Scotland V England

[Hibs Class]

Armstrong on for Gilmour

[Pretty Boy]

Very impressed by Gilmour tonight. He can be more than happy with his evenings work.

[overdrive]

Anyone notice Innes Murray in the stand with the guy that they zoomed in on dancing around?

[Moulin Yarns]

Adams, off balance

[cabbageandribs1875]

adams balloons it towards peckham, or wherever

[Hibs Class]

Adams panics, blasts over

Actually slices it

[Pretty Boy]

Adams needs to show more composure there. Ball did skid up at a fair lick tbf.

[Jim44]

Rush of blood to the brain, Adams.

[Iain G]

adams balloons it towards peckham, or wherever

Bent it like Peckham

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

What has Adams tried there??

[Moulin Yarns]

Book him for diving

[cabbageandribs1875]

ha ha ha sterling with his customery dive

[Iain G]

Diving barsteward!

[Pretty Boy]

**** off Sterling. Diving rat.

He kicks Robertson.

[Sir David Gray]

Cheating ******* Sterling.

[Hibs Class]

Scotland just ahead on goal attempts

[Moulin Yarns]

Great tackle

[cabbageandribs1875]

brilliant from hanley

[Lago]

Irrespective of the final score, Scotland have playrd well tonight.

[Moulin Yarns]

If only they had played like this against the Czech Republic

[cabbageandribs1875]

what on earth is mings complaining at

[hibee_girl]

Here comes Nisbet

[Moulin Yarns]

Nisbet comes on

[HendoDelivered]

Cmon nizzy

[cabbageandribs1875]

nisbet gets 5 mins, well done adams

[Hiber-nation]

Take back everything I said about O'Donnell, he has been immense.

[Aldo]

If truth be told I’ve never rated Hanley but he’s been outstanding this evening!


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[SJNB Hibby]

Nizzy this is your moment!!

[Hibs Class]

Nisbet on for Adams. Just wish he was given more than five minutes

[makaveli1875]

Winner from Nisbet incoming

[cabbageandribs1875]

aw man waste of a free kick

[Moulin Yarns]

Oh come on. Fairy tales do come true

[CmoantheHibs]

Cmon Nissy make yourself a hero.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Adams has put in a real shift

[Aldo]

Why did Mings not get booked??


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[Sir David Gray]

Why did Mings not get booked??


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Exactly.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Why did Mings not get booked??


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Home player

[Moulin Yarns]

What a stramash

[cabbageandribs1875]

pride restored :saltireflag:saltireflag:saltireflag:saltireflag if only...

[Moulin Yarns]

Yas

[Sir David Gray]

Great result, well done Scotland.

[Jim44]

Scotland just ahead on goal attempts

We’re we’re the better team. A draw will do.

[Hibs Class]

Good performance, fairly entertaining for a 0-0, given ourselves a chance of progressing

[Onion]

One word... Proud :thumbsup:

[Forever_Green93]

Good result, great performance! well done lads!

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

What a gutsy performance.

[CmoantheHibs]

Absolute stars to a man. Every single one of them. Fantastic result and performance.

[Iain G]

Nice to see Chilwell hugging and congratulating Gilmour at the end there

[Pretty Boy]

Outstanding to a man. Every single player stood up and was counted.

Gilmour, McGinn, Robertson et al will make the headlines but I thought Hanley was a colossus at the back tonight. Old fashioned Centre half performance.

We have kept ourselves well and truly alive in this group and for all the criticism aimed at Clarke and the team on Monday they praise should be just as forthcoming and just as deserved.

[HendoDelivered]

Ill take that 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼💙

[Aldo]

What a superb team performance!

Grant Hanley my MOTM closely followed by Dykes but some amazing performances


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[Lago]

That was a good game, what a team performance.

[Scorrie]

What a performance to a man

[Hibernia&Alba]

We were the better team tonight.

[J-C]

Happy with that, chances both sides but we played very well and dug in, answers a few questions after the Czech games.

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

Well done Scotland. Shut a few of the doubters up. Aye Rio, it was gonna be easy. Prat. 😁

[Mr Grieves]

Brilliant, every one of our players performed

[Lancs Harp]

Well played lads, MOTM for me Grant Hanley.

Very important point too, sets up a cracker against Croatia at Hampden.

[Northernhibee]

Very impressive. Actually a little gutted as with a lucky break we could have won that.

[The_Exile]

Great performance and England couldn't have complained had we stuck one of those chances away and won. Cannot wait until Tuesday night now, the lads will be chomping at the bit to get to kick off too.

[makaveli1875]

What a superb team performance!

Grant Hanley my MOTM closely followed by Dykes but some amazing performances


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Had a few contenders . Robertson and Mcginn covered some amount of yards . Gilmour was class . McGregor was excellent . O'Donnell shut a few people up . Tierney did well . Che Adams put in a good shift

[Peevemor]

Very impressive. Actually a little gutted as with a lucky break we could have won that.Yep. Gutsy but also well disciplined.

Hopefully we can keep it going.

[SJNB Hibby]

One word... Proud :thumbsup:


:saltireflag:saltireflag

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

The English must have sneaked out early

[Aldo]

Had a few contenders . Robertson and Mcginn covered some amount of yards . Gilmour was class . McGregor was excellent . O'Donnell shut a few people up . Tierney did well . Che Adams put in a good shift

Outstanding Team performance but like I say I thought Hanley and Dykes were outstanding


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[David_D]

Must admit I was sceptical when I seen O’Donnell was playing but he was superb. Every one of them done the job they were given. Unfortunate not to get a win. Outstanding

[CloudSquall]

Feels like a win given the post-match feeling against the Czech Republic and how the majority (including me) thought it was just a question of "how much?" the defeat was going to be by.


What a feeling to go into the game vs Croatia knowing it is all to play for.

[Moulin Yarns]

We were the better team tonight.

BBC website

"England had the better chances in a tight game" WTAF

[Billy Whizz]

What a superb team performance!

Grant Hanley my MOTM closely followed by Dykes but some amazing performances


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It was, but only if we win next week

[Vault Boy]

Such a strong performance, proud of the boys. Very much enjoyed watching it in London surrounded by England fans.

[Onion]

Every player missing from the Czech game was there tonight. McGregor was magnificent. McGinn a class above, Dykes a sensation. Every Scotland player wore the jersey with pride and did us proud.

