Porto: Negative Press

[Smartie]

Exactly. Have a laugh and ask to meet for a coffee..missed chance to get a more intimate understanding of Ryan and his views …seems it’s been about the mischief making rather than the journalism

Why would he want to do that though?

It's been a hatchet job, and the huns who buy papers etc will be lapping up the fact that Porteous has been triggered.

It's gutter press stuff but that's what they do. Porto needs to be wise enough not to give them what they want. Ultimately a story like this is what they want, not a coffee, the chance to be pals and for Porto to get his side of the story across.

I'd be surprised if this harmed the journo at all. If anything it's probably raised the profile of a nobody and put him on the radar of tabloids for more work.

[silverhibee]

He's said that he understands the sending off even though he might not agree with it.

He thinks Ryan made a daft decision.

What else do you want him to say?

Once again I will say it, “ I haven’t seen it again but from where I was standing in the dugout it looked fine to me and it was never a red card” how hard was it for Jack Ross to say that, you think Gerard would have been that honest, Paul Hanlon should have said the same thing, a bit like someone saying “watch that bus while they push you under it.

[bigwheel]

Why would he want to do that though?

It's been a hatchet job, and the huns who buy papers etc will be lapping up the fact that Porteous has been triggered.

It's gutter press stuff but that's what they do. Porto needs to be wise enough not to give them what they want. Ultimately a story like this is what they want, not a coffee, the chance to be pals and for Porto to get his side of the story across.

I'd be surprised if this harmed the journo at all. If anything it's probably raised the profile of a nobody and put him on the radar of tabloids for more work.

Sure. If he doesn’t want to build trust with the football community he can continue what he is doing ….even Jackson was wiser than that

[jacomo]

That's not true but you crack on.


:faf:


Evidence is littered throughout this board. It seems if anyone expresses disappointment in the way the club has handled something, up you pop to have a row with them.

You might gaslight the missus at home but none of that pish here please.

[Peevemor]

:faf:


Evidence is littered throughout this board. It seems if anyone expresses disappointment in the way the club has handled something, up you pop to have a row with them.

You might gaslight the missus at home but none of that pish here please.

Yet today I'm questioning whether the club is doing the right thing in not replacing Mathie. There are plenty other instances where I've been less than convinced by goings on at the club. I will comment but I tend not to make hysterical posts across every thread on the board.

While I'm flattered that you take such an interest in my posts, you should really pay more attention in future.

[Torto7]

Too passive in a very hostile atmosphere. Like walking into a mass pub scrap and clearing your throat in disapproval.

We should have been far more on the front foot, we should have defended his record, and we should have screamed about the double standard with Lundstram.

This isn't a discussion, it's a fight.

This. I'm surprised we still see posts on here about Ryan bringing it on himself and needing to be smarter whilst seemingly being oblivious to the assault on the club and one of our assets by people who genuinely hate us. Credit to the club appealing but there needs to be a follow up statement about the bullying he's received.

This is mainly from the same club who have abused many of our former managers for coming from Irish catholic stock and Hibs said nothing about it. The club needs to grow a pair.

[MWHIBBIES]

Too passive in a very hostile atmosphere. Like walking into a mass pub scrap and clearing your throat in disapproval.

We should have been far more on the front foot, we should have defended his record, and we should have screamed about the double standard with Lundstram.

This isn't a discussion, it's a fight.

His record isn't really very good, though. Far too many bookings especially.

[Smartie]

Sure. If he doesn’t want to build trust with the football community he can continue what he is doing ….even Jackson was wiser than that

Getting in with the huns is probably more important for his future career prospects than having much respect from Hibs players.

I don’t expect a hatchet job on Porto will have done his standing much harm.

[jacomo]

Yet today I'm questioning whether the club is doing the right thing in not replacing Mathie. There are plenty other instances where I've been less than convinced by goings on at the club. I will comment but I tend not to make hysterical posts across every thread on the board.

While I'm flattered that you take such an interest in my posts, you should really pay more attention in future.


I saw that. You make some good points.

No need to always row with people on other matters though. They might be making good points too.

[Peevemor]

I saw that. You make some good points.

No need to always row with people on other matters though. They might be making good points too.

Says the guy who had a pop at me.

[silverhibee]

Ryan must be scratching his head after seeing these tackles from Gilmour & Patterson, both reckless and could have broke legs, but nothing said about it, McCoist at 1st didnt even think Gilmours was a foul then the replay shows it was a horror tackle and says it was maybe a yellow.

[Mr. Wonderful]

Ryan must be scratching his head after seeing these tackles from Gilmour & Patterson, both reckless and could have broke legs, but nothing said about it, McCoist at 1st didnt even think Gilmours was a foul then the replay shows it was a horror tackle and says it was maybe a yellow.

Agree and the one on Gilmour that won us the pen was a shocker

[A Hi-Bee]

At least 3 tackles in this Scotland game way worse than anything Ryan done against the hun and nothing said from the west, funny that.

