Vaccine Certificate

[MunsterHibee]

Apologies if there's already a thread on this issue guys but I'm booked to come over at the end of January for the Hibs v Livingston match. I'm fully vaccinated and have my EU Digitial Vaccine Certificate downloaded on my phone which is basically a QR code and my details. Will this suffice to gain entry into the ground on the day???

[Sir David Gray]

Apologies if there's already a thread on this issue guys but I'm booked to come over at the end of January for the Hibs v Livingston match. I'm fully vaccinated and have my EU Digitial Vaccine Certificate downloaded on my phone which is basically a QR code and my details. Will this suffice to gain entry into the ground on the day???

At the moment there's nothing in place to verify the vaccination status of anyone who was vaccinated outside the UK so as things stand you won't be allowed to enter Easter Road from tomorrow onwards for a match.

I'd hope there might be something in place by January though, particularly for people vaccinated in the EU.

[Coco Bryce]

Apologies if there's already a thread on this issue guys but I'm booked to come over at the end of January for the Hibs v Livingston match. I'm fully vaccinated and have my EU Digitial Vaccine Certificate downloaded on my phone which is basically a QR code and my details. Will this suffice to gain entry into the ground on the day???

I'm sure they would still let you in with this to be honest.

This passport bollocks is not really targeted at people like you.

[Oscar T Grouch]

Apologies if there's already a thread on this issue guys but I'm booked to come over at the end of January for the Hibs v Livingston match. I'm fully vaccinated and have my EU Digitial Vaccine Certificate downloaded on my phone which is basically a QR code and my details. Will this suffice to gain entry into the ground on the day???

The rule is to catch unvacc'd people so I don't see why you shouldn't get in. Worth emailing the ticket office and checking with them?

[Sir David Gray]

The rule is to catch unvacc'd people so I don't see why you shouldn't get in. Worth emailing the ticket office and checking with them?

The poster will have presumably been vaccinated in Ireland though and there's nothing currently in place to verify the vaccination status of anyone outside the UK.

[JimBHibees]

The poster will have presumably been vaccinated in Ireland though and there's nothing currently in place to verify the vaccination status of anyone outside the UK.

You would assume something would be put in place to sort that e.g reciprocal agreement to respect vaccine status.

[Sir David Gray]

You would assume something would be put in place to sort that e.g reciprocal agreement to respect vaccine status.

You would hope so.

I'd like it to have been in place in time for the law taking effect but I would hope it would be in place by January.

[JimBHibees]

You would hope so.

I'd like it to have been in place in time for the law taking effect but I would hope it would be in place by January.

Yep agree

[LunasBoots]

If it's even in place by then or at all at the rate people in government are changing there minds then you shouldn't have any issues.

[Irish_Steve]

It's slightly jumping on this thread but how do you know you have the right kind of certificate?

I just went through NHS Scotland and in the end downloaded a document that had two little QR codes - is that correct, good luck on anyone trying to scan it!

[Sir David Gray]

It's slightly jumping on this thread but how do you know you have the right kind of certificate?

I just went through NHS Scotland and in the end downloaded a document that had two little QR codes - is that correct, good luck on anyone trying to scan it!

There's supposed to be an app being released today but what you've gone onto sounds like what you were initially expected to use as proof.

[JimBHibees]

It's slightly jumping on this thread but how do you know you have the right kind of certificate?

I just went through NHS Scotland and in the end downloaded a document that had two little QR codes - is that correct, good luck on anyone trying to scan it!

Yes I have that also. There is an app being developed which is intended to make it easier to use.

[greenginger]

There's supposed to be an app being released today but what you've gone onto sounds like what you were initially expected to use as proof.


Do you not not need a document sent by NHS Scotland. I thought these downloaded docs could be tampered with and faked with another name.

[green day]

Do you not not need a document sent by NHS Scotland. .


No

[greenlex]

Do you not not need a document sent by NHS Scotland. I thought these downloaded docs could be tampered with and faked with another name.
The original documents were able to be tampered with and we’re withdrawn. The latest one not so much. I think the QR code contains information that would need to match the name.

[greenginger]

There's supposed to be an app being released today but what you've gone onto sounds like what you were initially expected to use as proof.


https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/covid-scotland-live-new-nhs-25104226

It would appear the app has not appeared- yet

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/covid-scotland-live-new-nhs-25104226

It would appear the app has not appeared- yet

Let's face it, it's at least 24 hours before anyone will have to show it.

[Moulin Yarns]

Available now

[JeMeSouviens]

According to this the OP should be fine with EU status:

https://www.nhsinform.scot/nhs-scotland-covid-status/covid-status-common-questions/covid-status-guidance-common-questions/


I live outwith the UK. How can I prove my COVID Status at a venue?
EU Covid Certificates are accepted.

If you're from other nations, such as the USA, you should use the same proof of vaccination within Scotland that you used to enter the UK.

[Sir David Gray]

According to this the OP should be fine with EU status:

https://www.nhsinform.scot/nhs-scotland-covid-status/covid-status-common-questions/covid-status-guidance-common-questions/

Great news, this must just have been sorted today, last update was UK only and still working on a plan for everyone else.

[Billy Whizz]

Great news, this must just have been sorted today, last update was UK only and still working on a plan for everyone else.

I’ve just downloaded it. I thought it would be the same signing details as the NHS Scotland site, where you could download your certificate, but it’s not

[hibbysam]

I’ve just downloaded it. I thought it would be the same signing details as the NHS Scotland site, where you could download your certificate, but it’s not

I keep getting an error message when going to sign up for it as well.

[Golden Bear]

I’ve just downloaded it. I thought it would be the same signing details as the NHS Scotland site, where you could download your certificate, but it’s not

I still cant find the covid status app in my app store.

[hibbysam]

I still cant find the covid status app in my app store.

Click on the link above - that then takes you to the App Store.

[Sir David Gray]

I keep getting an error message when going to sign up for it as well.

Me too.

[Sir David Gray]

I still cant find the covid status app in my app store.

It's here but doesn't seem to be working just now.

https://www.nhsinform.scot/covid-status

[Golden Bear]

It's here but doesn't seem to be working just now.

https://www.nhsinform.scot/covid-status

Yip. I'll try again later.

[Moulin Yarns]

I keep getting an error message when going to sign up for it as well.

It took me a few attempts, the photos were a problem if you were doing it that way.

[Golden Bear]

It took me a few attempts, the photos were a problem if you were doing it that way.

The information was actually available about 3 weeks ago. I downloaded details of the dates of both my vaccines and the relevant QR codes. I'm not sure if this latest app will add to anything that I already have.

[hibbysam]

It took me a few attempts, the photos were a problem if you were doing it that way.

Nope, I go to sign up and it just gives me an error message. Go to sign in and forgot password and it tells me I haven’t signed up yet.

[green day]

The information was actually available about 3 weeks ago. I downloaded details of the dates of both my vaccines and the relevant QR codes. I'm not sure if this latest app will add to anything that I already have.


Might make it easier to travel?

No sure, I am having a go anyway !

[BlackSheep]

The app is terrible…. I’m all for vaccine passports but this has been a poor launch. Didn’t expect it to be perfect, but right now it claims I’ve not been vaccinated and according to the app my wife doesn’t exist!! 🤦*♂️

[Moulin Yarns]

Nope, I go to sign up and it just gives me an error message. Go to sign in and forgot password and it tells me I haven’t signed up yet.

That's why I created a new account!

[Moulin Yarns]

The app is terrible…. I’m all for vaccine passports but this has been a poor launch. Didn’t expect it to be perfect, but right now it claims I’ve not been vaccinated and according to the app my wife doesn’t exist!! 🤦*♂️

Good to hear there are positives 😉

[Zondervan]

I have tried several times to register and it says I don’t exist when I get to the final verification screen. That is after it has somehow captured all my personal details from my driving licence and my NHS unique reference.

