Hibernian Supporters: Hampden £100k Campaign

[ahibby]

absolutely fantastic. Warms my heart on a dour january day.

Well done Hibbies! It's a remarkable effort by all concerned and especially considering the current financial climate.

[Daniel 1875]

Great stuff everyone. A performance from the fans to be proud of once again even if it’s not always matched on the pitch. Let’s hope we can break £50,000 - a huge amount of money for our club.

[matty_f]

Great stuff everyone. A performance from the fans to be proud of once again even if it’s not always matched on the pitch. Let’s hope we can break £50,000 - a huge amount of money for our club.

:agree: A great effort and the club's better off than it would have been without this initiative, so hopefully we see that reflected on the pitch soon.

It makes the result on Saturday even more frustrating, I think if we'd made it to the final this would have smashed the target.

[Pagan Hibernia]

:agree: A great effort and the club's better off than it would have been without this initiative, so hopefully we see that reflected on the pitch soon.

It makes the result on Saturday even more frustrating, I think if we'd made it to the final this would have smashed the target.

I was sceptical at first that we’d get anywhere near 100k but I think you’re right. Hibs fans have stepped up.

[Daniel 1875]

:agree: A great effort and the club's better off than it would have been without this initiative, so hopefully we see that reflected on the pitch soon.

It makes the result on Saturday even more frustrating, I think if we'd made it to the final this would have smashed the target.

Yeah I think you’re right Matty, the momentum heading into the game on Saturday really felt like we’d have got there with a positive result and final to look forward to.

Still, a massive amount of money raised for the club at a really crap time for a lot of people.

[G15 Hibs]

The £25 payment that I set up last week's gone out my account today and I've set up my monthly payment again after a wee while when it wasn't as possible. Saturday was frustrating, but Hibs are about more than Saturday.

[Gerard]

The money that HS donates to our club is money that our club will use to make our team a better one. HS is leading the way in making our club a better one. The ‘Ants Army ‘ is mobilised to help our club in a time if great difficulty.

[Daniel 1875]

Pleased to confirm the Hampden campaign has now raised over £50,000 for the club.

We hope to be in a position to confirm a final total and make the prize draw on Monday 1st February.

Thanks as always for your support.

[BILLYHIBS]

Pleased to confirm the Hampden campaign has now raised over £50,000 for the club.

We hope to be in a position to confirm a final total and make the prize draw on Monday 1st February.

Thanks as always for your support.

👍🏿

[Billy Whizz]

Pleased to confirm the Hampden campaign has now raised over £50,000 for the club.

We hope to be in a position to confirm a final total and make the prize draw on Monday 1st February.

Thanks as always for your support.
Well done the regular and the new January contributors

[andrew70]

Set up a monthly payment for 10 a month going forward.

[Iggy Pope]

Set up a monthly payment for 10 a month going forward.

Great stuff if more like you happen on the back of this IMO.

[Capt Mainwaring]

Pleased to confirm the Hampden campaign has now raised over £50,000 for the club.

We hope to be in a position to confirm a final total and make the prize draw on Monday 1st February.

Thanks as always for your support.

Great effort folks - well done and thanks for coordinating 👏👏

[O'Rourke3]

Over 50K. Brillant effort all.

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[Glory Lurker]

Great job, all.

[vinhibs]

Just paid my first ever contribution to HSL, so in that respect, i guess this campaign has been a success (im sure it will have recruited some other first timers)

[superfurryhibby]

Pleased to confirm the Hampden campaign has now raised over £50,000 for the club.

We hope to be in a position to confirm a final total and make the prize draw on Monday 1st February.

Thanks as always for your support.

Well done everyone. Superb effort.

[tamig]

Pleased to confirm the Hampden campaign has now raised over £50,000 for the club.

We hope to be in a position to confirm a final total and make the prize draw on Monday 1st February.

Thanks as always for your support.
Excellent news Daniel. Great stuff from all involved and those who have contributed.

[Daniel 1875]

Just paid my first ever contribution to HSL, so in that respect, i guess this campaign has been a success (im sure it will have recruited some other first timers)

Great stuff Vin, welcome on board

[Brooster]

Another £100 sent from East Lothian Hibs Supporters Club to supplement the £250 we sent earlier.

