Matt Macey

[Mr. Wonderful]

That’ll be that then now that you’ve given us all an end of.

You could do with perhaps giving yourself a rest from hibs net for a change pal. See it as a favour..

[calumhibee1]

You could do with perhaps giving yourself a rest from hibs net for a change pal. See it as a favour..

Because I think Macey should have come for a cross? :faf:

[Mr. Wonderful]

He doesn’t need to catch it to stop a goal coming from it?

By catch I of course mean get to it, by whatever means. Have you ever been a keeper?

[Andy74]

In order to catch that he'd have to have been on his 6 yard line when the ball was first hit and come out. Bearing in mind that if the boy took another touch inside he'd have been in range for a shot, that's quite an unreasonable suggestion.

Maybe Macey see's the run of McGowan and does just that but then what if the lad overhits the cross and it goes over his head?

Keepers in the right position the whole time. If Gogic follows his man goal side there's no danger. End of.

The ball was headed in from 5 to 6 yards out. Why would Macy have had to be stood exactly there at the time it was hit? He had 5 yards to move in the time the ball flight happened.

Anyway, as I said above he didn't move his feet the whole time and didn't move for the header - that's been a few of these now where once he's decided not to go he has also been easily beaten by the header.

[LaMotta]

In order to catch that he'd have to have been on his 6 yard line when the ball was first hit and come out. Bearing in mind that if the boy took another touch inside he'd have been in range for a shot, that's quite an unreasonable suggestion.

Maybe Macey see's the run of McGowan and does just that but then what if the lad overhits the cross and it goes over his head?

Keepers in the right position the whole time. If Gogic follows his man goal side there's no danger. End of.

Was just about to make the same point you made in the first paragraph.:agree:

[bingo70]

By catch I of course mean get to it, by whatever means. Have you ever been a keeper?

Yeah.

A big part of it is anticipating what’s coming and moving your feet accordingly. For me, he would have seen pretty early that he wasn’t going to shoot, at that stage he’s setting himself to come forward for the cross, if he realises he’s not getting the cross he makes himself as big as possible and hope the ball bounces off him somewhere.

What you wouldn’t do is stand flat footed on your line and hope for the best.

In my opinion anyway. As I said though, better goalkeeping minds than mine have disagreed and that’s all good. The goal isn’t going to make any bloopers videos but to suggest the correct course of action for a goalie facing a cross and a header from 6 yards out is to stand flat footed I will always find hard to believe.

[Andy74]

Was just about to make the same point you made in the first paragraph.:agree:

Think you maybe have to watch the goal again then instead of still pictures.

The ball was headed from less than six yards. Can you explain why a 6ft 7 keeper would need to be stood a yard beyond that at the time the cross was hit to catch it?

Is it more effective walking backwards a yard than moving forwards 4 or 5 or something?

[gbhibby]

This thread is getting ridiculous. Next people will be saying he should have clutched Adams shot. Gogic lost his man ball in no man's land end of story let's move on.

[Mr. Wonderful]

The ball was headed in from 5 to 6 yards out. Why would Macy have had to be stood exactly there at the time it was hit? He had 5 yards to move in the time the ball flight happened.

Anyway, as I said above he didn't move his feet the whole time and didn't move for the header - that's been a few of these now where once he's decided not to go he has also been easily beaten by the header.

At a very low point. In order for him to comfortably get to it, the ball needs to be higher than it is at that point. Effectively he'd need to be grabbing it at or around the penalty spot.

Regardless, Dundee scored. No amount of debate is going to change that and we should all move on and enjoy our very decent start to the season.

[Greenio]

Awful lot of pointless bickering on here of late eh!

Re Macey. Guy made some quality I thought. JB had him as man of the match!

[Mr. Wonderful]

Awful lot of pointless bickering on here of late eh!

Re Macey. Guy made some quality I thought. JB had him as man of the match!

Fully agree. It's high time some working from homers returned to the office I think.

[tonyrougier123]

Rocky was not confident coming for the ball and I can remember that there have been several occasions I thought he could have come for crosses but stayed on his line and a goal was scored. What I don't remember is anywhere near the same level of criticism on here ever being aimed at Rocky about it afterwards as there has been towards Macey.
Rocky commanded his box well enough for me over a good few seasons.I think it’s early for macey but there’s been a few dubious goals conceded where personally I feel he could’ve been more commanding in the box.I have felt that more since he became no.1 than at the majority of times Rocky was in the sticks for us.
I like macey few very top saves but I’d like for the box to be commanded better especially the six yard area.balls in are a problem,goalie and defenders culpable.that corner in Rijeka was a shocker and Sunday’s Dundee equaliser a sign there’s an issue to be resolved within that area.
It needs looked at is all I’m saying.
For a team who had such a good defensive record all I’m trying to figure out and debate is where has the problem came from.
Rocky is away so I’m not dwelling on that just suggesting he may have commanded that situation better.
I think an accretive centre half in there might help macey clear his lines better.

[Andy74]

At a very low point. In order for him to comfortably get to it, the ball needs to be higher than it is at that point. Effectively he'd need to be grabbing it at or around the penalty spot.

Regardless, Dundee scored. No amount of debate is going to change that and we should all move on and enjoy our very decent start to the season.

That's nonsense - he wouldn't have to be 6 yards further out from where the player managed to get his head on the ball - he only needs to be about a yard higher than where the player makes contact so he only needed to move about 5 yards for a ball that was hit from about 25 yards.

[bingo70]

Awful lot of pointless bickering on here of late eh!

Re Macey. Guy made some quality I thought. JB had him as man of the match!

It’s kind of the point of this place though.

Some people will think he’s to blame, some won’t. Discussing it is literally the point of a football message board. Well in my opinion it is anyway.

[SMAXXA]

It’s kind of the point of this place though.

Some people will think he’s to blame, some won’t. Discussing it is literally the point of a football message board. Well in my opinion it is anyway.

No it isnae 😂

[bigwheel]

Macey I’m sure could have come and at least looked to intervene . Would have had risk attached to it though. Certainly wouldn’t say he was the biggest culprit.

There were a number of errors for that second goal. Boyle switching off at the throw in. Lewis letting the cross in,. Gogic not tracking his runner . The fact that neither Macey or Doig reacted to look to stop the danger is secondary at least to those issues noted above.

He’s started well enough. He and the team need to up his clean sheets for Macey to be considered at the right level to help us move forward

[007]

your right it was floated in and McGowan ran from just inside the box so about 12 yards to put his head on it and we have a keeper who doesn’t come out six yards to try and even punch the ball. We just have to accept that he doesn’t like coming for crosses unless it’s just under his bar.

McGowan wasn't at the edge of the box when the cross came in, he was midway been the edge and the penalty spot, so that's 3 yards less than your claim, and he
was already moving forwards before the ball was kicked, as you'd expect a striker to do in anticipation. He is obviously going to cover more ground than Macey, unless you think Macey should start coming out for crosses before the ball has been kicked? A goalkeeper doesn’t have the same luxury, he has to watch the cross and make a very quick judgement of the speed and flight of the ball, which I would say wasn't floated in, it was moving too fast to be considered a floated cross.

[Hibernian Verse]

Macey I’m sure could have come and at least looked to intervene . Would have had risk attached to it though. Certainly wouldn’t say he was the biggest culprit.

