Hibs v Dundee Utd

[Hibs90]

Any words from Jack Ross yet?

[Keith_M]

The last 3 or 4 home games have been every bit as bad as your calderwood, fenlon , or butcher sides. So slow and ponderous sideyways and back the way. ....


Sad but true.

We won the last game due to a questionable penalty and threw away points previous to that.

I think Ross has one approach and other sides have sussed that.

Having four(?) players missing today also highlighted our lack of squad depth

[Iain G]

I watched a game of motivated, skillful players passing well and some good goals whilst drinking an excellent cup of coffee.

That was Wallyford park at 10am watching 8 year olds.

Hibs decided pretty early on that they were disorganized, unmotivated and hopeful that someone else would take ownership. Nobody at all in that team or management team got pass marks, not one.

And the coffee was *****.

I thought the pies were ok though!

[SteveHFC]

We were lazy, slow, selfish' - Ross
FT: Hibernian 0-3 Dundee United

Hibernian manager Jack Ross tells BBC Scotland: "We deserved what we got. We were nowhere near the levels we have been at and need to be at to win games. We were lazy, slow, selfish in a lot of our play. We were desperately poor and that isn't acceptable.

"It's a short sharp reminder to all of us. I'm really angry about it but I've got to gather myself and see why we produced that performance and make sure we don't replicate it."

[Chorley Hibee]

Didn’t really come as a surprise. Play at a high tempo against us and we can’t play our way out.
United were very good at what they do.

Similar to the Hearts debacle at ER pre-Covid.

[Pretty Boy]

We were lazy, slow, selfish' - Ross
FT: Hibernian 0-3 Dundee United

Hibernian manager Jack Ross tells BBC Scotland: "We deserved what we got. We were nowhere near the levels we have been at and need to be at to win games. We were lazy, slow, selfish in a lot of our play. We were desperately poor and that isn't acceptable.

"It's a short sharp reminder to all of us. I'm really angry about it but I've got to gather myself and see why we produced that performance and make sure we don't replicate it."

I'm actually quite heartened by that.

I expected the usual 100 words to say nothing but that reads like he's let his anger show.

[The Harp Awakes]

We were lazy, slow, selfish' - Ross
FT: Hibernian 0-3 Dundee United

Hibernian manager Jack Ross tells BBC Scotland: "We deserved what we got. We were nowhere near the levels we have been at and need to be at to win games. We were lazy, slow, selfish in a lot of our play. We were desperately poor and that isn't acceptable.

"It's a short sharp reminder to all of us. I'm really angry about it but I've got to gather myself and see why we produced that performance and make sure we don't replicate it."

Good that he's angry but that's 5 or 6 occasions now in the time he's been here, that we have completely failed to turn up and got rogered by so called lesser teams.

He needs to ask himself why that is, and why when it's obvious on the pitch it's happening, he's clueless how to turn it around.

[tamig]

I'm actually quite heartened by that.

I expected the usual 100 words to say nothing but that reads like he's let his anger show.

Interesting he used the word selfish. There were multiple times in the second half where we were in decent positions and poor decision making denied us the chance. At least a couple of occasions where Doig had bust a gut outside Murphy and Murphy tried to do it himself by cutting inside and the chance was gone.

[cabbageandribs1875]

We were lazy, slow, selfish' - Ross
FT: Hibernian 0-3 Dundee United

Hibernian manager Jack Ross tells BBC Scotland: "We deserved what we got. We were nowhere near the levels we have been at and need to be at to win games. We were lazy, slow, selfish in a lot of our play. We were desperately poor and that isn't acceptable.

"It's a short sharp reminder to all of us. I'm really angry about it but I've got to gather myself and see why we produced that performance and make sure we don't replicate it."


surely he already knows the answer to that one, or does he never watch our first half performances at ER


we WILL see more first half performances like to day, i'm not sure we will see a lot more second half performances like that though because if we do he will be out the door

[Turkish Green]

0-1 down at HT. What does Ross do to change things around: bring on Scott for Allan. That was it only 1 sub made all game.

The team was playing **** yet they had majority of the possession but no clue what to do with the ball. Nothing came from the dug-out. Ross is clearly not a motivator.

[SquashedFrogg]

I couldn't be further away from being a yam if I tried. I'm a very annoyed Hibbee.

Ive seen this movie before with Butcher & Fenlon where we start the season well, start to believe our own hype and before we know it, we're fighting to stay in the division. We need a reaction next week at Pittodrie or heads will drop and serious questions will be asked of Ross.

lol Yam

[Coco Bryce]

JR has no idea how to change things when it goes pear shaped.