[Pagan Hibernia]

Pleased to confirm the Hampden campaign has now raised over £50,000 for the club.

We hope to be in a position to confirm a final total and make the prize draw on Monday 1st February.

Thanks as always for your support.

will the total announced on 1st February include the pending payments that may not hit the account until a few days later?

[G B Young]

Impressive to hear the 50k mark has been passed. I imagine we'd comfortably have reached 100k had the team played their part and reached the final!

[Keith_M]

Pleased to confirm the Hampden campaign has now raised over £50,000 for the club.

We hope to be in a position to confirm a final total and make the prize draw on Monday 1st February.

Thanks as always for your support.


That's still a very good amount raised, especially in the context of the game itself being such a letdown

[Daniel 1875]

will the total announced on 1st February include the pending payments that may not hit the account until a few days later?

As far as is possible yes. There may be a crossover with some one-off payments which clear in the bank in early February but we don’t expect these to affect the announced total significantly - as expected the number of one-off payments has dropped quite a bit since the semi final result.

There may be a slight increase in February’s contribution total which will include any of these payments.

Everyone who initiates a payment of £25+ before the end of the day tomorrow will be included in the prize draw which we hope to get done on Monday.

[JimBHibees]

Another £100 sent from East Lothian Hibs Supporters Club to supplement the £250 we sent earlier.

Fantastic :not worth

[Ronniekirk]

Excellent effort given folk are often skint in January and the current unemployment and pandemic situation


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[Gerard]

HS continues to support our club. It never ceases to amaze me how do many people give when giving is not easy.

[brythehibby]

Any update to the total gents? Imagine most of the donations have made there way through now so the final total won't move too much.

[Daniel 1875]

Any update to the total gents? Imagine most of the donations have made there way through now so the final total won't move too much.

Just waiting on the final number and the prize draw being made, will get the info shared ASAP.

[murray26]

Great effort we’ll done all💚

[Daniel 1875]

Pleased to confirm the final total for January's contribution to the club is £53,375. This represents the single highest monthly donation to the club from Hibernian Supporters since its inception in 2015.

A huge thank you to everyone who donated, shared the initiative and contributed to the discussions on here and on social media.

The full story, including the list of prize winners, can be viewed by clicking here (https://hiberniansupporters.co.uk/hampden100k-winners-announced/). A member of the board should be in touch with all winners by email to arrange your prizes.

[nlandsafchibee]

Brilliant effort from supporters and everyone at HSL

[G15 Hibs]

A big round of applause to all involved. A great total. Thanks for all the hard work you put in raising funds for our club.

[Iggy Pope]

Great stuff HSL.

[weecounty hibby]

Well done to everyone who organised this and to everyone who contributed. It would be interesting to see if the extra was made up of mostly existing contributors paying more or if we managed to get non members more involved and hopefully signed up.

[Chuck Rhoades]

Pleased to confirm the final total for January's contribution to the club is £53,375. This represents the single highest monthly donation to the club from Hibernian Supporters since its inception in 2015.

A huge thank you to everyone who donated, shared the initiative and contributed to the discussions on here and on social media.

The full story, including the list of prize winners, can be viewed by clicking here (https://hiberniansupporters.co.uk/hampden100k-winners-announced/). A member of the board should be in touch with all winners by email to arrange your prizes.

Won’t there be more to come as donations made on 31 Jan will take a few days to clear?

[eastterrace]

Pleased to confirm the final total for January's contribution to the club is £53,375. This represents the single highest monthly donation to the club from Hibernian Supporters since its inception in 2015.

A huge thank you to everyone who donated, shared the initiative and contributed to the discussions on here and on social media.

The full story, including the list of prize winners, can be viewed by clicking here (https://hiberniansupporters.co.uk/hampden100k-winners-announced/). A member of the board should be in touch with all winners by email to arrange your prizes.brilliant total and here was some hibs fans saying we lucky get 10,000 pounds always the pessimist these guys.

[Power]

Fantastic ✅

[truehibernian]

Brilliant total, keep saying it but although times are hard for everyone, but if anyone who can afford to can forsake even a couple of bottles of plonk they usually enjoy a month, and put it into the club, we'd be achieving this kind of total month to month.

