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Unseen work
23-09-2021, 11:35 AM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/7742835/hibs-kevin-nisbet-new-deal-stay/

Looks like we’re close to agreeing a new deal with Nisbet.

You’d imagine with him and Boyle getting these they will now be on a fair bit of money a week and likely be our top earners.

Imagine Porteous will be next.

Hopefully get Doidge’s contact sorted soon too once he’s back from injury and then there’s Scott Allan, all depends what he can do between now and January.

Torto7
23-09-2021, 11:43 AM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/7742835/hibs-kevin-nisbet-new-deal-stay/

Looks like we’re close to agreeing a new deal with Nisbet.

You’d imagine with him and Boyle getting these they will now be on a fair bit of money a week and likely be our top earners.

Imagine Porteous will be next.

Hopefully get Doidge’s contact sorted soon too once he’s back from injury and then there’s Scott Allan, all depends what he can do between now and January.

Ron isnt messing around thats for sure. I will be interested to see how much higher the wage bill is when the accounts are released. Keeping Boyle and Nisbet is better than any signing we could realistically make. Its a good time to be a hibby.

SHODAN
23-09-2021, 11:44 AM
Would be quite extraordinary if we could keep him tbh, considering how desperate he was to go in January.

Unseen work
23-09-2021, 11:50 AM
Would be quite extraordinary if we could keep him tbh, considering how desperate he was to go in January.

This is nothing other than an opinion, but I can’t help but feel like he would have learned a lot from that move not going through.

Cosgrove went to Birmingham, hardly kicked a ball and is now out on loan at Shrewsbury. Birmingham would have been an awful move for him as they were kicking about the relegation zone.

Now maybe he’s realising that if he’s patient and does the job at Hibs he can earn more money plus wait until the right club comes along.

It felt a bit like he was in a rush to make up for lost time having dropped to Raith and worked his way back up.

Hopefully he continues and improves on his form and goals return.

The only thing he’s lacking for me is the expectancy for him to score. In big games etc I don’t have the same feeling I did with Cummings, Riordan, Griffiths etc that he would pop up with a goal.

Mr. Wonderful
23-09-2021, 11:54 AM
Hopefully once he's signed it his performance levels will improve again, his goals tally without taking penalties isn't looking great this season so far and he looked a yard off it at the weekend.

lord bunberry
23-09-2021, 12:16 PM
Great news if he signs a new deal. I still don’t see him being here long term, but he must be reasonably settled if he’s signing a new contract.

eastterrace
23-09-2021, 12:27 PM
Hopefully once he's signed it his performance levels will improve again, his goals tally without taking penalties isn't looking great this season so far and he looked a yard off it at the weekend.
Got to agree he has looked sluggish last few games so maybe this playing on his mind.

JammyDoidger
23-09-2021, 12:29 PM
He has the quality that's for sure, but he needs to start showing it more consistently, he was awful at the weekend. Needs a big performance tonight and to start showing it in the 'bigger' games.

Vault Boy
23-09-2021, 12:32 PM
Good news, hopefully wrapped up quickly so he can fully refocus on the year ahead. We're relying upon him rather heavily.

Smartie
23-09-2021, 12:38 PM
Since getting in to see Hibs in the flesh I haven't been blown away by Nisbet so far this season.

I don't think the formation suits him that well but he's not been in good form.

If Doidge was fit then I'd be starting him in that position right now with Nisbet on the bench and having to raise his game to get a look in.

FWIW I think Nisbet is a cracking player who can improve further but he needs to start showing us more than he has in recent weeks.

ian cruise
23-09-2021, 12:38 PM
he wasn't well and there's a good chance he's suffering a hangover from that. Even a regular virus can knock people for 6 afterwards.

Nisbet is unfortunately being asked to play because we failed to recruit a striker. There is talk about his attitude and level of effort right now (not saying from yourself). We should give him a break and support him, not allow ourselves to get frustrated. We know he's off for 6, he'll know he's off form. Having him snatch at chances or feeling overly pressured won't do anyone bar our opposition any favours.

rodhibs55
23-09-2021, 12:39 PM
This is nothing other than an opinion, but I can’t help but feel like he would have learned a lot from that move not going through.

Cosgrove went to Birmingham, hardly kicked a ball and is now out on loan at Shrewsbury. Birmingham would have been an awful move for him as they were kicking about the relegation zone.

Now maybe he’s realising that if he’s patient and does the job at Hibs he can earn more money plus wait until the right club comes along.

It felt a bit like he was in a rush to make up for lost time having dropped to Raith and worked his way back up.

Hopefully he continues and improves on his form and goals return.

The only thing he’s lacking for me is the expectancy for him to score. In big games etc I don’t have the same feeling I did with Cummings, Riordan, Griffiths etc that he would pop up with a goal.

Maybe he has had a chat with Super John while away on Scotland duty. SJM bided his time and got a great move that suited him and the club.
Good news story anyway, seems to be in a happy place, hopefully he will kick on again.

heretoday
23-09-2021, 12:40 PM
Nisbet's got that hangdog expression so often seen on the faces of Hibs strikers through the years.

Bangkok Hibby
23-09-2021, 12:46 PM
Great to hear we're in negotiations with him. The extra dough might help to put a smile on his coupon. He's starting to remind me of Morelos! 😦
Seriously, good news though and the eventual return of Doidge will spark him further.

LunasBoots
23-09-2021, 01:14 PM
You can't really think he's been good recently? Awful in the Derby, miles away at the weekend. Hope he's not suffering adverse effects from his illness.

Yet again, a perceived negative opinion and you don't want to hear it so I should be launched. Things aren't always going to be great, get over it.

Hasn't been great recently, I think the absence of Doidge effects him quite a bit, he will come good though.

Allez Hibs
23-09-2021, 01:24 PM
Nisbet has 3 goals from 9 in all competitions and 1 goal from 4 league games so far this season.

SunshineOn1875
23-09-2021, 01:33 PM
But are you happy we are trying to tie him down on a new deal? Nice to see the positives in situations and there is a lot to be positive about Hibs at the moment :agree:

"Hopefully once he's signed it his performance levels will improve again" He literally said this at the top of the page. Of course he does, his performances have slipped, as could be the same for mcginn etc. He will come good, just lacking a bit confidence.

Allez Hibs
23-09-2021, 01:35 PM
"Hopefully once he's signed it his performance levels will improve again" He literally said this at the top of the page. Of course he does, his performances have slipped, as could be the same for mcginn etc. He will come good, just lacking a bit confidence.

Yep, we'll all be happy once he starts scoring regularly again.

SunshineOn1875
23-09-2021, 01:37 PM
Yep, we'll all be happy once he starts scoring regularly again.

I agree mate. There's a great young player in there, people forget hes only 24 and still learning on the job, looking forward to seeing him in green for a while longer.

Iggy Pope
23-09-2021, 01:40 PM
Nisbet's got that hangdog expression so often seen on the faces of Hibs strikers through the years.

Lawrie Reilly, Joe Baker, Colin Stein, Alan Gordon, Jimmy O’Rourke, Gordon Durie, Stevie Cowan, Keith Wright, Darren Jackson, Derek Riordan, Steven Fletcher, Chris Killen, Jason Cummings, Dom Malonga. With the possible exception of Anthony Stokes, Gary O’Connor and Leigh Griffiths (and not because of their expression) I’d take any of them to meet my mum.

Unseen work
23-09-2021, 01:42 PM
I agree mate. There's a great young player in there, people forget hes only 24 and still learning on the job, looking forward to seeing him in green for a while longer.

I actually think the opposite to be honest regards his age, for me I think people think he’s about 22.

I know it’s not a huge difference as he just turned 24 in March but it may make a difference how much teams are willing to pay for him they might think he’s close to his full potential etc.

Mr. Wonderful
23-09-2021, 01:42 PM
But are you happy we are trying to tie him down on a new deal? Nice to see the positives in situations and there is a lot to be positive about Hibs at the moment :agree:

I'm delighted he's keen on it, considering the situation we were in with him not so long ago.

Not In The Know
23-09-2021, 01:46 PM
I've been quick to criticise him recently but getting him on a new contract can only be a good thing for both parties. Dont for get hes' a young lad and had a lot to deal with in a short space of time and and off the pitch. Cant blame him for his head being scrambled. Hopefully this will allow him a settled period he can just concentrate on football.

SunshineOn1875
23-09-2021, 01:50 PM
I actually think the opposite to be honest regards his age, for me I think people think he’s about 22.

I know it’s not a huge difference as he just turned 24 in March but it may make a difference how much teams are willing to pay for him they might think he’s close to his full potential etc.

Yeah I can understand that. Just thinking as he could still have another 7/8 years left in him at the top level before starting to fade away depending on injuries etc. Think its hard for him to play the lone striker role and thought he looked much better when doidge/scott doing the dirty work that he doesn't enjoy.

MWHIBBIES
23-09-2021, 02:16 PM
Wasn't seriously linked with anyone all summer. Pretty obvious he wants to be here. Quality player. Goals will come, keeps getting himself into good positions

jeffers
23-09-2021, 02:16 PM
From Nisbet’s point of view I don’t get why he wouldn’t sign a new deal. I can’t see it making much, if any, difference to any fee we would get for him, but he gets an increase in pay now that reflects his contribution to the team.

CentreLine
23-09-2021, 03:02 PM
KN has so much to offer and shows it in flashes but we really could use him turning up week in week out. He reminds me a lot of Darren Jackson, seriously good player but can be posted missing

Bostonhibby
23-09-2021, 03:10 PM
Lawrie Reilly, Joe Baker, Colin Stein, Alan Gordon, Jimmy O’Rourke, Gordon Durie, Stevie Cowan, Keith Wright, Darren Jackson, Derek Riordan, Steven Fletcher, Chris Killen, Jason Cummings, Dom Malonga. With the possible exception of Anthony Stokes, Gary O’Connor and Leigh Griffiths (and not because of their expression) I’d take any of them to meet my mum.[emoji16]

That's my vote for post of the year sorted out.

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flash
23-09-2021, 03:31 PM
What does that even mean? It's not uncommon for you to have plenty to say about other posters views and at times poking fun.

