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What’s going on with him ? Not interested , slow , waste of a jersey atm
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Northernhibee
27-10-2021, 08:41 PM
Awful attitude from earlier years rearing it’s head again.
Nicho87
27-10-2021, 08:42 PM
Over rated and believed his hype.
I’d start Gullan through the middle for the next three matches he deserves a chance.
Perfect Hatrick
27-10-2021, 08:42 PM
Couldn’t care less if I never seen him play for Hibs again.
His attitude is a ****ing disgrace.
King conrad
27-10-2021, 08:42 PM
What’s going on with him ? Not interested , slow , waste of a jersey atm
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Hard work gets you through bad form and he isn't working hard enough
Joe6-2
27-10-2021, 08:42 PM
Couldn’t care less if I never seen him play for Hibs again.
His attitude is a ****ing disgrace.
This, not interested in Hibs
Jones28
27-10-2021, 08:43 PM
Yepp. Doing himself out of a move with his disinterest.
CMac1988
27-10-2021, 08:43 PM
Terrible attitude. Needs dropped irrespective of who's available. Gullan not scoring will bring more to the team than Nisbet not scoring.
kaimendhibs
27-10-2021, 08:44 PM
Waste of a jersey
Fergos
27-10-2021, 08:45 PM
His role in their third was pitiful. Talents nothing without hard work.
GGTTH
CL0762
27-10-2021, 08:45 PM
I’ve never hated a Hibs player before but he’s becoming incredibly close to it. Embarrassing for a professional footballer to apply himself as little as he does.
Unseen work
27-10-2021, 08:45 PM
He’s truly pathetic.
I’ve never seen a player Chuck it as much as he has. He’s way worse than Kamberi ever was with his attitude.
He doesn’t sprint, he’s weak, he has no aggression and he doesn’t help his team mates.
If he gets a chance he might score, but you never know as he doesn’t bother to get in a position he’ll score one.
County is a huge game on Saturday for Ross and Hibs and if he had any options other than Gullan I think he’d drop him. He 1000% deserves to be dropped so if he happy to see him dropped.
Happy to see Gullan or even Boyle go up top on Saturday.
hibee_girl
27-10-2021, 08:46 PM
He was awful tonight. Worst we’ve seen from him
18Craig75
27-10-2021, 08:46 PM
Disgrace. He’s got al the ability, and I’ve defended him a lot, but his attitude is a disgrace.
He had it all there for the taking, he’s probably blown his international chances as well. Waste of space.
Smartie
27-10-2021, 08:47 PM
Nisbet and the man who keeps picking him to play a role he clearly can't play need to take a long, hard look at themselves.
No idea what has happened to Nisbet since the Motherwell game, when he looked quite lively.
Other than that he has been abysmal all season.
Perfect Hatrick
27-10-2021, 08:47 PM
He’s truly pathetic.
I’ve never seen a player Chuck it as much as he has. He’s way worse than Kamberi ever was with his attitude.
He doesn’t sprint, he’s weak, he has no aggression and he doesn’t help his team mates.
If he gets a chance he might score, but you never know as he doesn’t bother to get in a position he’ll score one.
County is a huge game on Saturday for Ross and Hibs and if he had any options other than Gullan I think he’d drop him. He 1000% deserves to be dropped so if he happy to see him dropped.
Happy to see Gullan or even Boyle go up top on Saturday.
I compared him to Kamberi recently but I’d agree. His attitude is ten times worse.
Would love to see his stats for running ? In fact for even moving
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With Watt, Brophy etc scoring regularly surely his Scotland place is in jeopardy with this lack lustre spell he's in?
Once that goes he's in Mark McNulty territory where no higher ranked team will want him, if he's in a huff about not getting a move he is an absolute rocket as he's costing his future earnings a packet with this form.
When he was scoring goals his lack of technique or work rate wouldn't have especially worried a bottom of the league English team looking for goals to save them but there's no team in the land who's going to pay a fee and big wages for him currently.
Been awful for a long time, ever since he never got his January move.
Joe6-2
27-10-2021, 08:52 PM
He really has to be dropped, no matter who comes in, he’s a complete waste of the jersey.
Ross needs to take action and Nisbet’s recent contributions, or lack off!
madhatter
27-10-2021, 08:54 PM
He's done. Needs sold.
Smartie
27-10-2021, 08:55 PM
I compared him to Kamberi recently but I’d agree. His attitude is ten times worse.
It was often hard to make out who was most culpable between Kamberi and Lennon at Hibs. They clearly didn't get on, Lennon clearly didn't have what it took to get the best out of Kamberi and Kamberi later proved himself to be total bell end.
Is there a Jack Ross angle here? Nisbet has a cracking historical scoring record, he's in the Scotland squad. What is he playing at? If he wants a move, he doesn't get one like this.
It doesn't add up to me.
Alfred E Newman
27-10-2021, 08:55 PM
I’ve never hated a Hibs player before but he’s becoming incredibly close to it. Embarrassing for a professional footballer to apply himself as little as he does.
That’s a bit extreme.
NC1875
27-10-2021, 08:56 PM
Thinks he’s better than he is. Kamberi mark 2 as someone said earlier
JohnM1875
27-10-2021, 08:57 PM
I generally hate sagging off Hibs players and give them the benefit of the doubt. But he's nowhere near good enough to be starting for us just now.
Gullan has to start the next few games. At the very least Gullan puts a shift in. I lost count of the amount of times Nisbet is shouting and moaning at team mates whilst doing the square route of **** all himself.
Fuming at him.
Andy74
27-10-2021, 08:58 PM
I’m hoping he’s playing through an injury otherwise his contribution just now is pretty pathetic.
He really has to be dropped, no matter who comes in, he’s a complete waste of the jersey.
Ross needs to take action and Nisbet’s recent contributions, or lack off!
I think both Nisbet and Jack Ross have been in the huff, I think Ross is picking him to prove we needed cover for the inevitable injury that ended up being Doidge.
Now Ross is right, we should have had cover, but anyone can see that Nisbet needs dropping (possibly rested but I doubt that's the reason) we've lost 4 straight games so I'm intrigued as to what worse could have happened if he took decisive action and showed Nisbet who's in charge.
He might have snapped out of it by now and stopped this ridiculous slump of results.
Biggest shame of all is that it was Doidge who got injured, he would have been giving 100% even if he sometimes misses easy chances, far rather him than a prima, donna
SteveHFC
27-10-2021, 09:00 PM
If we get money in January for him. We should accept 👍
Unseen work
27-10-2021, 09:01 PM
I think both Nisbet and Jack Ross have been in the huff, I think Ross is picking him to prove we needed cover for the inevitable injury that ended up being Doidge.
Now Ross is right, we should have had cover, but anyone can see that Nisbet needs dropping (possibly rested but I doubt that's the reason) we've lost 4 straight games so I'm intrigued as to what worse could have happened if he took decisive action and showed Nisbet who's in charge.
He might have snapped out of it by now and stopped this ridiculous slump of results.
Biggest shame of all is that it was Doidge who got injured, he would have been giving 100% even if he sometimes misses easy chances, far rather him than a prima, donna
I don’t think that’s why Ross is playing him.
I think Ross is just placing a hell of a lot of faith in him and hoping he scores a goal or makes a meaningful contribution.
He’ll have confidence he’ll score when he gets a chance that he won’t have in Gullan.
I don’t think that’s why Ross is playing him.
I think Ross is just placing a hell of a lot of faith in him and hoping he scores a goal or makes a meaningful contribution.
He’ll have confidence he’ll score when he gets a chance that he won’t have in Gullan.
You're probably right but I have absolutely no confidence in him scoring when he gets the ball at the moment. His lack of anticipation is frightening, he was the same vs Moldova and I was a bit embarrassed as a Hibs fan at his performance.
Off pace and poor touch, theres something way off atm
Winston Ingram
27-10-2021, 09:05 PM
If we get money in January for him. We should accept 👍
Who’s going to pay money for a centre forward with a poor work rate, average goal record, terrible attitude that can’t play up front on his own?
Unseen work
27-10-2021, 09:06 PM
His goals to game record since January must be awful?
Start of last season he started off brilliant and ever since he never got a move he’s hardly scored.
You’d be lucky if he’s scored 8 goals in 10 months.
Andy74
27-10-2021, 09:07 PM
I think both Nisbet and Jack Ross have been in the huff, I think Ross is picking him to prove we needed cover for the inevitable injury that ended up being Doidge.
Now Ross is right, we should have had cover, but anyone can see that Nisbet needs dropping (possibly rested but I doubt that's the reason) we've lost 4 straight games so I'm intrigued as to what worse could have happened if he took decisive action and showed Nisbet who's in charge.
He might have snapped out of it by now and stopped this ridiculous slump of results.
Biggest shame of all is that it was Doidge who got injured, he would have been giving 100% even if he sometimes misses easy chances, far rather him than a prima, donna
Im sure Ross is playing him because he is our only fit striker and a current Scotland international. Nisbet should be performing but we’ve basically no other option than to hope he actually justifies his place.
cabbageandribs1875
27-10-2021, 09:07 PM
If we get money in January for him. We should accept 👍
Birmingham were the only club interested last time, i doubt they will be back in for him
18Craig75
27-10-2021, 09:08 PM
Celtics third goal: ball bounces off Nisbet, he then half heartedly jogs back, then half heartedly sticks out a leg, then pulls leg out of a tackle.
So poor.
TheHarpy76
27-10-2021, 09:13 PM
I hope never to see him in a Hibs top again. Punt him in January.
Absolute imposter!
heretoday
27-10-2021, 09:14 PM
Mopes about looking miserable. At least run around a bit!
Pretty Boy
27-10-2021, 09:16 PM
He couldn't lace the boots of a sizeable number of the strikers we have had in the last decade., including his strike partner who is currently injured.
Cash in and get someone who appreciates being here.
Boyle89
27-10-2021, 09:21 PM
The boy got emptied at partick and he admitted to not working hard enough when there. Seemed to screw the nut at raith and the pars and got a great move. Looked so hungry at the start of last season and then all of a sudden it seems as though hes too good for hibs when a bigger club comes sniffing. This is his mentality. I dont think he can change. I hope he scores goals from now till the end of the season and we take whatever we can get. Its not like its a rough patch either. He has been poor since January!
Im sure Ross is playing him because he is our only fit striker and a current Scotland international. Nisbet should be performing but we’ve basically no other option than to hope he actually justifies his place.
