Porto: Negative Press

[Steve88]

Hibs - as a club - better step up and start speaking up on the back of the whole 90 mins officiating yesterday and backing up Porto.

The amount of anti Porteous vile being spouted throughout the media today is awful and it will only enable the existing narrative against porto going forward, especially in big games.

[we are hibs]

Good luck with that one. Dignified silence or in other words being walked over is the Hibs way.

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[bingo70]

Hibs - as a club - better step up and start speaking up on the back of the whole 90 mins officiating yesterday and backing up Porto.

The amount anti Porteous vile being spouted throughout the media today is awful and it will only enable the existing narrative against porto going forward, especially in big games.

This is why I mentioned on the PM board I’d have liked to have seen Ross defend Porto a bit more.

I think he’s coming under attack from all quarters for a tackle that was perfectly fair. If no foul was given they’d have been praising it in his highlights reel.

I know Ross has said he didn’t think it was a foul but the tone of the interview was still that it was his own fault as he ‘gave the ref a decision to make’.

It was a sliding tackle he was perfectly entitled to make.

Would be nice to see the club defend him a bit more than he has been since the game.

[Steve88]

Good luck with that one. Dignified silence or in other words being walked over is the Hibs way.

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I'm sure Ron watched the match yesterday and with his background he surely has the ability to fight back and to your point, not be seen as weak..

[easty]

I'm sure Ron watched the match yesterday and with his background he surely has the ability to fight back and to your point, not be seen as weak..

What exactly would you like Ron to do?

[Leitherhibs]

Hibs - as a club - better step up and start speaking up on the back of the whole 90 mins officiating yesterday and backing up Porto.

The amount of anti Porteous vile being spouted throughout the media today is awful and it will only enable the existing narrative against porto going forward, especially in big games.


Steven Gerrard started this 'dirty player' agenda and is lapping up the rewards, man has no shame, some of the tackles he made in his career were 100 times worse.

[Hannah_hfc]

I knew after the incident the big bad Porto narrative would be wheeled out by Gerrard, the media and the hun masses post match.

Hibs can’t stay silent on this one while a young player gets slaughtered in the press.


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[MWHIBBIES]

Any examples of this actually working?

Honestly just rather we won the next match and beat Rangers in the semi.

[Steve88]

What exactly would you like Ron to do?

It's Ron's Club and as a result of that he can direct those employed employed in the club to take action/no action as directed.

As I said, my grievance here is about Hibs being walked over as a club, especially one player. It set's a bad precedent going forward and only further enables and strengthens any pre-existing narrative circulating in the media..

[Steve88]

I knew after the incident the big bad Porto narrative would be wheeled out by Gerrard, the media and the hun masses post match.

Hibs can’t stay silent on this one while a young player gets slaughtered in the press.


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This is my point. If we enable it for one player it gives the press free reign to do it going forward. The agenda of the press isn't to report the news (the facts) but to sell stories - There's a big difference in those two..

[easty]

It's Ron's Club and as a result of that he can direct those employed employed in the club to take action/no action as directed.

As I said, my grievance here is about Hibs being walked over as a club, especially one player. It set's a bad precedent going forward and only further enables and strengthens any pre-existing narrative circulating in the media..

What do you want Hibs to do? What action are you talking about?

Do you want him to tweet something like Romanov used to?

Do you want him to try to get on tv to talk about how we’re cheated?

Do you want him to contact the league to complain (but obviously make it public so we’re not seen to be “swallowing the narrative”)?


The weegie press is taking the standard weegie press action just now. Gerrards come out after the game, and in his wee ratty **** fashion he’s had a go at Porteous.

A few pundits on the telly have said it’s a bad challenge.

Is Porteous s really being slaughtered in the media? Not for me.

[scoopyboy]

My concern is Porto thinks enough is enough and there is no point in him playing in Scotland anymore.

I'm not sure how it would pan out if Hibs appealed the red, given the media coverage I don't think it is worth it.

[The Count]

Could see this ending up sometime in the future as the old senario of i am marked man in Scotland hence i am off to England.Did that not happen with Willie Young of Aberdeen and a few others.Suprisingly it never happened with Hun Centre halfs.

[easty]

My concern is Porto thinks enough is enough and there is no point in him playing in Scotland anymore.

I'm not sure how it would pan out if Hibs appealed the red, given the media coverage I don't think it is worth it.

I was under the impression he was looking to move on anyway? Half expected him to go in the summer, glad he stayed but thought he’ll prob be away after this season anyway,

[Key West]

If I was Ryan I would be thinking about a move down south, which is extremely sad in my opinion.

[DanishJohn]

My concern is Porto thinks enough is enough and there is no point in him playing in Scotland anymore.

I'm not sure how it would pan out if Hibs appealed the red, given the media coverage I don't think it is worth it.

Agree with you.

A Message from History

Think Big John McNamee. Big John had had enough. He thought he was a marked man in Scotland. Knew he had to get out.
Went to Newcastle and won a Fairs Cup/Uefa medal. Brilliant big centre half.

Porteous needs to be more clever but feel he might be better protected in England. And treated with fairness.

[The Count]

For whats its worth i also think Skippy is being vindictive against a young player just because Porto had the temerity to speak back to him last season at Easter Road.The language Skippy is using is a disgrace and says a more about him than Porto.

[Billy Whizz]

For whats its worth i also think Skippy is being vindictive against a young player just because Porto had the temerity to speak back to him last season at Easter Road.The language Skippy is using is a disgrace and says a more about him than Porto.

Don’t think we’ve ever commented on Morelos shocking behaviour, maybe we should

[norhfc]

He’s a marked man due to Slippy G being allowed to spout his pish anytime he feels like it. The Scottish media lap it up, it’s all over social media so certain refs make their mind up without taking that extra few seconds to consider the offence. The linesman was very near and didn’t flag. Porto has history with them and everyone knows it. There where other decisions in that game that need explained too, All this will be in the media the week before the semi just to put the pressure on us, it’s so predictable and wrong.

[Geo_1875]

Unfortunately we'd get no support from the press if we defended our defender. The Rangers went to war over Morelos and the press backed them to the hilt. His behaviour has not changed, simply his treatment from referees, yet they praise him as a reformed character.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Don’t think we’ve ever commented on Morelos shocking behaviour, maybe we should

It’s a weird one - Morelos was criticised in the papers for a while but now rarely anything is said, despite the fact he’s still as reckless and petulant as he’s always been.

You’d think they’d turned around his behaviour but all that’s really happened is they’ve stopped talking and writing about it and refs have stopped punishing it. Money talks.

[B.H.F.C]

Any examples of this actually working?

Honestly just rather we won the next match and beat Rangers in the semi.

The Rangers have built a picture of Porteous as being some kind of thug. He’s not. He got sent off yesterday because who he is and what has went before IMO. They have repeatedly attacked him publicly and we should have been going all out to defend our player from the unjust reputation they have created for him.

[MWHIBBIES]

The Rangers have built a picture of Porteous as being some kind of thug. He’s not. He got sent off yesterday because who he is and what has went before IMO. They have repeatedly attacked him publicly and we should have been going all out to defend our player from the unjust reputation they have created for him. Yeah, but would this even work the other way around? I honestly think the only thing to do is encourage Ryan to stay up more often, win it cleanly without going to ground, and get it right up this ****ing mob next time.

[greenginger]

What exactly would you like Ron to do?


How about getting our our video production team to put together some clips of yesterday’s game that our media ignored. Add in a few of the previous incidents involving Morelos and others.
Highlight stats like 70 games since the Rangers had a player sent off in a domestic fixture yet 5 sent off in 7 Euro matches.

Don’t make it look like a Club production , and get people on here to copy it to every every football website and sports paper we can think of.

[DanishJohn]

He’s a marked man due to Slippy G being allowed to spout his pish anytime he feels like it. The Scottish media lap it up, it’s all over social media so certain refs make their mind up without taking that extra few seconds to consider the offence. The linesman was very near and didn’t flag. Porto has history with them and everyone knows it. There where other decisions in that game that need explained too, All this will be in the media the week before the semi just to put the pressure on us, it’s so predictable and wrong.

Sorry if this has already been covered.

Talking about the linesman.....

Just before their first goal had the throw in not been awarded to Hibs ?
Why did the referee or linesman step in and stop the Rangers player taking it or just stop the play?

[007]

The Rangers have built a picture of Porteous as being some kind of thug. He’s not. He got sent off yesterday because who he is and what has went before IMO. They have repeatedly attacked him publicly and we should have been going all out to defend our player from the unjust reputation they have created for him.

Plus no mention in the media of Barisic trying to break Boyle's jaw then feining injury so he doesn't get punished.

[worcesterhibby]

The Rangers have built a picture of Porteous as being some kind of thug. He’s not. He got sent off yesterday because who he is and what has went before IMO. They have repeatedly attacked him publicly and we should have been going all out to defend our player from the unjust reputation they have created for him.

All that would do is ramp it up more, if Hibs issues a Statement the papers would print two lines of it then wheel out 5 or 6 Rangers minded commentators to disagree with what we have said and do a hatchet job on Porteous...you can't win when the game is fixed.

[Hermit Crab]

Somebody posted a collage on twitter last night of Gerrards shocking 'leg breaker' tackles. There was about 6 of them. Just show them to SFA panel...

[EI255]

Kris Commons.... Step forward you wxxxxxr

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[bingo70]

Plus no mention in the media of Barisic trying to break Boyle's jaw then feining injury so he doesn't get punished.

Not the same thing but in terms of similar inconsistencies, Allan booked for dissent, Hagi allowed to get away with it.

Compared Barisic foul to McGinns yellow card and tell me what one is worse?

[147lothian]

Has any press outlet said that Porteous 100% won the ball and the the ref may have been influenced by the crowd?

[Peevemor]

The Rangers have built a picture of Porteous as being some kind of thug. He’s not. He got sent off yesterday because who he is and what has went before IMO. They have repeatedly attacked him publicly and we should have been going all out to defend our player from the unjust reputation they have created for him.

Where have they done this and who gives a toss apart from them?

[Danderhall Hibs]

Where have they done this and who gives a toss apart from them?

Post match interviews and in the papers. The referees have taken a keen interest.

[B.H.F.C]

Where have they done this and who gives a toss apart from them?

They’ve repeatedly spoken about him publicly, including yesterday.

