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SteveHFC
02-11-2021, 01:01 PM
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HoboHarry
02-11-2021, 01:56 PM
Genuine question because I don't get to games - if KN is as bad as some say on here, why does he kept getting chosen for Scotland?

SteveHFC
02-11-2021, 01:57 PM
Genuine question because I don't get to games - if KN is as bad as some say on here, why does he kept getting chosen for Scotland?

No one else tbh.

SlickShoes
02-11-2021, 02:01 PM
The same reason Fraser gets picked and he’s barely kicked a ball for over a year.

Blaster
02-11-2021, 02:04 PM
Genuine question because I don't get to games - if KN is as bad as some say on here, why does he kept getting chosen for Scotland?

He’s not as bad as some say on here. He’s on a poor run of form but has to play every week due to the injury to Doidge and poor summer recruitment

evy
02-11-2021, 02:20 PM
He’s not as bad as some say on here. He’s on a poor run of form but has to play every week due to the injury to Doidge and poor summer recruitment

Hasn't been the same player since his billy big baws transfer request in January. Living comfortably knowing we have no-one else and not being dropped by Scotland for his poor form only adds to that cushion.

CMurdoch
02-11-2021, 02:39 PM
Genuine question because I don't get to games - if KN is as bad as some say on here, why does he kept getting chosen for Scotland?

He knows the system and play book.
More chance of him not making the squad if Dykes wasn't suspended

Disappointing that Karlan Grant isn't joining up.
Perhaps he has been approached but isn't ready to commit for Scotland yet.
More of a striker than Jacob Brown although both are in good form.

Nicho87
02-11-2021, 02:49 PM
Mad that Tony ralston isn’t in there.

Playing regularly and well for Celtic

Dr What If?
03-11-2021, 05:26 PM
He knows the system and play book.
More chance of him not making the squad if Dykes wasn't suspended

Disappointing that Karlan Grant isn't joining up.
Perhaps he has been approached but isn't ready to commit for Scotland yet.
More of a striker than Jacob Brown although both are in good form.

Does Grant qualify for Scotland? Has he not played for England at U21 (not that that disqualifies him for playing for us)? Brown was one I didn't see coming, actually had to Google to find out who he was when it was reported he was called up.

The Veteran
03-11-2021, 05:31 PM
I’ve no doubt that Scotland will contrive to lose these games.

bod
03-11-2021, 06:16 PM
I’ve no doubt that Scotland will contrive to lose these games.

Going to both so hope not

CMurdoch
04-11-2021, 12:50 AM
Does Grant qualify for Scotland? Has he not played for England at U21 (not that that disqualifies him for playing for us)? Brown was one I didn't see coming, actually had to Google to find out who he was when it was reported he was called up.

I've never checked it out but my son told me about it ages ago.
As ever with these guys Grant will be keeping his option open meantime.
Grant and Matt Phillips have played well up front for WBA this season.

Like you, Brown was new to me.
I watched him play well against Cardiff at the weekend alongside Fletcher but hadn't heard him mentioned before as a possible for Scotland.
Signed for Stoke from Barnsley for circa £2 million 15 months ago and is allegedly improving.
I've not seen enough of him to make an educated guess as to whether he is good enough to make an impact but Clark obviously thinks so.
From what I have read he appears to be more perspiration than inspiration.
As ever time will tell.

Dmas
04-11-2021, 03:24 AM
He knows the system and play book.
More chance of him not making the squad if Dykes wasn't suspended

Disappointing that Karlan Grant isn't joining up.
Perhaps he has been approached but isn't ready to commit for Scotland yet.
More of a striker than Jacob Brown although both are in good form.

I can’t believe Hendo, Hickey and Soutar seem so far out the picture, Greg Taylor injured doubts over tierney, Christie is out and hendo been playing as no.10 and well for empoli, Scott McKenna playing in a rotten Forrest team and still being picked a head of guys (unfortunately) playing well.

Also Johnny Russell 11 goals in 11 games he has just now and some bloke from Stoke appears

Hiber-nation
04-11-2021, 06:03 AM
I can’t believe Hendo, Hickey and Soutar seem so far out the picture, Greg Taylor injured doubts over tierney, Christie is out and hendo been playing as no.10 and well for empoli, Scott McKenna playing in a rotten Forrest team and still being picked a head of guys (unfortunately) playing well.

Also Johnny Russell 11 goals in 11 games he has just now and some bloke from Stoke appears

Did he get injured last night?

JimBHibees
04-11-2021, 06:06 AM
Did he get injured last night?

Think suspended for Moldova like Dykes

Hiber-nation
04-11-2021, 06:08 AM
Think suspended for Moldova like Dykes

Ah ok, cheers.

Brightside
04-11-2021, 06:40 AM
I can’t believe Hendo, Hickey and Soutar seem so far out the picture, Greg Taylor injured doubts over tierney, Christie is out and hendo been playing as no.10 and well for empoli, Scott McKenna playing in a rotten Forrest team and still being picked a head of guys (unfortunately) playing well.

Also Johnny Russell 11 goals in 11 games he has just now and some bloke from Stoke appears

I don’t think Souter is any good. Always looks slow to me and not great with the ball at his feet.

Dmas
04-11-2021, 06:57 AM
I don’t think Souter is any good. Always looks slow to me and not great with the ball at his feet.

Can say the same about McKenna to be fair

Sir David Gray
04-11-2021, 07:06 AM
Think suspended for Moldova like Dykes

Yep he is.

Sir David Gray
04-11-2021, 07:19 AM
Does Grant qualify for Scotland? Has he not played for England at U21 (not that that disqualifies him for playing for us)? Brown was one I didn't see coming, actually had to Google to find out who he was when it was reported he was called up.

Karlan Grant has played for England up to under 19 level but is still eligible to play for Scotland through his mother.

I understand as long as he doesn't appear for the England senior side he will remain eligible for Scotland.

Brightside
04-11-2021, 08:13 AM
Can say the same about McKenna to be fair

Totally agree.

bigwheel
04-11-2021, 08:31 AM
I don’t think Souter is any good. Always looks slow to me and not great with the ball at his feet.

Either this is a case of deep green eyes or I think you’ve been watching Halkett. Soutar has very good pace , and he’s got to be up there with the best central defenders with the ball at his feet.

Keeps himself fit, he will get a good move down south .

Brightside
04-11-2021, 09:16 AM
Either this is a case of deep green eyes or I think you’ve been watching Halkett. Soutar has very good pace , and he’s got to be up there with the best central defenders with the ball at his feet.

Keeps himself fit, he will get a good move down south .

I’ve not seen it. Watched the Aberdeen game and he looks safe but slow.

JimBHibees
04-11-2021, 03:05 PM
I’ve not seen it. Watched the Aberdeen game and he looks safe but slow.

Don't know what to make of Souttar pretty good on the ball not slow I don't think however not convinced defensively and hope Hearts go to a back 4 as he and Halkett would be horrific imo.

The Veteran
04-11-2021, 04:05 PM
I don’t think Souter is any good. Always looks slow to me and not great with the ball at his feet.

Can’t say that I agree with you regarding Souttar, he seems solid enough to me whenever I’ve seen him play.

At the minute, he would be a huge boost to our defence.

I think you perhaps typed that with your green specs on. :greengrin

cabbageandribs1875
04-11-2021, 09:22 PM
Scotland fined for jeering Israel national anthem and 'inappropriate flag' - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59162090)


Fifa has fined the Scottish FA more than £8,000 after fans booed the Israeli national anthem at Hampden Park.
The penalty also includes an inappropriate flag on display during Scotland's World Cup qualifying victory last month.

Greenio
04-11-2021, 10:06 PM
Hasn't been the same player since his billy big baws transfer request in January. Living comfortably knowing we have no-one else and not being dropped by Scotland for his poor form only adds to that cushion.

You simply don't get to where he is by having that mindframe.

He'll be desperate to get his form back. Same as we are.

JimBHibees
05-11-2021, 09:33 AM
Scotland fined for jeering Israel national anthem and 'inappropriate flag' - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59162090)


Fifa has fined the Scottish FA more than £8,000 after fans booed the Israeli national anthem at Hampden Park.
The penalty also includes an inappropriate flag on display during Scotland's World Cup qualifying victory last month.






That was pathetic to be fair

Saint Hibee
05-11-2021, 09:33 AM
As mentioned above, a shame that two young talented Edinburgh boys - Henderson and Hickey - don't get a chance given that they've both secured starting places in one of Europe's most competitive leagues. You suspect it would be a different story if they played for the Old Firm ...