Again I probably agree with your view but if Jack Ross thinks he's playing like a Scotland International then he is a fool, he's been nowhere near that level for months, Jamie Gullan would have given more in won tackles and harrying defenders into mistakes at least.
Edit. I do realise you're not saying he's playing like an international just that he is one
ancient hibee
27-10-2021, 09:24 PM
Played the best pass of the night by a Hibs player.
MWHIBBIES
27-10-2021, 09:25 PM
He was terrible tonight. No excuse for it.
hibee
27-10-2021, 09:25 PM
I could accept him not scoring if he was trying but his pathetic jogging around and hiding is a disgrace.
hibeejeebies
27-10-2021, 09:27 PM
Bad run of results at the moment but I don't see the need for the Kevin Nisbet pile on.
He looks low on confidence which is affecting his decision-making. He's far from alone in that respect. To compound matters, we don't have the luxury of taking him out the firing line due to our lack of options in that department. That's our own doing.
I agree he needs to contribute more but words like hate being banded about, comparisons to Florian Kamberi, who showed real contempt for the club, all a bit unnecessary imo.
Perfect Hatrick
27-10-2021, 09:28 PM
His goals to game record since January must be awful?
Start of last season he started off brilliant and ever since he never got a move he’s hardly scored.
You’d be lucky if he’s scored 8 goals in 10 months.
His goals to games ratio in his whole Hibs career isn’t all that exciting. The likes of Malonga had a much better goals record and a lot of Hibs fans didn’t even think of him as an out and our goal scorer. This calendar year has just been even worse than average.
The boy got emptied at partick and he admitted to not working hard enough when there. Seemed to screw the nut at raith and the pars and got a great move. Looked so hungry at the start of last season and then all of a sudden it seems as though hes too good for hibs when a bigger club comes sniffing. This is his mentality. I dont think he can change. I hope he scores goals from now till the end of the season and we take whatever we can get. Its not like its a rough patch either. He has been poor since January!
This is the situation now where as fans we look for strong management but we're a bit different in having experienced the Lennon/Kamberi fallout relatively recently.
There's part of me wants JR to speak strongly about his poor performances but it absolutely never worked with Kamberi and was more probably the catalyst for ending the Great form of that particular group.
Is Nisbet responsible for something similar happening with this one?
madhatter
27-10-2021, 09:29 PM
Bad run of results at the moment but I don't see the need for the Kevin Nisbet pile on.
He looks low on confidence which is affecting his decision-making. He's far from alone in that respect. To compound matters, we don't have the luxury of taking him out the firing line due to our lack of options in that department. That's our own doing.
I agree he needs to contribute more but words like hate being banded about, comparisons to Florian Kamberi, who showed real contempt for the club, all a bit unnecessary imo.
His work rate is Kamberi-esque. Poor touch or bullied off the ball = give up for him. People can forgive poor form, he has given up even trying as far as I can see. He is going through the motions.
Unseen work
27-10-2021, 09:30 PM
Bad run of results at the moment but I don't see the need for the Kevin Nisbet pile on.
He looks low on confidence which is affecting his decision-making. He's far from alone in that respect. To compound matters, we don't have the luxury of taking him out the firing line due to our lack of options in that department. That's our own doing.
I agree he needs to contribute more but words like hate being banded about, comparisons to Florian Kamberi, who showed real contempt for the club, all a bit unnecessary imo.
Take out Kamberi going to Rangers.
When Kamberi was here even he showed a better work rate and desire than that tonight or the previous couple of games.
Nisbet is miles off it and is blatantly not trying. The service is poor granted, but you need to work for your chances too which he’s not doing in the slightest.
Watch back his performances when we first signed him and how hard he worked compared to now. Attitude has flipped.
Onion
27-10-2021, 09:30 PM
Truly awful tonight and for a a few weeks now. His head is not right, attitude stinks.
It's JR's job to sort that out and he's not managed to do that.
skyehibee
27-10-2021, 09:30 PM
Awful like playing with a man short
ancient hibee
27-10-2021, 09:31 PM
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Bad run of results at the moment but I don't see the need for the Kevin Nisbet pile on.
He looks low on confidence which is affecting his decision-making. He's far from alone in that respect. To compound matters, we don't have the luxury of taking him out the firing line due to our lack of options in that department. That's our own doing.
I agree he needs to contribute more but words like hate being banded about, comparisons to Florian Kamberi, who showed real contempt for the club, all a bit unnecessary imo.
Quite agree.
hibee_girl
27-10-2021, 09:32 PM
I could accept him not scoring if he was trying but his pathetic jogging around and hiding is a disgrace.
:agree:
The fastest he moved all night was when he was subbed off
The Captain....
27-10-2021, 09:32 PM
I’m hoping he’s playing through an injury otherwise his contribution just now is pretty pathetic.The injury angle crossed my mind tonight. He doesn't seem to want to sprint, or.make any other quick movement. Its either that or he is bone idle with a **** attitude. Or a mixture of both I suppose.
Either way he's played himself.out of the team. You can't keep playing with as little contribution as he has provided in the last.few.performances.
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Alfred E Newman
27-10-2021, 09:34 PM
Nisbet was very poor but you can’t put all the blame on him for the embarrassing first half an hour when we were fortunate not to be 5 or 6 goals down. We can’t defend straight forward balls into the box, that’s not Nisbets fault.
Perfect Hatrick
27-10-2021, 09:37 PM
:agree:
The fastest he moved all night was when he was subbed off
And even then he stood there for ages pretending he didn’t notice/not even contemplating that he could potentially be coming off!
Hibs90
27-10-2021, 09:39 PM
His first touch is shocking.
Coco Bryce
27-10-2021, 09:40 PM
I've had enough of him. He's just not good enough for Hibs. Slow and uninspiring. File under Shankland.
Boyle89
27-10-2021, 09:42 PM
This is the situation now where as fans we look for strong management but we're a bit different in having experienced the Lennon/Kamberi fallout relatively recently.
There's part of me wants JR to speak strongly about his poor performances but it absolutely never worked with Kamberi and was more probably the catalyst for ending the Great form of that particular group.
Is Nisbet responsible for something similar happening with this one?
I'd 100% accept JR criticising nisbet in pulbic even if it means nisbet copies kamberi. This sort of poor attitude (admittedly my own opinion) cannot be allowed to continue. Either you want to be here and try to perform or you dont. Sadly football seems to be the only industry where poor behaviour/work ethic has no effect on future employment.
hibbydog
27-10-2021, 09:42 PM
Bad run of results at the moment but I don't see the need for the Kevin Nisbet pile on.
He looks low on confidence which is affecting his decision-making. He's far from alone in that respect. To compound matters, we don't have the luxury of taking him out the firing line due to our lack of options in that department. That's our own doing.
I agree he needs to contribute more but words like hate being banded about, comparisons to Florian Kamberi, who showed real contempt for the club, all a bit unnecessary imo.
No effort
Body language is terrible
Can’t be bothered
Huffy wee laddie
Disgrace to be honest. Hope you’re reading this Kev
MrRobot
27-10-2021, 09:45 PM
Complete imposter
A Hi-Bee
27-10-2021, 09:47 PM
Bad run of results at the moment but I don't see the need for the Kevin Nisbet pile on.
He looks low on confidence which is affecting his decision-making. He's far from alone in that respect. To compound matters, we don't have the luxury of taking him out the firing line due to our lack of options in that department. That's our own doing.
I agree he needs to contribute more but words like hate being banded about, comparisons to Florian Kamberi, who showed real contempt for the club, all a bit unnecessary imo.
Agree, while something is not right it is not all down to Kevin Nisbet.
Nicho87
27-10-2021, 09:48 PM
Has he broke sweat in the last 4 games
Genuine question
Coco Bryce
27-10-2021, 09:51 PM
Agree, while something is not right it is not all down to Kevin Nisbet.
Kevin Nisbet's attitude is 100% down to Kevin Nisbet.
Complete waste of a Jersey.
Hiber-nation
27-10-2021, 09:53 PM
I've been patient with him but he was just dreadful tonight bar one great ball to Boyle. Body language all wrong, not "at it".
Allant1981
27-10-2021, 09:53 PM
Every striker goes through a bad patch but its the fact he doesnt even look like he is interested thats the worrying part, that one run he had through the middle in the 2nd half was embarrassing, he looked so slow
A Hi-Bee
27-10-2021, 09:54 PM
Kevin Nisbet's attitude is 100% down to Kevin Nisbet.
Complete waste of a Jersey.
Is it attitude or application or something else that we are all just guessing at, clutching straws that we have all the answers as to what makes a good Hibs team.
JimBHibees
27-10-2021, 09:57 PM
I’m hoping he’s playing through an injury otherwise his contribution just now is pretty pathetic.
Kind of get the impression that may be the case in saying that no excuse for his lack of aggression and non tackle for third goal.
eastmainsmsh
27-10-2021, 09:57 PM
Piss poor off late Kevin Kamberi has went right off it unfortunately
.Sean.
27-10-2021, 09:59 PM
Huffy with a rank rotten attitude and like a man down when it’s no going his way, he looks like he canny be arsed majority of the time, seems disinterested, I get the impression he thinks he’s better than Hibs and the quickest he’s moved in weeks is when he was subbed off.
It’s a shame he’s no half the player he thinks he is
Coco Bryce
27-10-2021, 10:00 PM
Is it attitude or application or something else that we are all just guessing at, clutching straws that we have all the answers as to what makes a good Hibs team.
Guessing? We are witnessing it pal and it stinks.
Bobby's Cinema
27-10-2021, 10:03 PM
Terrible contribution tonight.
Several times a teammate went on the press and he couldn't be arsed going with and closing down the spare man. Several other times he was beaten when closest to the ball and favorite. The fact we persist with him and then bring on a youngster so far down the pecking order to me bordered on a message from JR as if to say this isn't my fault my hands are tied here with options.
B.H.F.C
27-10-2021, 10:09 PM
His attempt at a tackle, after giving it away, in the lead up to the third was absolutely shocking .
Cantona70
27-10-2021, 10:11 PM
Nisbet owes Doidge his caps as simple as that. He’s neither a target man or a poacher but the least you can do is work hard. He doesn’t
jacomo
27-10-2021, 10:14 PM
Bad run of results at the moment but I don't see the need for the Kevin Nisbet pile on.
He looks low on confidence which is affecting his decision-making. He's far from alone in that respect. To compound matters, we don't have the luxury of taking him out the firing line due to our lack of options in that department. That's our own doing.