[Alfred E Newman]

Don’t think we’ve ever commented on Morelos shocking behaviour, maybe we should

He should have been spoken to or booked for his late tackle on Porteous prior to the sending off.

[Northernhibee]

Porto was the second Hibs player to humiliate Tavernier and Gerrard hasn’t gotten over it.

[GRA]

Porto frustrates me immensely. He's been fantastic for us at the back this season but is prone to making rash challenges every 10 games or so, putting him at risk of receiving a red, which the west coast media lap up. If he cuts out the rashness he will be a top, top player. But he's prone to making those types of challenges that give the ref a decision to make. Needs to be a bit more streetwise, especially when yesterday he could have easily cleared the ball by standing his ground.

That said, from the refs angle there is no way he can conclusively make a snap decision to send him off. He was clearly influenced by the crowd, Porto's history and couldn't wait to dish out a red.

[Weegreenman]

I’m sorry to go against the narrative here but Porto is his own worst enemy.
The lad has let himself down on several occasions, he needs to learn from all this or he’s going to become a liability’

Take the green specs off for moment folks and realise that sending off cost us three points yesterday.

We were cheated but it was by our own doing.

Porto has been on a good run of form lately, hopefully when he gets back in, he can carry on that form but also carry the knowledge and that little bit more experience to make better decisions.

[B.H.F.C]

I’m sorry to go against the narrative here but Porto is his own worst enemy.
The lad has let himself down on several occasions, he needs to learn from all this or he’s going to become a liability’

Take the green specs off for moment folks and realise that sending off cost us three points yesterday.

We were cheated but it was by our own doing.

Porto has been on a good run of form lately, hopefully when he gets back in, he can carry on that form but also carry the knowledge and that little bit more experience to make better decisions.

How can we be cheated but it be his own doing? You are either at fault or you’re not.

[BegbieHSC]

Gerrard’s comments are absolutely disgraceful, and need called out by Hibs.

He is using his stature in the game to repeatedly target a young defender of ours, which has built up an unfair narrative, portraying him as a thug.I’m sure Porto would never say so, but it’s borderline workplace harassment.

Imagine, just imagine Paterson got sent off yesterday, and Jack Ross said the same? There would be talk about him getting a touch line ban.

Ultimately, Gerrard is damaging Porto’s career with this strange, obsessive vendetta. Because of his playing career, Gerrard is respected down south, and his repeated unfair criticism of Porto will ultimately impact on teams down south making a move on him.

Domestically up here, because Gerrard is repeatedly pushing this invented narrative, referees when they see Porto going to ground in a completely legal slide tackle, there will be a degree of unconscious (or conscious) bias about whether he’s flown in with intent, and needs sent off. SG has effectively stopped Porto from putting any kind of slide tackle (which are legal) in the semi, without fear of being ordered off. This is a clear example of SG using his sporting gravitas to a competitive advantage.

I had respect for Gerrard as a player, but now as a manager absolutely none. For a league where Malky Mackay is a manager, Gerrard stands out as the least dignified.

Pedro, Warburton, Murty, McColl, McCoist - they’d never behave the way Gerrard is right now. The sooner our league is rid of him, and he moves on down south the better.

I’m actually really disappointed Hibs haven’t called out his comments yesterday already. Hibs need to publicly defend their player, and call out Gerrard’s comments for what they are: obsessive, inaccurate and lacking dignity and self restraint.

[LongJohnBanger]

This is why I mentioned on the PM board I’d have liked to have seen Ross defend Porto a bit more.

I think he’s coming under attack from all quarters for a tackle that was perfectly fair. If no foul was given they’d have been praising it in his highlights reel.

I know Ross has said he didn’t think it was a foul but the tone of the interview was still that it was his own fault as he ‘gave the ref a decision to make’.

It was a sliding tackle he was perfectly entitled to make.

Would be nice to see the club defend him a bit more than he has been since the game.

The 'gave the ref a decision to make' angle is one I have difficulty with.

Aribo - booked, commits later fouls, no further booking
Barisic - Dives, commits three fouls, receives one booking
Tackle on Doig - No booking

Other players gave the referee a decision to make and the referee came to a completely opposite, some might argue beneficial to the home team, decision.

[Weegreenman]

Porto frustrates me immensely. He's been fantastic for us at the back this season but is prone to making rash challenges every 10 games or so, putting him at risk of receiving a red, which the west coast media lap up. If he cuts out the rashness he will be a top, top player. But he's prone to making those types of challenges that give the ref a decision to make. Needs to be a bit more streetwise, especially when yesterday he could have easily cleared the ball by standing his ground.



That said, from the refs angle there is no way he can conclusively make a snap decision to send him off. He was clearly influenced by the crowd, Porto's history and couldn't wait to dish out a red.

The linesman and refs are mic’d up, how do we know there wasn’t communication between them?

Seriously clutching at straws saying we were cheated by that decision to send him off. By your own admittance you’ve said Porto is prone to making rash tackles. Well yesterday was just another one. There is no defence. Hibs.net has become a forum that you dare not go against the narrative or else. It’s pathetic and something I’d expect from an Old Firm forum.

[Crab apple]

Gerrard’s comments are absolutely disgraceful, and need called out by Hibs.

He is using his stature in the game to repeatedly target a young defender of ours, which has built up an unfair narrative, portraying him as a thug.I’m sure Porto would never say so, but it’s borderline workplace harassment.

Imagine, just imagine Paterson got sent off yesterday, and Jack Ross said the same? There would be talk about him getting a touch line ban.

Ultimately, Gerrard is damaging Porto’s career with this strange, obsessive vendetta. Because of his playing career, Gerrard is respected down south, and his repeated unfair criticism of Porto will ultimately impact on teams down south making a move on him.

Domestically up here, because Gerrard is repeatedly pushing this invented narrative, referees when they see Porto going to ground in a completely legal slide tackle, there will be a degree of unconscious (or conscious) bias about whether he’s flown in with intent, and needs sent off. SG has effectively stopped Porto from putting any kind of slide tackle (which are legal) in the semi, without fear of being ordered off. This is a clear example of SG using his sporting gravitas to a competitive advantage.

I had respect for Gerrard as a player, but now as a manager absolutely none. For a league where Malky Mackay is a manager, Gerrard stands out as the least dignified.

Pedro, Warburton, Murty, McColl, McCoist - they’d never behave the way Gerrard is right now. The sooner our league is rid of him, and he moves on down south the better.

I’m actually really disappointed Hibs haven’t called out his comments yesterday already. Hibs need to publicly defend their player, and call out Gerrard’s comments for what they are: obsessive, inaccurate and lacking dignity and self restraint.

I don't think it's right that Slippy is commenting on other players and in particular the way he is demonising Porto is disgraceful. We should politely tell him to STFU.

[leith lynx]

Agree with you.

A Message from History

Think Big John McNamee. Big John had had enough. He thought he was a marked man in Scotland. Knew he had to get out.
Went to Newcastle and won a Fairs Cup/Uefa medal. Brilliant big centre half.

Porteous needs to be more clever but feel he might be better protected in England. And treated with fairness.
Great comments, Ryan Porteous is not a dirty player, plays for the Jersey, will be a sad day for Hibs if he goes down the Mcnamee route.

[DanishJohn]

The linesman and refs are mic’d up, how do we know there wasn’t communication between them?

Seriously clutching at straws saying we were cheated by that decision to send him off. By your own admittance you’ve said Porto is prone to making rash tackles. Well yesterday was just another one. There is no defence. Hibs.net has become a forum that you dare not go against the narrative or else. It’s pathetic and something I’d expect from an Old Firm forum.

So what's your opinion then on Rangers first goal ?

My understanding is a throw in had been awarded to Hibs. Now the ref and linesman are mic'd up. They allow a Rangers player to take the throw in and they don't stop the play.

So, what happened then ?

[Since90+2]

I like Ross as a manager but I think he needs to be a bit more streetwise when dealing with stuff like that.

He should be pushing back on it and saying the crowd impacted the decision, he's not sure if it was a rangers player if he'd have been sent off ect. Anything that might just nudge a 5050 decision in our favour next time we play.

Ross is a straight talker but I do wish he'd play the game a little bit more.

[HibsGW]

I’m sorry to go against the narrative here but Porto is his own worst enemy.
The lad has let himself down on several occasions, he needs to learn from all this or he’s going to become a liability’

Take the green specs off for moment folks and realise that sending off cost us three points yesterday.

We were cheated but it was by our own doing.

Porto has been on a good run of form lately, hopefully when he gets back in, he can carry on that form but also carry the knowledge and that little bit more experience to make better decisions.

His sending off did cost us points but that’s not his problem. This rubbish about “gives the ref a decision to make” implies that all of our defenders should just stand infront of the ball and do nothing physical all game, good luck doing that against Rangers and Celtic. Nothing wrong with the tackle, the ref is the problem here.

[Weegreenman]

So what's your opinion then on Rangers first goal ?

My understanding is a throw in had been awarded to Hibs. Now the ref and linesman are mic'd up. They allow a Rangers player to take the throw in and they don't stop the play.

So, what happened then ?

I’ve just seen the highlights. It shows Rangers attacking from midfield and out to the wing were Barosic was allowed loads of space to deliver a free cross into the box, the ball then gets recycled to Paterson were once again he’s been given loads of time and space to cross the ball in for Roofe to head home.
FWIW Darren McGregor’s positioning was very poor. He’s at least two yards deeper than our defensive line, playing Roofe onside. Very disappointing indeed.

It hasn’t shown anything that your on about but it wouldn’t surprise me and it shouldn’t surprise our players.

[Weegreenman]

His sending off did cost us points but that’s not his problem. This rubbish about “gives the ref a decision to make” implies that all of our defenders should just stand infront of the ball and do nothing physical all game, good luck doing that against Rangers and Celtic. Nothing wrong with the tackle, the ref is the problem here.

Rubbish

[BegbieHSC]

I’m sorry to go against the narrative here but Porto is his own worst enemy.
The lad has let himself down on several occasions, he needs to learn from all this or he’s going to become a liability’

Take the green specs off for moment folks and realise that sending off cost us three points yesterday.

We were cheated but it was by our own doing.

Porto has been on a good run of form lately, hopefully when he gets back in, he can carry on that form but also carry the knowledge and that little bit more experience to make better decisions.