Nisbet hasn't exactly set the world a light this season has he? I'd even question if he's as good as he thinks he is given that he's 24.

How good does he think he is and how did you find out?

WeeRussell
23-09-2021, 03:38 PM
How good does he think he is and how did you find out?

And how does someone’s age relate to how good they think they are compared to how good they actually are?

DanishJohn
23-09-2021, 03:41 PM
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That's my vote for post of the year sorted out.

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Boston

Sorry but have to disagree with you.

Iggy listed players who he would take home to meet his mum. The guy he has missed out...my auld man would have barged my mother out his way to shake the guys hand!

One of Govan's finest. The late great Joe McBride. By his own admission he reckoned the finest goal he ever scored was for Hibs against Celtic ER 1970. I was there.
The irony is in who the opposition were. He was a Celtic legend brought in to replace Stein. He was better than Stein and in that first season scored more goals than Stein.

Iggy , your mum would have liked him.

Bostonhibby
23-09-2021, 03:44 PM
Boston

Sorry but have to disagree with you.

Iggy listed players who he would take home to meet his mum. The guy he has missed out...my auld man would have barged my mother out his way to shake the guys hand!

One of Govan's finest. The late great Joe McBride. By his own admission he reckoned the finest goal he ever scored was for Hibs against Celtic ER 1970. I was there.
The irony is in who the opposition were. He was a Celtic legend brought in to replace Stein. He was better than Stein and in that first season scored more goals than Stein.

Iggy , your mum would have liked him.Yeah, I can live with that.

Joe McBride turned out to be a whole lot better than I thought given how it was at the time.

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blackpoolhibs
23-09-2021, 03:44 PM
ALLEZ HIBS, How good do you think he thinks you think he is? :confused:

Jay
23-09-2021, 03:45 PM
I've just spent way too long editing and deleting posts to try and keep this thread on track. Can we try to keep away from personal digs and keep on topic before a perfectly good thread ends up locked

Bostonhibby
23-09-2021, 03:46 PM
ALLEZ HIBS, How good do you think he thinks you think he is? :confused:Highest accolade level. Reached the point where the thieves tried to sign him but he stuck with Hibs so they had to deny it. Doesn't get any better.

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Bostonhibby
23-09-2021, 03:46 PM
I've just spent way too long editing and deleting posts to try and keep this thread on track. Can we try to keep away from personal digs and keep on topic before a perfectly good thread ends up locked[emoji106]

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CropleyWasGod
23-09-2021, 03:52 PM
Lawrie Reilly, Joe Baker, Colin Stein, Alan Gordon, Jimmy O’Rourke, Gordon Durie, Stevie Cowan, Keith Wright, Darren Jackson, Derek Riordan, Steven Fletcher, Chris Killen, Jason Cummings, Dom Malonga. With the possible exception of Anthony Stokes, Gary O’Connor and Leigh Griffiths (and not because of their expression) I’d take any of them to meet my mum.

I'd take Peter Cormack home to meet my Mum..... so that she could kick the **** out of him for ruining many a Saturday evening in our house in the 60's.

(we had a family connection with the Cormacks, so my Dad held him to a higher standard than just about anyone in World fitba' :greengrin)

Bostonhibby
23-09-2021, 03:58 PM
I'd take Peter Cormack home to meet my Mum..... so that she could kick the **** out of him for ruining many a Saturday evening in our house in the 60's.

(we had a family connection with the Cormacks, so my Dad held him to a higher standard than just about anyone in World fitba' :greengrin)Okay, count him in as well.

Now let me get going about Erich Schaedler......

My mum did meet him.

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neil7908
23-09-2021, 04:23 PM
I think Hibs is the right place for him. Good player but still plenty of growing to do. At Hibs he's in the Scotland squad, one of the first names on the teamsheet every week and plays in a team that like to attack.

I'm not sure he's quite ready yet for a move down south, especially if he ends up at a club in a relegation battle.

EVENTUALLY
23-09-2021, 04:27 PM
Boston

Sorry but have to disagree with you.

Iggy listed players who he would take home to meet his mum. The guy he has missed out...my auld man would have barged my mother out his way to shake the guys hand!

One of Govan's finest. The late great Joe McBride. By his own admission he reckoned the finest goal he ever scored was for Hibs against Celtic ER 1970. I was there.
The irony is in who the opposition were. He was a Celtic legend brought in to replace Stein. He was better than Stein and in that first season scored more goals than Stein.

Iggy , your mum would have liked him.

Great player. One of the finest strikers of a ball I've ever seen.

BILLYHIBS
23-09-2021, 04:46 PM
Everybody’s maw would have liked Gordon Smith ‘ The Prince of Wingers’ with those film star looks and his flashy MG

Anyone remember what Hollywood movie he was in ?

Agree with everyone on Joe McBride SNR

Absolute legend

Ringothedog
23-09-2021, 04:56 PM
Everybody’s maw would have liked Gordon Smith ‘ The Prince of Wingers’ with those film star looks and his flashy MG

Anyone remember what Hollywood movie he was in ?

Agree with everyone on Joe McBride SNR

Absolute legend

To catch a thief

BILLYHIBS
23-09-2021, 05:11 PM
To catch a thief

👍🏿

Mr. Wonderful
23-09-2021, 09:06 PM
Put in a good shift tonight, needs to find a way to make himself more of a threat more often again.

Winston Ingram
23-09-2021, 09:09 PM
Abysmal again tonight.

Mr. Wonderful
23-09-2021, 09:11 PM
Abysmal again tonight.

Careful. You'll be accused of being at the wind up

Sean1875
23-09-2021, 09:11 PM
Really think he’s struggling without Doidge.


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green day
23-09-2021, 09:12 PM
Abysmal again tonight.

Needs a "Doidge" to play off.

Winston Ingram
23-09-2021, 09:14 PM
Really think he’s struggling without Doidge.


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He’s going to need to learn if he’s wanting that big money move. Nobody in the big leagues buy strikers that need partners these days.

Willis1875
23-09-2021, 09:15 PM
Seems to lack anticipation in the box,just not doing it just now

Stuart93
23-09-2021, 09:17 PM
Poor again tonight. Nothing came off for him and touch like an elephant.

Needs to find form again quickly

Shrekko
23-09-2021, 09:18 PM
Really think he’s struggling without Doidge.


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Whole team is missing him- we’re treading on water at the moment and really should have managed to get in a physical striker before the window shut.

Nisbet is going to have to adapt as his lack of physicality is sticking out like a sore thumb when we’re looking for him to be a focal point.

I think he’s capable of great things at times but don’t like the way his head seems to drop and how slow he is to react to things at times. Needs to buck up.

Stevie Reid
23-09-2021, 09:20 PM
Find it hard to grumble about Nisbet being poor when we’ve scored three goals in an away win.

Just wasn’t in the game tonight, and made the wrong choices when he was involved.

Zero concerns whatsoever.

Winston Ingram
23-09-2021, 09:20 PM
Seems to lack anticipation in the box,just not doing it just now

Not just in the box. He’s second to everything outside as well. Half our problem 2nd half was when the ball went forward to him he wasn’t there to compete for it never mind hold it up.

Willis1875
23-09-2021, 09:22 PM
Not just in the box. He’s second to everything outside as well. Half our problem 2nd half was when the ball went forward to him he wasn’t there to compete for it never mind hold it up.

True,there’s generally a lot of balls that get thrown into the box by Hibs and he never seems to be anywhere near any of them.Granted heading isn’t his strong point but a lot of crosses are low into feet types.I’m not sure he would be starting if Doidge was fit

Winston Ingram
23-09-2021, 09:24 PM
True,there’s generally a lot of balls that get thrown into the box by Hibs and he never seems to be anywhere near any of them.Granted heading isn’t his strong point but a lot of crosses are low into feet types.I’m not sure he would be starting if Doidge was fit

Totally agree. He doesn’t seem to have that desire to get goals at the moment. Always seems to be on his heels.

Willis1875
23-09-2021, 09:26 PM
Totally agree. He doesn’t seem to have that desire to get goals at the moment. Always seems to be on his heels.

Think he has something like 4 league goals since his rumoured failed move to England in January,Not great

Potty78
23-09-2021, 09:29 PM
Not his biggest fan if honest, hopefully he'll prove me wrong though!

Unseen work
23-09-2021, 09:31 PM
He needs to up his performances by quite a bit and get in amongst the goals again.

Not only is he not playing well right now but he seems very very sulky and constantly throwing his hands up. When he first signed he was everywhere and never gave the opposition a seconds rest.

He needs that fire in his belly again.

I said when we never brought in another striker it could have a negative impact on Nisbet as hell start
every game with no competition and it’s looking like it.

Heisenberg
23-09-2021, 09:32 PM
Scott isn’t looking like a brilliant backup option/second striker either at the moment. Not ideal.

Shrekko
23-09-2021, 09:34 PM
Always seems to be on his heels.
Lost count of the amount of times I uttered that phrase on Saturday. He is so talented it’s very frustrating at times.

RossScott1991
23-09-2021, 09:41 PM
Nisbet is simply better when Doidge is on the pitch and Boyle is pushed wider.

I love Doidge might not be the most pleasing on eye and goes spells without goals but works his socks off and brings something different , can’t wait til he’s back and it will be no coincidence nisbet will then start playing better

GRA
23-09-2021, 09:44 PM
Nisbet needs Doidge back ASAP he knows how to get the best out of him.

From what I've seen of Scott thus far he's nowhere near good enough to be in a Hibs shirt, runs about aimlessly committing fouls.

Brightside
23-09-2021, 09:45 PM
He’s doing nothing wrong in the current system.

Willis1875
23-09-2021, 09:53 PM
He’s doing nothing in the current system.
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Brightside
23-09-2021, 10:06 PM
Edited

Please don’t edit. We were 3-0 up. I reckon JR would have been happy.

Willis1875
23-09-2021, 10:09 PM
Please don’t edit. We were 3-0 up. I reckon JR would have been happy.

He’s not at the races,not even close and hasn’t been for a while.Needs to up it which I hope he does as he’s a good player when he wants to be

Allez Hibs
23-09-2021, 10:27 PM
Careful. You'll be accused of being at the wind up

Yep, Nisbet was awful tonight.

