View Full Version : Announcement Hibernian Supporters: Hampden £100k Campaign
Daniel 1875
02-01-2021, 12:34 PM
Hibernian Supporters are encouraging fans to consider donating the cost of their day out at Hampden for the League Cup semi final against St Johnstone to the club via a one off donation to Hibernian Supporters.
The campaign is bold and aims to raise £100,000 for the football budget throughout the month of January, for context this is around five times the amount contributed on a monthly basis.
Supporters who already contribute to Hibernian Supporters can make a one off donation by simply logging in to their account here (https://hiberniansupporters.co.uk/my-account/) and scrolling down to the 'Make a One-Off Donation' drop down.
Fans who do not already contribute can make a one-off payment by clicking here (https://hiberniansupporters.co.uk/donate/) and scrolling down to the 'Let's Give to Hibs' section and then clicking the 'Single payments' tab.
Everyone who donates £25 or more throughout the month will be added to the prize draw to win a signed shirt.
The information is on social media (Twitter (https://twitter.com/hfcsupporters/status/1345330864239104006?s=20) and Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/hfcsupporters)) and every like, share, retweet and link in group chats will go a long way to help us achieve the ambitious goal.
We'll aim to share periodic updates on this thread as the month goes on.
Let's make sure the club benefit from reaching another cup semi final - hopefully we'll have a final to look forward to and a significant sum of money added to the manager's budget by the end of January.
Already signed up?
Click here (http://bit.ly/hampden100k1) to log in and scroll to the 'Make a one-off payment' drop down menu to select the amount you'd like to donate
Not signed up?
Click here (http://bit.ly/hampden100k2) and scroll to the 'Single payments' tab to make a one-off donation via GoCardless instruction to your bank.
Want to pay by debit/credit card?
Click here (http://bit.ly/hampden100k3) to make a one off donation by credit or debit card via Stripe.
DaveF
02-01-2021, 12:51 PM
Done.
A Hi-Bee
02-01-2021, 01:40 PM
We the supporters of this great old club are the ones who really can make a difference, i shall be making a donation that I feel I may be able to afford.
Quality players cost and we need some quality players, to be able to push on.
:thumbsup:
DaveF
02-01-2021, 02:31 PM
Can I have my £25 back 😲
Gerard
02-01-2021, 03:35 PM
Can I have my £25 back 😲
:wink:
Scotty Leither
02-01-2021, 03:37 PM
Serious question, Daniel or Jim Adie - what input/backing do you get from the Board for HSL?
DaveF
04-01-2021, 11:07 AM
Bump
matty_f
04-01-2021, 11:19 AM
Bump
Cheers for bumping this, Dave.
Would love to see Hibs fans get behind this - we’ve got a real chance of silverware and if we, as a support, can do our bit (and more) then that chance gets even bigger.
Keith_M
04-01-2021, 11:27 AM
Just purely out of curiosity... Have you approached the club to see if they can assist in any way?
I remember there were legal issues re club involvement when the money being raised was to be put towards shares but I wouldn't imagine this is an issue now.
:dunno:
I think this is a great idea and it would be good to take advantage of every avenue possible.
:aok:
p.s. Made my donation
OfficialHSL
04-01-2021, 11:42 AM
Serious question, Daniel or Jim Adie - what input/backing do you get from the Board for HSL?
Scotty Leither
Before answering your question can I first of all record the HSL Board's gratitude to both Daniel and Gavin for their huge support over the last number of months. They have provided a great boost to our communications during what has been a very difficult period.
We have been a little quiet over the last number of months as we didn't feel it would have been appropriate to be pushing any particular campaigns during a period when folks are fighting for their lives and livelihoods. That remains the case, however we felt that now was the time to try to push a little and help Jack Ross achieve our aim of qualifying for Europe.
We are getting support from the Club but they too are limited by resources but you will see evidence throughout the month of their input.
Thank you so much to all those who have already made their one off donations. We intend to give regular updates on the "banked" amounts as we receive them.
Happy to respond to any other questions.
Hibernian Supporters
OfficialHSL
04-01-2021, 11:47 AM
[QUOTE=Keith_M;6407416]Just purely out of curiosity... Have you approached the club to see if they can assist in any way?
I remember there were legal issues re club involvement when the money being raised was to be put towards shares but I wouldn't imagine this is an issue now.
:dunno:
I think this is a great idea and it would be good to take advantage of every avenue possible.
:aok:
p.s. Made my donation[/QUOTE
Keith
Can we just confirm that the Club can and do assist us from time to time. Not sure what legal issues people are thinking about.
Hibernian Supporters
Keith_M
04-01-2021, 11:48 AM
Thanks for the response.
Not trying to be overly critical (and certainly not a criticism of HSL) but I'd imagine it wouldn't be too much effort on the part of the club to post something on their website about HSL, even if it's just acknowledging the donations
Allant1981
04-01-2021, 12:00 PM
Thanks for the response.
Not trying to be overly critical (and certainly not a criticism of HSL) but I'd imagine it wouldn't be too much effort on the part of the club to post something on their website about HSL, even if it's just acknowledging the donations
Think the club website did post something a few months ago about hsl and the money given(might be wrong though)
Daniel 1875
04-01-2021, 12:01 PM
Thanks for the response.
Not trying to be overly critical (and certainly not a criticism of HSL) but I'd imagine it wouldn't be too much effort on the part of the club to post something on their website about HSL, even if it's just acknowledging the donations
Hi Keith, wheels are in motion for this and we had an email from the club first thing this morning regarding the Hampden £100k drive.
matty_f
04-01-2021, 12:04 PM
Thanks for the response.
Not trying to be overly critical (and certainly not a criticism of HSL) but I'd imagine it wouldn't be too much effort on the part of the club to post something on their website about HSL, even if it's just acknowledging the donations
Would definitely be good to see more. :agree:
Worth pointing out the ad that runs on Hibs TV on matchdays as well, that's excellent - @hiberniansupporters, could that be tweaked to reflect the promotion?
Peevemor
04-01-2021, 01:08 PM
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04-01-2021, 01:43 PM
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That's on Twitter as well :agree:
Daniel 1875
04-01-2021, 01:53 PM
The club have launched the campaign on the official site and on their social media channels.
Link to the website story is here (https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/hibernian-supporters-hampden-100k-campaign).
Let's spread the word and hope we can raise some significant funds for the football budget that would otherwise have gone to the SPFL and on buses/trains/beers in normal times.
CraigHibee
04-01-2021, 01:59 PM
i'll definitely be contributing to this as well
JimBHibees
04-01-2021, 02:04 PM
Sounds a great campaign. Contributed and hope we reach the total. Missing the trips to Hampden as no doubt will the club be commercially.
Keith_M
04-01-2021, 02:06 PM
Hi Keith, wheels are in motion for this and we had an email from the club first thing this morning regarding the Hampden £100k drive.
Fantastic news, Daniel. Glad to hear it.
:aok:
weecounty hibby
04-01-2021, 02:07 PM
Quick question. If you donate £50 do you enter the draw twice, £75 thrice etc?
Daniel 1875
04-01-2021, 02:31 PM
Quick question. If you donate £50 do you enter the draw twice, £75 thrice etc?
We've kept it to one entry per contribution over £25 regardless of total amount so we can stay in line with the 'donate what you'd have spent' idea.
Conscious of appearing to turn it into a raffle at £25 a ticket when any donation, large or small, will be hugely appreciated. I know there have been HS initiatives in the past that have given extra entries for multiples of £X but this time we want to offer everyone who donated any amount over £25 the chance to win the shirt.
Ringothedog
04-01-2021, 03:03 PM
Have just ended up setting up a new HSL account for this and any future initiatives. It looks like I will have 2 x £25 being paid as I seem to have created 2 payments 😂
Roxyhibee
04-01-2021, 05:13 PM
Wee bump.
Just bought my semi ticket to add to my existing monthly contribution. More cash for the Hibees. Easy done.
penihibs
04-01-2021, 07:20 PM
Just donated,gave me that unbelievable day on May 2016.
Would definitely have been at this semi so a no brainer for me.
GGTTH 💚🇳🇬
Lang Toun hibby
04-01-2021, 08:37 PM
Just donated,gave me that unbelievable day on May 2016.
Would definitely have been at this semi so a no brainer for me.
GGTTH 💚🇳🇬
Donated today, the only way to get better players is to pay more.
Henderson2Del
04-01-2021, 08:45 PM
Donated today, the only way to get better players is to pay more.
Whilst not wanting to dampen this initiative that’s not true. Better recruitment would also surely get better players?
Franck Le God
04-01-2021, 08:52 PM
Whilst not wanting to dampen this initiative that’s not true. Better recruitment would also surely get better players?
Like it or loathe it football's a game of finance I'm afraid. More money = more success
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Wilson
05-01-2021, 04:26 PM
Like it or loathe it football's a game of finance I'm afraid. More money = more success
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You are right in general but throwing money at the problem doesn't necessarily guarantee success. Hearts were a good example of how to use a lot of money badly and we are guilty ourselves of having greater resources than some clubs and perhaps not getting value for our investment.
I think the club are using the money well just now though and players like Magennis and Nisbet are sound long term investments. If the club are using the money well then it makes sense to try and give them more.
JohnMcM
05-01-2021, 04:40 PM
We've kept it to one entry per contribution over £25 regardless of total amount so we can stay in line with the 'donate what you'd have spent' idea.
Conscious of appearing to turn it into a raffle at £25 a ticket when any donation, large or small, will be hugely appreciated. I know there have been HS initiatives in the past that have given extra entries for multiples of £X but this time we want to offer everyone who donated any amount over £25 the chance to win the shirt.
I donated a sum of money on 22/12/20. It was before this appeal was launched but the reason was because it was a saving of money by not attending the semi-final.
I won't be in the raffle though 😢 :grr::brickwall
Franck Le God
05-01-2021, 04:50 PM
You are right in general but throwing money at the problem doesn't necessarily guarantee success. Hearts were a good example of how to use a lot of money badly and we are guilty ourselves of having greater resources than some clubs and perhaps not getting value for our investment.
I think the club are using the money well just now though and players like Magennis and Nisbet are sound long term investments. If the club are using the money well then it makes sense to try and give them more.
Fair comment, I'd agree that money doesn't necessarily guarantee success (hearts, Dundee etc).
I think we're seeing a shift back to players being investments as opposed to knee-jerk quick fixes, which I'm all for.
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kennyh
05-01-2021, 04:56 PM
At the start of the season I had been buying Happy Hibee and other raffles when they came up but haven't put a penny in for a while now.
This was a good prompt - donation made and i will be back buying the Happy Hibee and such like again.
I cant see 4000 odd punters paying in but lets hope I am wrong.
Gerard
05-01-2021, 05:32 PM
I think it is a good way to help our club at a time when the club needs money to improve the team.:wink::cb:devil:
Gogs07
05-01-2021, 08:03 PM
Ticket bought!
HFC93
05-01-2021, 11:14 PM
£25 paid. First time I've donated towards HSL.
BlackSheep
06-01-2021, 08:51 AM
At the start of the season I had been buying Happy Hibee and other raffles when they came up but haven't put a penny in for a while now.
This was a good prompt - donation made and i will be back buying the Happy Hibee and such like again.
I cant see 4000 odd punters paying in but lets hope I am wrong.
£25 is the minimum to reach the 100K goal... those with the means may want to donate more.... 400 is the number if everyone only donates the ticket price.
I think this is a great initiative regardless if we reach the target or not, any some over and above the average 20K HSL has been donating to the club is fantastic.
We wouldn't see players at Hibs like Nisbet this year if it weren't for causes like HSL among others.
Keith_M
06-01-2021, 08:55 AM
£25 is the minimum to reach the 100K goal... those with the means may want to donate more.... 400 is the number if everyone only donates the ticket price.
....
I live within walking distance of Hampden, so my donation equivalent to the cost of travel was pretty small.
Plus I'm cutting down on my alcohol intake, so that saved me a few quid.
wandering_hibee
06-01-2021, 08:58 AM
£25 is the minimum to reach the 100K goal... those with the means may want to donate more.... 400 is the number if everyone only donates the ticket price.