JimBHibees
05-11-2021, 10:51 AM
Genuine question because I don't get to games - if KN is as bad as some say on here, why does he kept getting chosen for Scotland?

Quite simply because he isn't.

JimBHibees
05-11-2021, 10:53 AM
As mentioned above, a shame that two young talented Edinburgh boys - Henderson and Hickey - don't get a chance given that they've both secured starting places in one of Europe's most competitive leagues. You suspect it would be a different story if they played for the Old Firm ...

Don't think either are from Edinburgh

Saint Hibee
05-11-2021, 11:02 AM
Don't think either are from Edinburgh

I meant coming from Edinburgh clubs (and Livingston is almost Edinburgh!).

CMurdoch
05-11-2021, 12:22 PM
I meant coming from Edinburgh clubs (and Livingston is almost Edinburgh!).

Henderson is 25 and has played 12 Serie A games in his 5 years in Italian football and is a midfield player where Scotland have lots of top level players so no good reason to bring Liam into the squad yet.
Hickey is only 19 but has already played 21 Serie A games for Bologna. That is impressive but he is a left back where Scotland have top level players in Tierney and Robertson. If he keeps progressing his time will come but it's early yet.

Note: I haven't watched any Empoli or Bologna matches this season so could be well off the mark

Hiber-nation
05-11-2021, 12:27 PM
Not sure about Hendo yet but the likes of Ralston and Hickey will get their chance soon you'd imagine. Folk were moaning about Billy Gilmour and David Turnbull not being in the squad but it didn't take long for Clarke to include them.

CMurdoch
05-11-2021, 12:49 PM
Not sure about Hendo yet but the likes of Ralston and Hickey will get their chance soon you'd imagine. Folk were moaning about Billy Gilmour and David Turnbull not being in the squad but it didn't take long for Clarke to include them.

The squad is constantly evolving.
We have seen Marshall and Gallagher jettisoned out the back door after the Euro's
The same will happen after this World Cup campaign with folk like the remarkable O'Donnell. 23 caps with limited talent is a great effort but I think he will be superceded by more talented players. Gordon will probably disappear as well heralding a new goalkeeping era after the McGregor, Marshall and Gordon era.

There are definitely 4 big places up for grabs. Goalkeeper, Right Back, Centre Half and Striker for new outstanding candidates.
A few players currently jockeying for the positions.

Fergus52
05-11-2021, 06:34 PM
Henderson is 25 and has played 12 Serie A games in his 5 years in Italian football and is a midfield player where Scotland have lots of top level players so no good reason to bring Liam into the squad yet.
Hickey is only 19 but has already played 21 Serie A games for Bologna. That is impressive but he is a left back where Scotland have top level players in Tierney and Robertson. If he keeps progressing his time will come but it's early yet.

Note: I haven't watched any Empoli or Bologna matches this season so could be well off the mark

Hickey is fully ambidextrous, just as comfortable on the right as on the left.

He should be given a shot at right wing back imo, from what I've seen he has been excellent this season in one of the best leagues in europe

Rumble de Thump
05-11-2021, 07:32 PM
Henderson is 25 and has played 12 Serie A games in his 5 years in Italian football and is a midfield player where Scotland have lots of top level players so no good reason to bring Liam into the squad yet.
Hickey is only 19 but has already played 21 Serie A games for Bologna. That is impressive but he is a left back where Scotland have top level players in Tierney and Robertson. If he keeps progressing his time will come but it's early yet.

Note: I haven't watched any Empoli or Bologna matches this season so could be well off the mark

Henderson has also won six medals in three different countries, which is pretty good. Good players playing at a high level should be brought into the squad so the coaching staff can at least get a proper look at them in training. Whether he should get into the starting lineup is another story.

Lancs Harp
05-11-2021, 09:01 PM
Hickey is fully ambidextrous, just as comfortable on the right as on the left.

He should be given a shot at right wing back imo, from what I've seen he has been excellent this season in one of the best leagues in europe

On TV Ive seen Bologna play 3 times this season and Hickey has started every game. To be fair the lad has done well and he's clearly settling into a pretty high standard environment. Been quite impressed by him to be honest,

where'stheslope
06-11-2021, 01:54 PM
As mentioned above, a shame that two young talented Edinburgh boys - Henderson and Hickey - don't get a chance given that they've both secured starting places in one of Europe's most competitive leagues. You suspect it would be a different story if they played for the Old Firm ...
Reported in the papers this morning Milan interested in Hickey in the mid season break?
If true, you have to question why he's not in the squad at least???

Nakedmanoncrack
07-11-2021, 06:37 PM
I meant coming from Edinburgh clubs (and Livingston is almost Edinburgh!).

You seriously think that having an Edinburgh team as your previous club would be held against a player?

allmodcons
07-11-2021, 07:16 PM
What's the story with James McArthur. Playing really well at Palace. Is he considered too old at 34?

bigwheel
07-11-2021, 07:19 PM
What's the story with James McArthur. Playing really well at Palace. Is he considered too old at 34?

I seem to recall he self selected international retirement a few years ago …..

JimBHibees
08-11-2021, 06:14 AM
I seem to recall he self selected international retirement a few years ago …..

He did

SHODAN
08-11-2021, 07:52 AM
Reported in the papers this morning Milan interested in Hickey in the mid season break?
If true, you have to question why he's not in the squad at least???

Is Hickey can play right wing back then by all means get him in the squad.

patlowe
08-11-2021, 12:20 PM
I seem to recall he self selected international retirement a few years ago …..

He does seem to be doing really well at the moment, good on him at his age. Are we missing out on a very good player or is he showing this form because he is able to rest his body without the international burden? Seem to remember him having some injury issues.

Smartie
08-11-2021, 12:41 PM
He does seem to be doing really well at the moment, good on him at his age. Are we missing out on a very good player or is he showing this form because he is able to rest his body without the international burden? Seem to remember him having some injury issues.

As well as he’s playing, who does he get in ahead of?

Obviously we always want as many good players in good form as we can get, but I’d be more uppity about it if he was a striker who was doing well at club level but not wanting to play.

We’re quite well served for central midfielders.

EI255
08-11-2021, 09:03 PM
Robbie sour face finally got his wish with Soutter getting called up.

How long has he been chucking his star wars toys out his pink pram to get this???

Pathetic behaviour.

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Stuart93
08-11-2021, 09:07 PM
Robbie sour face finally got his wish with Soutter getting called up.

How long has he been chucking his star wars toys out his pink pram to get this???

Pathetic behaviour.

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Tbf, Souttar deserves his call up imo. He’s a good player.

SteveHFC
08-11-2021, 09:28 PM
Tbf, Souttar deserves his call up imo. He’s a good player.

Agreed. :aok:

CMurdoch
08-11-2021, 10:26 PM
Robbie sour face finally got his wish with Soutter getting called up.

How long has he been chucking his star wars toys out his pink pram to get this???

Pathetic behaviour.

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I don't think Robbie Replay wanted him called up.
To him it will represent an unnecessary injury risk.

Speedy
09-11-2021, 07:59 AM
Not so sure we are that well served in the poor run we are on central midfield has imo been one of our weakest areas.

We have the volume of central midfielders but we don’t have many game changers in there. Lots of run of the mill players - guys like McLean and Fleck are no use.

JimBHibees
09-11-2021, 10:35 AM
We have the volume of central midfielders but we don’t have many game changers in there. Lots of run of the mill players - guys like McLean and Fleck are no use.

Apologies got confused and was thinking I was talking about the Hibs midfield :greengrin

Speedy
09-11-2021, 10:48 AM
Apologies got confused and was thinking I was talking about the Hibs midfield :greengrin

I'd begrudgingly take McLean in the hibs midfield :greengrin

Smartie
09-11-2021, 10:50 AM
I'd begrudgingly take McLean in the hibs midfield :greengrin

Fleck can gtf though, whatever the question is that is being asked.

Rumble de Thump
09-11-2021, 12:24 PM
Hickey has pulled out of the under 21 squad again, saying he needs a rest. He seems to get subbed in most of his games for Bologna so it's a bit of a worry if he's needing a rest this early in the season.