So pleased for all those who travelled to Londonshire. No goalpost this time, sadly. :greengrin

[CMurdoch]

All the players were exceptional tonight.
Brutally hard work from the 7 players in front of the back 3!
Ran themselves into the ground.

[Andy74]

Outstanding Team performance but like I say I thought Hanley and Dykes were outstanding


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Dykes was the worst player in our team. Won some headers but put us in trouble a few times by not holding it up. Needs to be much stronger when it isn’t just to be flicked on.

[Aldo]

It was, but only if we win next week

Cmon Billy just live in the moment.

For the first time every my 12 year old and 17 year old daughters sat and watched the whole game with me!


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[Jim44]

The ITV twat of a commentator, getting frustrated because his team weren’t strolling away with it, comes out with “Scotland are the third lowest ranking team in the tournament…… what does that say for us?” The English media turn turn quickly their own.

[Iain G]

Ian Wright is upset, which always cheers me up!!

[Billy Whizz]

Has anyone see Phil Foden

[Aldo]

Dykes was the worst player in our team. Won some headers but put us in trouble a few times by not holding it up. Needs to be much stronger when it isn’t just to be flicked on.

Opinion Andy. I thought he was very good this evening.


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[SteveHFC]

Proud

[Scorrie]

Ian Wright is upset, which always cheers me up!!

Made my night that!

[heretoday]

Poor game. Wales would have beaten either team, I reckon.

[Moulin Yarns]

So, what do we need in order to qualify, other than win against Croatia? Czech Republic to beat England or is a draw enough?

[Iain G]

Made my night that!

Feels like he is just about to burst out in tears 🤣

[Sioux]

It was, but only if we win next week

Tonight's performance stands on it's own merit. What happens next week doesn't change that.

[Smartie]

Must admit I was sceptical when I seen O’Donnell was playing but he was superb. Every one of them done the job they were given. Unfortunate not to get a win. Outstanding

It was a night for maligned players to answer a few questions.

Hanley, McGregor, Dykes, McTominay as a CH - all were outstanding.

So impressed tonight, and delighted with Clarke for going with the team he did. There were tough and brave decisions to be made and he picked the team to get the result.

[Peevemor]

Scotland getting all the post-match plaudits on French TV , including from Youri Djorkaeff who's a brilliant pundit.

[wookie70]

Dykes was the worst player in our team. Won some headers but put us in trouble a few times by not holding it up. Needs to be much stronger when it isn’t just to be flicked on.

Very harsh, I don't think he was near our best but he had a decent game. Adams was very good and I would give O'Donnell my MOTM but plenty options.

[Moulin Yarns]

Tannoy blasting out Yes Sir I Can Boogie

[JohnMcM]

We’ll maybe draw against Croatia and go out, but man, it’s such a joy to listen to all the English pundits telling us why they didn’t win but without giving our boys any real credit.

Feel their pain people, it’s pleasing to the soul.

[Sioux]

Poor game. Wales would have beaten either team, I reckon.

FFS. There's always one.

[CloudSquall]

Ian Wright is upset, which always cheers me up!!


It didn't take much for the masks to slip to reveal the "just need to turn up" mentality the majority of them had in regards to this game.

[Iain G]

It was a night for maligned players to answer a few questions.

Hanley, McGregor, Dykes, McTominay as a CH - all were outstanding.

So impressed tonight, and delighted with Clarke for going with the team he did. There were tough and brave decisions to be made and he picked the team to get the result.

And Billy Gilmour should be an ever present in that midfield from now on

[Moulin Yarns]

Poor game. Wales would have beaten either team, I reckon.

🙄 Opinions, eh!! Really entertaining 0-0 draw for anyone who was a bit engaged in the game.

[Iain G]

It didn't take much for the masks to slip to reveal the "just need to turn up" mentality the majority of them had in regards to this game.

Just makes it that little bit sweeter.

Souness said "Football's not coming home, not with that team" 🤣

[wookie70]

So, what do we need in order to qualify, other than win against Croatia? Czech Republic to beat England or is a draw enough?

It would be very Scottish to finish 3rd on 4 pts and still not get through.

[Callum_62]

Just makes it that little bit sweeter.

Souness said "Football's not coming home, not with that team" [emoji1787]A really nice dig that [emoji3]

They were ripping into Kane too

2 games, 3 shots, none on target

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[cabbageandribs1875]

Tannoy blasting out Yes Sir I Can Boogie


it's like the old days, when we used to take over Wembley and made it ours

[Hiber-nation]

Poor game. Wales would have beaten either team, I reckon.

Rubbish.

[Jim44]

Ian Wright is the biggest tosser in English punditry. He can’t control his emotions and becomes incoherent. :greengrin:greengrin

[Jim44]

Can’t stand Souness but he spoke well there tonight.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Is there a way for England to go out??

[SJNB Hibby]

So, what do we need in order to qualify, other than win against Croatia? Czech Republic to beat England or is a draw enough?

Wont know till the last round of matches, but if we beat Croatia and the Czechs beat England, we could get 2nd with enough of a gd swing

[Iain G]

Andy Robertson is quite impressive during his post match interview, a good captain

[wookie70]

Ian Wright is the biggest tosser in English punditry. He can’t control his emotions and becomes incoherent. :greengrin:greengrin
He is like that when he is fully in control of his emotions

[HoboHarry]

Poor game. Wales would have beaten either team, I reckon.

Miserable git, get a life.

[Lancs Harp]

�� Opinions, eh!! Really entertaining 0-0 draw for anyone who was a bit engaged in the game.

It was incredibly tense wasnt it. OK Im sure purists in Spain and France will be saying it was technicially inept but spirit endevour pace and committment is on another level. It was a great game as far as nail biting was concerned.Everything to play for for all four countries going into the last game. Great stuff.

Fair play Scotland.

[Crunchie]

I want to greet when I see O'Donnell's name on the team sheet but there are positives.
O'donnell was immense tonight, a few apologies should be going his way after the ott abuse he got last game.