[Smartie]

I was at the Scotland game with my mate who is a hun.

We were in 100% agreement that it is harder than ever to differentiate everything from not even a foul through to a red card.

[Andy74]

I was at the Scotland game with my mate who is a hun.

We were in 100% agreement that it is harder than ever to differentiate everything from not even a foul through to a red card.

As was said a lot last weekend just about every challenge can look bad when seen from different angles or slowed down. I was just surprised how many Hibs fans seen the thing in real time, had access to all the views of it and still wanted to criticise our player who did nothing wrong.

[Glory Lurker]

One Ryan Porteous
There's only one Ryan Porteous

[Heisenberg]

Getting in with the huns is probably more important for his future career prospects than having much respect from Hibs players.

I don’t expect a hatchet job on Porto will have done his standing much harm.

Aye exactly, the site he wrote the article for is basically a hun fanzine anyway. See he’s shat himself and deleted the tweets showing the DMs now too.

[Col2]

It’s really frustrating we aren’t going after Gerard, the media etc re RP.

However I think it is right we keep our powder dry. We appealed and lost the appeal. But more importantly I’d say if JR starts having a go at Gerard for his comments and if he goes after the similar Rangers tackle he will stir the semi final up big time. I am not sure we need to give a good Rangers team more motivation.

I am hoping we are motivated ourselves big time and happy to do our talking on the pitch. If we win the semi and RP plays a significant part then I am all for a total GIRUY.

[JimBHibees]

Journalist acting as a ****bag shocker.

I think Ryan needs to be smarter here.

He’s giving them what they want.

I’m not saying I think it’s easy for him, but he needs to be smarter than this. High profile footballers attract attention, some of it unpleasant and unwanted. If he’s going to play at a higher level, one which attracts greater scrutiny, he’s going to need to learn to walk away from provocation, as infuriating as that may sometimes feel.

Agree not the smartest move to engage directly with a journo who would have no qualms in stabbing you in the back. Ryan needs to let it go and concentrate on being right at it in next game he can play in.

[500miles]

Cassidy has taken the tweets down, although T4O still reference them on thier twitter page.

[Broken Gnome]

Decent comments from Jack Ross this morning out this one to bed?

[Peevemor]

Decent comments from Jack Ross this morning out this one to bed?

:agree: Excellent from JR.



Sickened by the vitriol aimed at his player, Hibs manager Ross has hit back strongly at the tone taken by some of his critics and shone a light on the personal abuse Porteous has suffered as a result.

“I think those who have that platform need to be careful not to exaggerate or misrepresent things,” said Ross. “I have seen what a 22-year-old had to deal with because of that.

“It was a tackle, that’s all it was. People can have their opinion on how bad a tackle it was, that’s football, but that’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about the way there was a complete misrepresentation of it by people who used inflammatory language without thought. It definitely stoked a stronger reaction.

“His disciplinary record last season was outstanding but people don’t want to hear that. In the current climate, when we are quick to highlight some other forms of abuse, it is terrible what he has had to put up with.

“He is a young man, who has had to deal with the professional disappointment of the way the game panned out but it is the other stuff he has had to deal with that’s inappropriate and we shouldn’t wash over it as though it is acceptable. The abuse, and people talking about him dying, that goes beyond the pale.”

As the incident was heavily-debated in the following days, former Hearts boss Craig Levein suggested it may not be long before reckless challenges land players in court and, taking it all in, Ross said he was astounded by the ensuing narrative.

“Some people discussed it in a rational, balanced manner, as you would expect. But some people didn’t and blew it all out of proportion,” he added.

"Because of that a 22-year-old was subjected to the most dreadful abuse in the aftermath. I have seen it and it is disgusting. I have seen sectarian abuse, homophobic abuse, people telling him they hope he dies of a tumour.

“You can say that came in the aftermath of the incident or you can say it is in the aftermath of the way some people spoke about it but I have to be protective of him.”

There were check-up calls in the hours and days that followed and despite Gerrard’s assertion that Porteous “let his manager down and his teammates down”, Ross hit back.

“Ryan didn’t let me down, he knows that. I’m there to make my players better so it’s not about me. He is a young man who has made over 100 appearances for Hibs and he loves this club and wants to bring success. He will always come back stronger.”

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/jack-ross-fury-over-disgusting-ryan-porteous-abuse-as-hibs-boss-condemns-rangers-red-card-critics-who-stoked-a-reaction-3418291

[Billy Whizz]

Well done Jack

[staunchhibby]

Great reply from Jack Ross in support of Ryan

[bingo70]

Yup, great defence of him this morning.

I’m assuming that was taken from the podcast we released yesterday?

Looking forward to listening to that today.

[Smartie]

Excellent stuff from Jack Ross.

I’m delighted he’s done this.

[neil7908]

Well done Jack

[Billy Whizz]

Yup, great defence of him this morning.

I’m assuming that was taken from the podcast we released yesterday?

Looking forward to listening to that today.