That's the most worrying factor for me.

[Coco Bryce]

0-1 down at HT. What does Ross do to change things around: bring on Scott for Allan. That was it only 1 sub made all game.

The team was playing **** yet they had majority of the possession but no clue what to do with the ball. Nothing came from the dug-out. Ross is clearly not a motivator.

And Hanlon is not a club captain. Never once saw him urging on or shouting at any players to get their finger out.

[Alfred E Newman]

We were lazy, slow, selfish' - Ross
FT: Hibernian 0-3 Dundee United

Hibernian manager Jack Ross tells BBC Scotland: "We deserved what we got. We were nowhere near the levels we have been at and need to be at to win games. We were lazy, slow, selfish in a lot of our play. We were desperately poor and that isn't acceptable.

"It's a short sharp reminder to all of us. I'm really angry about it but I've got to gather myself and see why we produced that performance and make sure we don't replicate it."

I’m encouraged to read that but the problem is, thanks to injuries and poor recruitment, there is little he can do to change it .

[The Harp Awakes]

0-1 down at HT. What does Ross do to change things around: bring on Scott for Allan. That was it only 1 sub made all game.

The team was playing **** yet they had majority of the possession but no clue what to do with the ball. Nothing came from the dug-out. Ross is clearly not a motivator.

I agree but I think it demonstrates that we have no-one on the bench who can come on and make any difference

[Smartie]

Interesting he used the word selfish. There were multiple times in the second half where we were in decent positions and poor decision making denied us the chance. At least a couple of occasions where Doig had bust a gut outside Murphy and Murphy tried to do it himself by cutting inside and the chance was gone.

That was the most frustrating thing of the game for me. We actually forced our way into half decent positions a few times during the first half but the combination of poor decision making and some abysmal execution meant that we didn’t even get close to fashioning a chance.

The game takes a different course if we do better in those situations.

For their third goal - I’d love to see that one back and see the absolute cluster**** that unfolded after James Scott found himself in a decent position on the right, played an atrocious cut back straight to their player, then they scored with the next move. I expect it was a good looking goal from a United POV but from ours I don’t think it will make for pretty viewing at all.

[JohnM1875]

0-1 down at HT. What does Ross do to change things around: bring on Scott for Allan. That was it only 1 sub made all game.

The team was playing **** yet they had majority of the possession but no clue what to do with the ball. Nothing came from the dug-out. Ross is clearly not a motivator.

Who else is he going to bring on when trailing the game? The lack of attacking options from the bench is shocking.

[wookie70]

We were lazy, slow, selfish' - Ross
FT: Hibernian 0-3 Dundee United

Hibernian manager Jack Ross tells BBC Scotland: "We deserved what we got. We were nowhere near the levels we have been at and need to be at to win games. We were lazy, slow, selfish in a lot of our play. We were desperately poor and that isn't acceptable.

"It's a short sharp reminder to all of us. I'm really angry about it but I've got to gather myself and see why we produced that performance and make sure we don't replicate it."

I'm glad he has came out and slated them. He hasn't made it personal but he has made it clear what he thought. You couldn't really think much else as we never turned up and players just weren't putting in a shift and were all looking at each other rather than grasping the nettle.

He may want to think about making some subs as only using 1 when professional players are being lazy seems strange. Perhaps he took the view that those that had been part of that performance deserved to take all the blame. He definitely needs to look in the mirror though. Murphy and Allan in the same side. Playing Wood instead of Daz particularly as we had changed formation due to McGinn being out.

I'd love to know what his thoughts were on how he wanted us to play. That team looked a shocker before a ball had been kicked. It was like one of those Lennon picked out the hat teams. What has happen to Gogic has Jack Ross completely forgot he plays for us

[hibee-boys]

Any words from Jack Ross yet?

“But…..but…..but…..as a group they’ve been great for me”, yawn! 4 wins out of 9 with Aberdeen and Celtic to come🙈🤷🏼

[scoopyboy]

And Hanlon is not a club captain. Never once saw him urging on or shouting at any players to get their finger out.

Is it only the captain that is allowed to do this?

[Chorley Hibee]

We were lazy, slow, selfish' - Ross
FT: Hibernian 0-3 Dundee United

Hibernian manager Jack Ross tells BBC Scotland: "We deserved what we got. We were nowhere near the levels we have been at and need to be at to win games. We were lazy, slow, selfish in a lot of our play. We were desperately poor and that isn't acceptable.

"It's a short sharp reminder to all of us. I'm really angry about it but I've got to gather myself and see why we produced that performance and make sure we don't replicate it."

The thing is Jack, these performances at ER are becoming more regular these past 2 years!

