Prince Phillip

[allmodcons]

Nationalise their assets and open them up for everyone to see. That would be a far bigger attraction for tourist.

Monarchies are a joke.

:agree:

[Peevemor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZvjUXgwJP4&ab_channel=AntifaHibsTotally irrelevant.

[McD]

If he hadn't got together with his 13 year old cousin, we would never have heard of the old bigot, good riddance.


they met when she was 13. Not ‘got together’

[tamig]

Apparently since they wrote "everyone at Hibernian", and if we the fans aren't included in that sentiment then they can bear that in mind the next time they make an "inclusive" video that flogs season tickets for £400.

Just catching up on this wonderful thread. Some cracking posts but this one is right near the top of the chart. Made me chuckle. The outrage from some folk in response to the club’s tweet is quite astounding.

[lord bunberry]

I’m on the side of we shouldn’t have tweeted that today. Everything the royal family stands for is the polar opposite of what hibs came from and should aspire to be.

[heretoday]

The Duke was no more racist than yer auld grandad who went through the war etc etc. Probably less in fact.

[lapsedhibee]

Many important points been touched on in this thread, but not the most important of all: Is Still Game at 10pm cancelled or not? :dunno:

[tamig]

Unfortunately we have no one left at the club who understands Hibs and their fans, all moved on
Had a quick look at the Twitter feedback, and there are a lot of good Hibs supports that I know, not very happy

Ron if you’re looking in, this and the David Tanner saga on Hibs pass, hasn’t gone down well with our support, get it sorted

Twitter is a barometer of bampottery. Nothing else.

[Keith_M]

Many important points been touched on in this thread, but not the most important of all: Is Still Game at 10pm cancelled or not? :dunno:


Every single BBC channel has been hijacked for the Phil The Greek tribute (strangely enough, even BBC Alba).

[hibsbollah]

I dont believe he was a racist although he did make some racist comments. To be honest it would be hard to find many 99yo that hadnt done so. Even though I am half his age I said things in the past that embarrass me now.

I think this is fair comment. My grandad said what would now be considered deeply offensive racist things on a regular basis. We really are a product of the times we live in. I don’t think there’s any validity in trying to pretend Philip making fun of a shanty eyed Chinaman is comparable to someone born in the1980s doing the same. It doesn’t make it ok but the world changes.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Which other Scottish clubs have tweeted about this?

[H113EE5]

Hibs once again showing more class than some posters on here.
:top marks:top marks:top marks:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[CapitalGreen]

Which other Scottish clubs have tweeted about this?

Rangers are the only other Premiership team to do so.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Rangers are the only other Premiership team to do so.

Strange days when Hibs send condolences upon the death of a royal but staunch, establishment Hearts don't. Nothing from Celtic then? :greengrin

[Baldy Foghorn]

Strange days when Hibs send condolences upon the death of a royal but staunch, establishment Hearts don't. Nothing from Celtic then? :greengrin

Hertz did too

[Hibernia&Alba]

Hertz did too

Ah okay. All is well in the world :greengrin

[hibsbollah]

No mention on tonight’s Gogglebox. No ‘in the week that we lost the DoE’...

Shameful C4. Hang your heads. If Hibs can do it...

[CapitalGreen]

Strange days when Hibs send condolences upon the death of a royal but staunch, establishment Hearts don't. Nothing from Celtic then? :greengrin

Hearts did but they are not in the Premiership.

The full list of SPFL teams who sent condolences is:

Rangers
Hibs
Hearts
Airdrie

[The Pointer]

he was a funny man, quite similar thoughts on world population as the Buffoon Prime ministers Father has

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/171744149_1596114607444328_4143083422328391184_n.j pg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=Xm_W6jIVjDwAX9CiN1z&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=53ea7effa97497d4903031d51997ce4a&oe=60965013


It's the biggest threat to the planet but some people don't want to admit it. 1 billion children in Africa by 2055 so who's going to feed them? The Blessed Bob?

[Hibernia&Alba]

Hearts did but they are not in the Premiership.

The full list of SPFL teams who sent condolences is:

Rangers
Hibs
Hearts
Airdrie

What fine company we are in, amongst the staunchest of the staunch. Airdrie and The Rangers FFS

[Bishop Hibee]

It's the biggest threat to the planet but some people don't want to admit it. 1 billion children in Africa by 2055 so who's going to feed them? The Blessed Bob?

No it isn’t but that’s another debate.

[CapitalGreen]

What fine company we are in, amongst the staunchest of the staunch. Airdrie and The Rangers FFS

I’m sure Liz will see our message of condolence next time she logs onto twitter.com, that’s the main thing.

[hibsbollah]

Hearts did but they are not in the Premiership.

The full list of SPFL teams who sent condolences is:

Rangers
Hibs
Hearts
Airdrie

:faf:
This gets better.

[stantonhibby]

No mention on tonight’s Gogglebox. No ‘in the week that we lost the DoE’...

Shameful C4. Hang your heads. If Hibs can do it...

It was mentioned at the start

[Peevemor]

What fine company we are in, amongst the staunchest of the staunch. Airdrie and The Rangers FFSWhat does it matter?

[DaveF]

Hearts did but they are not in the Premiership.

The full list of SPFL teams who sent condolences is:

Rangers
Hibs
Hearts
Airdrie

Whoever sent that tweet should be sacked, simply for putting the club in the company of those dreadful entities.

[Hibernia&Alba]

What does it matter?

In the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter of all. Somewhat ironic, though, that the only clubs to make a public statement are Rangers, Hearts, Airdrie and...erm....Hibs. Spot the odd one out :greengrin

They owe us an invite to their next sash bash.

[Peevemor]

Whoever sent that tweet should be sacked, simply for putting the club in the company of those dreadful entities.Unless it was Ron who wanted the tweet sent.

[hibsbollah]

It was mentioned at the start

Thanks for taking a dump all over my narrative, Stanton :grr:

[DaveF]

Unless it was Ron who wanted the tweet sent.

I wasn't being serious. The smiley didn't appear.

It is incredibly crap company though 😁

[stantonhibby]

Thanks for taking a dump all over my narrative, Stanton :grr:

Apols😀

[Peevemor]

I wasn't being serious. The smiley didn't appear.

It is incredibly crap company though [emoji16]I know, but I honestly think that Ron might be behind the tweet.

[CapitalGreen]

Unless it was Ron who wanted the tweet sent.

I doubt Ron was directing the Hibs twitter admin to send condolence tweets at 7.30am in the US.

[Peevemor]

I doubt Ron was directing the Hibs twitter admin to send condolence tweets at 7.30am in the US.Plenty people are at their desk at 7:30am. It's the Brits who are late starters.

[hibsbollah]

Apols😀

Who’s your favourite? You can’t beat Jenny and Lee in my opinion.

[CapitalGreen]

Plenty people are at their desk at 7:30am. It's the Brits who are late starters.

I didn’t say I doubted he’d be at his desk...

[HibeeHibernian4]

Rangers are the only other Premiership team to do so.
Quite an embarrassing state of affairs for Hibs that it’s only us (with awful, patently English "banter lad" of a social media account manager) and the most vile institution in British football who’ve paid their lickspittle respects. Wonder when the penny will drop for the "everything Hibs do is unquestionably great and beyond reproach" lot?

[hibsbollah]

Plenty people are at their desk at 7:30am. It's the Brits who are late starters.

Casual xenophobia, n’est ce pas? :greengrin

[Peevemor]

Quite an embarrassing state of affairs for Hibs that it’s only us (with our *****, patently English "banter lad" of a social media account manager) and the most vile institution in British football who’ve paid their lickspittle respects. Wonder when the penny will drop for the "everything Hibs do is unquestionably great and beyond reproach" lot?Embarrassing? Nah.

[HibeeHibernian4]

Embarrassing? Nah.

Here you come again to leap in front of any criticism aimed at the club in any way, shape or form. Getting quite tediously predictable now!

[Nakedmanoncrack]

they met when she was 13. Not ‘got together’

Wrong, they met well before this, unsurprisingly as close members of same family. At what age they went "all the way" is something I'd rather not think of, but it's highly unlikely they "waited".

[jacomo]

:top marks

When the queen eventually dies, that would be perfect moment to bring the monarchy to an end, in my humble opinion. It's a medieval anachronism, irrelevant to a twenty-first century democracy. It's long past time the British class system was dismantled. Progressive political parties should be arguing the case for abolition.


In principle I agree with you.

My fear is what you replace them with. If you had an elected president as Head of State, the UK would vote for Nigel Farage.

[Peevemor]

Here you come again to leap in front of any criticism aimed at the club in any way, shape or form. Getting quite tediously predictable now!To be honest, I really don't care what you think of me or my posting habits.

[stantonhibby]

Who’s your favourite? You can’t beat Jenny and Lee in my opinion.

The brother and sister from Leeds are quite funny😀

[hibsbollah]

The brother and sister from Leeds are quite funny😀

Agreed. Posh Giles and Mary too.

[GlesgaeHibby]

Who’s your favourite? You can’t beat Jenny and Lee in my opinion.

They're great. As are Giles and Mary, and Pete and Sophie

[The Harp Awakes]

Every single BBC channel has been hijacked for the Phil The Greek tribute (strangely enough, even BBC Alba).

Yes, the BBC is in a time warp. A dinosaur broadcaster which is more aligned with public opinion in the 1950s than the 2020s. Complete nonsense to hijack all their channels and akin to what you would expect from the North Korean state broadcaster.

An old guy has passed on and it will be a sad day for his family for sure. Just like it will have been for the families of the ~130,000 who have passed over the last year due to the pandemic.

I don't understand therefore, why the passing of one person should result in mass hysteria across the media. For similar reasons I am surprised that any Scottish football club (apart from the Rangers) felt the need to issue a statement today. Although I'm not particularly bothered that Hibs did, I find the content of the tweet bizarre; it would appear to have been written by a fanatical Royalist.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Yes, the BBC is in a time warp. A dinosaur broadcaster which is more aligned with public opinion in the 1950s than the 2020s. Complete nonsense to hijack all their channels and akin to what you would expect from the North Korean state broadcaster.

An old guy has passed on and it will be a sad day for his family for sure. Just like it will have been for the families of the ~130,000 who have passed over the last year due to the pandemic.

I don't understand therefore, why the passing of one person should result in mass hysteria across the media. For similar reasons I am surprised that any Scottish football club (apart from the Rangers) felt the need to issue a statement today. Although I'm not particularly bothered that Hibs did, I find the content of the tweet bizarre; it would appear to have been written by a fanatical Royalist.

Good post:aok:

[Hibernia&Alba]

Yes, the BBC is in a time warp. A dinosaur broadcaster which is more aligned with public opinion in the 1950s than the 2020s. Complete nonsense to hijack all their channels and akin to what you would expect from the North Korean state broadcaster.

An old guy has passed on and it will be a sad day for his family for sure. Just like it will have been for the families of the ~130,000 who have passed over the last year due to the pandemic.

I don't understand therefore, why the passing of one person should result in mass hysteria across the media. For similar reasons I am surprised that any Scottish football club (apart from the Rangers) felt the need to issue a statement today. Although I'm not particularly bothered that Hibs did, I find the content of the tweet bizarre; it would appear to have been written by a fanatical Royalist.