I’m presuming it’s from the press conference, hoping we might be able to watch it soon

[Mikey_1875]

Great response. I’m realising more each week how fortunate we are to have him as our manager.

[I_Love_Latapy]

:agree: Excellent from JR.

Completely agree. See that the Record has run this too, so maybe someone in the West will hear something.

[Libby Hibby]

Spot on from Jack, timing seems correct as this may have hot lost in the international break

[Keith_M]

:agree: Excellent from JR.



Sickened by the vitriol aimed at his player, Hibs manager Ross has hit back strongly at the tone taken by some of his critics and shone a light on the personal abuse Porteous has suffered as a result.

“I think those who have that platform need to be careful not to exaggerate or misrepresent things,” said Ross. “I have seen what a 22-year-old had to deal with because of that.

“It was a tackle, that’s all it was. People can have their opinion on how bad a tackle it was, that’s football, but that’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about the way there was a complete misrepresentation of it by people who used inflammatory language without thought. It definitely stoked a stronger reaction.

“His disciplinary record last season was outstanding but people don’t want to hear that. In the current climate, when we are quick to highlight some other forms of abuse, it is terrible what he has had to put up with.

“He is a young man, who has had to deal with the professional disappointment of the way the game panned out but it is the other stuff he has had to deal with that’s inappropriate and we shouldn’t wash over it as though it is acceptable. The abuse, and people talking about him dying, that goes beyond the pale.”

As the incident was heavily-debated in the following days, former Hearts boss Craig Levein suggested it may not be long before reckless challenges land players in court and, taking it all in, Ross said he was astounded by the ensuing narrative.

“Some people discussed it in a rational, balanced manner, as you would expect. But some people didn’t and blew it all out of proportion,” he added.

"Because of that a 22-year-old was subjected to the most dreadful abuse in the aftermath. I have seen it and it is disgusting. I have seen sectarian abuse, homophobic abuse, people telling him they hope he dies of a tumour.

“You can say that came in the aftermath of the incident or you can say it is in the aftermath of the way some people spoke about it but I have to be protective of him.”

There were check-up calls in the hours and days that followed and despite Gerrard’s assertion that Porteous “let his manager down and his teammates down”, Ross hit back.

“Ryan didn’t let me down, he knows that. I’m there to make my players better so it’s not about me. He is a young man who has made over 100 appearances for Hibs and he loves this club and wants to bring success. He will always come back stronger.”

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/jack-ross-fury-over-disgusting-ryan-porteous-abuse-as-hibs-boss-condemns-rangers-red-card-critics-who-stoked-a-reaction-3418291



Finally


Well done JR

[superfurryhibby]

Well said by Jack Ross. Hard hitting, measured, supportive and powerful.

I wonder how widely this story has been reported? The BBC football page deems it only worthy of a mention in their daily gossip/ summary column.

[500miles]

:agree: Excellent from JR.



Sickened by the vitriol aimed at his player, Hibs manager Ross has hit back strongly at the tone taken by some of his critics and shone a light on the personal abuse Porteous has suffered as a result.

“I think those who have that platform need to be careful not to exaggerate or misrepresent things,” said Ross. “I have seen what a 22-year-old had to deal with because of that.

“It was a tackle, that’s all it was. People can have their opinion on how bad a tackle it was, that’s football, but that’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about the way there was a complete misrepresentation of it by people who used inflammatory language without thought. It definitely stoked a stronger reaction.

“His disciplinary record last season was outstanding but people don’t want to hear that. In the current climate, when we are quick to highlight some other forms of abuse, it is terrible what he has had to put up with.

“He is a young man, who has had to deal with the professional disappointment of the way the game panned out but it is the other stuff he has had to deal with that’s inappropriate and we shouldn’t wash over it as though it is acceptable. The abuse, and people talking about him dying, that goes beyond the pale.”

As the incident was heavily-debated in the following days, former Hearts boss Craig Levein suggested it may not be long before reckless challenges land players in court and, taking it all in, Ross said he was astounded by the ensuing narrative.

“Some people discussed it in a rational, balanced manner, as you would expect. But some people didn’t and blew it all out of proportion,” he added.

"Because of that a 22-year-old was subjected to the most dreadful abuse in the aftermath. I have seen it and it is disgusting. I have seen sectarian abuse, homophobic abuse, people telling him they hope he dies of a tumour.

“You can say that came in the aftermath of the incident or you can say it is in the aftermath of the way some people spoke about it but I have to be protective of him.”

There were check-up calls in the hours and days that followed and despite Gerrard’s assertion that Porteous “let his manager down and his teammates down”, Ross hit back.

“Ryan didn’t let me down, he knows that. I’m there to make my players better so it’s not about me. He is a young man who has made over 100 appearances for Hibs and he loves this club and wants to bring success. He will always come back stronger.”

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/jack-ross-fury-over-disgusting-ryan-porteous-abuse-as-hibs-boss-condemns-rangers-red-card-critics-who-stoked-a-reaction-3418291
It's a good statement a week too late. At this point he has to identify the articles in question to make an impact.