I would forget all about the app and just save down a picture of the QR codes from the https://vacs.nhs.scot/ website, which works perfectly fine.


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[HibbyAndy]

I have tried several times to register and it says I don’t exist when I get to the final verification screen. That is after it has somehow captured all my personal details from my driving licence and my NHS unique reference.

I would forget all about the app and just save down a picture of the QR codes from the https://vacs.nhs.scot/ website, which works perfectly fine.


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Correct

[GreenCastle]

I have tried several times to register and it says I don’t exist when I get to the final verification screen. That is after it has somehow captured all my personal details from my driving licence and my NHS unique reference.

I would forget all about the app and just save down a picture of the QR codes from the https://vacs.nhs.scot/ website, which works perfectly fine.


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Good tip.

Just did this and much easier.

[green day]

I have tried several times to register and it says I don’t exist when I get to the final verification screen. That is after it has somehow captured all my personal details from my driving licence and my NHS unique reference.

I would forget all about the app and just save down a picture of the QR codes from the https://vacs.nhs.scot/ website, which works perfectly fine.


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I had the same experience, left it for a couple hours and it shows all the details correctly.

Probably just volume of people accessing today.

It's good tho, and the QR codes are humungous.

[eezyrider]

According to this the OP should be fine with EU status:

https://www.nhsinform.scot/nhs-scotland-covid-status/covid-status-common-questions/covid-status-guidance-common-questions/

Clicked on the link but it's only showing me 'Covid Status: Guidance and common questions.'

I don't see a link to get the app. It does allow me to download the PDF copy but not the app. What a I missing?

EZ

[hibbysam]

That's why I created a new account!

Not sure if you were being deliberately obtuse or I’m just not understanding your point. I couldn’t create a new account as I was getting an error message when clicking on it. Id call myself fairly tech savvy considering the job I do, it really shouldn’t be this hard to create an account on an app.

[mim]

I managed it ok - Samsung smartphone - Drivers Licence photo and biometric scan of my face, email address, sends verification code, enter that and create password. A bit of faffing about, but, if I can manage it at 75 years, it's not s 'shambles'.

[Mikey_1875]

Managed to get mine sorted. What caught me out first time not recognising my details was putting my post code in as e.g EH1 1AA instead of EH11AA. As soon as I put them together it recognised the details.

[Centre Hawf]

I had problems when it launched initially but i tried again an hour or so ago and it worked perfectly. Was all set up within about 5 minutes.

[JimBHibees]

Probably just initial teething problems as happens with all of these things normally. Hopefully sorted now and good to go.

[May21/05/216]

Done it this morning and that's me sorted

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[uwxm07]

Is anyone really surprised that this is a shambles?
They couldn’t organise an excessive drinking event in an alcohol production facility ..

[Radium]

Downloaded the App when it was released last night, photo of my DL, face scan, put in details, delay while I found a vaccine letter for my CHI and it all worked.


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[norhfc]

I have the same problem, I have the EU QR code on my phone showing I am double vaccinated. I have flown into Scotland a couple of times showing this and its been accepted. Surely then if I can get through Aberdeen airport I,d get into ER. Missed out on the semi as its the Sunday I fly back so the only game I,ll get is Livi away. I will get a ticket and try my luck.

[Hibby70]

Was getting same "can't find you error" so gave up. Went back into the app later and it had actually updated with the info and displays the codes.

[green day]

Is anyone really surprised that this is a shambles?
They couldn’t organise an excessive drinking event in an alcohol production facility ..

Although it is apparently not a shambles and it was only an issue last night due to so many people downloading it. Give it an hour or so and it seems to work perfectly.

How has your experience been?

[Allant1981]

I gave up with the app, kept saying my photo was blurred, then it just said it couldnt be used, ill keep my paper copy to hand

[ronaldo7]

Downloaded mine this morning. No issues. A doddle.

[green day]

I gave up with the app, kept saying my photo was blurred, then it just said it couldnt be used, ill keep my paper copy to hand

I had a similar thing first time with photo - 2nd time was fine.

Just how creepy is the facial recognition stuff tho?

[Allant1981]

I had a similar thing first time with photo - 2nd time was fine.

Just how creepy is the facial recognition stuff tho?

Got further this time, got to the very last part to confirm, then it says no matching details!

[green day]

Got further this time, got to the very last part to confirm, then it says no matching details!

Yep, I got that too - its a database issue, but seems to rectify itself.

Leave it a while (til tonight?), open it up again and hopefully it will show up perfectly - thats what happened to me.

[Moulin Yarns]

Got further this time, got to the very last part to confirm, then it says no matching details!

I think the problem some people have is that the need to get a verification number emailed to you isn't very clear.

It's now the following morning so there might be a second surge of people trying.

[Mr Grieves]

Yep, I got that too - its a database issue, but seems to rectify itself.

Leave it a while (til tonight?), open it up again and hopefully it will show up perfectly - thats what happened to me.

:agree: happened to me too. I signed back into the app and followed the instructions for pin/fingerprint verification. Then got the your vaccine details will appear here but this may take an hour screen, 20 minutes later it was all there.

[Carheenlea]

I’ve a brother in law coming over from Galway next month and I was going to fix him a ticket for the Celtic game. Double vaccinated so hoping that his Irish certificate saying so will be sufficient.
Mind you, given the total shambles of the roll out the whole thing will maybe be abandoned by then.

[Hiber-nation]

Seems to have crashed now after 5 attempts with 3 different error messages. Absolutely hopeless.

[staunchhibby]

After filling in all details it tells me I cannot be found.Any help appreciated

[Hibby70]

After filling in all details it tells me I cannot be found.Any help appreciated

I closed it down then launched it again , logged in and the data was there.

[Irish_Steve]

I have tried several times to register and it says I don’t exist when I get to the final verification screen. That is after it has somehow captured all my personal details from my driving licence and my NHS unique reference.

I would forget all about the app and just save down a picture of the QR codes from the https://vacs.nhs.scot/ website, which works perfectly fine.


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I have that too but I thought the app gave a single QR code that could be read by a scanner at the ground or wherever you need it

[Pete70]

I managed it ok - Samsung smartphone - Drivers Licence photo and biometric scan of my face, email address, sends verification code, enter that and create password. A bit of faffing about, but, if I can manage it at 75 years, it's not s 'shambles'.

I did the same. I also had my CHI number which pulled through my name, date of birth etc. Then it told me my name doesn’t match the details held by my GP. I got to the confirm page then received a No Match Found message. I think I’ll just stick to a photo of my letter which has a QR code on it.

[Carheenlea]

70% of Scots are fully vaccinated - and rising. Don’t really see what the need for this really is.

[Moulin Yarns]

I'm sad and read the information on the app, pity it's not out there before you get the app though. Any photo ID such as bus pass would be acceptable.

[Jones28]

70% of Scots are fully vaccinated - and rising. Don’t really see what the need for this really is.

For the 30% that aren’t vaccinated..

[Seveno]

I did the same. I also had my CHI number which pulled through my name, date of birth etc. Then it told me my name doesn’t match the details held by my GP. I got to the confirm page then received a No Match Found message. I think I’ll just stick to a photo of my letter which has a QR code on it.

I had exactly the same issue despite checking my details with my GP.

[Sir David Gray]

For the 30% that aren’t vaccinated..

To be fair about 10% of that 30% are under 18 and won't be affected by the law.

[Golden Bear]

I've already downloaded an NHS letter with my personal details, the dates of my vaccinations and the QR codes thereon. I'll also take along my driving licence and if that doesn't suffice then so be it.

Stuff the stupid app.

[Coco Bryce]

To be fair about 10% of that 30% are under 18 and won't be affected by the law.

The rest are of black and Ethnic minority according to the news last night.