As the national broadcaster, the BBC is still the the place most people go to during moments of national importance, so I understand they have to fill the role expected of them. Yes it's stuffy and very middle England, but much of middle England thinks the Beeb is full of commies, which probably means they are striking the right balance. However, the monarchy just isn't as important as it once was, so their coverage does look OTT. I would prefer to end the deference completely and not be hung up about people whose only qualification is accident of birth.

[Peevemor]

As the national broadcaster, the BBC is still the the place most people go to during moments of national importance, so I understand they have to fill the role expected of them. Yes it's stuffy and very middle England, but much of middle England thinks the Beeb is full of commies, which probably means they are striking the right balance. However, the monarchy just isn't as important as it once was, so their coverage does look OTT. I would prefer to end the deference completely and not be hung up about people whose only qualification is accident of birth.I'm glad I'm not having to live with it. It's bad enough here in France.

[Moulin Yarns]

Can anyone help me out. My wife and I are sure campaigning was halted for an election in the past 40 years but can't think which one or why?

Lady Diana? Maggie T? Dunblane?

These are the ones we think might be it, would be good if someone can help.

[marinello59]

I'm glad I'm not having to live with it. It's bad enough here in France.

It’s no worse than the usual Friday night output from the Beeb. I’m just not watching something different from what I usually don’t watch.

[hibsbollah]

It’s no worse than the usual Friday night output from the Beeb. I’m just not watching something different from what I usually don’t watch.

Except the news presenters have been asked to slip into something black. Black, mind, not very very very very dark blue.

[Moulin Yarns]

Sent my sister in law a message saying 'thank goodness for netflix' she said why? 🤣

Footnote, she doesn't keep up with current affairs, but not realising that the telly was wall to wall coverage of the chook takes the biscuit.

[CropleyWasGod]

Except the news presenters have been asked to slip into something black. Black, mind, not very very very very dark blue.

Black lines matter

[CropleyWasGod]

Can anyone help me out. My wife and I are sure campaigning was halted for an election in the past 40 years but can't think which one or why?

Lady Diana? Maggie T? Dunblane?

These are the ones we think might be it, would be good if someone can help.

Jo Cox?

[Hibs90]

It's the biggest threat to the planet but some people don't want to admit it. 1 billion children in Africa by 2055 so who's going to feed them? The Blessed Bob?

Hello, you going to reply to my point or have you conveniently not seen it?

[hibsbollah]

Black lines matter

Kuennsberg appears to be rocking an all over black duvet.

[AugustaHibs]

Biggest benefit thieves known to man

[BroxburnHibee]

I know, but I honestly think that Ron might be behind the tweet. It was my first thought too.


Quite an embarrassing state of affairs for Hibs that it’s only us (with awful, patently English "banter lad" of a social media account manager) and the most vile institution in British football who’ve paid their lickspittle respects. Wonder when the penny will drop for the "everything Hibs do is unquestionably great and beyond reproach" lot?

Is this the new 'happy clappers?' :greengrin

I couldn't give a monkeys about the royal family but "embarassed" by what Hibs put out? Nah not me.

[The Baldmans Comb]

I switched over to the English TV stations to see what all the fuss was about and was quite gobsmacked to be honest.

It was actually quite funny to watch and I didn't even try to stifle the giggles.

English people are as weird as....😂

[gbhibby]

Yes, the BBC is in a time warp. A dinosaur broadcaster which is more aligned with public opinion in the 1950s than the 2020s. Complete nonsense to hijack all their channels and akin to what you would expect from the North Korean state broadcaster.

An old guy has passed on and it will be a sad day for his family for sure. Just like it will have been for the families of the ~130,000 who have passed over the last year due to the pandemic.

I don't understand therefore, why the passing of one person should result in mass hysteria across the media. For similar reasons I am surprised that any Scottish football club (apart from the Rangers) felt the need to issue a statement today. Although I'm not particularly bothered that Hibs did, I find the content of the tweet bizarre; it would appear to have been written by a fanatical Royalist.
When Royals die I believe there are protocols put in place so BBC ITV and probably Sky have had to follow those especially BBC.
I to am not bothered about the tweet from Hibs.

[hibsbollah]

Emma Vardy from Ulster has been the best. Trying to pretend there is a unified sense of loss across both communities :agree:

[HibeeHibernian4]

Emma Vardy from Ulster has been the best. Trying to pretend there is a unified sense of loss across both communities :agree:

The only unified sense of loss I've seen across Britain today is our collective minds.

[Pagan Hibernia]

I think the tweet, while certainly not offensive to me, was misjudged by Hibs. I’m sure they are probably in hindsight aware of that and if they could go back to this morning probably wouldn’t do it again.

as many have said, an institution that crystallises and symbolises a class system and inherited privilege will always be divisive. The man’s oft repeated racist remarks do not come across well at a time when the game is struggling so intensely to combat racism in all forms. Add to that Hibernian Football Club’s historically anti-Establishment leanings and I think it just wasn’t a good idea. No one else in the top league felt the need to do it outside of you know who and if there was to be one other club to join Rangers it shouldn’t have been us.

that said, its done. It’s really not a huge deal, and no one will care or probably even remember after a few weeks.

on to Ibrox on Sunday and 3rd place.

[Wilson]

I think the tweet, while certainly not offensive to me, was misjudged by Hibs. I’m sure they are probably in hindsight aware of that and if they could go back to this morning probably wouldn’t do it again.

as many have said, an institution that crystallises and symbolises a class system and inherited privilege will always be divisive. The man’s oft repeated racist remarks do not come across well at a time when the game is struggling so intensely to combat racism in all forms. Add to that Hibernian Football Club’s historically anti-Establishment leanings and I think it just wasn’t a good idea. No one else in the top league felt the need to do it outside of you know who and if there was to be one other club to join Rangers it shouldn’t have been us.

that said, its done. It’s really not a huge deal, and no one will care or probably even remember after a few weeks.

on to Ibrox on Sunday and 3rd place.

I disagree with the one other club outside Rangers nonsense. Like it or not this was the Duke of Edinburgh. We're THE club in the top flight connected to that.

If the Duke of Motherwell had passed then Motherwell FC would have been conspicuous with their lack of a tweet.

[heretoday]

:top marks

When the queen eventually dies, that would be perfect moment to bring the monarchy to an end, in my humble opinion. It's a medieval anachronism, irrelevant to a twenty-first century democracy. It's long past time the British class system was dismantled. Progressive political parties should be arguing the case for abolition.

That sounds very like "commie" talk to me.

[stu in nottingham]

The same if the Duke of Earl had passed.

I'd be furious if The Darts or even Gene Chandler, hadn't at least come out with a statement.

[Hibernia&Alba]

That sounds very like "commie" talk to me.


https://media.giphy.com/media/xSM46ernAUN3y/giphy.gif

[stoneyburn hibs]

Hopefully the queen goes mid summer
**** the perceived royalty.

[HibernianJK]

People saying ‘aye but he was the duke of Edinburgh’ as if he was born and bred on the streets of auld reekie itself. Laughable.

[Crunchie]

Hopefully the queen goes mid summer
**** the perceived royalty.
There's been a few tasteless posts on this thread but I think we have a winner.

[hibsbollah]

There's been a few tasteless posts on this thread but I think we have a winner.

I take it you don’t want to hear the Harry and Meghan joke then?

[McD]

Wrong, they met well before this, unsurprisingly as close members of same family. At what age they went "all the way" is something I'd rather not think of, but it's highly unlikely they "waited".


you’d rather not think about it, but you’re the only one who’s brought it up? Aye, no bother

[easty]

I disagree with the one other club outside Rangers nonsense. Like it or not this was the Duke of Edinburgh. We're THE club in the top flight connected to that.

If the Duke of Motherwell had passed then Motherwell FC would have been conspicuous with their lack of a tweet.

And when Linda Hamilton from Terminator dies, Brian Rice and Hamilton will be all over it...

[lapsedhibee]

And when Linda Hamilton from Terminator dies, Brian Rice and Hamilton will be all over it...

Not a word out of Dens when Muhammad Ali's old cornerman died. :grr: :panic:

[Nakedmanoncrack]

you’d rather not think about it, but you’re the only one who’s brought it up? Aye, no bother

Me bringing up the highly dubious relationship bothers you more, than it happening. No bother, your choice.

[blackpoolhibs]

Here you come again to leap in front of any criticism aimed at the club in any way, shape or form. Getting quite tediously predictable now!

The man died, our club felt it would be the decent thing to tweet their condolences.

It is the decent thing to do, whatever anyones views on the royal family.

[danhibees1875]

Me bringing up the highly dubious relationship bothers you more, than it happening. No bother, your choice.

I don't have a clue who any of my third cousins are (I assume by default everyone probably has a bunch of them?) but it doesn't seem too unsurprising that a more well renowned family would know of and have met one another as young adults.

[Crunchie]

The man died, our club felt it would be the decent thing to tweet their condolences.

It is the decent thing to do, whatever anyones views on the royal family.
:top marks And that's from someone who was brought up to turn off the tv before the Queen came on and they played God save the Queen :aok:

[Betty Boop]

There's been a few tasteless posts on this thread but I think we have a winner.
Aye from the same folk that get offended if you call Krankie Krankie..

[McD]

Me bringing up the highly dubious relationship bothers you more, than it happening. No bother, your choice.


I don’t even understand what you’re trying to say here.

it doesn’t bother me in the slightest, it clearly bothers you to the point you just had to post about it, then follow that by commenting that you’d rather not think about it - you were the only one who was not only thinking about it but felt the need to share those thoughts :rolleyes:


When you make public comment, you need to expect that someone else may comment back. On that note, I’m bowing out of this particular conversation

[greenlex]

Except the news presenters have been asked to slip into something black. Black, mind, not very very very very dark blue.
French navy acceptable? 24554

[McD]

The man died, our club felt it would be the decent thing to tweet their condolences.

It is the decent thing to do, whatever anyones views on the royal family.


:top marks excellent post


I’m no royalist, nor am I a republican, I have no issue with anyone, including Hibs, expressing condolences.

as you put it very well, it’s the decent thing to do. I would have no issue with anyone’s passing being treated similarly

[Mon Dieu4]

:top marks excellent post


I’m no royalist, nor am I a republican, I have no issue with anyone, including Hibs, expressing condolences.

as you put it very well, it’s the decent thing to do. I would have no issue with anyone’s passing being treated similarly

That's part of the issue, almost no one else's passing will be treated similarly, they are better than us and it's always good to get a reminder

[HibeeHibernian4]

The man died, our club felt it would be the decent thing to tweet their condolences.

It is the decent thing to do, whatever anyones views on the royal family.

Where do you end with that then?

There are plenty of good Hibs men and women who’ve passed on without condolences being tweeted out by the club, particularly not in such glowing terms. It’s a bad tweet with tone deaf phrasing that does not reflect the views of a large % of our support, can we just admit and move on?

[Moulin Yarns]

Bbc, itv and channel 4 coverage was like I imagine it would be in North Korea. Same stuff on all channels, no choice. BBC 4 was a black screen with a message to switch to BBC1 for a major news report.

[Peevemor]

Where do you end with that then?