I agree he needs to contribute more but words like hate being banded about, comparisons to Florian Kamberi, who showed real contempt for the club, all a bit unnecessary imo.
He was very poor though.
If he wants to get to where he thinks he should in the game, he’s gonna have to do a lot, lot better than that.
Mikey_1875
27-10-2021, 10:15 PM
Sick of making excuses for the guy to be honest. I’ve tried to give him the benefit of the doubt with maybe it’s just his style or difficult with one up top but the effort just isn’t there plain and simple.
One good pass to Boyle tonight but he doesn’t even think about troubling defenders or at least making it difficult for them when he isn’t favourite to get there. Stuff that should be there as a bare minimum.
Hiber-nation
27-10-2021, 10:17 PM
Gary Neville was having a go at the Man U strikers the other week. He said that the Man City and Liverpool strikers sprint to to close down and press but the Man U forwards just jog. Nisbet does nothing and that's unacceptable. If the defence and keeper are chucking in goals what hope have you got with the likes of him up front?
jacomo
27-10-2021, 10:18 PM
Played the best pass of the night by a Hibs player.
Indeed. Just about the only thing he did right though.
It made me think - and not for the first time - if he’s getting no joy from being up front on his own, why doesn’t he drop deeper, show for the ball, and try threading passes through for Boyle or Murphy?
Is Jack telling him to stay on the shoulder of the centre backs, no matter what? Or can he not be *rsed?
Perfect Hatrick
27-10-2021, 10:30 PM
Indeed. Just about the only thing he did right though.
It made me think - and not for the first time - if he’s getting no joy from being up front on his own, why doesn’t he drop deeper, show for the ball, and try threading passes through for Boyle or Murphy?
Is Jack telling him to stay on the shoulder of the centre backs, no matter what? Or can he not be *rsed?
I’d wondered what his instructions were as well.
There was a point when Campbell made a run out to the right side for a ball down the line. He was then over on the left wing about 15 seconds later chasing something else down. Nisbet hadn’t moved more than a few feet and watched Campbell go right by him.
I can only presume he’s being told to play like that or if not then Ross should be going ****ing ballistic at him.
Callum_62
27-10-2021, 10:36 PM
Indeed. Just about the only thing he did right though.
It made me think - and not for the first time - if he’s getting no joy from being up front on his own, why doesn’t he drop deeper, show for the ball, and try threading passes through for Boyle or Murphy?
Is Jack telling him to stay on the shoulder of the centre backs, no matter what? Or can he not be *rsed?Based on his role at the 3rd goal I'd suggest it's the can't be arsed option
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Franck Stanton
27-10-2021, 10:37 PM
Don't understand any hibby trying to defend Nisbet. Not just for his performance tonight, he has been the same for weeks now. Compare his recent outings to those of last season & try telling me he is putting the effort in.
No, his lack of performance isn't the reason for our poor recent run but his attitude and lack of effort certainly isn't helping.
Drop him, don't care who for, it would be an improvement.
Sorry Wright ? Thought he did well when he came on.
jeffers
27-10-2021, 10:53 PM
I thought when I first saw him he looked a class act that was going to continue to improve and he was rightly called into the Scotland squad. Now he looks a shadow of that player, for whatever reason. At the moment he should be dropped and made to earn his place back in the side. It’s up to him to prove he’s worth a starting place, he certainly isn’t at present and I’d rather give a totally untried youngster a chance - they genuinely couldn’t offer any less.
Smartie
27-10-2021, 11:06 PM
I think if you take tonight’s team, remove Gogic and Nisbet - you have the solid core upon which to build a decent team.
Pick a formation (I’d normally go 352, it always just seems to me what suits Hibs players to play best) and put in a couple of players, just not that pair.
It’s probably not going to be a top 3 standard team but it’s not going to be dross to rival Butcher’s boys, like we’ve seen in our last 3 games. They should get enough points to be in and about the top 6 though. Gogic and Nisbet have been on a longer decline, the rest of them haven’t turned into bad players overnight.
Then we can get Doidge and Magennis back, bolster properly in January and hopefully we can salvage European qualification from the season.
If anyone fancies giving us money for our international striker, their hand should be bitten off.
Boyle89
27-10-2021, 11:07 PM
I thought when I first saw him he looked a class act that was going to continue to improve and he was rightly called into the Scotland squad. Now he looks a shadow of that player, for whatever reason. At the moment he should be dropped and made to earn his place back in the side. It’s up to him to prove he’s worth a starting place, he certainly isn’t at present and I’d rather give a totally untried youngster a chance - they genuinely couldn’t offer any less.
I echo your thoughts entirely. O'connor, young, gullan, laidlaw. Anyone bar nisbet until her proves he is applying himself.
tonyrougier123
27-10-2021, 11:15 PM
Nisbet needs to have a word with himself about application for the jersey he wears cause he’s selling it short.it’s a pity our attitude as a club towards him wasn’t the same in the previous two transfer windows.no where near good enough at present.
Give me a hard working good all round guy like doidge in the team every day of the week over a sulking striker who needs molly coddled to score goals.
Even the proposed new deal hasn’t been signed,this boy has a clear problem with commitment to Hibernian.
Its the body language that gets me.
I expect him to drop out of the next Scotland squad based on current form.Maybe that will give him the wake up call he needs.
For both him and Hibs.
hibsitis
27-10-2021, 11:31 PM
What does it say about Ross that he can't sort Nisbet's attitude?
SMAXXA
27-10-2021, 11:42 PM
I know for a fact his attitude and laziness isn’t just limited to games. He could do so much more and take care of himself so much better to really reach his potential.
I fear we may have missed the boat cashing in on him as on current form yous struggle to commands 7 figures. Needs to give himself a massive shake.
Weegreenman
28-10-2021, 12:04 AM
Its the body language that gets me.
I expect him to drop out of the next Scotland squad based on current form.Maybe that will give him the wake up call he needs.
For both him and Hibs.
He should be nowhere near a Scotland cap.
NAE NOOKIE
28-10-2021, 12:27 AM
Every striker goes through a bad patch but its the fact he doesnt even look like he is interested thats the worrying part, that one run he had through the middle in the 2nd half was embarrassing, he looked so slow
Yeh, that for me too. He played the ball past the defender and never looked like he could be first to it after that. Last season Nisbet was doing some decent work outside of the box which made him worth having on the pitch even when he wasn't scoring. This season he's utterly anonymous .. whatever the reason for it he needs to sort it and quick, because if he cant I'm with the folk on here saying we might as well replace him with one of the kids who even if they don't have the quality yet might just run their heart out for the team.
Weegreenman
28-10-2021, 12:40 AM
He’s fast turning into another Kamberi. Utterly unacceptable and needs dropped.
HoboHarry
28-10-2021, 12:47 AM
What does it say about Ross that he can't sort Nisbet's attitude?
Nothing. As with all players, their attitude is down to themselves.
jacomo
28-10-2021, 12:49 AM
I know for a fact his attitude and laziness isn’t just limited to games. He could do so much more and take care of himself so much better to really reach his potential.
I fear we may have missed the boat cashing in on him as on current form yous struggle to commands 7 figures. Needs to give himself a massive shake.
If so that’s a great shame.
He spoke convincingly about regretting his lack of application at Patrick Thistle, but maybe he’s just not learned his lesson.
CentreLine
28-10-2021, 12:56 AM
Want to see the side that finished the game last night start on Saturday. The young players put in a good shift second half. They may make mistakes but at least they will give it a go. Nisbet needs to sit in the stand and contemplate what might have been
Baader
28-10-2021, 01:23 AM
Needs dropped regardless of who comes in.
FilipinoHibs
28-10-2021, 01:47 AM
I would play Gary's son ahead of KN.
JammyDoidger
28-10-2021, 01:52 AM
The amount of times balls come into the box and he's standing on his heels is infuriating! A lone striker should attack the front post, it's schoolboy stuff, and if he doesn't even know that then that's frightening. So, so poor!
Squealing pig
28-10-2021, 04:12 AM
Prob get his move to the champ or league 1 in January with any luck in Scotland though on this form
Allant1981
28-10-2021, 05:19 AM
Is he badly out of form or just not actually that good, accept he scored a lot of goals in the first part of last season but since january he has been poor
Since452
28-10-2021, 05:22 AM
Is he badly out of form or just not actually that good, accept he scored a lot of goals in the first part of last season but since january he has been poor
He's miles off where he was last season. He's a good player. If he wasn't that good I could probably accept it more.
Allant1981
28-10-2021, 05:25 AM
He's miles off where he was last season. He's a good player. If he wasn't that good I could probably accept it more.
As i say he is probably just out of form but im struggling to see now what he adds, not seeing him play last year apart from tv has certainly made me think differently about him
18Craig75
28-10-2021, 06:11 AM
I know for a fact his attitude and laziness isn’t just limited to games. He could do so much more and take care of himself so much better to really reach his potential.
I fear we may have missed the boat cashing in on him as on current form yous struggle to commands 7 figures. Needs to give himself a massive shake.
Heard the same. He’s one of the few who doesn’t fo any extra gym work off their own back.
Peevemor
28-10-2021, 06:15 AM
I know for a fact his attitude and laziness isn’t just limited to games. He could do so much more and take care of himself so much better to really reach his potential.
I fear we may have missed the boat cashing in on him as on current form yous struggle to commands 7 figures. Needs to give himself a massive shake.
Hindsight's a great thing, but had Doidge not been injured Nisbet's season up until now might have been completely different.
JimBHibees
28-10-2021, 06:22 AM
Heard the same. He’s one of the few who doesn’t fo any extra gym work off their own back.
There are sometimes reasons players don't do a lot of gym work maybe carrying an injury which given his recent efforts may be the case, only guessing. Whatever what he is contributing is nowhere near good enough Murphy cut inside last night looking for either Nisbet to come short or run in behind he did neither. Nowhere near good enough. Would start Gullan through the middle on Saturday and also Campbell with Murphy and Boyle wide.
jacomo
28-10-2021, 07:32 AM
There are sometimes reasons players don't do a lot of gym work maybe carrying an injury which given his recent efforts may be the case, only guessing. Whatever what he is contributing is nowhere near good enough Murphy cut inside last night looking for either Nisbet to come short or run in behind he did neither. Nowhere near good enough. Would start Gullan through the middle on Saturday and also Campbell with Murphy and Boyle wide.
