Games called off - Ross County & Livi now postponed

[Radium]

Good to get some of the detail and to be honest totally agree with Hibs that they should be angry given they were trying to control the outbreak at the same time getting harassed into playing a game a few days after travelling for hours to the same venue. Spfl were a joke in this instance.

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[Heisenberg]

Good stuff from Kensell.

https://bit.ly/3q4fRBw

[Mikey_1875]

Good stuff from Kensell.

https://bit.ly/3q4fRBw

Speaks a lot of sense and provides a robust defence of the club and it’s procedures. Sadly it’ll probably be overshadowed by the blue half of Glasgow comment and the rags will try and build up some sort of public spat between Hibs and the “furious whistleblower”/Rangers

[green day]

Good stuff from Kensell.

https://bit.ly/3q4fRBw

Nice one. The Huns will be apoplectic.

Good

[JohnM1875]

Good stuff from Kensell.

https://bit.ly/3q4fRBw

Okay, I like this guy.

[Kato]

Go on, Ben. Like him already.

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[greenlex]

Many years ago the late John Fairgrieve (a Jambo but good journalist) commented that when it came to getting favours from the SFA or referees Rangers came first, Celtic second, and nobody third.

Knew John well. A good guy as well as a good journalist. He could however cause a fight in an empty hoose. In fact he loved doing just that and then stand back and watch the fallout with a glint in his eye.

[Since452]

Yeees Ben. Superb.

[Iggy Pope]

Good stuff from Kensell.

https://bit.ly/3q4fRBw

Hey, Billy Whizz, what do ya make of “Uncle Ben” here then? :greengrin

[Iggy Pope]

Knew John well. A good guy as well as a good journalist. He could however cause a fight in an empty hoose. In fact he loved doing just that and then stand back and watch the fallout with a glint in his eye.

Long remember his article suggesting that Tynecastle should be “turned into a Car Park” after a cup defeat to Forfar, he had campaigned for a long time about the malaise under Bobby Parker IIRC.
Wish I still had it. He started a rammy with that one at the time.

[A Hi-Bee]

Speaks a lot of sense and provides a robust defence of the club and it’s procedures. Sadly it’ll probably be overshadowed by the blue half of Glasgow comment and the rags will try and build up some sort of public spat between Hibs and the “furious whistleblower”/Rangers

Very well said Ben, who cares what the blue half may think, this is not about what they may think, this is a Hibs safety issue and Hibs have gone about the business in a very professional manner so to hell with the blue half and the small minded whistle blower if he even was. the safety of the players and staff must take priority over small mindedness.
:flag::flag::flag:

[007]

Hey, Billy Whizz, what do ya make of “Uncle Ben” here then? :greengrin

Ben kens all

[lyonhibs]

Hope the Sticky Bun whistle blower sees this.

Girfuy

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Just catching up here, taking the lazy as **** option. What was the contents of the whistle blowers accusations? Just seen a clip from our new CEO mentioning it, but totally in the dark as to who, what, where, when etc.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

So was the whistle blower a penny-whistle blower or was did he play the flute?

Can go one of two ways - take the focus off the players and on to him or the whistle-blower or incur the wrath of the hoardes - or both.

[Stuart93]

Kick on Ben

[The Veteran]

Kensell seems a good egg.

[Radium]

Full 35 minute Zoom call on HibsTV

… with the obligatory ‘can everyone make sure that they are on mute’


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[greenlex]

Long remember his article suggesting that Tynecastle should be “turned into a Car Park” after a cup defeat to Forfar, he had campaigned for a long time about the malaise under Bobby Parker IIRC.
Wish I still had it. He started a rammy with that one at the time.

I remember him getting all apathetic about the America’s Cup. He described it as a posh sailing race that nobody could really get excited about. He wrote in his column he could generate more excitement running a pontoon sweep between Newtongrange Star and Gorebridge Bowling club.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Ben kens all

the Scottish clairvoyant and his Wife - Patsy Kensit.

[Heisenberg]

So was the whistle blower a penny-whistle blower or was did he play the flute?

Can go one of two ways - take the focus off the players and on to him or the whistle-blower or incur the wrath of the hoardes - or both.

The West of Scotland football supporters seem to be absolutely raging. Sensational job by Uncle Ben.

[KdyHby]

Nice one. The Huns will be apoplectic.