I think this is a great initiative regardless if we reach the target or not, any some over and above the average 20K HSL has been donating to the club is fantastic.
We wouldn't see players at Hibs like Nisbet this year if it weren't for causes like HSL among others.
I think that you mean 4,000
BlackSheep
06-01-2021, 11:30 AM
I think that you mean 4,000
yes, i meant 4000.... :)
mutley
06-01-2021, 11:39 AM
Apologies if this has already been answered, but is there any update on how the fund is coming along?
As fund gets closer to the target, some fans might be encouraged to help get it over the line .
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matty_f
06-01-2021, 11:39 AM
yes, i meant 4000.... :)
Which is about 25% of what we might take through to Hampden.
It's definitely doable but probably needs a few things to happen:
- folk to know about the initiative and why it's happening
- people who can afford to pay more than £25 doing so (I loved the message above from the person who covered the cost of someone else who might not be in a position to afford to donate their ticket money)
- people encouraging others to do it
These initiatives always work best through word of mouth and a gathering of momentum - if you've donated, post on here, tweet about it, stick it on Facebook, people will join in.
Peevemor
06-01-2021, 11:41 AM
Which is about 25% of what we might take through to Hampden.
It's definitely doable but probably needs a few things to happen:
- folk to know about the initiative and why it's happening
- people who can afford to pay more than £25 doing so (I loved the message above from the person who covered the cost of someone else who might not be in a position to afford to donate their ticket money)
- people encouraging others to do it
These initiatives always work best through word of mouth and a gathering of momentum - if you've donated, post on here, tweet about it, stick it on Facebook, people will join in.
Nothing works better than the feel good factor which, unfortunately, we've lost a bit over the past couple of weeks. A decent signing or two and a couple of good results will make a huge difference IMO.
matty_f
06-01-2021, 11:42 AM
Nothing works better than the feel good factor which, unfortunately, we've lost a bit over the past couple of weeks. A decent signing or two and a couple of good results will make a huge difference IMO.
Yeah, that's also true.
Daniel 1875
06-01-2021, 11:49 AM
Apologies if this has already been answered, but is there any update on how the fund is coming along?
As fund gets closer to the target, some fans might be encouraged to help get it over the line .
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Not yet but hope to have an update in the next couple of days.
The way the payments system works it takes a few days for the payment to be generated and come across from the user’s bank. For instance I donated on the website on Monday but the payment won’t be added to the ‘kitty’ until Thursday.
Totally agree the more we can update the numbers the more likely we’ll see others join in.
Alex1875
06-01-2021, 01:07 PM
Hibernian Supporters are encouraging fans to consider donating the cost of their day out at Hampden for the League Cup semi final against St Johnstone to the club via a one off donation to Hibernian Supporters.
The campaign is bold and aims to raise £100,000 for the football budget throughout the month of January, for context this is around five times the amount contributed on a monthly basis.
Supporters who already contribute to Hibernian Supporters can make a one off donation by simply logging in to their account here (https://hiberniansupporters.co.uk/my-account/) and scrolling down to the 'Make a One-Off Donation' drop down.
Fans who do not already contribute can make a one-off payment by clicking here (https://hiberniansupporters.co.uk/donate/) and scrolling down to the 'Let's Give to Hibs' section and then clicking the 'Single payments' tab.
Everyone who donates £25 or more throughout the month will be added to the prize draw to win a signed shirt.
The information is on social media (Twitter (https://twitter.com/hfcsupporters/status/1345330864239104006?s=20) and Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/hfcsupporters)) and every like, share, retweet and link in group chats will go a long way to help us achieve the ambitious goal.
We'll aim to share periodic updates on this thread as the month goes on.
Let's make sure the club benefit from reaching another cup semi final - hopefully we'll have a final to look forward to and a significant sum of money added to the manager's budget by the end of January.
Brilliant idea - that's me donated! :flag:
matty_f
07-01-2021, 01:38 PM
I’m delighted to say that hibs.net are backing this campaign. We’d usually put on buses for a Hampden semi final, so we’ve stuck £500 towards the total today.
It’s in everyone’s interests for this to be a success, we’re pleased to play our part.
Vault Boy
07-01-2021, 01:39 PM
Mon the buses 💚
JimBHibees
07-01-2021, 01:44 PM
I’m delighted to say that hibs.net are backing this campaign. We’d usually put on buses for a Hampden semi final, so we’ve stuck £500 towards the total today.
It’s in everyone’s interests for this to be a success, we’re pleased to play our part.
Well done that is excellent. :aok:
Daniel 1875
07-01-2021, 01:47 PM
I’m delighted to say that hibs.net are backing this campaign. We’d usually put on buses for a Hampden semi final, so we’ve stuck £500 towards the total today.
It’s in everyone’s interests for this to be a success, we’re pleased to play our part.
Great stuff Matty!
OfficialHSL
07-01-2021, 02:13 PM
I’m delighted to say that hibs.net are backing this campaign. We’d usually put on buses for a Hampden semi final, so we’ve stuck £500 towards the total today.
It’s in everyone’s interests for this to be a success, we’re pleased to play our part.
Matty
Please extend our thanks from everyone at Hibernian Supporters. The Net is a great Forum for a wide range of opinions, but we all have one thing in common, we want the best for our football team. We all know that money does not guarantee success, but it can help.
We've had a promising start to this initiative, but we need to try and get this message to many more Hibs supporters. Can we repeat the message that you don't have to join HSL to make a donation, just click the button "donation only". We all want to see glorious European games again so let's try and hit this target for January.
Once again, many thanks to all .Netters.
Hibernian Supporters
Pagan Hibernia
07-01-2021, 02:34 PM
I’m delighted to say that hibs.net are backing this campaign. We’d usually put on buses for a Hampden semi final, so we’ve stuck £500 towards the total today.
It’s in everyone’s interests for this to be a success, we’re pleased to play our part.
That is absolutely fantastic.
Stanton Spence
07-01-2021, 02:53 PM
I’m delighted to say that hibs.net are backing this campaign. We’d usually put on buses for a Hampden semi final, so we’ve stuck £500 towards the total today.
It’s in everyone’s interests for this to be a success, we’re pleased to play our part.Brilliant stuff matty [emoji1303]
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Power
07-01-2021, 03:10 PM
I’m delighted to say that hibs.net are backing this campaign. We’d usually put on buses for a Hampden semi final, so we’ve stuck £500 towards the total today.
It’s in everyone’s interests for this to be a success, we’re pleased to play our part.
Wow - what a Fantastic donation. Respect to all involved in that gesture.
Vive le Hibs.net 💚
Keith_M
07-01-2021, 03:27 PM
I’m delighted to say that hibs.net are backing this campaign. We’d usually put on buses for a Hampden semi final, so we’ve stuck £500 towards the total today.
It’s in everyone’s interests for this to be a success, we’re pleased to play our part.
Well done DotNet.
No Country for Old Men? I beg to differ
:wink:
Daniel 1875
07-01-2021, 04:33 PM
A new campaign video is now on social media here (https://twitter.com/hfcsupporters/status/1347234042375151617?s=20) for sharing and sending to friends and family!
Vault Boy
07-01-2021, 04:56 PM
A new campaign video is now on social media here (https://twitter.com/hfcsupporters/status/1347234042375151617?s=20) for sharing and sending to friends and family!
Geezo, whoever made that must be incredibly good looking!
In all seriousness, put a good few hours into this one, so if anyone feels like giving it a watch and sharing it around, I'd really appreciate - as would the HSL team. 🙏
Geezo, whoever made that must be incredibly good looking!
In all seriousness, put a good few hours into this one, so if anyone feels like giving it a watch and sharing it around, I'd really appreciate - as would the HSL team. 🙏
Absolutely superb, it made me swell up watching it, full of emotion for the club & as a result, I'm in.
On another matter, your old man must be something special to pass down those skills!
jacomo
07-01-2021, 07:38 PM
I’m delighted to say that hibs.net are backing this campaign. We’d usually put on buses for a Hampden semi final, so we’ve stuck £500 towards the total today.
It’s in everyone’s interests for this to be a success, we’re pleased to play our part.
Great stuff.
hibbie02
07-01-2021, 10:01 PM
All done!
FifeHibs
07-01-2021, 10:30 PM
How are we doing against target fundings
DanishJohn
08-01-2021, 08:03 AM
See that Marine are selling virtual tickets for game against Spurs. Their ground holds approx 3000 fans.
The money raised will help their club across the board.
Come on Hibbys, think we could do with our support !
Lets all contribute the £25 and raise the £100,000 through HSL
:flag:
superfurryhibby
08-01-2021, 08:07 AM
How are we doing against target fundings
It would be good to know, although potentially a bit embarrassing. Either way, there must be some way of getting a rolling total up. It might incentivise more fans to join in.
Daniel 1875
08-01-2021, 09:49 AM
It would be good to know, although potentially a bit embarrassing. Either way, there must be some way of getting a rolling total up. It might incentivise more fans to join in.
We’re waiting for today’s GoCardless and Stripe figures to go into the bank. Worth nothing it takes 4/5 days for cash contributed on the website to actually land in the bank so today’s number is likely to only take into account payments made up to Monday 4th January.
Daniel 1875
08-01-2021, 10:31 AM
Folks I should say if anyone is having any issues making their donations please let me know via PM and I'll do my best to help out.
A reminder of ways to pay below:
Already signed up?
Click here (http://bit.ly/hampden100k1) to log in and scroll to the 'Make a one-off payment' drop down menu to select the amount you'd like to donate
Not signed up?
Click here (http://bit.ly/hampden100k2) and scroll to the 'Single payments' tab to make a one-off donation via GoCardless instruction to your bank.
Want to pay by debit/credit card?
Click here (http://bit.ly/hampden100k3) to make a one off donation by credit or debit card via Stripe.
:flag:
Barney McGrew
08-01-2021, 11:42 AM
Donation made :aok:
hibbydad
08-01-2021, 11:57 AM
Donation made :aok:
Donation made
Daniel 1875
08-01-2021, 04:48 PM
The current donation total for January sits at £5131.
Having spoken with Jim the one-off donations can take 5 working days to clear, therefore this figure is largely made up of regular DD payments.
Hopefully next week we’ll have a better idea of the running total with some of the one-off payments starting to filter through.
The updates here and the sharing on social media are all helping us massively - we’ve got a great chance to make a significant difference this month.
superfurryhibby
08-01-2021, 05:10 PM
I thought had made a donation. Checked my bank transactions and not the case.
I went on the site. Clicked single donation, clicked the size of the sum and filled out my name etc. It keeps taking me to a direct debit link?
Chuck Rhoades
08-01-2021, 06:08 PM
It’s still very clunky Daniel. Why can’t a simple PayPal or GoFundMe page be set up?
Daniel 1875
08-01-2021, 06:19 PM
I thought had made a donation. Checked my bank transactions and not the case.
I went on the site. Clicked single donation, clicked the size of the sum and filled out my name etc. It keeps taking me to a direct debit link?
You should have received an email to confirm you've made a donation. It can take 3/4 working days to come out of your bank so it won't show up as a transaction or even a pending payment straight away. The email should contain the date which it expects to take payment from your bank so I'd advise waiting until that date to make sure it comes out as expected otherwise you may inadvertently make more than one donation.
The direct debit is simply an instruction to GoCardless to take the donation from your bank - it doesn't mean it'll be a recurring payment if you've clicked the single payment link.
superfurryhibby
08-01-2021, 06:23 PM
You should have received an email to confirm you've made a donation. It can take 3/4 working days to come out of your bank so it won't show up as a transaction or even a pending payment straight away. The email should contain the date which it expects to take payment from your bank so I'd advise waiting until that date to make sure it comes out as expected otherwise you may inadvertently make more than one donation.
The direct debit is simply an instruction to GoCardless to take the donation from your bank - it doesn't mean it'll be a recurring payment if you've clicked the single payment link.
Cheers Daniel.