JimBHibees
09-11-2021, 03:13 PM
I'd begrudgingly take McLean in the hibs midfield :greengrin

:greengrin

BILLYHIBS
10-11-2021, 05:20 PM
Kevin Nisbet says he can bounce back with a goal if given a chance by Stevie Clarke on Friday

STV News

JimBHibees
11-11-2021, 06:19 AM
Didn't realise Hanley was out injured. Could be a miss.

lyonhibs
11-11-2021, 06:50 AM
On TV Ive seen Bologna play 3 times this season and Hickey has started every game. To be fair the lad has done well and he's clearly settling into a pretty high standard environment. Been quite impressed by him to be honest,

He was clearly the best of the Hearts lot that were lobbed into the starting XI by Svengali Levein about 3 seasons ago. Quality player, got a big future ahead of him and great to see him move abroad and test himself/experience a different culture as opposed to just heading along the M8

number9dream
11-11-2021, 11:09 AM
Didn't realise Hanley was out injured. Could be a miss.

McTominay out now too. Souttar could well get a start.

JimBHibees
11-11-2021, 02:55 PM
McTominay out now too. Souttar could well get a start.

Hope not to be honest

green day
12-11-2021, 08:34 AM
McTominay out now too. Souttar could well get a start.

I would be surprised if he didnt tbqhwy.

And I would hope he did well for Scotland - decent player who has suffered a few bad injuries.

oneone73
12-11-2021, 08:35 AM
I would be surprised if he didnt tbqhwy.

And I would hope he did well for Scotland - decent player who has suffered a few bad injuries.

Would be happy with Souttar starting, but think it will be Cooper

Not In The Know
12-11-2021, 08:59 AM
Reported in the papers this morning Milan interested in Hickey in the mid season break?
If true, you have to question why he's not in the squad at least???


Have the master negotiators at tiny castle got a sell on clause?

Tyler Durden
12-11-2021, 09:23 AM
I would be surprised if he didnt tbqhwy.

And I would hope he did well for Scotland - decent player who has suffered a few bad injuries.

Don't see Souttar starting. It will be Tierney - Cooper - Hendry.

Souttar looked out of his depth the last time he played for Scotland - he's good on the ball but not a great defender.

number9dream
12-11-2021, 09:31 AM
I understand the need for continuity but if two options for right-sided centre-half are missing away to Moldova then how about ditching three central defenders for one game?
Hendry and Tierney can surely the job with Patterson and Robertson the full-backs and it gives us one more player further up the park like Armstrong or Turnbull, who could help unlock a defensive team.
Appreciate that it's a big game and a win is imperative therefore Clarke is likely to stick with what has been a successful formula in recent games - even if performances haven't been too convincing.

wookie70
12-11-2021, 12:05 PM
I understand the need for continuity but if two options for right-sided centre-half are missing away to Moldova then how about ditching three central defenders for one game?
Hendry and Tierney can surely the job with Patterson and Robertson the full-backs and it gives us one more player further up the park like Armstrong or Turnbull, who could help unlock a defensive team.
Appreciate that it's a big game and a win is imperative therefore Clarke is likely to stick with what has been a successful formula in recent games - even if performances haven't been too convincing.

The draw may end up being enough so I doubt Clarke will be bold enough to really go for it. I expect Cooper will start.

Radium
12-11-2021, 12:09 PM
https://twitter.com/scotlandnt/status/1459135134859411482?s=21


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JimBHibees
12-11-2021, 12:33 PM
Don't see Souttar starting. It will be Tierney - Cooper - Hendry.

Souttar looked out of his depth the last time he played for Scotland - he's good on the ball but not a great defender.

Agree with every point certainly wouldn't be throwing Souttar in when we have guys who have been in the squad for ages who can play.

Hiber-nation
12-11-2021, 02:37 PM
Nisbet on bench. Armstrong starts.

https://twitter.com/ScotlandNT/status/1459182716742733859?t=pdTgUe7SCKlMwC3wBy-LMw&s=19

SteveHFC
12-11-2021, 02:44 PM
Nisbet on bench. Armstrong starts.

https://twitter.com/ScotlandNT/status/1459182716742733859?t=pdTgUe7SCKlMwC3wBy-LMw&s=19

Some idiots moaning Cooper is playing over Souttar :faf:

Hiber-nation
12-11-2021, 02:47 PM
Some idiots moaning Cooper is playing over Souttar :faf:

Aye he's not just going to throw players in. Armstrong hasn't been great for Scotland but without Dykes and Christie he was the obvious choice I suppose given Nisbet's poor form.

lord bunberry
12-11-2021, 03:38 PM
Faddy’s dyed hair is causing me problems trying to focus on what’s being said.

eastmainsmsh
12-11-2021, 03:42 PM
Moldova assistant ion testimitanu once a trialist at Hibs

Sir David Gray
12-11-2021, 04:02 PM
Scotland goal offside.

Sir David Gray
12-11-2021, 04:05 PM
Decent chance for Moldova, should have been on target.

Hibs90
12-11-2021, 04:07 PM
Decent chance for Moldova, should have been on target.

Armstrong should be putting that in the corner

Mon Dieu4
12-11-2021, 04:21 PM
Got to be taking that on with your left foot there

Sir David Gray
12-11-2021, 04:22 PM
Massive save from Gordon.

Should be 1-0 Moldova.

hibsbollah
12-11-2021, 04:24 PM
Got to be taking that on with your left foot there

You hate a one footed player eh?:greengrin

Lago
12-11-2021, 04:26 PM
Massive save from Gordon.

Should be 1-0 Moldova.
He is a very good keeper, 39years old too I think.

Mon Dieu4
12-11-2021, 04:27 PM
You hate a one footed player eh?:greengrin

Despise it, if a jakey like me can use both feet then it should be a prerequisite for a professional

greenlex
12-11-2021, 04:28 PM
If Scotland had even a half decent striker we’d be about three up by now.

hibsbollah
12-11-2021, 04:29 PM
Despise it, if a jakey like me can use both feet then it should be a prerequisite for a professional

It always seems to be left footers that get criticised for being one footed; i think when youre right footed and never use your left its not noticed as much.

Mon Dieu4
12-11-2021, 04:32 PM
It always seems to be left footers that get criticised for being one footed; i think when youre right footed and never use your left its not noticed as much.

That's true but right footers never get described as having a cultured right foot haha

Sir David Gray
12-11-2021, 04:36 PM
He is a very good keeper, 39years old too I think.

He's 39 on New Year's Eve.

hibsbollah
12-11-2021, 04:38 PM
That's true but right footers never get described as having a cultured right foot haha

thats because left feet melt at a higher temperature and have a creamier flavour (warning: home economics content)

Sir David Gray
12-11-2021, 04:38 PM
1-0 Scotland

Patterson

SteveHFC
12-11-2021, 04:39 PM
Yass

Scorrie
12-11-2021, 04:39 PM
Great goal

weecounty hibby
12-11-2021, 04:39 PM
****ing VAR doesn't half kill the mood.

J-C
12-11-2021, 04:40 PM
Team looks better balanced without shoehorning in McTomminay, a decent player but just because he plays for Man U shouldn't make him a guaranteed starter.

Cracking goal by Patterson.

Lago
12-11-2021, 04:41 PM
What a good goal by young Patterson 👍

blackpoolhibs
12-11-2021, 04:41 PM
FFS thats why var is a joke, every goal is now being checked. :rolleyes:

Scottie
12-11-2021, 04:42 PM
1-0 Scotland

Patterson
Just gonna ask what all the hype about Patterson is then boom :faf:

hhibs
12-11-2021, 04:43 PM
Aye he's not just going to throw players in. Armstrong hasn't been great for Scotland but without Dykes and Christie he was the obvious choice I suppose given Nisbet's poor form.


Armstrong not contributing,again in my opinion.

No doubt he will now score.

J-C
12-11-2021, 04:45 PM
McGinn again a standout in that advanced role yet Dean Smith played him deep

Sir David Gray
12-11-2021, 04:47 PM
Half time 1-0.

Scorrie
12-11-2021, 05:05 PM
Adams should’ve have scored there. Great play by McGinn

J-C
12-11-2021, 05:05 PM
McGinn brilliant and Adams has to score

007
12-11-2021, 05:05 PM
Why didn't Adams just hit it 1st time instead of trying to control it?

Pretty Boy
12-11-2021, 05:09 PM
Scotland have been very good tonight. Having young players like Gilmour and Paterson in there with the slightly older heads like McGinn and McGreggor makes all the difference. We look well balanced.

We are a clinical striker away from blowing teams like Moldova away and being very competitive against far better sides.

Brightside
12-11-2021, 05:13 PM
Bring on Niz

Scorrie
12-11-2021, 05:24 PM
Yes Adams!