[mim]

70% of Scots are fully vaccinated - and rising. Don’t really see what the need for this really is.

Because the UK has one of the highest rates of new cases in the world. Vaccination means that our death rate is low, but we need to take all measures to stop the spread. Vaccine passports work well in Italy and I predict the UK government will follow suit soon.

See here (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/britain-s-covid-infection-rate-is-one-of-the-worst-in-the-world-data-reveals/ar-AAP08og?ocid=msedgntp)

[Stairway 2 7]

The rest are of black and Ethnic minority according to the news last night.

Well that's a much bigger percentage than there is living in Scotland, so that would be extraordinary. About 75% of Scots vaccinated, 10% kids. About bout 100% of over 50s vaccinated, so it's basically a percentage of the young that are not vaccinated

[staunchhibby]

Finally abandoned the app continually saying I can't be found

[hibbyfraelibby]

Managed to get mine sorted. What caught me out first time not recognising my details was putting my post code in as e.g EH1 1AA instead of EH11AA. As soon as I put them together it recognised the details.

Tried it both ways and alwayz fails.

[staunchhibby]

Finally abandoned the app continually saying I can't be found

[Allant1981]

Finally abandoned the app continually saying I can't be found

Yip im the same, tried various times today

[Moulin Yarns]

Finally abandoned the app continually saying I can't be found

How many times is it that you have abandoned it? 😉

[staunchhibby]

computer error lol

[dangermouse]

Managed to get mine sorted. What caught me out first time not recognising my details was putting my post code in as e.g EH1 1AA instead of EH11AA. As soon as I put them together it recognised the details.

I tried that as well but it made no difference. A shocking piece of coding in the app if it can't format the postcode behind the scenes, or at least force you to put it in in the correct format!

[greenginger]

Finally abandoned the app continually saying I can't be found

Dinnae pay your council tax for a few months, they’ll find you soon enough. :greengrin

[greenlex]

Eventually got sorted. Added my CHI number and it eventually recognised me.
To be fair traffic might be the biggest issue. I did this at half two this morning on the night shift.

[Moulin Yarns]

Eventually got sorted. Added my CHI number and it eventually recognised me.
to be. Fair traffic might be the biggest issue. I did this at half two this morning on the night shift.

Definitely seems to have been the issue with 180 per minute successfully downloading it yesterday.

[Eyrie]

I've already downloaded an NHS letter with my personal details, the dates of my vaccinations and the QR codes thereon. I'll also take along my driving licence and if that doesn't suffice then so be it.

Stuff the stupid app.

That's my view as well.

My letter is proof of double vaccination, and I'll check after my third shot on Wednesday if that is also shown.

[jgl07]

Eventually got sorted. Added my CHI number and it eventually recognised me.
To be fair traffic might be the biggest issue. I did this at half two this morning on the night shift.
Which can directly be laid at the door of the Scottish Government for railroading a half-baked policy through without doing the groundwork. If this ever comes to be implemented, it will require careful planning and some testing.

Clearly the Scottish Government did not listen to those who they expect to enforce the policy and now look rather stupid given the on-line chaos.

The apologists (or should I say apologist) on here should bear that in mind before trying to defend the indefensible .

[Mikey_1875]

Tried it both ways and alwayz fails.


I tried that as well but it made no difference. A shocking piece of coding in the app if it can't format the postcode behind the scenes, or at least force you to put it in in the correct format!

Must have just been a lucky attempt then, was in the middle of the night I tried to be fair which seems to be the sweet spot! :greengrin

[Pretty Boy]

I'm just going to leave it for a while. No point in getting angry about it.

The letter, either paper copy or PDF download, is still valid for now. That will remain the case indefinitely otherwise it directly discriminates against people without a smart phone and that's not going to fly.

[Rocky]

I'm just going to leave it for a while. No point in getting angry about it.

The letter, either paper copy or PDF download, is still valid for now. That will remain the case indefinitely otherwise it directly discriminates against people without a smart phone and that's not going to fly.

That doesn't seem like the right attitude at all. Would it not be better to get in a tremendous flap about it?

[Moulin Yarns]

I'm just going to leave it for a while. No point in getting angry about it.

The letter, either paper copy or PDF download, is still valid for now. That will remain the case indefinitely otherwise it directly discriminates against people without a smart phone and that's not going to fly.

👍

Good idea, if only everyone was as understanding.

[greenlex]

Which can directly be laid at the door of the Scottish Government for railroading a half-baked policy through without doing the groundwork. If this ever comes to be implemented, it will require careful planning and some testing.

Clearly the Scottish Government did not listen to those who they expect to enforce the policy and now look rather stupid given the on-line chaos.

The apologists (or should I say apologist) on here should bear that in mind before trying to defend the indefensible .
I think although I don’t know the app is/will work just fine. The registering problem will sort itself out over time as traffic subsides. I’m not even sure the verification process is necessarily an app problem but might be a third party process that’s not up to the traffic muster. Either way it does work eventually. It should have been available weeks ago tho as we’ve known for ages this is the road we were going down.

[hibbysam]

👍

Good idea, if only everyone was as understanding.

Or the Scottish Government could have planned it properly, putting the relevant resource in place, so that this was never a problem. An app that can’t deal with a few thousand people accessing at the same time is woeful.

[bod]

Eventually got sorted. Added my CHI number and it eventually recognised me.
To be fair traffic might be the biggest issue. I did this at half two this morning on the night shift.

What’s a CHI number ?

[jeffers]

What’s a CHI number ?

Community Health Index Number. It’s the Scottish equivalent of the NHS number used in England and Wales. A 10 digit number. It will be on any correspondence you have from hospital appointments for example.

[bod]

Cheers.
No had a hospital appointment for years so there’s no chance I’ll know where to get that

[flash]

Cheers.
No had a hospital appointment for years so there’s no chance I’ll know where to get that

It's on your vaccination appointment letters.

[bod]

:panic:there well binned 😂

[gaz1875]

FFS can't get past the photo match, been trying for around 2 hours :grr::fuming:

[hibby rae]

FFS can't get past the photo match, been trying for around 2 hours :grr::fuming:

When I try to take a picture of my passport, the app takes a black and white photo. The app then rejects it as it needs to be in colour 🤦🤦

[bod]

Didn’t work with driving license but worked with passport then didn’t work with a space in my ppostcode but worked without Then not found after my name DOB & sex

[staunchhibby]

If you have a prescription chi is on that

[heretoday]

A paper copy is easy to obtain.

[Moulin Yarns]

Or the Scottish Government could have planned it properly, putting the relevant resource in place, so that this was never a problem. An app that can’t deal with a few thousand people accessing at the same time is woeful.

I'll say it again, 180 per minute successfully got the app.

[hibbysam]

I'll say it again, 180 per minute successfully got the app.

So your telling me in over 24 hours since it was launched >250k have successfully signed up for it and got their certificate on their app? Strange that the SG haven’t claimed this.

[Moulin Yarns]

So your telling me in over 24 hours since it was launched >250k have successfully signed up for it and got their certificate on their app? Strange that the SG haven’t claimed this.

I don't know, but that's the rate in the 6 and a half hours it was available yesterday, probably double that today, but as it's Saturday tomorrow we will probably have to wait until Monday for an update.

I wonder how well it went when the English version was first launched? You know, the one that they are not even using!!!!

[hibbysam]

I don't know, but that's the rate in the 6 and a half hours it was available yesterday, probably double that today, but as it's Saturday tomorrow we will probably have to wait until Monday for an update.

I wonder how well it went when the English version was first launched? You know, the one that they are not even using!!!!

Your last paragraph - nobody really cares. I’m not in England so couldn’t give the slightest **** about it.