Daniel 1875
08-01-2021, 06:24 PM
It’s still very clunky Daniel. Why can’t a simple PayPal or GoFundMe page be set up?
GoCardless and Stripe are similar providers to PayPal. It's the system Hibernian Supporters have used for a number of years and it takes in excess of £20,000 from fans relatively smoothly every month.
It should be possible to follow the links and make a new one-off donation within a few clicks for members and non-members alike. We're happy to help with any glitches or issues - which thankfully so far have only been a handful.
All things considered don't think there's any need to abandon the system already in use and start using a new one?
OfficialHSL
08-01-2021, 07:34 PM
See that Marine are selling virtual tickets for game against Spurs. Their ground holds approx 3000 fans.
The money raised will help their club across the board.
Come on Hibbys, think we could do with our support !
Lets all contribute the £25 and raise the £100,000 through HSL
:flag:
Danish John
Thank you for your comment. It really is as simple and straight forward as this. We are hoping our supporters take the same view.
Hibernian Supporters
OfficialHSL
08-01-2021, 07:40 PM
The current donation total for January sits at £5131.
Having spoken with Jim the one-off donations can take 5 working days to clear, therefore this figure is largely made up of regular DD payments.
Hopefully next week we’ll have a better idea of the running total with some of the one-off payments starting to filter through.
The updates here and the sharing on social media are all helping us massively - we’ve got a great chance to make a significant difference this month.
Please note that we do not expect to bank the first payment from this Campaign until 12th January. This is a slightly longer delay than normal as a result of the New Year holidays. There is always a delay from the point of a supporter initiating the payment. The supporter needs to be notified of the set up, notified of the bank deduction, a delay in settlement with Go Cardless and finally a few days before the funds are passed to us. All of this is normal and experienced by the thousands of Organisations that use Go Cardless.
We will see the figures increase from next week.
Hibernian Supporters
OfficialHSL
08-01-2021, 07:44 PM
It’s still very clunky Daniel. Why can’t a simple PayPal or GoFundMe page be set up?
Chuck
We can confirm that our payment systems are all working smoothly. Can we remind everyone that a Direct Debit does not mean multiple payments. We know that most folks get the impression that a Direct Debit means payments every month, it doesn't. It simply means that the supporter has given authority to have a payment taken from their bank. Provided you have clicked the "single donation" button that is exactly what will happen. A single one off payment made by "direct debit".
Hibernian Supporters
Iggy Pope
08-01-2021, 09:09 PM
Chuck
We can confirm that our payment systems are all working smoothly. Can we remind everyone that a Direct Debit does not mean multiple payments. We know that most folks get the impression that a Direct Debit means payments every month, it doesn't. It simply means that the supporter has given authority to have a payment taken from their bank. Provided you have clicked the "single donation" button that is exactly what will happen. A single one off payment made by "direct debit".
Hibernian Supporters
Official HSL
How are you differentiating all the other random one off payments that HSL receive from those intended for this current campaign?
I know plenty of people (from experience as you’ll know) that just contribute SINGLE DONATIONS when the emotion takes them.
If it’s to be a concerted campaign to raise the money quoted why isn’t it identified so? I could throw an extra £25 at it now and you’d have no idea what it was for.
hibbysam
08-01-2021, 09:21 PM
Official HSL
How are you differentiating all the other random one off payments that HSL receive from those intended for this current campaign?
I know plenty of people (from experience as you’ll know) that just contribute SINGLE DONATIONS when the emotion takes them.
If it’s to be a concerted campaign to raise the money quoted why isn’t it identified so? I could throw an extra £25 at it now and you’d have no idea what it was for.
What difference would it make? The campaign is to raise £100k, who/where that comes from or the reason for donating doesn’t matter.
flash
08-01-2021, 09:27 PM
Official HSL
How are you differentiating all the other random one off payments that HSL receive from those intended for this current campaign?
I know plenty of people (from experience as you’ll know) that just contribute SINGLE DONATIONS when the emotion takes them.
If it’s to be a concerted campaign to raise the money quoted why isn’t it identified so? I could throw an extra £25 at it now and you’d have no idea what it was for.
Bizarre.
Daniel 1875
08-01-2021, 09:43 PM
Official HSL
How are you differentiating all the other random one off payments that HSL receive from those intended for this current campaign?
I know plenty of people (from experience as you’ll know) that just contribute SINGLE DONATIONS when the emotion takes them.
If it’s to be a concerted campaign to raise the money quoted why isn’t it identified so? I could throw an extra £25 at it now and you’d have no idea what it was for.
We are running a campaign to raise £100,000 in January. If that includes a few people who have taken a notion to make a one off payment completely independently and without knowing about the Hampden £100k drive it doesn’t really matter - all the money is still going to Hibs?
If you, or anyone else, makes a one off payment of £25 it’ll all be going to the same pot and will be helping raise the targeted amount of £100,000 in January.
superfurryhibby
08-01-2021, 09:48 PM
Chuck
We can confirm that our payment systems are all working smoothly. Can we remind everyone that a Direct Debit does not mean multiple payments. We know that most folks get the impression that a Direct Debit means payments every month, it doesn't. It simply means that the supporter has given authority to have a payment taken from their bank. Provided you have clicked the "single donation" button that is exactly what will happen. A single one off payment made by "direct debit".
Hibernian Supporters
Clarified.
That should be made clear on the website though. Anything that deters folk is a hinderance .
Great work though. Our donations make a difference, so get yer wallets open fellow Hibernians.
Chuck Rhoades
09-01-2021, 03:34 AM
Chuck
We can confirm that our payment systems are all working smoothly. Can we remind everyone that a Direct Debit does not mean multiple payments. We know that most folks get the impression that a Direct Debit means payments every month, it doesn't. It simply means that the supporter has given authority to have a payment taken from their bank. Provided you have clicked the "single donation" button that is exactly what will happen. A single one off payment made by "direct debit".
Hibernian Supporters
Appreciate the response, although feel it’s slightly defensive. Working in financial services I understand all of that; however my fear is a lot of others won’t and I know a few friends who have abandoned their journey as it can be confusing (I am trying to guide them through). There is no reason why a DDM needs to be set up for a one-off donation in this day and age - even though the way it’s set up will ensure multiple payments aren’t collected. There’s better, more user friendly, technology out there that can be used - free of charge. Also platforms where payment by card means instant clearance at both ends - PayPal being one example.
It’s not a criticism but I know how you value feedback. Short of it is, regardless of how easy you make think things are, some supporters are finding it a challenge and potential donations are being lost as a result.
JohnM1875
09-01-2021, 03:55 AM
Appreciate the response, although feel it’s slightly defensive. Working in financial services I understand all of that; however my fear is a lot of others won’t and I know a few friends who have abandoned their journey as it can be confusing (I am trying to guide them through). There is no reason why a DDM needs to be set up for a one-off donation in this day and age - even though the way it’s set up will ensure multiple payments aren’t collected. There’s better, more user friendly, technology out there that can be used - free of charge. Also platforms where payment by card means instant clearance at both ends - PayPal being one example.
It’s not a criticism but I know how you value feedback. Short of it is, regardless of how easy you make think things are, some supporters are finding it a challenge and potential donations are being lost as a result.
Fair comments.
Think the fact that almost every time there's a thread about HSL there's always folk asking questions about how to donate etc proves its causing issues and isn't as straight forward as it potentially could be.
Obviously really appreciate the time and effort you guys put in to the running and maintainence of the site! But if there's ways to make it easier then I do think there will be more payments made.
Daniel 1875
09-01-2021, 08:09 AM
Appreciate the response, although feel it’s slightly defensive. Working in financial services I understand all of that; however my fear is a lot of others won’t and I know a few friends who have abandoned their journey as it can be confusing (I am trying to guide them through). There is no reason why a DDM needs to be set up for a one-off donation in this day and age - even though the way it’s set up will ensure multiple payments aren’t collected. There’s better, more user friendly, technology out there that can be used - free of charge. Also platforms where payment by card means instant clearance at both ends - PayPal being one example.
It’s not a criticism but I know how you value feedback. Short of it is, regardless of how easy you make think things are, some supporters are finding it a challenge and potential donations are being lost as a result.
It’s possible to make a payment by card by clicking here: https://hiberniansupporters.co.uk/donate-abroad/ and using Stripe.
Pretty Boy
09-01-2021, 08:29 AM
I made 2 donations the other day. One from myself and one on behalf of the site and have to say I found it very clunky.
There were repeated issues trying to make a one off payment of £500 using the custom amount option so in the end I made 5 x £100 payments from the specified amount section (which appeared to be the max option?) through my own account instead.
I don't wish to be unduly negative on a thread that is trying to raise money for the club but I'll be totally honest and say that after the 3rd or 4th attempt, had it been my own donation and not one on behalf of the site I would have walked away. I accept a lot of people seem to have no problems making payments but there are regular queries and issues raised both on here and Twitter. It's maybe something to look at moving forward to streamline the process and ensure not even one potential donator is missed.
Anyways back on track. A decent amount raised so far and look forward to seeing regular updates as the amount grows.
Daniel 1875
09-01-2021, 08:37 AM
I made 2 donations the other day. One from myself and one on behalf of the site and have to say I found it very clunky.
There were repeated issues trying to make a one off payment of £500 using the custom amount option so in the end I made 5 x £100 payments from the specified amount section (which appeared to be the max option?) through my own account instead.
I don't wish to be unduly negative on a thread that is trying to raise money for the club but I'll be totally honest and say that after the 3rd or 4th attempt, had it been my own donation and not one on behalf of the site I would have walked away. I accept a lot of people seem to have no problems making payments but there are regular queries and issues raised both on here and Twitter. It's maybe something to look at moving forward to streamline the process and ensure not even one potential donator is missed.
Anyways back on track. A decent amount raised so far and look forward to seeing regular updates as the amount grows.
I’ve sent you a PM - will pass on the issues to the guys who manage the website.
weecounty hibby
09-01-2021, 09:10 AM
I have had my issues with HS account and Daniel managed to sort them out eventually after much effort. But I found making a one off payment very straight forward and I'm surprised at the amount of people who have had issues with it
KdyHby
09-01-2021, 09:13 AM
Appreciate the response, although feel it’s slightly defensive. Working in financial services I understand all of that; however my fear is a lot of others won’t and I know a few friends who have abandoned their journey as it can be confusing (I am trying to guide them through). There is no reason why a DDM needs to be set up for a one-off donation in this day and age - even though the way it’s set up will ensure multiple payments aren’t collected. There’s better, more user friendly, technology out there that can be used - free of charge. Also platforms where payment by card means instant clearance at both ends - PayPal being one example.
It’s not a criticism but I know how you value feedback. Short of it is, regardless of how easy you make think things are, some supporters are finding it a challenge and potential donations are being lost as a result.
Exactly the reason why I've given up trying to donate a number of times.
wallpaperman
09-01-2021, 09:34 AM
Exactly the reason why I've given up trying to donate a number of times.
Contact Daniel1875, he will help you out, don’t give up.
Not aiming this at you and I’ve said this before, and it grates me to say it, but Hearts fans always seem to find a reason to throw more money at their club, whereas Hibs fans seems to find a reason not to.
Daniel 1875
09-01-2021, 09:38 AM
Exactly the reason why I've given up trying to donate a number of times.
I’ve sent you a PM back - let me know if I can help.
Keith_M
09-01-2021, 09:43 AM
Contact Daniel1875, he will help you out, don’t give up.
Not aiming this at you and I’ve said this before, and it grates me to say it, but Hearts fans always seem to find a reason to throw more money at their club, whereas Hibs fans seems to find a reason not to.
That's not really the case, though. People have simply pointed out that some work could be done on the process of donating (and even on keeping the information up-to-date on the website) to ease the payments they wish to make.
I create incredibly complicated web sites as part of my job but I found the process a bit confusing, so I can see why others have had concerns and probably given up (e.g. it wasn't at all obvious that the DDs/SOs were definitely going to be a one-off payment, so I can understand people giving up, just in case a mistake was made)
To give FoH some credit, their process for donations... and getting the news out there to the public... is very good and has obviously reaped dividends. If we want this to work, the first thing that needs to be done is to make it as smooth and seamless as they have.
