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cabbageandribs1875
19-12-2021, 04:01 PM
willie miller says it was a penalty :agree:
that **** beaton saw it
lyonhibs
19-12-2021, 04:01 PM
Neither Celtic goal offside. How keen we are to make excuses for a dismal performance where certain of our players lacked even the basic desire and application (before we get into complicated things like technical ability) today.
Wrong formation, wrong personnel, wrong attitude (from some)
PeeJay
19-12-2021, 04:01 PM
Absolute rubbish football from us - anybody still wondering why Ross had to go must now at least understand the reason why ... wish people would stop blaming referees for our misery: today was all down to our own lack of ability and professionalism -
The 90+2
19-12-2021, 04:01 PM
Ach well, new era starts tomorrow..
Haud me back.
NORTHERNHIBBY
19-12-2021, 04:02 PM
A goal a minute after we scored and then a winner with our central defenders going to sleep at the same time. Don't think that we deserved to win today but to lose goals like that it would be easier to take if we got howked.
heretoday
19-12-2021, 04:02 PM
Celtic probably deserved to win but we've got to be more savvy for both their goals.
Iain G
19-12-2021, 04:02 PM
Haud me back.
Miserable sod!
The Captain....
19-12-2021, 04:02 PM
Got what we deserved out of that. The refereeing decisions will take a lot of the focus away from what was a really poor show from us over the piece.Thought we at least competed second half and posed a threat. Two lapses (not unusual) and kyogo' s ability killed us.
You're right tho there are too many players have got away with sub standard performances for too long. Big changes needed if we want to challenge at the top of the league again this season.
Midfield has to sit deep to protect a poor defence , unless Boyle fires we look toothless.
Honestly think Ross performed miracles getting 3rd last season with this group.
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Jim44
19-12-2021, 04:02 PM
Celtic deserved to win on possession and better play but they are really mediocre and Rangers will walk the important one.
GlasgowHibs
19-12-2021, 04:03 PM
Should have been a penalty. Should have taken our chance right at the end. Should have defended better for their two goals.
Greencore
19-12-2021, 04:04 PM
Was this a cup final or a game vs lower 6? Thought we were crap.
Just_Jimmy
19-12-2021, 04:04 PM
watch out Beaton, VAR's on it's wayMight be but it'll be Beaton and his mates at the controls
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neil7908
19-12-2021, 04:05 PM
What most frustrates me is this Celtic team really aren't that good. Two good finishes by Kyogo but they created little else, and looked very soft at the back.
Another missed one opportunity in a final. We really should have a couple of trophies in the cabinet after 2016.
Very poor 1st half, came into it in the 2nd but ultimately again not good enough when it natters. Celtic are not brilliant by any means and were there for the taking.
Today showed we have an average group of players with not enough guile or composure, good luck to Maloney, you'll need it. We need a lot of players in but to do that we need a lot of them out too, one or two today showed they need moved on, Murphy in particular I thought he was shocking.
Viva_Palmeiras
19-12-2021, 04:06 PM
The Glasgow clubs narrative written before the game even kicked off. F them all pathetic whilst claiming to support the Scottish game. The only shame is not on out players who gave their all Eap second half.
lyonhibs
19-12-2021, 04:06 PM
****in ***** all around.
We didn't deserve fk all but still got robbed.
Robbed of something you readily admit we didn't deserve?? Errrr, ok....
Jim44
19-12-2021, 04:06 PM
Maloney will have got a wee momentary thrill with that result but I hope his Celtic connections stop now.
H18S NX
19-12-2021, 04:06 PM
Got what we deserved out of that. The refereeing decisions will take a lot of the focus away from what was a really poor show from us over the piece....Yip,very honest opinion.
Steve20
19-12-2021, 04:07 PM
I’m fed up with the “good effort” chat. That first half was as embarrassing a performance as you’ll see in a cup final. It was incredible that an average celtic team didn’t score. 2nd half was better, but it couldn’t be any worse to be fair.
Maloney has his work cut out to get something from that group of players.
Very very poor.
Tambo
19-12-2021, 04:07 PM
Definitely not a dog at the club but after 35 years of supporting Hibs today's result is something I have come used to.
First half we was like passengers very poor but second half we cam out much better and I missed the Celtic equaliser after celebrating and getting a beer.
Players and manager will always get the blame for a defeat but brother beaton was a joke today and I hope SDG calls him out after he has a word with the players.