70k had downloaded the app by end of play yesterday - 6 and a half hours after launch. So it seems you are talking about how many downloaded the app and not how many have successfully created an account and received their passport on the app. Going by the feedback I’d expect this is a far lower number. And if the servers can’t handle 70k users over 1/4 of a day then I’d suggest the planning and infrastructure has been woefully inadequate considering it was an app for millions of users.

[wookie70]

I'll say it again, 180 per minute successfully got the app.

Not really that important if we don't know how many are wasting their time and being unsuccessful entering details.

[jeffers]

Tried again. Same details as before and got in. So it appears it was indeed just the volume the system can’t cope with.

[Sir David Gray]

Tried again. Same details as before and got in. So it appears it was indeed just the volume the system can’t cope with.

It was about this time last night that I eventually managed to get in.

Seems people can only sign up in the early hours of the morning.

[jeffers]

It was about this time last night that I eventually managed to get in.

Seems people can only sign up in the early hours of the morning.

Not ideal that’s for sure. But I’m in so happy now.

[BarneyBreslin]

Left it a while after reading other people's experiences/frustrations. Just tried for the 1st time. Straight in via passport photo and chi number. Covid passport secured.

[Moulin Yarns]

Apologies for being a bit of a prat yesterday, the negative vibes got to me.

I understand that people are frustrated with not getting the covid status app working. I hope everyone who requires it will be able to access it by the time it is enforced on the 18th. Good luck everyone. 👍

[flash]

Mine just accepted after multiple failed attempts.
Looks like it's pretty random but will work eventually.

[Bishop Hibee]

All sorted after a few failed attempts. As others have said, the app obviously couldn't cope with the volume of people trying to download it. Ironically I’m stuck at home with Covid although symptom free. Thankfully free next Saturday to go to the Scotland v Israel game.

[Allant1981]

Got mine to work this morning, now got the app, the paper copy and the QR code saved on my phone, im getting in everywhere now😂😂

[bod]

Got in at a ridiculous time earlier , seems it was just the volume .
If they changed the message from “ your not found “ to “ were busy try again later “it might help.

[bringbackbenny]

I also got all sorted esrlier today after unpteen frustrating attempts yesterday.

One wee change today was I also had to take a photo of the back of my driving license, yesterday it was only the front.

[Heisenberg]

Mine worked half an hour ago after several failed attempts in the previous couple of days.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Your last paragraph - nobody really cares. I’m not in England so couldn’t give the slightest **** about it.

70k had downloaded the app by end of play yesterday - 6 and a half hours after launch. So it seems you are talking about how many downloaded the app and not how many have successfully created an account and received their passport on the app. Going by the feedback I’d expect this is a far lower number. And if the servers can’t handle 70k users over 1/4 of a day then I’d suggest the planning and infrastructure has been woefully inadequate considering it was an app for millions of users.

There is a huge difference between downloading the App and once downliading actually compketing the registratiin process in said app.

[Since90+2]

There is a huge difference between downloading the App and once downliading actually compketing the registratiin process in said app.

Yip. So the 70,000 figure that keeps getting banded about is meaningless as we have no idea how many people actually got it to work. Going by the posts on here and on social media it will be far far lower.

Downloading the app wasn't the issue. Actually getting the thing to work was. I'd have thought that was obvious.

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

First try this morning. All completed within a few minutes. 👍

[malcolm]

Sounds like there was at least insufficient testing of the app and it’s connectivity with underlying databases against any kind of volume of access attempts. It also sounds like the communication around it has been poor and the whole thing rushed which is a shame as the idea of a passport to give assurance and push up the numbers vaccinated is good.

Think the photo aspect is an overreaction to a perceived risk or was just part of the existing software that was reused to provide our app.

It is not necessary to show anyone any ID. Also paper and electronic copies of your cert outside the app are acceptable. It sounds though like the intention is to put an expiry date on new certificates thus requiring them to be re-requested.

Taken from the Scot gov info here (https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-certification-scheme-businesses-event-organisers/pages/vaccine-status-checks/) and updated 1/10/21

“How to check customers’ vaccine status

Customers will show their COVID vaccine certificate on a smartphone, tablet or as a printed document.

Businesses and event organisers can:

check customer vaccine certificates using the NHS Scotland COVID Check app – you can get more information on how to do this at 'using the app' on the app website, or
visually inspect customer vaccine certificates

A negative COVID-19 test result cannot be accepted as an alternative to evidence of vaccination.

What venues and event organisers need to do
You should ensure there is a reasonable system for checking and restricting entry to only those who are permitted to be on the premises. You can ask customers for proof they are fully vaccinated or permitted upon entry to the venue or event. You can choose to visually inspect or scan vaccine certificates provided by customers”

[ruskers]

Eventually got sorted. Added my CHI number and it eventually recognised me.
To be fair traffic might be the biggest issue. I did this at half two this morning on the night shift.

I think it’s definitely a traffic problem. I got up at 02:00 this morning to visit the little boys room , couldn’t get back to sleep so I tried the app and it worked first time and that was without my CHI number.

[TrinityHibs]

That’s mine working now. I do exist👍👍

[green.oracle]

It's on your vaccination appointment letters.

I still have my two appointment letters and the CHI number is NOT on either. (I do know my CHI number though).

[Green Badger]

First try this morning. All completed within a few minutes. 👍

Me too.

[hibbysam]

There is a huge difference between downloading the App and once downliading actually compketing the registratiin process in said app.

Correct. All sounds like it’s been done on the cheap and rushed.

[Pete70]

I've just tried for the the 3rd time. Still being told my GP has a different name for me and getting the no match found message at the confirm page.

[Green_one]

Had about 6 goes at final verification before it allowed me forward with the same info

Obviously a traffic issue

[Golden Bear]

We best all arrive for the Dundee United game at 11am and hopefully we'll get in before the 3pm kick off! Spot checks or no spot checks I forecast chaos.

[staunchhibby]

[I]I[/]
At last after numerous attempts finally downloaded the covid pass at 7am this morning:aok:

[Silversand]

After a few tries yesterday, got it to work easily today. Must have been a website capacity issue.

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[jgl07]

After a few tries yesterday, got it to work easily today. Must have been a website capacity issue.

I think it is a combination of a flaky app and excessive traffic.

The latter can be laid directly at the Scottish Government’s door. What the hell did they expect? Launch the app (as some have reported) a few days before it is supposed to be required to get into large numbers if events.

In England they have had the COVID vaccination app for months and are still not making it mandatory.

[Pretty Boy]

Got mine tonight.

I think it was just teething problems and volume of traffic initially. The latter is a good thing in many ways.

First attempt today and worked fine. Maybe worth trying again for those who were struggling yesterday/today. I was getting very frustrated so just left it for a bit. Frustrating of course but sure most will get their issues resolved in time.

[greenlex]

The app is just fine and will be able cope with lots of traffic. The registration verification process which was/is being done by a third party seems to have been the snag with the amount of traffic trying to be processed. I’m fairly certain that wouldn’t have been tested.

[Hibee Mac]

I can't even find the app on the play store.... [emoji23]

[Hibeesforever]

I can't even find the app on the play store.... [emoji23]

I couldn't either, given up, I have a paper copy that will have to be accepted...looked like a lot of random apps in the Google play store.

[HibsNibs]

https://off-guardian.org/2021/09/22/30-facts-you-need-to-know-your-covid-cribsheet/

[HibbyAndy]

I can't even find the app on the play store.... [emoji23]

Me neither..I got a link from the holy ground corona virus thread that I clicked on

[Jay]

I can't even find the app on the play store.... [emoji23]

https://www.nhsinform.scot/covid-status

Try the links in there

[Silversand]

Android app here:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=scot.nhs.nss.vcert&gl=GB



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[Silversand]

Apple app here:

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/id1571335133

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[EI255]

Did mine this morning.

Easy as Abc

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[JimBHibees]

Got mine tonight.