Daniel 1875
09-01-2021, 10:00 AM
That's not really the case, though. People have simply pointed out that some work could be done on the process of donating (and even on keeping the information up-to-date on the website) to ease the payments they wish to make.
I create incredibly complicated web sites as part of my job but I found the process a bit confusing, so I can see why others have had concerns and probably given up (e.g. it wasn't at all obvious that the DDs/SOs were definitely going to be a one-off payment, so I can understand people giving up, just in case a mistake was made)
To give FoH some credit, their process for donations... and getting the news out there to the public... is very good and has obviously reaped dividends. If we want this to work, the first thing that needs to be done is to make it as smooth and seamless as they have.
Keith - I think that's a fair point and comes down to the messaging from me/HSL.
We have a simple card payment system set up using Stripe here (https://hiberniansupporters.co.uk/donate-abroad/) which makes no reference to Direct Debits or the likes (I can fully understand the common use of the term Direct Debit makes people assume a recurring payment).
I'm not versed on the legalities of using a Direct Debit system but I think the messaging on that page is set and needs to be there to ensure HSL are following their obligations for using GoCardless.
For this particular venture where we are asking fans who aren't regular contributors to Hibernian Supporters to consider making a payment it makes most sense to direct them to the card payment link (https://hiberniansupporters.co.uk/donate-abroad/) which looks and feels much more like a standard, one-off online transaction.
I updated the opening post yesterday to include the card payment link and put the details on our social media so hopefully those having issues with the DD GoCardless system will be more comfortable using that.
As always, the feedback is much appreciated.
Keith_M
09-01-2021, 10:22 AM
Keith - I think that's a fair point and comes down to the messaging from me/HSL.
We have a simple card payment system set up using Stripe here (https://hiberniansupporters.co.uk/donate-abroad/) which makes no reference to Direct Debits or the likes (I can fully understand the common use of the term Direct Debit makes people assume a recurring payment).
I'm not versed on the legalities of using a Direct Debit system but I think the messaging on that page is set and needs to be there to ensure HSL are following their obligations for using GoCardless.
For this particular venture where we are asking fans who aren't regular contributors to Hibernian Supporters to consider making a payment it makes most sense to direct them to the card payment link (https://hiberniansupporters.co.uk/donate-abroad/) which looks and feels much more like a standard, one-off online transaction.
I updated the opening post yesterday to include the card payment link and put the details on our social media so hopefully those having issues with the DD GoCardless system will be more comfortable using that.
As always, the feedback is much appreciated.
Cheers Daniel.
I write this as a big fan of what you guys are doing.
:aok:
Golden Bear
09-01-2021, 10:31 AM
I tried to make a one off donation last night but failed miserably to negotiate my way thru the process and finally gave up.
Could I make a donation via direct banking? I'd feel much more comfortable if I could do it this way.
Daniel 1875
09-01-2021, 10:49 AM
I tried to make a one off donation last night but failed miserably to negotiate my way thru the process and finally gave up.
Could I make a donation via direct banking? I'd feel much more comfortable if I could do it this way.
I've sent you a PM
lord bunberry
09-01-2021, 11:04 AM
Is there a reason you can’t use PayPal alongside the current format? I can’t say I’ve had any problems with the go cardless system, but PayPal would be so much simpler.
king stanton
09-01-2021, 11:06 AM
I've sent you a PM
Hi Daniel I too thought I’d made a one off payment only to receive a message from Go cardless informing me I’d set up a DD for £30 per month or I thought that was the case ? I am already a subscriber-£10 a month so I decided to make another one off payment cancel my original £10 per month DD and continue with the £30 DD per month . Are you saying that message from Gocardless was for one off payment ? Are you able to check this for me as to my knowledge no money has come out my account as of yet ?
Golden Bear
09-01-2021, 11:12 AM
I've sent you a PM
Thanks Daniel.
I've replied and we can take it from there.
Iggy Pope
09-01-2021, 11:35 AM
We are running a campaign to raise £100,000 in January. If that includes a few people who have taken a notion to make a one off payment completely independently and without knowing about the Hampden £100k drive it doesn’t really matter - all the money is still going to Hibs?
If you, or anyone else, makes a one off payment of £25 it’ll all be going to the same pot and will be helping raise the targeted amount of £100,000 in January.
I appreciate it all goes into the one pot and goes to Hibs of course I do.. We’re well on then with the regular monthly intake then and this isn’t really a stand alone campaign, just a drive or push to increase this months contribution?
Daniel 1875
09-01-2021, 11:36 AM
Is there a reason you can’t use PayPal alongside the current format? I can’t say I’ve had any problems with the go cardless system, but PayPal would be so much simpler.
HS used to have GoCardless and Paypal but swapped PayPal to Stripe a few years ago.
I believe the short answer is that Stripe takes less of a fee for payments than PayPal did and integrates more easily into the website. The GoCardless direct debit mandate is the ‘best deal’ for HS in terms of the fees it charges.
Iggy Pope
09-01-2021, 11:36 AM
What difference would it make? The campaign is to raise £100k, who/where that comes from or the reason for donating doesn’t matter.
Bizarre.
Thanks.
Daniel 1875
09-01-2021, 11:40 AM
Hi Daniel I too thought I’d made a one off payment only to receive a message from Go cardless informing me I’d set up a DD for £30 per month or I thought that was the case ? I am already a subscriber-£10 a month so I decided to make another one off payment cancel my original £10 per month DD and continue with the £30 DD per month . Are you saying that message from Gocardless was for one off payment ? Are you able to check this for me as to my knowledge no money has come out my account as of yet ?
The email you should receive from GoCardless should be titled ‘New Direct Debit Payment to Hibernian Supporters Limited’ with the following message:
“Dear (Name),
Hibernian Supporters Limited is charging you £X for One of donation by the fan.
To confirm, the amount above is "X Pounds".
It will take around 4 working days from the point of selecting the donation online for the contribution to come out of your bank.
lord bunberry
09-01-2021, 11:57 AM
HS used to have GoCardless and Paypal but swapped PayPal to Stripe a few years ago.
I believe the short answer is that Stripe takes less of a fee for payments than PayPal did and integrates more easily into the website. The GoCardless direct debit mandate is the ‘best deal’ for HS in terms of the fees it charges.
Thanks, I thought it must be something like that.
NAE NOOKIE
09-01-2021, 12:29 PM
Donated.
Clicked the one off payment option on my HSL account and that was it, it seemed easy .... too easy :greengrin I now have a 'pending submission' note on my HSL payment history list. I presume that's the process finished and I don't have to do anything else?
Daniel 1875
09-01-2021, 12:40 PM
Donated.
Clicked the one off payment option on my HSL account and that was it, it seemed easy .... too easy :greengrin I now have a 'pending submission' note on my HSL payment history list. I presume that's the process finished and I don't have to do anything else?
Yes that’s all you need to do. Thanks for your support!
NAE NOOKIE
09-01-2021, 12:43 PM
Yes that’s all you need to do. Thanks for your support!
Cheers :aok:
For me this isn't about new players and stuff, just ensuring that Hibs stick around so that future generations get to suffer like we have, why the hell should they get away with it? :greengrin
Bostonhibby
09-01-2021, 01:49 PM
The email you should receive from GoCardless should be titled ‘New Direct Debit Payment to Hibernian Supporters Limited’ with the following message:
“Dear (Name),
Hibernian Supporters Limited is charging you £X for One of donation by the fan.
To confirm, the amount above is "X Pounds".
It will take around 4 working days from the point of selecting the donation online for the contribution to come out of your bank.That is exactly what happened shortly after I logged into the account and selected the one off donation amount option and selected the amount.
Worked fine.
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hibbysam
09-01-2021, 01:54 PM
Thanks.
You’re welcome.
I have regular amount coming out each month.
One off payments should be debit card types so shows off your balance straight away. I don't see the need to have a DD type payment come out several days later.
matty_f
09-01-2021, 04:02 PM
Hopefully folk persevere with the payment system and manager to do it, can’t stress enough how much of an opportunity we have to make a tangible difference to our chances of winning a cup this season.
This is a chance for us to show the club how ambitious we are.
Blaster
09-01-2021, 04:14 PM
Hopefully folk persevere with the payment system and manager to do it, can’t stress enough how much of an opportunity we have to make a tangible difference to our chances of winning a cup this season.
This is a chance for us to show the club how ambitious we are.
Completely agree Matty
However there is a counter point that this is a chance for the club to show how ambitious they are.
matty_f
09-01-2021, 04:18 PM
Completely agree Matty
However there is a counter point that this is a chance for the club to show how ambitious they are.
Definitely. :agree:
Vault Boy
09-01-2021, 07:30 PM
Hopefully folk persevere with the payment system and manager to do it, can’t stress enough how much of an opportunity we have to make a tangible difference to our chances of winning a cup this season.
This is a chance for us to show the club how ambitious we are.
Agreed! A successful campaign could genuinely mean an extra signing this window.
007 Mickey Weir
09-01-2021, 10:12 PM
I donate monthly but added my £25 as a one off. As others have said super easy and like how the site shows my total contributions so far. Great appeal!!
DanishJohn
10-01-2021, 07:50 AM
Just watched their Chairman on TV confirming that at this morning (Sunday) Marine FC have sold 15000 virtual tickets for Spurs match.
They will not win the trophy.
We have a vastly larger fan base and have a great chance of winning this trophy.
What is holding you back ?
You know it makes sense.
Little Marine fans can raise more money for their club than Hibs fans?
You couldn't make that up.
:flag:
Phil MaGlass
10-01-2021, 08:02 AM
Just watched their Chairman on TV confirming that at this morning (Sunday) Marine FC have sold 15000 virtual tickets for Spurs match.
They will not win the trophy.
We have a vastly larger fan base and have a great chance of winning this trophy.
What is holding you back ?
You know it makes sense.
Little Marine fans can raise more money for their club than Hibs fans?
You couldn't make that up.
:flag:
:rolleyes:
Pretty Boy
10-01-2021, 08:22 AM
Just watched their Chairman on TV confirming that at this morning (Sunday) Marine FC have sold 15000 virtual tickets for Spurs match.
They will not win the trophy.
We have a vastly larger fan base and have a great chance of winning this trophy.
What is holding you back ?
You know it makes sense.
Little Marine fans can raise more money for their club than Hibs fans?
You couldn't make that up.
:flag:
How many of those 15000 Marine fans bought STs at circa £400 a pop knowing they most likely wouldn't see a game this season?
About 10000 Hibs fans did. I'm all for encouraging people to get behind this campaign, I have myself, but belittling the contribution Hibs fans have made doesn't seem the best way to go about it.
JimBHibees
10-01-2021, 08:32 AM
How many of those 15000 Marine fans bought STs at circa £400 a pop knowing they most likely wouldn't see a game this season?
About 10000 Hibs fans did. I'm all for encouraging people to get behind this campaign, I have myself, but belittling the contribution Hibs fans have made doesn't seem the best way to go about it.
I think we have over 11k season tickets.
DanishJohn
10-01-2021, 08:49 AM
How many of those 15000 Marine fans bought STs at circa £400 a pop knowing they most likely wouldn't see a game this season?
About 10000 Hibs fans did. I'm all for encouraging people to get behind this campaign, I have myself, but belittling the contribution Hibs fans have made doesn't seem the best way to go about it.
I did not attend to belittle anyone. I intended to encourage people.
It's probably the winning mentality in me where I don't want Hibs to be second to anyone.
As for not being the best way to go about it, is of course only your opinion.
KdyHby
10-01-2021, 04:14 PM
Have just paid. The references to setting up a DD through out, even when making a one off donation, is confusing / off-putting. This stopped me from making a number of donations in the past.
Viva_Palmeiras
10-01-2021, 06:39 PM
I did not attend to belittle anyone. I intended to encourage people.
It's probably the winning mentality in me where I don't want Hibs to be second to anyone.
As for not being the best way to go about it, is of course only your opinion.
I think perhaps you’re not looking at things in the round. Or circumstances which I think deserves a little more attention.