[Coco Bryce]

Is it only the captain that is allowed to do this?

It's his job yes.

[Silky]

Good that he's angry but that's 5 or 6 occasions now in the time he's been here, that we have completely failed to turn up and got rogered by so called lesser teams.

He needs to ask himself why that is, and why when it's obvious on the pitch it's happening, he's clueless how to turn it around.

Is he clueless? Who on the bench today could have turned the game? I think he was let down by his recruitment team in the summer-Mathie paid the price for that. He can only piss with the cock he has!

[Hibby70]

There just seems to be a complete lack of desire in our players. There doesn't seem to be anyone driving us on.

You could tell after 10 mins we weren't up for it.

[B.H.F.C]

JR has no idea how to change things when it goes pear shaped.

That's the most worrying factor for me.

I don’t think he has any options to change things at the moment. As much as I’m critical of him, the summer has killed us/him imo.

[Smartie]

JR has no idea how to change things when it goes pear shaped.

That's the most worrying factor for me.

JR has actually done a decent job of turning around a few poor performances.

Far more worrying for me is how often he seems to have a poor performance needing turning around, and how little he has at his disposal to turn around the performances with.

[Allant1981]

JR has no idea how to change things when it goes pear shaped.

That's the most worrying factor for me.

Im a big fan of JR but to make only 1 sub today was strange, we were crying out for a bit of steel in the middle of the park yet gogic stayed on the bench, or even keeping the same formation at the back, bring mcgregor on and go 3 at the back that we normally play, was just an all round crap day

[Crab apple]

I’m encouraged to read that but the problem is, thanks to injuries and poor recruitment, there is little he can do to change it .

In a nutshell. The f..k up that was the last transfer window is now coming back to bite us. I think privately JR and RG are still pretty angry about that.

[Peevemor]

It's his job yes.It's a part of his job.

Dundee Utd's captain is their keeper. Was he constantly organising and motivating their pressing game in the 1st half? He must have some voice!

[B.H.F.C]

Is it only the captain that is allowed to do this?

Thought Hanlon was poor today in the way he dealt, or didn’t deal, with Wood.

He needed someone to settle him down, Hanlon just went in to his shell like the rest of them IMO.

[Coco Bryce]

JR has actually done a decent job of turning around a few poor performances.

Far more worrying for me is how often he seems to have a poor performance needing turning around, and how little he has at his disposal to turn around the performances with.

Gogic should have been on to stop their midfield ghosting past ours continuously.

[JohnM1875]

Thought Hanlon was poor today in the way he dealt, or didn’t deal, with Wood.

He needed someone to settle him down, Hanlon just went in to his shell like the rest of them IMO.

To be fair I sit in the west upper and you could see a few times in the second half Hanlon was close to him and talking him through it at times. Gave him a wee pat on the shoulder as well after Wood scuffed it our for a throw in.

[Smartie]

I'm glad he has came out and slated them. He hasn't made it personal but he has made it clear what he thought. You couldn't really think much else as we never turned up and players just weren't putting in a shift and were all looking at each other rather than grasping the nettle.

He may want to think about making some subs as only using 1 when professional players are being lazy seems strange. Perhaps he took the view that those that had been part of that performance deserved to take all the blame. He definitely needs to look in the mirror though. Murphy and Allan in the same side. Playing Wood instead of Daz particularly as we had changed formation due to McGinn being out.

I'd love to know what his thoughts were on how he wanted us to play. That team looked a shocker before a ball had been kicked. It was like one of those Lennon picked out the hat teams. What has happen to Gogic has Jack Ross completely forgot he plays for us

It’s one of those teams that looks so wrong with hindsight, but with the players we have missing it’s hard to argue what you could actually do differently if we were to play the game again tomorrow with the same players available.

[I_Love_Latapy]

Didn’t really come as a surprise. Play at a high tempo against us and we can’t play our way out.
United were very good at what they do.
Agree

[WhileTheChief..]

There just seems to be a complete lack of desire in our players. There doesn't seem to be anyone driving us on.

You could tell after 10 mins we weren't up for it.

Agreed. That's down to JR and the coaching staff.

I was expecting us to come out all guns blazing at kick off. Everyone fresh after the international break and feeling fired up after the result at Ibrox.

We got nothing. Again. Same every game at ER.

Our squad just isn't very good.

Keep signing players from bottom 6 clubs and it's no surprise if we end up being bottom 6 ourselves.

At least both RG and JR are in agreement that we should be finishing top 4 each year. He needs to get us back there next week and ******' keep us there.

Bottom 6 at Xmas and he can go.