Good

It's not like them to grass.......

[Keith_M]

Yip. For once I agree with Hibs. :greengrin


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[Hannah_hfc]

Will not be surprised if blue side of Glasgow release a full battle cry statement after this.


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[Hibs90]

Ben telling it like it is and he’s got their blood boiling. 😂

[Stuart93]

Will not be surprised if blue side of Glasgow release a full battle cry statement after this.


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Aw that’s an absolute NAP

[poolman]

It boils my blood that nearly 300 more people died on these islands in the last 24hrs and the blonde bombsite is wittering on about how it’s fine for him to not wear a mask next to a 95 year old man and his party pretends it’s all over.

They don’t give a **** and thousands more are going to die because of it. The Tories are worse than ****.


Let your blood boil away, get yourself on another type of message board for that nonsense

[Glory Lurker]

Is Ben saying the accusation is false? I can't work out from that article.

[poolman]

Can you honestly blame him, regardless of who he supports? If I walked into a hotel bar and saw Rangers, Hearts or Celtc players blatantly not observing the rules, you can be damned sure I'd be reporting them too.

Focus on that if you wish, but if there were a bunch of players not adhering to the guidelines and they've subsequently caught Covid resulting in the current ****-show, you're angry in the wrong place IMO.

Go ahead, jump in with both feet without knowing the facts ,gaun yersel 🙄

[wookie70]

Is Ben saying the accusation is false? I can't work out from that article.

I'm the same. It was this part that confused me “I’m disappointed that either the things the people are saying are substantiated, or disappointed that our players didn’t keep our masks on."

[007]

the Scottish clairvoyant and his Wife - Patsy Kensit.

😀👍

[PatHead]

Just catching up here, taking the lazy as **** option. What was the contents of the whistle blowers accusations? Just seen a clip from our new CEO mentioning it, but totally in the dark as to who, what, where, when etc.

Some Hun sympathiser claimed that he was staying in the same hotel as us and saw players not following protocol. He was so upset he contacted the Daily Record and SFA or spfl.

Needless to say all the papers printed the accusations. No pictures or comments from the hotel.

[O'Rourke3]

Would tend to disagree with that.

Bet the SPFL will ram the fixtures in for November & December. There are a couple of midweek dates that are possible.

Cannot see them being delayed until next year. The transfer window opens again in January and the SPFL will demand that the games are played before then.Why. All sides have the abilty to refresh.

The Dec dates look more likely though so we are playing two games a week on the run to Christmas. Feels like this happens every year.

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[90274]

Hibs want you to pay to watch a Press Conference from the CEO?

Anyone know what Ben had to say?

[Tarrahib]

Hibs want you to pay to watch a Press Conference from the CEO?

Anyone know what Ben had to say?
You can watch it for free on Hibs tv.

[SMAXXA]

Full 35 minute Zoom call on HibsTV

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Watched the full interview and was really impressed with his calm articulate approach and how transparent he was.

The real question I have for anyone whos watched the interview who was the guy sitting in a dark room who kept on coming up on the screen clearly not putting himself on mute 😂. What media outlet was he representing?

[JoeT_WasTheBest]

Watched the full interview and was really impressed with his calm articulate approach and how transparent he was.

The real question I have for anyone whos watched the interview who was the guy sitting in a dark room who kept on coming up on the screen clearly not putting himself on mute [emoji23]. What media outlet was he representing?

No idea who he was! I was hoping he’d ask a question so we would have a better idea, but he obviously didn’t have the brains to actually do that [emoji23]

Agree Ben came across well. They’ll focus in on his comments about the whistleblower, but it was nice to hear us bite back at the media after 2016 and all that.

[dp00]

Good interview , sounds like Nisbet ain’t affected and sounds like Boyle isn’t affected but is a close contact (prob backed up by fact Mrs Boyle played for the ladies tonight)

Hopefully these guys can get away on international duty get some fitness/games and the others aren’t to badly effected either and we will be ready for rangers


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[18Craig75]

Good interview , sounds like Nisbet ain’t affected and sounds like Boyle isn’t affected but is a close contact (prob backed up by fact Mrs Boyle played for the ladies tonight)

Hopefully these guys can get away on international duty get some fitness/games and the others aren’t to badly effected either and we will be ready for rangers


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The Boyle one I found a bit strange…sounds like he needs to isolate for the full period which might make him miss the start of the camp? Which would mean he’s not double vaxxed. I wonder if Australia would bother to fly him all the way out there if it wasn’t for the whole camp.