The only narrative I see is the one ****bag Gerrard has built, to his club’s benefit, and our club and Porto’s detriment. SG is in the wrong, and needs called out. Again, he’s using his stature in the game to repeatedly target and harass one of our own, and it’s not on!

[Heisenberg]

Rubbish

So explain why Lundstram got away with a worse challenge than Porteous?

[CMurdoch]

The only person that can change the narrative is Ryan. I reckon the linesman has called the decision yesterday. His view is damning. I don't think the referee sees it.
Ryan needs to make better decisions. He often tries to do too much in a tackle and this was one such occasion.
His at speed slide tackle was misjudged so badly his front foot flew past the ball before eventually making contact with the ball with the back of his leg.
Daz in the same situation would have remained upright and simply put his foot right through the centre of the ball. Ryan should have done the same.

What is true is that he has made an enemy of Gerrard after disrespecting him and Gerrard hasn't forgotten about that and is putting the boot in when Ryan sets him up with an open goal.

The bottom line is Ryan's decision cost us a game in which we were in the box seat, a goal up, playing well with the opposition causing us zero problems.
The upside is the players will know they can beat Rangers in the SF.

[CMurdoch]

So explain why Lundstram got away with a worse challenge than Porteous?

Do you have footage of it that we can look at?

[tynehibs]

I’ve just seen the highlights. It shows Rangers attacking from midfield and out to the wing were Barosic was allowed loads of space to deliver a free cross into the box, the ball then gets recycled to Paterson were once again he’s been given loads of time and space to cross the ball in for Roofe to head home.
FWIW Darren McGregor’s positioning was very poor. He’s at least two yards deeper than our defensive line, playing Roofe onside. Very disappointing indeed.

It hasn’t shown anything that your on about but it wouldn’t surprise me and it shouldn’t surprise our players.

Rubbish

[chrisski33]

No point moaning in the press nothing will change. Best do the talking on the pitch and beat them in the semi

[Danderhall Hibs]

Do you have footage of it that we can look at?

Log into you hibs tv mate - full game will be available for you to see it again.

[MWHIBBIES]

Have to say that the ''kid is not learning'' line is absolutely infuriating. Who the **** does that **** think he is?

[allmodcons]

My concern is Porto thinks enough is enough and there is no point in him playing in Scotland anymore.

I'm not sure how it would pan out if Hibs appealed the red, given the media coverage I don't think it is worth it.

Do you know Ryan Scoopy?

Is this just a gut instinct or have you heard him talk about moving?

Absolute travesty if he thinks it's best to move because of a welt like Gerrard and a press that is nothing short of a national disgrace.

[Since90+2]

https://twitter.com/hibbysmurf/status
/1444772480594456584?s=21

Honestly, anyone who thinks thats a red card is a clown.

[allmodcons]

The only person that can change the narrative is Ryan. I reckon the linesman has called the decision yesterday. His view is damning. I don't think the referee sees it.
Ryan needs to make better decisions. He often tries to do too much in a tackle and this was one such occasion.
His at speed slide tackle was misjudged so badly his front foot flew past the ball before eventually making contact with the ball with the back of his leg.
Daz in the same situation would have remained upright and simply put his foot right through the centre of the ball. Ryan should have done the same.

What is true is that he has made an enemy of Gerrard after disrespecting him and Gerrard hasn't forgotten about that and is putting the boot in when Ryan sets him up with an open goal.

The bottom line is Ryan's decision cost us a game in which we were in the box seat, a goal up, playing well with the opposition causing us zero problems.
The upside is the players will know they can beat Rangers in the SF.

That's just not true. Boyle is diver and Ryan is a dirty *******. Say it often enough and it sticks. There is very little either player can do about the 'narrative'.

[Ringothedog]

https://twitter.com/hibbysmurf/status
/1444772480594456584?s=21

[500miles]

So explain why Lundstram got away with a worse challenge than Porteous?

This one?

[BegbieHSC]

Do you know Ryan Scoopy?

Is this just a gut instinct or have you heard him talk about moving?

Absolute travesty if he thinks it's best to move because of a welt like Gerrard and a press that is nothing short of a national disgrace.


The thing is, the most likely destination for Porto would traditionally be England. Another reason why Gerrard is such a ****bag is because he is so respected down there, clubs could be listening to his slavering vendetta against Porto, and looking elsewhere as a result. Gerrard's obsession with him could be having a negative impact on his career. Hibs need to be calling Gerrard out for the p.o.s that he his.

[Ringothedog]

Because it is The Huns pure and simple

[Heisenberg]

This one?

The very same. I’ve not seen footage again but the stills don’t make it look any better than I thought at the time.

[BegbieHSC]

This one?

Studs are up and he's out of control.

[500miles]

The very same. I’ve not seen footage again but the stills don’t make it look any better than I thought at the time.

I've managed to clip the video, but can't upload it.

[Danderhall Hibs]

This one?

Yeah that’s the one - that’s a career ender that one.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Funny how Gerrard has forgotten some of his more....'choice' challenges

[Danderhall Hibs]

Funny how Gerrard has forgotten some of his more....'choice' challenges

He did mention them in the interview.

[allmodcons]

This one?

I don't think that's a sending off but we didn't even get a free kick :confused:

[easty]

How about getting our our video production team to put together some clips of yesterday’s game that our media ignored. Add in a few of the previous incidents involving Morelos and others.
Highlight stats like 70 games since the Rangers had a player sent off in a domestic fixture yet 5 sent off in 7 Euro matches.

Don’t make it look like a Club production , and get people on here to copy it to every every football website and sports paper we can think of.

Nah. I think when it eventually leaked that Hibs had made a video and put it out on the sly as if it was a fans thing, that’d be an utter embarrassment.

Hibs fans can do that without the club getting involved anyway.

It wouldn't achieve anything though. Large parts of the press and SFA would happily have let Rangers join the top league after they went bust. The Old Firm come first,and second and third and fourth in the list of priorities, the rest of us are just here to make up the numbers. They couldnae care less about our grievances, especially if they’re against Rangers or Celtc.

[HibsGW]

This one?

Ridiculous that anyone is defending the ref or siding against Porteous when stuff like this is right in front of your eyes.

[Heisenberg]

If Porteous goes off for his then this is a red card. Off the ground and studs up

https://twitter.com/scottyhibs/status/1444988120429178880?s=21

[Kato]

Well, that's worse than Porto's.

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[Tyler Durden]

They are both red cards. Lundstram's is worse.

[easty]

Well, that's worse than Porto's.

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Only before you take into consideration the variables. Porteous is playing for Hibs at Ibrox, so his tackle gets a multiplier. Lundstrom is at home for Rangers, in the league, with a *****bag weasel referee…and under those conditions, it was probably closer to being a foul in favour of Rangers, for Doig almost landing on him

[Kato]

Only before you take into consideration the variables. Porteous is playing for Hibs at Ibrox, so his tackle gets a multiplier. Lundstrom is at home for Rangers, in the league, with a *****bag weasel referee…and under those conditions, it was probably closer to being a foul in favour of Rangers, for Doig almost landing on himI did say earlier Doig goaded him. Best not kick up a fuss.

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[Torto7]

That and the Barasic challenge. Aribo, the dives. C'mon Hibs stand up for the club.

[CMurdoch]

I don't think that's a sending off but we didn't even get a free kick :confused:

I've just looked at it.
From the one angle available i think there is a case for a red card under the present system.
Lunging into the tackle with both feet off the ground and like the Porteous one it intimidates the opposing player causing him to take evasive action.
Only thing that makes it look better is that he accurately blocks the ball whereas Porteous misses the ball with his front foot and keeps travelling at speed.
Neither Cliff nor Pat seemed to notice it on the commentary.

[h1bs4life]

While I wouldn’t want Ron Gordon to speak it’s time for Ross to grow a pair and back his players .
Hughes calling Boyle diver no defence of player then Goodwin calling Porteous a diver no defence of the player .
It’s time he came out with not seen the replay yet but where I was in the dugout it looked like a penalty / not a sending off .
Later on he could be saying Porteous was not a sending off and there was a worse tackle on Doig.
Time he got street wise

[Steve88]

If Porteous goes off for his then this is a red card. Off the ground and studs up

https://twitter.com/scottyhibs/status/1444988120429178880?s=21

This is a brilliant example of the double standards - Jumping into a tackle, both feet of the ground.. I thought these tackles were an automatic red card, no?

Can Hibs report this to the SFA/Compliance officer ..?

[Coco Bryce]

This is why Porto will leave Scotland and play down South soon.

[Torto7]

While I wouldn’t want Ron Gordon to speak it’s time for Ross to grow a pair and back his players .
Hughes calling Boyle diver no defence of player then Goodwin calling Porteous a diver no defence of the player .
It’s time he came out with not seen the replay yet but where I was in the dugout it looked like a penalty / not a sending off .
Later on he could be saying Porteous was not a sending off and there was a worse tackle on Doig.
Time he got street wise

This 100 per cent. Jack is a nice guy and I'm glad he's our coach but he has to protect our players from the weirdos in the media who think they can take a pop and get away with it.

[Steve88]

What do you want Hibs to do? What action are you talking about?

Do you want him to tweet something like Romanov used to?

Do you want him to try to get on tv to talk about how we’re cheated?

Do you want him to contact the league to complain (but obviously make it public so we’re not seen to be “swallowing the narrative”)?


The weegie press is taking the standard weegie press action just now. Gerrards come out after the game, and in his wee ratty **** fashion he’s had a go at Porteous.

A few pundits on the telly have said it’s a bad challenge.

Is Porteous s really being slaughtered in the media? Not for me.

It's not my place to say what to do. My background isn't in PR/Marketing/Media etc.. and I certainly don't want to see a Romanov type response applied here

You say porteous isn't "really being slaughtered".. well unfortunately he is. He has been for months and has developed a bad reputation because of 1 awful tackle against the same team. As a result this narrative has been allowed to grow and grow and we continue to stay quiet.

Lundstram's tackle on Doig was far worse but if you do a search for that online you can barely find any comments on it. Why? Because the focus is on Porto and everyone is turning a blind eye to any other goings on in the match - I'd like to of seen us raise Lundstram's tackle to the public and trade some blows with Rangers over this but we stayed quiet..

[Steve88]

My concern is Porto thinks enough is enough and there is no point in him playing in Scotland anymore.