[Smartie]

Gogic should have been on to stop their midfield ghosting past ours continuously.

Is that really the priority at 2-0 down?

He’d be lynched by some if he did that.

I’m not defending him here as today was unacceptable and he had a lot to do with that. It’s just that I think his hands are tied somewhat.

Unfortunately I think we’ve got a long couple of months ahead of us as it’s not going to change.

[NC1875]

Jack Ross has made us better, yes. But let’s be serious, it would’ve been hard to make us worse when he came in.

The guys dull as dishwater and his side epitomises it. No spark, no fight.

If he leaves tonight, no one will miss him.

Too many non performances and very very few really good ones.

[truehibernian]

Is it only the captain that is allowed to do this?

Paul wasn't the reason we lost today and don't want to bash the lad - but he's had his time at Hibs, we need a complete overhaul at the back in the central area and he has to make way in my opinion. Him, Lewy and Darren isn't shy of £400,000 in wages - there's the reason we need new blood, new players, and options. Hate saying it too - but we are not a charity. Plus it's a psychological thing - losing big games sticks in the mind and we need players in those positions who have more positive mindsets. Top 3 thinking has to mean Top 3 ruthlessness, not sentiment.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Jack Ross has made us better, yes. But let’s be serious, it would’ve been hard to make us worse when he came in.

The guys dull as dishwater and his side epitomises it. No spark, no fight.

If he leaves tonight, no one will miss him.

Too many non performances and very very few really good ones.

Cant really argue with that.

[Hiber-nation]

Thought Hanlon was poor today in the way he dealt, or didn’t deal, with Wood.

He needed someone to settle him down, Hanlon just went in to his shell like the rest of them IMO.

I agree. He was awful today. Launched his first 2 balls straight to Utd players which set the tone. Has to lead by example. He's done it plenty of times in the past but certainly not today.

[Sir David Gray]

We were lazy, slow, selfish' - Ross
FT: Hibernian 0-3 Dundee United

Hibernian manager Jack Ross tells BBC Scotland: "We deserved what we got. We were nowhere near the levels we have been at and need to be at to win games. We were lazy, slow, selfish in a lot of our play. We were desperately poor and that isn't acceptable.

"It's a short sharp reminder to all of us. I'm really angry about it but I've got to gather myself and see why we produced that performance and make sure we don't replicate it."

Fair and honest assessment.

Next week's game at Pittodrie is now huge, we need to put on a performance next week and repay the fans for today and those who make the trip up there.

[Turkish Green]

I agree but I think it demonstrates that we have no-one on the bench who can come on and make any difference

The squad is thin in many areas but what surprises me is that Gogic was not brought on at HT to toughen up midfield. As we enter the winter months injuries will hit.

[JohnM1875]

Jack Ross has made us better, yes. But let’s be serious, it would’ve been hard to make us worse when he came in.

The guys dull as dishwater and his side epitomises it. No spark, no fight.

If he leaves tonight, no one will miss him.

Too many non performances and very very few really good ones.

Class, who we replacing him with?

Only a few weeks ago folk were raving about how good we were against the huns at Ibrox until the sending off. But no spark, no fight and dull as dishwater.

[scoopyboy]

It's his job yes.

Not what I asked

[Gerard]

How long does JR have as our HC?
Are there any potential people that could replace JR as the HC?

[Coco Bryce]

Is that really the priority at 2-0 down?

He’d be lynched by some if he did that.

I’m not defending him here as today was unacceptable and he had a lot to do with that. It’s just that I think his hands are tied somewhat.

Unfortunately I think we’ve got a long couple of months ahead of us as it’s not going to change.

Who said anything about him coming on at 2 down?

Should have been on at half time.

[Coco Bryce]

It's a part of his job.

Dundee Utd's captain is their keeper. Was he constantly organising and motivating their pressing game in the 1st half? He must have some voice!

He didn't need to. His team were doing their job properly. Unlike ours.

[gbhibby]

Agree with Jack Ross in his assessment. Shape and movement should be getting worked on in training. I have said before that we do work hard enough out of possession. Players need to take ownership of the ball, lack of control when the ball is passed to them. This performance has been coming for weeks. Hope it is a wake up call. Quite a few drills to be worked on before next game Jack Ross needs to earn his corn over the next week.

[Hiber-nation]

I've probably said this a hundred times but you have to wonder about the preparation. At least 4 players looked absolutely miles off it in the first half and I exclude the one who was supposedly suffering from jet lag.

In particular Cadden, Allan and worst of all Doyle-Hayes. How could they all start so poorly? It's been happening quite a bit in home games and I just don't get it. We should come flying out the blocks...why are we so passive?