Superb effort and thanks to Daniel and Co :aok:

[DaveF]

Well done to all who made this happen.

Shows the potential is there if everyone gets on board.

[Daniel 1875]

Won’t there be more to come as donations made on 31 Jan will take a few days to clear?

Yeah you’re right, there might be a few odd payments which will be included in February’s total but one off donations were few and far between in the last few days of the month so shouldn’t account for a large sum.

[04Sauzee]

Fantastic effort.
Hopefully be a decent amount collected in February as well.

[matty_f]

A lot of credit goes to those who kept this going on the social media platforms, and to Hibs for getting right behind it.

I don’t have any doubt that a success in the semi final would have seen us smash the target with the feel-good factor and the final to look forward to.

Hats off to everyone who donated and gave the club a very welcome boost.

[Ronniekirk]

Great initiative great total


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[wallpaperman]

I don’t know if I am the only one thinking this and people are scared to say it, but what the hell, but I am pretty disappointed in the total, though not totally surprised.

If the £53k includes the regular January subs (and their has been nothing to suggest otherwise), then in reality the campaign has netted an extra £33k.

If you break that down and say that everyone contributed £25, then that is around 1300 supporters. We know that some supporters clubs put in a lot more than that, as probably did some individuals so the real number of individual contributors is even lower.

To me, that is a big disappointment, despite the circumstances we are in at the moment.

In my opinion HSL promoted this brilliantly, as did the club themselves, so with that is mind I think that HSL is never going to get an awful lot bigger than it is now, barring some Hearts style near extinction event which might just galvanise people better.

Not that approximately £250k per year is not worthwhile, it is, but we should be able to raise much more than that based on our core support.

[superfurryhibby]

I don’t know if I am the only one thinking this and people are scared to say it, but what the hell, but I am pretty disappointed in the total, though not totally surprised.

If the £53k includes the regular January subs (and their has been nothing to suggest otherwise), then in reality the campaign has netted an extra £33k.

If you break that down and say that everyone contributed £25, then that is around 1300 supporters. We know that some supporters clubs put in a lot more than that, as probably did some individuals so the real number of individual contributors is even lower.

To me, that is a big disappointment, despite the circumstances we are in at the moment.

In my opinion HSL promoted this brilliantly, as did the club themselves, so with that is mind I think that HSL is never going to get an awful lot bigger than it is now, barring some Hearts style near extinction event which might just galvanise people better.

Not that approximately £250k per year is not worthwhile, it is, but we should be able to raise much more than that based on our core support.

January is always a tight month, after early Christmas pay and all the festive spend. If we had actually won the damned semi final the final total would be have been way higher.

Personally I’m surprised and delighted the final amount is so high. The fans are really backing the club and our efforts help make a difference.

[Iggy Pope]

I don’t know if I am the only one thinking this and people are scared to say it, but what the hell, but I am pretty disappointed in the total, though not totally surprised.

If the £53k includes the regular January subs (and their has been nothing to suggest otherwise), then in reality the campaign has netted an extra £33k.

If you break that down and say that everyone contributed £25, then that is around 1300 supporters. We know that some supporters clubs put in a lot more than that, as probably did some individuals so the real number of individual contributors is even lower.

To me, that is a big disappointment, despite the circumstances we are in at the moment.

In my opinion HSL promoted this brilliantly, as did the club themselves, so with that is mind I think that HSL is never going to get an awful lot bigger than it is now, barring some Hearts style near extinction event which might just galvanise people better.

Not that approximately £250k per year is not worthwhile, it is, but we should be able to raise much more than that based on our core support.

The £33k or so is more than I thought it would be. Times are tight and there’s still a lot of apathy and stagnation towards HSL amongst us. The fellahs worked hard at this though, no doubt, and it’s money for nothing as far as Hibs are concerned. I hope they appreciate it, they’re sometimes a bit slow to show it.

[Gerard]

HS and the many generous donations that it has been given to help our club in these turbulent times is a great success to all who work for HS and donate to HS. Our club will find a good use for the donations that it is given by HS😇

[allmodcons]

Can anyone tell me what they have averaged per month in the last year?

[Iggy Pope]

Can anyone tell me what they have averaged per month in the last year?