I'm not sure how it would pan out if Hibs appealed the red, given the media coverage I don't think it is worth it.

This hadn't crossed my mind but It's a real possibility..

[HibsGW]

Rubbish

Which bit do you disagree with? What’s your explanation for Llundstram not being sent off for an identical challenge (and again, not even a foul, same as Porteous’s should have been)

[Steve88]

I like Ross as a manager but I think he needs to be a bit more streetwise when dealing with stuff like that.

He should be pushing back on it and saying the crowd impacted the decision, he's not sure if it was a rangers player if he'd have been sent off ect. Anything that might just nudge a 5050 decision in our favour next time we play.

Ross is a straight talker but I do wish he'd play the game a little bit more.

He's a very rational person which is a rare attribute to find in someone and I wouldn't change it one bit but I'm similar to you, I'd like to see him be a bit sharper in these situations, fight back - not with irrational outbursts - but by trying to turn the agenda/narrative around post match in these situations

For what it's worth, can any of you imagine the Neil Lennon post match reaction after this if he was still in charge...:greengrin

[500miles]

Which bit do you disagree with? What’s your explanation for Llundstram not being sent off for an identical challenge (and again, not even a foul, same as Porteous’s should have been)

It's not identical, he makes heavy contact with Doig. The timing makes it much more reckless.

[HibsGW]

It's not identical, he makes heavy contact with Doig. The timing makes it much more reckless.

I think I’m trying too hard to be impartial and give the referee some benefit of the doubt and even still its a shambles

[Steve88]

No point moaning in the press nothing will change. Best do the talking on the pitch and beat them in the semi

Really disagree with this. Irrational post match rants aren't too clever, agreed. But staying quiet and/or somewhat giving a half answer can be interpreted as a sign of guilt/agreement with the issue in question (I'm not talking just about Porto here) which then further strengthens whatever underlying preconception exists.

[007]

This is a brilliant example of the double standards - Jumping into a tackle, both feet of the ground.. I thought these tackles were an automatic red card, no?

Can Hibs report this to the SFA/Compliance officer ..?

Does anyone know how the complaints work? I think I heard a pundit a while ago saying it doesn't have to be the club, it can be anyone. I remember thinking it seemed a little odd though as the CO would be inundated every week.

[Steve88]

Does anyone know how the complaints work? I think I heard a pundit a while ago saying it doesn't have to be the club, it can be anyone. I remember thinking it seemed a little odd though as the CO would be inundated every week.

No Idea, two seasons ago-ish (someone feel free to correct me on this) they changed their procedure on serious foul play didn't they? Almost every other week they were contradicting themselves with 3 match bans and then red cards being rescinded for the exact same challenge - Unsure what came out of that but didn't some heads role??

Procedure wise, like you say, interested to know if that's something the club can instigate or if it has to be one of the match officiators from the game..

[Allez Hibs]

Hibs - as a club - better step up and start speaking up on the back of the whole 90 mins officiating yesterday and backing up Porto.

The amount of anti Porteous vile being spouted throughout the media today is awful and it will only enable the existing narrative against porto going forward, especially in big games.Absolutely 100%

It is time for the club to stand up for itself and play games via gamesmanship ahead of big games and start behaving like a big club.

Yesterday was a disgrace. JR comments were a disgrace.

[easty]

Absolutely 100%

It is time for the club to stand up for itself and play games via gamesmanship ahead of big games and start behaving like a big club.

Yesterday was a disgrace. JR comments were a disgrace.

Dramatic.

[Peevemor]

Absolutely 100%

It is time for the club to stand up for itself and play games via gamesmanship ahead of big games and start behaving like a big club.

Yesterday was a disgrace. JR comments were a disgrace.

They were anything but.

[Bangkok Hibby]

My favourite Hibs player. Said last year if he stays he's the next captain. Passion, strength, commitment. Our refs targetting him is the problem, not his passion?

[green with envy]

If Porteous goes off for his then this is a red card. Off the ground and studs up

https://twitter.com/scottyhibs/status/1444988120429178880?s=21

Wow! First time that i've seen this. That is a shocker and also should have been a red.

[He's here!]

This is why I mentioned on the PM board I’d have liked to have seen Ross defend Porto a bit more.

I think he’s coming under attack from all quarters for a tackle that was perfectly fair. If no foul was given they’d have been praising it in his highlights reel.

I know Ross has said he didn’t think it was a foul but the tone of the interview was still that it was his own fault as he ‘gave the ref a decision to make’.

It was a sliding tackle he was perfectly entitled to make.

Would be nice to see the club defend him a bit more than he has been since the game.


I agree wholeheartedly. I've watched this innumerable times from every angle available and cannot see why it was even deemed a foul. As you say, if play had simply continued (as it should have), the Sportscene panel would have highlighted the tackle as an example of Hibs taking impressive control of the game and praising how well timed it was. Instead we have the pundits talking about Porteous 'not being in control' and 'going in at speed' etc. Gerrard's comments especially sicken me.

[leith lynx]

While I wouldn’t want Ron Gordon to speak it’s time for Ross to grow a pair and back his players .
Hughes calling Boyle diver no defence of player then Goodwin calling Porteous a diver no defence of the player .
It’s time he came out with not seen the replay yet but where I was in the dugout it looked like a penalty / not a sending off .
Later on he could be saying Porteous was not a sending off and there was a worse tackle on Doig.
Time he got street wise

100%👍

[leith lynx]

I agree wholeheartedly. I've watched this innumerable times from every angle available and cannot see why it was even deemed a foul. As you say, if play had simply continued (as it should have), the Sportscene panel would have highlighted the tackle as an example of Hibs taking impressive control of the game and praising how well timed it was. Instead we have the pundits talking about Porteous 'not being in control' and 'going in at speed' etc. Gerrard's comments especially sicken me.
Hope Ryan rams it right up Gerrard with a last minute diving header winner in the semi🇺🇿

[flash]

Absolutely 100%

It is time for the club to stand up for itself and play games via gamesmanship ahead of big games and start behaving like a big club.

Yesterday was a disgrace. JR comments were a disgrace.

Every post a winner.

[silverhibee]

If Porteous goes off for his then this is a red card. Off the ground and studs up

https://twitter.com/scottyhibs/status/1444988120429178880?s=21

Shocking challenge, lunge feet of the ground, the kid could have broke the players leg, could have ended his career lad.

And this is why Jack Ross should have defended Ryan to the hilt, how f***ing hard is it to say, “ not had a chance to look at it again but from my view it looked like Ryan clearly won the ball” be f***ing cute about things Jack.

[Mr. Wonderful]

Shocking challenge, lunge feet of the ground, the kid could have broke the players leg, could have ended his career lad.

And this is why Jack Ross should have defended Ryan to the hilt, how f***ing hard is it to say, “ not had a chance to look at it again but from my view it looked like Ryan clearly won the ball” be f***ing cute about things Jack.

Keeping his hat in the ring for the rangers job in the future.

[bingo70]

Keeping his hat in the ring for the rangers job in the future.

I thought something similar.

I think it’s the Scotland job as his long term ambition so maybe not wanting to fall out with any of the big wigs at the SFA.

[easty]

Keeping his hat in the ring for the rangers job in the future.

What a **** of a post that is.

It’s bad enough having to read the drivel about “big games” but your post can get tae ****.

Honestly man…what a ****ing joke.

[Since90+2]

I thought something similar.

I think it’s the Scotland job as his long term ambition so maybe not wanting to fall out with any of the big wigs at the SFA.

I don't agree with that at all and to be honest it's quite disrespectful to Jack Ross to suggest that.

He is a very balanced and steady individual, which is a great attribute, and that is how he carries out his interviews.

He is basically never critical of referees or opposition players, it not his style at all, and Sunday was no different.

[staunchhibby]

That post re hat in the ring is nonsense

[Peevemor]

What a **** of a post that is.

It’s bad enough having to read the drivel about “big games” but your post can get tae ****.

Honestly man…what a ****ing joke.


I don't agree with that at all and to be honest it's quite disrespectful to Jack Ross to suggest that.

He is a very balanced and steady individual, which is a great attribute, and that is how he carries out his interviews.

He is basically never critical of referees or opposition players, it not his style at all, and Sunday was no different.


That post re hat in the ring is nonsense

It just goes to show that, for some posters, the anti-Ross sentiment is never far from the surface.

[bingo70]

What a **** of a post that is.

It’s bad enough having to read the drivel about “big games” but your post can get tae ****.

Honestly man…what a ****ing joke.

I personally don’t think it’s as bad a post as you’re suggesting.

Taking off the Hibs specs for a second, Scottish football is a small community and it’s very easy to burn a lot of bridges.

Staying within Scotland there are 3 obvious more lucrative jobs ahead of him, Celtic, Rangers and the Scotland national team. From his perspective, it makes sense not to say anything that would lead to him becoming unpopular with fans of those sides.

[bingo70]

I don't agree with that at all and to be honest it's quite disrespectful to Jack Ross to suggest that.

He is a very balanced and steady individual, which is a great attribute, and that is how he carries out his interviews.

He is basically never critical of referees or opposition players, it not his style at all, and Sunday was no different.

He was after the Aberdeen game at Pittodrie last year.

[B.H.F.C]

I don't agree with that at all and to be honest it's quite disrespectful to Jack Ross to suggest that.

He is a very balanced and steady individual, which is a great attribute, and that is how he carries out his interviews.

He is basically never critical of referees or opposition players, it not his style at all, and Sunday was no different.

Still annoyed at Ross for his comments, but I don’t think they were anything to do with him having an eye on future jobs or anything.

[Since90+2]

He was after the Aberdeen game at Pittodrie last year.

I can't remember that to honest but in general he's not a rant and raver or someone who complains about officials.

His interview on Sunday was pretty similar to the majority of interviews he's carried out in the past, I don't see how anyone can make the jump to suggest it's because he wants the Scotland or Rangers job.

[BegbieHSC]

The silence from the club is deafening.

[flash]

Keeping his hat in the ring for the rangers job in the future.
As others have said already you truly are the worst of posters.

[flash]

The silence from the club is deafening.

It won't be in private.

[flash]

I thought something similar.

I think it’s the Scotland job as his long term ambition so maybe not wanting to fall out with any of the big wigs at the SFA.

Seriously? Ffs.