[J-C]

Is that really the priority at 2-0 down?

He’d be lynched by some if he did that.

I’m not defending him here as today was unacceptable and he had a lot to do with that. It’s just that I think his hands are tied somewhat.

Unfortunately I think we’ve got a long couple of months ahead of us as it’s not going to change.

Gogic coming on would've allowed Newell and JDH to at least play with a bit more freedom.


Jack Ross has made us better, yes. But let’s be serious, it would’ve been hard to make us worse when he came in.

The guys dull as dishwater and his side epitomises it. No spark, no fight.

If he leaves tonight, no one will miss him.

Too many non performances and very very few really good ones.

Nail on the head, seen too many games like today, it's not a one off and he still doesn't know how to stop it happening which is a worry.

[Coco Bryce]

Not what I asked

I pointed out our club captain Hanlon doesn't take control or show any sort of motivation to his team and you answered with a pointless question?

[green day]

I agree but I think it demonstrates that we have no-one on the bench who can come on and make any difference

I agree, those picked in most position know they are bulletproof. Our crap recruitment and thin squad is at fault. Roll on January......

[Hibeesforever]

Problem today was that everything was passed wide...nothing went through the midfield...no one twos with strikers...few shots on target...pitiful really.

[I_Love_Latapy]

Im a big fan of JR but to make only 1 sub today was strange, we were crying out for a bit of steel in the middle of the park yet gogic stayed on the bench, or even keeping the same formation at the back, bring mcgregor on and go 3 at the back that we normally play, was just an all round crap day

Yeah I wondered about going 3 at back, taking Murphy off and attacking down the wings to get behind their midfield block. Bet he considered it.

[scoopyboy]

I pointed out our club captain Hanlon doesn't take control or show any sort of motivation to his team and you answered with a pointless question?

You obviously aren't getting it.

My point was it isn't only the captain that can drive players on and get better performances out of the players.

When David Gray was captain did it stop Darren McGregor doing the same things you are looking for?

I hope you get it this time.

[Smartie]

Who said anything about him coming on at 2 down?

Should have been on at half time.

There wasn’t much “ghosting” past midfielders going on in the first half.

First half we were poor, they arguably shaded it and you could argue they deserved their goal.

Gogic wasn’t the answer to any of our first half problems.

It’s easy to offer up alternatives with hindsight, but would you seriously stick Gogic on at 1-0 down?

He doesn’t get us back into the match, even if I’d rather stick anyone on than James Scott.

[Smartie]

Yeah I wondered about going 3 at back, taking Murphy off and attacking down the wings to get behind their midfield block. Bet he considered it.

I think a lot of what he does is find to cater for Murphy, who he obviously rates.

It seems to cause a few knock on problems for a few other players though.

[Coco Bryce]

You obviously aren't getting it.

My point was it isn't only the captain that can drive players on and get better performances out of the players.

When David Gray was captain did it stop Darren McGregor doing the same things you are looking for?

I hope you get it this time.

Don't patronise me.

David Gray was captain material as is Mcgregor.

Hanlon isn't thats my point. And no, we don't have another player in our team capable of this also so Hanlon needs to take some responsibility but doesn't.

[ClermistonGreen]

Never mind all your fancy theories and tactics .
An absolute disgrace and embarrassment !
Big TVs , warm water and fancy food crap
Get a decent football team on the park
Nothing else matters

[J-C]

Jeez, just watched the highlights (well lowlights) United were all over us, that really did look a very poor performance, things have to change rapidly or Ron may wants a change of manager if these results and performances continue.

[Hibernia&Alba]

It was stinking and totally unacceptable. Not often I leave before the final whistle, but that was really bad.

[dchibs]

Only good news from today was young Dylan Tait scored for Raith Rovers.

[dchibs]

Jeez, just watched the highlights (well lowlights) United were all over us, that really did look a very poor performance, things have to change rapidly or Ron may wants a change of manager if these results and performances continue.

Perhaps the next time Ross goes for a swap for St Mirren it'l be himself for Jim Goodwin.

[Jones28]

Jeez, just watched the highlights (well lowlights) United were all over us, that really did look a very poor performance, things have to change rapidly or Ron may wants a change of manager if these results and performances continue.

Surely it’s “this result”, not these results? A loss away to Rangers that tilted on an iffy sending off?

[MWHIBBIES]

Jeez, just watched the highlights (well lowlights) United were all over us, that really did look a very poor performance, things have to change rapidly or Ron may wants a change of manager if these results and performances continue.

Yeah, we must break the pattern of this one awful result.