[cabbageandribs1875]

hopefully don't put a bogey on our game v Croatia but i knew we had a pretty decent record against them, so after a quick google


P-5

W-2
D-3

:cool2:

[Lancs Harp]

hopefully don't put a bogey on our game v Croatia but i knew we had a pretty decent record against them, so after a quick google


P-5

W-2
D-3

:cool2:

Scotlands issue is finding a goal

[Moulin Yarns]

Wont know till the last round of matches, but if we beat Croatia and the Czechs beat England, we could get 2nd with enough of a gd swing

👍🙏

[CockneyRebel]

The ITV twat of a commentator, getting frustrated because his team weren’t strolling away with it, comes out with “Scotland are the third lowest ranking team in the tournament…… what does that say for us?” The English media turn turn quickly their own.

And of course the Scottish media would never ever do that. Enjoy a good point but don't do glass house and stones eh.

[Hibs Class]

So, what do we need in order to qualify, other than win against Croatia? Czech Republic to beat England or is a draw enough?

If CR and England draw then both go through on 5 points as best us or Croatia can get is four. If that game has a winner then the loser will be on 4 points, the same as the winner of our game and then it’ll cone down to goal difference

[Moulin Yarns]

And Billy Gilmour should be an ever present in that midfield from now on

He was given MOTM

[cabbageandribs1875]

Scotlands issue is finding a goal


che adams to break his duck on tuesday








hopefully not a consolation goal :(

[hibsbollah]

Pwoud.
Quality performance.

[Northernhibee]

I think that after that it’s really important to remember that The Famous Hearts got pumped out of the Scottish by a village team.

[Moulin Yarns]

It was incredibly tense wasnt it. OK Im sure purists in Spain and France will be saying it was technicially inept but spirit endevour pace and committment is on another level. It was a great game as far as nail biting was concerned.Everything to play for for all four countries going into the last game. Great stuff.

Fair play Scotland.

I'm sure England have half decent players somewhere 😉

[Iain G]

Roy Keane doesn't know how to react to a very animated Graeme Souness who is really pushing how good Scotland were and didn't let England play

[Peevemor]

It was incredibly tense wasnt it. OK Im sure purists in Spain and France will be saying it was technicially inept but spirit endevour pace and committment is on another level. It was a great game as far as nail biting was concerned.Everything to play for for all four countries going into the last game. Great stuff.

Fair play Scotland.The French pundits were saying that despite England having technically superior players, there was no evidence tonight of the 40 place difference in the Fifa rankings, neither in terms of individual performances nor team tactics.

They were saying that England didn't necessarily have a bad game, but that Scotland got it right to stop them playing while maybe doing enough to steal it.

[MrSmith]

Pwoud.
Quality performance.

100% me too and I was the same against the Czechs as well 👍

[CockneyRebel]

We were the better team tonight.


Steady

[Lago]

Opinion Andy. I thought he was very good this evening.


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[Lancs Harp]

Bet a ticket for Hampden on Tuesday is gold dust :wink:

Hope you make it.

[Aldo]

Souness “footballs not coming home with that team”


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[Callum_62]

SteadyEvery pundit on itv says Scotland were the better team

They are right

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[Moulin Yarns]

Bet a ticket for Hampden on Tuesday is gold dust :wink:

Hope you make it.

👍

[Scorrie]

Roy Keane doesn't know how to react to a very animated Graeme Souness who is really pushing how good Scotland were and didn't let England play

Souness looks like he’d like to play tonight!

[BroxburnHibee]

If CR and England draw then both go through on 5 points as best us or Croatia can get is four. If that game has a winner then the loser will be on 4 points, the same as the winner of our game and then it’ll cone down to goal difference

Whatever happens we have to win to have any chance of going through. I think 4 points will see us through anyway.

[Pretty Boy]

Even if we go out we have at least shown we can compete at this level. That tonight wasn't just a backs to the wall, park the bus and pray performance.

We played some good stuff and didn't look at all out of place. OK a game where we now have to to and win against Croatia might be a bit different but after Monday it would have been easy to roll over and accept another 2-0 defeat as 'no bad'.

We are a couple or players in key positions away from being a really good side but there was and is plenty to like about this Scotland team. A shot in the arm just when it was needed and set up nicely for glorious failure on Tuesday......

[CmoantheHibs]

It was a night for maligned players to answer a few questions.

Hanley, McGregor, Dykes, McTominay as a CH - all were outstanding.

So impressed tonight, and delighted with Clarke for going with the team he did. There were tough and brave decisions to be made and he picked the team to get the result.
You forgot O’Donnell Played superbly tonight.

[Jim44]

And of course the Scottish media would never ever do that. Enjoy a good point but don't do glass house and stones eh.

I’m not talking about the Media. I’m talking about the match commentator, who joked with Ally McCoist all night, thinking his boys were going to win in the end, but realised we were better and suddenly changed his tune.

[Lago]

The French pundits were saying that despite England having technically superior players, there was no evidence tonight of the 40 place difference in the Fifa rankings, neither in terms of individual performances nor team tactics.

They were saying that England didn't necessarily have a bad game, but that Scotland got it right to stop them playing while maybe doing enough to steal it.
Nice to know 👌

[Lancs Harp]

Whatever happens we have to win to have any chance of going through. I think 4 points will see us through anyway.

4 points gets a team through.

[Hibee Mac]

That England team isn't nearly as good as they are made out to be. They have some great young talents and some others who are a bit over rated, not as good as the sum of their parts.

[ACLeith]

Bet a ticket for Hampden on Tuesday is gold dust :wink:

Hope you make it.

Cheers. At the end if the day we're all Hibees after all

[Moulin Yarns]

Souness looks like he’d like to play tonight!

Collins looks like he's fit enough too

[Jim44]

That England team isn't nearly as good as they are made out to be. They have some great young talents and some others who are a bit over rated, not as good as the sum of their parts.

You’re tootin’:agree: I don’t think they’ll feature in the later stages of the competition.

[GloryGlory]

Even if we go out we have at least shown we can compete at this level. That tonight wasn't just a backs to the wall, park the bus and pray performance.

We played some good stuff and didn't look at all out of place. OK a game where we now have to to and win against Croatia might be a bit different but after Monday it would have been easy to roll over and accept another 2-0 defeat as 'no bad'.

We are a couple or players in key positions away from being a really good side but there was and is plenty to like about this Scotland team. A shot in the arm just when it was needed and set up nicely for glorious failure on Tuesday......

Until we get a decent, regular goal scorer we will always be "nearly" there.