In all of this clamour (let’s be many are just honest comparing ourselves against Hearts) we forget we’re not comparing like with like.
I’ve no idea what the socio-economic profile or Hearts V Hibs fans but that’s what will in part determine folks propensity to pay over and above. If the Jambos have a higher disposable income and don’t want their club to go tits up and appreciate the advantage tax-free contributions make (proportionately better than a ST) then you can see the disparity.
Why don’t folks contribute more? Well with many avenues to support the club maybe we’ve reached a plateau because there is a limit to what folks can afford and a willing to pay?
But when you do look at what we’ve contributed it is pretty remarkable
STs
kicks for kids
HSL
Hibs stones
Hibs Tv
lotto
Merchandise
Cardboard cut outs (compare with the Dons - seemed to have V little)
Amongst others
We should be highlighting the good we’ve done and not beat ourselves up.
Baldy Foghorn
10-01-2021, 08:56 PM
Just watched their Chairman on TV confirming that at this morning (Sunday) Marine FC have sold 15000 virtual tickets for Spurs match.
They will not win the trophy.
We have a vastly larger fan base and have a great chance of winning this trophy.
What is holding you back ?
You know it makes sense.
Little Marine fans can raise more money for their club than Hibs fans?
You couldn't make that up.
:flag:
Thought the tickets were bought by Spurs fans?
Billy Whizz
10-01-2021, 08:58 PM
Thought the tickets were bought by Spurs fans?
That’s nice of them though
Money goes to the club
Baldy Foghorn
10-01-2021, 09:00 PM
That’s nice of them though
Money goes to the club
Indeed, but the poster said Marine fans contributed more to their club than we did (not at all comparable)
NAE NOOKIE
11-01-2021, 12:59 AM
Just watched their Chairman on TV confirming that at this morning (Sunday) Marine FC have sold 15000 virtual tickets for Spurs match.
They will not win the trophy.
We have a vastly larger fan base and have a great chance of winning this trophy.
What is holding you back ?
You know it makes sense.
Little Marine fans can raise more money for their club than Hibs fans?
You couldn't make that up.
:flag:
Erm. no they canny mate. Marine have an average gate of about 400, the vast majority of the tickets were bought by kindly Spurs fans and sympathetic fans of other clubs, with no doubt Everton and Liverpool fans being front and centre in that.
The fact is that the fans of this club have stepped up big time and we can hold our heads up in any company UK wide. It wasn't that long ago that Hibs would have considered 9000 season tickets a result for a season where fans could get into games, never mind near enough 11000 for a season where fans had no idea if they would get to see the games or not.
Chuck in over 2000 folk giving free money to the club every month for no tangible return and not because the club are ( or were ) in financial difficulties and I would say this club has brilliant fans who are a long way from needing lessons in supporting it from Marine or anybody else for that matter.
basehibby
11-01-2021, 02:24 AM
Donation made :aok:
DanishJohn
11-01-2021, 08:56 AM
Erm. no they canny mate. Marine have an average gate of about 400, the vast majority of the tickets were bought by kindly Spurs fans and sympathetic fans of other clubs, with no doubt Everton and Liverpool fans being front and centre in that.
The fact is that the fans of this club have stepped up big time and we can hold our heads up in any company UK wide. It wasn't that long ago that Hibs would have considered 9000 season tickets a result for a season where fans could get into games, never mind near enough 11000 for a season where fans had no idea if they would get to see the games or not.
Chuck in over 2000 folk giving free money to the club every month for no tangible return and not because the club are ( or were ) in financial difficulties and I would say this club has brilliant fans who are a long way from needing lessons in supporting it from Marine or anybody else for that matter.
OK where to begin?
Your first paragraph.Sorry to say this is slightly flawed.
Marine's stadium has a capacity of 3185. Their average gate is 400 (as stated by you).
Safe to say Marine do not always fill their stadium. This is not unusual. Hibs don't always fill their stadium.
Marine I would think, think they have at least 3000 fans?
Crosby as a town has a population of approx 51000. That leaves a lot of people who indeed are blue or red but could also be lapsed Crosby fans?
I think you are inviting the reader to believe (on assumption) the 400 figure is the figure to stick on.
Could be that 3000 were snapped up by Crosby fans and yes 12000 by others.
Marine FC have done everything possible here to raise money through the virtual route.
At this point I should say I have not, or am I, handing out lessons in how to support my club.
I think it is magnificent what Hibs supporters do to support their club.
eg HSL member are donating money with nothing in return.They are doing this through love of their club.
I doff my cap to the individuals who pack the club store and buy the merchandise. It all helps the club.
Season ticket holders get to see the Hibs in the flesh. This season they don't so they to should be roundly applauded.
Now getting to the real point.
I think this appeal from day one was aimed at the Hibs supporters who might have went to Hampden.
It was not specifically aimed at season tickets holders or HSL members.
Three good numbers to consider
we could take 20000 to a semi-final
we could take 40000 to a final (if we got the tickets)
Newspapers reported 200000 people on the streets of Edinburgh when we returned with the cup.
I might be wrong but I think the appeal was at the vast swathes of Hibbys who don't identify as a season ticket holder or HSL member etc. The ones who just have a genuine soft spot for the Hibs and who would have went to Hampden.
Hope I have cleared things up a bit and have as always, not meant to offend anyone.
PS Above of course only my thoughts and opinion.:aok:
matty_f
11-01-2021, 10:37 AM
I think the appeal is just aimed at everyone who would have went to Hampden and therefore spent £25(ish) to ask them to still spend that but give it to Hibs to make up for the loss in income we’ll suffer through no fans being allowed in the stadium.
Keith_M
11-01-2021, 11:06 AM
Not everything has to be an argument.
This is a fairly straightforward initiative with an and goal that I'm sure we can all agree is worthwhile.
Gerard
11-01-2021, 12:45 PM
It’s a important way to help our club improve its squad of football players. At a time when our club needs all the help that can be given it is a very important means of helping our club. I hope it is successful in raising as much money as possible
NAE NOOKIE
11-01-2021, 02:14 PM
OK where to begin?
Your first paragraph.Sorry to say this is slightly flawed.
Marine's stadium has a capacity of 3185. Their average gate is 400 (as stated by you).
Safe to say Marine do not always fill their stadium. This is not unusual. Hibs don't always fill their stadium.
Marine I would think, think they have at least 3000 fans?
Crosby as a town has a population of approx 51000. That leaves a lot of people who indeed are blue or red but could also be lapsed Crosby fans?
I think you are inviting the reader to believe (on assumption) the 400 figure is the figure to stick on.
Could be that 3000 were snapped up by Crosby fans and yes 12000 by others.
Marine FC have done everything possible here to raise money through the virtual route.
At this point I should say I have not, or am I, handing out lessons in how to support my club.
I think it is magnificent what Hibs supporters do to support their club.
eg HSL member are donating money with nothing in return.They are doing this through love of their club.
I doff my cap to the individuals who pack the club store and buy the merchandise. It all helps the club.
Season ticket holders get to see the Hibs in the flesh. This season they don't so they to should be roundly applauded.
Now getting to the real point.
I think this appeal from day one was aimed at the Hibs supporters who might have went to Hampden.
It was not specifically aimed at season tickets holders or HSL members.
Three good numbers to consider
we could take 20000 to a semi-final
we could take 40000 to a final (if we got the tickets)
Newspapers reported 200000 people on the streets of Edinburgh when we returned with the cup.
I might be wrong but I think the appeal was at the vast swathes of Hibbys who don't identify as a season ticket holder or HSL member etc. The ones who just have a genuine soft spot for the Hibs and who would have went to Hampden.
Hope I have cleared things up a bit and have as always, not meant to offend anyone.
PS Above of course only my thoughts and opinion.:aok:
The 400 figure was mentioned by someone connected to Marine during the build up to the weekend's match. You don't need to tell me about Crosby mate. my brother has lived there for years, I visit often and drink in 'The Edinburgh' from time to time, which is on the same road as Marine's ground :greengrin
Intended or not your comment made an unfair comparison with the efforts of Hibs fans compared to those of a semi pro lower league club taking advantage of a one off opportunity to be in the limelight, you shouldn't be surprised if folk reacted to it. It may be that HSL's initiative is aimed at all Hibs fans, but the fact is that the overwhelming response is going to come from folk who follow social media sites like this one or the many facebook pages devoted to the club, the cast majority of whom will be ST holders and or already members of HSL.
OfficialHSL
11-01-2021, 06:30 PM
The 400 figure was mentioned by someone connected to Marine during the build up to the weekend's match. You don't need to tell me about Crosby mate. my brother has lived there for years, I visit often and drink in 'The Edinburgh' from time to time, which is on the same road as Marine's ground :greengrin
Intended or not your comment made an unfair comparison with the efforts of Hibs fans compared to those of a semi pro lower league club taking advantage of a one off opportunity to be in the limelight, you shouldn't be surprised if folk reacted to it. It may be that HSL's initiative is aimed at all Hibs fans, but the fact is that the overwhelming response is going to come from folk who follow social media sites like this one or the many facebook pages devoted to the club, the cast majority of whom will be ST holders and or already members of HSL.
Nae Nookie
Can we first of thank you for your kind donation to the cause.
In terms of the campaign our target audience is just as Danish John and Matty describe. We are trying to reach beyond Season Ticket holders and our own Members. One would have thought that we would have taken as many as 20,000 to Hampden for this game. If we deduct 11,000 season ticket holders this leaves around 9,000 supporters. We are hoping just 4000 out of that anticipated 9000 are willing to and are in a position to donate this one off donation just as their ticket to Hampden would have been a one off payment.
Clearly, if Season Ticket holders or Members are minded to join in so much the better.
Again, thank you for your donation, no matter what category you fall in.
Hibernian Supporters
hibbydad
12-01-2021, 10:11 AM
Nae Nookie
Can we first of thank you for your kind donation to the cause.
In terms of the campaign our target audience is just as Danish John and Matty describe. We are trying to reach beyond Season Ticket holders and our own Members. One would have thought that we would have taken as many as 20,000 to Hampden for this game. If we deduct 11,000 season ticket holders this leaves around 9,000 supporters. We are hoping just 4000 out of that anticipated 9000 are willing to and are in a position to donate this one off donation just as their ticket to Hampden would have been a one off payment.
Clearly, if Season Ticket holders or Members are minded to join in so much the better.
Again, thank you for your donation, no matter what category you fall in.
Hibernian Supporters
How is this going can't help but feel a bit of the momentum has been lost as it has gone very quiet
Daniel 1875
12-01-2021, 10:34 AM
How is this going can't help but feel a bit of the momentum has been lost as it has gone very quiet
Hoping for the first meaningful update today. Due to the bank holidays etc the first one off payments from 1st Jan should arrive in the bank today and we'll update on here and on social media once I've had an update.
Should build nicely towards semi final week as each day will bring another batch of campaign donations into the bank.
Daniel 1875
12-01-2021, 10:35 AM
Also a reminder that anyone looking to donate by credit or debit card can do so by clicking here (http://bit.ly/hampden100k3) and selecting 'Single payments' from the tabs.
darwenhibby
12-01-2021, 11:32 AM
Just made a £25 donation
Hope it guarantees a ticket for the final if we get there and crowds let back in 😉
penihibs
12-01-2021, 12:04 PM
Just made a £25 donation
Hope it guarantees a ticket for the final if we get there and crowds let back in 😉
Lowalty points first please.😁
hibbydad
12-01-2021, 12:10 PM
Hoping for the first meaningful update today. Due to the bank holidays etc the first one off payments from 1st Jan should arrive in the bank today and we'll update on here and on social media once I've had an update.
Should build nicely towards semi final week as each day will bring another batch of campaign donations into the bank.
Hope the momentum can be kept up Daniel
StevieC
12-01-2021, 02:02 PM
Ticket bought.
I hope I don't end up with a crap view at the back of the East Stand. :rolleyes:
Green_one
12-01-2021, 02:18 PM
Also a reminder that anyone looking to donate by credit or debit card can do so by clicking here (http://bit.ly/hampden100k3) and selecting 'Single payments' from the tabs.