Post #165 offers a nod towards this.

[JohnM1875]

I don’t know if I am the only one thinking this and people are scared to say it, but what the hell, but I am pretty disappointed in the total, though not totally surprised.

If the £53k includes the regular January subs (and their has been nothing to suggest otherwise), then in reality the campaign has netted an extra £33k.

If you break that down and say that everyone contributed £25, then that is around 1300 supporters. We know that some supporters clubs put in a lot more than that, as probably did some individuals so the real number of individual contributors is even lower.

To me, that is a big disappointment, despite the circumstances we are in at the moment.

In my opinion HSL promoted this brilliantly, as did the club themselves, so with that is mind I think that HSL is never going to get an awful lot bigger than it is now, barring some Hearts style near extinction event which might just galvanise people better.

Not that approximately £250k per year is not worthwhile, it is, but we should be able to raise much more than that based on our core support.

Surely the 53k doesn't include the regular monthly income? This is a separate campaign so it should only be money raised for that campaign? I could be wrong, of course.

[Vault Boy]

Surely the 53k doesn't include the regular monthly income? This is a separate campaign so it should only be money raised for that campaign? I could be wrong, of course.

£53K is the sum of the whole January contribution :aok:

[allmodcons]

Post #165 offers a nod towards this.

Thanks, so circa £20k per month.

[Iggy Pope]

Thanks, so circa £20k per month.

Seems so.

[Pagan Hibernia]

I think it’s a great total, personally, and this campaign has seemingly brought many more into the HSL fold who will hopefully be regular contributors in the months and years ahead. The challenge now is to try aiming for £50k every month.

[Brooster]

Brilliant effort from the organisers and those who contributed at a difficult time of year. You could've collected £153k and some folk still would've felt the need to complain.

[Gerard]

The more money that HS can donate to Hibs when times are tight us amazing. The money could be the difference to qualifying for Europe and winning cups.

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

I don’t know if I am the only one thinking this and people are scared to say it, but what the hell, but I am pretty disappointed in the total, though not totally surprised.

If the £53k includes the regular January subs (and their has been nothing to suggest otherwise), then in reality the campaign has netted an extra £33k.

If you break that down and say that everyone contributed £25, then that is around 1300 supporters. We know that some supporters clubs put in a lot more than that, as probably did some individuals so the real number of individual contributors is even lower.

To me, that is a big disappointment, despite the circumstances we are in at the moment.

In my opinion HSL promoted this brilliantly, as did the club themselves, so with that is mind I think that HSL is never going to get an awful lot bigger than it is now, barring some Hearts style near extinction event which might just galvanise people better.

Not that approximately £250k per year is not worthwhile, it is, but we should be able to raise much more than that based on our core support.

Totally agree with your sentiments.

There’s a heck of a lot of Hibs fans still not contributing to the cause.

Of course it’s their right not to but still disappointing when you compare it to other schemes and I’m not having a go at HSL who are trying their best. Neither am I having a go at fans who contribute or have contributed in the past.

[Juniper Greens]

Brilliant effort from the organisers and those who contributed at a difficult time of year. You could've collected £153k and some folk still would've felt the need to complain.

I don't think wallpaperman is complaining. I think some of what he is saying makes sense. The HSL team have done a brilliant job and its great to see the club getting £30k that they wouldn't have otherwise. The amounts are just a bit disappointing, in spite of the efforts. There are a million and one reasons for this, so its not right to criticise anyone, the point stands that even with a great campaign like this, we haven't been able to get close to what FOH contribute, which is a worry if they ever get their act together

[BlackSheep]

I don’t know if I am the only one thinking this and people are scared to say it, but what the hell, but I am pretty disappointed in the total, though not totally surprised.

If the £53k includes the regular January subs (and their has been nothing to suggest otherwise), then in reality the campaign has netted an extra £33k.

If you break that down and say that everyone contributed £25, then that is around 1300 supporters. We know that some supporters clubs put in a lot more than that, as probably did some individuals so the real number of individual contributors is even lower.

To me, that is a big disappointment, despite the circumstances we are in at the moment.

In my opinion HSL promoted this brilliantly, as did the club themselves, so with that is mind I think that HSL is never going to get an awful lot bigger than it is now, barring some Hearts style near extinction event which might just galvanise people better.