SteveHFC
12-11-2021, 05:24 PM
Play offs here we come :hyper :hyper

J-C
12-11-2021, 05:24 PM
0-2 Adams, well taken and well deserved.

stoneyburn hibs
12-11-2021, 05:24 PM
Super John is different class.

greenlex
12-11-2021, 05:24 PM
SJM you sexy *******.

Sir David Gray
12-11-2021, 05:25 PM
Good goal Scotland.

blackpoolhibs
12-11-2021, 05:25 PM
John McGinn is a superb player, he's been ridiculously good tonight. :top marks

Hibs90
12-11-2021, 05:25 PM
Played some really good football this second half

Lago
12-11-2021, 05:26 PM
Good goal by Adams!

Vault Boy
12-11-2021, 05:26 PM
Absolutely superb move, SJM is ridiculously good.

Some game from young Patterson. Filling that RB position with some real quality could make a huge difference to us, hope he continues to show this level of performance and progression.

Lago
12-11-2021, 05:27 PM
Played some really good football this second half
👍

Scorrie
12-11-2021, 05:28 PM
That Nathan Patterson is some prospect

Northernhibee
12-11-2021, 05:28 PM
McGinn’s wanting pumped.

Lago
12-11-2021, 05:29 PM
Adams having good game

Sir David Gray
12-11-2021, 05:30 PM
Scotland goal ruled out.

Pretty Boy
12-11-2021, 05:32 PM
I think I'm in a bit of a minority but I think Armstrong has been superb tonight. He's been everywhere and his work rate has been immense.

Paterson will be our RB/RWB for a long time to come. Taking him to the Euros was a no brainer and it's his short now.

Scorrie
12-11-2021, 05:34 PM
I’m really puzzled why Gilmore isn’t getting a game for Norwich. Chelsea must be fuming about it as well

CMurdoch
12-11-2021, 05:35 PM
Hibs duffer on :wink:

JXM73
12-11-2021, 05:36 PM
Hibs duffer on :wink:

Hope he gets booked....

Hibby70
12-11-2021, 05:38 PM
Surely that's a penalty

007
12-11-2021, 05:38 PM
That's a pen.

Sir David Gray
12-11-2021, 05:38 PM
Penalty Moldova.

cabbageandribs1875
12-11-2021, 05:39 PM
wtf on gods great earth was that stupid arm ball all about

Lago
12-11-2021, 05:39 PM
Penalty coming up

Sir David Gray
12-11-2021, 05:39 PM
Gordon saves!

cabbageandribs1875
12-11-2021, 05:40 PM
well done the spotty man

Scorrie
12-11-2021, 05:41 PM
What about the follow up from Tierney at that pen. Brilliant defending

HibbyAndy
12-11-2021, 05:42 PM
What about the follow up from Tierney at that pen. Brilliant defending

:agree::top marks

Lago
12-11-2021, 05:42 PM
well done the spotty man
He is good good goalkeeper, held my nose a bit there, but facts are facts.

Hibs90
12-11-2021, 05:43 PM
Tierney on the rebound was immense

cabbageandribs1875
12-11-2021, 05:44 PM
He is good good goalkeeper, held my nose a bit there, but facts are facts.



:agree: credit where it's due

Coco Bryce
12-11-2021, 05:47 PM
Hibs duffer on :wink:

Certainly doesn't look injured to me?

007
12-11-2021, 05:48 PM
Certainly doesn't look injured to me?

Who said he was injured?

greenlex
12-11-2021, 05:49 PM
This is the most I’ve seen Nisbet run about in months. Not sure he touched the ball either.

Stuart93
12-11-2021, 05:49 PM
Is nisbet on?

J-C
12-11-2021, 05:49 PM
How on earth McLean get a Scotland call up baffles me, bang average at best.

Coco Bryce
12-11-2021, 05:49 PM
Who said he was injured?

People on here have been using this as an excuse for him being poor this season? Where you been, the moon?

Lago
12-11-2021, 05:50 PM
Is nisbet on?
Anonymous

Coco Bryce
12-11-2021, 05:50 PM
Is nisbet on?

Nowhere near good enough for Scotland.

J-C
12-11-2021, 05:51 PM
Who said he was injured?

One or two suggesting he was hence why his performances have been poor.

Sir David Gray
12-11-2021, 05:51 PM
Full time 2-0.

Scotland the first team to reach the play offs.

Stuart93
12-11-2021, 05:52 PM
Anonymous

Carried his club form into national duties. Doesn’t look like he wants to be involved.

Very professional performance from Scotland though, which is unusual haha.

J-C
12-11-2021, 05:52 PM
Good win and performance.

Lago
12-11-2021, 05:52 PM
Full time 2-0.

Scotland the first team to reach the play offs.
Played well, but a lot still to do.

Coco Bryce
12-11-2021, 05:53 PM
Some fantastic young players in our squad.

Magpie
12-11-2021, 05:53 PM
Full time 2-0.

Scotland the first team to reach the play offs.

Wales were guaranteed a play off place after Spain won last night.

Northernhibee
12-11-2021, 05:53 PM
We’re a good football team.

Sir David Gray
12-11-2021, 05:55 PM
Wales were guaranteed a play off place after Spain won last night.

Yes sorry just meant through the qualifiers.

Lago
12-11-2021, 05:56 PM
We’re a good football team.
For all the negativity at the beginning have to give Clarke a lot of credit for where Scotland is now.

cabbageandribs1875
12-11-2021, 05:57 PM
Denmark still to lose a goal, lets not allow them to go through a whole qualifying campaign without losing a goal and bring home the Bacon

weecounty hibby
12-11-2021, 05:57 PM
That was a nightmare for Nisbet but yet again we have Hibs fans who can't wait to put the boot into him. He came on with 15 to go. The penalty incident all round took up about 7 or eight minutes. By that time the game was already breaking up and Scotland had almost settled for 2-0 so not much for the strikers. How does everyone think Brown did when he came on? I would suggest no better or worse than Kevin, but then again i do naturally want to try to stick up for Hibs players

SteveHFC
12-11-2021, 05:57 PM
:hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper

Play offs again

superfurryhibby
12-11-2021, 05:59 PM
Take the points, but that was pretty dire against mediocre opposition. McGregor, Armstrong looked well off the pace. Adams was poor but got a goal. McGinn was a class above everyone else on the field today.

Oh aye, well done to big plooky pus, some save with the penalty.

Allant1981
12-11-2021, 06:00 PM
Take the points, but that was pretty dire against mediocre opposition. McGregor, Armstrong looked well off the pace. Adams was poor but got a goal. McGinn was a class above everyone else on the field today.

Oh aye, well done to big plooky pus, some save with the penalty.

It was nowhere near dire

Pretty Boy
12-11-2021, 06:00 PM
Great performance in terms of prefessionalism and dictating the game. Job done and everyone done what was asked of them. No passengers from goalkeeper through to striker.

We'll be competitive in the play offs.

Lago
12-11-2021, 06:01 PM
That was a nightmare for Nisbet but yet again we have Hibs fans who can't wait to put the boot into him. He came on with 15 to go. The penalty incident all round took up about 7 or eight minutes. By that time the game was already breaking up and Scotland had almost settled for 2-0 so not much for the strikers. How does everyone think Brown did when he came on? I would suggest no better or worse than Kevin, but then again i do naturally want to try to stick up for Hibs players
Wonder if Gerrard might be tempted to go for him in January?

Hibee Mac
12-11-2021, 06:01 PM
That was a nightmare for Nisbet but yet again we have Hibs fans who can't wait to put the boot into him. He came on with 15 to go. The penalty incident all round took up about 7 or eight minutes. By that time the game was already breaking up and Scotland had almost settled for 2-0 so not much for the strikers. How does everyone think Brown did when he came on? I would suggest no better or worse than Kevin, but then again i do naturally want to try to stick up for Hibs players

Genuine comment, I don't think Nisbet touched the ball?

Brown was more involved in his first 10 seconds on the pitch than Nisbet's entire 15 mins.

I don't enjoy sticking the boot into Hibs players but Nisbet shouldn't be in the Hibs first 11 right now let alone getting a Scotland call up. The guy needs a boot up the ****.

Paul1642
12-11-2021, 06:04 PM
How are we looking in terms of being seeded?

The Harp Awakes
12-11-2021, 06:04 PM
It was nowhere near dire

Agree. Thought Scotland were decent. Moved the ball quickly, scored 2 very good goals and pressed the ball relentlessly. We'd have drawn or lost that game a few years back.