There were a number of errors for that second goal. Boyle switching off at the throw in. Lewis letting the cross in,. Gogic not tracking his runner . The fact that neither Macey or Doig reacted to look to stop the danger is secondary at least to those issues noted above.

He’s started well enough. He and the team need to up his clean sheets for Macey to be considered at the right level to help us move forward

If Macey had come out and been in no man's land still losing the goal in the process this place would be full of it about how he should've stayed on his line.

The goalie is fine, the ball should've been dealt with by the Centre Half's who were having a cuddle about 5 yards away and Gogic who didn't track his man.

[bigwheel]

If Macey had come out and been in no man's land still losing the goal in the process this place would be full of it about how he should've stayed on his line.

The goalie is fine, the ball should've been dealt with by the Centre Half's who were having a cuddle about 5 yards away and Gogic who didn't track his man.

Yep, spot on….wouldn’t have been the natural thing for him to do…and as you say, if it goes wrong he then looks stupid. He probably would have stopped the header though….

As you say, other factors created the issue, not Macey


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[Mr. Wonderful]

That's nonsense - he wouldn't have to be 6 yards further out from where the player managed to get his head on the ball - he only needs to be about a yard higher than where the player makes contact so he only needed to move about 5 yards for a ball that was hit from about 25 yards.

We're getting close to needing a physics expert here to determine speed, height etc. You'll very rarely see a goalkeeper coming for a cross from a free kick from that same angle unless it's hugely overhit, and that's with the anticipation of knowing full well it is actually going to be a cross that comes in.

As for anticipating it, are some perhaps forgetting that there's also a player at the back post? If Macey steps up and it ends up over him and on the head of that player it's a horror of an error.

It's sometimes easier to see these things developing from a TV or stand vantage point, being on actual pitch level player movements etc are harder to see. That also doesn't account for Macey's view of the player crossing the ball, how much of the flight he can see from his vantage point etc.

[blackpoolhibs]

Many different reasons but in the box it's Gogic, and not for the first time this season.


:agree:
Gogic caught on his heels, not a chance Macey could come for that cross, although i did think he could at the time.

[lord bunberry]

Crosses into the box comes from pi ss poor defending, stop the crosses and you'll stop the headed goals.

That’s right. People saying Macey should’ve come out for that are kidding themselves on. He’s in exactly the correct position for a cross coming in and there’s no way he should be coming to punch that. It would be the equivalent of a defender diving in rashly at a player running into the box. Coming for that ball is 60/40 in favour of the attacker and he’d rightly be slaughtered if he didn’t get there.

[blackpoolhibs]

This season, i cant think of one goal that's been the fault of Macey, and thats from someone who thinks Rocky is a better keeper.

[Borderhibbie76]

You could do with perhaps giving yourself a rest from hibs net for a change pal. See it as a favour..

And in turn give us all a break too :)

[lord bunberry]

This season, i cant think of one goal that's been the fault of Macey, and thats from someone who thinks Rocky is a better keeper.
Neither can I, and that’s why I’m struggling to understand the criticism he’s getting. I thought the Motherwell game last season he could’ve done better with both goals, but other than that he’s been good.

[bigwheel]

Neither can I, and that’s why I’m struggling to understand the criticism he’s getting. I thought the Motherwell game last season he could’ve done better with both goals, but other than that he’s been good.

Not sure he’s getting much direct criticism tbf, there will always be some for any player …feels
Like it’s mainly some people saying they remain to be convinced……which isn’t that unreasonable. He has a hard act to follow.

[Since452]

I think in Scotland you have two keepers who are clear of the rest in McGregor and Gordon. Macey is at least on a par with any of the others. Joe Lewis has made some horrific mistakes. Macey is a lot younger than the three mentioned and will only improve, especially if he's found a home at Hibs. 26 is nothing for a keeper.

[Bangkok Hibby]

Not sure he’s getting much direct criticism tbf, there will always be some for any player …feels
Like it’s mainly some people saying they remain to be convinced……which isn’t that unreasonable. He has a hard act to follow.

And that act was stoutly defended by the very same people now questioning Macey, using the very same arguments they refused to accept when Marciano was being talked about. The hypocrisy is laughable.

[lord bunberry]

Not sure he’s getting much direct criticism tbf, there will always be some for any player …feels
Like it’s mainly some people saying they remain to be convinced……which isn’t that unreasonable. He has a hard act to follow.
Fair enough, but I’m not sure what he has to do to convince people. I’m not saying he’s going to be the main man for years to come, but so far he’s been good. I say that as someone who’d have rather we went with Dabrowski this season.

[Since452]

And that act was stoutly defended by the very same people now questioning Macey, using the very same arguments they refused to accept when Marciano was being talked about. The hypocrisy is laughable.

Might get shot down here but I still think folk that don't like Jack Ross take an immediate dislike to his signings too. If Macey was a Lennon signing I wonder if he'd be questioned as much. The flack McGinn and Magennis got last season was telling.

[hibsbollah]

With (the greatest of) respect..................the first part of your post is correct, but the part in bold is nonsense, it was entirely Gogic fault - and that after someone showed you screen grab which shows Macey was ABSOLUTELY 100% RIGHT not to come for that cross.

While we can all have opinions, can we at least try to keep a grip on reality?

:agree: There is no doubt in my mind some folk are here to argue a position through to its conclusion, even if they know they’re talking out of their hole while doing so.

[calumhibee1]

And that act was stoutly defended by the very same people now questioning Macey, using the very same arguments they refused to accept when Marciano was being talked about. The hypocrisy is laughable.

So you keep saying. Who was refusing to accept such an argument when it was Marciano being talked about?

A very niche conversation to be so memorable, especially when it’s a viewpoint you agree with so presumably weren’t involved much in

[SMAXXA]

10 pages is enough can we just close this down 🤦*♂️

[Mr. Wonderful]

And that act was stoutly defended by the very same people now questioning Macey, using the very same arguments they refused to accept when Marciano was being talked about. The hypocrisy is laughable.

Incorrect. I did blame him for at least one of those motherwell goals and I feel he could've done better for a couple in Rijeka.

[gbhibby]

If ever Hibs need a new goalkeeping coach we seem to have plenty of "experts" posting on this thread who will be able to take over. 🤔

[gbhibby]

10 pages is enough can we just close this down 🤦*♂️
1 page would have been more than enough.

[Andy74]

And that act was stoutly defended by the very same people now questioning Macey, using the very same arguments they refused to accept when Marciano was being talked about. The hypocrisy is laughable.

Could be that Marciano was all round better at these things and that’s why certain people defended him. He was one of the best keepers we’ve had so that defence would be justified.

[BoomtownHibees]

I’d probably put myself in the “still to be convinced” camp about Macey but I’m no having him coming for the cross for Dundee’s 2nd

[green day]

:agree: There is no doubt in my mind some folk are here to argue a position through to its conclusion, even if they know they’re talking out of their hole while doing so.

😂😂Sitting outside enjoying the weather and just about spat my wine out at that.

[MWHIBBIES]

I would struggle to point the finger at any department other than our back four for those goals conceded to crosses this season.

Cut out the supply = no danger in the first place

Centre Halfs do their job properly = less of an issue if a ball does come in.

Centre halfs pulled out of position to help full backs = we are in real trouble.

I genuinely struggle to see that Macey has been anything other than badly exposed at these goals so far.