[Peevemor]

The silence from the club is deafening.

Just as deafening as after the soft penalty we were awarded against St Johnstone. It works both ways.

[stantonhibby]

It just goes to show that, for some posters, the anti-Ross sentiment is never far from the surface.

Indeed

[Lago]

I thought something similar.

I think it’s the Scotland job as his long term ambition so maybe not wanting to fall out with any of the big wigs at the SFA.
First thing that crossed my mind when I listened to the interview, can/will Hibs challenge the red card I wonder?

[WhileTheChief..]

This is getting ridiculous now.

JR is scared of upsetting some Old Firm fans in case he wants a job at some point in the next 20 years?

We got man a sent off by mistake and now tin foil is sold out across the country as folk scream and shout conspiracy theories all over the place.

Absolutely mental some of the reactions on here since yesterday. Way too much Celtic minded nonsense getting spouted.

[blackpoolhibs]

I support Jack Ross 100%, but i do think he was an idiot for saying he could see why the ref sent him off.:rolleyes:

[Torto7]

This is getting ridiculous now.

JR is scared of upsetting some Old Firm fans in case he wants a job at some point in the next 20 years?

We got man a sent off by mistake and now tin foil is sold out across the country as folk scream and shout conspiracy theories all over the place.

Absolutely mental some of the reactions on here since yesterday. Way too much Celtic minded nonsense getting spouted.

Utter crap. The statistics are as clear a day. Open your eyes. Why mention Celtic btw? I find it incredible a Hibs fan could sit through all of the pish aimed at us post pitch invasion and claim its conspiracy. Laughable.

[Torto7]

I support Jack Ross 100%, but i do think he was an idiot for saying he could see why the ref sent him off.:rolleyes:


Me too. It was a sign of weakness unfortunately.

[Berwickhibby]

I have seen a few clips of the horrendous challenge on Josh Doig in the second minute ...is there someone computer savvy enough to send the clip to the compliance officer and make a complaint ...I would if the clip was a you tube clip that I could attach to an email.

[JimBHibees]

Keeping his hat in the ring for the rangers job in the future.

Ffs :faf:

[SteveHFC]

Appeal launched by Hibs.

Great news. :thumbsup:

[Kato]

Ffs :faf:

Exactly. He doesn't even wear a hat.

[Mikey_1875]

Paul Hanlon view on it post match - “Thought he won the ball cleanly at the time, he has obviously went in quite fast though and given the referee a decision to make. It’s one of those that could go either way”

One eye on the Rangers captaincy? I think there is a growing body of evidence that this wasn’t as clear cut a bad decision as people thought at the time.

We should definitely be challenging the inconsistencies between this and the Lundstrum/Barisic incidents though.The best way to go about that is up for debate but I don’t think our manager can be blamed for not bringing it up right away in a post match interview due to a whole host of factors (not directly asked about it, won’t have seen several replays of it it like the Porto incident, not an obvious flashpoint as no away fans/players up in arms about it at the time etc.)

The interpretation of JR comments on this incident in isolation have been blown (somehow) even further out of proportion.

[Steve88]

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1445056191365795851


Hibs appeal against Red card..

[JimBHibees]

Appeal launched by Hibs.

Great news. :thumbsup:

Not a chance that is getting overturned and hopefully there is no longer ban if unsuccessful. What suspension will Ryan get is it only one game or longer?

[JohnM1875]

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1445056191365795851


Hibs appeal against Red card..

Superb! Really didn't think we would appeal this. Glad we have.

[The dalmeny]

I don't agree with that at all and to be honest it's quite disrespectful to Jack Ross to suggest that.

He is a very balanced and steady individual, which is a great attribute, and that is how he carries out his interviews.

He is basically never critical of referees or opposition players, it not his style at all, and Sunday was no different.

:top marks

[Mikey_1875]

Good to see that an appeals been launched, I won’t hold my breath but hopefully we highlight the inconsistencies between this and the Lundstrum/Barisic incidents to strengthen our claim. It is more effective action than a few comments in a post match interview after we have taken a day to consider our position on it.

[Allant1981]

Cant believe that we have appealed it when JR clearly doesnt back his players and wants the celtic/rangers/scotland job in a few years

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1445056191365795851


Hibs appeal against Red card..

I hope they send them the Lundstram lunge on Doig as a comparison.

Either Porto’s gets rescinded or Lundstram gets a retrospective red also.

[WhileTheChief..]

Utter crap. The statistics are as clear a day. Open your eyes. Why mention Celtic btw? I find it incredible a Hibs fan could sit through all of the pish aimed at us post pitch invasion and claim its conspiracy. Laughable.

Total gash.

You sound like you've come here straight from Kerrydale Street with your Celtic minded paranoid BS.

[green day]

Cant believe that we have appealed it when JR clearly doesnt back his players and wants the celtic/rangers/scotland job in a few years

At the same time that some of us on here change allegiance to The Rangers too according to some last night :greengrin

[Largshibby]

I support Jack Ross 100%, but i do think he was an idiot for saying he could see why the ref sent him off.:rolleyes:

He should have followed it up by saying he couldn’t understand why Lundstrum wasn’t sent off for the Doig tackle which was even worse (even though we all know the reason why).

[Hannah_hfc]

I hope they send them the Lundstram lunge on Doig as a comparison.

Either Porto’s gets rescinded or Lundstram gets a retrospective red also.

The dream scenario is Porto wins the appeal and Lundstram gets the retrospective red.

The seethe from Ibrox would be incredible and it would make Gerrard look like even more of a clown.


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[Billy Whizz]

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1445056191365795851


Hibs appeal against Red card..

Least Hibs can do to support Ryan

[ian cruise]

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1445056191365795851


Hibs appeal against Red card..

That can't be correct as I've read on here we're a soft touch who are happy to lie down to the establishment and keep quiet in case we upset the SFA and Rangers, particularly as Ross is working his ticket to get a job there.

If we've launched an appeal it would suggest we calmly went about our business and followed the correct process, to prove we were wronged, and in turn that Ryan isn't a dirty player, rather than shouting to the media who largely would have blanked us or potentially twisted our words to further rile up the rangers and sell more papers? That can't be correct surely?

[ian cruise]

Least Hibs can do to support Ryan

An appeal would suggest they have?

[green day]

Least Hibs can do to support Ryan

In the full post match interview JR did say that Porteous had Hibs full support.

That has been lost in some of the noise in the last 24 hours.

[Since452]

In the full post match interview JR did say that Porteous had Hibs full support.

That has been lost in some of the noise in the last 24 hours.

The stick Ross was getting was pathetic to be honest

[easty]

The stick Ross was getting was pathetic to be honest

Absolutely. Dunno ehh some Hibs fans cannae wait to get on his back.

He’s doing a great job.

[Hibs90]

The stick Ross was getting was pathetic to be honest

So was your trolling to be honest

[bingo70]

Absolutely. Dunno ehh some Hibs fans cannae wait to get on his back.

He’s doing a great job.

Nobody is saying he isn’t 😂

Just to back track a little from my earlier comments, I just think not getting involved in almost petty squabbles with other clubs is the smart move when there’s a limited number of jobs ahead of the ones he is in.

It’s also entirely possible to think Ross is doing a very good job whilst not agreeing with 100% of the things he says or does.

With me being the obvious exception, nobody is right all the time, not even Jack Ross. That doesn’t mean that people hate him or want him sacked. I think he could have worded his post match comments better and defended the player more at the time.

I also think from his perspective, not getting into arguments with Rangers or the SFA is smart.

[Sir David Gray]

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1445056191365795851


Hibs appeal against Red card..

We've not a hope in hell of getting this overturned but glad we've at least put in an appeal.

[Torto7]

Total gash.

You sound like you've come here straight from Kerrydale Street with your Celtic minded paranoid BS.

Still obsessed with Celtic. Bizarre.

[Bishop Hibee]

Hibs staff need to be more savvy. Look at Gerrard putting the boot right in to sway future decisions when Porteous plays against Newco. Ross should have defended the challenge as fair and kept any misgivings to himself and spoke to Porteous privately. Far too nice. No chance the appeal will succeed given Ross and Hanlon claim to understand why their colleague got sent off.

[h1bs4life]

No idea where all the nonsense about Ross wanting other jobs etc comes from.
Ross seems a decent intelligent guy but gives to much to the press straight after the match .
He needs to buy himself time and come out with not seen a replay yet , that #### Gerard even used that after Morelos stamp on Porto.
His comments after the St Mirren penalty and yesterday’s sending off doesn’t help the players or the club.
Press never do us any favours and look to seize on and twist anything #### them.
If Ross isn’t happy with Porteous or any players on any incident back the player give the press nowt and do it behind closed doors

[DJ HIBBY]

Shock horror Porteous is Alex Raes pick for howler of the week on Clyde Superscoreboard. Utter fud of a man!

Edit - he’s now saying as stonewall of a red card you are likely to see and that there was malice in it too.

[MWHIBBIES]

Hibs must be half decent at these things, can't remember us losing an appeal like this. Hopefully we win again.

[green day]

Hibs must be half decent at these things, can't remember us losing an appeal like this. Hopefully we win again.

Not true, we are the establishments lapdogs

[Allez Hibs]

As others have said already you truly are the worst of posters.Every poster is entitled to their opinion on a fans forum full of opinion.

[eastmainsmsh]

We must be a threat to them and they know it refs media and ex huns horrible club like yams with no shame

[ancient hibee]

No idea where all the nonsense about Ross wanting other jobs etc comes from.
Ross seems a decent intelligent guy but gives to much to the press straight after the match .
He needs to buy himself time and come out with not seen a replay yet , that #### Gerard even used that after Morelos stamp on Porto.
His comments after the St Mirren penalty and yesterday’s sending off doesn’t help the players or the club.
Press never do us any favours and look to seize on and twist anything #### them.
If Ross isn’t happy with Porteous or any players on any incident back the player give the press nowt and do it behind closed doors

He did back Porteous.He did not think it was a foul and he was annoyed at the goals given away.

[green day]

He did back Porteous.He did not think it was a foul and he was annoyed at the goals given away.

Yes, you are right (if you listen to the full interview) but that doesnt play into certain peoples narratives.

[Allez Hibs]

This is getting ridiculous now.

JR is scared of upsetting some Old Firm fans in case he wants a job at some point in the next 20 years?