Selfishly, would prefer if he stayed here!!

[Steven79]

The game against County will now be the Wednesday after the semi final against Rangers...

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/dates-confirmed-for-ross-county-livingston

[SHODAN]

Far more sensible dates.

[ancient hibee]

The Boyle one I found a bit strange…sounds like he needs to isolate for the full period which might make him miss the start of the camp? Which would mean he’s not double vaxxed. I wonder if Australia would bother to fly him all the way out there if it wasn’t for the whole camp.

Selfishly, would prefer if he stayed here!!

I think the Boyle situation depends on the Australian rules for elite sportsmen/women as the country starts to open up.

[CMurdoch]

I think the Boyle situation depends on the Australian rules for elite sportsmen/women as the country starts to open up.

Fingers crossed he has to stay home.
We have 12 matches in 43 days starting with the Rangers semi final
3 games at the end of November followed by
8 games in December
and culminating with the Derby on the 3rd January.
Hopefully Magennis, Doidge, Hallberg and Mackay are back to bolster the numbers.

[Kojock]

Far more sensible dates.

Yep 8 games in December is far more sensible.

[Steven79]

Yep 8 games in December is far more sensible.

Not only for the players but they must think fans are made of money in December!

Good job it's a month when we don't have much else on...

[007]

12 games in 44 days is going to be a challenge.

[Billy Whizz]

12 games in 44 days is going to be a challenge.

For the wallet as well

[SteveHFC]

For the wallet as well

Ross County, St.Johnstone, Livingston, St.Mirren, Dundee United and Celtic away games coming up after the semi final to end of year.

[Billy Whizz]

Ross County, St.Johnstone, Livingston, St.Mirren, Dundee United and Celtic away games coming up after the semi final to end of year.

That will be almost £200 including the semi final, in tickets alone

[Allant1981]

That will be almost £200 including the semi final, in tickets alone

But if you had planned to go to all those games anyway you wont be any worse off

[Greenbeard]

Fingers crossed he has to stay home.
We have 12 matches in 43 days starting with the Rangers semi final
3 games at the end of November followed by
8 games in December
and culminating with the Derby on the 3rd January.
Hopefully Magennis, Doidge, Hallberg and Mackay are back to bolster the numbers.
Makes a mockery of all the chat about player welfare in the modern game.

[MWHIBBIES]

Makes a mockery of all the chat about player welfare in the modern game.

Well, tbf, its only players and managers who actually talk about that. Governing bodies don't give a ****.

[gbhibby]

Thought it was funny that Ben mentioned that the whistle-blower was from the blue side. We all know that they all know how to blow their whistles loudly at certain times of the year. 😁
Their club will probably LODGE a complaint.

[Billy Whizz]

But if you had planned to go to all those games anyway you wont be any worse off

Fair enough, but it’s still a lot of money at this time of year

[davhibby]

The Boyle one I found a bit strange…sounds like he needs to isolate for the full period which might make him miss the start of the camp? Which would mean he’s not double vaxxed. I wonder if Australia would bother to fly him all the way out there if it wasn’t for the whole camp.

Selfishly, would prefer if he stayed here!!

I’d be surprised if he was going to be allowed in to Australia if he wasn’t. Is it possible that Australia aren’t happy with the testing to avoid isolation when vaccinated rule here?

[Itsnoteasy]

I’d be surprised if he was going to be allowed in to Australia if he wasn’t. Is it possible that Australia aren’t happy with the testing to avoid isolation when vaccinated rule here?

Djokovic currently not allowed to play in Australian Open in January due to not being jabbed.

[Sir David Gray]

Djokovic currently not allowed to play in Australian Open in January due to not being jabbed.

He is allowed.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/59037620.amp

[Forza Fred]

Djokovic currently not allowed to play in Australian Open in January due to not being jabbed.

True, but Slight clarification.

He isn’t allowed to play in the Open because the Victorian government have mandated that only vaccinated players, officials, ball bots etc will be allowed in the Melbourne arena.

Not exactly sure what the travel restrictions are, as they seem to change daily.