I see some blaming Macey for the equaliser..............It was actually pathetic tracking from Gogic who was ball watching as the cross came in and the wee daftie thug with the combover walked past him - amateur stuff but not Maceys fault.

11 players defend. Always something every one of them could've done better to prevent a goal.

[BS44]

Took this video from the bounce, and it gives us a better look than the TV highlights as to where Macey was standing as the cross comes in for the equaliser. After looking at this I don't think I would question the goalie's positioning, he's a couple of feet off his line anticipating the cross, but not much chance of him beating McGowan to that.

Goal clip is about 10 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eZlbTHfbj4&t=612s

[gbhibby]

Admin can we close this thread PLEASE

[007]

Took this video from the bounce, and it gives us a better look than the TV highlights as to where Macey was standing as the cross comes in for the equaliser. After looking at this I don't think I would question the goalie's positioning, he's a couple of feet off his line anticipating the cross, but not much chance of him beating McGowan to that.

Goal clip is about 10 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eZlbTHfbj4&t=612s

Yup, definitely the defence at fault, mostly Gogic. You can see even before the ball reaches McGowan that Porteous can tell it is a free header.

[calumhibee1]

Admin can we close this thread PLEASE

Why? :confused:

This is a message board for discussing Hibs. I don’t think this thread could be much more relevant if it tried and people are quite clearly still wanting to discuss the topic if they’re still posting on it.

[calumhibee1]

Took this video from the bounce, and it gives us a better look than the TV highlights as to where Macey was standing as the cross comes in for the equaliser. After looking at this I don't think I would question the goalie's positioning, he's a couple of feet off his line anticipating the cross, but not much chance of him beating McGowan to that.

Goal clip is about 10 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eZlbTHfbj4&t=612s

I hear someone shout goalie just before McGowan wins it. Now I wasn’t there so it must have been Bingo or Andy74 judging by this thread :greengrin

[hibsbollah]

Why? :confused:

This is a message board for discussing Hibs. I don’t think this thread could be much more relevant if it tried and people are quite clearly still wanting to discuss the topic if they’re still posting on it.

Boredom is a real thing though.

[blackpoolhibs]

11 players defend. Always something every one of them could've done better to prevent a goal.

Lazy cliche quote, seen many goals where one player has made a right mess of things his team mates had no part in where a goal has been lost.

[calumhibee1]

Boredom is a real thing though.

A solid reason to close a thread right enough.

[gbhibby]

Why? :confused:

This is a message board for discussing Hibs. I don’t think this thread could be much more relevant if it tried and people are quite clearly still wanting to discuss the topic if they’re still posting on it.
We are going round in circles. We should be getting behind Hibs players. I would personally prefer to talk about the excellent saves he made during the game.

[calumhibee1]

We are going round in circles. We should be getting behind Hibs players. I would personally prefer to talk about the excellent saves he made during the game.

Without sounding like an arse, do it then. This is the thread for it.

His save from Charlie Adam was a really decent stop.

[gbhibby]

Without sounding like an arse, do it then. This is the thread for it.

His save from Charlie Adam was a really decent stop.
Think I already have. No need for abuse though. I am surprised by the amount of expert goalkeepers on here. I take it you have played in goals?

[hibsbollah]

A solid reason to close a thread right enough.

Glad you agree.

Admins, do your duty!

[bigwheel]

Why do we need to close this thread. It’s simply been a exchange of different opinions .

As Callum says, if people want to change the conversation, then people can post some new views …..

Some of Macey’s long range saves have been top drawer. He’s clearly got those skills in his locker . Will be good to see him develop further .

[Peevemor]

Why do we need to close this thread. It’s simply been a exchange of different opinions .

As Callum says, if people want to change the conversation, then people can post some new views …..

Some of Macey’s long range saves have been top drawer. He’s clearly got those skills in his locker . Will be good to see him develop further .He's also been excellent at one-on-ones and seems very agile for his size.

[calumhibee1]

Why do we need to close this thread. It’s simply been a exchange of different opinions .

As Callum says, if people want to change the conversation, then people can post some new views …..

Some of Macey’s long range saves have been top drawer. He’s clearly got those skills in his locker . Will be good to see him develop further .

Yup.

The forum really loses all purpose if threads are to be closed because people disagree, especially on something as minor as what’s been discussed here.

If people don’t like what’s being discussed on a thread, don’t agree with what’s being discussed on a thread or would like to take the thread of in another direction then the best way to deal with that is by posting. Not closing threads.

[gbhibby]

Why do we need to close this thread. It’s simply been a exchange of different opinions .

As Callum says, if people want to change the conversation, then people can post some new views …..

Some of Macey’s long range saves have been top drawer. He’s clearly got those skills in his locker . Will be good to see him develop further .
Agree but we have done it to death the 2nd goal

[bigwheel]

Agree but we have done it to death the 2nd goal

I agree gb…so let’s talk about something else , but closing a thread shouldn’t be needed. Let’s create new content or a new thread for people to engage with

[BS44]

Think I already have. No need for abuse though. I am surprised by the amount of expert goalkeepers on here. I take it you have played in goals?

I was the best goalie in the world anytime I ended up in goals while playing five and a kicking.

[007]

I liked Bogdan. Great all-round keeper, not getting a game at his current club, contract up next summer. I think we should go for him if Livi score from a cross at the weekend. 😀

[gbhibby]

I agree gb…so let’s talk about something else , but closing a thread shouldn’t be needed. Let’s create new content or a new thread for people to engage with
It was a tongue in cheek comment that other people have made when the subject has been done to death.

[leftfield]

I think Marciano was a good keeper but he followed a batch of poor ones and people took to him at once. Macy is following a good keeper and it might take a while longer for him to be appreciated. Hopefully he will earn the respect of the supporters with continuing good performances.

[calumhibee1]

I think Marciano was a good keeper but he followed a batch of poor ones and people took to him at once. Macy is following a good keeper and it might take a while longer for him to be appreciated. Hopefully he will earn the respect of the supporters with continuing good performances.

There’s probably a bit of truth in this to be fair.

I loved Rocky. He’s imo the best keeper I’ve seen at Hibs bar none. The fact he’s off to Feyenoord shows how good he is. But as you say, he was superb from the get go to most of us because he was such a huge improvement on what we’d had for 15 years or so.

[bigwheel]

There’s probably a bit of truth in this to be fair.

I loved Rocky. He’s imo the best keeper I’ve seen at Hibs bar none. The fact he’s off to Feyenoord shows how good he is. But as you say, he was superb from the get go to most of us because he was such a huge improvement on what we’d had for 15 years or so.

Me too. We were also blessed for a while with Bogdan as a second choice. How incredible was that . Not sure we’ve ever had that level Of quality in the goalkeeping dept in our history

Macey has a hard act to follow. He’s got off to a decent start. Will be interesting to see how he develops .

[loanheadhibby]

Amazing Macey is getting criticism about cross balls yet our last keeper never came out for crosses hardly ever and is rightly recognised as being a great keeper for us...some fans just seem desperate for Macey to fail...its quite sad tbh as he's done very little wrong for us so far and had a great couple of saves today
I agree, I get flack for being negative but not convinced he had done much wrong.
I don't buy this rubbish he was at fault for the two Motherwell goals in the cup last season.

[Smartie]

Me too. We were also blessed for a while with Bogdan as a second choice. How incredible was that . Not sure we’ve ever had that level Of quality in the goalkeeping dept in our history

Macey has a hard act to follow. He’s got off to a decent start. Will be interesting to see how he develops .