There are plenty of good Hibs men and women who’ve passed on without condolences being tweeted out by the club, particularly not in such glowing terms. It’s a bad tweet with tone deaf phrasing that does not reflect the views of a large % of our support, can we just admit and move on?Why can't you let it go? If it wasn't for people like you posting your words of wisdom the thread would have quickly disappeared down the board.

[Hiber-nation]

Where do you end with that then?

There are plenty of good Hibs men and women who’ve passed on without condolences being tweeted out by the club, particularly not in such glowing terms. It’s a bad tweet with tone deaf phrasing that does not reflect the views of a large % of our support, can we just admit and move on?

We could end with you stopping posting on it as I seem to recall you promised to do yesterday.

[Keith_M]

Is the Forth Bridge back up again, or are the trains all having to detour via Stirling?

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Heard a comment on Radio 4 this morning that this could be an event that links Palace and People. When that piece was over, it went back to contributions from plum voiced doddery aristocrats and dowagers.

[Colr]

What’s it going to be like when the queen goes? TV and radio will be ****ed for weeks!

The media is either overestimating how much the public cares or are out-competing each other in sycophancy so they can get a gong.

[lord bunberry]

https://i.ibb.co/LSWH2K9/C5652-EF8-9-EE2-43-F1-87-EC-DFAA66-BA050-F.png (https://ibb.co/6YxLfQD)

[HibeeHibernian4]

Why can't you let it go? If it wasn't for people like you posting your words of wisdom the thread would have quickly disappeared down the board.

If it wasn't for Hibs posting an absolute riddy of a tweet doffing the club's cap to an elderly racist from a parasitic monarchy, the thread wouldn't have even been created. There's your domino effect!

[Peevemor]

If it wasn't for Hibs posting an absolute riddy of a tweet doffing the club's cap to an elderly racist from a parasitic monarchy, the thread wouldn't have even been created. There's your domino effect!How many posts have you posted in response to one tweet? A small minority seem bothered by it, you've had your say, we understand. Why not let it go now?

[danhibees1875]

What’s it going to be like when the queen goes? TV and radio will be ****ed for weeks!

The media is either overestimating how much the public cares or are out-competing each other in sycophancy so they can get a gong.

Maybe you underestimate it? :dunno:

Support for the monarchy tends to always poll safely towards favourable. Then that majority will be more likely to seek out and watch the programming compared to those who don't care so they're probably doing a good job of catering for their audience.

Worked out fine for me anyway as I was behind on master chef and this should avoid me seeing any spoilers. :greengrin

[Moulin Yarns]

Where do you end with that then?

There are plenty of good Hibs men and women who’ve passed on without condolences being tweeted out by the club, particularly not in such glowing terms. It’s a bad tweet with tone deaf phrasing that does not reflect the views of a large % of our support, can we just admit and move on?

Do you really expect a football club to tweet condolences to the family of every fan who died? Even though they are known to a handful of others, unlike the chook of embra who was known to millions as the husband of the head of state.

The club were damned if they did and damned if they didn't.

[Pretty Boy]

The BBC, ITV et al are driven by viewing figures. This will be getting huge figures. There's probably 3 reasons for that. People who are genuinely interested, people who are largely disinterested but have the TV on in the background and finally people who are disinterested but continue to tune in to fuel their own ire and then be indignant about the coverage on social media. I daresay something like that existed in the past but the platform it now has gives it a scale that makes it quite a new phenomenon.

I said yesterday that the media coverage will follow a similar pattern to the death of the Queen Mother. The day of the death and much of the day after is saturation. Then normal programming will resume with it still being the main item on the news, then a bit more saturation for the funeral then very little until the Queens 1st engagement afterwards.

The fact is after a while there is just nothing more to say when someone dies at an old age of natural causes. There's no accident and young age angle as there was with Diana. It was an entirely expected event and as the news repeats for the 100th time the viewing figures will dwindle.

I'm sure there are a limited number of people who have no access to other forms of media but if you wanted to watch the Hearts game yesterday, you could. If you wanted to watch the Masters, you could. If you wanted to watch the racing, you could. If you were inconvenienced by the media saturation then frankly you made a wilful decision to be so. I watched 5 minutes news on TV yesterday, read other news articles that interested me on various sites, watched the racing all day, watched a bit golf last night then cracked open a few cans and watched a film. Had I missed the lunchtime news and not logged on to here or Twitter I'd say it was highly likely I could have been unaware the death had even occurred. Once I was aware of the news after a cursory few minutes it was perfectly easy to avoid hearing any more about it.

As for Hibs tweet. I do find it a bit bizarre that we put something out when few other clubs felt the need to do so. I can only imagine the Edinburgh connection has been at the forefront of someone's mind. I can't say I'm embarrassed by it though. I don't even understand what form that embarrassment takes. Are people scared they will be getting a slagging at their work or something? Or are you just sitting in your house squirming? I'd say I'm a tad bewildered and I wouldn't have noticed or cared if Hibs didn't put a tweet out. They did, it's now yesterday's news. If people move on then it ceases to be relevant because no one will be talking about it.

[Andy74]

Do you really expect a football club to tweet condolences to the family of every fan who died? Even though they are known to a handful of others, unlike the chook of embra who was known to millions as the husband of the head of state.

The club were damned if they did and damned if they didn't.

I think the point is largely no one would have cared if we didn’t. Very few football clubs have.

Think it was just poorly judged. They should have known it would be pretty divisive and doing nothing would have been the more sensible option.

Having decided to do it they’ve also gone a bit OTT on the wording.

Wouldn’t surprise me if Ron thought it would be a great idea to link the Edinburgh piece. Being based in the US he possibly thinks like they tend to do there that we love that stuff.

[Sir David Gray]

What’s it going to be like when the queen goes? TV and radio will be ****ed for weeks!

The media is either overestimating how much the public cares or are out-competing each other in sycophancy so they can get a gong.

They're definitely not overestimating it at all. There's still overwhelming support for the monarchy in the UK. Consistent polling shows that abolition of the monarchy is supported by less than 30% of people.

[degenerated]

Do you really expect a football club to tweet condolences to the family of every fan who died? Even though they are known to a handful of others, unlike the chook of embra who was known to millions as the husband of the head of state.

The club were damned if they did and damned if they didn't.They weren't damned if they didn't, no one would have batted an eyelid if hibs hadn't put that tweet out. I haven't seen any criticism of any of the vast majority of clubs that didn't feel it necessary to do so.



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[Sir David Gray]

The BBC, ITV et al are driven by viewing figures. This will be getting huge figures. There's probably 3 reasons for that. People who are genuinely interested, people who are largely disinterested but have the TV on in the background and finally people who are disinterested but continue to tune in to fuel their own ire and then be indignant about the coverage on social media. I daresay something like that existed in the past but the platform it now has gives it a scale that makes it quite a new phenomenon.

I said yesterday that the media coverage will follow a similar pattern to the death of the Queen Mother. The day of the death and much of the day after is saturation. Then normal programming will resume with it still being the main item on the news, then a bit more saturation for the funeral then very little until the Queens 1st engagement afterwards.

The fact is after a while there is just nothing more to say when someone dies at an old age of natural causes. There's no accident and young age angle as there was with Diana. It was an entirely expected event and as the news repeats for the 100th time the viewing figures will dwindle.

I'm sure there are a limited number of people who have no access to other forms of media but if you wanted to watch the Hearts game yesterday, you could. If you wanted to watch the Masters, you could. If you wanted to watch the racing, you could. If you were inconvenienced by the media saturation then frankly you made a wilful decision to be so. I watched 5 minutes news on TV yesterday, read other news articles that interested me on various sites, watched the racing all day, watched a bit golf last night then cracked open a few cans and watched a film. Had I missed the lunchtime news and not logged on to here or Twitter I'd say it was highly likely I could have been unaware the death had even occurred. Once I was aware of the news after a cursory few minutes it was perfectly easy to avoid hearing any more about it.

As for Hibs tweet. I do find it a bit bizarre that we put something out when few other clubs felt the need to do so. I can only imagine the Edinburgh connection has been at the forefront of someone's mind. I can't say I'm embarrassed by it though. I don't even understand what form that embarrassment takes. Are people scared they will be getting a slagging at their work or something? Or are you just sitting in your house squirming? I'd say I'm a tad bewildered and I wouldn't have noticed or cared if Hibs didn't put a tweet out. They did, it's now yesterday's news. If people move on then it ceases to be relevant because no one will be talking about it.

Largely agree but re the bit in bold you're obviously not a Neighbours fan. :greengrin

[CapitalGreen]

Do you really expect a football club to tweet condolences to the family of every fan who died? Even though they are known to a handful of others, unlike the chook of embra who was known to millions as the husband of the head of state.

The club were damned if they did and damned if they didn't.

Considering no other Premiership team other than Rangers tweeted condolence, I doubt the club would have been damned if they didn’t either.

[James70]

The guy married the woman he loved never expecting to be thrust into the role he was expected to play so soon after his marriage. Yes, he had a life of privilege but also a life of duty. If people can't sympathise then at least there is no need for disrespect. He had his faults but don't we all?

[Lancs Harp]

I would regard myself as being fairly tolerant but relegating Saturday kitchen to BBC2 is going a step too far for me.

[Andy74]

The guy married the woman he loved never expecting to be thrust into the role he was expected to play so soon after his marriage. Yes, he had a life of privilege but also a life of duty. If people can't sympathise then at least there is no need for disrespect. He had his faults but don't we all?

That’s got nothing really to do with us tweeting about it.

[Keith_M]

1952 - The Palace


P: "Haw Betty. Ken how you said Ah could be the King when you get coronated 'n'at?"

B: "Aye, Phil. Whit aboot it?"

P: "Well, apparently the idea's been kiboshed. They said a cannae, cos I'm no in the royal lineage, or summit"

B: "Ach, baws. Never mind we could come up wi' some other title fur ye.

... "Normally we huv tae gie ye a title wi' some place name in it. Anyhin ye fancy?"

P: "Nah, no that bothered hen. Though Ah did once hae a braw Fish Supper when we went tae that Holyrood place ye huv up north."

B: "Okeydokey Phil, ma wee Moussaka."

.... "Ah'll make ye the Chookie Embra"

P: "Sounds braw hen. Cheers fur that"


------------------

2021 - Easter Road

Hibs Twitter: "Hibernian FC would like to pass on our condolences to Her Maj, after the sad passing of The Chookie Embra.

He had incredibly strong ties to our great city and it is with special sadness that we have to accept he'll no be buying any more of wur soggy pies at Easter Road"

[HibeeHibernian4]

Do you really expect a football club to tweet condolences to the family of every fan who died? Even though they are known to a handful of others, unlike the chook of embra who was known to millions as the husband of the head of state.

The club were damned if they did and damned if they didn't.

The club was in no way "damned if they don't", they would have followed the path that ten other SPFL Premiership clubs took; ie. recognising it had nothing to do with them and staying silent.

Us, Rangers, Hearts and Airdrie. Awful company to find ourselves keeeping.

[greenlex]

The BBC, ITV et al are driven by viewing figures. This will be getting huge figures. There's probably 3 reasons for that. People who are genuinely interested, people who are largely disinterested but have the TV on in the background and finally people who are disinterested but continue to tune in to fuel their own ire and then be indignant about the coverage on social media. I daresay something like that existed in the past but the platform it now has gives it a scale that makes it quite a new phenomenon.