[Hibiza]

Can't we replace the totally out of form ( for a long time,) Kevin Nisbet . James Scott is poor too. Give theyoung guys a chance ( couldn't do worse )

[J-C]

Surely it’s “this result”, not these results? A loss away to Rangers that tilted on an iffy sending off?

Are you forgetting the hammering given to us by St Mirren and Livi last season, apart from 30 mins at Ibrox we've been pretty rotten the last 3-4 games, this kind of performance isn't a one off, poor recruitment is coming back to bite us and there has to be question marks over Ross's coaching and game management.

[J-C]

Can't we replace the totally out of form ( for a long time,) Kevin Nisbet . James Scott is poor too. Give theyoung guys a chance ( couldn't do worse )

We couldn't even bring in a striker to compete with or play alongside Nisbet, so don't know who we're going to get, talk on here of maybe a new deal for Nisbet, does he justify that?

[MWHIBBIES]

Are you forgetting the hammering given to us by St Mirren and Livi last season, apart from 30 mins at Ibrox we've been pretty rotten the last 3-4 games, this kind of performance isn't a one off, poor recruitment is coming back to bite us and there has to be question marks over Ross's coaching and game management.

We beat St mirren 3 times out of 3 last season, so even you seen to have forgotten those results. We cannot hold results against the manager for a year. That's ridiculous.

[Nicho87]

Did we have one shot in the first half?

I still can’t believe what I witnessed

Soooo bad. Butcher, late fenlon type performance no cutting edge at all.

Ross play two up front even clarke at Scotland has grasped on to that now.

I’d play Boyle through the middle every week while doidge is out. Scott is absolute pony

[Hiber-nation]

Just watched the highlights. The lack of desire out there was really concerning. They were all over us like a rash and we were unbelievably passive.

[Not In The Know]

Is he clueless? Who on the bench today could have turned the game? I think he was let down by his recruitment team in the summer-Mathie paid the price for that. He can only piss with the cock he has!

last two years who have we signed that’s genuinely been a good exciting player?

Mathie’s ducked the squad up and today was proof.

[wookie70]

last two years who have we signed that’s genuinely been a good exciting player?

Mathie’s ducked the squad up and today was proof.

Nisbet, if he gets service and bodies round him is a great player. Other than that struggling. Murphy flatters to deceive but can be pretty good to watch. The squad is paper thin and at the moment we don't even have a decent 11 fit

[Ronniekirk]

That's as bad a half as we have had in the league under Ross.

Can still win this though

Famous last words


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[cannastar]

okay we had an off day but we as fans need to get behind the players and staff and club in general not turn against them cause in past experience when our fans start getting on the back of our players their heads drop and we are as well playing with one/two short. we have at times played good football particularly when we keep the ball on the floor and if we can get back to that im sure we will be succesful again. next few games will be tough most of them are away fixtures and the semi final against the rangers will also be tough though not impossible to achieve results but our players heads must be in the correct place to begin with.it is important for us as hibernian fans to back the team and be the twelfth man when ever possible to achieve success and keep the next generation of hibees coming to easter road. we are a great club and need new fans to continue this not deter the youngsters from attending but to keep them coming we need to provide entertainment that they will continue to come to view and in that respect i believe we need a supremely productive transfer window next time around and not just bargain basement buys. if we are serious we need ron to splash the cash and have proper quality squad players who can step in seamlessly for anyone injured or suspended as its plain to see we are lacking in that at the moment. :flag:

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

Did we have one shot in the first half?

I still can’t believe what I witnessed

Soooo bad. Butcher, late fenlon type performance no cutting edge at all.

Ross play two up front even clarke at Scotland has grasped on to that now.

I’d play Boyle through the middle every week while doidge is out. Scott is absolute pony

Apparently we had 3 shots in 2nd half. Not quite sure they were actual shots that caused any problems to their goalie right enough.

[Hibernia&Alba]

I didn't realise United had only scored five goals in their previous eight league games before today. Typical of us to give a struggling team a helping hand; here, we'll give you three goals on our pitch:rolleyes:.

[JohnM1875]

Apparently we had 3 shots in 2nd half. Not quite sure they were actual shots that caused any problems to their goalie right enough.

Nisbet hit the post and Murphy had a great shot deflected wide for a corner by the defender.

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

Nisbet hit the post and Murphy had a great shot deflected wide for a corner by the defender.

There's an extra one as a shot that hits the post is not on target. 🤔

[wookie70]

There's an extra one as a shot that hits the post is not on target. 🤔Did the Keeper get a touch

[JohnM1875]

There's an extra one as a shot that hits the post is not on target. 🤔

Can't really think of any other shots on target. Nisbet had a good chance near post with a header from a corner and Wood had a fantastic chance unmarked in the box again with a header.