I think it was just teething problems and volume of traffic initially. The latter is a good thing in many ways.

First attempt today and worked fine. Maybe worth trying again for those who were struggling yesterday/today. I was getting very frustrated so just left it for a bit. Frustrating of course but sure most will get their issues resolved in time.

Exactly what I did. Tried a few times yesterday afternoon which didn't work at the ID part then left it until later on and worked first time.

[BoltonHibee]

We best all arrive for the Dundee United game at 11am and hopefully we'll get in before the 3pm kick off! Spot checks or no spot checks I forecast chaos.

There doesn’t need to be. I was at a game the other night with a crowd of about 50,000. Everyone was checked on way in and it wasn’t an issue at all.


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[Alfred E Newman]

Quite easy to fill in the registration form other than one small detail.
It would not accept my name!:brickwall

[greenlex]

Has anyone who has tried to download the app not been able to? Have they tried again of late?

[Moulin Yarns]

Has anyone who has tried to download the app not been able to? Have they tried again of late?

It's gone very quiet. It must be working for those who want it to. Or should that be need it to?

[tamig]

Has anyone who has tried to download the app not been able to? Have they tried again of late?

I just did mine now for the iPhone. No issues and a pretty straightforward process.

[Col2]

After about 10 failed attempts at the outset I left it until today to go in and it took about 2-3 mins and all fine. Looks like the teething problems have been ironed out.

[Irish_Steve]

Just did mine, I think!

I thought we were supposed to get some sort of QR code they could scan - all I have is my name and DOB and a note of when I had my vaccines


aww ffs, just realised if you clicked the arrow on your vaccine details that the QR code appears - move along, nothing to see here.....

[CropleyWasGod]

Just did mine, I think!

I thought we were supposed to get some sort of QR code they could scan - all I have is my name and DOB and a note of when I had my vaccines


aww ffs, just realised if you clicked the arrow on your vaccine details that the QR code appears - move along, nothing to see here.....

Thanks for doing that. It was bugging me too :greengrin

So, question next.....

do both QR codes need to be scanned for entry, or are they duplicates of each other?

[Irish_Steve]

Thanks for doing that. It was bugging me too :greengrin

So, question next.....

do both QR codes need to be scanned for entry, or are they duplicates of each other?

I would assume it would be the one for the second vaccine but given what I posted originally above, who knows.

[tamig]

Thanks for doing that. It was bugging me too :greengrin

So, question next.....

do both QR codes need to be scanned for entry, or are they duplicates of each other?

There’s a separate code for each of your vaccines. They’re unique. Who knows if they’ll scan both though.

[Sir David Gray]

Thanks for doing that. It was bugging me too :greengrin

So, question next.....

do both QR codes need to be scanned for entry, or are they duplicates of each other?

The QR codes are different, I'm not actually sure what purpose the code for your first dose serves.

[Irish_Steve]

The QR codes are different, I'm not actually sure what purpose the code for your first dose serves.

It's so MFI can track you........

[tamig]

It's so MFI can track you........

That tracking capability is now in our veins. 😉

[andudare2]

Looking for advice in regards to vaccine status updates, grandson git his 2nd jab 5 weeks ago and so far status has not been updated to say so,he has been calling various numbers on nhsinform.scot to inform them of this(at least 6 times)each time being told it will be dealt with,however so far it hasn't, has this happened to anyone on here and if so were you able to rectify it? Were both awayvto Spain in just over 2 weeks and would obviously want to go under double jabbed rules and not pay for tests other than the day 2 test everyone has to. Sorry if ive strayed of topic folks.

[jeffers]

There’s a separate code for each of your vaccines. They’re unique. Who knows if they’ll scan both though.

You would hope common sense would prevail and they only scan the the one for the second vaccine given you can’t have had that if you had not previously had the first one.

[Pete70]

Quite easy to fill in the registration form other than one small detail.
It would not accept my name!:brickwall

I finally got it working but it has my first name wrong and the AP doesn't seem to allow me to correct it.

[greenginger]

Sorry to dig this thread up again but I’m confused by my QR codes.

I first downloaded and printed off my vacs record with QR code a couple of weeks ago, then when the NHS started sending out the proper vaccination documents with the QR codes I applied for it and it came through the post within a few days.

However , looking closely at the QR codes on the two documents they are nothing like each other.

Is this right, or should they match as presumably they are carrying the same information ? :confused:

[I'm_cabbaged]

Sorry to dig this thread up again but I’m confused by my QR codes.

I first downloaded and printed off my vacs record with QR code a couple of weeks ago, then when the NHS started sending out the proper vaccination documents with the QR codes I applied for it and it came through the post within a few days.

However , looking closely at the QR codes on the two documents they are nothing like each other.

Is this right, or should they match as presumably they are carrying the same information ? :confused:
One for each jag?

Edit: think I’ve misread you

[greenginger]

H
One for each jag?

Neither codes on the downloaded documents match the codes on the document sent by NHS in the post.

[green day]

H

Neither codes on the downloaded documents match the codes on the document sent by NHS in the post.

Presumably the detail on the app and letter re date of vaccination etc are same?

If so, is this not a bit of a non issue??

[marinello59]

Not a big thing but you can’t scan the QR codes or attach the document when filling out the passenger locator form to return home to Scotland as unlike elsewhere we don’t have a single QR code saying you are fully vaccinated. I wasted ages yesterday trying to get it to accept my QR codes. Turns out you just tick the box saying you can’t confirm your vaccination status and you can show it at the airport when you arrive.

[greenginger]

Presumably the detail on the app and letter re date of vaccination etc are same?

If so, is this not a bit of a non issue??

All the details are the same except the QR code expiry date which is 10 days later on the NHS issued cert. as it was applied for after I downloaded the first cert.

Sure the details are the same but the question remains , why are the QR codes so vastly different ?

[malcolm]

All the details are the same except the QR code expiry date which is 10 days later on the NHS issued cert. as it was applied for after I downloaded the first cert.

Sure the details are the same but the question remains , why are the QR codes so vastly different ?

Are QR codes not more like keys to a file rather than the contents of it.. so if more than one key has been created for the same address/file content then it is not a problem or if the content is in more than one file needing a different lock/code to access…

[Moulin Yarns]

As expected there will be an outer cordon of Stewards checking covid status, so if you are going to Hampden today then have it ready to show before you get there.

[Green Badger]

Are QR codes not more like keys to a file rather than the contents of it.. so if more than one key has been created for the same address/file content then it is not a problem or if the content is in more than one file needing a different lock/code to access…

Yes exactly, you can have different QR codes that point to the same address. Suppose they might have done it so they can track what people are using for evidence, as they could identify which QR code was the source.

[greenginger]

Are QR codes not more like keys to a file rather than the contents of it.. so if more than one key has been created for the same address/file content then it is not a problem or if the content is in more than one file needing a different lock/code to access…

Maybe, but what would I know.

Maybe I should try using the code to get into a nightclub before going to Easter Road, but then I’d probably get knocked back for being an old perv. before they even checked my vaccine stuff. :greengrin

[Coach Jon]

As expected there will be an outer cordon of Stewards checking covid status, so if you are going to Hampden today then have it ready to show before you get there.

Not necessary to have proof for todays game, this is a quote from Hampden “Supporters will not be refused entry to the match on Saturday if they do not have their proof of vaccination."

[wookie70]

Not necessary to have proof for todays game, this is a quote from Hampden “Supporters will not be refused entry to the match on Saturday if they do not have their proof of vaccination." Sensible decision and one that allows my son to go to the game

[Moulin Yarns]

Not necessary to have proof for todays game, this is a quote from Hampden “Supporters will not be refused entry to the match on Saturday if they do not have their proof of vaccination."

Aye. It's already known to everyone that they will not be enforcing it before the 18th.