[flash]

It's a good statement a week too late. At this point he has to identify the articles in question to make an impact.

No it isn't. Any statement made right after the game would have got lost in all the noise.
Saying it now means it gets room to breathe and be widely read.

[90274]

Excellent stuff from Jack Ross there. Great to see.

[blackpoolhibs]

It's a good statement, but the damage was done nearly a fortnight ago. He needed to come out and defend his player straight after the game, and not give them the ammunition to have a go at Porteous by saying he could see why he was sent off.

Hanlon was the same.

If Jack Ross did not think it was a sending off, then that's what he should say, nothing else was needed.

[flash]

It's a good statement, but the damage was done nearly a fortnight ago. He needed to come out and defend his player straight after the game, and not give them the ammunition to have a go at Porteous by saying he could see why he was sent off.

Hanlon was the same.

If Jack Ross did not think it was a sending off, then that's what he should say, nothing else was needed.
Would that have stopped all the disgusting stuff that the player has been subjected to since?

[Peevemor]

Would that have stopped all the disgusting stuff that the player has been subjected to since?

Not at all - it would probably have made it worse.

JR's spot on here - he's let Porto's critics bump their gums and now he's answered them with a level of eloquence and intelligence that they can only dream of.

[blackpoolhibs]

Would that have stopped all the disgusting stuff that the player has been subjected to since?

I doubt it, but we need to as a club give them nothing, dont give the press or huns any opening. Fight fire with fire with these ****bags.

[Craig_HFC]

It's a good statement, but the damage was done nearly a fortnight ago. He needed to come out and defend his player straight after the game, and not give them the ammunition to have a go at Porteous by saying he could see why he was sent off.

Hanlon was the same.

If Jack Ross did not think it was a sending off, then that's what he should say, nothing else was needed.

It's not an either or scenario; he should have defended Porteous more forcefully after the game IMO and also, like he has done now, in the wake of the hyperbole/abuse/media frenzy/whatever you want to call it.

[Coco Bryce]

Strange the timing of this statement.

Possibly due to the fact Ryan has refused to sign the new deal offered to him :hmmm:

[bigwheel]

Strange the timing of this statement.

Possibly due to the fact Ryan has refused to sign the new deal offered to him :hmmm:

I suspect it’s not a statement , more likely emerged out of press interviews ….

[Craig_HFC]

Strange the timing of this statement.

Possibly due to the fact Ryan has refused to sign the new deal offered to him :hmmm:

Not really, Jack Ross will have been asked about it in his press conference this week in the lead up to the game on Saturday which will have been his first since the game at Ibrox.

[Coco Bryce]

I suspect it’s not a statement , more likely emerged out of press interviews ….


Not really, Jack Ross will have been asked about it in his press conference this week in the lead up to the game on Saturday which will have been his first since the game at Ibrox.

Regardless.

Ryan has still refused to sign his new contract.

[Brightside]

Regardless.

Ryan has still refused to sign his new contract.

Does anyone every accept the first offer? Boyle rejected his contract too. :greengrin

[heretoday]

My advice to Porto is to stay off social media for the time being if he's hurt by it. There's nothing but radges out there at the best of times.
As long as Hibs fans are happy with him and show their support at ER that's all he needs.

[Coco Bryce]

My advice to Porto is to stay off social media for the time being if he's hurt by it. There's nothing but radges out there at the best of times.
As long as Hibs fans are happy with him and show their support at ER that's all he needs.

He needs to get out of Scotland to progress his career.

The Scottish press/Rangers have tagged him as a thug.

[Nicho87]

And Tom English produces a lovey article regarding the media darlings new midfielder who is decent but still

As a poster earlier said no article alone on the BBC for Ross telling it how it is just shoved in the gossip

If this was the other way about and it was Gerrard just coming out defending his player it would be plastered all over the shop hourly

[superfurryhibby]

Regardless.

Ryan has still refused to sign his new contract.

How do you know this?

[Kato]

And Tom English produces a lovey article regarding the media darlings new midfielder who is decent but still

As a poster earlier said no article alone on the BBC for Ross telling it how it is just shoved in the gossip

If this was the other way about and it was Gerrard just coming out defending his player it would be plastered all over the shop hourly

That's just how it is with the Scottish football journos and Hibs. Got used to it years ago. The guy has had the most horrendous comments chucked at him and it goes in the gossip column, insulting doesn't approach describing their deliberate attitude towards us.

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[500miles]

No it isn't. Any statement made right after the game would have got lost in all the noise.
Saying it now means it gets room to breathe and be widely read.

It would have forced MSM journalists to balance their articles with JR's. It would have cut the legs off "let his team and manager down" nonsense. And maybe Porto would have felt more protected and less likely to DM that part time hack on insta.

[easty]

It would have forced MSM journalists to balance their articles with JR's. It would have cut the legs off "let his team and manager down" nonsense. And maybe Porto would have felt more protected and less likely to DM that part time hack on insta.

It wouldn't have forced MSM journalists to do anything. It'd have been largely ignored.