I left on 85 minutes though so could easily have missed a few shots on target, though the way we were laying I doubt it.

[Heisenberg]

No chance. We're in freefall, skint, looking rudderless and there's no way we will attract anyone with a half decent reputation. We're actively trying to flog our "best" players to the highest bidder.

Anyone not worried about what is going on at our club needs to wake up.

**** off 😂

[Glory Lurker]

I'm glad United brought a decent support today. Are we bringing in many walk ups to supplement our lower number of STs this season?

We took a very ambitious approach over the summer, and last January even, by refusing to sell our most-wanted. Obviously I've no idea but I worry a bit that in strictly financial terms it's not paying off. It's supposition, I know, but are we likely to be in a position to fix things in January? And if we do, will it be down to loans from the parent company?

[Jones28]

Are you forgetting the hammering given to us by St Mirren and Livi last season, apart from 30 mins at Ibrox we've been pretty rotten the last 3-4 games, this kind of performance isn't a one off, poor recruitment is coming back to bite us and there has to be question marks over Ross's coaching and game management.

Are we talking about this season and this game in context? Because if we are, then yes I am. No question we have questions over recruitment, see the 1000 odd post thread on that subject.

[J-C]

Are we talking about this season and this game in context? Because if we are, then yes I am. No question we have questions over recruitment, see the 1000 odd post thread on that subject.

We have had quite a few very poor either 45 mins or full 90 mins this past season and a half, today's result and performance is not a one off which is all the worrying seeing as it's happened before and nothing has been done about it. We can on our day be very good with flowing attacking football and then we can put in insipid dire performances like today, in between we are averagely decent, January window is going to be huge for us if we want to be 3rd again.

[Feed McGraw]

Did the Keeper get a touch Pretty sure the keeper got a couple of fingertips on it.

[Andy74]

We have had quite a few very poor either 45 mins or full 90 mins this past season and a half, today's result and performance is not a one off which is all the worrying seeing as it's happened before and nothing has been done about it. We can on our day be very good with flowing attacking football and then we can put in insipid dire performances like today, in between we are averagely decent, January window is going to be huge for us if we want to be 3rd again.

A season and a half?! Good luck if you are waiting on a Hibs team with no bad performances over that period.

[Jones28]

We have had quite a few very poor either 45 mins or full 90 mins this past season and a half, today's result and performance is not a one off which is all the worrying seeing as it's happened before and nothing has been done about it. We can on our day be very good with flowing attacking football and then we can put in insipid dire performances like today, in between we are averagely decent, January window is going to be huge for us if we want to be 3rd again.

We had an off day today, a total stinker. They happen, we all have them. They happen over a season, to all but very few teams.

[wookie70]

Pretty sure the keeper got a couple of fingertips on it.

That is what I thought so it would be a shot on target

[matty_f]

Utter garbage today. Struggling to find anyone to give pass marks to, the biggest worry for me is that other than going like for like with the half time sub, the manager has stood and watched it without making another change.
We could still be playing now and not scored.
United were good, but we made them look much better.
Nowhere near good enough.

[JimBHibees]

Did the Keeper get a touch

Yes very good save

[JimBHibees]

Utter garbage today. Struggling to find anyone to give pass marks to, the biggest worry for me is that other than going like for like with the half time sub, the manager has stood and watched it without making another change.
We could still be playing now and not scored.
United were good, but we made them look much better.
Nowhere near good enough.

Agree horrible performance. Staggered no more subs put on. Would have given Gogic a run and probably Lewis also which would have raised the competitive level of the team. So passive and second to everything nowhere near good enough as you say. Really annoying it was so bad.

[Hulk1875]

I'm glad United brought a decent support today. Are we bringing in many walk ups to supplement our lower number of STs this season?

We took a very ambitious approach over the summer, and last January even, by refusing to sell our most-wanted. Obviously I've no idea but I worry a bit that in strictly financial terms it's not paying off. It's supposition, I know, but are we likely to be in a position to fix things in January? And if we do, will it be down to loans from the parent company?

After not being able too use new seats in east stand due to covid this season we can and today was first time I Couldn’t my b**ls freedom. This was left hand side of east stand

[Not In The Know]

Agree horrible performance. Staggered no more subs put on. Would have given Gogic a run and probably Lewis also which would have raised the competitive level of the team. So passive and second to everything nowhere near good enough as you say. Really annoying it was so bad.

The fact we are suggesting Gogic and Lewis should have come on to change the game is terrifying.