It's quite crazy tbh to think how long we struggled with the GK position to then end up with Bogdan as a 2nd choice for a while.

Changed days.

[gbhibby]

There’s probably a bit of truth in this to be fair.

I loved Rocky. He’s imo the best keeper I’ve seen at Hibs bar none. The fact he’s off to Feyenoord shows how good he is. But as you say, he was superb from the get go to most of us because he was such a huge improvement on what we’d had for 15 years or so.
Rocky not the best keeper I have seen at Hibs. Rocky is no 2 goalkeeper at Feyenoord not guaranteed a start.

[WhileTheChief..]

There were numerous posts in the match day thread about Macey’s saves keeping us in the game.

If it wasn’t for him, we’d have been discussing that goal as Dundee’s 5th, not their 2nd :greengrin

[Centre Hawf]

There were numerous posts in the match day thread about Macey’s saves keeping us in the game.

If it wasn’t for him, we’d have been discussing that goal as Dundee’s 5th, not their 2nd :greengrin

I don't want to sound like I'm bashing the guy but what I will say is that the saves he made are the type that I think you would expect a decent keeper to make, if we had someone in the goal that couldn't get to those shots then we would be in trouble over the course of the season.

When it came to a crunch moment he didn't come off his line to try and claim the ball or get anything on it once again and it makes me think he has a bit of a weakness in his game in that department.

We went through all of last season not conceding a header in the league with Rocky in goals, now he's number 1 and we've conceded about 3 off the top of my head so far including at least 1 in Europe. Go back to the goal that cost us the Cup final and it was another cross and header that slipped through while he was playing.

I'm not blaming him for every single cross/headed goal we concede, our defence has to tighten up and do more to help him out for sure. But it does leave me wondering what it was that Rocky did when it came to crosses, that Macey maybe isn't doing, to see such a contrast in our defending of crosses so far.

[Smartie]

I don't want to sound like I'm bashing the guy but what I will say is that the saves he made are the type that I think you would expect a decent keeper to make, if we had someone in the goal that couldn't get to those shots then we would be in trouble over the course of the season.

When it came to a crunch moment he didn't come off his line to try and claim the ball or get anything on it once again and it makes me think he has a bit of a weakness in his game in that department.

We went through all of last season not conceding a header in the league with Rocky in goals, now he's number 1 and we've conceded about 3 off the top of my head so far including at least 1 in Europe. Go back to the goal that cost us the Cup final and it was another cross and header that slipped through while he was playing.

I'm not blaming him for every single cross/headed goal we concede, our defence has to tighten up and do more to help him out for sure. But it does leave me wondering what it was that Rocky did when it came to crosses, that Macey maybe isn't doing, to see such a contrast in our defending of crosses so far.

I wouldn't necessarily disagree re the difficulty of the saves, but I thought one or two of them were of the type that were much easier for a 6 ft 7 goalkeeper to fling himself at and get to than someone 5 inches or so smaller.

I think this is a compliment I'm trying to give him - that if we had a smaller goalkeeper then the saves might have been a bit more difficult, less routine, and a bit more eye-catching, so it's easy to downplay the saves a wee bit.

[No.10]

It's quite crazy tbh to think how long we struggled with the GK position to then end up with Bogdan as a 2nd choice for a while.

Changed days.

McMullan beat Boyle and crossed from the apex of the box. The ball travelled no more than 20 yards in under 2 seconds to McGowan.

No way was the keeper at fault.

[MWHIBBIES]

Lazy cliche quote, seen many goals where one player has made a right mess of things his team mates had no part in where a goal has been lost.

Sure, but these goals aren't ones where someone has passed it right to an opposition player in front of goal. Those are pretty rare. Not marking someone is a bad mistake and yes, that player would be largely to blame, but good managers and teams do a bit more to prevent the opposition getting to that area than just ''you should've marked him, your fault''

[Mr. Wonderful]

I don't want to sound like I'm bashing the guy but what I will say is that the saves he made are the type that I think you would expect a decent keeper to make, if we had someone in the goal that couldn't get to those shots then we would be in trouble over the course of the season.

When it came to a crunch moment he didn't come off his line to try and claim the ball or get anything on it once again and it makes me think he has a bit of a weakness in his game in that department.

We went through all of last season not conceding a header in the league with Rocky in goals, now he's number 1 and we've conceded about 3 off the top of my head so far including at least 1 in Europe. Go back to the goal that cost us the Cup final and it was another cross and header that slipped through while he was playing.

I'm not blaming him for every single cross/headed goal we concede, our defence has to tighten up and do more to help him out for sure. But it does leave me wondering what it was that Rocky did when it came to crosses, that Macey maybe isn't doing, to see such a contrast in our defending of crosses so far.

If it leaves you wondering and you don't have an answer for it, perhaps you should refrain from singling anybody out (and thus quelling mythical poor reputations that come with it) until you do?

'We're conceding goals where we didn't before - must be Macey's fault, but I dunno how, but I'll blame him anyway just because' isn't the best of arguments.

[Mr. Wonderful]

Fans complained about us being boring last season but clearly they've enjoyed the rewards that came with it, this stat about headed goals from last season is one benefit of that.

This season we're markedly more expansive so far and we're going to have to accept that we might concede more goals as a result. We can't have it all ways.

[hibbysam]

McMullan beat Boyle and crossed from the apex of the box. The ball travelled no more than 20 yards in under 2 seconds to McGowan.

No way was the keeper at fault.

100%, it was flat, it was an in-swinger which meant the closest it got to him was when it hit the boys head. Only slight criticism you could have is his starting position bang on his line, off it at all and McGowan might get a bit of a fright. If he tries to read the cross and the boy in front flicks it in to an empty net we’d be going daft.

[Phil MaGlass]

I don't want to sound like I'm bashing the guy but what I will say is that the saves he made are the type that I think you would expect a decent keeper to make, if we had someone in the goal that couldn't get to those shots then we would be in trouble over the course of the season.

When it came to a crunch moment he didn't come off his line to try and claim the ball or get anything on it once again and it makes me think he has a bit of a weakness in his game in that department.

We went through all of last season not conceding a header in the league with Rocky in goals, now he's number 1 and we've conceded about 3 off the top of my head so far including at least 1 in Europe. Go back to the goal that cost us the Cup final and it was another cross and header that slipped through while he was playing.

I'm not blaming him for every single cross/headed goal we concede, our defence has to tighten up and do more to help him out for sure. But it does leave me wondering what it was that Rocky did when it came to crosses, that Macey maybe isn't doing, to see such a contrast in our defending of crosses so far.

These goals were lost through pi55 poor defending, nothing else, he will be big for us this year, of that I have no doubts, especially with that defence in front of him.

[blackpoolhibs]

Sure, but these goals aren't ones where someone has passed it right to an opposition player in front of goal. Those are pretty rare. Not marking someone is a bad mistake and yes, that player would be largely to blame, but good managers and teams do a bit more to prevent the opposition getting to that area than just ''you should've marked him, your fault''

The world wide web is full of goals that are down to one person making a right hash of it, i dont remember when my head was in my hands after 9 seconds of the semi final against Aberdeen thinking, we should have defended that better as a team.

[007]

I don't want to sound like I'm bashing the guy but what I will say is that the saves he made are the type that I think you would expect a decent keeper to make, if we had someone in the goal that couldn't get to those shots then we would be in trouble over the course of the season.