[Iain G]

That England team isn't nearly as good as they are made out to be. They have some great young talents and some others who are a bit over rated, not as good as the sum of their parts.

Southgate doesn't seem to get the best out of what he has. Souness was very critical of Rice and Phillips in there while saying we had good footballers in midfield. Southgate is too conservative and risk averse.

[Onion]

The ITV twat of a commentator, getting frustrated because his team weren’t strolling away with it, comes out with “Scotland are the third lowest ranking team in the tournament…… what does that say for us?” The English media turn turn quickly their own.

As usual, media and particularly those that know F all about football have built this England team up to be world beaters in their own minds. Tonight showed (yet again) they are a very average side with a couple of great players - when they can be arsed.

England - not as good as they think. Scotland - better than others think. Well done all the boys.

[Lancs Harp]

Even if we go out we have at least shown we can compete at this level. That tonight wasn't just a backs to the wall, park the bus and pray performance.

We played some good stuff and didn't look at all out of place. OK a game where we now have to to and win against Croatia might be a bit different but after Monday it would have been easy to roll over and accept another 2-0 defeat as 'no bad'.

We are a couple or players in key positions away from being a really good side but there was and is plenty to like about this Scotland team. A shot in the arm just when it was needed and set up nicely for glorious failure on Tuesday......

PB come on man!! Need to grow from that performance, a brilliant chance to qualify against a decent team who cleary arent what they used to be and are certainly no better than England who Scotland have just put a great performance in against. England havent beome crap overnight, we have a good team and tonight we couldnt play at all against a vibrant Scotland team. Great draw recently against Holland and a great performance and result against England, these teams arent crap teams, they are amongst the best in Europe and Scotland have been right up there competing against them.

[Onion]

You’re tootin’:agree: I don’t think they’ll feature in the later stages of the competition.

:agree: Not a patch on may previous England failures of the past. No idea why they think they are so good,

[CloudSquall]

And of course the Scottish media would never ever do that. Enjoy a good point but don't do glass house and stones eh.

Alright Ian calm down :greengrin

[CraigHibee]

That England team isn't nearly as good as they are made out to be. They have some great young talents and some others who are a bit over rated, not as good as the sum of their parts.

They are winners in their own minds, definitely far too much hype with the England team and a very deserved point tonight for us

[Lancs Harp]

That England team isn't nearly as good as they are made out to be. They have some great young talents and some others who are a bit over rated, not as good as the sum of their parts.

But dont devalue Scotlands performance. England are more than a decent team and Scotland more than matched them tonight

[Moulin Yarns]

That England team isn't nearly as good as they are made out to be. They have some great young talents and some others who are a bit over rated, not as good as the sum of their parts.

Grealish? I didn't see what the hype was about to be honest.

[hibsbollah]

And of course the Scottish media would never ever do that. Enjoy a good point but don't do glass house and stones eh.

Channel Five are showing Braveheart currently. Are you the ugly face licking English boy in the village at the start?

[Iain G]

But dont devalue Scotlands performance. England are more than a decent team and Scotland more than matched them tonight

We held our shape well and closed their space down but we also kept the ball better than I have ever seen Scotland too and had the confidence to hold onto it and pass it and take our time.

Was a very mature performance.

[Sir David Gray]

Is there a way for England to go out??

I don't think they're officially through as they could still finish 3rd which doesn't guarantee progression but 4 points would almost certainly be enough.

[SJNB Hibby]

Whatever happens we have to win to have any chance of going through. I think 4 points will see us through anyway.

If weère tied with the Czechs---we lose the tiebreaker---if were tied with Ingerlund, it will go to goal difference

[neil7908]

Southgate doesn't seem to get the best out of what he has. Souness was very critical of Rice and Phillips in there while saying we had good footballers in midfield. Southgate is too conservative and risk averse.

Yup. Let's be honest, we are one of the weakest teams in the tournament. The Czechs put 2 past us but a team with a strike force (Kane, Sancho, Rashford, Sterling) worth north of £300m had their best chance from a corner.

England played so defensively today I couldn't believe it.

[cabbageandribs1875]

well i'm going to be the first


i'd like to congratulate england on their point tonight...they fought bravely









:)

[neil7908]

Grealish? I didn't see what the hype was about to be honest.

He's a good player but I thought it was very weird the clamour to have him on when Sancho is a far better player.

[hibsbollah]

If weère tied with the Czechs---we lose the tiebreaker---if were tied with Ingerlund, it will go to goal difference

But 4 points will almost certainly be enough to get through as one of the four best 3rd place teams.

[CloudSquall]

If weère tied with the Czechs---we lose the tiebreaker---if were tied with Ingerlund, it will go to goal difference

Likely to have been asked 100 times but will 4 points be enough to take us through as one of the best 3rd placed teams?

[Hibee Mac]

But dont devalue Scotlands performance. England are more than a decent team and Scotland more than matched them tonightAbsolutely not, was a great performance. You're right they should be beating us with the size of country they are, my point is they are made out to be a genuine tournament favourite when I think they are far from it.

[Hiber-nation]

O'donnell was immense tonight, a few apologies should be going his way after the ott abuse he got last game.

See my last post praising him.

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/202396912_346667463544292_1240502604671932365_n.jp g?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=pimHhdrYgq0AX__EuHq&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=1490b22dd05bf7dc187a9a1d84fa679c&oe=60D1A72B

[Hibrandenburg]

Scotlands issue is finding a goal

:agree: I don't know where they're going to come from.

[Lancs Harp]

well i'm going to be the first


i'd like to congratulate england on their point tonight...they fought bravely









:)

Proud to take a point against the 1978 World Cup Winners :greengrin:wink:

[hibsbollah]

Likely to have been asked 100 times but will 4 points be enough to take us through as one of the best 3rd placed teams?

See above :greengrin

The last tournament that had this format suggested that 3 points and a zero goal difference should be enough. It’s highly unlikely there’d be 4 other groups where the 3rd place team gets more than 3 points.

[OtleyHibs]

Bet a ticket for Hampden on Tuesday is gold dust :wink:

Hope you make it.

I just want to say that some of your posts in the lead up this game have really made me smile and chuckle, the conversation between you and some fellow posters have shown rivalry in a good light 😁

Not sure if this makes sense but I've had a few and I know what I'm trying to say 🤣

[CockneyRebel]

Channel Five are showing Braveheart currently. Are you the ugly face licking English boy in the village at the start?