Juice-Terry
19-12-2021, 04:08 PM
New central midfielders please. And replace every single ****ing ref with foreign ones. Ta.
Maloney will have got a wee momentary thrill with that result but I hope his Celtic connections stop now.
Is he definitely signing?
Swedish hibee
19-12-2021, 04:09 PM
I’m fed up with the “good effort” chat. That first half was as embarrassing a performance as you’ll see in a cup final. It was incredible that an average celtic team didn’t score. 2nd half was better, but it couldn’t be any worse to be fair.
Maloney has his work cut out to get something from that group of players.
Very very poor.
Embarrassing? Yes, Celtic were very average but they had the goal scorer we don't have in this team.
Iain G
19-12-2021, 04:09 PM
I’m fed up with the “good effort” chat. That first half was as embarrassing a performance as you’ll see in a cup final. It was incredible that an average celtic team didn’t score. 2nd half was better, but it couldn’t be any worse to be fair.
Maloney has his work cut out to get something from that group of players.
Very very poor.
I still think we have the basis of a good team here, it needs added to an some issues dealt with but it's not all doom and gloom.
Allant1981
19-12-2021, 04:09 PM
Should have had doidge on sooner, that starfelt is rank rotten and if nisbet was beating him in the air then doidge would have had a field day with him
timewilltell
19-12-2021, 04:10 PM
i’m fed up with the “good effort” chat. That first half was as embarrassing a performance as you’ll see in a cup final. It was incredible that an average celtic team didn’t score. 2nd half was better, but it couldn’t be any worse to be fair.
Maloney has his work cut out to get something from that group of players.
Very very poor.
this
ian cruise
19-12-2021, 04:10 PM
Terrible performance from Hibs. Gutted to lose another final but we didn't deserve it. The fact that for all Celtic's possession it was Kyogo who made the difference says more about them than ourselves.
Hanlon was good but couldn't do it all himself. Macey shot stopping was good but distribution was terrible. Boyle possibly got pass marks.
I genuinely think the coaching staff need to take the brunt of this one. We weren't set up to take the game to Celtic and it showed. With ten minutes to go suddenly we had some urgency and almost nicked it. Sure there were some terrible refereeing decisions but we were our own worst enemy today.
Callum_62
19-12-2021, 04:11 PM
Terrible performance from Hibs. Gutted to lose another final but we didn't deserve it. The fact that for all Celtic's possession it was Kyogo who made the difference says more about them than ourselves.
Hanlon was good but couldn't do it all himself. Macey shot stopping was good but distribution was terrible. Boyle possibly got pass marks.
I genuinely think the coaching staff need to take the brunt of this one. We weren't set up to take the game to Celtic and it showed. With ten minutes to go suddenly we had some urgency and almost nicked it. Sure there were some terrible refereeing decisions but we were our own worst enemy today.Terrible?
Chill out
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SaulGoodman
19-12-2021, 04:12 PM
1st half poor, 2nd half good fight but two poor goals to concede
NC1875
19-12-2021, 04:12 PM
Piss poor performance. Bad refereeing or not.
This is the “team” Jack Ross built and today showed exactly why he’s now unemployed.
Pathetic
Coco Bryce
19-12-2021, 04:12 PM
Terrible?
Chill out
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1st half was worse than terrible.
ian cruise
19-12-2021, 04:13 PM
I still think we have the basis of a good team here, it needs added to an some issues dealt with but it's not all doom and gloom.
I agree, I think we've good players, but some real week spots that need addressed immediately. The lack of urgency in the way we were set up is more of a concern to me.
Hibby Kay-Yay
19-12-2021, 04:13 PM
A bit of Ted Lasso ‘Believe’ and the game was there to be won. Far too conservative in the first half and the 2nd half too.
MWHIBBIES
19-12-2021, 04:14 PM
Embarrassing? Yes, Celtic were very average but they had the goal scorer we don't have in this team.
Boyle has 14 goals this season
Inconsequential
19-12-2021, 04:14 PM
Maloney must go. Not good enough. :wink:
Greenio
19-12-2021, 04:14 PM
Bad first half
Improved second
Fought to the end
Not happy at all
But disagree we need a total rebuild
SteveHFC
19-12-2021, 04:15 PM
1st half was worse than terrible.
Spot on.
Yet they deserve a applause at the end. Wouldn’t be bothered to see any of them leave.
ian cruise
19-12-2021, 04:15 PM
Piss poor performance. Bad refereeing or not.