[Bangkok Hibby]

The comments about cancer and dying? Who is saying this? Genuinely don't know.

[Kato]

It wouldn't have forced MSM journalists to do anything. It'd have been largely ignored.Exactly.

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[500miles]

It wouldn't have forced MSM journalists to do anything. It'd have been largely ignored.

You don't think a stout defence of the player wouldn't have been mentioned? You don't think it would tempered commentary by people dependant on clubs for information. I disagree. Even if he'd just highlighted last season's disciplinary record at the time, it totally changes the "the kid's not learning " narrative which was allowed to fester into Aidan Smiths latest ramble in the evening news, and that T4O article, and the various other opinion pieces in the red tops.

[Coco Bryce]

How do you know this?

I just do.

[superfurryhibby]

I just do.

Ok. I'd probably not bother mentioning it, as it's not really contributing a great deal to the discussion about Porteous and negative press.

[Coco Bryce]

Ok. I'd probably not bother mentioning it, as it's not really contributing a great deal to the discussion about Porteous and negative press.

It's information about one of our players.

Not really any of your business how I know about it though, also if I told you who told me, they would probably get into trouble.

[Kato]

It's information about one of our players.

Not really any of your business how I know about it though, also if I told you who told me, they would probably get into trouble.Why would they get into trouble? Is it supposed to be private?

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[weecounty hibby]

I realised many many years ago that Hibs don't have too many friends in the Scottish media. The bigot twins get most of the press, and friendly press at that. Recently though the tarts and Aberdeen have had an incredible amount of support from the BBC in particular. No matter what hearts have done on and off the pitch, no matter how much of a James Hunt they were making if the stand, relegated a few times, crao teams, threatening teams/sfa/spfl etc with court action they always seem to get great press. You could make a old boys team out of the amount of jambo roasters on the beeb and in the press.
Whatever Jack and the club say or have said is irrelevant to what will be portrayed in the media. **** them all, we as Hibbies need to stick together and keep sticking up for players and club. No one else will do it for us

[superfurryhibby]

It's information about one of our players.

Not really any of your business how I know about it though, also if I told you who told me, they would probably get into trouble.

A tad over the top when you're posting on a Hibs forum, but crack on. I'm sure your source will love your eagerness to betray their confidence :thumbsup:

[Kato]

Whatever Jack and the club say or have said is irrelevant to what will be portrayed in the media. **** them all, we as Hibbies need to stick together and keep sticking up for players and club. No one else will do it for us

Nail on head.

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[Coco Bryce]

Why would they get into trouble? Is it supposed to be private?

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I'm not too sure but don't really think it would be fair to name someone.

But it's not really any of our business either to be honest is it :greengrin

I'll just put stuff like this on the PM from now on.

[Andy74]

Regardless.

Ryan has still refused to sign his new contract.

Are you sure about your wording?

You make it sound as though a contract gets written up and is put on a table for him to sign without any discussion.

Do you mean he has declined the opportunity to discuss a contract or he has so far not agreed on the terms for a new contract?

[ian cruise]

Are you sure about your wording?

You make it sound as though a contract gets written up and is put on a table for him to sign without any discussion.

Do you mean he has declined the opportunity to discuss a contract or he has so far not agreed on the terms for a new contract?

The way the poster has presented it he is suggesting a contract offer has been made and Ryan is refusing to sign because Jack Ross didn't stick up for him more vehemently in the press, causing Ross to make this new statement.

Which sounds a little far fetched to me but I'm not in the know.

[Kato]

I'm not too sure but don't really think it would be fair to name someone.

But it's not really any of our business either to be honest is it :greengrin

I'll just put stuff like this on the PM from now on.Fair enough. Discretion is key sometimes when these discussions are ongoing.

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[.Sean.]

Can we take a second to imagine how sweet a Porteous winner at Hampden next month would be.

Honestly don’t think I’ve ever wanted to leather the Huns as much, hopefully we boot a few of them into Row Z, nice and sportsmanlike.

**** Rangers, the west coast Hun sympathising ‘journalists’, and especially Steven Gerrard

[JimBHibees]

Can we take a second to imagine how sweet a Porteous winner at Hampden next month would be.

Honestly don’t think I’ve ever wanted to leather the Huns as much, hopefully we boot a few of them into Row Z, nice and sportsmanlike.

**** Rangers, the west coast Hun sympathising ‘journalists’, and especially Steven Gerrard

How funny would that be. Do it Ryan :thumbsup:

[Craig_HFC]

Can we take a second to imagine how sweet a Porteous winner at Hampden next month would be.

Honestly don’t think I’ve ever wanted to leather the Huns as much, hopefully we boot a few of them into Row Z, nice and sportsmanlike.

**** Rangers, the west coast Hun sympathising ‘journalists’, and especially Steven Gerrard

With him celebrating by doing a huge slide tackle in front of the Huns dugout.

:greengrin

[Kato]

With him celebrating by doing a huge slide tackle in front of the Huns dugout.