[wookie70]

Aye. It's already known to everyone that they will not be enforcing it before the 18th.

We knew the government wasn't enforcing but I dare say events can choose their own rules of entry. Glad they are using it as a test, albeit it doesn't seem to have been well advertised and I have not received an email to confirm despite being a ticket holder. It will be a good gauge to see how much longer it takes to get in. The outer ring doing the scanning makes sense too.

[Moulin Yarns]

We knew the government wasn't enforcing but I dare say events can choose their own rules of entry. Glad they are using it as a test, albeit it doesn't seem to have been well advertised and I have not received an email to confirm despite being a ticket holder. It will be a good gauge to see how much longer it takes to get in. The outer ring doing the scanning makes sense too.

I said the same thing for Easter Road, not sure how it would work for the famous five stand, but the east and west stands have controllable access points.

Has anything been said how it worked last weekend, tynecastle and Ibrox I think ?

[147lothian]

Looking for advice in regards to vaccine status updates, grandson git his 2nd jab 5 weeks ago and so far status has not been updated to say so,he has been calling various numbers on nhsinform.scot to inform them of this(at least 6 times)each time being told it will be dealt with,however so far it hasn't, has this happened to anyone on here and if so were you able to rectify it? Were both awayvto Spain in just over 2 weeks and would obviously want to go under double jabbed rules and not pay for tests other than the day 2 test everyone has to. Sorry if ive strayed of topic folks.

Phone nhsinform on 0800 030 8013, they don't take too long to answer the phone, have your grandsons CHI number ready, they will have a record of where and when he got his second jab and ask them to post you out a paper copy of your grandsons vaccine passport, that would be the best way for you to get a copy.

[andudare2]

Phone nhsinform on 0800 030 8013, they don't take too long to answer the phone, have your grandsons CHI number ready, they will have a record of where and when he got his second jab and ask them to post you out a paper copy of your grandsons vaccine passport, that would be the best way for you to get a copy.basically what he had been doing but much appreciated, problem has now been sorted at last.

[wookie70]

No corden I saw at Hampden. No masks, every second punter half cut

[Moulin Yarns]

No corden I saw at Hampden. No masks, every second punter half cut

Pretty sure James Corden is still in california 😉

[hibbyfraelibby]

You would hope common sense would prevail and they only scan the the one for the second vaccine given you can’t have had that if you had not previously had the first one.

Why scan it in the first place? The rules say you 'can- not 'must'. If the first screen shows two vaccinations, and the wee airolace changes colour when phone moved then the next bit us irrelevent and just over egging it surely?

[SteveHFC]

No corden I saw at Hampden. No masks, every second punter half cut

Yep.

Didn’t get asked to show my vaccine passport too.

[wookie70]

Pretty sure James Corden is still in california 😉

California 😉

[southern hibby]

The app is terrible…. I’m all for vaccine passports but this has been a poor launch. Didn’t expect it to be perfect, but right now it claims I’ve not been vaccinated and according to the app my wife doesn’t exist!! 🤦*♂️



BS if I was still married I’d buy the App off you so my X wife didn’t exist.

GGTTH

[HH81]

So I'm at game Saturday, I took advice of someone on here, downloaded English NHS got vaccine confirmed with two codes on it.

This all need to show?

[Sir David Gray]

So I'm at game Saturday, I took advice of someone on here, downloaded English NHS got vaccine confirmed with two codes on it.

This all need to show?

Yes that should be enough.

[HH81]

Yes that should be enough.

Thank you 👍

[007]

Don't know if already posted but it is quite easy to get a copy of your vaccination status certificate from the website.

https://www.nhsinform.scot/covid-19-vaccine/after-your-vaccine/get-a-record-of-your-coronavirus-covid-19-vaccination-status

You just register at the page below using the user name at the bottom of page 1 of the vaccine appointment letter.

https://vacs.nhs.scot/csp?id=csm_login

[Orourke73]

My laddie is 17 and has a youth season ticket. Does anyone know off hand if he needs a certificate? He's only had one jab

[Sir David Gray]

My laddie is 17 and has a youth season ticket. Does anyone know off hand if he needs a certificate? He's only had one jab

Only over 18s are subject to the new passport law at the moment.

If he has ID on him which proves he is under 18 and therefore exempt from needing a vaccine passport that will suffice.

[TheHibernator]

No vaccine passport required for Dundee United game this weekend.

Let’s get good numbers there to get behind the boys.

[Allant1981]

Trial run against dundee utd

[Power]

Supporter Information: COVID Passports - https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/supporter-information-covid-passports

Our cinch Premiership match against Dundee United at Easter Road will be used as a trial run for Covid Passport checks, but no supporters will be refused entry for failing to produce a vaccination certificate this weekend.

[Orourke73]

Only over 18s are subject to the new passport law at the moment.

If he has ID on him which proves he is under 18 and therefore exempt from needing a vaccine passport that will suffice.
Thanks the lot mate, much appreciated

[Scorrie]

I live in England and have been vaccinated here. I have a Covid pass from the NHS website with a QR code. Is that enough to get into ER or other venues in Scotland? Thnkas

[Mikey_1875]

I live in England and have been vaccinated here. I have a Covid pass from the NHS website with a QR code. Is that enough to get into ER or other venues in Scotland? Thnkas

Certainly fine for ER

“Supporters attending from the rest of the UK and the broader Common Travel Area (including Republic of Ireland) will be able to use their existing Covid Status apps with QR Codes or paper-based certificates. Visitors from outside the UK can use proof of vaccination from the country they were vaccinated in.”

[HH81]

Do you need proof for pubs and places that serve food?

Down in England we have nothing so wanted to check if my wife needs to download app.

[Jay]

Do you need proof for pubs and places that serve food?

Down in England we have nothing so wanted to check if my wife needs to download app.

No. Its just venues over 10,000 capacity and possibly nightclubs? I'm too old for them these days so no sure. Pubs and restaurants are fine. Your supposed to scan the check in thing but nobody bothers much and we wear masks moving around inside but once your sitting down it's business as normal.

[HH81]

No. Its just venues over 10,000 capacity and possibly nightclubs? I'm too old for them these days so no sure. Pubs and restaurants are fine. Your supposed to scan the check in thing but nobody bothers much and we wear masks moving around inside but once your sitting down it's business as normal.

Thanks 👍

[Jay]

Thanks 👍

Check in Scotland is the app to scan into places. Your probably better having it even though it seems to be rarely used .

[hibbyfraelibby]

So I'm at game Saturday, I took advice of someone on here, downloaded English NHS got vaccine confirmed with two codes on it.

This all need to show?

Yup

[Sir David Gray]

No. Its just venues over 10,000 capacity and possibly nightclubs? I'm too old for them these days so no sure. Pubs and restaurants are fine. Your supposed to scan the check in thing but nobody bothers much and we wear masks moving around inside but once your sitting down it's business as normal.

:agree: Yep plus the following;

sexual entertainment venues
unseated indoor events with more than 500 people, even if some are seated
unseated outdoor events with more than 4,000 people

[jeffers]

Surprised Hibs are saying bringing a paper copy of your vaccine status is preferable.

[Carheenlea]

Found it a breeze to download. Well, my wife did on my behalf as I can turn these things into an hours long exercise, but it all seemed pretty straightforward.

[Hibee Mac]

I assume it's fine but was everyone else directed out of the app to a separate website to sign up and put your information in?

[wookie70]

Surprised Hibs are saying bringing a paper copy of your vaccine status is preferable.

That makes no sense to me. This is based around an app. Surely the test should be conducted on that basis with advice to say that paper copies would be accepted if fans had issues getting the app to work. Hopefully the checks will be as low key as at Hampden ie invisible and that continues in the months ahead.