We got man a sent off by mistake and now tin foil is sold out across the country as folk scream and shout conspiracy theories all over the place.

Absolutely mental some of the reactions on here since yesterday. Way too much Celtic minded nonsense getting spouted.What's Celtic got to do with yesterday?

Jack Ross is manager of a big club. He should be savy enough in his comments to let everyone know that we are a club that is here to challenge and stand up for itself. Be streetwise.

[Billy Whizz]

You’d think Ryan was Sergio Ramos with the amount of abuse he’s getting from people outside Hibs
26 red cards later, and Ramos is lauded

[Allez Hibs]

Me too. It was a sign of weakness unfortunately.100%

[MWHIBBIES]

Every poster is entitled to their opinion on a fans forum full of opinion.

Na man. That's not the play here. I've been in your position where I'm getting stick and everyone disagrees with me. You are supposed to back yourself up with facts and they eventually hide behind the "I'm entitled to my opinion" line.

Good luck though, this is a toughie.

[James70]

Imagine the outcry if JR was to lambast a Rangers player the way that Gerrard has done to Ryan, especially with his own track record as a player. No manager should speak publicly about an opposing player like that.

[Billy Whizz]

Imagine the outcry if JR was to lambast a Rangers player the way that Gerrard has done to Ryan, especially with his own track record as a player. No manager should speak publicly about an opposing player like that.

Gerrard should be summoned to the SFA for his comments

[Sir David Gray]

Imagine the outcry if JR was to lambast a Rangers player the way that Gerrard has done to Ryan, especially with his own track record as a player. No manager should speak publicly about an opposing player like that.

Steven Gerrard's a ****** prick.

[flash]

Na man. That's not the play here. I've been in your position where I'm getting stick and everyone disagrees with me. You are supposed to back yourself up with facts and they eventually hide behind the "I'm entitled to my opinion" line.

Good luck though, this is a toughie.

Love it.

[Mr. Wonderful]

It just goes to show that, for some posters, the anti-Ross sentiment is never far from the surface.

Quite like JR but thanks for pigeon holing me there.

[Ozyhibby]

Hibs are right to appeal. I don’t think it’s a red card.

Ryan Porteous is also guilty of making a very stupid challenge. He is still showing no sign of learning in these situations. There was no need to go to ground in that tackle. He has the beating of the Rangers player easily there and he did not have to slide in or follow through on the tackle. It was immature and idiotic.
The ref has cost us the points but Porteous played his part. Time for him to grow up.


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[Peevemor]

Quite like JR but thanks for pigeon holing me there.I didn't mention anyone by name, but if the shoe fits...

[Pagan Hibernia]

Steven Gerrard's a ****** prick.

he’s someone I had a lot of respect for…

only question now is is he naturally an obnoxious prick or is it that club and its toxic effect on people?

[Allez Hibs]

Quite like JR but thanks for pigeon holing me there.Yep, the threads are certainly descending into that.

[Peevemor]

Yep, the threads are certainly descending into that.Nobody was quoted or mentioned by name, but you crack on.

[MWHIBBIES]

Hibs are right to appeal. I don’t think it’s a red card.

Ryan Porteous is also guilty of making a very stupid challenge. He is still showing no sign of learning in these situations. There was no need to go to ground in that tackle. He has the beating of the Rangers player easily there and he did not have to slide in or follow through on the tackle. It was immature and idiotic.
The ref has cost us the points but Porteous played his part. Time for him to grow up.


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He has showed many signs of learning. He is never going to not make a bad challenge. Zero reds last season

[Mr. Wonderful]

I thought something similar.

I think it’s the Scotland job as his long term ambition so maybe not wanting to fall out with any of the big wigs at the SFA.

That would make sense. He's definitely very intent on doing things in a professional manner with one eye on his future, he's spoken before about how short managers terms are and how quickly things can change, only right he's keeping his image up. Look at guys like Yogi who struggle to get gigs now

[Mr. Wonderful]

Nobody was quoted or mentioned by name, but you crack on.

Aside from the fact that you quoted a poster who was quoting my post? 😂 Are you OK?

[Peevemor]

Aside from the fact that you quoted a poster who was quoting my post? [emoji23] Are you OK?As I said, if the shoe fits.

[Mr. Wonderful]

As I said, if the shoe fits.

You made it fit, dumb dumb. 😂

[Peevemor]

You made it fit, dumb dumb. [emoji23]Very mature.

[Ozyhibby]

He has showed many signs of learning. He is never going to not make a bad challenge. Zero reds last season

That’s a bad decision rather than a bad challenge. He went to ground because he wanted to be the tough guy taking no prisoners. It’s the wrong decision. He can easily win that ball without doing so but chooses not to. It’s very stupid.
If he is learning then he wouldn’t still be doing it.


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[Kato]

That’s a bad decision rather than a bad challenge. He went to ground because he wanted to be the tough guy taking no prisoners. It’s the wrong decision. He can easily win that ball without doing so but chooses not to. It’s very stupid.
If he is learning then he wouldn’t still be doing it.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkMaybe he saw the sticky get away with his one and thought, that's the way the ref is going today, so fired in. It could well be that that is the basis of Hibs defence given RP doesn't touch his oppo whereas the sticky catches Doig.

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[MWHIBBIES]

That’s a bad decision rather than a bad challenge. He went to ground because he wanted to be the tough guy taking no prisoners. It’s the wrong decision. He can easily win that ball without doing so but chooses not to. It’s very stupid. If he is learning then he wouldn’t still be doing it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 100% its a bad decision, I agree with you fully. It is stupid. He is learning. No one has a good day at work every day. Learning is different from being the finished article. World class defenders still get red cards for silly mistakes.

[Steve88]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/craig-levein-bizarre-rangers-ryan-25137070

The irrationality of some continues, at Porto's expense..

[green day]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/craig-levein-bizarre-rangers-ryan-25137070

The irrationality of some continues, at Porto's expense..

Dont click the link, dont read the paper - its simple.

[Peevemor]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/craig-levein-bizarre-rangers-ryan-25137070

The irrationality of some continues, at Porto's expense..

What does he say about about banjoing a team mate during a match?

[ian cruise]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/craig-levein-bizarre-rangers-ryan-25137070

The irrationality of some continues, at Porto's expense..

Jesus that guy will say anything to stay relevant. Whether you think the Porteous tackle was a red or not it's nowhere near the worst tackle we've seen (the fact there's a debate over whether it's a red proves that) and the tackles when Levien was playing were far more "robust".

Using Collins and Harper as his examples shows how much Hibs live in his head. I imagine there are plenty Hearts fans who are shaking their heads at this nonsense, though of course a few will be loving it.

[Steve88]

Dont click the link, dont read the paper - its simple.

It's the easy option, but at times I don't like to bury my head in the sand to what other's are saying about my club

[Steve88]

For those that aren't so inlined to click on the link:

"I think that down the line, the next really horrific tackle where some player gets seriously injured, I think this could go to court.
"That's where I think this might head.
"If somebody makes a reckless challenge on another player, I think it could go beyond football.

"That's something we have to be very careful of.
"I think he (Porteous) just needs to have a look at the way he plays the game in that particular aspect of his football.
"He's a good player, he's got decent pace, he doesn't need to go to ground. I think he's got the tools to be a really good player but he needs to eradicate this from his game."

[Danderhall Hibs]

For those that aren't so inlined to click on the link:

"I think that down the line, the next really horrific tackle where some player gets seriously injured, I think this could go to court.
"That's where I think this might head.
"If somebody makes a reckless challenge on another player, I think it could go beyond football.

"That's something we have to be very careful of.
"I think he (Porteous) just needs to have a look at the way he plays the game in that particular aspect of his football.
"He's a good player, he's got decent pace, he doesn't need to go to ground. I think he's got the tools to be a really good player but he needs to eradicate this from his game."

That’s just a copy and paste from sportsound last night - the written word always sounds worse than the spoken.

[DanishJohn]

Brown v Pelosi court action

Think that was based on contact. Ryan Porteous didn't make contact. The Rangers player or others could allege he did (dangerous for them to do that though)

[JimBHibees]

Brown v Pelosi court action

Think that was based on contact. Ryan Porteous didn't make contact. The Rangers player or others could allege he did (dangerous for them to do that though)

Yes Browns career was ended by a two footed over the top challenge which caused significant injury as far as I remember which was deemed to be deliberate. Not exactly the same thing to a player mistiming a tackle.

[CropleyWasGod]

Yes Browns career was ended by a two footed over the top challenge which caused significant injury as far as I remember which was deemed to be deliberate. Not exactly the same thing to a player mistiming a tackle.

Weirdly, I was talking about this over the weekend. Jim is an old work colleague.

My son and I were talking about how difficult it must have been to prove his case in Court. How do you prove that a tackle was intended to be a leg-breaker, for example?

As it happens, there was no actual judgement in his case. There was an out-of-court settlement.

[silverhibee]

What does he say about about banjoing a team mate during a match?

Life with no parole.

[Eyrie]

Weirdly, I was talking about this over the weekend. Jim is an old work colleague.

My son and I were talking about how difficult it must have been to prove his case in Court. How do you prove that a tackle was intended to be a leg-breaker, for example?

As it happens, there was no actual judgement in his case. There was an out-of-court settlement.

There will be grey areas when tackling, unlike blatant stamps on an opponent's knee.

[WoreTheGreen]

Yes Browns career was ended by a two footed over the top challenge which caused significant injury as far as I remember which was deemed to be deliberate. Not exactly the same thing to a player mistiming a tackle.

A account by trade

[CropleyWasGod]

A account by trade

Retired IFA.

[neil7908]

What does he say about about banjoing a team mate during a match?

That later in life you get to become a Harry Potter lookalike, manage a pish football team and become a renowned tactical genius who invents a new formation with 0 forwards.

[hibsbollah]

That later in life you get to become a Harry Potter lookalike, manage a pish football team and become a renowned tactical genius who invents a new formation with 0 forwards.

…and locks himself in a Dundee cludgie, through paralysing fear of being trophyless for the rest of his days, while letting down his teammates when all they need is a mere draw against meek opposition.

[Iggy Pope]

…and locks himself in a Dundee cludgie, through paralysing fear of being trophyless for the rest of his days, while letting down his teammates when all they need is a mere draw against meek opposition.