When it came to a crunch moment he didn't come off his line to try and claim the ball or get anything on it once again and it makes me think he has a bit of a weakness in his game in that department.

We went through all of last season not conceding a header in the league with Rocky in goals, now he's number 1 and we've conceded about 3 off the top of my head so far including at least 1 in Europe. Go back to the goal that cost us the Cup final and it was another cross and header that slipped through while he was playing.

I'm not blaming him for every single cross/headed goal we concede, our defence has to tighten up and do more to help him out for sure. But it does leave me wondering what it was that Rocky did when it came to crosses, that Macey maybe isn't doing, to see such a contrast in our defending of crosses so far.

If you've scored 3 headers then we have got a genuine reason to criticise.

[Shrekko]

I don't want to sound like I'm bashing the guy but what I will say is that the saves he made are the type that I think you would expect a decent keeper to make, if we had someone in the goal that couldn't get to those shots then we would be in trouble over the course of the season.

When it came to a crunch moment he didn't come off his line to try and claim the ball or get anything on it once again and it makes me think he has a bit of a weakness in his game in that department.

We went through all of last season not conceding a header in the league with Rocky in goals, now he's number 1 and we've conceded about 3 off the top of my head so far including at least 1 in Europe. Go back to the goal that cost us the Cup final and it was another cross and header that slipped through while he was playing.

I'm not blaming him for every single cross/headed goal we concede, our defence has to tighten up and do more to help him out for sure. But it does leave me wondering what it was that Rocky did when it came to crosses, that Macey maybe isn't doing, to see such a contrast in our defending of crosses so far.

You absolutely have to be kidding on this? What Rocky did when it came to crosses? I've heard it all now. That's what make this so ridiculous- so many people trying to highlight things like kicking and coming from crosses as being Macey weaknesses when they were obvious Marciano weaknesses, but somehow comparing Macey in a bad light to Marciano.

Looks very much like you're not giving him any credit for a great save... and it was (he made it look pretty easy) and then 'bashing the guy' for something erm... you're not really sure about.

To say the goal that 'cost us the cup final goal.. slipped through while he was playing' like it was somehow his fault we lost the cup, when it was another catalogue of poor defending from several outfield players maybe shows what Macey is up against to convince some fans. The header was like a bullet from an outswinger that should never have been allowed over in the first place.

[MWHIBBIES]

The world wide web is full of goals that are down to one person making a right hash of it, i dont remember when my head was in my hands after 9 seconds of the semi final against Aberdeen thinking, we should have defended that better as a team.

Yes, but those goals are a pretty small percentage of the millions that have been scored.

That Aberdeen goal was at least 2 peoples faults. McGinn and mcgregor.

Dunno why you're pushing this. I've already said goals do exist where 1 person just sells the shirt, but a vast majority aren't like that.

[J-C]

Macey is a pretty decent keeper, like Rocky he's a good shot stopper and makes very good saves and like Rocky he's not great at commanding his area or kicking. Little to choose between the 2, he's good for this level.

[Since452]

I think Marciano was a good keeper but he followed a batch of poor ones and people took to him at once. Macy is following a good keeper and it might take a while longer for him to be appreciated. Hopefully he will earn the respect of the supporters with continuing good performances.

I think you're right. People forget though that Marciano lost his place to two other keepers for a period of time because of poor performances. Luckily we had Bogdan to take Marciano's place who despite a dodgy start was the better keeper for me. Maxwell took Rocky's place as well and got harder time than i think he deserved. I often think Marciano is looked upon with rose tinted specs. He had some very questionable moments as well as some good ones and i felt he always slowed play down by taking an eternity with his distribution. Semi final with Hearts springs to mind.

[jacomo]

There’s probably a bit of truth in this to be fair.

I loved Rocky. He’s imo the best keeper I’ve seen at Hibs bar none. The fact he’s off to Feyenoord shows how good he is. But as you say, he was superb from the get go to most of us because he was such a huge improvement on what we’d had for 15 years or so.


Think you are betraying your (lack of) age there! Rocky was decent and I liked him but we’ve had better keepers imo… just not anytime recently!

Anyhow, Macey will do and with the glaring lack of depth in other positions in the squad I’d rather we addressed those first.

[blackpoolhibs]

Yes, but those goals are a pretty small percentage of the millions that have been scored.

That Aberdeen goal was at least 2 peoples faults. McGinn and mcgregor.

Dunno why you're pushing this. I've already said goals do exist where 1 person just sells the shirt, but a vast majority aren't like that.

I'm not pushing anything, i just dont believe the cliche of we defend as a team. I could name countless players who never put a tackle in, in their life. Derek Riordan was never a team player, Ally McLeod was a maverick who could open up a defence with the drop of a shoulder. Alan Obrien was hopeless at most things, but dont tell me he was any help in defending, i could name another 10 off the top of my head who only played for Hibs.

We win as a team and lose as a team, there's another phrase thats wrong, some players attack better, and some defend better, but individual mistakes occur every game that result in goals that are down to one or two players at most, not the team.

Russell Latapy theres a player i never wanted to see waste energy doing the donkey work, i'd much rather see him do things other players could only dream of doing, and if that meant we lost a few goals because of his lack of effort defensively, i didnt care one jot.

[calumhibee1]

Think you are betraying your (lack of) age there! Rocky was decent and I liked him but we’ve had better keepers imo… just not anytime recently!

Anyhow, Macey will do and with the glaring lack of depth in other positions in the squad I’d rather we addressed those first.

All I have to choose from that I genuinely remember is Nick Colgan onwards :greengrin

Leighton was my lifetime but before I can remember.

[Centre Hawf]

You absolutely have to be kidding on this? What Rocky did when it came to crosses? I've heard it all now. That's what make this so ridiculous- so many people trying to highlight things like kicking and coming from crosses as being Macey weaknesses when they were obvious Marciano weaknesses, but somehow comparing Macey in a bad light to Marciano.

Looks very much like you're not giving him any credit for a great save... and it was (he made it look pretty easy) and then 'bashing the guy' for something erm... you're not really sure about.

To say the goal that 'cost us the cup final goal.. slipped through while he was playing' like it was somehow his fault we lost the cup, when it was another catalogue of poor defending from several outfield players maybe shows what Macey is up against to convince some fans. The header was like a bullet from an outswinger that should never have been allowed over in the first place.

I'm only highlighting the difference in this season and last. The type of goals we conceded with two different keepers in goal. I've not suggested Macey cost us the final, the goal itself did. There was many more to blame for it (Doig unable to challenge Rooney, Gogic selling himself to let Wotherspoon have a free cross come to mind first). I'm not even really suggesting Macey is doing anything wrong, but more that we're not doing something we were last year and the back 4 has been the same for the most part.


These goals were lost through pi55 poor defending, nothing else, he will be big for us this year, of that I have no doubts, especially with that defence in front of him.

I agree the defence hasn't covered themselves in glory.


If it leaves you wondering and you don't have an answer for it, perhaps you should refrain from singling anybody out (and thus quelling mythical poor reputations that come with it) until you do?

'We're conceding goals where we didn't before - must be Macey's fault, but I dunno how, but I'll blame him anyway just because' isn't the best of arguments.

