Griffiths

[Hibernian Verse]

As I said it would be performance related not handed to him next to his mcdonalds.

He'd need to work for it but if you get him fit he'll score goals, we create a hell of a lot more opportunities than Dundee for example.

The guy above is right though, it's all hypothetical, Maloney will know what he's getting and be fully informed if making a move.

I don't think he will but I would happily take him on a deal whereby it's completely up to him if he makes a good turn of it or not. He's not had to rely on himself playing well for years now in order to maintain any sort of income then he needs to sort himself out and I'd prefer he does that here than say Aberdeen.

You're not taking into account any of the time, money and staff hours it will take to get Griffiths anywhere near ready. He can't do it himself clearly or he would have already and we should be putting our resources into many, many other areas.

[ozwoody]

I don't because he would'nt be on high wages. It would be up to him but a 75% capacity Leigh Griffiths is better than most strikers in the SPFL.

If he doesn't get fit than more fool him.

McPake has spoke lately about a marked change in his attitude. Coming here, he'd get fit and score goals.

Such a long deal would obviously be performance based. Earn it at the home of his team.

Not much of a punt because there would be very little outlay.

This is a guy that can't get a starting position for the bottom team in the league, yet you think coming to hibs would get him fit and scoring goals? If he can't get fit enough to challenge for a place at dundee or Celtic, what makes you think he would be arsed for us?.How do you think the sell would be ? " hi, want to take a punt on an overweight, unfit player that can't get a game for worst team in league and who's parent club don't want him?" .
If it was any player that didn't have previous connection with Hibs, we would be up in arms, and rightly so.

[Gus]

If this was any other player with the baggage LG brings then .net in meltdown saying the player is to be nowhere near Hibs. Some of the things he has done, imagine the chants from the East if that's a jambo. Irrelevant of MH issues

He's had a very very good career but for one reason or another (alot self inflicted) it's not been a very long one as it could been. Mental Health gets talked about alot & quite rightly but I think on some occasions it is used as an excuse.

IF he wants to continue playing then only he can get himself to a level to do so. Think top level in Scotland is done & might need to look at L1 clubs.

Who knows. It's down to Leigh and his support network to decide on the next stage of his career

Thanks for the memories

[jacomo]

I don't because he would'nt be on high wages. It would be up to him but a 75% capacity Leigh Griffiths is better than most strikers in the SPFL.

If he doesn't get fit than more fool him.

McPake has spoke lately about a marked change in his attitude. Coming here, he'd get fit and score goals.

Such a long deal would obviously be performance based. Earn it at the home of his team.

Not much of a punt because there would be very little outlay.


Leigh seems highly focused on money so the idea he’d sign a cheap contract with us is somewhat laughable.

It would be nice to think he’d agree to a low basic with lucrative incentives but I doubt it.

[Since452]

I must be honest and say that I think signing Leigh Griffiths at this moment in time is one of the worst suggestions I've read on here in quite some time.

We would be signing someone based purely on their past form and affiliation to the club. Based on his form, fitness and off field behaviour over the last 2 years there's no danger you would touch Leigh Griffiths with a barge pole.

He's only 31 but is currently struggling to get a game for a Dundee side that's now lost 6 games in a row and sitting second bottom of the league.

Griffiths was some player for us but that was nearly 10 years ago and he really hasn't looked like he will rediscover that form any time soon.

Nail on head.

[erin go bragh]

Griffiths of old yes but as much as it pains me to say it , not now .

[Carheenlea]

I think he'd have knocked that one in the other night.


I think I would've

Would Griffiths, (or Killiehibbie..!) have been fit enough to break up the park and be in position to have a go at converting the chance?
Realistically, how long would it take for a footballer to shift the excess weight that Griffiths is carrying and to reach an acceptable level of fitness for a top flight club? Would take a large chunk of the remainder of season would it not?