I said yesterday that the media coverage will follow a similar pattern to the death of the Queen Mother. The day of the death and much of the day after is saturation. Then normal programming will resume with it still being the main item on the news, then a bit more saturation for the funeral then very little until the Queens 1st engagement afterwards.

The fact is after a while there is just nothing more to say when someone dies at an old age of natural causes. There's no accident and young age angle as there was with Diana. It was an entirely expected event and as the news repeats for the 100th time the viewing figures will dwindle.

I'm sure there are a limited number of people who have no access to other forms of media but if you wanted to watch the Hearts game yesterday, you could. If you wanted to watch the Masters, you could. If you wanted to watch the racing, you could. If you were inconvenienced by the media saturation then frankly you made a wilful decision to be so. I watched 5 minutes news on TV yesterday, read other news articles that interested me on various sites, watched the racing all day, watched a bit golf last night then cracked open a few cans and watched a film. Had I missed the lunchtime news and not logged on to here or Twitter I'd say it was highly likely I could have been unaware the death had even occurred. Once I was aware of the news after a cursory few minutes it was perfectly easy to avoid hearing any more about it.

As for Hibs tweet. I do find it a bit bizarre that we put something out when few other clubs felt the need to do so. I can only imagine the Edinburgh connection has been at the forefront of someone's mind. I can't say I'm embarrassed by it though. I don't even understand what form that embarrassment takes. Are people scared they will be getting a slagging at their work or something? Or are you just sitting in your house squirming? I'd say I'm a tad bewildered and I wouldn't have noticed or cared if Hibs didn't put a tweet out. They did, it's now yesterday's news. If people move on then it ceases to be relevant because no one will be talking about it.
I disagree with the wilfully inconvenience comment. If your housebound and have a routine around media both radio and television and even if your not housebound but your daily life is around and saturated by them then you won’t be willfully inconvenienced it will be thrust upon you.

[tamig]

https://i.ibb.co/LSWH2K9/C5652-EF8-9-EE2-43-F1-87-EC-DFAA66-BA050-F.png (https://ibb.co/6YxLfQD)

Your point caller?

[Hibs90]

Taking control of all the billboards and forcing blanket media coverage on people as the UK takes another step towards authoritarianism.


Shameful. Bow to your masters peasants.

[Callyballybe]

1952 - The Palace


P: "Haw Betty. Ken how you said Ah could be the King when you get coronated 'n'at?"

B: "Aye, Phil. Whit aboot it?"

P: "Well, apparently the idea's been kiboshed. They said a cannae, cos I'm no in the royal lineage, or summit"

B: "Ach, baws. Never mind we could come up wi' some other title fur ye.

... "Normally we huv tae gie ye a title wi' some place name in it. Anyhin ye fancy?"

P: "Nah, no that bothered hen. Though Ah did once hae a braw Fish Supper when we went tae that Holyrood place ye huv up north."

B: "Okeydokey Phil, ma wee Moussaka."

.... "Ah'll make ye the Chookie Embra"

P: "Sounds braw hen. Cheers fur that"


------------------

2021 - Easter Road

Hibs Twitter: "Hibernian FC would like to pass on out condolence to Her Maj, after the sad passing of The Chookie Embra.

He had incredibly strong ties to our great city and it is with special sadness that we have to accept he'll no be buying any more of wur soggy pies at Easter Road"

😂😂 Brilliant.

[Pretty Boy]

I disagree with the wilfully inconvenience comment. If your housebound and have a routine around media both radio and television and even if your not housebound but your daily life is around and saturated by them then you won’t be willfully inconvenienced it will be thrust upon you.

I did say there would be a limited number of people for whom that didn't apply. I know that isn't the case for many of the people I am seeing posting about it on social media. That who my point was aimed at, people who have a choice and are choosing to engage with something that annoys them.

[Hibs90]

The guy married the woman he loved never expecting to be thrust into the role he was expected to play so soon after his marriage. Yes, he had a life of privilege but also a life of duty. If people can't sympathise then at least there is no need for disrespect. He had his faults but don't we all?

Doesn't make him any less racist.

[Peevemor]

Doesn't make him any less racist.You do realise that those who keep bringing up his perceived racism, are every bit as intolerant as they accuse him of being.

[The Modfather]

He’s yesterday’s news now, time to move onto something else. Are street names still in vogue or has that 15 minutes passed?

[Moulin Yarns]

The club was in no way "damned if they don't", they would have followed the path that ten other SPFL Premiership clubs took; ie. recognising it had nothing to do with them and staying silent.

Us, Rangers, Hearts and Airdrie. Awful company to find ourselves keeeping.

What links did the chook have to Aberdeen, Dundee or Dingwall. At least he had a holiday cottage in embra. 😉

[660]

The BBC, ITV et al are driven by viewing figures. This will be getting huge figures. There's probably 3 reasons for that. People who are genuinely interested, people who are largely disinterested but have the TV on in the background and finally people who are disinterested but continue to tune in to fuel their own ire and then be indignant about the coverage on social media. I daresay something like that existed in the past but the platform it now has gives it a scale that makes it quite a new phenomenon.

I said yesterday that the media coverage will follow a similar pattern to the death of the Queen Mother. The day of the death and much of the day after is saturation. Then normal programming will resume with it still being the main item on the news, then a bit more saturation for the funeral then very little until the Queens 1st engagement afterwards.

The fact is after a while there is just nothing more to say when someone dies at an old age of natural causes. There's no accident and young age angle as there was with Diana. It was an entirely expected event and as the news repeats for the 100th time the viewing figures will dwindle.

I'm sure there are a limited number of people who have no access to other forms of media but if you wanted to watch the Hearts game yesterday, you could. If you wanted to watch the Masters, you could. If you wanted to watch the racing, you could. If you were inconvenienced by the media saturation then frankly you made a wilful decision to be so. I watched 5 minutes news on TV yesterday, read other news articles that interested me on various sites, watched the racing all day, watched a bit golf last night then cracked open a few cans and watched a film. Had I missed the lunchtime news and not logged on to here or Twitter I'd say it was highly likely I could have been unaware the death had even occurred. Once I was aware of the news after a cursory few minutes it was perfectly easy to avoid hearing any more about it.

As for Hibs tweet. I do find it a bit bizarre that we put something out when few other clubs felt the need to do so. I can only imagine the Edinburgh connection has been at the forefront of someone's mind. I can't say I'm embarrassed by it though. I don't even understand what form that embarrassment takes. Are people scared they will be getting a slagging at their work or something? Or are you just sitting in your house squirming? I'd say I'm a tad bewildered and I wouldn't have noticed or cared if Hibs didn't put a tweet out. They did, it's now yesterday's news. If people move on then it ceases to be relevant because no one will be talking about it.

This isn’t driven by viewing figures otherwise BBC wouldn’t have the same thing on both their channels.

There was nothing to say about 5 minutes after it was announced. It’s just endless jingoistic drivel and recreational grief. To comment on how appropriate the coverage is is not driven entirely be the level of inconvenience. It’s valid to ask if it’s appropriate or worthwhile even if you are avoiding it.

[Moulin Yarns]

He’s yesterday’s news now, time to move onto something else. Are street names still in vogue or has that 15 minutes passed?

I live 2 miles from Duke of Edinburgh drive 😉

[Hibs90]

You do realise that those who keep bringing up his perceived racism, are every bit as intolerant as they accuse him of being.

In 1986, while on a visit to China, Philip described Beijing as "ghastly." He also told British students: "If you stay here much longer you'll all be slitty-eyed."
In 1994, he asked residents of the Cayman Islands if most of them were "descended from pirates" and in 2002 he asked an aboriginal leader in Queensland: "Do you still throw spears at each other?"

It's not an accusation. He is a racist.


I wouldn't describe myself as intolerant but I can't speak for everyone else.

[Pretty Boy]

Doesn't make him any less racist.

If I died tomorrow I seriously hope the entirety of my life wouldn't be judged on either the worst or best thing I had ever done. It would paint such an incomplete picture of who I was as a person.

For a very small percentage of people there is little option but to do so. No one is going to retrospectively revisit Harold Shipman because he done his bit for the local Rotary Club. However for most of us things are a bit more nuanced.

The man lived for almost 100 years, humans are complex. I don't think his entire life can be summed up as either 'privileged old racist' or 'dutiful public servant and serviceman'. As with most things the truth isn't black and white (no pun intended).

[blackpoolhibs]

:top marks And that's from someone who was brought up to turn off the tv before the Queen came on and they played God save the Queen :aok:

Me too, and I've also been having a chuckle at all the memes and texts I've seen and been sent. The club acted in the best interest and I don't see the problem. It certainly did not offend me. Although what I have on my phone would offend most of the world. 😂

[lapsedhibee]

I live 2 miles from Duke of Edinburgh drive 😉
Naming a street after a golf stroke is just ridiculous. What next, Putt St? :dunno:

[CropleyWasGod]

Naming a street after a golf stroke is just ridiculous. What next, Putt St? :dunno:

The Shankill Road?

[Keith_M]

He’s yesterday’s news now, time to move onto something else. Are street names still in vogue or has that 15 minutes passed?


I believe they're renaming even more streets in Edinburgh to 'Mountbatten (Terrace/Junction/Place)' in his honour.

They were going to use the original name, Battenberg*, but some folk still haven't got over the First World War, so it's unlikely to be accepted





* The family name actually was Battenberg (Mount Batten is the literal English translation), but they changed it due to anti-German sentiment in WWI... just as Windsor replaced the royal family name of Saxe-Coburg.

[Colr]

In 1986, while on a visit to China, Philip described Beijing as "ghastly." He also told British students: "If you stay here much longer you'll all be slitty-eyed."
In 1994, he asked residents of the Cayman Islands if most of them were "descended from pirates" and in 2002 he asked an aboriginal leader in Queensland: "Do you still throw spears at each other?"

It's not an accusation. He is a racist.


I wouldn't describe myself as intolerant but I can't speak for everyone else.

To a Scottish driving instructor: “How do you keep the locals off the booze long enough to pass their test?”

[Colr]

I believe they're renaming even more streets in Edinburgh to 'Mountbatten (Terrace/Junction/Place)' in his honour.

They were going to use the original name, Battenberg*, but some folk still haven't got over the First World War, so it's unlikely to be accepted





* The family name actually was Battenberg (Mount Batten is the literal English translation), but they changed it due to anti-German sentiment in WWI... just as Windsor replaced the royal family name of Saxe-Coburg.

Empire biscuits where German biscuits, Belgian buns were German buns. Battenberg cake seems to have escaped renaming.

[Hiber-nation]

They're definitely not overestimating it at all. There's still overwhelming support for the monarchy in the UK. Consistent polling shows that abolition of the monarchy is supported by less than 30% of people.

That's the UK. I don't consider myself to be part of the UK. It would be interesting to see the % for Scotland.

[Sir David Gray]

That’s got nothing really to do with us tweeting about it.

Maybe not but the discussion has largely moved on. Since the original thread on this forum was closed, this is now the only thread available to comment on this topic. People will also want to comment on it in a more general way than just solely about Hibs' tweet.

[Colr]

That's the UK. I don't consider myself to be part of the UK. It would be interesting to see the % for Scotland.

I’ve been trying to find the pole but I read that the royals are most unpopular in Glasgow and Liverpool.