Sure.
The problem is, he looks like he’s not trying, and he has previous for not trying.
MrRobot
28-10-2021, 07:35 AM
Hindsight's a great thing, but had Doidge not been injured Nisbet's season up until now might have been completely different.
I seriously doubt it, the guy just looks like he doesn’t want to be here.
Gullan in his short spell last night looked far better than nisbet
blackpoolhibs
28-10-2021, 08:04 AM
Who would want him now, and who would pay money for him? He's another along with Newell who just prance around like show ponies doing the square root of nothing.:rolleyes:
90274
28-10-2021, 08:05 AM
Who would want him now, and who would pay money for him? He's another along with Newell who just prance around like show ponies doing the square root of nothing.:rolleyes:
Show pony is a great description of him.
He is a complete prima dona.
What's his goal scoring record this season by the way?
Stevie Reid
28-10-2021, 08:06 AM
Defended him a lot before but definitely running out of patience now. We looked no worse off when he was off the park last night.
EdinMike
28-10-2021, 08:31 AM
Josh Campbell coming on last night highlighted the guys obvious “laziness” he’s pranced around like he can’t be bothered for a while…
hibsitis
28-10-2021, 08:49 AM
Nothing. As with all players, their attitude is down to themselves.
So are we really saying we have no expectation of managers to motivate players?
Since90+2
28-10-2021, 08:52 AM
His drop off in performances has been one of the most dramatic I can remember.
Admittedly having Doidge out has not helped but for an international player who was touted as being worth millions only a few months back he needs to do far far more.
Scorrie
28-10-2021, 08:54 AM
I was at the game last night and I thought Nesbit looked overweight as well. Could’ve been the angle I was at but we were right at pitch side so saw at close range how poor he was
Coco Bryce
28-10-2021, 08:54 AM
His drop off in performances has been one of the most dramatic I can remember.
Admittedly having Doidge out has not helped but for an international player who was touted as being worth millions only a few months back he needs to do far far more.
He's put Lawrence Shankland to shame.
Since90+2
28-10-2021, 08:56 AM
I was at the game last night and I thought Nesbit looked overweight as well. Could’ve been the angle I was at but we were right at pitch side so saw at close range how poor he was
Personally I don't think he's overweight. He's got a slightly heavier build but I think that's just natural for him.
Since452
28-10-2021, 08:56 AM
Defending starts from the front. A strikers role is more than just putting the ball in the net these days. You have to press off the ball and make sure you keep your shape or it puts the whole team out of kilter. He isn't doing that right now and it is badly impacting the rest of the team. He isn't working hard enough for whatever reason.
Scorrie
28-10-2021, 09:02 AM
Personally I don't think he's overweight. He's got a slightly heavier build but I think that's just natural for him.
Ah ok fair enough. Still no excuse for his lack of application though!
allyh1bs
28-10-2021, 09:03 AM
I’ve been watching Hibs since 1964, and I don’t believe I’ve ever felt about another Hibs player the way I feel about Nisbet.
After the Cup Final, I never wanted to see him in a Hibs jersey again. Irrespective of potential transfers, and our lack of strikers, he should be dropped, because his effect on the team is now negative- less than zero.
Hungry, energetic young guys will at least contribute positively. Even the loyal Steve Clarke must be looking at Watt and Brophy - two proper football players.
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Winston Ingram
28-10-2021, 09:38 AM
Is he badly out of form or just not actually that good, accept he scored a lot of goals in the first part of last season but since january he has been poor
I've never understood the hype.
Technically I think he's good and he's a good finisher. Other than that he's awful.
His hold-up play is atrocious. If the ball is played into him back to goal and a defender is within touching distance of him 9 times out of 10 he will lose it. If the ball into him isn't perfect, he won't even bother putting a challenge.
His movement is appalling. Everytime a cross comes into the box he just waits. No front post runs, no back post runs. He pretty much just stands still.
I was gutted we never sold him in January. I'm still stunned Birmingham put in a bid as high as they did.
Tyler Durden
28-10-2021, 10:14 AM
There doesn't appear to be any chance of him "playing his way" out of this form. He needs taken out for a few weeks, maybe even train with the kids. Make him understand that his attitude needs to change immediately.
You have to question his team mates here aswell. I've noticed Porteous giving him a few rockets but someone should be getting hold off him and letting him know he's taking the p*ss. Sadly it doesn't seem we have the characters in there to demand some basic standards. Disappointing all round.
GreenPJ
28-10-2021, 10:27 AM
I think Nisbet is a good player, I think he has the potential to be a very good player but he is way off that at the moment. He doesn't suit being the loan striker and he was clearly frustrated last night as he turned into Ross Chisholm spending more time pointing than actually running or doing anything productive.
I think the main issue just now is his overall fitness levels, that's then impacting positioning, touch and game intelligence from both a defensive and an offensive perspective.
The coaching team need to work out what's going on (mentally and/or physically). I think dropping him for a couple of games will allow him to realise that even with Doidge injured he is not automatically going to be picked and he needs to then focus on getting those fitness levels up and getting his mind back in the game.
Other clubs as well as us were putting him in the 7 figure bracket and I think that is still a reasonable expectation but he needs to start to be more impactful (again) sooner rather than later.
Time for SDG to put the arm round the shoulder (or kick him in the ass).
Coco Bryce
28-10-2021, 10:30 AM
There doesn't appear to be any chance of him "playing his way" out of this form. He needs taken out for a few weeks, maybe even train with the kids. Make him understand that his attitude needs to change immediately.
You have to question his team mates here aswell. I've noticed Porteous giving him a few rockets but someone should be getting hold off him and letting him know he's taking the p*ss. Sadly it doesn't seem we have the characters in there to demand some basic standards. Disappointing all round.
A few of us noticed at the game last night when Nisbet went down after a knock in the 2nd half our players never really bothered about him or went over to see if he was OK?
We thought that was rather odd.
blackpoolhibs
28-10-2021, 10:31 AM
I've never understood the hype.
Technically I think he's good and he's a good finisher. Other than that he's awful.
His hold-up play is atrocious. If the ball is played into him back to goal and a defender is within touching distance of him 9 times out of 10 he will lose it. If the ball into him isn't perfect, he won't even bother putting a challenge.
His movement is appalling. Everytime a cross comes into the box he just waits. No front post runs, no back post runs. He pretty much just stands still.
I was gutted we never sold him in January. I'm still stunned Birmingham put in a bid as high as they did.
He moves? I thought my stream had stuck last night until i noticed it was only him that was not moving.:rolleyes:
JimBHibees
28-10-2021, 10:37 AM
He moves? I thought my stream had stuck last night until i noticed it was only him that was not moving.:rolleyes:
:greengrin
Stuart93
28-10-2021, 10:37 AM
He rivals Kamberi for his on field attitude
We should take whatever we can get for him in January and bring someone in that actually wants to try for the team
JimBHibees
28-10-2021, 10:39 AM
Sure.
The problem is, he looks like he’s not trying, and he has previous for not trying.
Does he have previous for not trying? Don't know enough about his time with other teams. Did he go in the huff at pars when we didn't get him in transfer window?
SlickShoes
28-10-2021, 10:40 AM
Defending starts from the front. A strikers role is more than just putting the ball in the net these days. You have to press off the ball and make sure you keep your shape or it puts the whole team out of kilter. He isn't doing that right now and it is badly impacting the rest of the team. He isn't working hard enough for whatever reason.
Kyogo was constantly putting our defenders under pressure and it resulted in a few mistakes and opportunities created. It doesn't always work but it makes the defenders always second guess how much time they have on the ball.
I was annoyed by how little pressure we put on Hart who is a terrible goalie with his feet, Nisbet was just standing back and the few times we did put him under pressure it was Boyle or someone else pushing forward from midfield while Nisbet just marked the centre half with his hands up his sleeves.
Perfect Hatrick
28-10-2021, 10:40 AM
He rivals Kamberi for his on field attitude
We should take whatever we can get for him in January and bring someone in that actually wants to try for the team
Genuinely think that going to Rangers has amplified the perceived poor attitude Kamberi had. It wasn’t great, absolutely, but I genuinely think Nisbets is a lot worse than Kamberi’s ever was at Hibs.
Wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest to see Nisbets career to the same way.
JimBHibees
28-10-2021, 10:43 AM
Defended him a lot before but definitely running out of patience now. We looked no worse off when he was off the park last night.
That is kind of where I am thought there were reasons for his poor performance previously in terms of not being suited to play up front however last night was so poor. Giving away the ball and then putting in little effort to win it back for the third goal to just not showing at all. Gullan showed more in the 20 mins or so he was on and should start centrally on Saturday.
Just_Jimmy
28-10-2021, 10:48 AM
A year ago since he lost his Dad. Rightly or wrongly, football probably isn't the first thing on his mind.
Doesn't exactly help hibs and Ross isn't in a place where he can afford to help Kevin through any issues, he needs him to start scoring again.
KNs hibs career is a weird one. Scored plenty goals, got caps, played at a Euros. Yet many hibs fans don't rate or like him and he doesn't do much to endear himself to the club. It's a strange one.
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Gaffer1875
28-10-2021, 10:50 AM
Add Gogic, Hanlon and Drey Wright to the exit list for me. Not good enough at this level / anymore.
Huge January window ahead.
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Winston Ingram
28-10-2021, 10:51 AM
Genuinely think that going to Rangers has amplified the perceived poor attitude Kamberi had. It wasn’t great, absolutely, but I genuinely think Nisbets is a lot worse than Kamberi’s ever was at Hibs.
Wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest to see Nisbets career to the same way.
This. I'd take Kamberi over Nisbet every day of the week.
silverhibee
28-10-2021, 10:51 AM
I’m hoping he’s playing through an injury otherwise his contribution just now is pretty pathetic.
:agree:
Unseen work
28-10-2021, 10:54 AM
One year today since his dad died, wonder how much that is playing on his mind.
Bad run of results at the moment but I don't see the need for the Kevin Nisbet pile on.
He looks low on confidence which is affecting his decision-making. He's far from alone in that respect. To compound matters, we don't have the luxury of taking him out the firing line due to our lack of options in that department. That's our own doing.
I agree he needs to contribute more but words like hate being banded about, comparisons to Florian Kamberi, who showed real contempt for the club, all a bit unnecessary imo.
Lacking in confidence or not, the least we expect is some energy and fight for the jersey on his back, stinking attitude and been like that since his non move in January.
