR. Let's hope for all our sakes that doesn't prove to be a massive error of judgement.

[BSEJVT]

If we win 2 of the next 10 we'll be fine.

It is actually nothing like the butcher season.

Seriously, look at the table instead of pissing your pants. We're actually nowhere near relegation.

Not that that is something to celebrate.

I don't for a moment think it will come to it but if I recall correctly Butcher's team had even less to do than that and failed miserably to do so.

We dont look to have a goal in us, but plenty of mistakes

[SHODAN]

We went to Rugby Park in February 2014 in our 26th league game and drew 1-1. As a result we were 7th and sitting 8 points above St Mirren who were 11th.

Tonight we sit 7th and 10 points above Dundee in 11th place.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/26202521

The collapse under Butcher was an anomaly and will never happen again.


Maloney isn't stupid enough to tell the players they're all ***** and will be binned.

[MWHIBBIES]

I don't for a moment think it will come to it but if I recall correctly Butcher's team had even less to do than that and failed miserably to do so.

We dont look to have a goal in us, but plenty of mistakes

Yes, butchers team needed a point with about 5 weeks left. We've got months left, and a far, far better squad than 2014.

[Smartie]

The collapse under Butcher was an anomaly and will never happen again.


Maloney isn't stupid enough to tell the players they're all ***** and will be binned.

Maloney's also a rookie with no track record who was hired to replace a man who had a good track record, and who got on well with the players.

Obviously I'd expect Maloney's soft skills to be a good bit better than Butcher's, however I don't think it would be unthinkable for him to lose the trust of the players if this run were to go on for much longer. And that can be as dangerous as telling them they're all crap.

I don't think we'll go down - I think the bottom 2 in the league are too poor. I think we're in pretty desperate shape though and anyone who cannot see parallels with previous relegations are kidding themselves. Both of the previous teams to be relegated got a few points on the board early on and occasionally played ok through terrible runs of results, but couldn't score goals and ended up in calamitous freefalls.

The main issue for me is when you look at our last half dozen games, look at our next half dozen and then try to figure out where the points are going to come from. And they're not brilliant teams we're about to come up against either.

Teams who cannot score goals struggle. We are a team who cannot score goals.

[dchibs]

Sportscene look at the Porto pen perchance?

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wasn't on Sportscene last night Shaun said after the game that it was a penalty, has anybody got any footage of the incident I've yet to see it.

[BILLYHIBS]

wasn't on Sportscene last night Shaun said after the game that it was a penalty, has anybody got any footage of the incident I've yet to see it.

https://twitter.com/hibsnews1875/status/1491859658348367879?s=21

[Paulie Walnuts]

https://twitter.com/hibsnews1875/status/1491859658348367879?s=21

Stonewall penalty

[Callum_62]

Stonewall penaltyNever

Free kick to the guy holding the other guys who's running towards the ball

Clear as a handshake

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[Paulie Walnuts]

Never

Free kick to the guy holding the other guys who's running towards the ball

Clear as a handshake

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:greengrin

In all seriousness, it gets worse every time you see it. And surprise surprise, it doesn’t even get put in the highlights package

[BILLYHIBS]

Hun wrestles Porto to the floor with a rugby tackle from behind landing on top of him

Free kick to The Rangers obviously

[kaimendhibs]

:greengrin

In all seriousness, it gets worse every time you see it. And surprise surprise, it doesn’t even get put in the highlights package

Guessing that package not on hunscene

[Paulie Walnuts]

Guessing that package not on hunscene

Nope. Bizarrely it’s not even on Hibs highlights. We should be all over it highlighting it.