Coco Bryce
12-11-2021, 06:04 PM
That was a nightmare for Nisbet but yet again we have Hibs fans who can't wait to put the boot into him. He came on with 15 to go. The penalty incident all round took up about 7 or eight minutes. By that time the game was already breaking up and Scotland had almost settled for 2-0 so not much for the strikers. How does everyone think Brown did when he came on? I would suggest no better or worse than Kevin, but then again i do naturally want to try to stick up for Hibs players

Brown doesn't play for Hibs so we don't care.

JimBHibees
12-11-2021, 06:06 PM
Agree. Thought Scotland were decent. Moved the ball quickly, scored 2 very good goals and pressed the ball relentlessly. We'd have drawn or lost that game a few years back.

We were good anyone saying different is at it. Quality of the goals was exceptional. Great achievement to win the play off place.

007
12-11-2021, 06:07 PM
People on here have been using this as an excuse for him being poor this season? Where you been, the moon?

And we're you just waiting for an opportunity to have a go?

Sir David Gray
12-11-2021, 06:07 PM
How are we looking in terms of being seeded?

Really need at least a point on Monday.

A defeat will almost certainly see us unseeded.

Billy Whizz
12-11-2021, 06:07 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/59210113

Just started

lord bunberry
12-11-2021, 06:14 PM
And we're you just waiting for an opportunity to have a go?
Of course he was, any opportunity.

oneone73
12-11-2021, 06:15 PM
God, this site can suck the joy out of anything.
What a crap place it's become.

Billy Whizz
12-11-2021, 06:17 PM
God, this site can suck the joy out of anything.
What a crap place it's become.

Absolutely, we should be enjoying this result and performance, and a current Hibs player involved too

weecounty hibby
12-11-2021, 06:17 PM
Anyway, good performance, good goals and through to the play-off where we probably targeted. Not the biggest fan of Clarke but he is doing a very decent job.

Coco Bryce
12-11-2021, 06:18 PM
And we're you just waiting for an opportunity to have a go?

Waiting to have a go at who? The people who said he was carrying an injury or Nisbet?

Coco Bryce
12-11-2021, 06:18 PM
Of course he was, any opportunity.

Aye OK 😂😂

JimBHibees
12-11-2021, 06:23 PM
Genuine comment, I don't think Nisbet touched the ball?

Brown was more involved in his first 10 seconds on the pitch than Nisbet's entire 15 mins.

I don't enjoy sticking the boot into Hibs players but Nisbet shouldn't be in the Hibs first 11 right now let alone getting a Scotland call up. The guy needs a boot up the ****.

Ridiculous comment

Bridge hibs
12-11-2021, 06:26 PM
Ridiculous commentusual suspects out in force again tonight, ****ing pathetic

JimBHibees
12-11-2021, 06:26 PM
Nowhere near good enough for Scotland.

Steve will decide that.

Blaster
12-11-2021, 06:28 PM
Take the points, but that was pretty dire against mediocre opposition. McGregor, Armstrong looked well off the pace. Adams was poor but got a goal. McGinn was a class above everyone else on the field today.

Oh aye, well done to big plooky pus, some save with the penalty.

Dire. Jeezo mate try and be positive about something for once.

JimBHibees
12-11-2021, 06:29 PM
Carried his club form into national duties. Doesn’t look like he wants to be involved.

Very professional performance from Scotland though, which is unusual haha.

ffs give the boy a break. Got no service at all.

JimBHibees
12-11-2021, 06:30 PM
usual suspects out in force again tonight, ****ing pathetic

Yep agree pathetic

Coco Bryce
12-11-2021, 06:31 PM
Steve will decide that.

I can decide for myself thanks.

007
12-11-2021, 06:33 PM
Waiting to have a go at who? The people who said he was carrying an injury or Nisbet?

You tell me? It must have been one or the other if you had to ask which it was.

Lancs Harp
12-11-2021, 06:34 PM
You can ony beat whats in front of you. I thought Scotland did what they had to and totally controlled the game. Great performance from Gilmour again he's a joy to watch. Anyway enjoy your night fellas it wasnt a bad warm up act for the main event. :wink::greengrin

Coco Bryce
12-11-2021, 06:36 PM
You tell me? It must have been one or the other if you had to ask which it was.

It was you that told me I was having a go?

So basically you don't actually have a clue what you're on about but thought you would just post anyway? Strange person.

Hiber-nation
12-11-2021, 06:41 PM
Take the points, but that was pretty dire against mediocre opposition. McGregor, Armstrong looked well off the pace. Adams was poor but got a goal. McGinn was a class above everyone else on the field today.

Oh aye, well done to big plooky pus, some save with the penalty.

What a load of absolute nonsense.

Hibee Mac
12-11-2021, 06:41 PM
Ridiculous commentHardly, just saying it how I see it. No need to get touchy about it.

For what it's worth I thought we were excellent tonight, Adams, McGinn, Tierney, Robertson, Gilmore, Paterson all very good.

SteveHFC
12-11-2021, 06:45 PM
usual suspects out in force again tonight, ****ing pathetic

Scotland qualify for the world cup playoffs and there’s people moaning. ****ing pathetic.

brog
12-11-2021, 06:46 PM
You can ony beat whats in front of you. I thought Scotland did what they had to and totally controlled the game. Great performance from Gilmour again he's a joy to watch. Anyway enjoy your night fellas it wasnt a bad warm up act for the main event. :wink::greengrin

I'm probably in a very small minority, along with Daniel ****e, but I really don't get the hype about Gilmour. You can see he's talented but there's too little end product. He spent the 1st half emulating McGregor by passing sideways and backwards. Was much better in the 2nd but we totally rely on SJM. He provided a huge percentage of our midfield drive and creativity. What a player he's become.

Bridge hibs
12-11-2021, 06:48 PM
Scotland qualify for the world cup playoffs and there’s people moaning. ****ing pathetic.Correct and Nisbet getting it in the neck again, no surprise really, different day, same **** from the same posters

Lancs Harp
12-11-2021, 06:48 PM
I'm probably in a very small minority, along with Daniel ****e, but I really don't get the hype about Gilmour. You can see he's talented but there's too little end product. He spent the 1st half emulating McGregor by passing sideways and backwards. Was much better in the 2nd but we totally rely on SJM. He provided a huge percentage of our midfield drive and creativity. What a player he's become.

I thought he was quite majestic tonight, ok it was only Moldova but still, youve got to produce the goods. For me he's the creative spark in Scotlands midfield, SJM provides the drive. Its a very useful mix.

Scorrie
12-11-2021, 06:49 PM
I'm probably in a very small minority, along with Daniel ****e, but I really don't get the hype about Gilmour. You can see he's talented but there's too little end product. He spent the 1st half emulating McGregor by passing sideways and backwards. Was much better in the 2nd but we totally rely on SJM. He provided a huge percentage of our midfield drive and creativity. What a player he's become.

Agree totally about McGinn but have to disagree about Gilmour. He does look for the forward pass as well. It was his pass that set up the first goal. Norwich will have a new coach now so will be interesting to see what happens to Gilmour or if Chelsea call him back

lord bunberry
12-11-2021, 06:51 PM
I can decide for myself thanks.
Thankfully you’re opinion means nothing.

Lago
12-11-2021, 06:52 PM
God, this site can suck the joy out of anything.
What a crap place it's become.
Yip gone down hill since I joined, used to have good debate, banter and some laughs, not now.

flash
12-11-2021, 06:53 PM
Well done Scotland and well done Kevin Nisbet for being a part of it.
You can see he is desperately low on confidence.

Bridge hibs
12-11-2021, 06:56 PM
Well done Scotland and well done Kevin Nisbet for being a part of it.
You can see he is desperately low on confidence.Good post mate 🖕 the haters 👍

Coco Bryce
12-11-2021, 06:59 PM
Thankfully you’re opinion means nothing.

As does yours. Enjoy your night.

brog
12-11-2021, 07:03 PM
Agree totally about McGinn but have to disagree about Gilmour. He does look for the forward pass as well. It was his pass that set up the first goal. Norwich will have a new coach now so will be interesting to see what happens to Gilmour or if Chelsea call him back

He passed a ball to SJM who had a man right on him. The goal was 100% down to SJM. I'm not knocking the boy, like everyone I want him to succeed but I think in our desperation we have tartan specs on when watching him. Similarly with Patterson, 2 outstanding moments for the goals but very raw and exposed at times. I think him being out for Denmark could be a blessing in disguise.

brog
12-11-2021, 07:04 PM
Anyone know if U21 game is on anywhere? No info about state of play on wonderful SFA site.

oneone73
12-11-2021, 07:05 PM
Anyone know if U21 game is on anywhere? No info about state of play on wonderful SFA site.