No I was the one who said "Braveheart is/was the biggest piece of Hollywood fiction in cinema history" that was me :greengrin

[Peevemor]

I just want to say that some of your posts in the lead up this game have really made me smile and chuckle, the conversation between you and some fellow posters have shown rivalry in a good light [emoji16]

Not sure if this makes sense but I've had a few and I know what I'm trying to say [emoji1787]I agree. Great craic! [emoji106]

[Sir David Gray]

Likely to have been asked 100 times but will 4 points be enough to take us through as one of the best 3rd placed teams?

Not absolutely guaranteed but it almost certainly will be.

[ancient hibee]

Shock horror Clarke knows more about picking a team than me.

If only he could get them to calm down in front of goals we would win more.He should sit Dykes and Adams down and show them Nisbet's goal against Holland. Stay calm,get your body right and put the ball in the net. Don't just blaze away.Despite England having better players I thought we were the far better well drilled team. For a boy who had been injured Tierney was outstanding.

[Since452]

Good point but the celebrations are way OTT for me

[Iain G]

Shock horror Clarke knows more about picking a team than me.

If only he could get them to calm down in front of goals we would win more.He should sit Dykes and Adams down and show them Nisbet's goal against Holland. Stay calm,get your body right and put the ball in the net. Don't just blaze away.Despite England having better players I thought we were the far better well drilled team. For a boy who had been injured Tierney was outstanding.

Or just play Naismith?

[ancient hibee]

Or just play Naismith?

Or even Nisbet??

[Lancs Harp]

I just want to say that some of your posts in the lead up this game have really made me smile and chuckle, the conversation between you and some fellow posters have shown rivalry in a good light 😁

Not sure if this makes sense but I've had a few and I know what I'm trying to say 🤣

Thanks mate :wink:

Im a Hibs fan at the end of the day posting on a Hibs message board I just happen to be English so I quite naturally support England Internationally. We're a MASSIVE world wide club now :greengrin

Im probably not the person to beat up about the England Scotland rivalry I think its got amazing history and is still a major sporting event, I mean how tense was that tonight? It was amazing! But Im an English lad who has had work and other connections to Edinburgh and hence I support Hibs. Youve heard all the talk about the Scottish league pub league chat, its a battle I and other Hibs fans down here, whether English, Scottish exile or whatever fight on an almost daily basis so maybe unusually so, Im English but obviously take a keen interest in Scottish football. Once got called an honory Scot but maybe thats going too far :greengrin

[Hiber-nation]

Good point but the celebrations are way OTT for me

Celebrations were fantastic to see. Just shows how together this squad is. We've got to keep positive.

[hibsbollah]

No I was the one who said "Braveheart is/was the biggest piece of Hollywood fiction in cinema history" that was me :greengrin

‘You remind me of my daughter’

[Northernhibee]

Tierney is one of the best left sided defenders in the world, no team he’d be out of his depth at.

[HH81]

Scotland were excellent. Watched it with England fans and got texts off England fans before the game saying 4-0 etc.

Think a lot of phones are now switched off.

[Iain G]

Or even Nisbet??

Sorry that was the Clynelish typing... 🤣

[BroxburnHibee]

Tierney is one of the best left sided defenders in the world, no team he’d be out of his depth at.

Agreed. Deserves a better team than Arsenal.

[PatHead]

Proud to take a point against the 1978 World Cup Winners :greengrin:wink:

Was that the year that England,the greatest team in history to not qualify for the finals, should have won it? Or was that 1974?😂

[OtleyHibs]

Thanks mate :wink:

Im a Hibs fan at the end of the day posting on a Hibs message board I just happen to be English so I quite naturally support England Internationally. We're a MASSIVE world wide club now :greengrin

Im probably not the person to beat up about the England Scotland rivalry I think its got amazing history and is still a major sporting event, I mean how tense was that tonight? It was amazing! But Im an English lad who has had work and other connections to Edinburgh and hence I support Hibs. Youve heard all the talk about the Scottish league pub league chat, its a battle I and other Hibs fans down here, whether English, Scottish exile or whatever fight on an almost daily basis so maybe unusually so, Im English but obviously take a keen interest in Scottish football. Once got called an honory Scot but maybe thats going too far :greengrin

I'm in West Yorkshire so I know exactly what you mean about standing up for Scottish football down here, work won't be so bad next week 😁

My Leeds born son was supporting us tonight so with his mum's family around so I felt like I'd won before a ball was kicked 😅

[Lancs Harp]

Was that the year that England,the greatest team to not qualify for the finals, should have won it? Or was that 1974?😂

1970, 1982, 1986, 1990 were our other should have won its.

Ireland of course won it in 1994.:wink:

[Hibrandenburg]

The French pundits were saying that despite England having technically superior players, there was no evidence tonight of the 40 place difference in the Fifa rankings, neither in terms of individual performances nor team tactics.

They were saying that England didn't necessarily have a bad game, but that Scotland got it right to stop them playing while maybe doing enough to steal it.

The German pundits were saying similar.

[cabbageandribs1875]

hope wee Modric has a niggly injury for tuesday :greengrin

[Lancs Harp]

hope wee Modric has a niggly injury for tuesday :greengrin

He's slowing up but is clearly gifted, he simply hasnt got the players around him now to be effective. You give him space he can still pick a team apart.

Croatia's issue like Scotlands is finding a goal. Perisic still dangerous.

[Pretty Boy]

Tierney is one of the best left sided defenders in the world, no team he’d be out of his depth at.

Yep.

A few people had written him off because of his injury issues and because of the usual suspicions that a good young player at one of the Glasgow 2 is overhyped.

He is outstanding though. Not only a great player but his attitude is second to none as well. I was always confident he would do well down south and £25M looks like a bargain for Arsenal in a footballing context. They will sell him for more far than that as and when he moves on.

[Future17]

Yep.

A few people had written him off because of his injury issues and because of the usual suspicions that a good young player at one of the Glasgow 2 is overhyped.

He is outstanding though. Not only a great player but his attitude is second to none as well.

He's a phenomenal player, but you can't simply disregard his injury issues. He's not available for selection often enough for club or country.