:greengrin...with Boyler miming the dive the Rangers guy took and writhing around in front of Slippy.

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[loanheadhibby]

Why would they get into trouble? Is it supposed to be private?

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Maybe Ryan has asked the poster to put it out there? Nothing wrong with a bit of espionage when negotiating a new contract. Especially if you see your future in England and are happy to run your contract down.

Not that I have any idea if Ryan has rejected a new contract however as a young ambitious man, you could not blame him.

[Kato]

Maybe Ryan has asked the poster to put it out there? Nothing wrong with a bit of espionage when negotiating a new contract. Especially if you see your future in England and are happy to run your contract down.

Not that I have any idea if Ryan has rejected a new contract however as a young ambitious man, you could not blame him.Rubbish

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[cabbageandribs1875]

:agree: Excellent from JR.



Sickened by the vitriol aimed at his player, Hibs manager Ross has hit back strongly at the tone taken by some of his critics and shone a light on the personal abuse Porteous has suffered as a result.

“I think those who have that platform need to be careful not to exaggerate or misrepresent things,” said Ross. “I have seen what a 22-year-old had to deal with because of that.

“It was a tackle, that’s all it was. People can have their opinion on how bad a tackle it was, that’s football, but that’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about the way there was a complete misrepresentation of it by people who used inflammatory language without thought. It definitely stoked a stronger reaction.

“His disciplinary record last season was outstanding but people don’t want to hear that. In the current climate, when we are quick to highlight some other forms of abuse, it is terrible what he has had to put up with.

“He is a young man, who has had to deal with the professional disappointment of the way the game panned out but it is the other stuff he has had to deal with that’s inappropriate and we shouldn’t wash over it as though it is acceptable. The abuse, and people talking about him dying, that goes beyond the pale.”

As the incident was heavily-debated in the following days, former Hearts boss Craig Levein suggested it may not be long before reckless challenges land players in court and, taking it all in, Ross said he was astounded by the ensuing narrative.

“Some people discussed it in a rational, balanced manner, as you would expect. But some people didn’t and blew it all out of proportion,” he added.

"Because of that a 22-year-old was subjected to the most dreadful abuse in the aftermath. I have seen it and it is disgusting. I have seen sectarian abuse, homophobic abuse, people telling him they hope he dies of a tumour.

“You can say that came in the aftermath of the incident or you can say it is in the aftermath of the way some people spoke about it but I have to be protective of him.”

There were check-up calls in the hours and days that followed and despite Gerrard’s assertion that Porteous “let his manager down and his teammates down”, Ross hit back.

“Ryan didn’t let me down, he knows that. I’m there to make my players better so it’s not about me. He is a young man who has made over 100 appearances for Hibs and he loves this club and wants to bring success. He will always come back stronger.”

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/jack-ross-fury-over-disgusting-ryan-porteous-abuse-as-hibs-boss-condemns-rangers-red-card-critics-who-stoked-a-reaction-3418291


well said JR :agree:

[CMurdoch]

The comments about cancer and dying? Who is saying this? Genuinely don't know.

The usual anonymous illiterate half wits on the usual half wit platforms I suspect.

[CMurdoch]

Maybe Ryan has asked the poster to put it out there? Nothing wrong with a bit of espionage when negotiating a new contract. Especially if you see your future in England and are happy to run your contract down.

Not that I have any idea if Ryan has rejected a new contract however as a young ambitious man, you could not blame him.

Agents use the proper media for that sort of stuff.

[Coco Bryce]

Maybe Ryan has asked the poster to put it out there? Nothing wrong with a bit of espionage when negotiating a new contract. Especially if you see your future in England and are happy to run your contract down.

Not that I have any idea if Ryan has rejected a new contract however as a young ambitious man, you could not blame him.

Or maybe his agent :wink:

It's no secret he want's to play in England.

[loanheadhibby]

Agents use the media for that sort of stuff.

As do media savvy players. The young guns are all over social media.

What’s the chances a media company picks this up and within a few days we are all reading headline - Hibs star refuses contract extension….Seen it a million times before.

[loanheadhibby]

Rubbish

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Thanks for that insightful response.

[Rumble de Thump]

I don't think a football agent would require a random person to anonomously post on a football forum that a player hasn't signed a new contract. Not only would it achieve absolutely nothing, but we're all aware Ryan hasn't signed a new deal yet. The only thing that matters will be the ongoing negotiations.

[Coco Bryce]

As do media savvy players. The young guns are all over social media.

What’s the chances a media company picks this up and within a few days we are all reading headline - Hibs star refuses contract extension….Seen it a million times before.

:greengrin

[Lago]

I'm not too sure but don't really think it would be fair to name someone.

But it's not really any of our business either to be honest is it :greengrin

I'll just put stuff like this on the PM from now on.
Best thing you've said so far.

[Bangkok Hibby]

The usual anonymous illiterate half wits on the usual half wit platforms I suspect.