[MWHIBBIES]

Would Griffiths, (or Killiehibbie..!) have been fit enough to break up the park and be in position to have a try at converting the chance?
Realistically, how long would it take for a footballer to shift the excess weight that Griffiths is carrying and to reach an acceptable level of fitness for a top flight club? Would take a large chunk of the remainder of season would it not?

Yes.

Tbh, do you even get in that shape mid season if you are serious about football? If he wasn't arsed to try for 20k a week at his beloved Celtic, he certainly won't here.

Also, he texts kids asking for pics, that fact seems to have been glossed over by those wanting him.

[MrSmith]

Yes.

Tbh, do you even get in that shape mid season if you are serious about football? If he wasn't arsed to try for 20k a week at his beloved Celtic, he certainly won't here.

Also, he texts kids asking for pics, that fact seems to have been glossed over by those wanting him.

l have only heard one instance of him asking for pics and for balance, the 15 year old girl actually came out and defended him. If you have further examples? Please share.

[MWHIBBIES]

l have only heard one instance of him asking for pics and for balance, the 15 year old girl actually came out and defended him. If you have further examples? Please share.

The 15 year old defended him? Is that supposed to be a defence of him? She's a child.

There is absolutely no defending asking a 15 year old for pictures. Zero.

[Killiehibbie]

Would Griffiths, (or Killiehibbie..!) have been fit enough to break up the park and be in position to have a go at converting the chance?
Realistically, how long would it take for a footballer to shift the excess weight that Griffiths is carrying and to reach an acceptable level of fitness for a top flight club? Would take a large chunk of the remainder of season would it not?

When I was Nisbets age definitely, at 31 probably, now that would be the hardest bit but give me a six month deal and I'll give it a go.

[WhileTheChief..]

l have only heard one instance of him asking for pics and for balance, the 15 year old girl actually came out and defended him. If you have further examples? Please share.

You can't be serious here??

[MrSmith]

The 15 year old defended him? Is that supposed to be a defence of him? She's a child.

There is absolutely no defending asking a 15 year old for pictures. Zero.

actually she came out said that her age was never mentioned and that if he knew, he probably wouldn’t have contacted her. However, I did ask you for further examples given you said “he text kids”.

[MrSmith]

You can't be serious here??

just going by the articles in the media and the quotes from the girl herself so, I don’t know quite what you are trying to insinuate?

[MWHIBBIES]

actually she came out said that her age was never mentioned and that if he knew, he probably wouldn’t have contacted her. However, I did ask you for further examples given you said “he text kids”.

He did text kids. She was 15 and he was texting her asking for pictures. Ignorance is no defence.

[MrSmith]

He did text kids. She was 15 and he was texting her asking for pictures. Ignorance is no defence.

One kid of which is bad enough but let’s be factual not selective with the truth.

[HoboHarry]

He did text kids. She was 15 and he was texting her asking for pictures. Ignorance is no defence.
How is the air quality from your location up there on the moral high ground? Not defending him, he was daft to respond but he wasn't (as far as I read) deliberately texting kids. Remind me - what action did the police take against him again?

[Iggy Pope]

”Duscussion” takes another **** twist and once again fails to be a thread about Leigh Griffiths, footballer. Poor stuff.

[The 90+2]

9 whole pages on this topic - unreal.

Each page represents a child of his.

Leigh Griffiths, top player for Hibernian and top ****ger. :agree:

[MWHIBBIES]

How is the air quality from your location up there on the moral high ground? Not defending him, he was daft to respond but he wasn't (as far as I read) deliberately texting kids. Remind me - what action did the police take against him again?

This is not one of those moral high ground issues mate. Holy ****. Police can't jail someone for sending camera emojis. Pretty obvious what it meant, though.

Seriously. It's so, so wrong what he did. Should rule him out of even being considered here. Scary how folk even argue that point because he used to be a decent footballer.

[Lago]

Let me get this straight, 99% on here agree they don't want or expect him back at ER, yet still he's being discussed, why????