Hibee Mac
23-09-2021, 10:45 PM
Don't like the way Nisbet seems to love a moan, huffing and puffing everytime he doesn't get a pass. Sometimes it seems like even if someone was well within their right to take a shot in the box he'll moan about not getting the pass, don't like that.

Needs to be more positive and get stuck in a bit more for me. Scott looks below our standard on his showings so far, so he's not getting any competition until Doidge is back ...

Brightside
23-09-2021, 10:52 PM
Yep, Nisbet was awful tonight.

From that we can assume he was top class. 👍

Allez Hibs
23-09-2021, 10:54 PM
From that we can assume he was top class. 👍

Were you even watching the game?

Hiber-nation
23-09-2021, 11:05 PM
Please don’t edit. We were 3-0 up. I reckon JR would have been happy.

Did you see JR in the 2nd half? He was raging.

Nisbet was really poor again.

Vault Boy
23-09-2021, 11:42 PM
He'll find his goalscoring form again, no doubt. Good news is we've got others chipping in at the moment.

B.H.F.C
23-09-2021, 11:46 PM
He'll find his goalscoring form again, no doubt. Good news is we've got others chipping in at the moment.

Goals will come back but he needs to improve his general play. Three poor games on the trot, he’s just not at it just now. If Doidge was available he’d be looking at a seat on the bench. Needs to improve.

marinello59
23-09-2021, 11:51 PM
Goals will come back but he needs to improve his general play. Three poor games on the trot, he’s just not at it just now. If Doidge was available he’d be looking at a seat on the bench. Needs to improve.

If Doidge was there he’d have the partner his game needs.

Torto7
24-09-2021, 12:24 AM
Lets support the lad. He's putting in 90 mins most weeks on his own whilst Doidge is out and Scott is getting up to speed. Boyle is showing signs of fatigue as well. It wasn't so long ago Doidge couldn't buy a goal and that came around eventually.

marinello59
24-09-2021, 12:36 AM
Lets support the lad. He's putting in 90 mins most weeks on his own whilst Doidge is out and Scott is getting up to speed. Boyle is showing signs of fatigue as well. It wasn't so long ago Doidge couldn't buy a goal and that came around eventually.

:top marks

Wheat Hound
24-09-2021, 01:26 AM
Lets support the lad. He's putting in 90 mins most weeks on his own whilst Doidge is out and Scott is getting up to speed. Boyle is showing signs of fatigue as well. It wasn't so long ago Doidge couldn't buy a goal and that came around eventually.

Top shout.

The boy has talent, no doubt, and if supported will get back on form.

HoboHarry
24-09-2021, 02:39 AM
Lets support the lad. He's putting in 90 mins most weeks on his own whilst Doidge is out and Scott is getting up to speed. Boyle is showing signs of fatigue as well. It wasn't so long ago Doidge couldn't buy a goal and that came around eventually.
Well said mate. :top marks

Winston Ingram
24-09-2021, 06:09 AM
Think he has something like 4 league goals since his rumoured failed move to England in January,Not great

He only scored 11 league goals from open play last season as well. Average goal record, not quick, can't hold the ball up, poor 1st touch, poor work rate. I really don't get the hype with this guy.

Winston Ingram
24-09-2021, 06:15 AM
Nisbet is simply better when Doidge is on the pitch and Boyle is pushed wider.

I love Doidge might not be the most pleasing on the eye and goes spells without goals but works his socks off and brings something different, can’t wait till he’s back and it will be no coincidence Nisbet will then start playing better

The problem with that is when we play a front 2 Boyle is pushed further back into wing-back and is therefore less effective. It's no coincidence that Boyle has started the season far better this year as he's playing high, wide on the right in nearly every game.

Borderhibbie76
24-09-2021, 06:24 AM
Scott isn’t looking like a brilliant backup option/second striker either at the moment. Not ideal.

Sadly so far he looks a very poor player...was horrendous when he came on...constantly gave the ball away. Massive improvement needed from him tbh

blackpoolhibs
24-09-2021, 06:43 AM
He’s doing nothing wrong in the current system.

I dont think he's making nearly enough runs into space, or holding the ball up good enough when he does receive the ball.

Is he missing doidge, is he tired, is he not 100% fit, i dont know?

What i do see is someone not playing as well as we all know he can.

Coco Bryce
24-09-2021, 06:45 AM
Lets support the lad. He's putting in 90 mins most weeks on his own whilst Doidge is out and Scott is getting up to speed. Boyle is showing signs of fatigue as well. It wasn't so long ago Doidge couldn't buy a goal and that came around eventually.

Where did anyone say we weren't supporting him? All that is being discussed is the lad is nowhere near contributing enough this season.

Allant1981
24-09-2021, 06:50 AM
Should have scored the one that went along the face of the goal, doidge would have scored that chance, he seems to be off it just now but all players go through patches of bad form.

Peevemor
24-09-2021, 06:54 AM
Should have scored the one that went along the face of the goal, doidge would have scored that chance, he seems to be off it just now but all players go through patches of bad form.

It was just too far in front of him. He also seemed to be changing direction at the same time which meant he couldn't shift his weight in the right direction quite quickly enough.

JimBHibees
24-09-2021, 07:01 AM
Should have scored the one that went along the face of the goal, doidge would have scored that chance, he seems to be off it just now but all players go through patches of bad form.

Just couldn't reach it.

lord bunberry
24-09-2021, 07:01 AM
He looks a bit jaded to me. He’s not had a huge amount of time off in the last 18 months, but sadly we don’t have any other options. He’s not even getting a break during the international games. A couple of goals on Sunday will perk him up a bit.

Coco Bryce
24-09-2021, 07:03 AM
He only scored 11 league goals from open play last season as well. Average goal record, not quick, can't hold the ball up, poor 1st touch, poor work rate. I really don't get the hype with this guy.

I agree. Any other player would be getting ripped apart on here for performances like this.

easty
24-09-2021, 07:03 AM
Where did anyone say we weren't supporting him? All that is being discussed is the lad is nowhere near contributing enough this season.

It’s only been the last few games, not the whole season. I thought he looked great at the start of the season. I thought he was excellent against Motherwell but didn’t get a goal. Then scored against Killie and Livi.

Last 3 games, Hearts, St Mirren, Dundee Utd he’s not been at his best, but he’s obviously a good player.

He’ll score on Sunday.

easty
24-09-2021, 07:05 AM
He only scored 11 league goals from open play last season as well. Average goal record, not quick, can't hold the ball up, poor 1st touch, poor work rate. I really don't get the hype with this guy.

You don’t have to get it. Jack Ross does. Steve Clarke does. Other teams want to sign him.

Nisbet has quality.

Allez Hibs
24-09-2021, 07:13 AM
He only scored 11 league goals from open play last season as well. Average goal record, not quick, can't hold the ball up, poor 1st touch, poor work rate. I really don't get the hype with this guy.

Agreed. Doesn't look hungry enough for me. He could have got himself a goal last night if he was more as alert and bust he's gut making runs.

Coco Bryce
24-09-2021, 07:14 AM
It’s only been the last few games, not the whole season. I thought he looked great at the start of the season. I thought he was excellent against Motherwell but didn’t get a goal. Then scored against Killie and Livi.

Last 3 games, Hearts, St Mirren, Dundee Utd he’s not been at his best, but he’s obviously a good player.

He’ll score on Sunday.

We know he has the ability. But there seems to be something wrong with him just now. He really doesn't look fit or interested for that matter.

That is a major worry for our most valuable asset at the club.

easty
24-09-2021, 07:29 AM
We know he has the ability. But there seems to be something wrong with him just now. He really doesn't look fit or interested for that matter.

That is a major worry for our most valuable asset at the club.

I don’t agree that he doesn’t look fit or interested. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with his fitness at all.

Bobby's Cinema
24-09-2021, 07:29 AM
Agreed. Doesn't look hungry enough for me. He could have got himself a goal last night if he was more as alert and bust he's gut making runs.

He threw himself at the ball it was his starting position vs the cross. No amount of gut busting was changing that.

Did have to remind myself he was on the park at times, it doesn't say alot for Scott that Ross only gives him the 5mins when that change could have been made much earlier.

I thought he was shaking his head going off but put that down to a striker disappointed at lack of goals rather than anything untoward. He will be back and I predict amongst the goals on Sunday.

Winston Ingram
24-09-2021, 07:32 AM
He’s doing nothing wrong in the current system.

I'm sorry but that's nonsense. He's the central striker in what is effectively a front 3 and pretty much every time the ball is played into him with a defender behind him, he loses it.

flash
24-09-2021, 07:33 AM
I don’t agree that he doesn’t look fit or interested. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with his fitness at all.

I agree. He needs a goal simple as that. If he wasn't interested he wouldn't get frustrated.

Springbank
24-09-2021, 07:36 AM
Well I think Kevin Nisbet has loads of quality

Going through a slight barren patch (but still linking play)

And it's a team game - if you were Aberdeen, you'd be crying out for a striker who gets you to 3, 4, 5 semis on the trot, a final or two, and in the top 4 for 44 games running.

Let's enjoy this team this season

Winston Ingram
24-09-2021, 07:38 AM
You don’t have to get it. Jack Ross does. Steve Clarke does. Other teams want to sign him.

Nisbet has quality.

He does have qualities, he can finish no doubt and uses it well when its under control. Who wants to sign him? We haven't turned down any offers for him since the Birmingham one.

Peevemor
24-09-2021, 07:39 AM
I don’t agree that he doesn’t look fit or interested. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with his fitness at all.

I agree with this even though I'm not as much of a fan of Nisbet as some on here. He's still putting in a shift, drawing defenders and making space for others to exploit.

Spike Mandela
24-09-2021, 07:41 AM
Form is temporary, class is permanent. The laddie has it. I’m confident he’ll go on a run of goals soon.:thumbsup:

Winston Ingram
24-09-2021, 07:42 AM
Well I think Kevin Nisbet has loads of quality

Going through a slight barren patch (but still linking play)

And it's a team game - if you were Aberdeen, you'd be crying out for a striker who gets you to 3, 4, 5 semis on the trot, a final or two, and in the top 4 for 44 games running.