It's a thread about Matt Macey so I'm going to discuss him in it. I haven't even really blamed him, the defence needs to take a look at themselves. But I'm asking a question about why we've conceded so many headers compared to last season when the only change in personnel is him.

Does he not like to come for crosses? Then the defence need to know they need to go win everything that comes in. I've played with plenty of keepers that aren't strong at coming for a cross and as such we all knew that we had to deal with it first, on the flip side I've played with a keeper that would come for absolutely everything and we could account for that as well. It's about how we adjust to the change in keeper.

[J-C]

I'm not pushing anything, i just dont believe the cliche of we defend as a team. I could name countless players who never put a tackle in, in their life. Derek Riordan was never a team player, Ally McLeod was a maverick who could open up a defence with the drop of a shoulder. Alan Obrien was hopeless at most things, but dont tell me he was any help in defending, i could name another 10 off the top of my head who only played for Hibs.

We win as a team and lose as a team, there's another phrase thats wrong, some players attack better, and some defend better, but individual mistakes occur every game that result in goals that are down to one or two players at most, not the team.

Russell Latapy theres a player i never wanted to see waste energy doing the donkey work, i'd much rather see him do things other players could only dream of doing, and if that meant we lost a few goals because of his lack of effort defensively, i didnt care one jot.

Don't always agree with you G but all that is spot on, Allan is another, I'd rather see him putting in defence splitting passes rather than chasing about in mifield trying to tackle.

[Smartie]

Don't always agree with you G but all that is spot on, Allan is another, I'd rather see him putting in defence splitting passes rather than chasing about in mifield trying to tackle.

I'm sure at one point Scott Allan mentioned that he didn't like playing as far forward as he has often had to play whilst at Hibs of late - he prefers to play deeper, not because he loves the defensive side of the game but because he can still drop the shoulder and play the through balls only from a deeper position.

[hibsbollah]

I'm not pushing anything, i just dont believe the cliche of we defend as a team. I could name countless players who never put a tackle in, in their life. Derek Riordan was never a team player, Ally McLeod was a maverick who could open up a defence with the drop of a shoulder. Alan Obrien was hopeless at most things, but dont tell me he was any help in defending, i could name another 10 off the top of my head who only played for Hibs.

We win as a team and lose as a team, there's another phrase thats wrong, some players attack better, and some defend better, but individual mistakes occur every game that result in goals that are down to one or two players at most, not the team.

Russell Latapy theres a player i never wanted to see waste energy doing the donkey work, i'd much rather see him do things other players could only dream of doing, and if that meant we lost a few goals because of his lack of effort defensively, i didnt care one jot.

Agree with all of that.

[J-C]

I'm sure at one point Scott Allan mentioned that he didn't like playing as far forward as he has often had to play whilst at Hibs of late - he prefers to play deeper, not because he loves the defensive side of the game but because he can still drop the shoulder and play the through balls only from a deeper position.

My point still stands, he's a playmaker not an all round get stuck in midfielder, it's his dummies, drop of the shoulder etc that makes him the player he is.

[Stevie Reid]

I think you're right. People forget though that Marciano lost his place to two other keepers for a period of time because of poor performances. Luckily we had Bogdan to take Marciano's place who despite a dodgy start was the better keeper for me. Maxwell took Rocky's place as well and got harder time than i think he deserved. I often think Marciano is looked upon with rose tinted specs. He had some very questionable moments as well as some good ones and i felt he always slowed play down by taking an eternity with his distribution. Semi final with Hearts springs to mind.

Definitely an element of truth in what you’re saying about appraisals of Rocky’s time here - as good as he was, and I really liked him.

I posted about it on the PM board a few weeks ago, and had found a thread started about Marciano in September 2017, just after we had drawn 2-2 with Motherwell, a few games into our SPL return, and about 35 games into Rocky’s Hibs career.

There were serious questions being asked of him at that point, so it’s definitely not true to say that he won everyone over from day one - I had made similar points to you about Rocky being dropped due to loss of form a couple of times, also.

Rocky was definitely our best keeper since Andersson, but it’s far too early to assess whether Macey is a downgrade on him. He may well be shown to be over time, but that doesn’t mean that he can’t still be a good goalkeeper for us.

Let’s see what happens. I certainly don’t see any glaring deficiencies, and the areas that he seems not quite as good at were not Rocky’s strongest aspects either.

[Since452]

Definitely an element of truth in what you’re saying about appraisals of Rocky’s time here - as good as he was, and I really liked him.

I posted about it on the PM board a few weeks ago, and had found a thread started about Marciano in September 2017, just after we had drawn 2-2 with Motherwell, a few games into our SPL return, and about 35 games into Rocky’s Hibs career.

There were serious questions being asked of him at that point, so it’s definitely not true to say that he won everyone over from day one - I had made similar points to you about Rocky being dropped due to loss of form a couple of times, also.

Rocky was definitely our best keeper since Andersson, but it’s far too early to assess whether Macey is a downgrade on him. He may well be shown to be over time, but that doesn’t mean that he can’t still be a good goalkeeper for us.

Let’s see what happens. I certainly don’t see any glaring deficiencies, and the areas that he seems not quite as good at were not Rocky’s strongest aspects either.

That's where i am. Right now i'm as comfortable with Macey in goals as i was Marciano. That may change for the better or for the worse but i've seen enough of Macey now to be optimistic. He has age on his side too. My worry is people will pounce on his first mistake (all keepers make them) and that isn't good for anyone.

[hibbysam]

I'm sure at one point Scott Allan mentioned that he didn't like playing as far forward as he has often had to play whilst at Hibs of late - he prefers to play deeper, not because he loves the defensive side of the game but because he can still drop the shoulder and play the through balls only from a deeper position.

Prefers it as he gets more time and space, whereas final third is congested with lots of bodies.

[007]

That's where i am. Right now i'm as comfortable with Macey in goals as i was Marciano. That may change for the better or for the worse but i've seen enough of Macey now to be optimistic. He has age on his side too. My worry is people will pounce on his first mistake (all keepers make them) and that isn't good for anyone.

Exactly. He's bound to make a howler at some point, this place will go into meltdown.

[eastterrace]

Exactly. He's bound to make a howler at some point, this place will go into meltdown.
Better hope it’s no against hearts and if it’s a cross ball as well.

[Stevie Reid]

Hopefully won over a few doubters today. Superb performance

[Bridge hibs]

Hopefully won over a few doubters today. Superb performancewas excellent, some class saves

[Borderhibbie76]

Absolutely superb today as was Gordon for them

[Col2]

Outstanding in everything he did. Faultless and made some brilliant saves.

[Scooter]

Hopefully won over a few doubters today. Superb performance

Unbelievable performance from him.

[Bridge hibs]

My man of the match

[Allant1981]

Different class today, also got to wonder why celtic let craig gordon go

[hibsbollah]

Confidence oozes out of him. Still looks a lot like Dominic Raab but you can’t have everything.

[bingo70]

Hopefully won over a few doubters today. Superb performance

Absolutely.

Terrific performance and I actually thought before his big saves that I’ve started to feel really safe with him in goals.

Lots of people were saying fans were waiting for him to make a mistake in a derby to jump on his back but that performance will have had the opposite effect.

Anybody such as myself who had a couple of concerns will be reassured by that performance.

He was superb.

[Northernhibee]

He’s absolutely excellent. What a time for Hibs keepers. GMS will still be wondering how he’s not getting high sixes as a derby winner.