Not that approximately £250k per year is not worthwhile, it is, but we should be able to raise much more than that based on our core support.

I wholeheartedly agree with this post. While the amount is great, it is also disappointing we could only muster a third of our goal for this campaign.

Can we also get some clarification on whether this amount does or does not include the regular monthly contribution (average 20K IIRC).

This was a great campaign and i do feel that it was promoted very well also, with constant references during the coverage of matches on hibstv and hibspass, twitter, facebook, instagram, forums, etc, etc, etc.

I for one was lucky enough to be able to contribute more than the expected £25 and was hoping that a fair few others in similar positions would also donate over and above the average... with the numbers we are seeing i almost hope that there were more £25 donations than higher amounts, it would give me some faith that there are large numbers of fans willing to support these campaigns, rather than fewer who are lucky enough to dog a little deeper.

Well done to everyone at HSL for this campaign and hopefully another well placed campaign is in the works... perhaps if the Scottish Cup goes ahead a 'Road to Hampden' campaign or even better if we qualify for Europe a 'Road to Europe' campaign?

[Daniel 1875]

I wholeheartedly agree with this post. While the amount is great, it is also disappointing we could only muster a third of our goal for this campaign.

Can we also get some clarification on whether this amount does or does not include the regular monthly contribution (average 20K IIRC).

This was a great campaign and i do feel that it was promoted very well also, with constant references during the coverage of matches on hibstv and hibspass, twitter, facebook, instagram, forums, etc, etc, etc.

I for one was lucky enough to be able to contribute more than the expected £25 and was hoping that a fair few others in similar positions would also donate over and above the average... with the numbers we are seeing i almost hope that there were more £25 donations than higher amounts, it would give me some faith that there are large numbers of fans willing to support these campaigns, rather than fewer who are lucky enough to dog a little deeper.

Well done to everyone at HSL for this campaign and hopefully another well placed campaign is in the works... perhaps if the Scottish Cup goes ahead a 'Road to Hampden' campaign or even better if we qualify for Europe a 'Road to Europe' campaign?

The total figure is all contributions, regular and one-off, made throughout January.

The goal was to raise £100k for the club in January, including the regular payments which amount to around £20,000 a month at the moment. On that basis the campaign made more than 50% of the intended target.

I’ve little doubt we would have surpassed the target if we had made the cup final - it’s just the way these things tend to go.

We’re always open to new ideas and I’m sure there will be more of these types of campaigns when the time is right. In the meantime our goal continues to be to provide regular financial support to the club through regular monthly donations.

It’s been said numerous times but the most successful supporter finance initiatives are strong on the back of lots of smaller regular donations.

While the £53,000 is a large sum at an important point of the season we will keep focussing on trying to increase the monthly figure by attracting more ordinary fans on board - hopefully initiatives like the third kit, Francks draws and #Hampden£100k will encourage others to join.

[BlackSheep]

The total figure is all contributions, regular and one-off, made throughout January.

The goal was to raise £100k for the club in January, including the regular payments which amount to around £20,000 a month at the moment. On that basis the campaign made more than 50% of the intended target.

I’ve little doubt we would have surpassed the target if we had made the cup final - it’s just the way these things tend to go.

We’re always open to new ideas and I’m sure there will be more of these types of campaigns when the time is right. In the meantime our goal continues to be to provide regular financial support to the club through regular monthly donations.

It’s been said numerous times but the most successful supporter finance initiatives are strong on the back of lots of smaller regular donations.

While the £53,000 is a large sum at an important point of the season we will keep focussing on trying to increase the monthly figure by attracting more ordinary fans on board - hopefully initiatives like the third kit, Francks draws and #Hampden£100k will encourage others to join.

I don't think i am the only one who thought the goal of £100K was over and above the regular payments.

[JohnM1875]

I don't think i am the only one who thought the goal of £100K was over and above the regular payments.

You're not. I definitely thought it was a sole campaign.

[banchoryhibs]

I don't think i am the only one who thought the goal of £100K was over and above the regular payments.

You'll see from Daniel's post that kicked off this thread that, "The campaign is bold and aims to raise £100,000 for the football budget throughout the month of January, for context this is around five times the amount contributed on a monthly basis."