Let's enjoy this team this season

Patch? He's scored 4 league goals since Boxing Day.

easty
24-09-2021, 07:44 AM
I'm sorry but that's nonsense. He's the central striker in what is effectively a front 3 and pretty much every time the ball is played into him with a defender behind him, he loses it.

I think to call it a front 3 is incorrect. With Murphy fit and playing on the left it works like that. Tonight he was up too with Boyle, who allowed to drift wide, so often it was like a lone striker.

easty
24-09-2021, 07:47 AM
He does have qualities, he can finish no doubt and uses it well when its under control. Who wants to sign him? We haven't turned down any offers for him since the Birmingham one.

I’d be willing to bet my house that there are loads of managers/teams who’d love to sign him.

Winston Ingram
24-09-2021, 07:50 AM
I think to call it a front 3 is incorrect. With Murphy fit and playing on the left it works like that. Tonight he was up too with Boyle, who allowed to drift wide, so often it was like a lone striker.

Boyle played in his usual position tonight, wide on the right. Allan played wide left. They ended up playing deeper second half as they were tracking their full-backs and we couldn't get out. A lot of that was down to the fact the ball wouldn't stick when it went forward and they kept coming back at us.

easty
24-09-2021, 07:51 AM
Patch? He's scored 4 league goals since Boxing Day.

He’s actually scored 6 league goals since Boxing Day.

He’s also scored 4 other goals for us since then.

And he also scored for Scotland v Holland.

NORTHERNHIBBY
24-09-2021, 07:52 AM
All forwards get times when the goal dry up. That's when you have to look to others to chip in. More focus on him with Doidge being out and that we didn't bring in another striker in the window.

Winston Ingram
24-09-2021, 07:53 AM
I’d be willing to bet my house that there are loads of managers/teams who’d love to sign him.

I'm sure most managers in the Scottish Premiership would take him if he was free.

easty
24-09-2021, 07:54 AM
I'm sure most managers in the Scottish Premiership would take him if he was free.

Good one

Peevemor
24-09-2021, 07:55 AM
Patch? He's scored 4 league goals since Boxing Day.

We were 3rd top scorers in Scotland last season.

We're currently second top scorers in the league.

In 2 matches in the league cup we've scored 5 goals

In 4 games in the Conference qualifying we scored 7.

In 12 competitive games so far we've scored 24 goals.

Nisbet's played his part in that regardless of how many he himself has scored.

Winston Ingram
24-09-2021, 07:58 AM
He’s actually scored 6 league goals since Boxing Day.

He’s also scored 4 other goals for us since then.

And he also scored for Scotland v Holland.

We're both wrong. It's 5 league goals in his last 20 appearances. 1 this season. 4 last - since Boxing day.

superfurryhibby
24-09-2021, 07:59 AM
He’s actually scored 6 league goals since Boxing Day.

He’s also scored 4 other goals for us since then.

And he also scored for Scotland v Holland.

21 goals in all competitions last season, as well as international debut and a goal against Holland. Not a bad return for a player in their first season in top flight domestic football. There's not been many Hibs strikers scoring more than 20 goals per season in the past 40 years or more (Leigh and Deeks?).

This season hasn't been wonderful, not helped by Doidge's absence and Nisbet playing a role that is less suited to his game. That said, surely the news that he is negotiating an new contract has to be good news for any HIbs fan?

easty
24-09-2021, 08:00 AM
We're both wrong. It's 5 league goals in 20 appearances. 1 this season. 4 last - since Boxing day.

Aye you’re right.

Tambo
24-09-2021, 08:00 AM
Has he ever played the role he has been asked to do at the moment?

Really hope Jack goes with Nisbet And Scott Sunday as Nisbet vs 3 St Johnstone CB's will get eaten up all day.

easty
24-09-2021, 08:05 AM
Has he ever played the role he has been asked to do at the moment?

Really hope Jack goes with Nisbet And Scott Sunday as Nisbet vs 3 St Johnstone CB's will get eaten up all day.

I’d be amazed if Scott gets a start.

lucky
24-09-2021, 08:06 AM
He might not be scoring much but his link up play and overall contribution has improved since he joined Hibs. I actually think he’s missing Doidge, as a two they were excellent.

Winston Ingram
24-09-2021, 08:07 AM
Has he ever played the role he has been asked to do at the moment?

Really hope Jack goes with Nisbet And Scott Sunday as Nisbet vs 3 St Johnstone CB's will get eaten up all day.

St Johnstone defenders will eat him up and spit him out just like they did last season. I agree he needs a partner. Only problem with that is limits Boyle as he has to play deeper.

Brightside
24-09-2021, 08:08 AM
I'm sorry but that's nonsense. He's the central striker in what is effectively a front 3 and pretty much every time the ball is played into him with a defender behind him, he loses it.

We haven’t played a front 3 for a while. He’s a lone striker.

Since90+2
24-09-2021, 08:13 AM
St Johnstone defenders will eat him up and spit him out just like they did last season. I agree he needs a partner. Only problem with that is limits Boyle as he has to play deeper.

Fancy him to score on Sunday now.

Winston Ingram
24-09-2021, 08:21 AM
Fancy him to score on Sunday now.

Fingers crossed

Allant1981
24-09-2021, 08:23 AM
It was just too far in front of him. He also seemed to be changing direction at the same time which meant he couldn't shift his weight in the right direction quite quickly enough.

Aye im possibly being unfair on him

BegbieHSC
24-09-2021, 08:50 AM
Messi still hasn’t scored for PSG. He’s only played 3 games for them, but he’ll probably consider that a major drought.

Point is, even the best player ever has spells when the goals dry out.

Nisbet is a quality striker. He just needs that 1 goal to get him back on track.

J-C
24-09-2021, 08:57 AM
Nisbet's lost his mojo at the minute, he seems to have lost that wee smile in his face when he plays and the spring in his step has gone. These things happen to all players especially strikers, he's going through a barren spell and probably needs time out the team but we have no one to replace him with, Scott looks poor and Gullan isn't quoted by Ross.

MWHIBBIES
24-09-2021, 09:06 AM
Folk looking for something that just isn't there. He's doing fine, goals will come. He's getting himself in good positions. General play has been okay-good.

Allez Hibs
24-09-2021, 09:08 AM
Folk looking for something that just isn't there. He's doing fine, goals will come. He's getting himself in good positions. General play has been okay-good.

6 goals for Hibs since Boxing day.

Since90+2
24-09-2021, 09:10 AM
Quality striker. One of the best in the league.

superfurryhibby
24-09-2021, 09:15 AM
Folk looking for something that just isn't there. He's doing fine, goals will come. He's getting himself in good positions. General play has been okay-good.

Totally agree, Nisbet will score 15+ goals this season. Shame he's lost his strike partner, but he'll adapt to a new role and I've no doubt the goals will return.

Coco Bryce
24-09-2021, 09:15 AM
Quality striker. One of the best in the league.

Not even in the top 20 Scorers or Assists this season unfortunately.

GRA
24-09-2021, 09:19 AM
6 goals for Hibs since Boxing day.

Easy to take selected time periods and skew them to suit an agenda.

18 goals for us in his first season (including goals against Rangers & Celtic). Part of a forward line that scored nearly 50 goals last year. Scored for Scotland and got game time during the Euros. I'd say those are pretty good stats for his first season of top flight football.

He'll have dips in form, all strikers do. He's missing Doidge as Scott isn't up to standard. But I've no qualms about his quality, he'll start firing once again and come January we'll be fretful of losing him once again.

lord bunberry
24-09-2021, 09:25 AM
Not even in the top 20 Scorers or Assists this season unfortunately.
Let’s see where he is at the end of the season.

easty
24-09-2021, 09:26 AM
Not even in the top 20 Scorers or Assists this season unfortunately.

19th top scorer has 1 goal...so he's at least joint 19th :confused:

easty
24-09-2021, 09:27 AM
6 goals for Hibs since Boxing day.

9

Coco Bryce
24-09-2021, 09:30 AM
19th top scorer has 1 goal...so he's at least joint 19th :confused:

BBC clearly not bothered to acknowledge this fact then. Typical of them really.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/scottish-premiership/top-scorers

660
24-09-2021, 09:37 AM
Nisbet is the best player at hibs. He’s just struggling playing up front on his own at the moment.

Coco Bryce
24-09-2021, 09:47 AM
Nisbet is the best player at hibs. He’s just struggling playing up front on his own at the moment.

Think Boyler will have something to say about that :greengrin

Since90+2
24-09-2021, 09:47 AM
Nisbet is the best player at hibs. He’s just struggling playing up front on his own at the moment.

I don't think he's as good as Boyle is at the moment, hardly anyone in Scotland is, but he's certainly a quality player and one of the best in the country.

B.H.F.C
24-09-2021, 09:50 AM
If Doidge was there he’d have the partner his game needs.

If he has aspirations to move on to a higher level he’s going to need to get away from this idea of needing someone beside him, few teams play with two strikers these days.

He can play as that one up top but he’s not doing it well enough at the moment IMO. I think he needs to work a bit harder, make more runs and get hold of the ball better. He has the ability.

Mr. Wonderful
24-09-2021, 09:55 AM
I agree. Any other player would be getting ripped apart on here for performances like this.

Kamberi used to get dogs abuse for less.

Allez Hibs
24-09-2021, 09:56 AM
Nisbet is the best player at hibs. He’s just struggling playing up front on his own at the moment.

No chance.

Martin Boyle
Scott Allan

Allez Hibs
24-09-2021, 09:57 AM
Easy to take selected time periods and skew them to suit an agenda.

18 goals for us in his first season (including goals against Rangers & Celtic). Part of a forward line that scored nearly 50 goals last year. Scored for Scotland and got game time during the Euros. I'd say those are pretty good stats for his first season of top flight football.

He'll have dips in form, all strikers do. He's missing Doidge as Scott isn't up to standard. But I've no qualms about his quality, he'll start firing once again and come January we'll be fretful of losing him once again.

Since Boxing Day, that is a pretty significant amount of time.