BBC website

Sir David Gray
12-11-2021, 07:05 PM
Anyone know if U21 game is on anywhere? No info about state of play on wonderful SFA site.

BBC red button and iPlayer.

lord bunberry
12-11-2021, 07:08 PM
As does yours. Enjoy your night.
And you.

brog
12-11-2021, 07:18 PM
BBC red button and iPlayer.

Thx to both of you. Found it.

brog
12-11-2021, 07:22 PM
Thx to both of you. Found it.

Superb by Josh for our 2nd goal and great finish by Middleton.

007
12-11-2021, 07:23 PM
It was you that told me I was having a go?

So basically you don't actually have a clue what you're on about but thought you would just post anyway? Strange person.

I asked if you were just waiting on an opportunity to have a go. You needed clarification if I was meaning the people who said he was carrying an injury or Nisbet. If it was neither your answer should have been no, you weren't just waiting for an opportunity. I pointed out that because you had to ask which it was then you must have have been waiting for an opportunity to have at go at one or the other.

You are obviously the one who doesn't have a clue.

HH81
12-11-2021, 07:45 PM
Gilmore is excellent. No idea why he doesn't get into the Norwich team. Crazy.

blackpoolhibs
12-11-2021, 07:47 PM
How are we looking in terms of being seeded?

Slightly better chance than Susan Boyle.

Coco Bryce
12-11-2021, 07:49 PM
I asked if you were just waiting on an opportunity to have a go. You needed clarification if I was meaning the people who said he was carrying an injury or Nisbet. If it was neither your answer should have been no, you weren't just waiting for an opportunity. I pointed out that because you had to ask which it was then you must have have been waiting for an opportunity to have at go at one or the other.

You are obviously the one who doesn't have a clue.

I'll ask you again dafty. Who was I having a go at?

JimBHibees
12-11-2021, 07:49 PM
I can decide for myself thanks.

You can but he is the one who decides who plays for the national team while you aren't really. :greengrin

Coco Bryce
12-11-2021, 07:51 PM
You can but he is the one who decides who plays for the national team while you aren't really. :greengrin

Correct. And just as well probably 😉

Bishop Hibee
12-11-2021, 07:58 PM
Job done and two great goals. Big ask for a point v Denmark on Monday but I’ll be there cheering the boys on.

wookie70
12-11-2021, 08:01 PM
I missed the first half of the game but I thought we played really well in the second half. We pressed and got in their faces and played the vast majority of that half in their half. Lots of good moves, skill pace and a cracking goal. If we can play towards the top of our form we can be competitive in the play off particularly if we are seeded.

Pretty Boy
12-11-2021, 08:02 PM
I don't think Nisbet done much tonight when he came on but I didn't really expect him to. The game was done, we had settled for what we had and it was always likely to be a lonely few minutes for a striker.

I think there just needs to be an acceptance that he is never going to be a striker who runs about daft, chasing lost causes and the like. He has plenty other qualities that make up for that though. He's desperately low on confidence at the moment and that will be contributing to his lack of contribution lately. With Doidge back in the next few weeks we have the ability to remove him from the firing line for a bit or get a bit support up there with him and get him back on form.

It's a great night for Scottish football. I'm not sure there is too much need to focus on a couple of negatives. I think everyone's knows we lack a real top class striker. We have won 5 in a row with that issue though, we'll be competitive in the play offs even with that issue.

Shrekko
12-11-2021, 08:05 PM
I thought he was quite majestic tonight, ok it was only Moldova but still, youve got to produce the goods. For me he's the creative spark in Scotlands midfield, SJM provides the drive. Its a very useful mix.

Agree - majestic is the word and he’s been like that virtually every game he’s played for the National team. The Norwich boss who didn’t play him is now out of work.

Seeing him in the flesh v Israel was mind boggling - must be the most naturally gifted player we’ve produced since the young Paul McStay?

007
12-11-2021, 08:16 PM
I'll ask you again dafty. Who was I having a go at?

You were asked a question first and haven't managed to answer it yet. Answer that and then I'll answer yours.

greenlex
12-11-2021, 08:21 PM
I don't think Nisbet done much tonight when he came on but I didn't really expect him to. The game was done, we had settled for what we had and it was always likely to be a lonely few minutes for a striker.

I think there just needs to be an acceptance that he is never going to be a striker who runs about daft, chasing lost causes and the like. He has plenty other qualities that make up for that though. He's desperately low on confidence at the moment and that will be contributing to his lack of contribution lately. With Doidge back in the next few weeks we have the ability to remove him from the firing line for a bit or get a bit support up there with him and get him back on form.

It's a great night for Scottish football. I'm not sure there is too much need to focus on a couple of negatives. I think everyone's knows we lack a real top class striker. We have won 5 in a row with that issue though, we'll be competitive in the play offs even with that issue.
He was running about the whole time he was on. Real urgency. Ok it was only 15mins or so but why can he do it in a Scotland jersey when the games well won but seems to become almost statuesque for Hibs even when chasing a game? Perhaps I’m being harsh as he had a strike Partner proper tonight and hasnt really in a Hibs side.

CMurdoch
12-11-2021, 08:22 PM
Well done Scotland and well done Kevin Nisbet for being a part of it.
You can see he is desperately low on confidence.

Nisbet and Brown were sent on to run about and close folk down which they both did.
Hard to believe anyone would give Nisbet a hard time about tonight. Then again.............

Bridge hibs
12-11-2021, 08:32 PM
He was running about the whole time he was on. Real urgency. Ok it was only 15mins or so but why can he do it in a Scotland jersey when the games well won but seems to become almost statuesque for Hibs even when chasing a game? Perhaps I’m being harsh as he had a strike Partner proper tonight and hasnt really in a Hibs side.He doesnt stand statuesque in a hibs jersey, you are making that up, perhaps not as mobile but hardly statuesque, maybe he has been carrying an injury, do you know ?

greenlex
12-11-2021, 08:43 PM
He doesnt stand statuesque in a hibs jersey, you are making that up, perhaps not as mobile but hardly statuesque, maybe he has been carrying an injury, do you know ?

Statuesque in comparison and no I don’t know if he’s been carrying an injury. I guess we might find out next week.

CMurdoch
12-11-2021, 08:52 PM
Statuesque in comparison and no I don’t know if he’s been carrying an injury. I guess we might find out next week.

if he was carrying an injury he wouldn't be with Scotland

Coco Bryce
12-11-2021, 09:01 PM
You were asked a question first and haven't managed to answer it yet. Answer that and then I'll answer yours.

You seem to be getting confused here. You said I was having a go? I'll ask you one last time.

Who was I having a go at exactly?

007
12-11-2021, 09:16 PM
You seem to be getting confused here. You said I was having a go? I'll ask you one last time.

Who was I having a go at exactly?

You're obviously intent on not answering the question but from your replies it is either the people who have been saying Nisbet has been carrying an injury, Nisbet or both. Plus you've had a go at me several times too (albeit very minor level insults). Are you denying it?

superfurryhibby
12-11-2021, 10:02 PM
He passed a ball to SJM who had a man right on him. The goal was 100% down to SJM. I'm not knocking the boy, like everyone I want him to succeed but I think in our desperation we have tartan specs on when watching him. Similarly with Patterson, 2 outstanding moments for the goals but very raw and exposed at times. I think him being out for Denmark could be a blessing in disguise.

Patterson wasn't looking too good, then he pulls that goal out the bag, followed by the assist. As you say, raw.

Wasn’t really too impressed with Gilmour either, there was a huge gulf between him and McGinn in terms of driving the team forward and playing with comfort and style.

Still delighted with the win, but we will need a huge improvement to compete with Denmark. Moldova are 184 in the world and we gave them a few chances and survived conceding a penalty. McGregor and Armstrong need to offer more, much more.

brog
12-11-2021, 11:30 PM
Patterson wasn't looking too good, then he pulls that goal out the bag, followed by the assist. As you say, raw.

Wasn’t really too impressed with Gilmour either, there was a huge gulf between him and McGinn in terms of driving the team forward and playing with comfort and style.

Still delighted with the win, but we will need a huge improvement to compete with Denmark. Moldova are 184 in the world and we gave them a few chances and survived conceding a penalty. McGregor and Armstrong need to offer more, much more.