I was sitting in an Irish bar in Liverpool when the queen mother died and can confirm she was not mourned there!

[Keith_M]

Empire biscuits were German biscuits, Belgian buns were German buns. Battenberg cake seems to have escaped renaming.



I sense a culture war coming on...


They ARE called German Biscuits. As an East Coaster, I refuse to accept the name 'Empire Biscuits'


:grr:

[Pretty Boy]

That's the UK. I don't consider myself to be part of the UK. It would be interesting to see the % for Scotland.

Somewhere between 41 and 53% support the monarchy in Scotland depending on what poll you believe.

The most recent I can find are from 2018 though. I daresay there has been a shift one way or another as we have become increasingly polarised constitutionally and politically.

[Colr]

I sense a culture war coming on...


They ARE called German Biscuits. As an East Coaster, I refuse to accept the name 'Empire Biscuits'


:grr:

I’ve seen them called Linzer biscuits but then they didn’t have a joob joob.

[degenerated]

I’ve been trying to find the pole but I read that the royals are most unpopular in Glasgow and Liverpool.

I was sitting in an Irish bar in Liverpool when the queen mother died and can confirm she was not mourned there!It's usually about 40% in favour of royal family in Scotland as a whole, from memory.
If you take out rangers, hearts, airdrie and Hibs it's probably about 15% :greengrin

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[danhibees1875]

To a Scottish driving instructor: “How do you keep the locals off the booze long enough to pass their test?”

There's a couple of examples of closed mindedness in what he's said, although they may have just been bad jokes.

That one however is pretty funny. :greengrin

[degenerated]

Somewhere between 41 and 53% support the monarchy in Scotland depending on what poll you believe.

The most recent I can find are from 2018 though. I daresay there has been a shift one way or another as we have become increasingly polarised constitutionally and politically.There's ones from march 21 where it's around 40%

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[lapsedhibee]

The Shankill Road?

:agree: Exactly. Look how that ended, in a fankle.

[Sir David Gray]

That's the UK. I don't consider myself to be part of the UK. It would be interesting to see the % for Scotland.

I know it's for the UK but the poster I quoted wasn't talking specifically about the media in Scotland, it was as a whole.

In terms of Scotland, whilst clearly the monarchy unsurprisingly enjoys most support in England, support in Scotland is consistently around 50%.

I really don't think comments on a predominantly left wing football forum is the best way to measure support for the monarchy in Scotland.

[Pretty Boy]

There's ones from march 21 where it's around 40%

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So not really a massive shift in 3 years then. I suppose that makes sense as I doubt the monarchy is a massively pressing concern for many people in the short to medium term.

I'd probably be more inclined to get behind the SNPs vision for independence if they committed to a Scottish republic. I'm sure there is a reason why they haven't done that though.

[degenerated]

So not really a massive shift in 3 years then. I suppose that makes sense as I doubt the monarchy is a massively pressing concern for many people in the short to medium term.

I'd probably be more inclined to get behind the SNPs vision for independence if they committed to a Scottish republic. I'm sure there is a reason why they haven't done that though.That will just be a short term view. Getting shot of Betty Battenburg and her motley crew of scroungers as well as independence would be too much for some in one go. It would scare off some of those who would vote for independence.

There will be a referendum on royal family post independence.

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[CMurdoch]

They're definitely not overestimating it at all. There's still overwhelming support for the monarchy in the UK. Consistent polling shows that abolition of the monarchy is supported by less than 30% of people.

That is a pretty weird stat. Hard to believe that normal folk under 70 would think the monarchy is relevant.
The eventual passing of the Queen or Prince Charles should probably be the end of it.
It's run it's course.
Everything has a shelf life and the monarchy is nearing the end of it's.
A tourist attraction for many years and interesting to old women.

I find it strange how much annoyance is directed at them though when it's the public schools system working class folk should be aiming their anger at and having dismantled.
Distracted by a shiny bauble.

[Malthibby]

So not really a massive shift in 3 years then. I suppose that makes sense as I doubt the monarchy is a massively pressing concern for many people in the short to medium term.

I'd probably be more inclined to get behind the SNPs vision for independence if they committed to a Scottish republic. I'm sure there is a reason why they haven't done that though.

Think they know there's a Royalist support even amongst a minority of pro-Indy folk & they don't want to alienate anyone who has a vote to cast. They've been around a long time and folk have got very used
to them, a bit like the old coat at the back of the rack - serves no purpose but you can't quite make the decision to throw it out.
Any time I let myself dream about an independent Scotland the royal family are wholly absent & we've got our coast back.

[Peevemor]

That is a pretty weird stat. Hard to believe that normal folk under 70 would think the monarchy is relevant.
The eventual passing of the Queen or Prince Charles should probably be the end of it.
It's run it's course.
Everything has a shelf life and the monarchy is nearing the end of it's.
A tourist attraction for many years and interesting to old women.

I find it strange how much annoyance is directed at them when it's the public schools system working class folk should be aiming their anger at and having dismantled.
Distracted by a shiny bauble.I suspect that a lot of people (like me) don't even pose the question about the relevance of royalty. I see myself arguing neither for keeping them, nor doing away with them. They're just there and, apart from sometimes dominating the media, have had probably zero practical impact on my life. Total indifference on my part.

[Sir David Gray]

That is a pretty weird stat. Hard to believe that normal folk under 70 would think the monarchy is relevant.
The eventual passing of the Queen or Prince Charles should probably be the end of it.
It's run it's course.
Everything has a shelf life and the monarchy is nearing the end of it's.
A tourist attraction for many years and interesting to old women.

I find it strange how much annoyance is directed at them when it's the public schools system working class folk should be aiming their anger at and having dismantled.
Distracted by a shiny bauble.

I don't disagree that it's run its course. I would personally start the process of abolishing the monarchy once the Queen dies but it will never happen, at least not in my lifetime.

If anything popularity may get even stronger in the next 20 years or so when William takes over as he's really well liked.

[CapitalGreen]

You do realise that those who keep bringing up his perceived racism, are every bit as intolerant as they accuse him of being.

Intolerance of racism is a badge I’d wear with honour.

[Andy74]

You do realise that those who keep bringing up his perceived racism, are every bit as intolerant as they accuse him of being.

This is an odd one on the face of it. We should be tolerant of racism?

[danhibees1875]

Think they know there's a Royalist support even amongst a minority of pro-Indy folk & they don't want to alienate anyone who has a vote to cast. They've been around a long time and folk have got very used
to them, a bit like the old coat at the back of the rack - serves no purpose but you can't quite make the decision to throw it out.
Any time I let myself dream about an independent Scotland the royal family are wholly absent & we've got our coast back.

I think the 2021 ~40% (50/50 excl DK) figure was taken from these stats which was based on whether the royals would continue in an indy Scotland (not sure how much that question would result in a different % compared to general support for the royals within Scotland as things stand).

Yes voters were at 30% to maintain the monarchy, 56% for republic.
No voters were 54% to maintain the monarchy, 22% for republic.


"A survey commissioned by Sky News found that 39% of voters would support the Royal Family retaining their traditional role if the UK was break-up, while 39% said a Scottish republic should be created and 22% said they didn't know.

Support for the Queen and her successors is highest amongst those who would no at any future IndyRef2, with 54% saying they backed the monarchy, 22% in favour of a republic, and 24% being undecided.

The idea of creating a republic north of the Border is meanwhile supported by 56% of Yes voters, with 30% backing the monarchy and 15% saying they don't know."

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/scots-split-whether-monarchy-should-23752436

[makaveli1875]

This is an odd one on the face of it. We should be tolerant of racism?

Folk are dragging up stuff he said before i was even born , going back 4 decades to drag up a couple of iffy jokes he made .

[Andy74]

Folk are dragging up stuff he said before i was even born , going back 4 decades to drag up a couple of iffy jokes he made .

That’s true but it was more the intolerant aspect I was wondering about. I wasn’t sure how people bringing up previous instances of racism could make them intolerant - in a negative sense.

[Hibrandenburg]

Empire biscuits where German biscuits, Belgian buns were German buns. Battenberg cake seems to have escaped renaming.

The French got in on the act as well. Kölnisch Wasser or Eu de Cologne was renamed Eu de Toilette.

[Santa Cruz]

I suspect that a lot of people (like me) don't even pose the question about the relevance of royalty. I see myself arguing neither for keeping them, nor doing away with them. They're just there and, apart from sometimes dominating the media, have had probably zero practical impact on my life. Total indifference on my part.

Same for me, they make no difference to my life in a positive or negative way. The only thing I would add is I would be happier with them retaining their status if they were less dependant on the State for funding, they do have enough money of their own. As for the OP's point on Public Schools, I have no problem with any person opting to choose that over State schools, they pay their taxes which contribute towards State Education and they get nothing back from that system.

[James70]

I am not a Royalist but I do respect the job they do and are expected to do. There must be many many occasions they have to meet and socialise with people they cannot actually stand. I would rather have a Queen or King as figureheads but with little power before a dictator who demands obedience at all times. Megan Markle did a runner as soon as she realised she was going to have no power. The Queen is a ruler in name only doing what her Government wants done.

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/contact/death-duke-of-edinburgh-tv-coverage/#/Notification


😉

[660]

I am not a Royalist but I do respect the job they do and are expected to do. There must be many many occasions they have to meet and socialise with people they cannot actually stand. I would rather have a Queen or King as figureheads but with little power before a dictator who demands obedience at all times. Megan Markle did a runner as soon as she realised she was going to have no power. The Queen is a ruler in name only doing what her Government wants done.

Ah yes I too remember when aspiring dictator Meghan Markle married into the royal family for power.

[CMurdoch]

I don't disagree that it's run its course. I would personally start the process of abolishing the monarchy once the Queen dies but it will never happen, at least not in my lifetime.

If anything popularity may get even stronger in the next 20 years or so when William takes over as he's really well liked.

William, wow I just thought he was a wet bald guy.
A bit like damaging your Beatles in Mono boxset and someone wanting to replace it with a Take That boxset.
Best not bother.

[James70]

Ah yes I too remember when aspiring dictator Meghan Markle married into the royal family for power.

Ha Ha!

[greenlex]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/contact/death-duke-of-edinburgh-tv-coverage/#/Notification


😉
I’d batter in but as I don’t pay my licence they’re not getting me that easy.:greengrin

[Just Alf]

You do realise that those who keep bringing up his perceived racism, are every bit as intolerant as they accuse him of being.

Totally, this is the guy that was willing to lay his life on the line with many others of his generation to fight fascism and protect our freedoms, he also, along with a foreign Jew created and drove the Duke of Edinburgh Award scheme which has helped put the City's name into peoples minds across the world.

He's getting pulled up for being racist, it's not like he went about daily spouting bile, he didn't... there's a reason his utterances are regularly called "gaffes", he would occasionally came out with something cringeworthy or would say some politically incorrect joke (he's have done well on this board) ... he was a child of his age, the things he said were the norm back then, over the years he was less prone to the odd gaffe, that was because he was learning and changing his speech like most, if not all of his generation.

On the same, but different note... I'm 56, when I was at Broughton one of my pals mentioned our new school mate some of us were still to meet, calling him black when describing what he was like. He was overheard by a teacher and the 4 of us got the belt for it, that name was unacceptable, apparently we should have used the word "coloured"
Now a days folk lose their jobs for using the words they were taught as kids.