Winston Ingram
24-09-2021, 09:57 AM
If he has aspirations to move on to a higher level he’s going to need to get away from this idea of needing someone beside him, few teams play with two strikers these days.

He can play as that one up top but he’s not doing it well enough at the moment IMO. I think he needs to work a bit harder, make more runs and get hold of the ball better. He has the ability.

This. I can't think of any top strikers that need a partner.

I also can't think of any good attacking teams, in this country certainly, that play with a front 2. If he can't learn this, this is as high as he's going.

Allez Hibs
24-09-2021, 10:00 AM
Kamberi used to get dogs abuse for less.

There are actually a lot of similarities between Nisbet and Kamberi to be fair.

easty
24-09-2021, 10:02 AM
There are actually a lot of similarities between Nisbet and Kamberi to be fair.

Are there? They don't look the same, they don't play the same way.

What's similar?

Peevemor
24-09-2021, 10:03 AM
Are there? They don't look the same, they don't play the same way.

What's similar?


Nibsnet just needs to work on his stepovers...

Alfred E Newman
24-09-2021, 10:08 AM
Some of the comments on here are ridiculous. Nisbet is a quality player and though he's having a lean spell in front of goals he is still playing a major part in the team performance.
We've just won 3-1 away in a cup quarter final at a tricky venue ffs. I think some folk just like to moan for the sake of it

easty
24-09-2021, 10:14 AM
Some of the comments on here are ridiculous. Nisbet is a quality player and though he's having a lean spell in front of goals he is still playing a major part in the team performance.
We've just won 3-1 away in a cup quarter final at a tricky venue ffs. I think some folk just like to moan for the sake of it

:agree:

Mr. Wonderful
24-09-2021, 10:18 AM
Some of the comments on here are ridiculous. Nisbet is a quality player and though he's having a lean spell in front of goals he is still playing a major part in the team performance.
We've just won 3-1 away in a cup quarter final at a tricky venue ffs. I think some folk just like to moan for the sake of it

Happy with all of the above but when someone is underperforming it can't be ignored. We should've been a way bigger threat on the break 2nd half yesterday but Nisbet wasn't at it, again. He'd initially started the season off really well (imo) without scoring, his touch was better and general linking of play too.

Since the covid thing he's been poor. Kamberi used to get abuse for not holding the ball up enough or giving it away. Nisbet is just as guilty of it.

superfurryhibby
24-09-2021, 10:24 AM
Are there? They don't look the same, they don't play the same way.

What's similar?

There's no similarity at all. Nisbet is a better player than Kamberi will ever be.

It'll be tremendous business for Hibs to get him on an improved contract and extend his stay. We won't become a successful side by selling one of the best young Scottish strikers, we need the best players to stay at the club and build on what we did last year. Nisbet is a key part of the jigsaw.

bigwheel
24-09-2021, 11:01 AM
There are actually a lot of similarities between Nisbet and Kamberi to be fair.

This is an absurd post

we are sitting second top of the league and in a semi final. Rather than congratulate the team , almost all your posts have a negative approach to them …

After all your many posts, I still remain to be convinced you are a Hibs fan.

bigwheel
24-09-2021, 11:03 AM
Happy with all of the above but when someone is underperforming it can't be ignored. We should've been a way bigger threat on the break 2nd half yesterday but Nisbet wasn't at it, again. He'd initially started the season off really well (imo) without scoring, his touch was better and general linking of play too.

Since the covid thing he's been poor. Kamberi used to get abuse for not holding the ball up enough or giving it away. Nisbet is just as guilty of it.

He was excellent against Livi…that was after his Covid issue.

He will be well aware he is not hitting some of the same levels, but as others have said, he is playing a role that won’t be his preference . Let’s support him and let him work through back to his best

Allez Hibs
24-09-2021, 11:14 AM
He was excellent against Livi…that was after his Covid issue.

He will be well aware he is not hitting some of the same levels, but as others have said, he is playing a role that won’t be his preference . Let’s support him and let him work through back to his best

You can think what you want.

It has been mentioned previously that Nisbet is a bit huffy. Kamberi was very huffy. Both players expect things to go their way rather than work their socks off for the team.

Nisbet hasn't been excellent this season by any means. Watched him at the game on Saturday bad cmae away thinking he could work harder.

bigwheel
24-09-2021, 11:22 AM
You can think what you want.

It has been mentioned previously that Nisbet is a bit huffy. Kamberi was very huffy. Both players expect things to go their way rather than work their socks off for the team.

Nisbet hasn't been excellent this season by any means. Watched him at the game on Saturday bad cmae away thinking he could work harder.

Tbh…you will always look for some negative element about Hibs.

Nisbet has had good performances this season . He was excellent call Well on the opening league game. Was the difference be Livi.

Some supporters will look forward to him working his way back to full performance levels, a few will relish criticising him on here. Enjoy picking up a different negative to post about when he finds his form again ….

Mr. Wonderful
24-09-2021, 11:29 AM
He was excellent against Livi…that was after his Covid issue.

He will be well aware he is not hitting some of the same levels, but as others have said, he is playing a role that won’t be his preference . Let’s support him and let him work through back to his best

Scored a good goal but I wouldn't have said anyone was overly great in that game.

superfurryhibby
24-09-2021, 11:42 AM
He was excellent against Livi…that was after his Covid issue.

He will be well aware he is not hitting some of the same levels, but as others have said, he is playing a role that won’t be his preference . Let’s support him and let him work through back to his best

He was indeed very good that day.

Just to return to the original point of the thread, rather than making comparisons with the likes of Kamberi or incorrectly stating the number of goals he has scored since Boxing day or whatever. Surely every Hibs fan is heartened to hear that the club are keen to renegotiate his contract? The way forward for this club is to keep our best players happy and playing football at Hibs.

I still think Nisbet is on a steep learning curve. He made the transition from second tier to top flight football last season, scoring plenty of goals. He's far from the finished article but I think he will keep on improving. There's plenty more to come from him, even although his form hasn't been great thus far into the season.

Springbank
24-09-2021, 11:43 AM
He was indeed very good that day.

Just to return to the original point of the thread Surely every Hibs fan is heartened to hear that the club are keen to renegotiate his contract? The way forward for this club is to keep our best players happy and playing football at Hibs.


100%

Winston Ingram
24-09-2021, 12:41 PM
You can think what you want.

It has been mentioned previously that Nisbet is a bit huffy. Kamberi was very huffy. Both players expect things to go their way rather than work their socks off for the team.

Nisbet hasn't been excellent this season by any means. Watched him at the game on Saturday bad cmae away thinking he could work harder.

He was good away to Motherwell, good at home to Rijeka, he didn't play v Ross County where Doidge was outstanding, he was as good as a man short away in Rijeka, ok v Killie and scored, ok v Livi and scored a great goal, terrible v Hearts, terrible v St Mirren and awful last night.

my left peg
24-09-2021, 10:28 PM
Nisbet is a very good footballer,just as well as we haven't got another striker.

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shetlandhibee
24-09-2021, 11:16 PM
IM0 he should sign any improved contract Hibs are offering, cant see a que off big teams weighing up a big money move anytime soon, has been pretty poor last few games hopefully when doige is back his form improves, hes had the chances as well confidence looks rock bottom in front of goal,

houstonhibbee
25-09-2021, 05:07 AM
IM0 he should sign any improved contract Hibs are offering, cant see a que off big teams weighing up a big money move anytime soon, has been pretty poor last few games hopefully when doige is back his form improves, hes had the chances as well confidence looks rock bottom in front of goal,
We are lucky to have him and he'll come good as he has it all in his locker as he's shown. He's not the finished article but has the potential to follow SJM.

BILLYHIBS
25-09-2021, 07:19 AM
Nisbet is quality but his recent dip in form is a worry

I do not think I would offer him an improved contract just yet

Probably stick it back in the top drawer and hope he gets back on track ASAP

Never in doubt ! :greengrin

JimBHibees
25-09-2021, 07:52 AM
He was good away to Motherwell, good at home to Rijeka, he didn't play v Ross County where Doidge was outstanding, he was as good as a man short away in Rijeka, ok v Killie and scored, ok v Livi and scored a great goal, terrible v Hearts, terrible v St Mirren and awful last night.

No way was he terrible in the Derby or St Mirren for that matter.

Since452
25-09-2021, 07:56 AM
Clear as day that he's missing Doidge beside him.

calumhibee1
25-09-2021, 07:56 AM
No way was he terrible in the Derby or St Mirren for that matter.

Terrible is a bit over the top but he was quite poor in both imo.

His run of form has come at the worst possible time for us with nobody to replace him. We need him to at least start putting in good performances again but preferably also start scoring again. It wouldn’t be such an issue if we had Doidge still fit or another striker.

BILLYHIBS
25-09-2021, 07:57 AM
No way was he terrible in the Derby or St Mirren for that matter.

If only that shot with his back to goal over his left shoulder had sailed into Plukey’s top left hand corner ?

:greengrin

JimBHibees
25-09-2021, 08:05 AM
Terrible is a bit over the top but he was quite poor in both imo.

His run of form has come at the worst possible time for us with nobody to replace him. We need him to at least start putting in good performances again but preferably also start scoring again. It wouldn’t be such an issue if we had Doidge still fit or another striker.

Thought he was good in the Derby looked a threat got a few shots in should have done better with a chance in first half but great run and cut back for Kyle chance in second half always a threat. Clearly needs a goal and also worst time with Doidge being out for Murphy to be injured and Scott not to be fully up to speed. Thought he was ok last week nothing special and same on Thursday. Needs a goal but last thing we need is the support getting on his case and coming out with nonsense like he was terrible which is so far off the case imo.

hibbysam
25-09-2021, 08:12 AM
Terrible is a bit over the top but he was quite poor in both imo.

His run of form has come at the worst possible time for us with nobody to replace him. We need him to at least start putting in good performances again but preferably also start scoring again. It wouldn’t be such an issue if we had Doidge still fit or another striker.

I think people are looking too much into Thursdays performance. He made some cracking runs that never brought about any chances, he was involved a fair bit first half but second half he was isolated by about 40 yards. I didn’t see him not working hard but 1 attacker vs two centre halves and Fuchs who dropped in is never going to work.