This was an ambitious initiative and it also acknowledged that in these uncertain times only those who could comfortably manage to make a contribution should do so.

Given our cup disappointment and the continuing Covid crisis the final total is fantastic and is a huge credit to our support as a whole. :not worth

The social media promotion was first class - the folk involved should take a bow:wink:

Let's hope that we can build on this over the rest of the season:flag:

[DanishJohn]

You'll see from Daniel's post that kicked off this thread that, "The campaign is bold and aims to raise £100,000 for the football budget throughout the month of January, for context this is around five times the amount contributed on a monthly basis."

This was an ambitious initiative and it also acknowledged that in these uncertain times only those who could comfortably manage to make a contribution should do so.

Given our cup disappointment and the continuing Covid crisis the final total is fantastic and is a huge credit to our support as a whole. :not worth

The social media promotion was first class - the folk involved should take a bow:wink:

Let's hope that we can build on this over the rest of the season:flag:



Sorry Banchory but have to slightly disagree with you.

The final figure was not a huge credit to our support as a whole.
It was a huge credit to the Hibernians who put their hands in their pockets.

Some poor souls are really toiling just now financially and struggling even to heat and feed themselves. They rightly stand aside.

More people could have contributed but didn't.

[superfurryhibby]

Sorry Banchory but have to slightly disagree with you.

The final figure was not a huge credit to our support as a whole.
It was a huge credit to the Hibernians who put their hands in their pockets.

Some poor souls are really toiling just now financially and struggling even to heat and feed themselves. They rightly stand aside.

More people could have contributed but didn't.

Nah, too divisive a view. People are free to give what they can when it comes to this kind of initiative. I think it's something we can all take some pride in, contribution or not.

My only mildly critical observation would be that we don't aim too high with the targeted figures.

AS a few have said, here's hoping it kickstarts a rise in the monthly donation going forward.

[jacomo]

Totally agree with your sentiments.

There’s a heck of a lot of Hibs fans still not contributing to the cause.

Of course it’s their right not to but still disappointing when you compare it to other schemes and I’m not having a go at HSL who are trying their best. Neither am I having a go at fans who contribute or have contributed in the past.


Given that shares are no longer on the table (the original purpose of HSL) plenty of fans will be giving to the club directly, through Hibs Pass, merchandise and the like. That is perfectly reasonable and cannot be discounted.

I do find it ironic though that the Farmer Out brigade helped to undermine trust in an initiative to hand over a significant chunk of ownership to the fans. Very odd behaviour.

[nlandsafchibee]

I dont think the 100k target was too high .The logic behind it was sound 4000 x £25 as average home match attendances around 16-17000.
Whilst there are difficult times at present I am sure that if the fans had been allowed to go, whether 4000 (or greater) the money for tickets ,transport,merch,food ,drink would have been found one way or another.
If people who genuinely could not make a contribution but passed on the info to others who may have contributed then they deserve thanks also.
Whilst not wanting to make extra work for Daniel perhaps the Finance company could give idea on
a) Number of new payees into the campaign over and above December payees.
b) Average contribution of those .
c) At end of Feb how many new 1 off or new monthly contributors there are.
If Finance company have any decent computer programme this should be easy to supply .
The re awakening of the profile of past supporters and exposure to new people of HSL well this campaign has been sucessful. By how much will then be seen .

[RyeSloan]

The campaign raised an extra £33k in one month. That’s a success in anyone’s book!

Was the target too ambitious? Maybe but if you don’t try you don’t succeed.

A couple of lessons for future campaigned might be along the likes of the following:

Make it easier for people to contribute. I get there was a stripe option but it wasn’t clear and the sheer volume of queries on the DD thing on this thread shows that it wasn’t straight forward for all.

A simple link to a simple contribution method would have made the campaign much more ‘shareable’.

Allied to the above a totaliser page where anyone and everyone can see the progress being made. It shouldn’t be understated how a simple visual can help drive interest...a bit like the excitement we get on the dot count games where you can see the number of seats left and what’s needed to get to a sell out.

I know there is extra costs etc. but if you think how just giving works you get the idea. A simple link
That takes someone to a single page where they see the fund raise idea, how much has been contributed and a simple link to add to the total. These sites are set up like that for a reason and I think this campaign suffered without something similar.