[WeeRussell]

Let me get this straight, 99% on here agree they don't want or expect him back at ER, yet still he's being discussed, why????

Because people keep replying to the thread?.

… even if it’s ironically to question why the thread Is still going.

[MrSmith]

Maybe time for the admins to lock it? It is going round in circles.

[Lago]

Because people keep replying to the thread?.

… even if it’s ironically to question why the thread Is still going.
😝

[wookie70]

I was at the Livi v Dundee game last night. Griffith never looked interested to me but saying that very few of his teammates did either. So sad that he has went the same way as Deek and others. You would think it would only take him a couple of months to get fit again if he could solve his mental health issues. Not too late for him but the longer he doesn't the harder it will be and he could easily be without a contact soon

[basehibby]

Leigh is one of the best players I've seen in a Hibs shirt - but, like many before him, he's a flawed character. As a result of that flawed character, he's now out of shape despite being employed by two professional football clubs to train and be fit to grace the pitch for them. So it's a no from me. But no grudges - Leigh was always a maverick character which is part of what made him a such a great player to watch!

[spike220]

Because people keep replying to the thread?.

… even if it’s ironically to question why the thread Is still going.

Bump

[Haymaker]

:hyper oh **** it :hyper

[Dazzjw1875]

Is he not training at EM to get himself fit and in better shape until end of the month? I'm sure someone said that yesterday.

[Since452]

Is he not training at EM to get himself fit and in better shape until end of the month? I'm sure someone said that yesterday.

He's still at Dundee until the end of January at least.

[blackpoolhibs]

Is he not training at EM to get himself fit and in better shape until end of the month? I'm sure someone said that yesterday.

I'd like to think if he was trying to get fit, then we gave him that opportunity to do so.

Of course SM would then see how he was doing close hand, and maybe see if he was anywhere near fit enough to earn a short contract.

And if not, then nothing lost.

[MrSmith]

I'd like to think if he was trying to get fit, then we gave him that opportunity to do so.

Of course SM would then see how he was doing close hand, and maybe see if he was anywhere near fit enough to earn a short contract.

And if not, then nothing lost.

Too sensible mate!

We can't give a deal to a pedophile/alchie/druggy/gambler/thug/obese racist who kisses the badge that paid him very well. :na na:





Total agree though :D

[SHODAN]

I'd like to think if he was trying to get fit, then we gave him that opportunity to do so.

Of course SM would then see how he was doing close hand, and maybe see if he was anywhere near fit enough to earn a short contract.

And if not, then nothing lost.

Sounds reasonable.

If he trains at EM, gets the weight down and gets fitter, a short-term contract would be no problem at all.

[MWHIBBIES]

Too sensible mate!

We can't give a deal to a pedophile/alchie/druggy/gambler/thug/obese racist who kisses the badge that paid him very well. :na na:





Total agree though :D

Why do you say that as if folk not wanting to sign someone who wanted dirty pictures off a 15 year old is a bad thing?

[MrSmith]

Why do you say that as if folk not wanting to sign someone who wanted dirty pictures off a 15 year old is a bad thing?

I'm summarising the points made by posters on this thread. However and again, you are be selective with the truth re your statement. By the way, I'm not defending him I'm just trying to be factual so to not give the wrong impression of his issues, the girl is quoted as saying he did not know her age so, you cannot make that statement and pass it off as a fact. I respect your decision in not wanting him to play for Hibs again but let's stick to the facts and not portray him as some sort of sick pedophile.

[blackpoolhibs]

I'm summarising the points made by posters on this thread. However and again, you are be selective with the truth re your statement. By the way, I'm not defending him I'm just trying to be factual so to not give the wrong impression of his issues, the girl is quoted as saying he did not know her age so, you cannot make that statement and pass it off as a fact. I respect your decision in not wanting him to play for Hibs again but let's stick to the facts and not portray him as some sort of sick pedophile.