[Peevemor]

This is an odd one on the face of it. We should be tolerant of racism?Not at all, but making no effort to understand that a few off-the-cuff comments/jokes made 35+ years ago may have been more acceptable then than it is now is a lack of tolerance IMO.

If people attempted to understand each other instead of immediately and automatically taking diametrically opposite positions we'd all be a bit better off.

[gbhibby]

Didn't mind the TV coverage at least it kept Bradley Walsh off the TV for one day
I am not Chaseist.

[660]

Not at all, but making no effort to understand that a few off-the-cuff comments/jokes made 35+ years ago may have been more acceptable then than it is now is a lack of tolerance IMO.

If people attempted to understand each other instead of immediately and automatically taking diametrically opposite positions we'd all be a bit better off.

Why do people keep saying 35-40 years ago when he has made racist sexist or xenophobic comments much more recently than that?

[CMurdoch]

I suspect that a lot of people (like me) don't even pose the question about the relevance of royalty. I see myself arguing neither for keeping them, nor doing away with them. They're just there and, apart from sometimes dominating the media, have had probably zero practical impact on my life. Total indifference on my part.

Snap

[Peevemor]

Why do people keep saying 35-40 years ago when he has made racist sexist or xenophobic comments much more recently than that?Maybe, I honestly don't know. He did seem to peak in the 80s though.

[CMurdoch]

Why do people keep saying 35-40 years ago when he has made racist sexist or xenophobic comments much more recently than that?

Did I miss the big man racially abusing Morelos on social media?

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I am not Chaseist.

I am, Lorraine especially, just couldn't take to her at all.

[hibsbollah]

To a Scottish driving instructor: “How do you keep the locals off the booze long enough to pass their test?”

I think that’s quite funny. I’ve probably said similar myself.
I’m far from a royalist but I just don’t think the racist accusation is helpful or accurate. The language he uses is a product of the time he grew up. My grandad born 1908 was the same.

[Hibrandenburg]

Ah yes I too remember when aspiring dictator Meghan Markle married into the royal family for power.

It will be interesting to see what line the mainstream media now take with her, will it be:

Meghan Markle's presence at the funeral adds insult to injury at this sombre time for the Royal Family?

Or:

Meghan Markle's absence from the funeral adds insult to injury at this sombre time for the Royal Family?

[Peevemor]

It will be interesting to see what line the mainstream media now take with her, will it be:

Meghan Markle's presence at the funeral adds insult to injury at this sombre time for the Royal Family?

Or:

Meghan Markle's absence from the funeral adds insult to injury at this sombre time for the Royal Family?Both are correct. Burn the witch!

[Bangkok Hibby]

I don't disagree that it's run its course. I would personally start the process of abolishing the monarchy once the Queen dies but it will never happen, at least not in my lifetime.

If anything popularity may get even stronger in the next 20 years or so when William takes over as he's really well liked.

What can he possibly bring to the position? I get the Queen's popularity, WW2, decades of Xmas speeches. Surely soon be time to dismantle the whole set up.

[Billy Whizz]

It will be interesting to see what line the mainstream media now take with her, will it be:

Meghan Markle's presence at the funeral adds insult to injury at this sombre time for the Royal Family?

Or:

Meghan Markle's absence from the funeral adds insult to injury at this sombre time for the Royal Family?

She’s expecting a baby, maybe a real reason for her not to travel. Not sure when the baby is due

[Sir David Gray]

What can he possibly bring to the position? I get the Queen's popularity, WW2, decades of Xmas speeches. Surely soon be time to dismantle the whole set up.

Again I don't disagree, I'm not a Royalist but I accept that they are very popular and William is particularly popular.

[heretoday]

Again I don't disagree, I'm not a Royalist but I accept that they are very popular and William is particularly popular.

He seems like a decent guy and his wife's a winner. Nice kids too and they are all his own work.

[The dalmeny]

Empire biscuits where German biscuits, Belgian buns were German buns. Battenberg cake seems to have escaped renaming.

double biscuits now :confused:

[JeMeSouviens]

Slightly o/t but is Bernard Manning still alive?

No, popped his clogs in 2007 if anyone else was wondering.

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/171197650_308705427281134_5655191303682620761_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=jIQVgEx-RYQAX--7SGJ&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=3b395a7a9adc53625236ab0305819d3b&oe=6096B9F3


as much as i dislike ALL royals, stfu farage

[Bostonhibby]

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/171197650_308705427281134_5655191303682620761_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=jIQVgEx-RYQAX--7SGJ&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=3b395a7a9adc53625236ab0305819d3b&oe=6096B9F3


as much as i dislike ALL royals, stfu farageSmall irrelevance sees chance to try and be relevant.

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[cabbageandribs1875]

Small irrelevance sees chance to try and be relevant.

Sent from my SM-A750FN using Tapatalk


:agree:


i don't really watch mainstream telly but i read it's been intolerable
Prince Philip death: BBC and ITV viewing figures plummet amid wall-to-wall royal coverage (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/tv/other/prince-philip-death-bbc-and-itv-viewing-figures-plummet-amid-wall-to-wall-royal-coverage/ar-BB1fvwR9?ocid=msedgntp)

Viewing figures for the BBC (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/bbc) and ITV (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/itv) collapsed after they pulled their regularly scheduled programming for wall-to-wall coverage of Prince Philip (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/prince-philip)’s death


i've been turning the Radio off every minute before the hour before the news comes on

[Colr]

The French got in on the act as well. Kölnisch Wasser or Eu de Cologne was renamed Eu de Toilette.

Bit harsh on Cologne.

[Colr]

It will be interesting to see what line the mainstream media now take with her, will it be:

Meghan Markle's presence at the funeral adds insult to injury at this sombre time for the Royal Family?

Or:

Meghan Markle's absence from the funeral adds insult to injury at this sombre time for the Royal Family?

I’m sure the Daily Mail and Piers Morgan will claim she killed him.

[Bostonhibby]

:agree:


i don't really watch mainstream telly but i read it's been intolerable
Prince Philip death: BBC and ITV viewing figures plummet amid wall-to-wall royal coverage (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/tv/other/prince-philip-death-bbc-and-itv-viewing-figures-plummet-amid-wall-to-wall-royal-coverage/ar-BB1fvwR9?ocid=msedgntp)

Viewing figures for the BBC (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/bbc) and ITV (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/itv) collapsed after they pulled their regularly scheduled programming for wall-to-wall coverage of Prince Philip (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/prince-philip)’s death


i've been turning the Radio off every minute before the hour before the news comes onIt's not a great time to be a Republican, I prefer to say nothing too derogatory as someone's died, but when airtime is given to turds like this one it's perhaps not difficult to see why some people might react the other way.



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[danhibees1875]

:agree:


i don't really watch mainstream telly but i read it's been intolerable
Prince Philip death: BBC and ITV viewing figures plummet amid wall-to-wall royal coverage (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/tv/other/prince-philip-death-bbc-and-itv-viewing-figures-plummet-amid-wall-to-wall-royal-coverage/ar-BB1fvwR9?ocid=msedgntp)

Viewing figures for the BBC (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/bbc) and ITV (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/itv) collapsed after they pulled their regularly scheduled programming for wall-to-wall coverage of Prince Philip (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/prince-philip)’s death


i've been turning the Radio off every minute before the hour before the news comes on

Id imagine that's to be expected. There's only so much for them to say so yesterday would have been pretty repetitive for anyone watching.

I watched a bit at lunch as the news broke before firing on a quiz show and then a little at night before catching up on master chef and probably heard all there was to be heard.

[Hibrandenburg]

:agree:


i don't really watch mainstream telly but i read it's been intolerable
Prince Philip death: BBC and ITV viewing figures plummet amid wall-to-wall royal coverage (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/tv/other/prince-philip-death-bbc-and-itv-viewing-figures-plummet-amid-wall-to-wall-royal-coverage/ar-BB1fvwR9?ocid=msedgntp)

Viewing figures for the BBC (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/bbc) and ITV (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/itv) collapsed after they pulled their regularly scheduled programming for wall-to-wall coverage of Prince Philip (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/prince-philip)’s death


i've been turning the Radio off every minute before the hour before the news comes on

Thank god for the Masters Golf Tournament.

The coverage is actually quite ghoulish, it's so obvious that plans have been in place, speeches rehearsed, films made, wardrobes at the ready and sombre looks practised in front of mirrors. It's a bit like watching vultures finally get their prey.

[Jones28]

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/171197650_308705427281134_5655191303682620761_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=jIQVgEx-RYQAX--7SGJ&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=3b395a7a9adc53625236ab0305819d3b&oe=6096B9F3

as much as i dislike ALL royals, stfu farage

Look, look! I’m still here! Please don’t forget me!

File under Katie Hopkins and anyone ever made famous by the X Factor

[Glory Lurker]

Look, look! I’m still here! Please don’t forget me!

File under Katie Hopkins and anyone ever made famous by the X Factor

The thing is though that he has caused where we are.

[Jones28]

The thing is though that he has caused where we are.

He’s only terrified of his relevance disappearing now that Brexit has actually happened.

[Glory Lurker]

He’s only terrified of his relevance disappearing now that Brexit has actually happened.

Oh, sure. Brexit's some legacy though :-(

[Jones28]

Oh, sure. Brexit's some legacy though :-(

It may well be, but I can’t help feel that the legacy of Brexit will be remembered for a whole host of different reasons. Farage is part of it sure, but he is by no means the only ingredient.

IMO it will be more remembered for being David Cameron’s policy.

[cabbageandribs1875]

what a lovely individual his mother was :agree: i read somewhere else the DoE had three sisters, ALL married to Nazi officers

We speak on the podcast today about Princess Alice the DoE mother who started a holy order and hid Jews from the nazis during WWII “a nun who smoked and played canasta” during the war she had sons in law fighting for Germany and a son (Phillip) in British navy.

She was a remarkable woman, who worked for Red Cross and handed out food parcels, fought off eminent men who told her she was mentally ill, left a sanitarium, raised money for the poor and generally lived her life how she wanted, I am fascinated by her.See less

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/172735121_308880837263593_6618908845422177079_n.jp g?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=PGwpRiw8Td8AX_4SX_y&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=e92dea8667e62be703d7b17c2e0856a2&oe=6095F884

[Pretty Boy]

what a lovely individual his mother was :agree: i read somewhere else the DoE had three sisters, ALL married to Nazi officers

We speak on the podcast today about Princess Alice the DoE mother who started a holy order and hid Jews from the nazis during WWII “a nun who smoked and played canasta” during the war she had sons in law fighting for Germany and a son (Phillip) in British navy.

She was a remarkable woman, who worked for Red Cross and handed out food parcels, fought off eminent men who told her she was mentally ill, left a sanitarium, raised money for the poor and generally lived her life how she wanted, I am fascinated by her.See less

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/172735121_308880837263593_6618908845422177079_n.jp g?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=PGwpRiw8Td8AX_4SX_y&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=e92dea8667e62be703d7b17c2e0856a2&oe=6095F884

I'm sure she was honoured as Righteous Among The Nations. Not sure if that was posthumous or not.

[cabbageandribs1875]

piers changes his mind.....




https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/171309702_308843860600624_2890492191531330464_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=K10iJkJ8QJcAX_zLuIe&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=30a431c559da9d6cb39ccf5eb8e20073&oe=60976D5C


and now...