[Forza Fred]

Djokovic currently not allowed to play in Australian Open in January due to not being jabbed.

Aware of that report, but…..

See my post above….Victoria says he can’t…..bit of political argument involved…and while the Feds control who can fly in and out, it’s the State Premiers who control the stadiums, and so far Victoria have held a hard line and said no jab, no play!

[JimBHibees]

Aware of that report, but…..

See my post above….Victoria says he can’t…..bit of political argument involved…and while the Feds control who can fly in and out, it’s the State Premiers who control the stadiums, and so far Victoria have held a hard line and said no jab, no play!

I thought they had changed that stance as per SDGs post. Personally I agree with them.

[Forza Fred]

I thought they had changed that stance as per SDGs post. Personally I agree with them.

The Feds have I think, but last week as I say the Victorian Premier was still adamant no jab no play...and while the Feds control who can and can't come in to the country...its the states who set the rules in regard to what they allow in their state.

Mind you they can changed their minds at the wave of a brown paper envelope on any given day

The tennis player in question is still non commital as to whether he will come out.

The News tonight said there was a 'slight doubt' about Boyler's availability due to being a close contact, but on the same bulletin Aussie coach Graham Arnold very much played that down and said he was confident Martin would be here.

[007]

Malky Mackay not just ignorant about racism.

Ignorant in general. He can't understand why they had to forfeit a League Cup game and why we are allowed to reschedule. He acknowledges different competitions so different rules so he's a bit daft complaining now. It's fairly obvious the League Cup was operating on a tight timescale to fit all the group stage matches in hence the rule re forfeiting.

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/malky-mackay-queries-hibs-covid-22074326

[Moulin Yarns]

Malky Mackay not just ignorant about racism.

Ignorant in general. He can't understand why they had to forfeit a League Cup game and why we are allowed to reschedule. He acknowledges different competitions so different rules so he's a bit daft complaining now. It's fairly obvious the League Cup was operating on a tight timescale to fit all the group stage matches in hence the rule re forfeiting.

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/malky-mackay-queries-hibs-covid-22074326

Compare that to what Jim Goodwin said. We all have to learn from the situation at hibs.

[1875Sean]

The Boyle one I found a bit strange…sounds like he needs to isolate for the full period which might make him miss the start of the camp? Which would mean he’s not double vaxxed. I wonder if Australia would bother to fly him all the way out there if it wasn’t for the whole camp.

Selfishly, would prefer if he stayed here!!

The oz manager Graham Arnold’ said Boyle is double vaccinate, maybe he has tested positive rather than a close contact

[Danderhall Hibs]

But if you had planned to go to all those games anyway you wont be any worse off

It’s a lot in the one month - folk will have budgeted for a more even spread of games/money.

Ridiculous to have this many games in a short time - we’ll get to February and March and have loads of spare midweeks.

[Ronniekirk]

It’s a lot in the one month - folk will have budgeted for a more even spread of games/money.

Ridiculous to have this many games in a short time - we’ll get to February and March and have loads of spare midweeks.

Especially in the lead up to X mass


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[Wheat Hound]

Any word on when we can buy Ross County away tickets again?

[Allant1981]

It’s a lot in the one month - folk will have budgeted for a more even spread of games/money.

Ridiculous to have this many games in a short time - we’ll get to February and March and have loads of spare midweeks.


Of course its a lot of games but again if you had planned to go to them all then keep aside the money from the cancelled games and you are no worse off in the lead up to the other games, the other games havent been changed so your budget is still the same

[Danderhall Hibs]

Of course its a lot of games but again if you had planned to go to them all then keep aside the money from the cancelled games and you are no worse off in the lead up to the other games, the other games havent been changed so your budget is still the same

Yeah that’s a fair point.

[B.H.F.C]

Of course its a lot of games but again if you had planned to go to them all then keep aside the money from the cancelled games and you are no worse off in the lead up to the other games, the other games havent been changed so your budget is still the same

I’ll be worse off. Like plenty others, already incurred travel costs last week. Then I’ll have a five year old to entertain tomorrow (instead of being at Livi) with the cost of going to Livi and further costs of going to Ross County still to come.

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

I like going to games in December, especially around the Christmas period, but I'd be more concerned about the effects on our squad with so many games in such a small window of time. We're struggling as it is with injuries, form and now players returning from covid without having to play 9 games in little over a month.