[glenberviehibee]

Thought he was outstanding today.

[jeffers]

Think overall he’s been really good for us and excellent today.

[Swedish hibee]

Fantastic today. MOTM.

[ozwoody]

Very enjoyable, open game. Both keepers were outstanding.
Maceys save from Mackay-Stevens and Gordon's from nisbet and mcguiness were standouts

[mayo hibee]

Not entirely sure why there was any doubt about him before now, because he has been solid all along, but he took it to another level today. Outstanding.

[weecounty hibby]

Different class today, also got to wonder why celtic let craig gordon go

Cos he doesn't have a fancy European name, played in the EPL nor is he a celtic man

[Bobby's Cinema]

Solid, dependable and already made big saves in big games- everything you want as a keeper up to now

[J-C]

Very good keeper and performances like that will give his defence a lot of confidence.

[Vault Boy]

Absolutely outstanding performance.

[matty_f]

Won us the point today as much as Gordon won Hearts theirs.

[Tambo]

Back 5 today have definitely earned this weeks wage.

[CL0762]

He was absolutely outstanding today. That save from Mackay-Steven was tremendous.

[LeithMike]

I've not been convinced by him to date but that's changed as of today. Terrific stop from GMS and they could have played all day and not got the ball past him. Outstanding - same for Gordon although the GMS save was by far the most difficult.

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[hibsbollah]

I've not been convinced by him to date but that's changed as of today. Terrific stop from GMS and they could have played all day and not got the ball past him. Outstanding - same for Gordon although the GMS save was by far the most difficult.

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If you watch it over a few times the reaction time from GMS hitting the shot and him making the full length dive is infinitesimal. He just chose a side and exploded. Chose right and executed perfectly, unbelievable save.

[MrRobot]

He is an outstanding keeper.

[LeithMike]

If you watch it over a few times the reaction time from GMS hitting the shot and him making the full length dive is infinitesimal. He just chose a side and exploded. Chose right and executed perfectly, unbelievable save.Really good point. To be fair my original concern was around his reactions but always thought he looked good when he knew what he was doing (shots from distance or where he made up his mind without knowing in the case of pens). Seen enough today though to address my concerns and we'd go through a lot of goalkeepers to fimd better.

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[Andy74]

Excellent today.

[007]

He was absolutely outstanding today. That save from Mackay-Steven was tremendous.

Has he conceded yet when someone was clean through on goal? Can't remember any but can remember him saving several.

[Pretty Boy]

Earned his wages this week that's for sure. Some superb saves and generally composed and commanding.

Had it not been for both keepers we may well have been discussing a 3-3 draw.

[CL0762]

Has he conceded yet when someone was clean through on goal? Can't remember any but can remember him saving several.

Not to my knowledge. 1 on 1’s he’s excellent with. My only gripe is that he seems to stick to his line a wee bit too often for my liking.

[BILLYHIBS]

Brilliant save from Hanlon’s knee where he managed to make sure by getting finger tips to it

[bingo70]

Brilliant save from Hanlon’s knee where he managed to make sure by getting finger tips to it

Reminded me of Gunnarsons OG effort in the 2-2 cup game at Tynecastle.

[Shrekko]

I’ve had a good feeling about him since his first game - think we have pulled off an absolute master stroke signing him. His level of performance has been absolutely spot on since day one.

[Inconsequential]

I’ve had a good feeling about him since his first game - think we have pulled off an absolute master stroke signing him. His level of performance has been absolutely spot on since day one. Yip, totally agree. Great minds think alike. :greengrin

[Bangkok Hibby]

Excellent today.

can't help thinking that very short and to the point post leaves the door open for you to have a go if he makes a mistake "another day" 😀
Perhaps not. Glad you appreciated his contribution.

[calumhibee1]

He was very good today :agree:

[Centre Hawf]

Excellent performance from him today. Was the difference in us getting a point and getting nothing at all.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Excellent today.

Fair play to ya.

[CapitalGreen]

Always good to see people hold there hands up and admit that they were wrong.

[Leithenhibby]

Won us the point today as much as Gordon won Hearts theirs.

Agree, goalies on top today...

[CMurdoch]

His save from GMS was the absolute moment of the match.
Other saves made by the keepers were decent but that one was way way way off the scale.
The word goal had already lodged in my brain when he sprung full length. Wonderful!

Every player replacing a top player always finds it difficult to get full fan acceptance.
That save should be the moment where he is totally accepted as Marciano's able replacement by the vast majority of Hibs fans.
Could have been earlier with his penalty save in the final but his team-mates covered that up with the painful result.

Macey now has credit in the Hibs supporter bank.
Good on him.

[Hibee Mac]

His save from GMS was the absolute moment of the match.
Other saves made by the keepers were decent but that one was way way way off the scale.
The word goal had already lodged in my brain when he sprung full length. Wonderful!

Every player replacing a top player always finds it difficult to get full fan acceptance.
That save should be the moment where he is totally accepted as Marciano's able replacement by Hibs fans.
Could have been the penalty save in the final but his team-mates blew that for him.

Macey now has credit in the Hibs supporter bank.Very well said. I had been a little skeptical at times up to now, but like you say he's got credit in the bank now. Kept us in it today, as Gordon does for them all the time...

[hibsbollah]

Really good point. To be fair my original concern was around his reactions but always thought he looked good when he knew what he was doing (shots from distance or where he made up his mind without knowing in the case of pens). Seen enough today though to address my concerns and we'd go through a lot of goalkeepers to fimd better.

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Plus, the usual gripe about very tall keepers is they can’t make low saves either side of their feet because it takes them too long to get down. Not on today’s evidence :aok:

[Lancs Harp]

Both keepers were pretty much outstanding today. Could easily have been a 2-2 or 3-3, well played Matt.

[CmoantheHibs]

His save from GMS was the absolute moment of the match.
Other saves made by the keepers were decent but that one was way way way off the scale.
The word goal had already lodged in my brain when he sprung full length. Wonderful!

Every player replacing a top player always finds it difficult to get full fan acceptance.
That save should be the moment where he is totally accepted as Marciano's able replacement by the vast majority of Hibs fans.
Could have been the penalty save in the final but his team-mates covered that up with the painful result.

Macey now has credit in the Hibs supporter bank.
When GMS hit the shot I thought it was a certain goal. Quite how he saved that I’m not sure but it was a magnificent save and undoubtedly the best save in the match.

[JohnM1875]

Big man was different gravy today. As soon as MacKay-Steven was through I was sure it was a goal. Unreal save!

[Big_Franck]

Macey seems to be getting better and better which is great to see. He's becoming more of a presence as he grows in confidence as well. That save from Mckay-Steven was a huge moment in the game. Hopefully he continues this form.

[007]

Macey seems to be getting better and better which is great to see. He's becoming more of a presence as he grows in confidence as well. That save from Mckay-Steven was a huge moment in the game. Hopefully he continues this form.

I think he's getting sharper. Probably needed a run of games which he's now getting.

[H18 SFR]

He’s making big saves in big games.

Excellent piece of recruitment.

[eastterrace]

He’s making big saves in big games.

Excellent piece of recruitment.ive criticise him before but he was immense today and hopefully he kicks on from here on in.

[Hibee Mac]

Saw him speaking about the atmosphere and that it loved up to/exceeded his expectations.

Fantastic to see him stepping up to the plate in that situation and you could tell he was buzzing, more where that came from please.