Got his hole regularly in Gorgie as well! :greengrin

[hibsbollah]

Got his hole regularly in Gorgie as well! :greengrin

…but I’ve never been on the pan in Dundee. And he’s a hertz ****. And so there the similarities end :greengrin

[PatHead]

…and locks himself in a Dundee cludgie, through paralysing fear of being trophyless for the rest of his days, while letting down his teammates when all they need is a mere draw against meek opposition.

Dundee were not a meek opposition. The rest is right though.

[JimBHibees]

Weirdly, I was talking about this over the weekend. Jim is an old work colleague.

My son and I were talking about how difficult it must have been to prove his case in Court. How do you prove that a tackle was intended to be a leg-breaker, for example?

As it happens, there was no actual judgement in his case. There was an out-of-court settlement.

Ok didn't realise there hadn't been a judgement. Assume there was evidence from witnesses at the game including players and if camera footage perceived footballing experts could have given their view on the intent in the tackle.

[Peevemor]

Wise words from Mickey


Ryan Porteous should seek the advice I was given as a rash young Hibs player

We’ll never know if Hibs would have gone on to win the game, but there’s no doubt it was a turning point and a massive blow to the players at a stage when they were ahead and controlling the game.

I have no issues with the decision – I thought it was a red card. It was just rash and it wasn't needed. I don’t think he meant to cause any harm to Joe Aribo, it was just a solid challenge, but unfortunately he's made the referee's mind up for him. In front of 50,000 home fans, there was no way that he wasn't going to send him off.


It handed Rangers the impetus but even after that I still felt we were capable of holding out or at least getting something from the game.

I think Ryan has got to be led better and look to the likes of Lewis Stevenson and Paul Hanlon as examples. The reason they’ve managed to rack up so many appearances for Hibs is because their temperament is spot on. He’s got to take advice from the senior players. I certainly had it in my time.



I was a bit hot-headed at times and could do stupid things as a young man, including a few needless red cards. I made mistakes but the conversations I had with the likes of Bobby Smith definitely put me on the right road. He was a great player, a great man and a great leader for me.


There was one time I went flying into a tackle against Celtic and had a bit of a go at someone and Bobby pulled me aside. He said, ‘calm yourself down, show more composure and concentrate on playing football’. He said, ‘that’s part of your game you need to change because you’ve got ability but poor temperament will hold you back. Don’t let that become a major hurdle for you’. He was right and I took it on board. I always had a side of me that was desperate to win, but it definitely stuck with me and made me think about the game more, rather than just going hell for leather, flying into tackles and trying to do things I shouldn’t. These conversations with experienced pros are so important for young players and Ryan is at the stage where he needs to be given advice, but he also needs to take it.

I don’t mind the competitiveness. I would never want to take that out of any player. It's just knowing the right times and having the composure to take a deep breath in moments like that. To be fair, I’ve said it umpteen times, he's a 22-year-old centre-half who is playing every game, every week.


We’re putting a lot of burden on a young man who is still learning the ropes in senior football and it can start to show in your decision-making. There comes a point at that age when you’ve got to be taken out of the side and given a rest because it takes a toll, and it eventually will show. Hopefully he learns from it and moves on from it.




https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/michael-weir-ryan-porteous-should-seek-the-advice-i-was-given-as-a-rash-young-hibs-player-3409820

[Billy Whizz]

Wise words from Mickey



https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/michael-weir-ryan-porteous-should-seek-the-advice-i-was-given-as-a-rash-young-hibs-player-3409820

He gets mentored by Andy Murray, sure that’s a big enough and experienced name to work with!

[500miles]

Looks like Porto has took the bait and bit back at a twitter journo.

For all he shouldn't do that, I think Hibs need to be supporting him better. He's clearly feeling under attack, and his manager and captain publicly sitting on the fence would not help that.

[Bridge hibs]

Looks like Porto has took the bait and bit back at a twitter journo.

For all he shouldn't do that, I think Hibs need to be supporting him better. He's clearly feeling under attack, and his manager and captain publicly sitting on the fence would not help that.What was said mate, I dont have twitter ?

[MWHIBBIES]

The ****ing rubbish that has been printed since Sunday is unreal. Imagine if he had actually smashed the hun guy. Its a pathetic reaction.

[500miles]

What was said mate, I dont have twitter ?

Porto DM'd the boy on insta and said he looked like he'd been covered in glue and kicked through Burtons. Cassiday responded defending his article and that no offence was intended, and then Porteous badly expressed his anger at the pile on and how that can affect a young man. I think he might have been steaming, because he usually speaks quite well.

[JohnM1875]

Porto DM'd the boy on insta and said he looked like he'd been covered in glue and kicked through Burtons. Cassiday responded defending his article and that no offence was intended, and then Porteous badly expressed his anger at the pile on and how that can affect a young man. I think he might have been steaming, because he usually speaks quite well.

So the guy writes an article about Porteous, almost a week after the event, Porteous replies privately to the guy and he thinks it's okay to publicly post the private convo between them? Seems like a bit of a walloper to me looking for social media likes/attention.

Porto mentions mental health as well so genuinely hope he's okay. This pile on can't be good for anyone yet alone someone as young.

[we are hibs]

No wonder hes snapped back. The criticism and language used about and against him since Sunday has been an absolute disgrace. Hibs should be calling it out and calling these ******** hun pandering"journalists" out. Its went way over the line now.

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[500miles]

So the guy writes an article about Porteous, almost a week after the event, Porteous replies privately to the guy and he thinks it's okay to publicly post the private convo between them? Seems like a bit of a walloper to me looking for social media likes/attention.

Porto mentions mental health as well so genuinely hope he's okay. This pile on can't be good for anyone yet alone someone as young.
Aye, but he made fun of his shirt, so fair enough, right?

[B.H.F.C]

No wonder hes snapped back. The criticism and language used about and against him since Sunday has been an absolute disgrace. Hibs should be calling it out and calling these ******** hun pandering"journalists" out. Its went way over the line now.

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Totally agree.

If idiot journalists are allowed to say what they want about him, he has every right to say whatever he wants in return.

[Rumble de Thump]

The Cassidy guy seems like the kind of person whose opinion is worth less than something you'd flush down the bog. Likes to attack folk but doesn't like to get even a fraction of it back.

[BegbieHSC]

So let me get this straight:

This “journalist” SLAUGHTERS Porto publicly.

Porto responds privately with a wee jibe about his shirt, but subsequently makes the serious point about players mental health being affected by lazy journalism.

“Journalist” then decides to publicise Porto’s private remarks, trying to slaughter him all over again.

And Porteous is the bad guy? It’s a borderline witch-hunt from the West Coast media, because our defender is brave enough to stick two fingers up (metaphorically) at the Old Firm

[007]

So let me get this straight:

This “journalist” SLAUGHTERS Porto publicly.

Porto responds privately with a wee jibe about his shirt, but subsequently makes the serious point about players mental health being affected by lazy journalism.

“Journalist” then decides to publicise Porto’s private remarks, trying to slaughter him all over again.

And Porteous is the bad guy? It’s a borderline witch-hunt from the West Coast media, because our defender is brave enough to stick two fingers up (metaphorically) at the Old Firm

That's about the size of it. Plus Rangers fans that have been having a go since Sunday pile in all over again. So called journalist is probably delighted at all the attention he is getting, not giving a toss a Porteous and he chucks in a few extra posts to milk it further.

[tmb1875]

Looks like Porto has took the bait and bit back at a twitter journo.

For all he shouldn't do that, I think Hibs need to be supporting him better. He's clearly feeling under attack, and his manager and captain publicly sitting on the fence would not help that.

Agree, think it’s poor his captain or manager haven’t come out all guns blazing for him. Quite refreshing to see a player retort back at the abuse tho. Burton boy just another attention seeker trying to look relavent.


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[Peevemor]

Agree, think it’s poor his captain or manager haven’t come out all guns blazing for him. Quite refreshing to see a player retort back at the abuse tho. Burton boy just another attention seeker trying to look relavent.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI disagree. Hibs made the right noises, appealed & lost. Any further statement from us will just attract more unwanted coverage from the red tops & other attention seekers. If JR & whatever player is sent for the next press conferences get the chance to say something pertinent then fine.

In the meantime Ryan's been confirmed as being in the wrong. We should bite the bullet & and get on with it.

[tmb1875]

We didn’t make any noises. The moments gone now anyway, the club moved on at the final whistle on Sunday. Just hope Porto uses this as extra motivation for next time we meet them.


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[Peevemor]

We didn’t make any noises. The moments gone now anyway, the club moved on at the final whistle on Sunday. Just hope Porto uses this as extra motivation for next time we meet them.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkHibs say they “stand united” with the 22-year-old after comments from Rangers manager Steven Gerrard branding the tackle a “leg-breaker”.

Hibs chief executive Ben Kensell said: “After reviewing footage of the incident, we have decided to appeal the decision.

“We believe we have enough evidence to show his challenge was not worthy of a sending off.

https://www-scotsman-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-confirm-ryan-porteous-rangers-red-card-appeal-as-club-insist-we-have-enough-evidence-3407115?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&amp&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#aoh=163372588595 09&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=Source%C2%A0%3A%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.scotsman.com%2Fsport%2F football%2Fhibs%2Fhibs-confirm-ryan-porteous-rangers-red-card-appeal-as-club-insist-we-have-enough-evidence-3407115

[Rumble de Thump]

I disagree. Hibs made the right noises, appealed & lost. Any further statement from us will just attract more unwanted coverage from the red tops & other attention seekers. If JR & whatever player is sent for the next press conferences get the chance to say something pertinent then fine.

In the meantime Ryan's been confirmed as being in the wrong. We should bite the bullet & and get on with it.

Do you mean our appeal was rejected?

[Peevemor]

Do you mean our appeal was rejected????

Yes, it was rejected.

[jacomo]

Hibs say they “stand united” with the 22-year-old after comments from Rangers manager Steven Gerrard branding the tackle a “leg-breaker”.

Hibs chief executive Ben Kensell said: “After reviewing footage of the incident, we have decided to appeal the decision.

“We believe we have enough evidence to show his challenge was not worthy of a sending off.

https://www-scotsman-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-confirm-ryan-porteous-rangers-red-card-appeal-as-club-insist-we-have-enough-evidence-3407115?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&amp&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#aoh=163372588595 09&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=Source%C2%A0%3A%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.scotsman.com%2Fsport%2F football%2Fhibs%2Fhibs-confirm-ryan-porteous-rangers-red-card-appeal-as-club-insist-we-have-enough-evidence-3407115


Ben is hardly a well known figure in Scottish football.