This is the “team” Jack Ross built and today showed exactly why he’s now unemployed.
Pathetic
I was a Ross supporter but I'm now swaying towards this opinion. The team have been coached to play pondering football, occasionally we get the opportunity to hit teams on the break but few and far between. We need someone who can introduce positivity, creativity and urgency.
Northernhibee
19-12-2021, 04:17 PM
Jamie Murphy is never a professional footballer. Zero creativity, pace, doesn’t take a man on, can’t make a decision, doesn’t score, doesn’t create.
Most of the rest of the team don’t deserve to be on the losing team but we need better players up the top of the park and we need better focus and stop switching off at the worst times.
A valiant effort though and with good winter recruitment there’s some things the new manager can work on.
ancient hibee
19-12-2021, 04:18 PM
Gray has been part of coaching all season. Hardly surprising the team was set up,in the way that it has been. Continued the wrong decision making we have suffered.Mirphy should not have started. The midfield was too deep and Doidge and Nisbet must both play.
PolmontHibby
19-12-2021, 04:19 PM
Gutted we lost - but I thought the 2nd half was bloody entertaining, the key difference being in Kyogo they seem to have a top class finisher.
The less said about first half the better, just seemed to be a lack of composure to retain the ball.
Usual standard of Scottish refereeing.
MGmick
19-12-2021, 04:20 PM
I still think we have the basis of a good team here, it needs added to an some issues dealt with but it's not all doom and gloom.
Could you explain what that basis is please?
Spine? Back 3/4/5? Across the middle? Up front?
I can't really see it myself.
Carheenlea
19-12-2021, 04:21 PM
Looked like a managerless team out there with no real obvious plan. Had our chance late on to take it to extra time but wasn’t to be. Second half sparked into life a bit but far from a classic.
Keep getting to finals like we have done and more cups will eventually come.
Heisenberg
19-12-2021, 04:23 PM
Kyogo and Beaton the difference sadly. Really poor to switch off so badly when we did. New players required in a few different areas.
chippy
19-12-2021, 04:24 PM
I actually thought Hibs managed the game very well overall. A defensive first half , Celtic had no clear chances. The last time we played them they were 3 up in 30 mins. Clear change of strategy 2nd half. Was Kyogo onside for 1st, TV not showing any clear angled replays So my guess is offside. 2nd goal Hibs waiting for sub to come on and caught, but was Kyogo onside ? Again no clear angered replays available it seems on old firm tv. Clear penalty to us in last 5 in front of old firm referee. I was proud of us today
Allant1981
19-12-2021, 04:24 PM
Could you explain what that basis is please?
Spine? Back 3/4/5? Across the middle? Up front?
I can't really see it myself.
Macey,porteous, Doig, JDH, newell, boyle, nisbet(when on form) doidge are all good players, we just need some more qulaity added
Ringothedog
19-12-2021, 04:25 PM
Was this a cup final or a game vs lower 6? Thought we were crap.
Stop being an absolute clown for at least a couple of minutes
gazzag70
19-12-2021, 04:26 PM
Put up a good fight today especially the 2nd half, we have a decent squad who can do a lot better with the right leadership and a few tweaks here and there( Murphy must go to start with) We are a match for anybody when we play positively which hopefully we will do more under the new manager. So many of the players gave their all today and I think they deserve a lot of credit for giving a very good Celtic team a game.
GGTTH 🇳🇬
Borderhibbie76
19-12-2021, 04:26 PM
Macey,porteous, Doig, JDH, newell, boyle, nisbet(when on form) doidge are all good players, we just need some more qulaity added
I feel like am missing something with Porto, constantly gave the ball away today and culpable at both goals too...I honestly think he's massively overrated by the hibs support. Hanlon was far better than him today
CropleyisGod
19-12-2021, 04:27 PM
I actually thought Hibs managed the game very well overall. A defensive first half , Celtic had no clear chances. The last time we played them they were 3 up in 30 mins. Clear change of strategy 2nd half. Was Kyogo onside for 1st, TV not showing any clear angled replays So my guess is offside. 2nd goal Hibs waiting for sub to come on and caught, but was Kyogo onside ? Again no clear angered replays available it seems on old firm tv. Clear penalty to us in last 5 in front of old firm referee. I was proud of us today
Agree. Remarkable coincidence that the one angle that could have easily addressed offside or not was the one angle that was only shown once. The pundits and commentators had already decided there was nothing to look at…
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Iain G
19-12-2021, 04:27 PM
Could you explain what that basis is please?