Yes, but I wanted to know if so called Hibs fans angry at the red card were behind the comments. Can't quite believe it but.......

[A Hi-Bee]

:agree: Excellent from JR.



Sickened by the vitriol aimed at his player, Hibs manager Ross has hit back strongly at the tone taken by some of his critics and shone a light on the personal abuse Porteous has suffered as a result.

“I think those who have that platform need to be careful not to exaggerate or misrepresent things,” said Ross. “I have seen what a 22-year-old had to deal with because of that.

“It was a tackle, that’s all it was. People can have their opinion on how bad a tackle it was, that’s football, but that’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about the way there was a complete misrepresentation of it by people who used inflammatory language without thought. It definitely stoked a stronger reaction.

“His disciplinary record last season was outstanding but people don’t want to hear that. In the current climate, when we are quick to highlight some other forms of abuse, it is terrible what he has had to put up with.

“He is a young man, who has had to deal with the professional disappointment of the way the game panned out but it is the other stuff he has had to deal with that’s inappropriate and we shouldn’t wash over it as though it is acceptable. The abuse, and people talking about him dying, that goes beyond the pale.”

As the incident was heavily-debated in the following days, former Hearts boss Craig Levein suggested it may not be long before reckless challenges land players in court and, taking it all in, Ross said he was astounded by the ensuing narrative.

“Some people discussed it in a rational, balanced manner, as you would expect. But some people didn’t and blew it all out of proportion,” he added.

"Because of that a 22-year-old was subjected to the most dreadful abuse in the aftermath. I have seen it and it is disgusting. I have seen sectarian abuse, homophobic abuse, people telling him they hope he dies of a tumour.

“You can say that came in the aftermath of the incident or you can say it is in the aftermath of the way some people spoke about it but I have to be protective of him.”

There were check-up calls in the hours and days that followed and despite Gerrard’s assertion that Porteous “let his manager down and his teammates down”, Ross hit back.

“Ryan didn’t let me down, he knows that. I’m there to make my players better so it’s not about me. He is a young man who has made over 100 appearances for Hibs and he loves this club and wants to bring success. He will always come back stronger.”

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/jack-ross-fury-over-disgusting-ryan-porteous-abuse-as-hibs-boss-condemns-rangers-red-card-critics-who-stoked-a-reaction-3418291

Well done JR starting to warm to the man, this is class, well aimed, measured and gets the intended ones right between the eyes bunch o phanneys that they are.
BBC gunts as well, stuff them they are becoming irrelevant and out of date. Timing is everything and this is timed correctly in my humble, time to circle the wagons.
:thumbsup:

[Smartie]

Well done JR starting to warm to the man, this is class, well aimed, measured and gets the intended ones right between the eyes bunch o phanneys that they are.
BBC gunts as well, stuff them they are becoming irrelevant and out of date. Timing is everything and this is timed correctly in my humble, time to circle the wagons.
:thumbsup:

It’s timed perfectly as, imo, it gives him the last word on the matter (for now).

Attention is turning to the next fixtures and it makes Slippy or anyone else who wants to comment now look a bit desperate to keep the issue going.

[CMurdoch]

Yes, but I wanted to know if so called Hibs fans angry at the red card were behind the comments. Can't quite believe it but.......

Safe to say it was Rangers or Hearts supporters but it's hard to care what team brain dead abusive folk support.
Sadly every team has them and they should be told to wind their necks in every time the opportunity arises.

I didn't see anyone on here say anything angry or abusive about Ryan.
Comments were made by the minority that the red card was valid, Ryan let the team down and he needed to make better decisions in future.
The extreme bat **** stuff on here was generally confined to the other side of the argument.

[Pretty Boy]

Exactly what you would expect from Rangers fans.

They know they will get away with it, they know all of Scottish football will fall into line again next time they want something. Why would they change?

[Sir David Gray]

Although I still think we should have defended Porteous more at the time, those are very good comments from Jack Ross and quite disturbing to read about the abuse Porteous has taken.

I'm glad that Hibs are looking after him and providing him with support.

[Sir David Gray]

Can we take a second to imagine how sweet a Porteous winner at Hampden next month would be.

Honestly don’t think I’ve ever wanted to leather the Huns as much, hopefully we boot a few of them into Row Z, nice and sportsmanlike.

**** Rangers, the west coast Hun sympathising ‘journalists’, and especially Steven Gerrard

I'm not sure I have ever wanted one specific player to score a winning goal in a game more in my lifetime.

I would love see the reaction from them it would be a beautiful sight to behold.

Please let this happen.

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58916448

BBC now carrying the story, as well as the Ross County racist abuse allegation story.

[007]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58916448

BBC now carrying the story, as well as the Ross County racist abuse allegation story.

Steven Gerrard's comments will most likely have been a contributing factor.

[007]

I'm not sure I have ever wanted one specific player to score a winning goal in a game more in my lifetime.

I would love see the reaction from them it would be a beautiful sight to behold.

Please let this happen.

It wouldn't surprise me if they took a leaf out of the Prague kids' book and repeatedly boo him.