Jack should have defended our player in public. It would have carried a lot more weight.

[Peevemor]

Ben is hardly a well known figure in Scottish football.

Jack should have defended our player in public. It would have carried a lot more weight.He's said that he understands the sending off even though he might not agree with it.

He thinks Ryan made a daft decision.

What else do you want him to say?

[DIXIHIBS]

There now seems to be a gerrard/hun witchhunt against porteous. Whether last weeks tackle was a red or not now seems immaterial. The media and many ex pros are joining in with this and making the lad out to be some sort of out of control thug. Its just not true and hibs really should be calling this out in the media and try to protect him. Its easy for fans to say porto should ignore it all and do his talking on the park but the pressure on him is increasing daily. Needs sorted now.

[Peevemor]

If Hibs condone Ryan's challenge, then we should be ready to accept folk trying the same thing on Martin Boyle when he's in full flight.

[Andy74]

If Hibs condone Ryan's challenge, then we should be ready to accept folk trying the same thing on Martin Boyle when he's in full flight.

What, winning the ball and being nowhere near him? I’m sure we will cope.

You’ve gone from not being convinced it was a red but arguing for it anyway to now suggesting it is the type of challenge we should now be worried about. Odd.

[Kato]

The OF do this with players they feel are a threat. Then they usually try and sign them.

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[Peevemor]

What, winning the ball and being nowhere near him? I’m sure we will cope.

You’ve gone from not being convinced it was a red but arguing for it anyway to now suggesting it is the type of challenge we should now be worried about. Odd.My position on the challenge, for what it's worth, has never changed.

What's odd is your inventing incoherences on my part.

[Alfred E Newman]

There now seems to be a gerrard/hun witchhunt against porteous. Whether last weeks tackle was a red or not now seems immaterial. The media and many ex pros are joining in with this and making the lad out to be some sort of out of control thug. Its just not true and hibs really should be calling this out in the media and try to protect him. Its easy for fans to say porto should ignore it all and do his talking on the park but the pressure on him is increasing daily. Needs sorted now.

As I’ve just posted on another thread, we have little or no support in the Scottish media. It’s been that way for years.
Goodness knows why that should be but it’s fact.

[green day]

The Cassidy guy seems like the kind of person whose opinion is worth less than something you'd flush down the bog. Likes to attack folk but doesn't like to get even a fraction of it back.
Aye, had never heard of him before today. Really amateur article too. Maybe I am a journalist as well, as I can call someone crap on Twitter?

[stoneyburn hibs]

I really hope Ryan doesn't read the absolute ***** printed/posted about him from so called journalists , football experts,and hun pandering sycophants.

It's a disgrace to be bringing down one of Scotlands most promising talents.

Make headlines, sell papers.
Post on twitter, assume you're popular, it's bogging that such a talent has been so ostracised in the past week.
I really hope this doesn't accelerate his exit from Hibs, more importantly I hope it hasn't affected him in any way.

[Torto7]

The club needs to make a clear statement and call out the bullying one of our own is getting. The likes of Levein, Rae and co should never be allowed to set the narrative against us. Call all of them out for bullying including the ned thug Gerrard.

[tmb1875]

Hibs say they “stand united” with the 22-year-old after comments from Rangers manager Steven Gerrard branding the tackle a “leg-breaker”.

Hibs chief executive Ben Kensell said: “After reviewing footage of the incident, we have decided to appeal the decision.

“We believe we have enough evidence to show his challenge was not worthy of a sending off.

https://www-scotsman-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-confirm-ryan-porteous-rangers-red-card-appeal-as-club-insist-we-have-enough-evidence-3407115?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&amp&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#aoh=163372588595 09&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=Source%C2%A0%3A%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.scotsman.com%2Fsport%2F football%2Fhibs%2Fhibs-confirm-ryan-porteous-rangers-red-card-appeal-as-club-insist-we-have-enough-evidence-3407115

Not even a whimper imo, could’ve galvanised the support with a strong statement kicking back and taking the huns to task. Minerals lacking again imo.


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[Torto7]

Not even a whimper imo, could’ve galvanised the support with a strong statement kicking back and taking the huns to task. Minerals lacking again imo.


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Yip. It's imperative we don't give them a sniff of weakness here.

[Hibee87]

The OF do this with players they feel are a threat. Then they usually try and sign them.

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I don't think Rangers would attempt to sign him, not after all the howling at the moon from their staff and fans.
Whatever their agenda, I suspect when Ryan moves on it will be down south and away from this unwarranted reputation that rangers, and the Hun media, have inflicted upon him.

[jacomo]

He's said that he understands the sending off even though he might not agree with it.

He thinks Ryan made a daft decision.

What else do you want him to say?


Obviously you are taking the party line as always, but it’s not about the challenge is it? It’s about the manager of another club mouthing off about our player, and the subsequent media pile on.

It’s out of order. Most of us can see that.

[Peevemor]

Obviously you are taking the party line as always, but it’s not about the challenge is it? It’s about the manager of another club mouthing off about our player, and the subsequent media pile on.

It’s out of order. Most of us can see that.It's nothing to do with any imaginary party line, it's just my opinion.

So Gerrard's a dick and the MSM are crap. Tell me something I don't know.

But Hibs making any statement or fuss will only increase and prolong the frenzy.

Treat them with the contempt they deserve and just get on with what we've been doing fairly well recently.

Onward and upward!

[jacomo]

It's nothing to do with any imaginary party line, it's just my opinion.

So Gerrard's a dick and the MSM are crap. Tell me something I don't know.

But Hibs making any statement or fuss will only increase and prolong the frenzy.

Treat them with the contempt they deserve and just get on with what we've been doing fairly well recently.

Onward and upward!


Seems your personal opinion always aligns with whatever action Hibs have taken. Some coincidence!

[Peevemor]

Seems your personal opinion always aligns with whatever action Hibs have taken. Some coincidence!That's not true but you crack on.

[Hibs90]

To be fair that is some line from Porteous 😂😂

[Since452]

Not even a whimper imo, could’ve galvanised the support with a strong statement kicking back and taking the huns to task. Minerals lacking again imo.


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Don't see anything wrong with our statement

[Pretty Boy]

Cassidy is a disgrace imo.

He posted his original article that, despite his protestations, was largely critical knowing a player generally can't reply publicly. Ryan has replied to him privately and whilst he needs to be smarter than that there is little offensive in what he says.

Cassidy then shares a private conversation publicly, again knowing RP can't reply publicly. That's just cowardly. There's a lesson for Ryan here and we all know players need tk be thick skinned but flashing private messages for the world to see is really low, more so because they were in response to a public opinion piece in which only one side of a story could be heard.

[bigwheel]

Cassidy is a disgrace imo.

He posted his original article that, despite his protestations, was largely critical knowing a player generally can't reply publicly. Ryan has replied to him privately and whilst he needs to be smarter than that there is little offensive in what he says.

Cassidy then shares a private conversation publicly, again knowing RP can't reply publicly. That's just cowardly. There's a lesson for Ryan here and we all know players need tk be thick skinned but flashing private messages for the world to see is really low, more so because they were in response to a public opinion piece in which only one side of a story could be heard.

As a developing journo he’s not coming out well here . Sharing a personal exchange and lack of balance in his very slanted article . Can’t imagine he will be proud of this episode if he really reflects on it .

[Smartie]

Journalist acting as a ****bag shocker.

I think Ryan needs to be smarter here.

He’s giving them what they want.

I’m not saying I think it’s easy for him, but he needs to be smarter than this. High profile footballers attract attention, some of it unpleasant and unwanted. If he’s going to play at a higher level, one which attracts greater scrutiny, he’s going to need to learn to walk away from provocation, as infuriating as that may sometimes feel.

[500miles]

Don't see anything wrong with our statement
Too passive in a very hostile atmosphere. Like walking into a mass pub scrap and clearing your throat in disapproval.

We should have been far more on the front foot, we should have defended his record, and we should have screamed about the double standard with Lundstram.

This isn't a discussion, it's a fight.

[green day]

Cassidy is a disgrace imo.

He posted his original article that, despite his protestations, was largely critical knowing a player generally can't reply publicly. Ryan has replied to him privately and whilst he needs to be smarter than that there is little offensive in what he says.

Cassidy then shares a private conversation publicly, again knowing RP can't reply publicly. That's just cowardly. There's a lesson for Ryan here and we all know players need tk be thick skinned but flashing private messages for the world to see is really low, more so because they were in response to a public opinion piece in which only one side of a story could be heard.

He wont get a bigger gig in scotland on the back of this, thats for sure.

[RossScott1991]

Covered in glue and kicked through burtons is pretty funny to be fair hahahaha

[bingo70]

As a developing journo he’s not coming out well here . Sharing a personal exchange and lack of balance in his very slanted article . Can’t imagine he will be proud of this episode if he really reflects on it .

He had an opportunity to build a relationship with a player and have a bit of a laugh with him but he’s ****ed it.

Other players will know they can’t trust him now either.

Never read the original article but it sounds like it was one of the usual poorly researched article that has Porteous down as a hatchet man.

Boy has had a shocker this week IMO.

As for Porteous, he can do his talking on the pitch so the fact he’s had a wee fall out with a second rate journalist/blogger won’t mean a thing if he keeps playing well.

[BegbieHSC]

As a developing journo he’s not coming out well here . Sharing a personal exchange and lack of balance in his very slanted article . Can’t imagine he will be proud of this episode if he really reflects on it .

I see another Keith Jackass in the making.

[bigwheel]

He had an opportunity to build a relationship with a player and have a bit of a laugh with him but he’s ****ed it.

Other players will know they can’t trust him now either.

Never read the original article but it sounds like it was one of the usual poorly researched article that has Porteous down as a hatchet man.

Boy has had a shocker this week IMO.

As for Porteous, he can do his talking on the pitch so the fact he’s had a wee fall out with a second rate journalist/blogger won’t mean a thing if he keeps playing well.

Exactly. Have a laugh and ask to meet for a coffee..missed chance to get a more intimate understanding of Ryan and his views …seems it’s been about the mischief making rather than the journalism