Thanks Daniel. Finally got a link that does not take me to a direct debit page. Donation done. Well done all
:flag:
ahibby
12-01-2021, 04:35 PM
Nae Nookie
Can we first of thank you for your kind donation to the cause.
In terms of the campaign our target audience is just as Danish John and Matty describe. We are trying to reach beyond Season Ticket holders and our own Members. One would have thought that we would have taken as many as 20,000 to Hampden for this game. If we deduct 11,000 season ticket holders this leaves around 9,000 supporters. We are hoping just 4000 out of that anticipated 9000 are willing to and are in a position to donate this one off donation just as their ticket to Hampden would have been a one off payment.
Clearly, if Season Ticket holders or Members are minded to join in so much the better.
Again, thank you for your donation, no matter what category you fall in.
Hibernian Supporters
I am a ST holder who has bought two tickets and there will be many more like me lucky enough to be able to. So if guesstimations about 4000 are good then maybe just maybe we can exceed the target. No pressure then.
Daniel 1875
12-01-2021, 05:23 PM
The latest total for January is £10,272.
Thanks to North East Scotland Hibs who have kindly contributed £100 to the campaign on behalf of their branch today.
We’ll keep the updates coming every few days - as previously stated there’s a bit of lag between making a payment on the website and the info filtering through so please bear with us.
Thanks as always for the ongoing support.
hibbydad
12-01-2021, 05:27 PM
The latest total for January is £10,272.
Thanks to North East Scotland Hibs who have kindly contributed £100 to the campaign on behalf of their branch today.
We’ll keep the updates coming every few days - as previously stated there a bit of lag between making a payment on the website and the info filtering through so please bear with us.
Thanks as always for the ongoing support.
That is good Daniel we need to keep this to the forefront of people's attention
DaveF
12-01-2021, 05:30 PM
I think it's a disappointing figure.
Not a dig at the initiative or those promoting it but it just seems like there is little to no appetite to back these sort of things from the fans.
Daniel 1875
12-01-2021, 05:35 PM
I think it's a disappointing figure.
Not a dig at the initiative or those promoting it but it just seems like there is little to no appetite to back these sort of things from the fans.
The figure only represents the first couple of days of the month. With bank holidays and weekends we are only seeing one off donations from 1st and maybe 2nd Jan in the bank account on top of regular monthly DDs.
We should see hopefully the number rise at a higher rate over the next week heading into semi final week.
DaveF
12-01-2021, 05:39 PM
The figure only represents the first couple of days of the month. With bank holidays and weekends we are only seeing one off donations from 1st and maybe 2nd Jan in the bank account on top of regular monthly DDs.
We should see hopefully the number rise at a higher rate over the next week heading into semi final week.
Ah right, hopefully the next update will see a big jump.
Thanks Daniel.
I think it's a disappointing figure.
Not a dig at the initiative or those promoting it but it just seems like there is little to no appetite to back these sort of things from the fans.
It is a bit Dave but unfortunately I think it's a wee bit naive of HSL to expect so many non season ticket holders to step up. The fact is we have a hard core who probably donate to nearly everything & they're much more likely to be ST holders. Personally in addition to my ST (from London) I donate to HSL, Hibs TV, have bought a tile, a wall plaque & I'm a shareholder. I'm in a very fortunate & privileged position to be able to do this but I haven't (as yet) donated on this occasion.
I greatly admire the work that the HSL volunteers put in but the only personal messages I've had from them in recent years are when they (wrongly) ask me why I've stopped my contributions. I feel bad about highlighting this on here but I received no reply to my last email to HSL. I'm afraid there often seems to be a gap between their concept & execution. To balance my criticism, if I as a London based & not particularly IT literate fan can help HSL in any way then I will. I'll probably start by donating to this worthy cause. 😁
andy1875
12-01-2021, 06:31 PM
Hi all,
Can i just double check, when I go onto the HSL site, I get the option of monthly payment or one off payment. For clarity, I want to donate the £25 ticket price that I would have paid anyway by going to the game but when I click one off payment, state £25, it then asks you to confirm/proceed with the “direct debit payment”....
Is this just the system speak because I wouldnt have expected a one off payment to be badged under direct debit?
Maybe just me :greengrin
Once confirmed I am on right part. I will make donation this evening.
Cheers
Pagan Hibernia
12-01-2021, 06:41 PM
Hi all,
Can i just double check, when I go onto the HSL site, I get the option of monthly payment or one off payment. For clarity, I want to donate the £25 ticket price that I would have paid anyway by going to the game but when I click one off payment, state £25, it then asks you to confirm/proceed with the “direct debit payment”....
Is this just the system speak because I wouldnt have expected a one off payment to be badged under direct debit?
Maybe just me :greengrin
Once confirmed I am on right part. I will make donation this evening.
Cheers
yes, it will say direct debit but you don’t need to worry about it coming out every month. It won’t.
Iggy Pope
12-01-2021, 06:49 PM
The figure only represents the first couple of days of the month. With bank holidays and weekends we are only seeing one off donations from 1st and maybe 2nd Jan in the bank account on top of regular monthly DDs.
We should see hopefully the number rise at a higher rate over the next week heading into semi final week.
I need to ask in the hope you can tell me. Does the figure of £10,272 represent one off payments only or does it include the regular January DDs to date? I know it’s all going same place and we’ve covered that, but I’m curious.
andy1875
12-01-2021, 06:53 PM
yes, it will say direct debit but you don’t need to worry about it coming out every month. It won’t.
Cheers. 👍🏻
Radium
12-01-2021, 06:59 PM
I think it's a disappointing figure.
Not a dig at the initiative or those promoting it but it just seems like there is little to no appetite to back these sort of things from the fans.
I will donate but don’t get paid till the end of the month. Others may be in a similar position. I was paid slightly earlier in Dec so stretching cash this month.
HSL and Season Ticket DDs will come off as normal but the extra needs to wait.
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Daniel 1875
12-01-2021, 07:05 PM
I need to ask in the hope you can tell me. Does the figure of £10,272 represent one off payments only or does it include the regular January DDs to date? I know it’s all going same place and we’ve covered that, but I’m curious.
It’s a combination of one-off payments and regular direct debits. The one off payments take a while to filter through the system and into the bank account so I’d imagine the £10,000 so far includes a fair amount of ‘regular’ contributions at this stage.
andy1875
12-01-2021, 07:08 PM
Thats me just made my donation....
Can’t help feeling the one off payment option is a bit confusing as I said in earlier post in that the site asks you to setup a direct debit. Might put some folk off in my opinion.
Anyways, heres hoping we get a good figure that can help the club :flag:
Iggy Pope
12-01-2021, 07:25 PM
It’s a combination of one-off payments and regular direct debits. The one off payments take a while to filter through the system and into the bank account so I’d imagine the £10,000 so far includes a fair amount of ‘regular’ contributions at this stage.
Ta. It does seem slow then as it sounds like it includes all the regular contributions at this stage. Interesting to see what the difference will be over the whole month. I suppose that’s how you’ll gauge the success of the drive unless you can post the one-offs as a standalone figure?
Vault Boy
12-01-2021, 07:31 PM
Ta. It does seem slow then as it sounds like it includes all the regular contributions at this stage. Interesting to see what the difference will be over the whole month. I suppose that’s how you’ll gauge the success of the drive unless you can post the one-offs as a standalone figure?
The response from the first time you asked.
"We are running a campaign to raise £100,000 in January. If that includes a few people who have taken a notion to make a one off payment completely independently and without knowing about the Hampden £100k drive it doesn’t really matter - all the money is still going to Hibs?
If you, or anyone else, makes a one off payment of £25 it’ll all be going to the same pot and will be helping raise the targeted amount of £100,000 in January."
The target is for January, regardless of how the donations are made, so that's how the total will be calculated.
Iggy Pope
12-01-2021, 07:37 PM
The response from the first time you asked.
"We are running a campaign to raise £100,000 in January. If that includes a few people who have taken a notion to make a one off payment completely independently and without knowing about the Hampden £100k drive it doesn’t really matter - all the money is still going to Hibs?
If you, or anyone else, makes a one off payment of £25 it’ll all be going to the same pot and will be helping raise the targeted amount of £100,000 in January."
The target is for January, regardless of how the donations are made, so that's how the total will be calculated.
Daniels been pretty good at getting back so far thanks and I already had that one as I said in my post tonight (#150) , but now we have this initial figure.
I’m asking really, how are we going to know what the impact of the promotion has been over and above the regular intake. It’s a fair question and I’m asking it as a fairly hefty contributor since the start (and having had a wee bit to do with one off fundraising for Hibs and HSL earlier this year).
Give HSL time to get back to me. Ta.
Vault Boy
12-01-2021, 07:44 PM
Daniels been pretty good at getting back so far thanks and I already had that one as I said in my post tonight (#150) , but now we have this initial figure.
I’m asking really, how are we going to know what the impact of the promotion has been over and above the regular intake. It’s a fair question and I’m asking it as a fairly hefty contributor since the start (and having had a wee bit to do with one off fundraising for Hibs and HSL earlier this year).
Give HSL time to get back to me. Ta.
I work alongside Daniel and have been volunteering with HSL for months. Ta.
The success of the fundraiser will be gauged by the total figure come the end of January, balanced against the regular monthly average we see come in. The figures won't be separated by regulars/one offs.
andy1875
12-01-2021, 07:45 PM
Daniel1875 I have dropped you a PM.
Ta
Iggy Pope
12-01-2021, 08:00 PM
I work alongside Daniel and have been volunteering with HSL for months. Ta.
The success of the fundraiser will be gauged by the total figure come the end of January, balanced against the regular monthly average we see come in. The figures won't be separated by regulars/one offs.
Good for you Vault Boy. You didn’t have to reiterate his previous answer though did you? I’ve done some volunteering myself, it’s a good thing.
I am not starting a ruck, I’ve asked a question of HSL who tag on here, and Daniel who has become a spokesman for them also on here. Indeed, Hibs.net has become perhaps the best way of contacting HSL.
Your second paragraph has confirmed what I’ve said already. The figure at the end of the month will be what it is and any increment on the ‘norm’ will be put down to the initiative increasing the balance. Right?
I think people were interested (I certainly was, still am) in finding out how much had been raised under the ‘swap your Hampden ticket money here’ initiative over and above the consistent, regularly DD contributions that hundreds of us, you, me everyone else, are already making. The current £10k figure doesn’t hint at the success to date, could be great could be abysmal.
Vault Boy
12-01-2021, 08:08 PM
Good for you Vault Boy. You didn’t have to reiterate his previous answer though did you? I’ve done some volunteering myself, it’s a good thing.
I am not starting a ruck, I’ve asked a question of HSL who tag on here, and Daniel who has become a spokesman for them also on here. Indeed, Hibs.net has become perhaps the best way of contacting HSL.
Your second paragraph has confirmed what I’ve said already. The figure at the end of the month will be what it is and any increment on the ‘norm’ will be put down to the initiative increasing the balance. Right?
I think people were interested (I certainly was, still am) in finding out how much had been raised under the ‘swap your Hampden ticket money here’ initiative over and above the consistent, regularly DD contributions that hundreds of us, you, me everyone else, are already making. The current £10k figure doesn’t hint at the success to date, could be great could be abysmal.
I copied the original answer because it remained pertinent with regards to the question. You then told me to wait for Daniel to respond, which is why I told you my capacity with HSL.
The updates won't be all that insightful until a bit later into the month, so we can only wait and see on that one. Because of the delay with getting an accurate figure (as outlined above), the impact can't really be speculated upon yet.
Hopefully we see a sizeable January contribution, which will help Hibs secure signings, particularly ahead of the semi. To get the answer you're seeking RE the campaign, we all need to see the final figure. Until then, we'll try to keep promoting the initiative and getting fans on board. The reaction on social media has been strong so far, which is something we get more instant feedback on.
RyeSloan
12-01-2021, 08:11 PM
I know it’s only a small thing but there doesn’t appear to be anything on the HSL website about this campaign.