Spine? Back 3/4/5? Across the middle? Up front?
I can't really see it myself.
We have an unbalanced squad that with a few clever additions will improve a lot.
And with a coach dedicated to playing on the front foot we know our attacking players can hurt the opposition. I thought the second half was a lot more positive when we actually went for it and the shackles came off a bit.
Magennis coming back from injury will be a huge positive.
I don't think it will take much to get things back on track and a more positive position. I hope our new coach is the right man to take that next step on what are decent foundations to build on.
Glory Lurker
19-12-2021, 04:29 PM
Sigh. I am very sad. It never gets easier, does it?
Allant1981
19-12-2021, 04:30 PM
I feel like am missing something with Porto, constantly gave the ball away today and culpable at both goals too...I honestly think he's massively overrated by the hibs support. Hanlon was far better than him today
Hanlon had a good game today although i thought he should have been covering better for the 2nd, will see it better when i get home, i like porteous but he needs to stick to defending more now and not trying to play as much football
500miles
19-12-2021, 04:30 PM
First half we played to contain and frustrate an energetic Celtic team and it worked, as we scored the first goal. I don't think that they had a chance from open play. We then lost concentration - Hanlon not tracking Kyogo. I'm not convinced he was onside, but visibility was poor so its hard to tell - which to me means play should have been paused.
For their second goal,it wasn't a foul - it was simulation, and we get caught out thinking its a sub.
Stonewall penalty, unlucky to hit the post in the wake of that. Feel like it would have been pulled back for a pen if we scored right enough!
Sir David Gray
19-12-2021, 04:31 PM
First half was dreadful, second half was better but nowhere near good enough.
Losing the lead so quickly was criminal.
Swedish hibee
19-12-2021, 04:33 PM
Boyle has 14 goals this season
So what you saying?
MartinfaePorty
19-12-2021, 04:33 PM
We have an unbalanced squad that with a few clever additions will improve a lot.
And with a coach dedicated to playing on the front foot we know our attacking players can hurt the opposition. I thought the second half was a lot more positive when we actually went for it and the shackles came off a bit.
Magennis coming back from injury will be a huge positive.
I don't think it will take much to get things back on track and a more positive position. I hope our new coach is the right man to take that next step on what are decent foundations to build on.A very reasonable post that I agree with 100%.
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Allant1981
19-12-2021, 04:34 PM
So what you saying?
That we have a goal scorer also?
Northernhibee
19-12-2021, 04:36 PM
First half was dreadful, second half was better but nowhere near good enough.
Losing the lead so quickly was criminal.
That’s what lost us the game. We hold that lead for fifteen minutes and they get nervous, open up and we might grab a second.
Thought that at the time.
Hiber-nation
19-12-2021, 04:36 PM
First goal was onside. First time I've seen the slo-mo.
Hiber-nation
19-12-2021, 04:38 PM
And Hanlon's defending for the 2nd goal was actually criminal.
Jim44
19-12-2021, 04:40 PM
Maloney will have got a wee momentary thrill with that result but I hope his Celtic connections stop now.
Is he definitely signing?
Well, if he doesn’t, it will be the the biggest U-turn and wrongly informed speculation for some time. He’ll be sorely disappointed that he is not returning to Parkhead, as he is quoted as saying in interview a while back, but I think he is a bright lad and hopefully he will do a job at ER.
Nakedmanoncrack
19-12-2021, 04:44 PM
I actually thought Hibs managed the game very well overall. A defensive first half , Celtic had no clear chances. The last time we played them they were 3 up in 30 mins. Clear change of strategy 2nd half. Was Kyogo onside for 1st, TV not showing any clear angled replays So my guess is offside. 2nd goal Hibs waiting for sub to come on and caught, but was Kyogo onside ? Again no clear angered replays available it seems on old firm tv. Clear penalty to us in last 5 in front of old firm referee. I was proud of us today
I agree, we managed the game well, its a poor Hibs side & nowhere near good enough to open up & take the game to Celtic. The game plan worked well,switched off a couple of times & were punished, but still came close to taking it to ET. Bitterly disappointed, but new manager this week, and a new start, hopefully we can get back to further finals, hopefully with more options than we had today.