Callum_62
28-10-2021, 11:20 AM
Let's be honest, his involvement at the 3rd goal was that bad its fining territory
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Coco Bryce
28-10-2021, 11:27 AM
He moves? I thought my stream had stuck last night until i noticed it was only him that was not moving.:rolleyes:
Nisbet is constantly 'buffering' on most of my Hibs TV streams I've watched this season.
Coco Bryce
28-10-2021, 11:28 AM
This. I'd take Kamberi over Nisbet every day of the week.
At least he could actually run.
jacomo
28-10-2021, 11:32 AM
Does he have previous for not trying? Don't know enough about his time with other teams. Did he go in the huff at pars when we didn't get him in transfer window?
No we signed from Dunfermline.
He broke through at PT. But he admitted himself that he didn’t do himself justice and his career progression was slowed.
Key West
28-10-2021, 11:32 AM
It's been like playing with 10 men for a while.
Coco Bryce
28-10-2021, 11:33 AM
No we signed from Dunfermline.
He broke through at PT. But he admitted himself that he didn’t do himself justice and his career progression was slowed.
He was at Hibs as a youth.
Northernhibee
28-10-2021, 11:40 AM
Add Gogic, Hanlon and Drey Wright to the exit list for me. Not good enough at this level / anymore.
Huge January window ahead.
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Mental to see Hanlon’s name in lists like these.
Stuart93
28-10-2021, 11:44 AM
Does he have previous for not trying? Don't know enough about his time with other teams. Did he go in the huff at pars when we didn't get him in transfer window?
The pars fans I spoke to when we signed him said he barely tried a leg for them after we’d failed to sign him in the January.
Smartie
28-10-2021, 11:44 AM
Mental to see Hanlon’s name in lists like these.
It is, but he can’t hide from the fact that he’s been mince over the past 3 weeks - arguably as big a disappointment as anyone bar Nisbet.
Nisbet, Hanlon and Newell are the 3 who have been furthest from the standards expected, or from the standards they have previously set.
The others mentioned are squad players whose strengths and weaknesses we know all about.
Winston Ingram
28-10-2021, 11:52 AM
One year today since his dad died, wonder how much that is playing on his mind.
I understand the anniversary would be tough but what about every other game prior to this? He's been rank in all of them bar Motherwell
Since90+2
28-10-2021, 11:56 AM
It is, but he can’t hide from the fact that he’s been mince over the past 3 weeks - arguably as big a disappointment as anyone bar Nisbet.
Nisbet, Hanlon and Newell are the 3 who have been furthest from the standards expected, or from the standards they have previously set.
The others mentioned are squad players whose strengths and weaknesses we know all about.
Throughout his career Hanlon has went through these peaks and troughs in form. It's likely the reason he's never played at a higher level.
Box 17
28-10-2021, 12:03 PM
The pars fans I spoke to when we signed him said he barely tried a leg for them after we’d failed to sign him in the January.
It's concerning that he seems to be exhibiting a character trait that has manifested previously in similar circumstances.
I think we have all encountered people, whether it be family, friends or work colleagues, who are lazy, work-shy, petulant etc. I've never known anyone to change.
Centre Hawf
28-10-2021, 12:09 PM
He’s been poor. He’ll know that himself. But some of the comments in this thread are piss poor.
Coco Bryce
28-10-2021, 12:16 PM
He’s been poor. He’ll know that himself. But some of the comments in this thread are piss poor.
He's not been poor he's been piss poor!
He'll know he isn't trying a leg which is also piss poor.
blackpoolhibs
28-10-2021, 12:18 PM
He’s been poor. He’ll know that himself. But some of the comments in this thread are piss poor.
Players can be off form, it happens to every player.
Not trying is different to being off form.
Mickey Weir
28-10-2021, 12:19 PM
He's a waste of space along with the rest of the team. They are a disgrace to the jersey.
If we didn't have Boyle, we'd be in big trouble. Time for Ron to start showing some leadership because we are rudderless right now.
Stuart93
28-10-2021, 12:26 PM
Players can be off form, it happens to every player.
Not trying is different to being off form.
:agree::agree:
Smartie
28-10-2021, 12:31 PM
Is he working his ticket?
A club has let him know they fancy taking him but not at the price Hibs would be demanding? Go through the motions for a bit, bring that valuation down to the point that we're almost begging clubs to take him off our hands, then the club swoops and both Nisbet and that club are happy, pocketing half each on the difference in transfer fee demanded in the summer and paid whenever the player leaves?
The drop off in form and work rate is so drastic as to be almost inexplicable by innocent reasons.*
The rate that he's rattled through clubs in recent years would suggest that he won't let loyalty or emotion for a club impede his personal upward progression or financial prospects, why would we expect anything different at Hibs?
*I still wonder if it he might be carrying an injury that for some reason Hibs won't divulge. It seems to disappear when he goes to play for Scotland though.
Mikey_1875
28-10-2021, 12:39 PM
Seen this on twitter which sums up his contributions
https://mobile.twitter.com/JDHibs/status/1453635921388134403
“24 touches. Lost possession 11 times. No shots on target. No successful dribbles. 1 successful duel out of 5”
This is coupled with a picture of his heat map for the night
“ I'll add, he had 11 accurate passes. 5 of which were from kick off”
Perfect Hatrick
28-10-2021, 12:42 PM
Seen this on twitter which sums up his contributions
https://mobile.twitter.com/JDHibs/status/1453635921388134403
“24 touches. Lost possession 11 times. No shots on target. No successful dribbles. 1 successful duel out of 5”
This is coupled with a picture of his heat map for the night
“ I'll add, he had 11 accurate passes. 5 of which were from kick off”
That’s so bad it’s almost funny.
Heckys Wheel
28-10-2021, 12:48 PM
Seen this on twitter which sums up his contributions
https://mobile.twitter.com/JDHibs/status/1453635921388134403
“24 touches. Lost possession 11 times. No shots on target. No successful dribbles. 1 successful duel out of 5”
This is coupled with a picture of his heat map for the night
“ I'll add, he had 11 accurate passes. 5 of which were from kick off”
Stats are bad enough but pictures speak a thousand words.
Pathetic - https://twitter.com/tamsellicsoniii/status/1453500914455781381?s=21
MrRobot
28-10-2021, 01:13 PM
He’s been poor. He’ll know that himself. But some of the comments in this thread are piss poor.
If he knows that himself then he could literally just try harder and apply himself. His attitude is the only thing that appears to be piss poor.
Hibiza
28-10-2021, 01:29 PM
He came out the Hampden tunnel ( final ) , arguing and gesticulating with a team mate , was told that it was " part of his game " . He done nothing in that game or months before or months after.
Centre Hawf
28-10-2021, 02:22 PM
If he knows that himself then he could literally just try harder and apply himself. His attitude is the only thing that appears to be piss poor.
I'm not going to defend his performances at all as we all admit he's been very poor. But I don't see a lazy guy, he's a poacher who is getting zero service and has been asked to play through his woeful form by continuing to get zero service. He needs dropped, not hung out to dry constantly.
As many others have suggested, it's the anniversary of his fathers death today and I'm sure it's been turbulent year for him, I know myself when I went through a bereavement I didn't fully crash mentally over it until at least 12 months on, these things can take their toll. Add in being in the spotlight like he is during a very rough patch of form and you've not exactly got the recipe for a man to look like he's loving life so it's only natural his body language doesn't inspire.
While we can all be disappointed in his performances I think some of the criticism towards him about his attitude (has anyone heard anything about his attitude being an issue at this present moment at Hibs?), comparing him to Kamberi, calling him a prima dona etc is just a bit over the top.
Coco Bryce
28-10-2021, 02:35 PM
Seen this on twitter which sums up his contributions
https://mobile.twitter.com/JDHibs/status/1453635921388134403
“24 touches. Lost possession 11 times. No shots on target. No successful dribbles. 1 successful duel out of 5”
This is coupled with a picture of his heat map for the night
“ I'll add, he had 11 accurate passes. 5 of which were from kick off”
Wow! That's just frightening.
Callum_62
28-10-2021, 03:24 PM
I'm not going to defend his performances at all as we all admit he's been very poor. But I don't see a lazy guy, he's a poacher who is getting zero service
While we can all be disappointed in his performances I think some of the criticism towards him about his attitude (has anyone heard anything about his attitude being an issue at this present moment at Hibs?), comparing him to Kamberi, calling him a prima dona etc is just a bit over the top.
https://twitter.com/tamsellics...tatus/1453500914455781381?s=21
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ancient hibee
28-10-2021, 03:45 PM
Is he working his ticket?
A club has let him know they fancy taking him but not at the price Hibs would be demanding? Go through the motions for a bit, bring that valuation down to the point that we're almost begging clubs to take him off our hands, then the club swoops and both Nisbet and that club are happy, pocketing half each on the difference in transfer fee demanded in the summer and paid whenever the player leaves?
The drop off in form and work rate is so drastic as to be almost inexplicable by innocent reasons.*
The rate that he's rattled through clubs in recent years would suggest that he won't let loyalty or emotion for a club impede his personal upward progression or financial prospects, why would we expect anything different at Hibs?
*I still wonder if it he might be carrying an injury that for some reason Hibs won't divulge. It seems to disappear when he goes to play for Scotland though.
No doubt this load of reincarnated Enid Blyton tosh will be a Hibs.net fact by the end of the day.
Centre Hawf
28-10-2021, 03:50 PM
https://twitter.com/tamsellics...tatus/1453500914455781381?s=21
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It's deleted unfortunately but I think I seen it earlier today and assume it was his lack of attempt in a tackle on Rogic(?) last night. Not great from him, but he's probably not wanted to give away a foul on the edge of the box.
As bad as it is I'm not sure it justifies some of the things being said. I actually think if you look at the whole move/phase he's had to come wide and short to get involved with the play, which I'm not sure lazy players do.
cabbageandribs1875
28-10-2021, 04:04 PM
It's deleted unfortunately but I think I seen it earlier today and assume it was his lack of attempt in a tackle on Rogic(?) last night. Not great from him, but he's probably not wanted to give away a foul on the edge of the box.
As bad as it is I'm not sure it justifies some of the things being said. I actually think if you look at the whole move/phase he's had to come wide and short to get involved with the play, which I'm not sure lazy players do.
no idea what's wrong with that link but i still had it opened in another tab from earlier, i've copied and pasted it a couple of times opening new tabs, and again using another browser and it plays fine each time, this is the link i just opened with Google two mins ago
https://twitter.com/tamsellicsoniii/status/1453500914455781381?s=21
looks exactly the same address as the one that's NOT playing :hmmm:
JimBHibees
28-10-2021, 04:13 PM
No we signed from Dunfermline.