[Not In The Know]

Agree horrible performance. Staggered no more subs put on. Would have given Gogic a run and probably Lewis also which would have raised the competitive level of the team. So passive and second to everything nowhere near good enough as you say. Really annoying it was so bad.

The fact we are suggesting Gogic and Lewis should have come on to change the game is terrifying.

[ekhibee]

Unless the whole team had COVID and didn't tell anybody I can't really think of any other explanation for that type of performance, we were really awful. But DU, for me, played really well, and they have a young manager in his first managerial post who is learning all the time from all the teams they play as today's performance showed, IMO. They marked tight a lot of the game, which we certainly didn't, were fast on the break, efficient in our penalty box and put in a good shift. I don't usually like complimenting teams that are playing against Hibs, but I was quite impressed with them.

[Hulk1875]

Unless the whole team had COVID and didn't tell anybody I can't really think of any other explanation for that type of performance, we were really awful. But DU, for me, played really well, and they have a young manager in his first managerial post who is learning all the time from all the teams they play as today's performance showed, IMO. They marked tight a lot of the game, which we certainly didn't, were fast on the break, efficient in our penalty box and put in a good shift. I don't usually like complimenting teams that are playing against Hibs, but I was quite impressed with them.

👏🏻 Dundee United simply we’re better team great performance tactics what ever from them we were slow no
Creativity or that

[JimBHibees]

The fact we are suggesting Gogic and Lewis should have come on to change the game is terrifying.

It absolutely is however to me would clearly have improved what was there.

[matty_f]

👏🏻 Dundee United simply we’re better team great performance tactics what ever from them we were slow no
Creativity or that

United were everything we should have been yesterday. They had us where they wanted us from first whistle to last.

[Coco Bryce]

The fact we are suggesting Gogic and Lewis should have come on to change the game is terrifying.

Sadly, that's what it has come to.

[flash]

After a night of reflection I will add my tuppence worth.
1. The summer recruitment was an absolute disaster. It's arguable about Doyle-Hayes but none of the rest of them are anywhere near the standard required. Add to that our farcical last day antics it's little wonder the recruitment set up is being gutted.
2. Without Porto or Daz in the team we lack leadership and heart when things go against us. If Porto is out then Daz has to play.
3. The manager needs to up his tactical game. We are being out thought a bit too often.
4. If he won't put the subs on under any circumstances then put a few kids on the bench and just get the deadwood away from the first team altogether.
Hopefully McGinn and Magennis will be back for next week.

[MacBean]

our worst home defeat to them since 2009/10 2-4

It’s Uniteds biggest ever winning margin at Easter road

[Peevemor]

It’s United a biggest ever winning margin at Easter roadI remember them beating us 3-0 at ER in the mid 80s in a SC 2nd replay (ie. after 2 draws).

[easty]

After a night of reflection I will add my tuppence worth.
1. The summer recruitment was an absolute disaster. It's arguable about Doyle-Hayes but none of the rest of them are anywhere near the standard required. Add to that our farcical last day antics it's little wonder the recruitment set up is being gutted.
2. Without Porto or Daz in the team we lack leadership and heart when things go against us. If Porto is out then Daz has to play.
3. The manager needs to up his tactical game. We are being out thought a bit too often.
4. If he won't put the subs on under any circumstances then put a few kids on the bench and just get the deadwood away from the first team altogether.
Hopefully McGinn and Magennis will be back for next week.

Don’t agree with point 2 - where was that leadership and heart when the two of them played together when Hanlon was injured? Away in Rijeka, pumped. Away at Dundee, chucked the 3 points, lost a late equaliser.

Massively agree with point 3 though. I like Jack Ross, but when we need to change something he doesn’t have many ideas.

[jeffers]

After a night of reflection I will add my tuppence worth.
1. The summer recruitment was an absolute disaster. It's arguable about Doyle-Hayes but none of the rest of them are anywhere near the standard required. Add to that our farcical last day antics it's little wonder the recruitment set up is being gutted.
2. Without Porto or Daz in the team we lack leadership and heart when things go against us. If Porto is out then Daz has to play.
3. The manager needs to up his tactical game. We are being out thought a bit too often.
4. If he won't put the subs on under any circumstances then put a few kids on the bench and just get the deadwood away from the first team altogether.
Hopefully McGinn and Magennis will be back for next week.

Having previously said I don’t agree with many of your posts I do agree with this one. Only point I’d disagree with is point 2, IMO if you’d just said we lack leadership and heart when things go against us I’d have said you were spot on.

[MacBean]

I remember them beating us 3-0 at ER in the mid 80s in a SC 2nd replay (ie. after 2 draws).

Apologies meant to say in the league