[Magpie]

Proving to be the ideal replacement for Marciano.

[Northernhibee]

I think he's getting sharper. Probably needed a run of games which he's now getting.

A touch of the Bogdan about him in that respect.

[Peevemor]

Maybe it's just me, but he seems more focused on the match and on doing his job than other keepers I can remember. He uses minimum resources on other stuff - shouting at his defence or the referee, tussling with opposition players at corners, etc.

He's a machine.

[Mr. Wonderful]

His save from GMS was the absolute moment of the match.
Other saves made by the keepers were decent but that one was way way way off the scale.
The word goal had already lodged in my brain when he sprung full length. Wonderful!

Every player replacing a top player always finds it difficult to get full fan acceptance.
That save should be the moment where he is totally accepted as Marciano's able replacement by the vast majority of Hibs fans.
Could have been earlier with his penalty save in the final but his team-mates covered that up with the painful result.

Macey now has credit in the Hibs supporter bank.
Good on him.

He's better than Rocky.

[Mr. Wonderful]

A touch of the Bogdan about him in that respect.

Bogdan was average. Macey is good

[Stuart93]

Maybe it's just me, but he seems more focused on the match and on doing his job than other keepers I can remember. He uses minimum resources on other stuff - shouting at his defence or the referee, tussling with opposition players at corners, etc.

He's a machine.

Looks the real deal.

When the game was going on you could hear him shouting plenty instructions to his defence though, in the first half obviously.

[Peevemor]

Looks the real deal.

When the game was going on you could hear him shouting plenty instructions to his defence though, in the first half obviously.I'm not saying he doesn't communicate, but he's efficient with it - compared to that bampot at Ibrox...

[Smartie]

He needed to have a good game in a big game to win a few extra people over and hopefully he's done that today (even turning a blind eye to a penalty-saving performance in a cup final, and making big saves on the way to that final).

I like Macey a lot, and hopefully he'll take confidence from today and kick on even further.

[O'Rourke3]

Bogdan was average. Macey is goodCan't agree. He was rusty for a few games as he'd not played for a long while but was easily our best keeper when fit. Marciano's game was upped massively inowing he'd be dropped for a poor performance. As he didn't get back in the team, he declined to sign a contract.

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[erin go bragh]

Bogdan was average. Macey is good

Bogdan kept a fit Marciano out of the team until he picked up an injury.
All three keepers are very good

[Jones28]

That save low down is one of the best I’ve seen a Hibs goalie make.

[007]

Macey's saves earned us a point. Craig Gordon's stopped us getting the other 2.

[superfurryhibby]

It was a very good display from Macey, he made some really high quality saves and overall, he looked full of confidence.

Ross said that this was the first chance Macey had had to secure a number one spot at a club and praised his attitude and personality.

He looks like he is going to be a very good signing.

[SHODAN]

Honestly think his best save was from Hanlon's backpass!

[JimBHibees]

Great performance by Matt yesterday. The saves from Mackay Steven and Hanlon slice were fantastic so quickly down to the first save. Looked a much more difficult save than looked at the game.

[jacomo]

Can't agree. He was rusty for a few games as he'd not played for a long while but was easily our best keeper when fit. Marciano's game was upped massively inowing he'd be dropped for a poor performance. As he didn't get back in the team, he declined to sign a contract.

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:agree:

Bogdan might be ‘average’ compared to top level keepers but certainly not in the context of our division.

[Weegreenman]

If he keeps playing like that, we’ll be in danger of losing him. Magnificent performance.

[007]

If he keeps playing like that, we’ll be in danger of losing him. Magnificent performance.

Maybe those who've been critical of him were actually acting out a cunning plan.

[GRA]

Bogdan was average. Macey is good

Not sure why Bogdan gets such a bad rep, was far better than average. He was the reason we went through v Asteras in 2018 made four super saves in the 2nd half.

Macey has barely put a foot wrong since joining. Glad he's finally getting a consistent run of games the recognition he deserves, keeps up that form and he will be a massive player for us this season.

[BlackSheep]

Having started this thread i thought i would chip in my recent thoughts.

I started by saying we had seen glimpses of how good Macey is and i will update that to we are seeing a lot of great things from Matt as each game goes on.

Had a great game yesterday and the save from Mackay-Steven one on one is definitely a game changer, and not a save i think Marciano would have made.

The low down save too is one worth plaudits, for a lad of his stature its very hard to get down to attempts close to his feet so well done there.

I still feel vulnerable when balls are coming into the box high and from set pieces though and i hope this progresses over his time here, sooner rather than later hopefully.

I was chatting with one of the hibs youth players yesterday too who agreed that his command of the box (including organising the players in front of him) needs a wee bit of work but overall he is gaining that confidence as the games go on... yesterday will have been a massive confidence booster.

[CMurdoch]

He's better than Rocky.

Matt is 27 years old and has only played 75 career games so still has a bit to go before making that judgement but he has performed well in big games and hopefully can keep performing at that level. His strengths and weaknesses are similar to Marciano which we can live with at our level.

A good replacement for Marciano with Magennis and Doyle-Hayes good replacements for Irvine.
That leaves us a McKay, Cadden, Wood and Muller up this season.
Only fall from last season has been the hellish loss of Doidge.

I m very confident Hibs will continue to improve the squad year on year.
Right now we just need to reach Christmas this season which will see Doidge and Muller bolster our resources.
Murphy, Hallberg and Mackie to return in the interim and Macey further establishing himself.

[H18S NX]

Bogdan kept a fit Marciano out of the team until he picked up an injury.
All three keepers are very good...Yip :aok:

[Shrekko]

:agree:

Bogdan might be ‘average’ compared to top level keepers but certainly not in the context of our division.

Bogdan was as good as Rocky -better in my opinion but think it was close enough that you’d say that’s only personal preference. Also think Macey is on a par at least with both and hopefully will get better with more experience. We honestly have been ok in the goalie department for a few years now. None of them have been perfect but all pretty damn good.

[theonlywayisup]

I always pop into this thread every now and then to see what's being said.

I know football is all about opinions, but I really can't understand the negative comments aimed at Macey from a relatively early stage in his career. Maybe some people are much better informed than I about goalkeeping, but I can't recall many occasions of when I've been concerned about what he's done. Okay, his kicking was suspect at times and maybe he could have left his line sooner.

However, every week in the EPL, I see examples of poor goalkeeping (Newcastle example this week). I always say to anyone who will listen "imagine if a Hibs goalie did that". Thankfully, Macey (and Rocky) hasn't, so I really struggle to understand some people's opinion on Macey. I have come to realise that, yes, every poster is allowed to voice their opinion, but there are some opinions that are immediately put into the "ignore" bin.

[Since452]

He was every bit as good as Craig Gordon yesterday who is a phenomenal keeper. Says it all really.

[jacomo]

He was every bit as good as Craig Gordon yesterday who is a phenomenal keeper. Says it all really.


More than a decade younger though.

Not even Gordon can go on forever… can he?

[gbhibby]

Feel more comfortable with Macey than with Rocky. If he can improve his distribution clubs will take notice. Will only get better, great find by recruitment team and he seems to love the club.

[Bangkok Hibby]

Proving to be the ideal replacement for Marciano.

Better IMO

[gbhibby]

Better IMO
Agree, Rocky is not first choice for Feyenoord and would not be first choice for Hibs if he had not moved on.