Ah but you can if it suits your agenda.

[JohnM1875]

Some folk are acting like he was into her because she was 15. He wasn't. He messaged a lassie he obviously thought was older and got found out.

The act itself if ****ty though cause he has a partner.

[MWHIBBIES]

Ah but you can if it suits your agenda.

I have no agenda. I simply do not see ignorance as an excuse for noncing.

She'd have to be 18 for soliciting dirty pictures to be legal as far as I know, so he is very, very clearly in the wrong. It's actually really worrying that men are trying to defend his behaviour in any way.

This coupled with his poor professionalism, **** form, and other off field antics mean I think it would be utter mental to sign him. Thankfully, Hibs will do the right thing and avoid him. We'll have learned from O'connor who wasn't half the idiot Leigh is.

[Hibbyradge]

Some folk are acting like he was into her because she was 15. He wasn't. He messaged a lassie he obviously thought was older and got found out.

The act itself if ****ty though cause he has a partner.

I tend to agree with you. I don't think LG is a paedophile. He's attracted to younger women but that applies to most of the population.

However, loads of men and women are unfaithful without it affecting their professional career.

[blackpoolhibs]

I have no agenda. I simply do not see ignorance as an excuse for noncing.

She'd have to be 18 for soliciting dirty pictures to be legal as far as I know, so he is very, very clearly in the wrong. It's actually really worrying that men are trying to defend his behaviour in any way.

This coupled with his poor professionalism, **** form, and other off field antics mean I think it would be utter mental to sign him. Thankfully, Hibs will do the right thing and avoid him. We'll have learned from O'connor who wasn't half the idiot Leigh is.
What age did Leigh think she was?

[MrSmith]

I have no agenda. I simply do not see ignorance as an excuse for noncing.

She'd have to be 18 for soliciting dirty pictures to be legal as far as I know, so he is very, very clearly in the wrong. It's actually really worrying that men are trying to defend his behaviour in any way.

This coupled with his poor professionalism, **** form, and other off field antics mean I think it would be utter mental to sign him. Thankfully, Hibs will do the right thing and avoid him. We'll have learned from O'connor who wasn't half the idiot Leigh is.

I'm not defending LG as I've said previously, its a ****ty thing to do however, I am defending the truth of the situation and that is pretty clear when you read the articles and legal stuff out there.

[flash]

This thread is going well.

[Since452]

Why do you say that as if folk not wanting to sign someone who wanted dirty pictures off a 15 year old is a bad thing?

I agree with you and think you are are right in addressing the massive elephant in the room that nobody else wants to mention. I'm not buying that he didn't know her age. He knew fine well what he was doing. Chancing his mit. Shady character.

[Hibbyradge]

I agree with you and think you are are right in addressing the massive elephant in the room that nobody else wants to mention. I'm not buying that he didn't know her age. He knew fine well what he was doing. Chancing his mit. Shady character.

Despite both him and the girl saying that her age was never discussed?

[FilipinoHibs]

This thread still going? What are we arguing about now? If a girl looks 15 or not? Or should a man of 30 with several kids and a partner should have known better?

[Hibbyradge]

This thread still going? What are we arguing about now? If a girl looks 15 or not? Or should a man of 30 with several kids and a partner should have known better?

Yes.

But when did an individual's promiscuity, intelligence or common sense ever stop him pursuing a career in football?

[Jones28]

Can we put this thread down please?

[Stokesy's on fire]

This thread should be deleted never mind closed what a shambles

[MWHIBBIES]

What age did Leigh think she was?

He didn't think. That's clear.

Ignorance isn't an excuse.

[MWHIBBIES]

I agree with you and think you are are right in addressing the massive elephant in the room that nobody else wants to mention. I'm not buying that he didn't know her age. He knew fine well what he was doing. Chancing his mit. Shady character.

100%. Some truly worrying behaviour being shown in defence of him.