If we're anywhere near top 6 by the time the winter break comes round on January 3rd I'd be delighted. Everything seems to be conspiring against us at the moment.

[Forza Fred]

The oz manager Graham Arnold’ said Boyle is double vaccinate, maybe he has tested positive rather than a close contact

New South Wales government rules are that if you have been in contact with an infected person 10 days or less before, you should not travel to Sydney.

Unless Martin gets an exception….which I hope he does….he won’t be travelling.

[hibbydog]

Compare that to what Jim Goodwin said. We all have to learn from the situation at hibs.

Could not stand him as a player but I’ve changed my mind since he became a manager.

Strikes me as a really decent bloke to be honest

[Allant1981]

I’ll be worse off. Like plenty others, already incurred travel costs last week. Then I’ll have a five year old to entertain tomorrow (instead of being at Livi) with the cost of going to Livi and further costs of going to Ross County still to come.

Yeah cause you have to spend money to keep kids entertained, travel cost ill give you

[Wheat Hound]

Anyone else bought a ticket from Ross County direct but then not received their e-ticket?

[B.H.F.C]

A five year old to entertain? What is he, Little Lord Fontleroy?


Take him to the park, teach him how to throw stones at the ducks, buy him a Happy Meal at McD's and let him pick his nose in the back of the car on the way home.

If it was good enough for my kids, it's good enough for yours!

Na he’s just a normal 5 year old. Who does normal 5 year old things. Some of which will probably cost me a few quid here and there. Not a problem really, just pointing out that it’s not as black and white as keeping the money aside you’d have budgeted for an away game unless you plan to sit in the house doing nothing when you’d be at that game. Thanks for the parenting tips but you can bolt with a stupid post like that.

[Phil MaGlass]

as I have said on another thread, I do not understand why any postponed games cant be played in the winter break, adequate time, no need for any teams to be playing 8 games in a couple of weeks. This will only contribute to less fans and more injuries at a time of year fans are needing their cash for xmas etc.....

[cabbageandribs1875]

New South Wales government rules are that if you have been in contact with an infected person 10 days or less before, you should not travel to Sydney.

Unless Martin gets an exception….which I hope he does….he won’t be travelling.



fine for the next two Oz internationals but there's two games on 27th Jan and 1st Feb and i think he will probably miss games for Hibs

26th jan- away to Motherwell
and
29th jan- home to Livingston

[CropleyWasGod]

as I have said on another thread, I do not understand why any postponed games cant be played in the winter break, adequate time, no need for any teams to be playing 8 games in a couple of weeks. This will only contribute to less fans and more injuries at a time of year fans are needing their cash for xmas etc.....

AIUI, they have to be played (if possible) before the January transfer window opens. That avoids any perceived unfairness in clubs playing rearranged games with squads that are different from what they would have been for the original game. Sporting integrity, as Rod once said. :greengrin

[Danderhall Hibs]

AIUI, they have to be played (if possible) before the January transfer window opens. That avoids any perceived unfairness in clubs playing rearranged games with squads that are different from what they would have been for the original game. Sporting integrity, as Rod once said. :greengrin

What happens to games called off on Boxing Day?

[CropleyWasGod]

What happens to games called off on Boxing Day?

Shhh with your rational arguments. :greengrin


(I did say "if possible".....)

[Danderhall Hibs]

Shhh with your rational arguments. :greengrin


(I did say "if possible".....)

I noted the “if possible” but it kind of falls over on the sporting integrity front for games from about 18/12.

[CropleyWasGod]

I noted the “if possible” but it kind of falls over on the sporting integrity front for games from about 18/12.

Of course, but by having the intention to have them played by a certain date, it at least reduces the chances of the "unfairness" accusation.

I'm not sticking up for the SPFL here, by the way; the glut of games is daft. But just trying to put over their reasoning.

[Phil MaGlass]

Thanks for the replies :aok:

[Danderhall Hibs]

Of course, but by having the intention to have them played by a certain date, it at least reduces the chances of the "unfairness" accusation.

I'm not sticking up for the SPFL here, by the way; the glut of games is daft. But just trying to put over their reasoning.

It’s madness - they concern themselves with this but playing some teams 3 times at home or away in a season is ok. Or having some teams playing many more games than the others in a short period of time is fine.