[plhibs]

Grealish? I didn't see what the hype was about to be honest.

I agree about him, he is a good player but tries to keep the ball until somebody tackles him and he goes down looking for a foul all the time. Can't remember who it was that was chasing him around the middle of the park near the end and then just to decided i've had enough of you heres' your free kick.

[PatHead]

1970, 1982, 1986, 1990 were our other should have won its.

Ireland of course won it in 1994.:wink:

Well at least you won it in 1966 with a two goal hat-trick from Geoff Hurst.

[Lancs Harp]

Well at least you won it in 1966 with a two goal hat-trick from Geoff Hurst.

Was three feet over the line that. :wink:

[PatHead]

Was three feet over the line that. :wink:

😂

[Hibby70]

So just need to beat Croatia 2-0 and England lose 1-0 (or more) and we finish second.

[Lancs Harp]

��
:greengrin
and dont forget prior to winning the world cup in 1978 Joe Jordan imitiating Michael Jordan got you there :greengrin

[PatHead]

:greengrin
and dont forget prior to winning the world cup in 1978 Joe Jordon imitiating Michael Jordan got you there :greengrin

Ball played man

[Lancs Harp]

So just need to beat Croatia 2-0 and England lose 1-0 (or more) and we finish second.

Exuberance gone too far.

[Mon Dieu4]

I thought every scotland player was magnificent tonight, we should talk our game up more, we are much better than people give us credit for, we aren't world beaters but we are a good team, take a bow each and every one of you

I was up town and was great to see how much that meant to people not old enough to have seen Scotland play in a tournament before

[Hibby70]

Exuberance gone too far.

It's not that much of a stretch though. England aren't as good as they think and we are slowly improving.

When's the final?

[Lancs Harp]

Ball played man

Played away in Liverpool Wales, infront of 10 Welsh fans and 55,000 Scots.

[kevinc]

che adams to break his duck on tuesday








hopefully not a consolation goal :(

He has already broken his duck, scored against the Faroes.

[Lancs Harp]

It's not that much of a stretch though. England aren't as good as they think and we are slowly improving.

When's the final?

If England are crap then tonights 0-0 wasnt anything special.

When in truth England are more than decent but Sotland competed played really well and did a number on one of Europes best teams. You need to big up Scotland instead of diluting England, you cant have it both ways.

[Hibrandenburg]

I thought every scotland player was magnificent tonight, we should talk our game up more, we are much better than people give us credit for, we aren't world beaters but we are a good team, take a bow each and every one of you

I was up town and was great to see how much that meant to people not old enough to have seen Scotland play in a tournament before

We've got the core of a good team but are still a few players short of being a good team. Glad the manager gave some of the new guys a chance tonight, he got the team and tactics spot on.

[lapsedhibee]

I agree about him, he is a good player but tries to keep the ball until somebody tackles him and he goes down looking for a foul all the time. Can't remember who it was that was chasing him around the middle of the park near the end and then just to decided i've had enough of you heres' your free kick.

O'Donnell, happy to take the booking for his "I've had enough of this" stance.

[pollution]

It's not that much of a stretch though. England aren't as good as they think and we are slowly improving.

When's the final?

England are a very average team.

Wait until they meet the likes of Italy or Belgium.

[Hibby70]

If England are crap then tonights 0-0 wasnt anything special.

When in truth England are more than decent but Sotland competed played really well and did a number on one of Europes best teams. You need to big up Scotland instead of diluting England, you cant have it both ways.

I never said they were crap. They are more than capable of losing 1-0 against Czechia though. We have some new found confidence and could possibly score 2 if we take our chances or get a bit of luck.

Pressure will be on England now.

[Lancs Harp]

I never said they were crap. They are more than capable of losing 1-0 against Czechia though. We have some new found confidence and could possibly score 2 if we take our chances or get a bit of luck.

Pressure will be on England now.

Only beacause of what will be seen in England as a poor performance against Scotland. As far as qualifying is concerned England have 4 points, Thats enough.

[ScottB]

It’s pleasing that even as the England squad fills up with players of genuine quality, they still aren’t going to win a damn thing.

Also for all the praise he gets, Southgate seems no different to a lot of recent England managers, picking the big names regardless of form. Kane wandering around half fit, how many more goals does Sancho need to score to get on the pitch, or is it just the move to United that needs to happen first?

Thought we did well, though the constant aerial balls, either from Marshall or into the box was frustrating. Particularly in defence, England had a size advantage, I think they’d have been much more vulnerable running at them, and taking more shots at an at times suspect keeper could well have got us a win.

Can’t complain though, just a shame this team weren’t there on Monday. Let’s hope for a similar performance next week.

[hibbie02]

My half English Daughter watched the game in a Hibs strip and an England wristband (I missed). She was very happy and still loves SJM!

[Smartie]

I think England are a decent side and it took a great Scottish performance to keep them at bay.

Portugal won the last tournament after drawing all their group games last time. No team plays at the peak of their powers for 90 minutes every game and that was a tough game for England tonight on several levels. They didn’t lose and the point there might actually end up being invaluable.

It was also the type of performance that shows up weakness and gives them stuff to work on. In the past they’ve played well early on in tournaments and lost out the first time they’ve played anyone of substance.

Whilst they didn’t score tonight, I still think they’re a very dangerous side going forward and they have bags of quality. I had the fear every time they came forward and think it was a great result for Scotland to get the point.

[Hibby70]

My favourite bit was when Freakish passed to the substitute.

Haha predictive text. I'm leaving it.

[Stairway 2 7]

Is sjm ours or the nations?

[Mon Dieu4]

Is sjm ours or the nations?

Ours, always ours, I turn into a jilted lover when anyone else tries to claim him.

[jacomo]

I think England are a decent side and it took a great Scottish performance to keep them at bay.

Portugal won the last tournament after drawing all their group games last time. No team plays at the peak of their powers for 90 minutes every game and that was a tough game for England tonight on several levels. They didn’t lose and the point there might actually end up being invaluable.

It was also the type of performance that shows up weakness and gives them stuff to work on. In the past they’ve played well early on in tournaments and lost out the first time they’ve played anyone of substance.

Whilst they didn’t score tonight, I still think they’re a very dangerous side going forward and they have bags of quality. I had the fear every time they came forward and think it was a great result for Scotland to get the point.