[Iggy Pope]

Steven Gerrard's comments will mist likely have been a contributing factor.

Pretty much the case every time he opens his irritating gob., knowing he is going to stir his bonehead following into some form of action.
Well done Jack Ross, the latest to highlight the behaviour of this mob, who are sad to say, a section of our society.

[Juniper Greens]

Really proud of Jack Ross speaking out like this. It's sad on 2021 that he has had to. I really hope we (as a country) can use this recent momentum to eradicate sectarianism (or whatever people wish to call it)

[wookie70]

It's a good statement a week too late. At this point he has to identify the articles in question to make an impact.

Agreed. If he had said this the day after the game it would have at least should in public how he felt and may have diverted some of the vitriol towards Ryan onto Jack. As it is it is an excellent statement but far too late. Still better than nothing though

[Iggy Pope]

Agreed. If he had said this the day after the game it would have at least should in public how he felt and may have diverted some of the vitriol towards Ryan onto Jack. As it is it is an excellent statement but far too late. Still better than nothing though

That would be a good thing in what way?

[flash]

Agreed. If he had said this the day after the game it would have at least should in public how he felt and may have diverted some of the vitriol towards Ryan onto Jack. As it is it is an excellent statement but far too late. Still better than nothing though

He hadn't received all the online abuse the day after the game.

[tmb1875]

Fair play to jr for saying this, would have been much better doing it at the time. There has to be some sort of retribution however to Craig Levein etc for the nonsense they spread after, revoke their media passes for the rest of the season. Might seem petty but need to do something about it. Give the huns nothing when they come to er. Turn the heating and hot water off in there changing room aswell! [emoji23]


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[mcohibs]

Fair play to jr for saying this, would have been much better doing it at the time.


What's 'at the time'? Ryan has obviously been getting barrel loads of abuse online since the incident which JR has now seen or been made aware of and is commenting on it

[tmb1875]

That not self explanatory? After gerrards comments or couple days later after levein et al.


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[mcohibs]

That not self explanatory? After gerrards comments or couple days later after levein et al.


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He's talking about the online abuse that RP's been receiving as well though which probably wasn't all at that same time. I think it's a strong and calculated response by Ross, just as club football is returning from the international break. I doubt Ross was able to say much in the media at the time of Gerrard and Levein's quotes as there was still a decision to be made on the appeal

[CentreLine]

I like the way Jack Ross and the club are dealing with unacceptable comments and behaviour from other clubs. He put daft Robbie firmly in his box after the “celebrations” rubbish and now he has dealt with the The Rangers nonsense.

No knee jerk reaction. No histrionics, no rushed out “club statement “, just coolly and quietly done when the blabbering noise has settled down. Almost surgical in its delivery.
A bit of class is what I’ve always expected from our club and JR gives us that in spades right now. Long May it continue.

[JimBHibees]

I like the way Jack Ross and the club are dealing with unacceptable comments and behaviour from other clubs. He put daft Robbie firmly in his box after the “celebrations” rubbish and now he has dealt with the The Rangers nonsense.

No knee jerk reaction. No histrionics, no rushed out “club statement “, just coolly and quietly done when the blabbering noise has settled down. Almost surgical in its delivery.
A bit of class is what I’ve always expected from our club and JR gives us that in spades right now. Long May it continue.

Agree very happy with the comments by Jack. The timing is obviously a balance to be honest. I think the risk would have having back and forth with Gerrard through the unsympathetic red tops which probably wouldn't have helped especially given the semi final upcoming.

[mjhibby]

There was a tackle in my kids game which was far more uncontrolled than Ryan's challenge and the ref didn't even give a card. After calming down he explained he got the ball. The fact that the player on the receiving end of the tackle saw it coming didn't seem to matter. Every time I watch a game I see far worse tackles than Ryan's yet not even a card. An unbelievable decision and the witch hunt afterwards just compounds the problem. Against any other team and at any other venue there is no sending off. The refs behaviour is indefensible as is the appeal being rejected.

[Peevemor]

I like the way Jack Ross and the club are dealing with unacceptable comments and behaviour from other clubs. He put daft Robbie firmly in his box after the “celebrations” rubbish and now he has dealt with the The Rangers nonsense.

No knee jerk reaction. No histrionics, no rushed out “club statement “, just coolly and quietly done when the blabbering noise has settled down. Almost surgical in its delivery.
A bit of class is what I’ve always expected from our club and JR gives us that in spades right now. Long May it continue.Exactly.

[blackpoolhibs]

There was a tackle in my kids game which was far more uncontrolled than Ryan's challenge and the ref didn't even give a card. After calming down he explained he got the ball. The fact that the player on the receiving end of the tackle saw it coming didn't seem to matter. Every time I watch a game I see far worse tackles than Ryan's yet not even a card. An unbelievable decision and the witch hunt afterwards just compounds the problem. Against any other team and at any other venue there is no sending off. The refs behaviour is indefensible as is the appeal being rejected.
:top marks