[PatHead]

It’s madness - they concern themselves with this but playing some teams 3 times at home or away in a season is ok. Or having some teams playing many more games than the others in a short period of time is fine.

While players are still possibly recovering from the long term effects of Covid.

[Blaster]

Thanks for the replies :aok:

Probably need to factor in that this could happen again to other teams so although there maybe free midweek dates currently in February or March, they may be required as contingency

[Alfred E Newman]

Could not stand him as a player but I’ve changed my mind since he became a manager.

Strikes me as a really decent bloke to be honest

:agree:

[Keith_M]

Na he’s just a normal 5 year old. Who does normal 5 year old things. Some of which will probably cost me a few quid here and there. Not a problem really, just pointing out that it’s not as black and white as keeping the money aside you’d have budgeted for an away game unless you plan to sit in the house doing nothing when you’d be at that game. Thanks for the parenting tips but you can bolt with a stupid post like that.


I realise humour is subjective (especially my often poor attempts), but I honestly didn't imagine for a minute that you'd think a comment suggesting you get your kid to throw stones at ducks and pick his nose would be taken seriously.

[CMurdoch]

28 days between the 21st November and the 18th December.
In that 4 week period Hibs play 9 games!
It includes 3 times where we play on a Wednesday night followed by a 3pm kick off on the Saturday which is less than 3 complete days between games.
All in all a brutal schedule.

[Keith_M]

28 days between the 21st November and the 18th December.
In that 4 week period Hibs play 9 games!
It includes 3 times where we play on a Wednesday night followed by a 3pm kick off on the Saturday which is less than 3 complete days between games.
All in all a brutal schedule.



Yeah, it is.

It's bad enough for the players and the fans are going to have a really busy time of it.

It's great for me, having so many games to go to, but it's not ideal for folk preparing for Christmas, having work nights out and stuff.

[CMurdoch]

Yeah, it is.

It's bad enough for the players and the fans are going to have a really busy time of it.

It's great for me, having so many games to go to, but it's not ideal for folk preparing for Christmas, having work nights out and stuff.

it's a tough job but someones got to do it.
As for Christmas, folk don't half get their knickers in a twist about it every year.

[Glory Lurker]

I do wonder if we've only got ourselves to blame. No other team has managed to get in to a mess like this.

[Libby Hibby]

I do wonder if we've only got ourselves to blame. No other team has managed to get in to a mess like this.

Really? I know what your trying to say but I don’t think there is anyone to blame in a middle of a global pandemic.

[B.H.F.C]

I do wonder if we've only got ourselves to blame. No other team has managed to get in to a mess like this.

It’s a perfect storm at the moment.

The disaster we had in the summer (which was entirely self inflicted) has just been compounded by the Covid situation (which I don’t think can be helped, could happen to anyone and we won’t be the last to be severely hit).

We were in a bit of bother before Covid hit so when we come back, I hope we’re not feeling sorry for ourselves thinking everything is down to Covid and that we’re ready to show a bit fight.

[Glory Lurker]

Really? I know what your trying to say but I don’t think there is anyone to blame in a middle of a global pandemic.

No other team has suffered like this since vaccines arrived. Have our protocols, or the players' compliance with them, been sufficient?

[Smartie]

No other team has suffered like this since vaccines arrived. Have our protocols, or the players' compliance with them, been sufficient?

None of us can say for sure.

The protocols aren’t as tight as they have been in the past though and my opinion is that Hibs have been unlucky - the first club of the winter to be hit with an outbreak of this kind.

I’d be amazed if we’re the last.

Our situation might even spark a change in protocol for everyone somewhere down the line as it’s far from being an ideal situation.

I say that - we were minging for a few weeks leading up to the enforced rest and still had a few games to play there before we got some injured players back. It might yet end up being a blessing in disguise.

[B.H.F.C]

No other team has suffered like this since vaccines arrived. Have our protocols, or the players' compliance with them, been sufficient?

Ross County got hammered with it in the summer.

We won’t be the last.

[JimBHibees]

Really? I know what your trying to say but I don’t think there is anyone to blame in a middle of a global pandemic.

I suppose the only argument against that would be if a number of players chose not to vaccinate meaning they have have been more vulnerable to catch it than if they had. No idea if that is the case and would be disappointed if it was.