I see the Welsh have adopted a similar system but have included what I would want, a negative test would allow you to gain entry if you hadn't been double vaxxed. That to me is the best way to do it. If citizens don't want to get vaccinated they should have that choice and not be excluded presuming they can show they are a very small risk to fellow citizens. I think England had a similar approach before it was abandoned. That makes us outliers and the least liberal out of those nations imo. Really sad state of affairs that the Scottish Government are less pro choice when it comes to citizen making a medical decision for themselves than the Welsh or English.

[007]

That makes no sense to me. This is based around an app. Surely the test should be conducted on that basis with advice to say that paper copies would be accepted if fans had issues getting the app to work. Hopefully the checks will be as low key as at Hampden ie invisible and that continues in the months ahead.

I see the Welsh have adopted a similar system but have included what I would want, a negative test would allow you to gain entry if you hadn't been double vaxxed. That to me is the best way to do it. If citizens don't want to get vaccinated they should have that choice and not be excluded presuming they can show they are a very small risk to fellow citizens. I think England had a similar approach before it was abandoned. That makes us outliers and the least liberal out of those nations imo. Really sad state of affairs that the Scottish Government are less pro choice when it comes to citizen making a medical decision for themselves than the Welsh or English.

Maybe Nicola Sturgeon doesn't trust you not to use a fake Lateral Flow Test.

[mcohibs]

That makes no sense to me. This is based around an app. Surely the test should be conducted on that basis with advice to say that paper copies would be accepted if fans had issues getting the app to work. Hopefully the checks will be as low key as at Hampden ie invisible and that continues in the months ahead.

I see the Welsh have adopted a similar system but have included what I would want, a negative test would allow you to gain entry if you hadn't been double vaxxed. That to me is the best way to do it. If citizens don't want to get vaccinated they should have that choice and not be excluded presuming they can show they are a very small risk to fellow citizens. I think England had a similar approach before it was abandoned. That makes us outliers and the least liberal out of those nations imo. Really sad state of affairs that the Scottish Government are less pro choice when it comes to citizen making a medical decision for themselves than the Welsh or English.

But you've just said yourself that England abandoned that approach? For the right reasons. Negative LFTs are too easy to forge and having two checks to contend with is a logistical nightmare.

Citizens do have the right to choose not to be vaccinated. However, if that's what they choose then they will have to live with the consequence that they won't gain access to stadiums. No one's forcing people to go the football, it's a choice - one that now comes with an extra necessary step to keep the general public (majority of those who are vaxxed) safe.

[The Baldmans Comb]

All incredibly simple and certificate downloaded in about 60 seconds start to finish.✅

[green day]

That makes no sense to me. This is based around an app. Surely the test should be conducted on that basis with advice to say that paper copies would be accepted if fans had issues getting the app to work. Hopefully the checks will be as low key as at Hampden ie invisible and that continues in the months ahead.

I see the Welsh have adopted a similar system but have included what I would want, a negative test would allow you to gain entry if you hadn't been double vaxxed. That to me is the best way to do it. If citizens don't want to get vaccinated they should have that choice and not be excluded presuming they can show they are a very small risk to fellow citizens. I think England had a similar approach before it was abandoned. That makes us outliers and the least liberal out of those nations imo. Really sad state of affairs that the Scottish Government are less pro choice when it comes to citizen making a medical decision for themselves than the Welsh or English.

And the English are massive outliers if you look Europe wide. They have the most open society at the moment, the fewest checks re vaccine passports.

In France for example, you cant even sit outside a cafe if you dont have the Pass Sanitaire.

[JimBHibees]

That makes no sense to me. This is based around an app. Surely the test should be conducted on that basis with advice to say that paper copies would be accepted if fans had issues getting the app to work. Hopefully the checks will be as low key as at Hampden ie invisible and that continues in the months ahead.

I see the Welsh have adopted a similar system but have included what I would want, a negative test would allow you to gain entry if you hadn't been double vaxxed. That to me is the best way to do it. If citizens don't want to get vaccinated they should have that choice and not be excluded presuming they can show they are a very small risk to fellow citizens. I think England had a similar approach before it was abandoned. That makes us outliers and the least liberal out of those nations imo. Really sad state of affairs that the Scottish Government are less pro choice when it comes to citizen making a medical decision for themselves than the Welsh or English.

Unfortunately people choosing to not get vaxxed are resulting in more infections than there needs to be. Apparently 20 per cent of the most critical patients in hospitals are pregnant women unvaccinated.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-unvaccinated-pregnant-women-make-up-one-fifth-of-the-most-critically-ill-coronavirus-patients-in-england-12431110

People peddling myths are causing a lot of this.

[hibbysam]

But you've just said yourself that England abandoned that approach? For the right reasons. Negative LFTs are too easy to forge and having two checks to contend with is a logistical nightmare.

Citizens do have the right to choose not to be vaccinated. However, if that's what they choose then they will have to live with the consequence that they won't gain access to stadiums. No one's forcing people to go the football, it's a choice - one that now comes with an extra necessary step to keep the general public (majority of those who are vaxxed) safe.

Surely the same can be said if ID isn’t being checked for vaccine passports? What’s to stop me using my mates to get in (hypothetical as I’ve been jabbed).

[Brightside]

Hope they aren’t checking the players

[JimBHibees]

Hope they aren’t checking the players

They should be. Clubs should imo choose not to play unvaccinated players.

[Brightside]

They should be. Clubs should imo choose not to play unvaccinated players.

We would struggle to fill a team.

[lucky]

They should be. Clubs should imo choose not to play unvaccinated players.

The league should introduce it as a rule.

[hibbysam]

The league should introduce it as a rule.

I’d imagine refusing someone work due to their medical status would highly likely be in breach of some employment law. I also don’t see what use it would make - it’s been proven that transmission between players is extremely low anyway.

[Brightside]

I’d imagine refusing someone work due to their medical status would highly likely be in breach of some employment law. I also don’t see what use it would make - it’s been proven that transmission between players is extremely low anyway.

Players are not in a bubble anymore. Rules should be exactly the same.

[Allant1981]

I’d imagine refusing someone work due to their medical status would highly likely be in breach of some employment law. I also don’t see what use it would make - it’s been proven that transmission between players is extremely low anyway.

England are trying to make it compulsory for people to be vaccinated, wouldnt surprise me to see it happen up here at some point as well

[mcohibs]

England are trying to make it compulsory for people to be vaccinated, wouldnt surprise me to see it happen up here at some point as well

They are for frontline health and social care staff, yes. Not sure they could realistically implement that across other professions.

[Allant1981]

They are for frontline health and social care staff, yes. Not sure they could realistically implement that across other professions.

Aye sorry i read the article again

[007]

Surely the same can be said if ID isn’t being checked for vaccine passports? What’s to stop me using my mates to get in (hypothetical as I’ve been jabbed).

Could be a big "if". What if they cross reference the name on the vaccine certificate against name on ST/client ref on database?

[GreenCastle]

Players are not in a bubble anymore. Rules should be exactly the same.

They were never really in a bubble as such.

The players were just getting tested more often than others.

Players would go home and see partners and go to the shops etc - not the same type of bubble as some other sports / events.

The vaccine passport situation is still like other areas of the pandemic handling is pretty inconsistent. Showing a negative test result would be more effective.

[greenginger]

Could be a big "if". What if they cross reference the name on the vaccine certificate against name on ST/client ref on database?


What if if you use your mates season ticket with his vaccine certificate ?

[Since452]

We would struggle to fill a team.

I'd be amazed if most if not all our player weren't double jabbed

[bod]

I think if they’re saying 2jags or your not getting in then the same should apply to the staff who are enforcing it & the staff who serve food ,drink etc & the players everyone is going to watch

[Peevemor]

I think if they’re saying 2jags or your not getting in then the same should apply to the staff who are enforcing it & the staff who serve food ,drink etc & the players everyone is going to watch

The players aren't in contact with the public though.