He broke through at PT. But he admitted himself that he didn’t do himself justice and his career progression was slowed.
I know we signed him from Dunfermline but we tried to get him the window before.
Baker9
28-10-2021, 04:27 PM
He came out the Hampden tunnel ( final ) , arguing and gesticulating with a team mate , was told that it was " part of his game " . He done nothing in that game or months before or months after.
I'm sure he also wore a different top from the rest of the squad during the warm up. It seemed weird that he got away with that.
Smartie
28-10-2021, 04:28 PM
No doubt this load of reincarnated Enid Blyton tosh will be a Hibs.net fact by the end of the day.
:greengrin
I accept that it is a bit fanciful.
What is your explanation for the difference between the Nisbet of the first half of last season and the Nisbet so far this season?
Just a drop in form?
Does he look to you like he's knocking his pan in trying to turn things around?
JammyDoidger
28-10-2021, 04:30 PM
One year today since his dad died, wonder how much that is playing on his mind.
I know everyone's different but if I was a professional football and was playing on or around my dads anniversary it would give me a strong determination to work my socks off, I'd have extra drive to score and do him proud. He's a lazy barsteward thats the bottom line. The least you expect from a lone striker is effort, he doesn't even give that. Thinks he's a lot better than he is. When he first came he was tracking back and putting tackles in etc, it's all stopped. I'd get rid in January if a half decent offer comes in. 2m would be great for us.
Baker9
28-10-2021, 04:30 PM
He came out the Hampden tunnel ( final ) , arguing and gesticulating with a team mate , was told that it was " part of his game " . He done nothing in that game or months before or months after.
He also came out with a different top on during the warm up. Nobody from the club stopped that. Pampered?
wookie70
28-10-2021, 04:45 PM
Stats are bad enough but pictures speak a thousand words.
Pathetic - https://twitter.com/tamsellicsoniii/status/1453500914455781381?s=21
IT was very poor but Newell and JDH weren't any better as he ran though. Must have felt like dribbling through cones at training
cabbageandribs1875
28-10-2021, 05:00 PM
i've watched 261 times and i'm still convinced it's JDH that actually kicks the ball forward to the dude that crosses across the box for the other dude to score, it wasn't the player that thanked Newell and Nisbet for not challenging him
:greengrin
I accept that it is a bit fanciful.
What is your explanation for the difference between the Nisbet of the first half of last season and the Nisbet so far this season?
Just a drop in form?
Does he look to you like he's knocking his pan in trying to turn things around?
He wanted his move in January that would quadrupled his wage, it didn't happen, he's hardly kicked a ball since. Someone else posted that Dunfermline fans thought the same when his move to us in the January didn't happen, seems a recurring theme.
CMurdoch
28-10-2021, 05:03 PM
He is a penalty box striker and as well as missing Doidge doing the hard miles next to him he isn't getting much service.
Should have rested him last night, given Gullan a run and then play both on Saturday. We need to score goals and win.
Allant1981
28-10-2021, 05:18 PM
He is a penalty box striker and as well as missing Doidge doing the hard miles next to him he isn't getting much service.
Should have rested him last night, given Gullan a run and then play both on Saturday. We need to score goals and win.
For being a penalty box striker he doesnt like to get in the penalty box that often
chrisski33
28-10-2021, 05:20 PM
I know everyone's different but if I was a professional football and was playing on or around my dads anniversary it would give me a strong determination to work my socks off, I'd have extra drive to score and do him proud. He's a lazy barsteward thats the bottom line. The least you expect from a lone striker is effort, he doesn't even give that. Thinks he's a lot better than he is. When he first came he was tracking back and putting tackles in etc, it's all stopped. I'd get rid in January if a half decent offer comes in. 2m would be great for us.
people react and respond differently to death and also to anniversies, just because he is a professional footballer doesnt make him exempt from that. I know each of my 3 kids have different emotions around the anniversary of their mothers' death. something is up with Nisbet thats for sure and maybe something behind the scenes we don't know about.
Hibiza
28-10-2021, 05:49 PM
I know everyone's different but if I was a professional football and was playing on or around my dads anniversary it would give me a strong determination to work my socks off, I'd have extra drive to score and do him proud. He's a lazy barsteward thats the bottom line. The least you expect from a lone striker is effort, he doesn't even give that. Thinks he's a lot better than he is. When he first came he was tracking back and putting tackles in etc, it's all stopped. I'd get rid in January if a half decent offer comes in. 2m would be great for us.
:top marks
greenlex
28-10-2021, 06:09 PM
I’ll be honest and say I’ve never really got the hype around Kevin but he isn’t a bad player. His style us certainly not to run channels and drag defenders around. He needs another target type partner to get the best out if him. He isn’t suited to be playing up there on his own. Unfortunately this is the position we find ourselves in.
Brightside
28-10-2021, 06:19 PM
There are some right nasty bar stewards on here eh.
StirlingHibee
28-10-2021, 06:29 PM
I've thought it for a while but was always a little nervous about sharing before but Nisbet's work ethic is truly dreadful. All the top strikers work their socks off. I see little humility in the lad and would be happy to see him leave the club.
Crunchie
28-10-2021, 06:31 PM
i've watched 261 times and i'm still convinced it's JDH that actually kicks the ball forward to the dude that crosses across the box for the other dude to score, it wasn't the player that thanked Newell and Nisbet for not challenging him
Only 261 you say :rolleyes:
Coco Bryce
28-10-2021, 06:44 PM
There are some right nasty bar stewards on here eh.
If you think this thread is bad I'd seriously avoid Twitter if I was you.
This is powder puff compared to on there.
hibbydad
28-10-2021, 06:54 PM
He wanted his move in January that would quadrupled his wage, it didn't happen, he's hardly kicked a ball since. Someone else posted that Dunfermline fans thought the same when his move to us in the January didn't happen, seems a recurring theme.
You are right he did the same at Partick
Crunchie
28-10-2021, 07:10 PM
Bad run of results at the moment but I don't see the need for the Kevin Nisbet pile on.
He looks low on confidence which is affecting his decision-making. He's far from alone in that respect. To compound matters, we don't have the luxury of taking him out the firing line due to our lack of options in that department. That's our own doing.
I agree he needs to contribute more but words like hate being banded about, comparisons to Florian Kamberi, who showed real contempt for the club, all a bit unnecessary imo.
:top marksHis demeanour doesn't help but I think it's night and day to the Kamberi scenario. He was unlucky against united hitting the post. Once the team hits form again he'll start scoring.
chrisski33
28-10-2021, 08:27 PM
There are some right nasty bar stewards on here eh.
Bet most on here wouldnt perform well on the 1st anniversary of the death of a mother or father.
jacomo
28-10-2021, 09:20 PM
:top marksHis demeanour doesn't help but I think it's night and day to the Kamberi scenario. He was unlucky against united hitting the post. Once the team hits form again he'll start scoring.
Let’s hope so!
Brightside
28-10-2021, 09:22 PM
Bet most on here wouldnt perform well on the 1st anniversary of the death of a mother or father.
All Johnny big balls. Claiming he’s lazy in training. Yet still he gets picked? It’s a load of pish.
JimBHibees
28-10-2021, 09:24 PM
I've thought it for a while but was always a little nervous about sharing before but Nisbet's work ethic is truly dreadful. All the top strikers work their socks off. I see little humility in the lad and would be happy to see him leave the club.
:greengrin ffs
B.H.F.C
28-10-2021, 09:44 PM
All Johnny big balls. Claiming he’s lazy in training. Yet still he gets picked? It’s a load of pish.
What’s pish about it? He’s lazy on the pitch, why would he be any different in training?
His involvement in their third goal sums him up at the moment. We all know why he’s continued to be picked.
Brightside
28-10-2021, 10:24 PM
What’s pish about it? He’s lazy on the pitch, why would he be any different in training?
His involvement in their third goal sums him up at the moment. We all know why he’s continued to be picked.
He’s being forced to play as a false 9. No idea why. Hence why he spends more time around the half way line. Our current setup isn’t making the best use of the player. The staff will have a clear metric on his work rate on the pitch from the sensors they all wear. I’ll say again. If he was lazy he would not be playing. Just like Scott.
B.H.F.C
28-10-2021, 10:43 PM
He’s being forced to play as a false 9. No idea why. Hence why he spends more time around the half way line. Our current setup isn’t making the best use of the player. The staff will have a clear metric on his work rate on the pitch from the sensors they all wear. I’ll say again. If he was lazy he would not be playing. Just like Scott.
He’s playing because we don’t have another option.
False 9, that’s a new one. He’s just a striker and, at the moment, not a very good one.
Maybe he’ll improve when Doidge is back to hold his hand.
You can’t honestly watch him and think he’s giving everything he’s got?
Brightside
28-10-2021, 10:50 PM
He’s playing because we don’t have another option.
False 9, that’s a new one. He’s just a striker and, at the moment, not a very good one.
Maybe he’ll improve when Doidge is back to hold his hand.
You can’t honestly watch him and think he’s giving everything he’s got?
I think he’s being wasted in our current set up. I don’t think he’s lazy. And he’s not lazy at training.
B.H.F.C
28-10-2021, 10:56 PM
I think he’s being wasted in our current set up. I don’t think he’s lazy. And he’s not lazy at training.
You obviously don’t watch him train so you don’t really know what he’s like there. But on the pitch, where we see him, I don’t think any sensible person would say he’s giving everything he’s got.
If he can’t play that role in this league he’s never going to get a move to a better level.
Smartie
28-10-2021, 10:57 PM
I think he’s being wasted in our current set up. I don’t think he’s lazy. And he’s not lazy at training.
I agree with your first point. I think laziness has started to creep into his game and he’s certainly not grafting as hard as he was when he joined (this may be down to tactics but that’s highly unlikely).
Third point - good to know. It’s through hard work (and management finding a role that suits him) that he’ll get through this.
silverhibee
28-10-2021, 11:25 PM
Seemingly been carrying a injury for the last few weeks, if correct I will cut him some slack.
And Tam the bam can away and commentate on his beloved celtc.