I'm with you. I've been following Scotland for over 50 years and I'm always delighted when we do well. My caveat is there's no point in qualifying for tournaments if we don't compete when we get there. We lost out on group stages on goal difference in 3 consecutive world cups. This summer we were 1 of the worst teams in the Euros. I really hope we go to the WC but I hope we go with a better team and a more positive approach than we had a few months ago.

Bridge hibs
13-11-2021, 07:00 AM
Statuesque in comparison and no I don’t know if he’s been carrying an injury. I guess we might find out next week.Hopefully he is raring to go, maybe have big Doidge beside him at some point too 👍

JammyDoidger
13-11-2021, 07:55 AM
He doesnt stand statuesque in a hibs jersey, you are making that up, perhaps not as mobile but hardly statuesque, maybe he has been carrying an injury, do you know ?

I watch him with hibs and he's very much 'statuesque' to the point he really annoys me, his closing down is laughable.

Tommy75
13-11-2021, 08:02 AM
I'm with you. I've been following Scotland for over 50 years and I'm always delighted when we do well. My caveat is there's no point in qualifying for tournaments if we don't compete when we get there. We lost out on group stages on goal difference in 3 consecutive world cups. This summer we were 1 of the worst teams in the Euros. I really hope we go to the WC but I hope we go with a better team and a more positive approach than we had a few months ago.

Yeah, Scotland will never win it but it would be nice to see them go and give a decent account of themselves. Scotland have only ever won 4 games at the World Cup, pretty shocking given some of the players produced over the years. Can't help but feel fans/media are just happy to qualify without any real expectation that the team will make an impression at the tournament.

Highwayman
13-11-2021, 09:01 AM
Kieran Tierneys action to intervene and divert the ball away from the Moldovan forward after Craig Gordon’s penalty save should be drilled into Hibs players by JR and his coaching crew.

How many times have we seen a Hibs keeper block a shot only for the opposition player to be first to the ball and knock it in.Meanwhile Hibs players are standing statuesque (today’s word) as the damage is being done.

Hope to see it utilised but not holding my breath.

Danderhall Hibs
13-11-2021, 09:08 AM
Kieran Tierneys action to intervene and divert the ball away from the Moldovan forward after Craig Gordon’s penalty save should be drilled into Hibs players by JR and his coaching crew.

How many times have we seen a Hibs keeper block a shot only for the opposition player to be first to the ball and knock it in.Meanwhile Hibs players are standing statuesque (today’s word) as the damage is being done.

Hope to see it utilised but not holding my breath.

It was a brilliant bit of defending - easily as good as the penalty save.

Don’t remember it happening (or not) often at Hibs though - last I remember is the cup final.

Smartie
13-11-2021, 09:15 AM
It was a brilliant bit of defending - easily as good as the penalty save.

Don’t remember it happening (or not) often at Hibs though - last I remember is the cup final.

I think it just stands out because it’s annoying.

Your goalkeeper does the hard bit but you still end up losing the goal.

It’s part physical (reaction time and having the raw acceleration to get there) but it also feels like it’s down to desire at times too.

where'stheslope
13-11-2021, 09:30 AM
Patterson wasn't looking too good, then he pulls that goal out the bag, followed by the assist. As you say, raw.

Wasn’t really too impressed with Gilmour either, there was a huge gulf between him and McGinn in terms of driving the team forward and playing with comfort and style.

Still delighted with the win, but we will need a huge improvement to compete with Denmark. Moldova are 184 in the world and we gave them a few chances and survived conceding a penalty. McGregor and Armstrong need to offer more, much more.
Having watched Patterson and McGinn last night, I wonder if Gerrard will fancy taking him to Villa?

B.H.F.C
13-11-2021, 09:31 AM
Take the points, but that was pretty dire against mediocre opposition. McGregor, Armstrong looked well off the pace. Adams was poor but got a goal. McGinn was a class above everyone else on the field today.

Oh aye, well done to big plooky pus, some save with the penalty.

Finishing wasn’t great but can’t call that dire!

Coco Bryce
13-11-2021, 09:40 AM
Having watched Patterson and McGinn last night, I wonder if Gerrard will fancy taking him to Villa?

Can see him coming back and taking Patterson and Aribo down with him for a few million. The Hun hordes will implode as a result. Pleasing.

B.H.F.C
13-11-2021, 09:42 AM
I'm with you. I've been following Scotland for over 50 years and I'm always delighted when we do well. My caveat is there's no point in qualifying for tournaments if we don't compete when we get there. We lost out on group stages on goal difference in 3 consecutive world cups. This summer we were 1 of the worst teams in the Euros. I really hope we go to the WC but I hope we go with a better team and a more positive approach than we had a few months ago.

Actually qualifying is the starting point though. We can’t just go from never being there to being there and being decent.

Team is on the right path with loads of potential.

superfurryhibby
13-11-2021, 09:51 AM
Finishing wasn’t great but can’t call that dire!

Yes, just as well the Moldvans didn’t take one of their chances, it could have ended up a real embarrassment.

What made it dire for me was the risk averse back and sideways passing, particularly from our midfielders. I can understand that seeing out the game with ten minutes to go, not as a matter of routine approach. There was a fair bit of fairly aimless launching it into the channels going on too.

Maybe an early goal would have changed the pattern of the game, as it was we huffed and puffed and were lucky the Moldovans didn’t score with a couple of great opportunities. On that note well done to Craig Gordon, he had a great game ( something we really shouldn’t be saying when talking about a game v Moldova).



Can see him coming back and taking Patterson and Aribo down with him for a few million. The Hun hordes will implode as a result. Pleasing.

Patterson is currently nowhere near good enough for the English top flight, Gerrard will know that fine well, that’s why he’s second choice right back at the Hun.

J-C
13-11-2021, 10:04 AM
Having watched Patterson and McGinn last night, I wonder if Gerrard will fancy taking him to Villa?


They have Matty Cash at Villa who's now a full Polish international and a very good wingback.

greenlex
13-11-2021, 10:07 AM
Hopefully he is raring to go, maybe have big Doidge beside him at some point too 👍
Fingers crossed.:thumbsup:

The Modfather
13-11-2021, 10:11 AM
Actually qualifying is the starting point though. We can’t just go from never being there to being there and being decent.

Team is on the right path with loads of potential.

Agree. We’ve gone some way to addressing some of our problem positions, namely CB and RB. Tierney, Hendry, Hanley & McTominay is a better group than we’ve had for a while. Patterson, while still raw, and possibly Ramsay at Aberdeen over the next few years have also been much needed.

We’re still a striker, and long term keeper, away from being able to consistently punch above our weight. We’re a good and competitive team, making playoffs and finishing above teams in a higher pot than us is slowly beginning to become the benchmark. How good would it be if someone like Laidlaw fulfilled their potential and it was one of ours who was the long term solution.

My main concern is that our upturn is more down to luck, and a very good manager, than anything else. Luck in that players in problem positions are starting to come through. We’re not doing anything differently to what hasn’t worked the last 20 or 30 years, so it could easily flip again. Despite the upturn we still need a root and branch clear out and modernisation of the SFA IMO.

Smartie
13-11-2021, 10:49 AM
Yes, just as well the Moldvans didn’t take one of their chances, it could have ended up a real embarrassment.

What made it dire for me was the risk averse back and sideways passing, particularly from our midfielders. I can understand that seeing out the game with ten minutes to go, not as a matter of routine approach. There was a fair bit of fairly aimless launching it into the channels going on too.

Maybe an early goal would have changed the pattern of the game, as it was we huffed and puffed and were lucky the Moldovans didn’t score with a couple of great opportunities. On that note well done to Craig Gordon, he had a great game ( something we really shouldn’t be saying when talking about a game v Moldova).




Patterson is currently nowhere near good enough for the English top flight, Gerrard will know that fine well, that’s why he’s second choice right back at the Hun.

Currently.

Patterson is raw and has very little first team experience but he has something about him.

A bit like Doig, there are good physical attributes and a player with big potential who is miles off being the finished article.

Clubs sometimes take punts on players like that and they end up working out long term but I agree Patterson looks miles off being PL level at the moment.

His biggest problem is he isn’t even the first choice at his current club and at this stage he really needs to be playing every week.

SHODAN
13-11-2021, 11:19 AM
Why didn't Nisbet score a hat-trick with his first touch of the ball? ****in' disgrace. Ross out.

B.H.F.C
13-11-2021, 11:34 AM
Yes, just as well the Moldvans didn’t take one of their chances, it could have ended up a real embarrassment.