There is a small donate button but it then takes a few clicks and a scroll to find the £25 option, then you have the DD confusion and the do you want to be a member (although you won’t be a full member) question.
None of that is the end of the world but in these instant days it certainly won’t help.
I can’t help but think a special one off just giving page or the like might have been easier (appreciate the fees are higher) and would have been much easier to ping a link to friends etc urging them to donate.
But none the less I hope the campaign succeeds and all power to HSL’s efforts [emoji736][emoji736]
Iggy Pope
12-01-2021, 08:20 PM
I copied the original answer because it remained pertinent with regards to the question. You then told me to wait for Daniel to respond, which is why I told you my capacity with HSL.
The updates won't be all that insightful until a bit later into the month, so we can only wait and see on that one. Because of the delay with getting an accurate figure (as outlined above), the impact can't really be speculated upon yet.
Hopefully we see a sizeable January contribution, which will help Hibs secure signings, particularly ahead of the semi. To get the answer you're seeking RE the campaign, we all need to see the final figure. Until then, we'll try to keep promoting the initiative and getting fans on board. The reaction on social media has been strong so far, which is something we get more instant feedback on.
Agree with all that, the differential would be nice to know. I’ve dealt with Daniel, Jim and Gordon. What is your capacity with HSL if you don’t mind me asking?
Vault Boy
12-01-2021, 08:27 PM
Agree with all that, the differential would be nice to know. I’ve dealt with Daniel, Jim and Gordon. What is your capacity with HSL if you don’t mind me asking?
Similar to Daniel. We both help out with the marketing/comms, whatever label works best really. The Hampden100K video being the most recent example.
Daniel 1875
12-01-2021, 08:30 PM
Ta. It does seem slow then as it sounds like it includes all the regular contributions at this stage. Interesting to see what the difference will be over the whole month. I suppose that’s how you’ll gauge the success of the drive unless you can post the one-offs as a standalone figure?
Yeah - if we take around £20,000 as the 'normal' amount then anything over and above that figure come the end of January will give us a decent idea of the extra revenue generated by the Hampden £100k campaign.
Iggy Pope
12-01-2021, 08:32 PM
Similar to Daniel. We both help out with the marketing/comms, whatever label works best really. The Hampden100K video being the most recent example.
Marketing. Right.
Want to buy a badge? I’ve a wee drop left. One off donation.
Iggy Pope
12-01-2021, 08:34 PM
Yeah - if we take around £20,000 as the 'normal' amount then anything over and above that figure come the end of January will give us a decent idea of the extra revenue generated by the Hampden £100k campaign.
Thank you, and sincerest good luck getting close to, or past, the target.
Vault Boy
12-01-2021, 08:45 PM
Marketing. Right.
Want to buy a badge? I’ve a wee drop left. One off donation.
I've already made a one off on top of my usual monthly contribution, so I'll have to pass this time.
The badges are good though, so for anyone looking in who fancies one. 👆
OfficialHSL
12-01-2021, 09:08 PM
Daniels been pretty good at getting back so far thanks and I already had that one as I said in my post tonight (#150) , but now we have this initial figure.
I’m asking really, how are we going to know what the impact of the promotion has been over and above the regular intake. It’s a fair question and I’m asking it as a fairly hefty contributor since the start (and having had a wee bit to do with one off fundraising for Hibs and HSL earlier this year).
Give HSL time to get back to me. Ta.
Iggy
Fully understand your curiosity so let us try to answer as best we can.
First of all can we first say we cannot give you a definitive exact answer as the Go Cardless system collects different data in a different format and reports over different time periods. It is fair to assume that about 70% of that figure is normal monthly DD’s. The balance however only represents the first two days of the initiative. Second observation we would make is that there is still a significant contribution of one off payments from existing Members. In a nutshell, at the moment we have still to reach a significant part of our target audience i.e. those supporters who would have been at Hampden but are not HSL Members or Season Ticket holders. We must however keep in mind the time of year and the influence of pay day. So, if you can, and indeed anyone else reading please bring our Campaign to the attention of as many fellow Hibees as possible.
As always please feel free to get in touch if you want any further or specific information.
Hibernian Supporters
Pagan Hibernia
12-01-2021, 09:09 PM
I’ll be making my contribution when I get paid on the 18th. Then my standard monthly payment will go in a couple of days after. So hopefully there’s plenty more to come from people in similar positions.
DanishJohn
13-01-2021, 08:31 AM
Marketing. Right.
Want to buy a badge? I’ve a wee drop left. One off donation.
Hi Iggy
The badges were fantastic, as were the HSL scarves before them.
I think there might be a little market there for HSL goods.
What do you think?
Iggy Pope
13-01-2021, 11:46 AM
Iggy
Fully understand your curiosity so let us try to answer as best we can.
First of all can we first say we cannot give you a definitive exact answer as the Go Cardless system collects different data in a different format and reports over different time periods. It is fair to assume that about 70% of that figure is normal monthly DD’s. The balance however only represents the first two days of the initiative. Second observation we would make is that there is still a significant contribution of one off payments from existing Members. In a nutshell, at the moment we have still to reach a significant part of our target audience i.e. those supporters who would have been at Hampden but are not HSL Members or Season Ticket holders. We must however keep in mind the time of year and the influence of pay day. So, if you can, and indeed anyone else reading please bring our Campaign to the attention of as many fellow Hibees as possible.
As always please feel free to get in touch if you want any further or specific information.
Hibernian Supporters
That’s the polite response I expected rather than the “we’ve already told you” one I got previously from your marketing man, so thanks.
That target audience you mention is the big one as that’s where most of the apathy towards HSL is Im sure you agree. Probably also amongst ST holders too as I’m sure the numbers of those and the D/D numbers contributing don’t compare and never have since HSL inception, unlike the success other clubs may have had who I know HSL admire from a distance.
I’m really keen to see the impact the initiative, £100k drive, call it what you will, has on this months figures whenever they arrive as it will be pretty disappointing to you and the rest of us if it’s not significant.
In saying this Mrs Pope gave the baws of Mr Pope a leathering when topping up an already significant monthly contribution of six years standing.
Iggy Pope
13-01-2021, 11:48 AM
Hi Iggy
The badges were fantastic, as were the HSL scarves before them.
I think there might be a little market there for HSL goods.
What do you think?
Not for this thread, but I always thought there was scope for something.
It’s the volunteers that do the running though and it’s not easy.
Vault Boy
13-01-2021, 11:54 AM
That’s the polite response I expected rather than the “we’ve already told you” one I got previously from your marketing man, so thanks.
Ah, so you only asked in order to make snide remarks online. Glad I entertained your questioning.
I actually took some time out of my evening to answer your question, by sourcing the original answer (which was still correct), and adding a line to reiterate the point and explain that nothing had changed on that front. You've somehow found a way to take that personally, which is quite remarkable.
Vault Boy
13-01-2021, 12:05 PM
HSL Tweet. (http://twitter.com/hfcsupporters/status/1349291365881016320?s=19)
Anyway, here's another Tweet with links for anybody looking to contribute, regardless of whether you've signed up with HSL previously or not. :aok:
Would be a welcomed boost ahead of the semi! Superb to see the support for it thus far.
lord bunberry
13-01-2021, 12:20 PM
I can’t believe that a positive initiative to raise money for the club has been reduced to petty bickering. Can we not just get behind this and help to promote it.
Iggy Pope
13-01-2021, 12:27 PM
Ah, so you only asked in order to make snide remarks online. Glad I entertained your questioning.
I actually took some time out of my evening to answer your question, by sourcing the original answer (which was still correct), and adding a line to reiterate the point and explain that nothing had changed on that front. You've somehow found a way to take that personally, which is quite remarkable.
Remarkable indeed. Snide remarks? I placed my post on here, wide open. If it had been snide I’d be hiding it from you, anything else more sinister then I’m sure it would have been deleted.
I didn’t like your first response to my post #150 and I responded as much. You may have taken time out or whatever but you did so by replying to a question I was asking of someone else so you brought that inconvenience on yourself.
I didn’t know you were HSL marketing until later in the discussion.
I’ve slept on it and I found your first answer a tad smart ass given you were effectively corresponding with a customer yet here we are discussing it again. It would be better for you, me and all of us if it stopped no matter whether you are speaking now in your HSL capacity (and I hope you aren’t) or as an Admin.
hibbydad
13-01-2021, 12:38 PM
I can’t believe that a positive initiative to raise money for the club has been reduced to petty bickering. Can we not just get behind this and help to promote it.
I am with you lord bunberry
Vault Boy
13-01-2021, 12:42 PM
I am with you lord bunberry
Likewise.
Link above to the tweet, plus a new thread on the main forum from HibsTalk, featuring Jim (Official HSL) as guest. Well worth a watch/listen for anybody interested. :aok:
matty_f
13-01-2021, 12:45 PM
I can’t believe that a positive initiative to raise money for the club has been reduced to petty bickering. Can we not just get behind this and help to promote it.
:agree:
Surely we all want the same outcome here - a cash injection to the club that could potentially help us secure a signing to help win a trophy?
I think everyone's intentions are good here, I don't think anyone's looking to sabotage anything so would be good to see some more good news coming through on this and posts where folk have contributed as well.
Iggy Pope
13-01-2021, 01:01 PM
I can’t believe that a positive initiative to raise money for the club has been reduced to petty bickering. Can we not just get behind this and help to promote it.
Don’t mistake the posts surrounding my question as being a lack of support. Nothing could be further from the truth and HSL know that.
andudare2
13-01-2021, 01:03 PM
HSL Tweet. (http://twitter.com/hfcsupporters/status/1349291365881016320?s=19)
Anyway, here's another Tweet with links for anybody looking to contribute, regardless of whether you've signed up with HSL previously or not. :aok:
Would be a welcomed boost ahead of the semi! Superb to see the support for it thus far.Thanks for putting tweet link up,have had problems with email address for hsl account so your tweet link has enabled me to make my one off semi final donation, cheers.GGTTH
Alex Trager
13-01-2021, 03:47 PM
Made my ticket price donation.
Hopefully we get a decent amount of folk buying into it this month.
Maybe even a bigger uptake in those becoming regulars.
Vault Boy
13-01-2021, 03:55 PM
Thanks for putting tweet link up,have had problems with email address for hsl account so your tweet link has enabled me to make my one off semi final donation, cheers.GGTTH
Made my ticket price donation.
Hopefully we get a decent amount of folk buying into it this month.
Maybe even a bigger uptake in those becoming regulars.
Brilliant stuff, well done both. :thumbsup:
That'd be ideal too! (Of course only if it's manageable within folks' monthly budgets)
derekduval
13-01-2021, 04:02 PM
I can’t believe that a positive initiative to raise money for the club has been reduced to petty bickering. Can we not just get behind this and help to promote it.
At least it keeps it relevant. Every cloud an all that
madhibby
13-01-2021, 08:44 PM
Made a £25 one-off payment.
I already pay monthly by DD to HSL. In my payment history as well as showing my monthly DD payments it shows a date of 19 January 2021 for my one off £25 with a description of Pending Submission. I hope I have done this correctly!
Skol1972
13-01-2021, 09:31 PM
Made a £25 one-off payment.
I already pay monthly by DD to HSL. In my payment history as well as showing my monthly DD payments it shows a date of 19 January 2021 for my one off £25 with a description of Pending Submission. I hope I have done this correctly!
Should be fine. I was similar as a monthly DD payer. Did a one off payment of £25 on January 6th and it showed up as Pending Submission. When it actually came out of my bank account on the 11th this changed to Paid Out.
Daniel 1875
13-01-2021, 09:40 PM
Made a £25 one-off payment.
I already pay monthly by DD to HSL. In my payment history as well as showing my monthly DD payments it shows a date of 19 January 2021 for my one off £25 with a description of Pending Submission. I hope I have done this correctly!
Yes sounds like you’ve done everything right. It takes around 4 working days for the payment to be processed.
Daniel 1875
14-01-2021, 05:56 PM
The latest figure is £14,264. Thanks to everyone who has donated so far this month.