[hibbysam]

Players are not in a bubble anymore. Rules should be exactly the same.

Players aren’t contacting general public, and transmission is highly unlikely player > player. I’m not required to for my work, they shouldn’t be any different.

[GreenCastle]

I think if they’re saying 2jags or your not getting in then the same should apply to the staff who are enforcing it & the staff who serve food ,drink etc & the players everyone is going to watch

They should but they won't.

There could easily be someone checking the vaccine status of hundreds of folk who hasn't been double jabbed or a student serving / coming into contact with food who hasn't been double jabbed.

[hibbysam]

Could be a big "if". What if they cross reference the name on the vaccine certificate against name on ST/client ref on database?

What if you aren’t a ST holder? If they check ID then checks are going to take a very long time at turnstiles.

[GreenCastle]

The players aren't in contact with the public though.

I'm sure I've seen Jack Ross and Macey etc get photos with fans in previous weeks.

Players meet fans outside the stadium after the game.

Players go to supermarkets etc.

Players have are interacting with the public - players partners and players have been going on nights out in George Street etc.

[hibbysam]

I'm sure I've seen Jack Ross and Macey etc get photos with fans in previous weeks.

Players meet fans outside the stadium after the game.

Players go to supermarkets etc.

Players have are interacting with the public - players partners and players have been going on nights out in George Street etc.

Supermarkets etc don’t require vaccine passports. If they’re going to a nightclub they’ll need one. If not they won’t.

They’re not sitting in amongst the paying public at the football, they’re on the pitch doing their work in a very safe environment with little risk.

[Sir David Gray]

They were never really in a bubble as such.

The players were just getting tested more often than others.

Players would go home and see partners and go to the shops etc - not the same type of bubble as some other sports / events.

The vaccine passport situation is still like other areas of the pandemic handling is pretty inconsistent. Showing a negative test result would be more effective.

If it's going to be a lateral flow test, I'm honestly not sure how effective that would be.

They seem to provide false negative results fairly regularly and I also learned recently that you can actually obtain a negative result without even taking the test.

It would be open to abuse and therefore I'm not sure how helpful they would be.

I appreciate someone who is double vaccinated could also be positive so there is that potential pitfall as well but I think the idea is to drive up vaccination rates and to also ensure that if there is an outbreak at an event like this, it will do a limited amount of damage as every adult will be fully vaccinated and therefore less likely to get seriously ill if they do get infected.

[Coco Bryce]

The players aren't in contact with the public though.

They are in their everyday lives though like us :confused:

[GreenCastle]

Supermarkets etc don’t require vaccine passports. If they’re going to a nightclub they’ll need one. If not they won’t.

They’re not sitting in amongst the paying public at the football, they’re on the pitch doing their work in a very safe environment with little risk.

Yeah I get that - outdoors is minimal risk.

I'm trying to explain this players bubble is really nonsense and that the players aren't interacting with the public away from ER as they are. Boyle sitting on a flight to Oz for example with the public - going to the airport etc and meeting many others.

Nisbet on Scotland duty also - there will be Scotland players who don't have 2 jabs.

I'm not saying they need a vaccine passport - I'm pointing out the inconsistencies with the situation.

[TheSouthMoroccan]

Being a thicko here I suspect, but downloaded the app, gave it permission to use my phone camera, used it to scan my second dose QR code and that seems to be it other than the option to press the dismiss button and scan again. Is that it or should I be in padded room for dafties ?

[Zambernardi1875]

Yeah I get that - outdoors is minimal risk.

I'm trying to explain this players bubble is really nonsense and that the players aren't interacting with the public away from ER as they are. Boyle sitting on a flight to Oz for example with the public - going to the airport etc and meeting many others.

Nisbet on Scotland duty also - there will be Scotland players who don't have 2 jabs.

I'm not saying they need a vaccine passport - I'm pointing out the inconsistencies with the situation.

You’re also proving how stupid and a waste of time this vaccine passport.
There’s no proof that Covid cases increase do to football and nightclubs and if there was it’s all abit late now anyway

[green day]

Yeah I get that - outdoors is minimal risk.

I'm trying to explain this players bubble is really nonsense and that the players aren't interacting with the public away from ER as they are. Boyle sitting on a flight to Oz for example with the public - going to the airport etc and meeting many others.

Nisbet on Scotland duty also - there will be Scotland players who don't have 2 jabs.

I'm not saying they need a vaccine passport - I'm pointing out the inconsistencies with the situation.

Not sure about the international angle - Players without 2 jags will struggle to fly anywhere these days.

[GreenCastle]

Not sure about the international angle - Players without 2 jags will struggle to fly anywhere these days.

Fair point but guess it depends which country you fly to and whether it's a private or public plane.

Several England players aren't double jabbed and they have flown to games recently.

[Jay]

Being a thicko here I suspect, but downloaded the app, gave it permission to use my phone camera, used it to scan my second dose QR code and that seems to be it other than the option to press the dismiss button and scan again. Is that it or should I be in padded room for dafties ?


I had to scan my ID not my QR code, it may have changed though. After it accepted my ID it moved onto the next step

[Peevemor]

They are in their everyday lives though like us :confused:

But you don't need a vaccine certificate in everyday life - you do to go and watch certain football matches.

Whether there are 1k or 15k at the match changes nothing in terms of risk to or from the players.

[Perfect Hatrick]

Fair point but guess it depends which country you fly to and whether it's a private or public plane.

Several England players aren't double jabbed and they have flown to games recently.

You know that about England players? Not saying it isn’t true, it’s something I had just been thinking about when Scotland were playing and presumed they’d all have to be jagged to go abroad or else they’d have to spend a long time in quarantine.

[hibbyfraelibby]

What if if you use your mates season ticket with his vaccine certificate ?
They are aski g you to carry photo ID toi if you read it fully

[TheSouthMoroccan]

I had to scan my ID not my QR code, it may have changed though. After it accepted my ID it moved onto the next step

Understand thanks

[JimBHibees]

You know that about England players? Not saying it isn’t true, it’s something I had just been thinking about when Scotland were playing and presumed they’d all have to be jagged to go abroad or else they’d have to spend a long time in quarantine.

Sure there was an article saying something like 4 or 5 players in England squad hadn't been vaccinated

[Brightside]

I'd be amazed if most if not all our player weren't double jabbed

The chat is 40% of pro footballers aren’t double jagged. Hard to confirm obv.

[Brightside]

The players aren't in contact with the public though.

Yes they are. They are out in pubs, restaurants etc same as all of us.

[Brightside]

Not sure about the international angle - Players without 2 jags will struggle to fly anywhere these days.

Players don’t need 2 jags to fly.

[Peevemor]

Yes they are. They are out in pubs, restaurants etc same as all of us.

Not in the stadium.

[Brightside]

Not in the stadium.

So when they come into the sponsors area for pictures etc? Players fully mingle with the general public now. They should be forced (like us) to be double jabbed.

[hibbysam]

Being a thicko here I suspect, but downloaded the app, gave it permission to use my phone camera, used it to scan my second dose QR code and that seems to be it other than the option to press the dismiss button and scan again. Is that it or should I be in padded room for dafties ?

You’ve downloaded the wrong app I expect. I think you have downloaded the app for businesses which is for scanning your QR code. You need the app which you have to login to and saves your own vaccine passport. Think the link is on the Nhs inform website.

[GreenCastle]

You’ve downloaded the wrong app I expect. I think you have downloaded the app for businesses which is for scanning your QR code. You need the app which you have to login to and saves your own vaccine passport. Think the link is on the Nhs inform website.

https://www.nhsinform.scot/nhs-scotland-covid-status

This one here :aok:

[007]

What if if you use your mates season ticket with his vaccine certificate ?

Then you've broken the rules. How does your mate get in without his season ticket?