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/172740789_308843867267290_1058775138369406048_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=pGsGmPlyTQYAX9TaukJ&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=ac71864d0ed8605c9b487c2c231cba8c&oe=60996F9D

[The dalmeny]

:agree:


i don't really watch mainstream telly but i read it's been intolerable
Prince Philip death: BBC and ITV viewing figures plummet amid wall-to-wall royal coverage (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/tv/other/prince-philip-death-bbc-and-itv-viewing-figures-plummet-amid-wall-to-wall-royal-coverage/ar-BB1fvwR9?ocid=msedgntp)

Viewing figures for the BBC (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/bbc) and ITV (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/itv) collapsed after they pulled their regularly scheduled programming for wall-to-wall coverage of Prince Philip (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/prince-philip)’s death


i've been turning the Radio off every minute before the hour before the news comes on

thing is, if there was one, really good quality production I might watch it. As it is I’m watching none if it

[cabbageandribs1875]

I'm sure she was honoured as Righteous Among The Nations. Not sure if that was posthumous or not.


Princess Alice | www.yadvashem.org (https://www.yadvashem.org/righteous/stories/princess-alice.html)

died in 1984

In 1993 Yad Vashem bestowed the title of Righteous Among the Nations on Princess Alice. A year later, her children, Prince Philip – the Duke of Edinburgh – and Princess George of Hanover traveled to Yad Vashem and planted the tree in her honor. During the ceremony, Prince Philip said:

[hibsbollah]

piers changes his mind.....




https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/171309702_308843860600624_2890492191531330464_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=K10iJkJ8QJcAX_zLuIe&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=30a431c559da9d6cb39ccf5eb8e20073&oe=60976D5C


and now...

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/172740789_308843867267290_1058775138369406048_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=pGsGmPlyTQYAX9TaukJ&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=ac71864d0ed8605c9b487c2c231cba8c&oe=60996F9D

:faf:

[cabbageandribs1875]

thing is, if there was one, really good quality production I might watch it. As it is I’m watching none if it


if you do happen to come across one, don't bother mentioning it



i still won't watch it :greengrin

[cabbageandribs1875]

:faf:


gets the stomach churning a bit :(

[lapsedhibee]

Princess Alice | www.yadvashem.org (https://www.yadvashem.org/righteous/stories/princess-alice.html)

died in 1984

In 1993 Yad Vashem bestowed the title of Righteous Among the Nations on Princess Alice. A year later, her children, Prince Philip – the Duke of Edinburgh – and Princess George of Hanover traveled to Yad Vashem and planted the tree in her honor. During the ceremony, Prince Philip said:

:I'm waiti

[hibsbollah]

gets the stomach churning a bit :(

That man is absolutely tucking shameless.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Well, let's leave the old boy to rest in peace and move on from the tweet etc. I look forward to the day we can leave the monarchy to rest in peace. Who knows, perhaps one day we plebs will be given a vote on its abolition.

[Jones28]

piers changes his mind.....




https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/171309702_308843860600624_2890492191531330464_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=K10iJkJ8QJcAX_zLuIe&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=30a431c559da9d6cb39ccf5eb8e20073&oe=60976D5C


and now...

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/172740789_308843867267290_1058775138369406048_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=pGsGmPlyTQYAX9TaukJ&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=ac71864d0ed8605c9b487c2c231cba8c&oe=60996F9D

Another of the “toss a coin and write up heads and tails” brigade.

[Jones28]

That man is absolutely tucking shameless.

It was written 2 ducking years ago 😂😂😂

[WeeRussell]

That man is absolutely tucking shameless.

Horrible, slimey, sycophantic, attention-seeking git. How he makes my skin crawl with ease.

[Colr]

Horrible, slimey, sycophantic, attention-seeking git. How he makes my skin crawl with ease.

Think the Alex Salmond thread is elsewhere.

[Jones28]

Horrible, slimey, sycophantic, attention-seeking git. How he makes my skin crawl with ease.

First sentence should be a thread title

[Up The Bracket]

The less racists in the world the better, society is a much better place without him.

The fact Scottish football is affected by this is archaic and laughable, going to paste a post from pie and Bovril that words the situation much better than I possibly can below.

I see the usual sycophantic twats are giving it "All those saying they don't care sure seem to care!"
Well, I don't care that he's dead. I don't care that people are sad about it. What I do care about is that, for me and everyone else I know that's ever lost a parent or partner, the first few days are taken up with sitting in a GP's waiting room for a death certificate, taking it to the register office, going to the funeral directors, checking insurances and bank accounts to make sure you can pay for what's coming next, booking and paying for a reception, contacting dozens of people to let them know and doing a hundred other chores. If you're poor it means doing these things without a car and at a cost to yourself that you can ill afford. You'll probably need to squeeze it in among work and other responsibilities, like looking after your children. It often involves cancelling benefits (they will absolutely come for you if you don't), clearing out a room in a care home or sheltered housing and making arrangements for other elderly relatives to get cared for.
These privileged, pampered, self-indulgent b*****ds will get all of this provided for them, and more, entirely at the expense of everyone else in the UK, including people who rely on food banks to feed their families. They have a standing army of flunkies who will take care of every last detail so that they can sit around with the grief - a luxury that none of the rest of us get to experience.
Did you know that you pay for someone to follow Prince Charles around wherever her goes carrying a red velvet cushion, which he uses whenever he sits down?
I have no sympathy and no respect for any of them or their servile subjects.
So what I'm here for is the memes and the jokes, because if we can't beat these bootlicking p***ks we might as well laugh at them.

[Allant1981]

The less racists in the world the better, society is a much better place without him.

The fact Scottish football is affected by this is archaic and laughable, going to paste a post from pie and Bovril that words the situation much better than I possibly can below.

I see the usual sycophantic twats are giving it "All those saying they don't care sure seem to care!"
Well, I don't care that he's dead. I don't care that people are sad about it. What I do care about is that, for me and everyone else I know that's ever lost a parent or partner, the first few days are taken up with sitting in a GP's waiting room for a death certificate, taking it to the register office, going to the funeral directors, checking insurances and bank accounts to make sure you can pay for what's coming next, booking and paying for a reception, contacting dozens of people to let them know and doing a hundred other chores. If you're poor it means doing these things without a car and at a cost to yourself that you can ill afford. You'll probably need to squeeze it in among work and other responsibilities, like looking after your children. It often involves cancelling benefits (they will absolutely come for you if you don't), clearing out a room in a care home or sheltered housing and making arrangements for other elderly relatives to get cared for.
These privileged, pampered, self-indulgent b*****ds will get all of this provided for them, and more, entirely at the expense of everyone else in the UK, including people who rely on food banks to feed their families. They have a standing army of flunkies who will take care of every last detail so that they can sit around with the grief - a luxury that none of the rest of us get to experience.
Did you know that you pay for someone to follow Prince Charles around wherever her goes carrying a red velvet cushion, which he uses whenever he sits down?
I have no sympathy and no respect for any of them or their servile subjects.
So what I'm here for is the memes and the jokes, because if we can't beat these bootlicking p***ks we might as well laugh at them.


You have no sympathy for someone because they have staff to help get a funeral organised or because they have money, I get that people don't think we should have a royal family but out of all the reason not to feel sympathetic towards someone losing a family member you could have picked something that makes you sound less of a twat

[Peevemor]

The less racists in the world the better, society is a much better place without him.

The fact Scottish football is affected by this is archaic and laughable, going to paste a post from pie and Bovril that words the situation much better than I possibly can below.

I see the usual sycophantic twats are giving it "All those saying they don't care sure seem to care!"
Well, I don't care that he's dead. I don't care that people are sad about it. What I do care about is that, for me and everyone else I know that's ever lost a parent or partner, the first few days are taken up with sitting in a GP's waiting room for a death certificate, taking it to the register office, going to the funeral directors, checking insurances and bank accounts to make sure you can pay for what's coming next, booking and paying for a reception, contacting dozens of people to let them know and doing a hundred other chores. If you're poor it means doing these things without a car and at a cost to yourself that you can ill afford. You'll probably need to squeeze it in among work and other responsibilities, like looking after your children. It often involves cancelling benefits (they will absolutely come for you if you don't), clearing out a room in a care home or sheltered housing and making arrangements for other elderly relatives to get cared for.
These privileged, pampered, self-indulgent b*****ds will get all of this provided for them, and more, entirely at the expense of everyone else in the UK, including people who rely on food banks to feed their families. They have a standing army of flunkies who will take care of every last detail so that they can sit around with the grief - a luxury that none of the rest of us get to experience.
Did you know that you pay for someone to follow Prince Charles around wherever her goes carrying a red velvet cushion, which he uses whenever he sits down?
I have no sympathy and no respect for any of them or their servile subjects.
So what I'm here for is the memes and the jokes, because if we can't beat these bootlicking p***ks we might as well laugh at them.
I met Prince Charles when he made a private visit to a building I was working on near Braemar. He drove himself and was accompanied by 2-3 bodyguards.

There wasn't a red velvet cushion in sight (I think someone's having you on!).

[hibstag]

Bbc, itv and channel 4 coverage was like I imagine it would be in North Korea. Same stuff on all channels, no choice. BBC 4 was a black screen with a message to switch to BBC1 for a major news report.

Yes this was weird thing they didn't need blanket coverage. On Friday night I switched on to BBC 1 at 5 to 10 and a montage of photos was running then the 10 news came on same photos running at the start and huw Edwards opening lines sounding as as if it was breaking news of his passing no acknowledgement of the fact they'd been running the story blanket since 12 that morning.

[JimBHibees]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/prince-philip-quotes-jokes-gaffes-b1829205.html

Interesting collection of many of his supposed gaffes many of which I had never heard of. Some absolute shockers to be honest.

Certainly had an interesting life. Didn't realise all of his four sisters married German princes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Philip,_Duke_of_Edinburgh

[lord bunberry]

I met Prince Charles when he made a private visit to a building I was working on near Braemar. He drove himself and was accompanied by 2-3 bodyguards.

There wasn't a red velvet cushion in sight (I think someone's having you on!).
He didn’t have the piles then though.

[Peevemor]

He didn’t have the piles then though.Maybe. I didn't think to ask.

[Pretty Boy]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/prince-philip-quotes-jokes-gaffes-b1829205.html

Interesting collection of many of his supposed gaffes many of which I had never heard of. Some absolute shockers to be honest.

Certainly had an interesting life. Didn't realise all of his four sisters married German princes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Philip,_Duke_of_Edinburgh

A few proper shockers there. He seems to have had a very rational dislike of Elton John and Tom Jones though. And the 'just get me a beer' line did make me laugh.

[The dalmeny]

The less racists in the world the better, society is a much better place without him.

The fact Scottish football is affected by this is archaic and laughable, going to paste a post from pie and Bovril that words the situation much better than I possibly can below.