Allant1981
29-10-2021, 05:04 AM
He’s being forced to play as a false 9. No idea why. Hence why he spends more time around the half way line. Our current setup isn’t making the best use of the player. The staff will have a clear metric on his work rate on the pitch from the sensors they all wear. I’ll say again. If he was lazy he would not be playing. Just like Scott.
Do you seriously think he isnt a lazy player or just trying to make out as usual you know what's going on at the club with players and training
Since452
29-10-2021, 05:15 AM
He’s playing because we don’t have another option.
False 9, that’s a new one. He’s just a striker and, at the moment, not a very good one.
Maybe he’ll improve when Doidge is back to hold his hand.
You can’t honestly watch him and think he’s giving everything he’s got?
Correct. He's playing because we're in the rediculous position of not having another striker good enough to replace him. Infuriating.
Brightside
29-10-2021, 06:10 AM
Do you seriously think he isnt a lazy player or just trying to make out as usual you know what's going on at the club with players and training
Yes. By the way im a big fan of your ironic username.
JimBHibees
29-10-2021, 06:15 AM
Yes. By the way im a big fan of your ironic username.
:greengrin
JimBHibees
29-10-2021, 06:17 AM
Seemingly been carrying a injury for the last few weeks, if correct I will cut him some slack.
And Tam the bam can away and commentate on his beloved celtc.
That certainly would explain a few things given his lack of movement.
Allant1981
29-10-2021, 06:35 AM
Yes. By the way im a big fan of your ironic username.
Are you aye, you stick to pretending you know everything that is going on with the players and ill stick to watching the games
Brightside
29-10-2021, 06:42 AM
Are you aye, you stick to pretending you know everything that is going on with the players and ill stick to watching the games
I’ll stick to not making up ***** about the players and actually supporting. I actually love the Hibs.
BoomtownHibees
29-10-2021, 07:17 AM
Bet most on here wouldnt perform well on the 1st anniversary of the death of a mother or father.
Wednesday night wasn’t just a one-off though was it?
18Craig75
29-10-2021, 07:27 AM
He’s being picked because there’s no one else. JR clearly trying to coax him through without crushing what little confidence/appetite he has left.
He’s, allegedly, part of the “fat club” at east mains. Doesn’t do any extra gym work off his own back, so has been told to lose weight and put on a program that achieves this, along with Allan, and Scott (Ross confirmed this post match) and others though I don’t know who they are.
Apparently his nose out of joint because of Boyle’s new wage and what Mueller is coming in on.
If he wants a better contract or a move to a better club, theres only one way to go about that and that’s by performing on the pitch, right now he’s way off it.
blackpoolhibs
29-10-2021, 07:30 AM
I think he’s being wasted in our current set up. I don’t think he’s lazy. And he’s not lazy at training.
He's not very adaptable then, and if he's not lazy at training, he certainly looks lazy on the pitch.
He's always on his heels reacting to situations, never in position to defend properly from the front, and half arsed interceptions like wednesday don't help anyone think different.
Since452
29-10-2021, 07:31 AM
He may be carrying an injury but he's also in a comfort zone knowing he has nobody to challenge him for his position. He hasn't been at it for weeks and he still starts all the time. That is on the recruitment team. Even Ross was banging on about not having enough attacking players during the transfer window. How we have got to this stage is an absolute joke when the prize for 3rd is so big.
Since452
29-10-2021, 07:35 AM
He’s being picked because there’s no one else. JR clearly trying to coax him through without crushing what little confidence/appetite he has left.
He’s, allegedly, part of the “fat club” at east mains. Doesn’t do any extra gym work off his own back, so has been told to lose weight and put on a program that achieves this, along with Allan, and Scott (Ross confirmed this post match) and others though I don’t know who they are.
Apparently his nose out of joint because of Boyle’s new wage and what Mueller is coming in on.
If he wants a better contract or a move to a better club, theres only one way to go about that and that’s by performing on the pitch, right now he’s way off it.
Impossible
Tyler Durden
29-10-2021, 07:52 AM
He’s being forced to play as a false 9. No idea why. Hence why he spends more time around the half way line. Our current setup isn’t making the best use of the player. The staff will have a clear metric on his work rate on the pitch from the sensors they all wear. I’ll say again. If he was lazy he would not be playing. Just like Scott.
Good that someone is defending him maybe but this is a really bad take. He's not playing as a false 9. He just isn't doing the work and his movement is shocking. If it was genuinely a positional issue he would be getting on the ball more and making something happen. He just isn't interested in making runs at the moment or getting on the ball. It's pathetic.
You're right that Hibs must have the data on this. I think he will be dropped tomorrow as it's now become obvious to everyone that he's just not trying.
Brightside
29-10-2021, 08:01 AM
Good that someone is defending him maybe but this is a really bad take. He's not playing as a false 9. He just isn't doing the work and his movement is shocking. If it was genuinely a positional issue he would be getting on the ball more and making something happen. He just isn't interested in making runs at the moment or getting on the ball. It's pathetic.
You're right that Hibs must have the data on this. I think he will be dropped tomorrow as it's now become obvious to everyone that he's just not trying.
He 100% played as a false 9 v Aberdeen. Player interviews confirmed that setup post that game. And the data suggests the same v Celtic hence why his positional map has him closer to halfway and only just ahead of Newell. Whilst Boyle and Murphy were much higher on that map. It’s clear he’s being asked to come deeper and deeper and I don’t think it’s working.
90274
29-10-2021, 08:19 AM
25 in March.
22 goals in 59 games for Hibs all competitions.
This could be it for him. He really should be working harder. The heatmap is eye opening.
Allant1981
29-10-2021, 08:41 AM
I’ll stick to not making up ***** about the players and actually supporting. I actually love the Hibs.
As do i, hence why i go home and away to matches
Saint Hibee
29-10-2021, 08:59 AM
Kevin Nisbet is the least of our problems. Once the team starts presenting him with opportunities, he will score them. And it baffles me just how much some posters think they can infer about somebody’s psychology and motivation just from their body language during a game of football.
DJ HIBBY
29-10-2021, 09:24 AM
Kevin Nisbet is the least of our problems. Once the team starts presenting him with opportunities, he will score them. And it baffles me just how much some posters think they can infer about somebody’s psychology and motivation just from their body language during a game of football.
Nisbet is one of our biggest problems at the moment. Attacks breakdown due to his inability to hold the ball up. This just puts added pressure on defence as they are being attacked more. His lack of movement is also a problem for defenders and midfielders when passing through lines. Being caught on his heels numerous times whilst in the box just make cross balls a waste of time for our wingers and full backs.
In short, Nisbet is a massive problem the now as it is causing us an issue with most of our play for attack and defence (that’s not to excuse the defence for their inability to defend cross balls)
MWHIBBIES
29-10-2021, 09:25 AM
Kevin Nisbet is the least of our problems. Once the team starts presenting him with opportunities, he will score them. And it baffles me just how much some posters think they can infer about somebody’s psychology and motivation just from their body language during a game of football.
He is without doubt one of our biggest problems. Good strikers create their own chances. Average one's at least move in the box, work hard and hold the ball up. He is doing nothing good right now. Seriously, his refusal to ever even make a front post run or get in front of his man is pathetic.
JimBHibees
29-10-2021, 09:29 AM
He is without doubt one of our biggest problems. Good strikers create their own chances. Average one's at least move in the box, work hard and hold the ball up. He is doing nothing good right now. Seriously, his refusal to ever even make a front post run or get in front of his man is pathetic.
That does my head in when no one makes a front post run. Against Celtic in first half a ball went into their box and the three Hibs players were all middle to back no one near the front post.
GreenPJ
29-10-2021, 09:30 AM
He is without doubt one of our biggest problems. Good strikers create their own chances. Average one's at least move in the box, work hard and hold the ball up. He is doing nothing good right now. Seriously, his refusal to ever even make a front post run or get in front of his man is pathetic.
Not disputing Nisbet's failures at the moment but its been years since we have had a striker that does the front post run.
18Craig75
29-10-2021, 09:32 AM
That does my head in when no one makes a front post run. Against Celtic in first half a ball went into their box and the three Hibs players were all middle to back no one near the front post.
Especially when you consider half our crosses don’t beat the first man!! The first front post run we had was Campbell in the second half, he got something on it as well.
Fergos
29-10-2021, 09:42 AM
Not disputing Nisbet's failures at the moment but its been years since we have had a striker that does the front post run.
Simon Murray did. So did the Aussie lad that NL signed whose name escapes me.
SM is a great example of a hard working striker who, whilst probably short on KNs ability, makes up for it in attitude and work rate.
If KN had SMs attitude and work rate he would be some player.
GGTTH
LaMotta
29-10-2021, 09:45 AM
Kevin Nisbet is the least of our problems. Once the team starts presenting him with opportunities, he will score them. And it baffles me just how much some posters think they can infer about somebody’s psychology and motivation just from their body language during a game of football.
Nisbet is certainly part of the problem but I agree he will start scoring again at some point.
Its interesting re the psychology side of things. Mikey Stewart has talked numerous times around the fact that sometimes your brain just wont let you put in the great performance that you might be capable of. He says that can look to fans like someone isnt trying or cant be bothered but actually for other reasons it's just not happening - ie demotivated via poor coaching/poor management, or trouble in personal life, or generally just feeling mentally exhausted.
Nisbet has been through a traumatic time off the pitch over the last 12 months, these things can take their effect mentally. I can't say with any certainty thats what the problem is but neither can others who are boldly saying he is a lazy primadonna who can't be arsed.
Either way his performances are poor just now, but some of the abuse he is getting is way OTT.
chrisski33
29-10-2021, 09:56 AM
Nisbet is one of our biggest problems at the moment. Attacks breakdown due to his inability to hold the ball up. This just puts added pressure on defence as they are being attacked more. His lack of movement is also a problem for defenders and midfielders when passing through lines. Being caught on his heels numerous times whilst in the box just make cross balls a waste of time for our wingers and full backs.
In short, Nisbet is a massive problem the now as it is causing us an issue with most of our play for attack and defence (that’s not to excuse the defence for their inability to defend cross balls)
i would say he maybe one of the problems but folk seem to be forgetting there are other players who should be stepping up to the plate but aren't. there are some reports of unrest amongst the players esp after the celtic game but could just be the media stoking the fire.
Jim44
29-10-2021, 09:59 AM
I’m generally loathe to point the finger at individuals and am firmly behind the team and JR during this severe loss of form. However, I think Nisbet needs to be dropped to let him get his head together and regain confidence as he definitely has ability. His farcical involvement at the Rogic run the other night was jaw-droppingly bad.