NC1875
19-12-2021, 04:45 PM
And Hanlon's defending for the 2nd goal was actually criminal.
But we’re lucky to have him etc……….
Another one to file under not good enough
Since90+2
19-12-2021, 04:46 PM
And Hanlon's defending for the 2nd goal was actually criminal.
It wasn't "actually" criminal.
There's little belief, desire or determination throughout our club; not just on the pitch but in general! Always happy to accept the **** thrown at us and never question it, sad submissive losers at best!
There was never any attempt today to actually go out and try to take the game to celtic or to win the game by making them worry about what we intended to do rather than allow them the freedom of Hamdump as usual!
Even if there had been any real desire to try and win it wouldn't have mattered as there was a clear agenda that celtic shouldn't lose at all costs and that they should be given the benefit of doubt on all decisions!
There is no point in following any Scottish football team unless you support one of the uglies as it's a total waste of time, effort and money.
Scottish football is a Joke!
A very reasonable post that I agree with 100%.
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I do too.
Definitely need to strengthen the squad but there is a decent core of players. The main issue that Hibs have is how they are coached to approach a game of football. I don't see any consistent plan that this team has to create chances. Drastic changes are needed and it is why I am fully behind Ross' replacement.
That was a Jack Ross performance.
hfc_aidan
19-12-2021, 04:51 PM
First half we were awful on the ball, but they weren’t exactly great- there’s a difference between being dominated and the other team having the ball and doing nothing with it.
Second half, again, neither team great but we improved. We should have gone for it and much sooner-missed a real good chance to win that cup. But did not deserve to lose like that.
madhatter
19-12-2021, 04:54 PM
Paul McGinn clearly hurting. Much respect for him talking immediately after.
eastmainsmsh
19-12-2021, 04:55 PM
Kyogo was difference there take him out that Celtic team today and they’re bang average stonewaller of a penalty when Porto was fouled
Just at the hotel.
Decent game, hibs played well in parts. I thought first half game plan worked a treat to go in 0-0.
2nd half much better from a viewing point.
Was Hanlon header over the line?
I think them scoring so soon after us was match breaker.
2nd goal looked poor defensively to me. Shocker. Still not sure Macey is fully trusted by defense.
SteveHFC
19-12-2021, 05:01 PM
7th in league because we leak goals
No matter who we play
Hiber-nation
19-12-2021, 05:02 PM
It wasn't "actually" criminal.
Thanks for the correction, I'm hurting a bit after that so prone to exaggerating a wee bit as folk do after cup final defeats
O'Rourke3
19-12-2021, 05:06 PM
First half we played to contain and frustrate an energetic Celtic team and it worked, as we scored the first goal. I don't think that they had a chance from open play. We then lost concentration - Hanlon not tracking Kyogo. I'm not convinced he was onside, but visibility was poor so its hard to tell - which to me means play should have been paused.
For their second goal,it wasn't a foul - it was simulation, and we get caught out thinking its a sub.
Stonewall penalty, unlucky to hit the post in the wake of that. Feel like it would have been pulled back for a pen if we scored right enough!Pretty much my view
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tonyrougier123
19-12-2021, 05:10 PM
Sacking Ross before this game a huge blunder by club.but it’s over and we hopefully start a new fresh approach from now on and focus on building a team around a core of players capable of achieving good things, but we MUST start signing players ready for the first team in order to challenge for Europe regularly.also it would be nice if we could also achieve the togetherness around the club we had during our recent rebuild a few years ago.a bit of patience and understanding from elements of the support would be beneficial also.
Hibees1973
19-12-2021, 05:32 PM
On the train coming back to Edinburgh.
First of all Hibs were poor. Really disappointed as this is not a great Celtic team. Murphy was a waste of a jersey. He is a wide player but has no pace and is flat footed. We need to freshen up the squad in January with 3 or 4 players.
Today underlined the poor recruitment over the last year. We have very few players able to keep the ball in tight situations. Today we just punted it and the shocking thing is if one or two decisions went our way could have won that.
sean04
19-12-2021, 05:42 PM
Absolutely gutted, thought 1st half was dreadful from us. 2nd half really good. Incredibly poor defending for the goals we conceded. Disgraceful decision not to give the pen at the end but at the same time nesbit and hanlon have got to score
Ronniekirk
19-12-2021, 05:44 PM
Just at the hotel.
Decent game, hibs played well in parts. I thought first half game plan worked a treat to go in 0-0.