When under pressure he’s obviously not as good at getting the ball against two giants when it’s shelled up to him with no support, but when we are on the ball and getting up the park he’s a huge asset.

Highwayman
25-09-2021, 08:47 AM
C’mon Kev score a hat trick against the Saints tomorrow.

All recent iffy performances will be forgotten and you will once again be flavour of the month with the eternally fickle .netters.

JimBHibees
25-09-2021, 08:50 AM
I think people are looking too much into Thursdays performance. He made some cracking runs that never brought about any chances, he was involved a fair bit first half but second half he was isolated by about 40 yards. I didn’t see him not working hard but 1 attacker vs two centre halves and Fuchs who dropped in is never going to work.

When under pressure he’s obviously not as good at getting the ball against two giants when it’s shelled up to him with no support, but when we are on the ball and getting up the park he’s a huge asset.

Agree totally

Key West
25-09-2021, 10:10 AM
I think his form has been poor, he needs some good moments and a bit of luck to kick start his season, it's not beyond him to do that.

A Hi-Bee
25-09-2021, 10:19 AM
Could do with him scoring a couple against the Saint Johnstone.

Winston Ingram
25-09-2021, 11:16 AM
No way was he terrible in the Derby or St Mirren for that matter.

He was rotten in the derby and last week.

BoomtownHibees
25-09-2021, 11:19 AM
He was rotten in the derby and last week.

Agreed. Nothing came off for him at all. First touch was very poor. Had a couple of half chances in the 2nd half, his volley was unlucky. But other than that I also thought he was pretty rotten

Brightside
25-09-2021, 11:21 AM
The Nisbet is Huffy stuff is brutal. Honestly. He's the total opposite of a Kamberi player.

Winston Ingram
25-09-2021, 11:26 AM
Agreed. Nothing came off for him at all. First touch was very poor. Had a couple of half chances in the 2nd half, his volley was unlucky. But other than that I also thought he was pretty rotten

He was getting dogs abuse from people around me for his performance last week.

The Terrace Podcast this week were also talking about how poor his performances in the Derby and St Mirren were.

He had a couple of good moments in both games but other than that, stank the place out in both games.

superfurryhibby
25-09-2021, 11:28 AM
He was getting dogs abuse from people around me for his performance last week.

The Terrace Podcast this week were also talking about how poor his performances in the Derby and St Mirren were.

He had a couple of good moments in both games but other than that, stank the place out in both games.

Form is transient, class is permanent.

Do you think Hibs should be in contract talks with him just now?

easty
25-09-2021, 11:46 AM
The Nisbet is Huffy stuff is brutal. Honestly. He's the total opposite of a Kamberi player.

Aye, it’s a complete nonsense. It’ll probably stick though. Anytime he doesn’t play well it’ll be “he needs to stop being so moody”.

Load of *****.

Since90+2
25-09-2021, 11:58 AM
Aye, it’s a complete nonsense. It’ll probably stick though. Anytime he doesn’t play well it’ll be “he needs to stop being so moody”.

Load of *****.

It's almost as if the folk posting that sort of stuff don't have Hibs best interests at heart and are looking to create a bit it animosity. I wonder why.

Winston Ingram
25-09-2021, 12:49 PM
Form is transient, class is permanent.

Do you think Hibs should be in contract talks with him just now?

No. He’s scored 5 league goals this calendar year, there’s no real interest in him and he has 3 years left on his deal.

Coco Bryce
25-09-2021, 12:50 PM
Nisbet is a very good footballer,just as well as we haven't got another striker.

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He may be a good footballer but we need a striker that scores goals.

Winston Ingram
25-09-2021, 12:53 PM
He may be a good footballer but we need a striker that scores goals.

…and is able to play with his back to goal. He’s not great at either

A Hi-Bee
25-09-2021, 12:56 PM
Aye, it’s a complete nonsense. It’ll probably stick though. Anytime he doesn’t play well it’ll be “he needs to stop being so moody”.

Load of *****.

I want a moody bad tempered goalscorer at Hibs, don't want one who is happy enough after a game no having scored.

superfurryhibby
25-09-2021, 01:22 PM
…and is able to play with his back to goal. He’s not great at either

Is there anything you feel he is good at?

Keep in mind this is a guy who has scored 21 goals in 55 competitive games for Hibs.

We don’t really know what interest there has been in him. I see that point as a bit irrelevant.

Perhaps his wages are lower than the top tier guys at Hibs and he feels he deserves more. It would seem like the club agree?

Nisbet is still improving. I hope there is plenty more to come from him and would really like to see him playing here for at least another season.

Mr. Wonderful
25-09-2021, 03:42 PM
It's almost as if the folk posting that sort of stuff don't have Hibs best interests at heart and are looking to create a bit it animosity. I wonder why.

It's almost as if some people don't like his attitude at times and want it to improve. How awful of them to suggest it.

As usual, if it's not all glory glory to the hibees, all players are class and have no weaknesses people are out with the yam insults.

It's possible to like Kevin Nisbet, love hibs and dislike a players performance and/or ability. I was a huge fan of his early season performances and was hoping he'd kick on from them, but I'm not enjoying his performances lately.

J-C
25-09-2021, 04:00 PM
It's almost as if some people don't like his attitude at times and want it to improve. How awful of them to suggest it.

As usual, if it's not all glory glory to the hibees, all players are class and have no weaknesses people are out with the yam insults.

It's possible to like Kevin Nisbet, love hibs and dislike a players performance and/or ability. I was a huge fan of his early season performances and was hoping he'd kick on from them, but I'm not enjoying his performances lately.


Why question his attitude, the laddie is playing ***** at the moment, every player goes through a period like that, especially strikers. How many were calling for Doidge to be nowhere near the team when he was going through his barren spell, me included and not once did I question Doidge's attitude, I just thought at that time he was honking but he came good again. Kevin needs a wee spell on the bench but unfortunately we re so threadbare up front there's no one to take his place, Gullan isn't in Ross's plans and Scott is a beefed up winger.

Allez Hibs
25-09-2021, 04:18 PM
It's almost as if some people don't like his attitude at times and want it to improve. How awful of them to suggest it.

As usual, if it's not all glory glory to the hibees, all players are class and have no weaknesses people are out with the yam insults.

It's possible to like Kevin Nisbet, love hibs and dislike a players performance and/or ability. I was a huge fan of his early season performances and was hoping he'd kick on from them, but I'm not enjoying his performances lately.

Well said 👏

MWHIBBIES
25-09-2021, 04:25 PM
Why question his attitude, the laddie is playing ***** at the moment, every player goes through a period like that, especially strikers. How many were calling for Doidge to be nowhere near the team when he was going through his barren spell, me included and not once did I question Doidge's attitude, I just thought at that time he was honking but he came good again. Kevin needs a wee spell on the bench but unfortunately we re so threadbare up front there's no one to take his place, Gullan isn't in Ross's plans and Scott is a beefed up winger.

Why do you think sitting on the bench will get his form back, after Doidge done the exact opposite?

Nisbet should and will continue playing every week.

Mr. Wonderful
25-09-2021, 04:37 PM
Why question his attitude, the laddie is playing ***** at the moment, every player goes through a period like that, especially strikers. How many were calling for Doidge to be nowhere near the team when he was going through his barren spell, me included and not once did I question Doidge's attitude, I just thought at that time he was honking but he came good again. Kevin needs a wee spell on the bench but unfortunately we re so threadbare up front there's no one to take his place, Gullan isn't in Ross's plans and Scott is a beefed up winger.

Why not? I don't necessarily agree with it or like it but that alone doesn't mean it's incorrect or not worth discussing. And it certainly doesn't make the person with that opinion a double agent

J-C
25-09-2021, 04:48 PM
Why not? I don't necessarily agree with it or like it but that alone doesn't mean it's incorrect or not worth discussing. And it certainly doesn't make the person with that opinion a double agent

It always seems a get out clause when players are going through a rough patch, instead of saying he's trying hard but nothing's working for him, lets just say he's a non trier with an attitude.

Mr. Wonderful
25-09-2021, 05:16 PM
It always seems a get out clause when players are going through a rough patch, instead of saying he's trying hard but nothing's working for him, lets just say he's a non trier with an attitude.

What seems silly to you might not to others.

JimBHibees
25-09-2021, 08:19 PM
He was rotten in the derby and last week.

Nonsense was good n the Derby on another day scores two or three. You do seem to have some sort of agendas against our strikers for some odd reason.

JimBHibees
25-09-2021, 08:22 PM
He was good away to Motherwell, good at home to Rijeka, he didn't play v Ross County where Doidge was outstanding, he was as good as a man short away in Rijeka, ok v Killie and scored, ok v Livi and scored a great goal, terrible v Hearts, terrible v St Mirren and awful last night.

Honestly your review of his performances are miles off honestly not sure you have a clue what you are talking about. The same guy starting for Scotland in that period. He doesn't owe you money does he. :greengrin

Brightside
25-09-2021, 08:24 PM
It's almost as if some people don't like his attitude at times and want it to improve. How awful of them to suggest it.

As usual, if it's not all glory glory to the hibees, all players are class and have no weaknesses people are out with the yam insults.

It's possible to like Kevin Nisbet, love hibs and dislike a players performance and/or ability. I was a huge fan of his early season performances and was hoping he'd kick on from them, but I'm not enjoying his performances lately.

The attitude thing is utter made up nonsense.

JimBHibees
25-09-2021, 08:27 PM
…and is able to play with his back to goal. He’s not great at either

Not great at scoring goals clearly having a laugh.

Allez Hibs
25-09-2021, 08:38 PM
It always seems a get out clause when players are going through a rough patch, instead of saying he's trying hard but nothing's working for him, lets just say he's a non trier with an attitude.

6 goals for Hibs since Boxing Day. All competitions.

Brightside
25-09-2021, 08:44 PM
6 goals for Hibs since Boxing Day. All competitions.

Give it a rest.

Allez Hibs
25-09-2021, 08:47 PM
Give it a rest.

We need him scoring goals to have a successful season. That's not even a debate.