Since452
29-10-2021, 10:01 AM
Nisbet is capable of putting the ball in the net like we saw at Ibrox but he is not working hard enough. I really think he's a player that knows he is going in January. Wouldn't surprise me if something has already been agreed with another club.
He’s being picked because there’s no one else. JR clearly trying to coax him through without crushing what little confidence/appetite he has left.
He’s, allegedly, part of the “fat club” at east mains. Doesn’t do any extra gym work off his own back, so has been told to lose weight and put on a program that achieves this, along with Allan, and Scott (Ross confirmed this post match) and others though I don’t know who they are.
Apparently his nose out of joint because of Boyle’s new wage and what Mueller is coming in on.
If he wants a better contract or a move to a better club, theres only one way to go about that and that’s by performing on the pitch, right now he’s way off it.
Nose out of place due to Boyle getting what he fully deserves, if that's the case then he has a friggin cheek, work hard, score goals and earn a new deal.
I have been disappointed every time I have seen Nisbet in the flesh this season and he isnt the player I thought he was. I am not sure if he was better last season when we only had TV evidence plus a good scoring record.
I am not sure what the problem is but he always seems to choose the wrong option or be in the wrong place and generally doesnt really offer anything. He does need time out of the team, albeit we are short of options right now which is why he retains his place.
I do wonder if we need to think about other options which could be Gullan or maybe could be a left field option like Allan or Wright being asked to play a different role but in the hope thet give us more of a goal threat.
I remember when watching Shankland what struck me was his movement to create space and an option and thats what we are missing (not that I want Shankland, but someone who does what he does)
wookie70
29-10-2021, 11:09 AM
Not disputing Nisbet's failures at the moment but its been years since we have had a striker that does the front post run.
Cummings is the only striker that made that run in about the last decade if not more. Massive bug bear of mine and while I agree that Kev needs to work harder I don't want that to be running between two centre halves who are knocking the ball to each other as his midfield mates look on. He gets into the box fine when we get forward. We just don't do that often enough at the moment. He will be fine when we start supplying service but he does need to knuckle down despite being left out on his own in a system that isn't working
Billy Whizz
29-10-2021, 11:23 AM
For me best thing for Kevin, is not get picked for the next Scotland squad, and have a wee break
Winston Ingram
29-10-2021, 11:56 AM
Kevin Nisbet is the least of our problems. Once the team starts presenting him with opportunities, he will score them. And it baffles me just how much some posters think they can infer about somebody’s psychology and motivation just from their body language during a game of football.
That's utter drivel. How can they provide opportunities to a guy that doesn't move?
Winston Ingram
29-10-2021, 11:58 AM
Nisbet is capable of putting the ball in the net like we saw at Ibrox but he is not working hard enough. I really think he's a player that knows he is going in January. Wouldn't surprise me if something has already been agreed with another club.
I'd imagine if he did have something lined up, the buying club will have likely changed their mind.
Smartie
29-10-2021, 12:26 PM
He 100% played as a false 9 v Aberdeen. Player interviews confirmed that setup post that game. And the data suggests the same v Celtic hence why his positional map has him closer to halfway and only just ahead of Newell. Whilst Boyle and Murphy were much higher on that map. It’s clear he’s being asked to come deeper and deeper and I don’t think it’s working.
It was interesting that after his best bit of play on Wednesday - dropping off and playing lovely ball through to Boyle, who then put a decent ball in himself - that there was absolutely nobody there to get on the end of it.
It was the type of chance that Magennis was putting away earlier this season. On Wednesday I'm not sure if it even registers as a chance.
I've been very critical of Nisbet and I think he's deserved every bit of the criticism but the 2 things that I think might get him off the hook would be if he's carrying an injury or if he's been carrying out some sort of intricate tactical plan that simply hasn't worked and has succeeded in making him look lazy or crap or both.
Brightside
29-10-2021, 01:11 PM
It was interesting that after his best bit of play on Wednesday - dropping off and playing lovely ball through to Boyle, who then put a decent ball in himself - that there was absolutely nobody there to get on the end of it.
It was the type of chance that Magennis was putting away earlier this season. On Wednesday I'm not sure if it even registers as a chance.
I've been very critical of Nisbet and I think he's deserved every bit of the criticism but the 2 things that I think might get him off the hook would be if he's carrying an injury or if he's been carrying out some sort of intricate tactical plan that simply hasn't worked and has succeeded in making him look lazy or crap or both.
Niz was close to getting back in for the return pass.....which was impressive for someone who is bone idle with a stinking attitude.
B.H.F.C
29-10-2021, 02:30 PM
Niz was close to getting back in for the return pass.....which was impressive for someone who is bone idle with a stinking attitude.
No he wasn’t, don’t think he was even in the box.
Smartie
29-10-2021, 02:32 PM
Niz was close to getting back in for the return pass.....which was impressive for someone who is bone idle with a stinking attitude.
Realistically though - he can’t be expected to get on the end of that, can he?
He either needs to quit the dropping off bit (and risk accusations of laziness) or more reasonably - expect someone else, either Murphy or the attacking midfielder to be making sure they’re getting themselves in there once Nisbet drops?
Since90+2
29-10-2021, 02:41 PM
No he wasn’t, don’t think he was even in the box.
If it's the chance I'm thinking of Nisbet was on the edge of the box when the cross came in. Certainly wouldn't say he was close to getting it.
B.H.F.C
29-10-2021, 05:00 PM
If it's the chance I'm thinking of Nisbet was on the edge of the box when the cross came in. Certainly wouldn't say he was close to getting it.
It was actually his one good but of play. Wasn’t his fault he couldn’t get on it, midfielders should have been breaking their necks to get past him as soon as the he received the ball.
Winston Ingram
29-10-2021, 06:02 PM
Niz was close to getting back in for the return pass.....which was impressive for someone who is bone idle with a stinking attitude.
No he wasn’t. He was about 5 yards outside the box with his arms in the air.
Tambo
29-10-2021, 06:54 PM
Can't wait to see Doidge back and fit as it will definitely help Kevin and more importantly Hibs.
Alfred E Newman
29-10-2021, 07:22 PM
That's utter drivel. How can they provide opportunities to a guy that doesn't move?
Chicken and egg.
What’s the point of moving for a ball that’s sailing high over your head or hitting the first defender.
The quality of our crossing from good positions is diabolical.
Shrekko
29-10-2021, 08:42 PM
Chicken and egg.
What’s the point of moving for a ball that’s sailing high over your head or hitting the first defender.
The quality of our crossing from good positions is diabolical.
It’s not chicken and egg - he never gives anybody anything to aim at.
This whole ‘no service’ stuff which was what people used to use to defend Kamberi - another moody prima donna, really grinds my gears. I will absolutely guarantee that when Doidge comes back you will see him getting chances every single week. Yes he’s not a great finisher but he makes damn sure he gives himself opportunities to score.
This is the Scotland …. strikers aren’t served up chances on a silver platter by technically gifted maestros - you need to work. The best players are almost always the ones who run all day.
Winston Ingram
30-10-2021, 06:15 AM
Chicken and egg.
What’s the point of moving for a ball that’s sailing high over your head or hitting the first defender.
The quality of our crossing from good positions is diabolical.
Plenty crosses have gone into the box that have been decent and he just hasn’t moved.
Similarly, he’s received plenty passes in and around the penalty area and his touch has been so bad, he hasn’t been able to control them, but apparently we’ve to forgive him this as Doidge isn’t fit
Crunchie
30-10-2021, 06:58 AM
He is without doubt one of our biggest problems. Good strikers create their own chances. Average one's at least move in the box, work hard and hold the ball up. He is doing nothing good right now. Seriously, his refusal to ever even make a front post run or get in front of his man is pathetic.
Good strikers create their own chances... you just made that up didn't you? The whole team is going through a bad spell and I can't say I've seen him miss any sitters, he was very unlucky with his effort that hit the post against Utd and he definitely created that chance.
Allant1981
30-10-2021, 07:31 AM
Good strikers create their own chances... you just made that up didn't you? The whole team is going through a bad spell and I can't say I've seen him miss any sitters, he was very unlucky with his effort that hit the post against Utd and he definitely created that chance.
He isnt doing enough to get into a position to miss a sitter, thats part of the problem, his work rate is terrible
Brightside
30-10-2021, 08:25 AM
I think he’s going to bang in a couple today. Word is he didn’t even bother with training.
Smartie
30-10-2021, 08:29 AM
I think he’s going to bang in a couple today. Word is he didn’t even bother with training.
Sorry - what exactly do you mean by “word is he didn’t even bother with training”?
blackpoolhibs
30-10-2021, 08:36 AM
Sorry - what exactly do you mean by “word is he didn’t even bother with training”?
:faf:
Brightside
30-10-2021, 08:56 AM
:faf:
Right I’m going back to bed. Probably the same as Kevin.
Wilson
30-10-2021, 09:02 AM
Nisbet isn't the only player off form. Strikers always get it in the neck because goals win games. He has scored goals at this level and I expect him to score many more.
Hopefully the turn around starts today.
Persevere.
Greenbeard
30-10-2021, 09:04 AM
Right I’m going back to bed. Probably the same as Kevin.
Sleep is the professional athlete's friend. But not when Tom Rogic is running at you with the ball 25 yards from goal.
Smartie
30-10-2021, 09:39 AM
Right I’m going back to bed. Probably the same as Kevin.
I guess that's what I get for reading and replying to posts before I'm even out of mine,
MWHIBBIES
30-10-2021, 09:47 AM
Good strikers create their own chances... you just made that up didn't you? The whole team is going through a bad spell and I can't say I've seen him miss any sitters, he was very unlucky with his effort that hit the post against Utd and he definitely created that chance.
No, I've not made anything up. Good strikers score goals regardless of great service. Look at someone like Stokes, Griffiths or riordan here
Keith_M
30-10-2021, 09:50 AM
Nisbet will score a hat-trick today.
Percy Vere
30-10-2021, 10:48 PM
Nisbet had a look on his face when he went on the pitch in the Scottish Cup Final. Wasn’t a good look and it didn’t improve during the game. That said this is a player who flourished with Doidge. Is he fed up playing up top on his own? Dunno but something has got to give.
Sean1875
02-11-2021, 11:19 AM
Quiet incredibly, hes been included in the Scotland squad for the Moldova & Denmark games.
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