2nd half much better from a viewing point.
Was Hanlon header over the line?
I think them scoring so soon after us was match breaker.
2nd goal looked poor defensively to me. Shocker. Still not sure Macey is fully trusted by defense.
For our goal all well over line I was right in line with post and got clear view
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VA effing R, if that was available today we would have been given a penalty
Ronniekirk
19-12-2021, 05:46 PM
And Hanlon's defending for the 2nd goal was actually criminal.
They took a jerky wee tap of ball Not sure we saw it and were not expecting it
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Magpie
19-12-2021, 06:08 PM
Two poor goals to give away. Didn’t feel like Celtic were in first gear at all today. The incompetence of referee’s is embarrassing for Scottish football and is really ruining my enjoyment of the game up here. I’ll always follow Hibs because it’s a part of my life but what a shambles we have up here. Corrupt as **** imho.
Crab apple
19-12-2021, 06:23 PM
Two poor goals to give away. Didn’t feel like Celtic were in first gear at all today. The incompetence of referee’s is embarrassing for Scottish football and is really ruining my enjoyment of the game up here. I’ll always follow Hibs because it’s a part of my life but what a shambles we have up here. Corrupt as **** imho.
Just back and looked at the pictures and you're spot on. Beaton I think is just totally incompetent though and like most of the west coast refs when handling games involving one of the cheeks will give them most of the 50/50s.
Johnny_Leith
19-12-2021, 06:31 PM
Match swings for us on a couple vital moments.
Kyogos first goal, should have been called as offside but criminal time to lose that goal. Shades of Riejka away. Concentration a major issue for us at times.
Nisbets excellent play then chance. Hart makes a good save and then we are behind shortly after.
Opportunity missed for us, Celtic are good no doubt, but we could have gotten a result today.
GreenCastle
19-12-2021, 06:41 PM
Just back - we were very fortunate to go in at half time 0v0.
We sat off them and playing 1 up against their back 4 is an accident waiting to happen.
But at the same time you play 2 up and you lose a player centrally unless you play 4-3-3.
But we do need more energy and quality in midfield - we need to find another SJM type and energy and drive.
Murphy just isn’t doing enough on the left - Mueller or another need to step it up on that side but we need a player who can cross with the left foot as we come inside far too often.
We need seriously more depth - this has been evident for months.
As for the event - good Hibs support - great scenes when we scored but honestly could we not have held out a bit longer to have more of a sing song.
Well done to those who organised the pre match display.
No vaccine passport checking at all. Not sure about other parts of the Hibs end.
Didn’t expect much but our defending for the goals was awful (watched the 1st goal and could Macey have done better at near post ??) and felt Hanlon should have made it 2-2 or the penalty be given (which we still need to score - (Boyle missed his last attempt).
We need to regroup and get top 6 - win the derby.
MWHIBBIES
19-12-2021, 06:48 PM
Two poor goals to give away. Didn’t feel like Celtic were in first gear at all today. The incompetence of referee’s is embarrassing for Scottish football and is really ruining my enjoyment of the game up here. I’ll always follow Hibs because it’s a part of my life but what a shambles we have up here. Corrupt as **** imho.
I agree. Its honestly soul destroying to follow a team and be ****ed over so consistently by referees.
Hibs90
19-12-2021, 07:00 PM
Hibs overall League and Scottish Cup finals record combined:
Played: 25
Won: 6
24% Win rate.
Be interesting to see if other teams have similar. I'm going to guess not.
Callum_62
19-12-2021, 07:00 PM
Just back - we were very fortunate to go in at half time 0v0.
We sat off them and playing 1 up against their back 4 is an accident waiting to happen.
But at the same time you play 2 up and you lose a player centrally unless you play 4-3-3.
But we do need more energy and quality in midfield - we need to find another SJM type and energy and drive.
Murphy just isn’t doing enough on the left - Mueller or another need to step it up on that side but we need a player who can cross with the left foot as we come inside far too often.
We need seriously more depth - this has been evident for months.
As for the event - good Hibs support - great scenes when we scored but honestly could we not have held out a bit longer to have more of a sing song.
Well done to those who organised the pre match display.
No vaccine passport checking at all. Not sure about other parts of the Hibs end.
Didn’t expect much but our defending for the goals was awful (watched the 1st goal and could Macey have done better at near post ??) and felt Hanlon should have made it 2-2 or the penalty be given (which we still need to score - (Boyle missed his last attempt).