[blackpoolhibs]

He didn't think. That's clear.

Ignorance isn't an excuse.
Ignorance is your excuse.

[Hibbyradge]

100%. Some truly worrying behaviour being shown in defence of him.

What are you truly worried about?

[HoboHarry]

Rare for me to suggest a thread be closed but this one that should be. The amount of time some posters are willing to dedicate to this thread is honestly alarming.

[Coco Bryce]

I'm fitter than LG

Thread closed :greengrin

[Bostonhibby]

I always liked Terry Griffiths but his slow boring defensive style meant for most he was dull as dish water, really don't think he could do a job at Hibs, not even in midfield.



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[WhileTheChief..]

I'm summarising the points made by posters on this thread. However and again, you are be selective with the truth re your statement. By the way, I'm not defending him I'm just trying to be factual so to not give the wrong impression of his issues, the girl is quoted as saying he did not know her age so, you cannot make that statement and pass it off as a fact. I respect your decision in not wanting him to play for Hibs again but let's stick to the facts and not portray him as some sort of sick pedophile.

Ask any non football fan that has never heard of Griffiths what their thoughts on a 32 year old man asking for pics from a 15 year old child are.

I’d imagine the word paedo wouldn’t be far away in their answer.

There’s just no defence for it at all, despite what the girl in question might say or think.

[WhileTheChief..]

Despite both him and the girl saying that her age was never discussed?

C’mon, you can’t actually believe that? That’s them simply trying to get him off the hook.

I’m with MW on this one. You’re all scrambling around making excuses for him because he’s ex-Hibs.

If there was no Hibs connection would your view be the same?

[MrSmith]

Ask any non football fan that has never heard of Griffiths what their thoughts on a 32 year old man asking for pics from a 15 year old child are.

I’d imagine the word paedo wouldn’t be far away in their answer.

There’s just no defence for it at all, despite what the girl in question might say or think.

Again, this is incorrect and carries no fact. You need to read the information that is freely available including the legal to set your facts straight. If you want to call him a pedo, go right ahead but that is the kind of loose lipped chat that gets people done.

[WeeRussell]

C’mon, you can’t actually believe that? That’s them simply trying to get him off the hook.

I’m with MW on this one. You’re all scrambling around making excuses for him because he’s ex-Hibs.

If there was no Hibs connection would your view be the same?

I don’t think Leigh Griffiths is a ‘good hibby’.

I don’t think he should be at our club.

But I also don’t think he’s a Paedophile.

All the above would apply if he never played for or supported Hibs in the past.

[Hibbyradge]

C’mon, you can’t actually believe that? That’s them simply trying to get him off the hook.

I’m with MW on this one. You’re all scrambling around making excuses for him because he’s ex-Hibs.

If there was no Hibs connection would your view be the same?

I'm not making excuses for him, I'm saying what I understand occurred.

I haven't seen the girl's photographs but I have seen the text/WhatsApp exchange. There's no mention of her age and LG doesn’t directly ask for anything although the camera emoticons do suggest it.

It was investigated by the police and no action was deemed necessary. Does anyone here know better or more than the police?

The boy's a tube, no doubt about it, but alleging he's a paedophile is probably libellous.

The ex- Hibs player inference is irrelevant to me anyway. Would I use it against an opponent, possibly, but I'd be doing it out of devilment, rather than some moralistic crusade.

Craig Thomson was convicted in a court. Leigh Griffiths wasn't even charged.

[J-C]

Ask any non football fan that has never heard of Griffiths what their thoughts on a 32 year old man asking for pics from a 15 year old child are.

I’d imagine the word paedo wouldn’t be far away in their answer.

There’s just no defence for it at all, despite what the girl in question might say or think.

Let's hope he's not reading this, might want to get his lawyer to have a look for deformation of character. People have been charged for things posted on social media, remember this isn't a members only forum, it's open to guests too.

[HNA12]

This is going round in circles now. Thread closed.