Agree with all this.

England are proper contenders for this tournament and Scotland did well tonight.

[Hibrandenburg]

Just watching the highlights. There's some dodgy haircuts in that England team.

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/201503567_2988938184679501_8384959920131596306_n.j pg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=U1bszByzLFoAX_5sm_q&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=db67cc23c89dc3f3febc76437d36c711&oe=60D15CB3

[660]

What a performance. With a break of the ball we’d have had the *****. How many were they going to score against us? 4? 5? Second favourites is it? Right back in yer box engerland

[cabbageandribs1875]

Rio Ferdinand "i've never been so confident of a win in the championships"



ho ho fudly

[northstandhibby]

Rio Ferdinand "i've never been so confident of a win in the championships"



ho ho fudly

this is like echo echo chamber. How many times have you posted on this thread with the same type of anti english rhetoric? Far too too many. Imo.

[Callum_62]

this is like echo echo chamber. How many times have you posted on this thread with the same type of anti english rhetoric? Far too too many. Imo.How is laughing at Rio Ferdinand getting it so wrong after being so smug anti English?

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[Bristolhibby]

Grealish? I didn't see what the hype was about to be honest.

He draws a good foul.

J

[660]

this is like echo echo chamber. How many times have you posted on this thread with the same type of anti english rhetoric? Far too too many. Imo.

Taking it well I see

[Bristolhibby]

this is like echo echo chamber. How many times have you posted on this thread with the same type of anti english rhetoric? Far too too many. Imo.

Quite frankly that fud needed it rammed right up him.

I watched it in disbelief at his arrogance. Notes to go to my recordings if anything other than a England win happend.

Sure enough I screen recorded his whole mumbling.

We are allowed to be way over the top anti English tonight.

Try living down here and your whole social circle being English!

J

[SaulGoodman]

this is like echo echo chamber. How many times have you posted on this thread with the same type of anti english rhetoric? Far too too many. Imo.

Wheeeeey yous are *****

[Bristolhibby]

Just watching the highlights. There's some dodgy haircuts in that England team.

Kelvin Phillips wins hands down.

Those cornrow bunches man!

WTF?

J

[Callum_62]

https://twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/1406008300844507138?s=19

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[Callum_62]

https://twitter.com/gavmacn/status/1406010696186335233?s=19

He's been saying that for days

Get it right up ye Rio.

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[calumhibee1]

He's a phenomenal player, but you can't simply disregard his injury issues. He's not available for selection often enough for club or country.

:agree:

I don’t think his ability has ever been in question really.

He’s missed a huge amount of games in his career so far though. Just being really good doesn’t change that.

Unless he gets over those issues I don’t see him getting a bigger move. Whilst he’s good, I don’t see him as being that good that the real big teams will be willing to accept the fact he averages 23 league games out of 38 each season.

[SteveHFC]

https://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/uploads/monthly_2021_06/unknown.png.5513dc149500fc27aad503f3304fbb4c.png

[pedroorange1875]

oh god

[Orchard_Hibs]

Thought we played excellent, tactics spot on. We do however lack a real quality striker. Add a £40-50mil forward and play like that and we will win more games than we lose, unfortunately they don’t grow on trees.

[calumhibee1]

Thought we played excellent, tactics spot on. We do however lack a real quality striker. Add a £40-50mil forward and play like that and we will win more games than we lose, unfortunately they don’t grow on trees.

:agree:

I was very surprised by how well we played.

Better team on the night and adds to the frustration on Monday. If we’d won that we’d be as good as through.

Winnable game v Croatia though imo.

[ACLeith]

Southgate always comes across as a decent person but I've never been convinced about him as a manager. He really should be getting more from what is a talented group of players.

Having watched the game again in a relaxed frame of mind, Steve Clark completely outthought him and neither he nor his backroom team seemed to know how to change things.

Will be a different game on Tuesday. We won't be able to play the same counter attacking style, have we the strength and ability to take the game to Croatia? ALL we asked for last night was to have a chance still on Tuesday and boy how our team delivered that.

But why do I keep thinking that with moments to go we'll be qualifying until either England or the Czechs do something to put us out? But that's my last negative thought for 4 days!

[Orchard_Hibs]

:agree:

I was very surprised by how well we played.

Better team on the night and adds to the frustration on Monday. If we’d won that we’d be as good as through.

Winnable game v Croatia though imo.

I was disappointed we didn’t win last night, but this morning I’m more than happy with the point. I do however remember 98 when all we had to do was beat Morocco, which at the time didn’t seam all that hard a task.

Or worse in 96 when all we needed was a second goal against the Swiss (which we would have had if goal line tech was around back then)

[hibsbollah]

I’m still proud at the performance, but in the cold light of day 1 point is a disappointing return. We need to find a way to start taking the chances that are been created (usually from the flanks). Saying that, a tight disciplined structure is probably still the best way to get a result against Croatia, so I don’t think changing tactics is on the cards, just keep playing the way we have been and hope for some luck in front of goal for once. Maybe introduce Kevin on 60 instead of 80 minutes if we need a goal.

[scm70nyd1973]

We've got the core of a good team but are still a few players short of being a good team. Glad the manager gave some of the new guys a chance tonight, he got the team and tactics spot on.

Aye you’re spot on - but yon guy (Jambo f*d on the radio)who thought that Anti Niemi (sp?) was Scottish will be on soon telling Clarke to get his cheque book out and get signing a few new players 😂

[ronaldo7]

Tactics were spot on. Phillips was their main driver in the first game, never got a touch, and we kept Sterling quiet, apart from his wee mazy near the end. Every Scot gave their all last night, and we've found a wee diamond in Gilmour.

Onwards to Tuesday, let's build on this, and give it a go.

[Dalianwanda]

It was a great feeling to have a real connection with a Scotland team again. I’d kinda lost it. Not sure if it’s because we stopped getting the chance to play proper big games or what. Last night for the 2nd half i couldn’t sit down, pacing about and kicking every ball with them. Great performance that just needed a goal. Can’t remember enjoying a 0-0 so much before.

[blackpoolhibs]

Great performance from the boys, we have the nucleus of a very decent side, solid at the back and a very good midfield. Could do with another forward coming through from somewhere, but we have something to build on here for the future.