MWHIBBIES
25-09-2021, 08:50 PM
We need him scoring goals to have a successful season. That's not even a debate. ''we need players to play well for us to do well'' Duh

Brightside
25-09-2021, 08:51 PM
We need him scoring goals to have a successful season. That's not even a debate.

So if we win 3-1 and he doesn’t score you reckon he has to do better? Let’s change the system. Play 2 up top have him scoring every week but we lose the games? It’s not just about scoring goals for the single striker.

Allez Hibs
25-09-2021, 08:55 PM
So if we win 3-1 and he doesn’t score you reckon he has to do better? Let’s change the system. Play 2 up top have him scoring every week but we lose the games? It’s not just about scoring goals for the single striker.
I get that and we are fortunate goals are coming from midfield just now but that only lasts so long.

Hopefully this is a chance for him to knuckle down and work that wee bit harder for the team and to develop himself playing up front on his own. We need him to.

Brightside
25-09-2021, 09:00 PM
I get that and we are fortunate goals are coming from midfield just now but that only lasts so long.

Hopefully this is a chance for him to knuckle down and work that wee bit harder for the team and to develop himself playing up front on his own. We need him to.

It’s not fortunate its by design.

Peevemor
25-09-2021, 09:09 PM
It’s not fortunate its by design.

Yep, it's sort of how the loan striker thing works.

Allez Hibs
25-09-2021, 09:10 PM
It’s not fortunate its by design.

Sorry, but I think very few teams are good enough to play like that. Nisbet isn't a tall slow hold up man nor a false 9, he is a number 9. We need him 100% mentally and physically to allow us to get where we want to get to this season under the circumstances. The defence to counter the side of the debate that is questioning his attitude and mentality is becoming more and more skewed by the day.

How difficult is it to just want a striker to be sharp holding the ball up better and contributing goals for the team. He is a Scotland international after all.

Allez Hibs
25-09-2021, 09:15 PM
Yep, it's sort of how the loan striker thing works.

Yet some "lone" striker's are prolific. Harry Kane is unreal as a lone striker.

Peevemor
25-09-2021, 09:21 PM
Yet some "lone" striker's are prolific. Harry Kane is unreal as a lone striker.Oops - yes, lone.

And yes - some, but not all.

Before today, Hibs were 2nd top scorers in the SPL and with 21 goals from 12 competitive matches. Nisbet's played his part in that despite not being on scoring form himself.

Selkirkhibs
25-09-2021, 09:28 PM
Nisbet's a cracking forward to have at our disposal and hope that he does stay a bit longer.

What I don't get it is any criticism of a Hibernian team that wins 3 - 1 away from home. We seen the game out albeit by defending for our lives most of the second half against a very tidy DUFC team which if it had an attacking force such as ours would easily be competing in the top half of the table.

We won as most good teams do by taking our opportunities and preventing the opposition from scoring more goals than us.

We've got a very good team here and a top notch manager who has come on leaps and bounds at ER.

Long may it continue.

easty
25-09-2021, 10:17 PM
6 goals for Hibs since Boxing Day. All competitions.

Why are you still peddling this *****? Its not true, and you know it.

It’s 9 goals since Boxing Day. Plus an international goal against the minnows of Holland.

Mr. Wonderful
25-09-2021, 10:32 PM
The attitude thing is utter made up nonsense.

I don't agree with it but it's not made up, it's an assessment the person's made and formed an opinion on and that's fair enough.

This is where sensible debate goes to die.

JimBHibees
25-09-2021, 10:37 PM
Yet some "lone" striker's are prolific. Harry Kane is unreal as a lone striker.

Genuinely wtf is wrong with you. You clearly hate Hibs and take no pleasure from any thing we do. A troll a yam or a masochist.

Mr. Wonderful
25-09-2021, 10:40 PM
Genuinely wtf is wring with you. You clearly hate Hibs and take no pleasure from any thought by we do. A troll a yam or a masochist.

He's got a point though. Don't like it at all but Boyce has been playing as a lone striker and has quite a few goals this season now. Ramirez at Aberdeen too.

Allez Hibs
25-09-2021, 10:42 PM
Genuinely wtf is wring with you. You clearly hate Hibs and take no pleasure from any thought by we do. A troll a yam or a masochist.

Is your post really necessary? Standard "yam" response to an opinion thats different on here. Are we not allowed to analyse how a player with potential is performing and want him to improve? Deary me.

easty
25-09-2021, 10:44 PM
He's got a point though. Don't like it at all but Boyce has been playing as a lone striker and has quite a few goals this season now. Ramirez at Aberdeen too.

Ramirez is in worse form than Nisbet.

Kato
25-09-2021, 10:45 PM
I get that and we are fortunate goals are coming from midfield just now but that only lasts so long.



How long does it last?

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Kato
25-09-2021, 10:47 PM
This is where sensible debate goes to die.

Yeah....Right.

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Allez Hibs
25-09-2021, 10:49 PM
I don't agree with it but it's not made up, it's an assessment the person's made and formed an opinion on and that's fair enough.

This is where sensible debate goes to die.

Agreed, sensible points are being countered here with skewed points of view purely to spite those making sensible points.

Heisenberg
25-09-2021, 10:49 PM
He's got a point though. Don't like it at all but Boyce has been playing as a lone striker and has quite a few goals this season now. Ramirez at Aberdeen too.

Ramirez has one more than Nisbet and the large majority of goals Boyce has are from pens.

easty
25-09-2021, 10:51 PM
Ramirez has one more than Nisbet and the large majority of goals Boyce has are from pens.

Ramirez has 1 in his last 9 games

easty
25-09-2021, 10:52 PM
Agreed, sensible points are being countered here with skewed points of view purely to spite those making sensible points.

It’s not a sensible point to compare Nisbet to Kamberi, cos it’s bull****.

Allez Hibs
25-09-2021, 10:56 PM
Ramirez is in worse form than Nisbet.

Regardless, the main point is, is Nisbet in good form?

easty
25-09-2021, 11:04 PM
Regardless, the main point is, is Nisbet in good form?

I don’t think anyone has argued that he is…

JimBHibees
25-09-2021, 11:18 PM
Is your post really necessary? Standard "yam" response to an opinion thats different on here. Are we not allowed to analyse how a player with potential is performing and want him to improve? Deary me.

Nothing standard I gave you three options one of which was yam. You chose that one to focus on so maybe touched a nerve. Your relentless negativity and pedantic nitpicking is absolute torture. We get into another semi final, five in a row and your default is but what about the games we lost last season. Amazing attitude. No idea what you get out of it to be honest apart from winding up Hibs fans.

JimBHibees
25-09-2021, 11:25 PM
He's got a point though. Don't like it at all but Boyce has been playing as a lone striker and has quite a few goals this season now. Ramirez at Aberdeen too.

Boyce has scored mostly pens, Ramirez has genuinely been horrific after a bright start. It isnt all about goals he has been involved in many of our good moves and goals.. Bottom line he is an excellent player probably not suited to sole striker but is the only one we have pretty much.

Allez Hibs
25-09-2021, 11:25 PM
Nothing standard I gave you three options one of which was yam. You chose that one to focus on so maybe touched a nerve. Your relentless negativity and pedantic nitpicking is absolute torture. We get into another semi final, five in a row and your default is but what about the games we lost last season. Amazing attitude. No idea what you get out of it to be honest apart from winding up Hibs fans.

Yep, torture wanting the club to be successful. Noted.

JimBHibees
25-09-2021, 11:27 PM
Yep, torture wanting the club to be successful. Noted.

I don't think you do though. Noted.

Kato
25-09-2021, 11:35 PM
Yep, torture wanting the club to be successful. Noted.Grumbling every 15 mins won't achieve that.

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blackpoolhibs
26-09-2021, 05:06 AM
I don't think you do though. Noted.
:agree: You have to remember everything is bad, even winning.:rolleyes:

bigwheel
26-09-2021, 06:08 AM
Yep, torture wanting the club to be successful. Noted.

There is nothing about your posts on here that suggest you want anything positive for Hibs,. You aren’t as obvious as others have been , but how you are getting away with it is beyond me.

It’s a major turnoff to any thread you participate in

Since90+2
26-09-2021, 06:33 AM
There is nothing about your posts on here that suggest you want anything positive for Hibs,. You aren’t as obvious as others have been , but how you are getting away with it is beyond me.

It’s a major turnoff to any thread you participate in

Agreed. Never has anything positive to say about the club, like you I'm baffled how they are getting away with the blatant trolling.

J-C
26-09-2021, 07:06 AM
Quite amazing it's always the same posters who spout pure negativity about our club, whether it's certain players, the manager, scouting and buying and the running of the club itself.

We now have Nisbet has an attitude problem because he's going through a barren spell, even though there is absolutely no evidence that's the case and never has been, or Ross is a bottler in big games nonsense. It gets very tiresome and and as other posters alluded you have to question why these few posters come on here just to have a go at everything Hibs with almost never a positive thing to be said, it makes the atmosphere on this board quite toxic at times.

All more amazing considering we finished 3rd last season, we were sitting equal 1st and are into another cup semi final.

ian cruise
26-09-2021, 07:09 AM
Nisbet is quality but his recent dip in form is a worry

I do not think I would offer him an improved contract just yet

Probably stick it back in the top drawer and hope he gets back on track ASAP

Never in doubt ! :greengrin

Surely it's a bit like the stock market, buy the dip!

If Nisbet is in great form there's a queue of suitors waiting, and chances of an extended contract getting signed are low, at minimum he'll be asking for more than the contract is offering because his stock is high.

Offer the extension when he's going through a barren spell and there's no one of note chapping on his door makes it more likely to be agreeable to the player. There's a risk but we've all seen what an in form Nisbet can do, the dip in form is unlikely to be permanent (I still maintain he's doing okay right now but needs a goal to settle his frustration). A new contract and an arm around the shoulder reminding him of his value to the team might be enough to get his confidence rocketing again.

Bangkok Hibby
26-09-2021, 07:15 AM
Agreed. Never has anything positive to say about the club, like you I'm baffled how they are getting away with the blatant trolling.