A reminder how to donate:
Already signed up? bit.ly/hampden100k1 (http://bit.ly/hampden100k1)
Not signed up? bit.ly/hampden100k2 (http://bit.ly/hampden100k2)
Pay by card? bit.ly/hampden100k3 (http://bit.ly/hampden100k3)
Wheat Hound
14-01-2021, 06:05 PM
Just paid my £25. Lucky enough to be able to do so and grateful I can contribute a little to hopefully help towards strengthening the squad yet further.
Daniel 1875
15-01-2021, 01:05 PM
A reminder that anyone who donates £25+ in January will be entered into the prize draw to win a signed, framed shirt by the Hibs player of your choice.
We also have a few other nice prizes to announce early next week so keep your eyes peeled.
As we approach semi-final week it would be great to see the total beginning to rise at a good rate - as ever we’ll keep the updates coming in here every couple of days.
CropleyWasGod
15-01-2021, 01:47 PM
A reminder that anyone who donates £25+ in January will be entered into the prize draw to win a signed, framed shirt by the Hibs player of your choice.
We also have a few other nice prizes to announce early next week so keep your eyes peeled.
As we approach semi-final week it would be great to see the total beginning to rise at a good rate - as ever we’ll keep the updates coming in here every couple of days.
I tried to donate, but came up against a problem. I used the website "contact us " facility, but haven't heard back.
Gonny check yer inbox? 😆
Daniel 1875
15-01-2021, 01:48 PM
I tried to donate, but came up against a problem. I used the website "contact us " facility, but haven't heard back.
Gonny check yer inbox? 😆
I don’t have access to the emails but if you send me a PM here I’ll do my best to help!
KdyHby
16-01-2021, 09:19 AM
Good to see the campaign highlighted in today's match email from Hibs
heid the baw
16-01-2021, 09:41 AM
Made my payment yesterday and it is pending. This was a great idea and I am fortunate enough to be able to contribute. Not everyone will be in that boat.
I was chatting to a St Johnsone fan last week and he reckons they missed a trick with this type of initiative.
He told me that saints sell pie boxes which you order and pick up from the ground to have when you are watching the game on stream. All clubs are just trying to bring in some cash and keep connected with their fans during these tough times
hibbydad
16-01-2021, 10:20 AM
Made my payment yesterday and it is pending. This was a great idea and I am fortunate enough to be able to contribute. Not everyone will be in that boat.
I was chatting to a St Johnsone fan last week and he reckons they missed a trick with this type of initiative.
He told me that saints sell pie boxes which you order and pick up from the ground to have when you are watching the game on stream. All clubs are just trying to bring in some cash and keep connected with their fans during these tough times
Very good post
Good bit of promotion there.
The Grant Stott advert there was fantastic.
mutley
16-01-2021, 02:51 PM
Good to see this is now being pushed by the club
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Vault Boy
16-01-2021, 02:52 PM
The Grant Stott advert there was fantastic.
Glad you enjoyed it. :aok:
Can't thank Grant Stott enough for his willingness to help with that one.
Danderhall Hibs
16-01-2021, 02:54 PM
Very good advert and well done Grant Stott.
Iggy Pope
16-01-2021, 04:28 PM
Good to see the club recognising things.
The money will be theirs do what they need to on the pitch after all.
Preferably put some more green bits on it.....
Vault Boy
16-01-2021, 04:40 PM
Preferably put some more green bits on it.....
Edit: The pitch needs a serious makeover, though. See that's what you meant!
Iggy Pope
16-01-2021, 04:42 PM
Good to see the club recognising things.
The money will be theirs do what they need to on the pitch after all.
Preferably put some more green bits on it.....
I was, of course, referring to the pitch.
Daniel 1875
16-01-2021, 06:14 PM
For anyone who missed the Hampden £100k video at half time today, or if you'd like to share it with friends and family, it can be viewed by clicking here (https://twitter.com/hfcsupporters/status/1350504289261805569?s=20).
CropleyWasGod
16-01-2021, 07:15 PM
I don’t have access to the emails but if you send me a PM here I’ll do my best to help!
For personal reasons, I'd prefer someone to answer my email.
Thanks 😀
OfficialHSL
16-01-2021, 07:18 PM
For personal reasons, I'd prefer someone to answer my email.
Thanks 😀
Cropley
What date did you send it ?
Hibernian Supporters
CropleyWasGod
16-01-2021, 07:24 PM
Cropley
What date did you send it ?
Hibernian Supporters
Was probably the early part of this week, through the "Contact us " on the website.
CentreLine
16-01-2021, 07:30 PM
The latest figure is £14,264. Thanks to everyone who has donated so far this month.
A reminder how to donate:
Already signed up? bit.ly/hampden100k1 (http://bit.ly/hampden100k1)
Not signed up? bit.ly/hampden100k2 (http://bit.ly/hampden100k2)
Pay by card? bit.ly/hampden100k3 (http://bit.ly/hampden100k3)
Oops. Just made a single payment donation when I was doing my man of the match thing. Never mind, it’s no loss what a friend gets.
DanishJohn
17-01-2021, 09:47 AM
I thought the HSL advert was fantastic. I found it very stirring and a great pitch to all Hibs supporters.
This is a fantastic initiative to help the club we all hold so dear.
January could be a great month for us, raise a wad of cash for our manager (a manager who I think deserves all the backing us as fans can give him)
And maybe just maybe, fingers crossed we could be in another final at Hampden.
As Grant said "Mon the Hibs !"
:flag:
Pagan Hibernia
17-01-2021, 01:57 PM
Donation made. Quick and easy process.
Scotty Leither
17-01-2021, 04:21 PM
Just ponied up my match ticket fee of £25.00.
Good luck with the rest of the campaign and even if you reach £30/40k of the £100k target it's a good effort, Daniel.
matty_f
17-01-2021, 06:00 PM
Just ponied up my match ticket fee of £25.00.
Good luck with the rest of the campaign and even if you reach £30/40k of the £100k target it's a good effort, Daniel.
Nice one. :agree:
BonnieFitbaTeam
17-01-2021, 06:20 PM
Done. Easy peasy.
matty_f
17-01-2021, 06:30 PM
Done. Easy peasy.
👍👍 great stuff!
Keep them coming folks.
Capt Mainwaring
17-01-2021, 09:14 PM
Donation made - let’s keep the momentum going👍
Franck Le God
17-01-2021, 09:55 PM
Will be a lot of folk paid in the 2nd half of the month so hoping for a big push towards the end of Jan.
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MartinfaePorty
18-01-2021, 10:01 AM
Pay day today, so that's my £25 donated :flag::thumbsup:
Vault Boy
18-01-2021, 10:16 AM
Pay day today, so that's my £25 donated :flag::thumbsup:
👏
ano hibby
18-01-2021, 11:20 AM
Donation made yesterday 👍
Daniel 1875
18-01-2021, 11:32 AM
We have a few prizes from club partners to announce this week, the first of which is 2 x £50 vouchers from the Vittoria Group. All contributors who donate £25 or more throughout January will be entered into the draw which already includes a signed, framed Hibs shirt of the winner's choice.
The news article can be viewed here (https://hiberniansupporters.co.uk/vittoria-group-back-hampden100k/).
ano hibby
18-01-2021, 11:40 AM
Excellent Daniel, meaningful prizes 👍
Pagan Hibernia
18-01-2021, 11:44 AM
We have a few prizes from club partners to announce this week, the first of which is 2 x £50 vouchers from the Vittoria Group. All contributors who donate £25 or more throughout January will be entered into the draw which already includes a signed, framed Hibs shirt of the winner's choice.
The news article can be viewed here (https://hiberniansupporters.co.uk/vittoria-group-back-hampden100k/).
that’s a great gesture :cb
flash
18-01-2021, 12:17 PM
that’s a great gesture :cb
Valid until the end of this month. Sit in only.
superfurryhibby
18-01-2021, 12:17 PM
Donation made on behalf of my children.
C’mon fellow Hibees. If you can afford it, pony up.....lol.
Pagan Hibernia
18-01-2021, 12:26 PM
Valid until the end of this month. Sit in only.
😂
Sprouleflyer
18-01-2021, 12:45 PM
Donation made 👍🏻
Pilrig_Sauzee
18-01-2021, 12:55 PM
Done. Donated my ticket and beer money, does that mean I’m not allowed a beer and eat pizza on my sofa during the match? Mrs Pilrig Sauzee says I’m not.
CB_NO3
18-01-2021, 03:10 PM
Will this be kept open till the end of the month? I know its technically after the game but a lot of folk get paid at the end of the month and will maybe contribute their ticket money then
Daniel 1875
18-01-2021, 03:13 PM
Will this be kept open till the end of the month? I know its technically after the game but a lot of folk get paid at the end of the month and will maybe contribute their ticket money then?
Yes all donations initiated before the end of the month will be included in the total. It will probably be a few days into February before we can confirm the total donated in January but we’ll still be banging the drum after the game - hopefully the team give us a hand on Saturday!
superfurryhibby
18-01-2021, 04:11 PM
Done. Donated my ticket and beer money, does that mean I’m not allowed a beer and eat pizza on my sofa during the match? Mrs Pilrig Sauzee says I’m not.
I'm giving you superfurrydispensation to do just that...…... Just remember to tidy up after yourself.
CraigHibee
18-01-2021, 05:15 PM
Done. Donated my ticket and beer money, does that mean I’m not allowed a beer and eat pizza on my sofa during the match? Mrs Pilrig Sauzee says I’m not.
Of course, tell her we said its fine and that supercede's what she advised 😉
Brooster
18-01-2021, 07:17 PM
£250 donated by East Lothian Hibs Supporters Club.
Booked4Being-Ugly
18-01-2021, 07:19 PM
£250 donated by East Lothian Hibs Supporters Club.
Outstanding, well done.
£250 donated by East Lothian Hibs Supporters Club.
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
matty_f
18-01-2021, 07:24 PM
£250 donated by East Lothian Hibs Supporters Club.
That’s brilliant!
Malthibby
18-01-2021, 07:26 PM
Done, let's keep going chaps.
GG
JimBHibees
18-01-2021, 07:29 PM
£250 donated by East Lothian Hibs Supporters Club.
:not worth
Vault Boy
18-01-2021, 07:32 PM
£250 donated by East Lothian Hibs Supporters Club.
Superb!
Power
18-01-2021, 07:35 PM
£250 donated by East Lothian Hibs Supporters Club.
Tremendous.
hibbysam
18-01-2021, 08:39 PM
£250 donated by East Lothian Hibs Supporters Club.
Outstanding mate.
Alex Trager
18-01-2021, 09:30 PM
£250 donated by East Lothian Hibs Supporters Club.
Nice one
Roxyhibee
18-01-2021, 09:38 PM
£250 donated by East Lothian Hibs Supporters Club.
Superb 👍🇳🇬
matty_f
19-01-2021, 09:18 AM
Good to see this keeping/gaining momentum. Vittorias now adding in prizes is a nice wee lift for it, and it's getting good coverage on social media as well.
How good would it be for the club if we manage to hit this target, £100k can't be far off covering a signing for a season. That signing could be the difference between us winning a cup or not... you never know!
Daniel 1875
19-01-2021, 09:22 AM
Folks we can’t thank you enough for the support on here and social media so far but we’ve got a wee ask - if you can have one conversation today with someone you go to games with who doesn’t use the forum or social media it could make a big difference.
Let them know what’s going on this month and if they’re able to, encourage them to donate.
It looks like we’re doing well to reach those on social media, on the forums and those who regularly contribute but the success of reaching the target could depend on getting the word out to others who would be at the game this weekend but don’t use the internet regularly.
Every conversation makes a difference.
Club just emailed about it.
hibee_girl
19-01-2021, 10:50 AM
Donation made :aok:
Vault Boy
19-01-2021, 10:56 AM
Club just emailed about it.
Hibs have been really supportive of this campaign, can only imagine that email will have hit a significant number of mailboxes this morning. :thumbsup:
Vault Boy
19-01-2021, 11:01 AM
Donation made :aok:
👏👏
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