We need to regroup and get top 6 - win the derby.The way we walked in (early) I seen everyone being checked for their vaccine passport
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Liberal Hibby
19-12-2021, 07:02 PM
I actually thought Hibs managed the game very well overall. A defensive first half , Celtic had no clear chances. The last time we played them they were 3 up in 30 mins. Clear change of strategy 2nd half. Was Kyogo onside for 1st, TV not showing any clear angled replays So my guess is offside. 2nd goal Hibs waiting for sub to come on and caught, but was Kyogo onside ? Again no clear angered replays available it seems on old firm tv. Clear penalty to us in last 5 in front of old firm referee. I was proud of us today
Quite.
Scottie
19-12-2021, 07:06 PM
Hibs overall League and Scottish Cup finals record combined:
Played: 25
Won: 6
24% Win rate.
Be interesting to see if other teams have similar. I'm going to guess not.
Not good enough unfortunately. Mind you in quite a few of those recent defeats we have had some shocking decisions go against us like it was today. All you ask is unbiased and honest refereeing.
Hibs90
19-12-2021, 07:15 PM
Hibs overall League and Scottish Cup finals record combined:
Played: 25
Won: 6
24% Win rate.
Be interesting to see if other teams have similar. I'm going to guess not.
Aberdeen
Played: 31
Won: 13
41.93% win rate
Hearts
Played: 23
Won: 12
52.17% win rate
Dundee United
Played: 17
Won:4
23.52% win rate
I realise these stats mean nothing in the grand scheme of things, but I think given the amount of finals we have reached, we should certainly have won a lot more than we have.
Just_Jimmy
19-12-2021, 07:56 PM
Aberdeen
Played: 31
Won: 13
41.93% win rate
Hearts
Played: 23
Won: 12
52.17% win rate
Dundee United
Played: 17
Won:4
23.52% win rate
I realise these stats mean nothing in the grand scheme of things, but I think given the amount of finals we have reached, we should certainly have won a lot more than we have.How many were against the old firm?
What dates are we talking?
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BroxburnHibee
19-12-2021, 08:08 PM
VA effing R, if that was available today we would have been given a penalty
Yep but so would they.
Hibs90
19-12-2021, 08:27 PM
How many were against the old firm?
What dates are we talking?
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All time. If you want to dive deeper into that then fair enough I can’t be arsed. :greengrin
GreenCastle
19-12-2021, 08:40 PM
It’s rare anyone beats BOTH Celtic and Rangers to win a cup.
It’s happened I think only twice before with Hibs and Aberdeen doing it.
Every time you see the penalty replay it looks worse - stonewall penalty.
B.H.F.C
20-12-2021, 06:57 AM
It’s rare anyone beats BOTH Celtic and Rangers to win a cup.
It’s happened I think only twice before with Hibs and Aberdeen doing it.
Every time you see the penalty replay it looks worse - stonewall penalty.
As does Hanlon putting the ball in the stand from six yards when he followed up. .
It’s an absolute stonewall penalty but it’s not why we lost the game yesterday.
Absolutely sick this morning, we totally threw it away yesterday.
Fuzzywuzzy
20-12-2021, 07:00 AM
Kyogo was difference there take him out that Celtic team today and they’re bang average stonewaller of a penalty when Porto was fouled
Kyogos theatrics throwing himself to the ground were proper grinding my gears. He's now overtaken Morelos for c**tishness
500miles
20-12-2021, 07:09 AM
Yep but so would they.
Their number 11 was already on his way down. He was just about on his knees - it was an absolute dive.
500miles
20-12-2021, 07:10 AM
As does Hanlon putting the ball in the stand from six yards when he followed up. .
It’s an absolute stonewall penalty but it’s not why we lost the game yesterday.
Absolutely sick this morning, we totally threw it away yesterday.
I mean given Boyle's conversion rate, it probably is, because then it's 2-2. That's just counting.
B.H.F.C
20-12-2021, 07:18 AM
I mean given Boyle's conversion rate, it probably is, because then it's 2-2. That's just counting.
Boyle’s last penalty landed on the moon. Hanlon just needs to score with the rebound during the same incident. We can blame the ref all we want but it’s just deflecting from our own deficiencies that cost us the game IMO.
cabbageandribs1875
21-12-2021, 12:02 AM
for anyone curious of the attendance
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