What do you suggest? Ban every negative poster? How negative, who decides?
If you don't agree with certain posters keep calling them out or put on ignore. Anything else is censorship.
Aggressive talk, threats etc would of course be different but being negative about all things Hibs is no crime. (Just a bit weird on a Hibs supporters forum)

Bangkok Hibby
26-09-2021, 07:16 AM
Surely it's a bit like the stock market, buy the dip!

If Nisbet is in great form there's a queue of suitors waiting, and chances of an extended contract getting signed are low, at minimum he'll be asking for more than the contract is offering because his stock is high.

Offer the extension when he's going through a barren spell and there's no one of note chapping on his door makes it more likely to be agreeable to the player. There's a risk but we've all seen what an in form Nisbet can do, the dip in form is unlikely to be permanent (I still maintain he's doing okay right now but needs a goal to settle his frustration). A new contract and an arm around the shoulder reminding him of his value to the team might be enough to get his confidence rocketing again.

Good post, makes perfect sense.

Mr. Wonderful
26-09-2021, 07:30 AM
Ramirez has one more than Nisbet and the large majority of goals Boyce has are from pens.

So it's OK to disregard pens when it's an opposition player but not when it's our own?

BILLYHIBS
26-09-2021, 07:32 AM
Surely it's a bit like the stock market, buy the dip!

If Nisbet is in great form there's a queue of suitors waiting, and chances of an extended contract getting signed are low, at minimum he'll be asking for more than the contract is offering because his stock is high.

Offer the extension when he's going through a barren spell and there's no one of note chapping on his door makes it more likely to be agreeable to the player. There's a risk but we've all seen what an in form Nisbet can do, the dip in form is unlikely to be permanent (I still maintain he's doing okay right now but needs a goal to settle his frustration). A new contract and an arm around the shoulder reminding him of his value to the team might be enough to get his confidence rocketing again.

I wouldn’t be spending more than I have already spent just now but you crack on

He has already said he is happy here and I don’t see anything to make me want to protect what I have already paid out at the time of writing based on his current form

No queue of suitors or future Scotland caps on the horizon

Sure if the boy does good the contract comes back out but it may also turn out the boy was not the ‘real deal ‘ we all thought he was

Do you think we are made of money? :confused:

We are still in the middle of a pandemic

The question then must be : ‘would you offer Kevin Nisbet a new improved extended contract just now ? ‘

It’s a no from me ( until he returns to form)

If he returns to form and refuses to sign it is still a win win as we now as a club only sell on our terms and we have not paid out more and we still get our 4m anyway ( smiley face)


GGTTH

Mr. Wonderful
26-09-2021, 07:36 AM
Quite amazing it's always the same posters who spout pure negativity about our club, whether it's certain players, the manager, scouting and buying and the running of the club itself.

We now have Nisbet has an attitude problem because he's going through a barren spell, even though there is absolutely no evidence that's the case and never has been, or Ross is a bottler in big games nonsense. It gets very tiresome and and as other posters alluded you have to question why these few posters come on here just to have a go at everything Hibs with almost never a positive thing to be said, it makes the atmosphere on this board quite toxic at times.

All more amazing considering we finished 3rd last season, we were sitting equal 1st and are into another cup semi final.

Quite amazing we always have the same posters spouting unfounded positivity at all times.

We have no players with attitude problems, no players out of form and the club can do no wrong ever. You just have to question why these posters come on here to share such an unbalanced positive view all the time. It makes the atmosphere on this board feel very one sided and renders anyone with the opposite view a yam in their eyes.

Heisenberg
26-09-2021, 07:40 AM
So it's OK to disregard pens when it's an opposition player but not when it's our own?

Your two examples of being an effective lone striker in Boyce and Ramirez have been shown to be flawed. One isn’t any more prolific than Nisbet this season and the other is a penalty merchant. Pick better examples next time.

Mr. Wonderful
26-09-2021, 07:42 AM
Ramirez has one more than Nisbet and the large majority of goals Boyce has are from pens.

So we disregard Boyce's pens but include Nisbet's in overall goal tally, is that how this works? Is that what being positive is?

Caversham Green
26-09-2021, 07:43 AM
Quite amazing we always have the same posters spouting unfounded positivity at all times.

We have no players with attitude problems, no players out of form and the club can do no wrong ever. You just have to question why these posters come on here to share such an unbalanced positive view all the time. It makes the atmosphere on this board feel very one sided and renders anyone with the opposite view a yam in their eyes.

You're having a pop at the wrong person there. J-C is one of the most balanced posters on .net - if he doesn't like something about our club he says so but he balances it out with things he does like. Maybe you should try it - list the thing you actually like about Hibernian Football Club in the present day.

Mr. Wonderful
26-09-2021, 07:44 AM
Your two examples of being an effective lone striker in Boyce and Ramirez have been shown to be flawed. One isn’t any more prolific than Nisbet this season and the other is a penalty merchant. Pick better examples next time.

All you've shown is confirmation bias is alive and well here on hibs.net again

Greenio
26-09-2021, 07:44 AM
Nisbet to get a goal and an assist today. 100% money back guarantee!

Quality player, going through a bad patch, happens to everyone, all the time.

Mr. Wonderful
26-09-2021, 07:53 AM
You're having a pop at the wrong person there. J-C is one of the most balanced posters on .net - if he doesn't like something about our club he says so but he balances it out with things he does like. Maybe you should try it - list the thing you actually like about Hibernian Football Club in the present day.

Said poster is having a pop at good hibs fans who just happen to see things a bit differently to himself. Couldn't care less if he's normally balanced, his post is a rotten one.

Caversham Green
26-09-2021, 07:56 AM
Said poster is having a pop at good hibs fans who just happen to see things a bit differently to himself. Couldn't care less if he's normally balanced, his post is a rotten one.

His post summarises how many people on this forum feel about your unrelenting negativity.

So how about that list?

Peevemor
26-09-2021, 07:57 AM
It's just daft to include a high proportion of penalties scored as proof of someone being prolific as a lone striker.

Heisenberg
26-09-2021, 07:58 AM
All you've shown is confirmation bias is alive and well here on hibs.net again

Ramirez isn’t any better than Nisbet as a lone striker. Boyce has more goals but these are all penalties and absolutely nothing to do with being an effective lone striker, which is the discussion. If you want to argue Boyce is a better penalty taker then it’s fair and history shows he’s better than Nisbet. On overall play, open play goals and being part of the team they are pretty similar.

Please give your reasons for why Ramirez and Boyce are any better instead of lashing out when folk challenge your opinion.

J-C
26-09-2021, 07:59 AM
Quite amazing we always have the same posters spouting unfounded positivity at all times.

We have no players with attitude problems, no players out of form and the club can do no wrong ever. You just have to question why these posters come on here to share such an unbalanced positive view all the time. It makes the atmosphere on this board feel very one sided and renders anyone with the opposite view a yam in their eyes.

One thing you cannot accuse me of is being a happy clapper constant positivity, I have 3 of them on ignore because they grind you down during a debate. I'll call a spade a spade when and where necessary, I'm still not a big fan of Doidge but I have to agree that he works his socks off for us and when he goes on a goal spree he scores for fun. I said on the match thread that we played very well 1st half at United but were stinking in the 2d, I acknowledged United had a real go at us as expected but our game management was very poor in that half.

What annoys me is the complete opposites, either everything is great and wonderful with nothing wrong or we are woeful with every player pish and the manager has no clue, there needs to be a middle ground. We won 3-1 on Thursday and although the 2nd half wasn't great it was fairly comfortable in the end, it should've been a positive thread about the game but in come certain posters and go on about threadbare squad, Nisbet hasn't scored and has attitude problems etc etc.

superfurryhibby
26-09-2021, 08:04 AM
Said poster is having a pop at good hibs fans who just happen to see things a bit differently to himself. Couldn't care less if he's normally balanced, his post is a rotten one.

It’s maybe a bit of prejudice being directed at posters who want to sour every thread at any opportunity. You know the ones, like the guy who claimed Hibs were exploiting fans good will by asking them to volunteer at the stadium.

Mr. Wonderful
26-09-2021, 08:09 AM
Ramirez isn’t any better than Nisbet as a lone striker. Boyce has more goals but these are all penalties and absolutely nothing to do with being an effective lone striker, which is the discussion. If you want to argue Boyce is a better penalty taker then it’s fair and history shows he’s better than Nisbet. On overall play, open play goals and being part of the team they are pretty similar.

Please give your reasons for why Ramirez and Boyce are any better instead of lashing out when folk challenge your opinion.

Both are far more effective lone strikers without the goals, but both are outscoring Kevin this season. And one is playing in an struggling side.

So are penalties allowed to be counted or not? Nisbet's tally without them is quite grim reading.

B.H.F.C
26-09-2021, 08:15 AM
It always seems a get out clause when players are going through a rough patch, instead of saying he's trying hard but nothing's working for him, lets just say he's a non trier with an attitude.

Wouldn’t go as far as to say he’s not trying but I do think he could do more. He can work harder, make more runs etc.

Heisenberg
26-09-2021, 08:17 AM
Both are far more effective lone strikers without the goals, but both are outscoring Kevin this season. And one is playing in an struggling side.

So are penalties allowed to be counted or not? Nisbet's tally without them is quite grim reading.

I’d argue Nisbet is on a level with both players without the ball when discussing the role of a lone striker. Maybe even better.

Depends what you want to discuss? Goal records? Chuck the penalties in. Want to discuss how effective he is compared to Boyce as a lone striker? Absolutely no relevance whatsoever.

Allez Hibs
26-09-2021, 08:20 AM
There is nothing about your posts on here that suggest you want anything positive for Hibs,. You aren’t as obvious as others have been , but how you are getting away with it is beyond me.

It’s a major turnoff to any thread you participate in

Absolute nonsense, read my posts properly. Questioning one of our more important players attitude and work rate is now regarded as trolling. Unbelievable.

It's actually posts like yours that put people off posting on .net and that's a fact.

Peevemor
26-09-2021, 08:22 AM
Absolute nonsense, read my posts properly. Questioning one of our more important players attitude and work rate is now regarded as trolling. Unbelievable.

It's actually posts like yours that put people off posting on .net and that's a fact.Making up facts doesn’t help your argument.