What made it dire for me was the risk averse back and sideways passing, particularly from our midfielders. I can understand that seeing out the game with ten minutes to go, not as a matter of routine approach. There was a fair bit of fairly aimless launching it into the channels going on too.

Maybe an early goal would have changed the pattern of the game, as it was we huffed and puffed and were lucky the Moldovans didn’t score with a couple of great opportunities. On that note well done to Craig Gordon, he had a great game ( something we really shouldn’t be saying when talking about a game v Moldova).




Patterson is currently nowhere near good enough for the English top flight, Gerrard will know that fine well, that’s why he’s second choice right back at the Hun.

By that logic, surely the Moldovans were lucky we didn’t take one of our dozen chances, in addition to the two we did take?

We didn’t approach the game the way you are saying. Not a chance we were just playing sideways, risk averse football in midfield. One of our midfielders set up one goal and played a part in the other with a back heel!

You’re just seeing what you want to see there IMO (and I’m not even a particular fan of Steve Clarke).

superfurryhibby
13-11-2021, 11:34 AM
Currently.

Patterson is raw and has very little first team experience but he has something about him.

A bit like Doig, there are good physical attributes and a player with big potential who is miles off being the finished article.

Clubs sometimes take punts on players like that and they end up working out long term but I agree Patterson looks miles off being PL level at the moment.

His biggest problem is he isn’t even the first choice at his current club and at this stage he really needs to be playing every week.

I agree, the way he finished the chance showed a lot of skill and character. That said, I was genuinely thinking he was out of his depth prior to that. I dread to think how he would play against a decent left winger, I suppose we’ll find out v Denmark.

At the moment Patterson sits alongside Doig, it’s just that the absolute dearth of quality in the right wing back role has thrust him onto the international stage sooner. Both are talented and have the physical attributes to succeed at a higher level the the SPFL.

My main concern is the central midfield. McGinn carried a lot of his colleagues in there. Gilmour didn’t make much of an impression and McGregor and Armstrong lacked dynamism.

A point v Denmark would be a huge morale booster. They are pretty decent, but they’re not untouchable. A positive approach needed. Let’s hope Clarke send them out to take the game to them, work them hard and press intensely. Hampden will be jumping, let’s GIRFUT.

BoomtownHibees
13-11-2021, 12:17 PM
I agree, the way he finished the chance showed a lot of skill and character. That said, I was genuinely thinking he was out of his depth prior to that. I dread to think how he would play against a decent left winger, I suppose we’ll find out v Denmark.

At the moment Patterson sits alongside Doig, it’s just that the absolute dearth of quality in the right wing back role has thrust him onto the international stage sooner. Both are talented and have the physical attributes to succeed at a higher level the the SPFL.

My main concern is the central midfield. McGinn carried a lot of his colleagues in there. Gilmour didn’t make much of an impression and McGregor and Armstrong lacked dynamism.

A point v Denmark would be a huge morale booster. They are pretty decent, but they’re not untouchable. A positive approach needed. Let’s hope Clarke send them out to take the game to them, work them hard and press intensely. Hampden will be jumping, let’s GIRFUT.

I’m struggling to believe there is anyone who watched last nights game who thought Gilmour wasn’t quality. Was a bit worried about Armstrong coming back in but thought he actually done well enough.

Although needing to consider the level of opposition, I thought last night was one of our best in recent years.

hibby rae
13-11-2021, 12:25 PM
I agree, the way he finished the chance showed a lot of skill and character. That said, I was genuinely thinking he was out of his depth prior to that. I dread to think how he would play against a decent left winger, I suppose we’ll find out v Denmark.

At the moment Patterson sits alongside Doig, it’s just that the absolute dearth of quality in the right wing back role has thrust him onto the international stage sooner. Both are talented and have the physical attributes to succeed at a higher level the the SPFL.

My main concern is the central midfield. McGinn carried a lot of his colleagues in there. Gilmour didn’t make much of an impression and McGregor and Armstrong lacked dynamism.

A point v Denmark would be a huge morale booster. They are pretty decent, but they’re not untouchable. A positive approach needed. Let’s hope Clarke send them out to take the game to them, work them hard and press intensely. Hampden will be jumping, let’s GIRFUT.

He's suspended for the Denmark game.

That's the worry for the next game, we have so many players one booking away from a suspension, and they carry over into the play-offs.

superfurryhibby
13-11-2021, 12:54 PM
I’m struggling to believe there is anyone who watched last nights game who thought Gilmour wasn’t quality. Was a bit worried about Armstrong coming back in but thought he actually done well enough.

Although needing to consider the level of opposition, I thought last night was one of our best in recent years.

Each to their own, but I’m not getting carried away by a stodgy 2-0 win v opponents ranked 182 in the world.

Gilmour was pretty average, and that was against dross.

JimBHibees
13-11-2021, 01:02 PM
He's suspended for the Denmark game.

That's the worry for the next game, we have so many players one booking away from a suspension, and they carry over into the play-offs.

Do they carry over to play offs that makes no sense?

JimBHibees
13-11-2021, 01:15 PM
Yes, just as well the Moldvans didn’t take one of their chances, it could have ended up a real embarrassment.

What made it dire for me was the risk averse back and sideways passing, particularly from our midfielders. I can understand that seeing out the game with ten minutes to go, not as a matter of routine approach. There was a fair bit of fairly aimless launching it into the channels going on too.

Maybe an early goal would have changed the pattern of the game, as it was we huffed and puffed and were lucky the Moldovans didn’t score with a couple of great opportunities. On that note well done to Craig Gordon, he had a great game ( something we really shouldn’t be saying when talking about a game v Moldova)..

Patterson is currently nowhere near good enough for the English top flight, Gerrard will know that fine well, that’s why he’s second choice right back at the Hun.

No way on earth was last night dire. Another day we are winning 4 or 5 with two excellent goals

PatHead
13-11-2021, 01:25 PM
Do they carry over to play offs that makes no sense?

Yes. 8 players, SJM is one of them.

JimBHibees
13-11-2021, 01:30 PM
Yes. 8 players, SJM is one of them.

That seems ridiculous to go into play offs that two yellows gets a ban after 10 games or so.

plhibs
13-11-2021, 02:00 PM
That seems ridiculous to go into play offs that two yellows gets a ban after 10 games or so.
It seems daft that 5 groups have 6 teams so are playing 2 more games than the other groups. I would have thought that if the results against the bottom team are not counted then neither should yellow cards in these games.IMO

Smartie
13-11-2021, 03:39 PM
I agree, the way he finished the chance showed a lot of skill and character. That said, I was genuinely thinking he was out of his depth prior to that. I dread to think how he would play against a decent left winger, I suppose we’ll find out v Denmark.

At the moment Patterson sits alongside Doig, it’s just that the absolute dearth of quality in the right wing back role has thrust him onto the international stage sooner. Both are talented and have the physical attributes to succeed at a higher level the the SPFL.

My main concern is the central midfield. McGinn carried a lot of his colleagues in there. Gilmour didn’t make much of an impression and McGregor and Armstrong lacked dynamism.

A point v Denmark would be a huge morale booster. They are pretty decent, but they’re not untouchable. A positive approach needed. Let’s hope Clarke send them out to take the game to them, work them hard and press intensely. Hampden will be jumping, let’s GIRFUT.

It’s funny how folk see things differently - I really like that midfield. They do different roles and complement each other really well. Gilmour and McGregor are excellent water carriers and aren’t afraid to go back or sideways if the need arises. Sometimes patience is required. They’re good at wanting to get on the ball from defenders and do what needs done next. The fact that they provide that platform means that we can utilise McGinn’s energy further up the park.

I like that Clarke has finally found a way to turn a mixture of limited players and out of position players into a stingier back line.


My main criticisms would be the lack of quality we have up front. If we had a top class striker we’d actually have a team that could look good.

That plus the fact that Craig Gordon is performing but getting on a bit. There’s not much in reserve there and he’s made some pretty solid contributions in recent games. If he decides to call it a day any time soon then we might be a good bit weaker in a key position.

Hiber-nation
13-11-2021, 06:40 PM
No way on earth was last night dire. Another day we are winning 4 or 5 with two excellent goals

Yep, really good last night especially with all these players out, forget how poor Moldova were, we always struggle away against opposition like that.

As for Gilmour he wasn't great in the first half but excellent in the 2nd and I'm amazed how anyone could criticise his performance, he's as comfortable on the ball as any Scotland player from the last God knows how many years. This is international football and possession is key, it's something we haven't enjoyed much of over the years and it's cost us dear.

We are getting there but we'll always fall short without a top level striker.