I have to say though again, what a player Tierney is, he's up there with the best in the world in his position, and he is that good in two positions.:top marks

John McGinn was back to his very best too last night, after a howler on Monday. :top marks

Billy Gilmour looks another who has it all, although it is still early days with him he does look a very good player.:thumbsup:

We might be going home after the Croatia game, but the future is looking much brighter for us now. :thumbsup:

[Hibee Mac]

Am I missing something about how many points we need? People keep saying that point keeps us in it but to me it makes little difference (other than the mental boost from a brilliant result).

Even if we lost today we can still probably make it through in 3rd with 3 points, it was always going to come down to the Croatia game after they drew with the Czechs today. Is it just because we now still have a very slim chance of coming 2nd?

[degenerated]

Am I missing something about how many points we need? People keep saying that point keeps us in it but to me it makes little difference (other than the mental boost from a brilliant result).

Even if we lost today we can still probably make it through in 3rd with 3 points, it was always going to come down to the Croatia game after they drew with the Czechs today. Is it just because we now still have a very slim chance of coming 2nd?With 3 points we would perhaps need a pretty decent goal difference, and it's unlikely for us even to have a positive one. Having 4 points pretty much takes that out the equation.

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[JimBHibees]

hope wee Modric has a niggly injury for tuesday :greengrin

Watched the Croatia game before ours and thought it was one of the quietest games he will have. They will be hard to beat no doubt but definitely got a chance.

[JimBHibees]

this is like echo echo chamber. How many times have you posted on this thread with the same type of anti english rhetoric? Far too too many. Imo.

:faf:

Absolutely deserved Ferdinand is getting ripped after his clearly anti Scottish rhetoric :greengrin

[HibbyDave]

Solid display.

Not enough though as England and Czech Rep will “fix a boring 0-0 draw” so that they each have 5pts and go thorough.

[hibsbollah]

this is like echo echo chamber. How many times have you posted on this thread with the same type of anti english rhetoric? Far too too many. Imo.

Outrage after ‘Anti English rhetoric’ clearly visible on Scottish teams football fans message board during Scotland England game.

I’m quite frankly shocked.

[theonlywayisup]

Solid display.

Not enough though as England and Czech Rep will “fix a boring 0-0 draw” so that they each have 5pts and go thorough.

You do know that four of the best third place teams also qualify. Four points should be enough.

[HibbyDave]

You do know that four of the best third place teams also qualify. Four points should be enough.

Yes. Not sure of the criteria used to select which teams with four points will qualify. Only the best three third places go through.

[Moulin Yarns]

Just watching the highlights. There's some dodgy haircuts in that England team.

I mentioned Phillips hair during the game, from a distance he looked like a 6 years old girl with pigtails 🤣

[Gordy M]

Yes. Not sure of the criteria used to select which teams with four points will qualify. Only the best three third places go through.

Im sure its the best 4 third placed teams. 6 groups, top 2 through is 12 teams plus 4 best third placed makes 16

[Moulin Yarns]

Na mate, you're right, i've never taken it well being ****ed over for being a proud Hibee by these Lothian Region Hearts Guntz. A bunch of complete and utter weltz. My life was truly ruined by these swine. Nae worries though. Shrug the shoulders and move on eh. Aye.

Something I've noticed about this poster, the time of night! Either a good amount of beverage has been involved or they are under the duvet so their mum doesn't see the light from their phone 🙄

[hibsbollah]

Yes. Not sure of the criteria used to select which teams with four points will qualify. Only the best three third places go through.

No, it’s the best 4. And because head to head won’t be a factor, goal difference is the tiebreaker if the 3rd place teams are on the same points.

[Colr]

I’m still proud at the performance, but in the cold light of day 1 point is a disappointing return. We need to find a way to start taking the chances that are been created (usually from the flanks). Saying that, a tight disciplined structure is probably still the best way to get a result against Croatia, so I don’t think changing tactics is on the cards, just keep playing the way we have been and hope for some luck in front of goal for once. Maybe introduce Kevin on 60 instead of 80 minutes if we need a goal.

It was a good performance and England were lucky to get a draw. Agreed we lack firepower up front to make that step up. I’d like to see Nisbet get more of a run out and also some other strikers get a try out.

[JimBHibees]

Yes. Not sure of the criteria used to select which teams with four points will qualify. Only the best three third places go through.

4 out of the 6 groups third places go through will be almost certain 4 points will be enough for us to qualify.

[theonlywayisup]

Yes. Not sure of the criteria used to select which teams with four points will qualify. Only the best three third places go through.

No, it's four best third place finishers. Six group winners, six runner-ups, plus four best third place teams giving us a last sixteen.

In Group B, should Belgium beat Finland then the latter will only be on three points. In the other game, it's Denmark (0) against Russia (3), so only one of those teams can qualify. If Belgium and Denmark win, then even the 2nd place team qualifies on 3 points.

In Group A, only a Swiss win (against Turkey) will put the third place team on four points.

In Group C, as long as there is a winner in the Austria v Ukraine game, then the third place team will only have three points.

In Group F, if France and Portugal both win against Hungary and Germany respectively, then the third place team can't get four points.

In Group E, it's still too early to call but wins for Spain against Poland and Slovakia means the third place team can't get four points.

Four points will be enough, but obviously not 100% confirmed yet.

[Col2]

No, it's four best third place finishers. Six group winners, six runner-ups, plus four best third place teams giving us a last sixteen.

In Group B, should Belgium beat Finland then the latter will only be on three points. In the other game, it's Denmark (0) against Russia (3), so only one of those teams can qualify. If Belgium and Denmark win, then even the 2nd place team qualifies on 3 points.

In Group A, only a Swiss win (against Turkey) will put the third place team on four points.

In Group C, as long as there is a winner in the Austria v Ukraine game, then the third place team will only have three points.

In Group F, if France and Portugal both win against Hungary and Germany respectively, then the third place team can't get four points.

In Group E, it's still too early to call but wins for Spain against Poland and Slovakia means the third place team can't get four points.

Four points will be enough, but obviously not 100% confirmed yet.

Great summary. My only addition would be group a - the Swiss might fancy a win versus poor Turkey team but they start on -3 goal difference and we start on -2. Assuming in the scenarios we win by one goal we would move to -1 so the Swiss need to win by at least 2 maybe 3 depending on goals scored.