I see the usual sycophantic twats are giving it "All those saying they don't care sure seem to care!"
Well, I don't care that he's dead. I don't care that people are sad about it. What I do care about is that, for me and everyone else I know that's ever lost a parent or partner, the first few days are taken up with sitting in a GP's waiting room for a death certificate, taking it to the register office, going to the funeral directors, checking insurances and bank accounts to make sure you can pay for what's coming next, booking and paying for a reception, contacting dozens of people to let them know and doing a hundred other chores. If you're poor it means doing these things without a car and at a cost to yourself that you can ill afford. You'll probably need to squeeze it in among work and other responsibilities, like looking after your children. It often involves cancelling benefits (they will absolutely come for you if you don't), clearing out a room in a care home or sheltered housing and making arrangements for other elderly relatives to get cared for.
These privileged, pampered, self-indulgent b*****ds will get all of this provided for them, and more, entirely at the expense of everyone else in the UK, including people who rely on food banks to feed their families. They have a standing army of flunkies who will take care of every last detail so that they can sit around with the grief - a luxury that none of the rest of us get to experience.
Did you know that you pay for someone to follow Prince Charles around wherever her goes carrying a red velvet cushion, which he uses whenever he sits down?
I have no sympathy and no respect for any of them or their servile subjects.
So what I'm here for is the memes and the jokes, because if we can't beat these bootlicking p***ks we might as well laugh at them.


The poster sounds like a bit of a country gentleman, except he’s no gent

[Just Alf]

A few proper shockers there. He seems to have had a very rational dislike of Elton John and Tom Jones though. And the 'just get me a beer' line did make me laugh.John major was interviewed on Marr this morning and mentioned a lot of it was taken out of context, most of it was him being deliberately 'out there ' or anti-establishment to put folks who were nervous about meeting a royal more at ease. From the feedback I've been reading and hearing from people of all backgrounds it seemed to mostly work.



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[DaveF]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/prince-philip-quotes-jokes-gaffes-b1829205.html

Interesting collection of many of his supposed gaffes many of which I had never heard of. Some absolute shockers to be honest.

Certainly had an interesting life. Didn't realise all of his four sisters married German princes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Philip,_Duke_of_Edinburgh

Bernard Manning would have been proud of most of them 😂

[Hibernia&Alba]

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That is brilliant :top marks:top marks

[Sir David Gray]

That is brilliant :top marks:top marks

It's fake.

[Hibernia&Alba]

It's fake.

Aww naw. Still funny :greengrin

[Sir David Gray]

Aww naw. Still funny :greengrin

Thought it was real to begin with until I went to the FBI's page and couldn't find it!

[Haymaker]

Thought it was real to begin with until I went to the FBI's page and couldn't find it!

I know a few members (current and former) of that three lettered organization and it is precisely their thoughts though.

[Keith_M]

Apologies if this has already been posted but I though it was worth a thread of it's own.


Patrick Harvie Raises Issues Of Extreme Wealth And Privilege At Holyrood 'Tribute' To Prince Phillip (https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19226499.patrick-harvie-raises-prince-philips-extreme-wealth-privilege-holyrood-tribute/)


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[Hibernia&Alba]

Apologies if this has already been posted but I though it was worth a thread of it's own.


Patrick Harvie Raises Issues Of Extreme Wealth And Privilege At Holyrood 'Tribute' To Prince Phillip (https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19226499.patrick-harvie-raises-prince-philips-extreme-wealth-privilege-holyrood-tribute/)


:not worth

Wee Paddy is a good guy and the Greens a much needed progressive voice.

[bigwheel]

Wonder why the establishment and the media seem to be so out of line with public opinion on this ..most people I know seem to be largely non plussed about this death .....

[Hibby Bairn]

Wonder why the establishment and the media seem to be so out of line with public opinion on this ..most people I know seem to be largely non plussed about this death .....

Imo because they live in a bubble immune from the realities of "normal" life. Public schools, Oxbridge, cocooned in a world that existed 75 years ago, military contexts, Queen and Country etc.

The rest of us are binge watching soaps, Ant & Dec, shopping in Aldi and most generally trying to make ends meet.

My granny would have been all over the coverage 40 years ago. But people and Britain have largely moved on from the post war connection with the Royal Family.

The BBC and our UK govt haven't. Stuck in a time warp for a "glorious" period they still fawn over.

[bigwheel]

Imo because they live in a bubble immune from the realities of "normal" life. Public schools, Oxbridge, cocooned in a world that existed 75 years ago, military contexts, Queen and Country etc.

The rest of us are binge watching soaps, Ant & Dec, shopping in Aldi and most generally trying to make ends meet.

My granny would have been all over the coverage 40 years ago. But people and Britain have largely moved on from the post war connection with the Royal Family.

The BBC and our UK got haven't. Stuck in a time warp for a "glorious" period they still fawn over.

Thanks for that. Great poignant summary imho [emoji106]

[Hibby Bairn]

Apologies if this has already been posted but I though it was worth a thread of it's own.


Patrick Harvie Raises Issues Of Extreme Wealth And Privilege At Holyrood 'Tribute' To Prince Phillip (https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19226499.patrick-harvie-raises-prince-philips-extreme-wealth-privilege-holyrood-tribute/)


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Don't know why but I just despise Harvie.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Don't know why but I just despise Harvie.

What's he done that you find so terrible?

[Santa Cruz]

Don't know why but I just despise Harvie.

Can't take to him at all either. Really like Alison Johnstone though.

[cabbageandribs1875]

hopefully Patrick Harvey gets re-elected, preferably in place of a British party Scottish Branch Candidate :agree:


thoroughly enjoy listening to him, puts his country first as well :agree:

[JimBHibees]

Don't know why but I just despise Harvie.

Personally think he speaks very well and with some passion

[heretoday]

Don't know why but I just despise Harvie.

Piggy-backs the SNP. No offence like.

[tamig]

Wonder why the establishment and the media seem to be so out of line with public opinion on this ..most people I know seem to be largely non plussed about this death .....

What public opinion are you talking about? And which part of the UK are you basing it on? There are plenty who still worship the royals.

[neil7908]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/prince-philip-quotes-jokes-gaffes-b1829205.html

Interesting collection of many of his supposed gaffes many of which I had never heard of. Some absolute shockers to be honest.

Certainly had an interesting life. Didn't realise all of his four sisters married German princes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Philip,_Duke_of_Edinburgh

This is not a pop at you but I get frustrated that the best the media can come up with is "gaffes".

Certainly some fit into that category but others are just straight out racist. If Bernard Manning said them we wouldn't be talking about legendary wit or dry sense of humour.

And like all those of privilege, my main problem is no one would dare say anything to him. The example below sticks out for me, along with all the racism:

32. "You bloody silly fool!" To an elderly car park attendant who made the mistake of not recognising him at Cambridge University in 1997.

Happy to dish out his brand of humour but quick to anger if one of the plebs dares step out of line.

I find the whole Royal family nauseating and the media in the last few days has been a joke, especially given 150k souls, many younger than Philip, have lost their lives prematurely in the last year.

I just find myself more and more disconnected with the UK as time goes on.

[bigwheel]

What public opinion are you talking about? And which part of the UK are you basing it on? There are plenty who still worship the royals.

I’m sure there are, but nowhere near the levels that there were previously ...over 100,000 complaints to the BBC over too much coverage would be an indication that it is a widespread view - a UK TV record of complaints


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That map will have the Huns both devastated and seething in equal measure.

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I saw that study a few years ago. The colour representation is misleading - ALL regions of the UK are pro-royal, the ones in pink are just less pro-royal than the average.

What's up with North Aberdeenshire?

[Andy74]

I saw that study a few years ago. The colour representation is misleading - ALL regions of the UK are pro-royal, the ones in pink are just less pro-royal than the average.

What's up with North Aberdeenshire?

Are there actual people there or is just a big royal hunting ground round Balmoral? 😂

[Hibernia&Alba]

I saw that study a few years ago. The colour representation is misleading - ALL regions of the UK are pro-royal, the ones in pink are just less pro-royal than the average.

What's up with North Aberdeenshire?

99 per cent of the population are sheep and couldn't respond.

[JeMeSouviens]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ey69nUNXIAAbHWh?format=jpg&name=large

[AltheHibby]

An American view. It's clueless as you would expect.

"Well when someone is close to 100 years of age, there is no tragedy. The tragedy is that the Queen and Prince Philip refused to speak out publicly when the UK was going down the drain. And now it is a Fascist/Communist country which has been taken over by foreign and internal enemies. No real monarch would have silently stood by while traitors ruled the roost. The monarchy itself was an anachronism, and should have ended when Canada became an independent country."

[wookie70]

An American view. It's clueless as you would expect.

"Well when someone is close to 100 years of age, there is no tragedy. The tragedy is that the Queen and Prince Philip refused to speak out publicly when the UK was going down the drain. And now it is a Fascist/Communist country which has been taken over by foreign and internal enemies. No real monarch would have silently stood by while traitors ruled the roost. The monarchy itself was an anachronism, and should have ended when Canada became an independent country."

Much in that I agree with although I would never expect the Monarchy to do anything positive in terms of the political process. The Queen to be fair has done her best to stay clear of not obstructing democracy. The Tory Leader has done a good enough job of that without any Royal intervention.

[Killiehibbie]

Much in that I agree with although I would never expect the Monarchy to do anything positive in terms of the political process. The Queen to be fair has done her best to stay clear of not obstructing democracy. The Tory Leader has done a good enough job of that without any Royal intervention.

Apart from the 100's of times her and Charles have interfered to suit their interests.

[Bristolhibby]

Much in that I agree with although I would never expect the Monarchy to do anything positive in terms of the political process. The Queen to be fair has done her best to stay clear of not obstructing democracy. The Tory Leader has done a good enough job of that without any Royal intervention.

TBF Monarchy is the very definition of conservatism. It’s whole ideal is there’s a person who is better than you by virtue of who one of their parents are.

The Bloody anthem of the U.K. is asking for God (a conceptual entity) to persevere the Queen!

Nonsense. Sooner they (or we) are shot of them the better.

J

[lapsedhibee]

The Bloody anthem of the U.K. is asking for God (a conceptual entity) to persevere the Queen!



Fair enough, she's the Queen of Leith as well as everywhere else.

[Colr]

What about the purvey? And I don’t mean Prince Andrew (you kind of have to say it in a southern English accent)

[CMurdoch]

What public opinion are you talking about? And which part of the UK are you basing it on? There are plenty who still worship the royals.

In all honesty I have never known any straight man to worship the Royals.
When you see any parade they are involved in they are attended by women and tourists.

When the Queen dies I can't see the Royals being box office anymore.
Charles will prop it up for a while but the direction of travel will be very much down.

[Hibs Class]

In all honesty I have never known any straight man to worship the Royals.
When you see any parade they are involved in they are attended by women and tourists.

When the Queen dies I can't see the Royals being box office anymore.
Charles will prop it up for a while but the direction of travel will be very much down.

I think Charles will be a big step back in comparison to the Queen, & perception/acceptance may also be affected by whether or not Camilla takes the title of queen, but there seems more appetite for a William monarchy.

[Scouse Hibee]

I think Charles will be a big step back in comparison to the Queen, & perception/acceptance may also be affected by whether or not Camilla takes the title of queen, but there seems more appetite for a William monarchy.

Camillla will not take the title of Queen, already confirmed some time ago that her title will be Princess should Charles become King.

[Hibrandenburg]

Camillla will not take the title of Queen, already confirmed some time ago that her title will be Princess should Charles become King.

Jeez, some fathers will have to rethink their nicknames for their daughters.