But in the end of the day it was a very valiant effort in difficult times that achieved a lot despite the ultimate beneficiary rather undermining the whole damn thing with that semi performance!!!

[superfurryhibby]

Given that shares are no longer on the table (the original purpose of HSL) plenty of fans will be giving to the club directly, through Hibs Pass, merchandise and the like. That is perfectly reasonable and cannot be discounted.

I do find it ironic though that the Farmer Out brigade helped to undermine trust in an initiative to hand over a significant chunk of ownership to the fans. Very odd behaviour.

I agree pretty much with everything you say, but the mention of shares and the Farmer out guys triggers some conflicting feelings.

Gordon’s purchase of the club ended up diluting HSL’s shareholding by 4%. That equalled £250,000 of fans money. Some small shareholders I know, like me, were thinking of donating their shares to HSL if the6 were close to the 25% mark.

No matter how you look £250k isn’t chicken feed. I don’t really care about business practices etc, that to me was a bit shan. I’ll add a caveat that my arithmetic may be wrong, but that’s as I remember it.

[Iggy Pope]

I don't think i am the only one who thought the goal of £100K was over and above the regular payments.


You're not. I definitely thought it was a sole campaign.

Thrice.
But it was clarified pretty early on in this thread.

[Gmack7]

Hopefully the February amount is more than the usual monthly average

[wallpaperman]

Given that shares are no longer on the table (the original purpose of HSL) plenty of fans will be giving to the club directly, through Hibs Pass, merchandise and the like. That is perfectly reasonable and cannot be discounted.



If anyone is still holding the share purchase withdrawal as a stick to beat the club with, they really need to get over it if they truly have the best interests of the club at heart.

I can’t believe anyone is giving money directly to the club rather than through HSL, they would be just chucking money away to the taxman when there is absolutely no need.

You can’t really compare Hibs pass and merchandise to HSL as you are getting a product in return for your money, so not comparing like for like.

[matty_f]

I dont think the 100k target was too high .The logic behind it was sound 4000 x £25 as average home match attendances around 16-17000.
Whilst there are difficult times at present I am sure that if the fans had been allowed to go, whether 4000 (or greater) the money for tickets ,transport,merch,food ,drink would have been found one way or another.
If people who genuinely could not make a contribution but passed on the info to others who may have contributed then they deserve thanks also.
Whilst not wanting to make extra work for Daniel perhaps the Finance company could give idea on
a) Number of new payees into the campaign over and above December payees.
b) Average contribution of those .
c) At end of Feb how many new 1 off or new monthly contributors there are.
If Finance company have any decent computer programme this should be easy to supply .
The re awakening of the profile of past supporters and exposure to new people of HSL well this campaign has been sucessful. By how much will then be seen .

I don’t think the target was too high either. It was ambitious but you’re looking at appealing to a fifth to a quarter of the support that we could have taken to Hampden to donate £25.

I genuinely think if we’d got past St Johnstone, the target would have been smashed.

I’d love to see HSL do more campaigns like this. It was an overwhelmingly positive campaign, backed by the club and not only did it raise money for Hibs, it also raised awareness for HSL and hopefully made an impact positively on the regular donations.

HSL are a significant shareholder in the club, it does have, imho, a responsibility to continue to contribute financially to the club (as does Ron Gordon, to a greater degree).

There’s so much we can do collectively for Hibs - there’s no reason for us to be behind similar sized clubs if we all get behind it.

[Gerard]

I don’t think the target was too high either. It was ambitious but you’re looking at appealing to a fifth to a quarter of the support that we could have taken to Hampden to donate £25.

I genuinely think if we’d got past St Johnstone, the target would have been smashed.

I’d love to see HSL do more campaigns like this. It was an overwhelmingly positive campaign, backed by the club and not only did it raise money for Hibs, it also raised awareness for HSL and hopefully made an impact positively on the regular donations.

HSL are a significant shareholder in the club, it does have, imho, a responsibility to continue to contribute financially to the club (as does Ron Gordon, to a greater degree).

There’s so much we can do collectively for Hibs - there’s no reason for us to be behind similar sized clubs if we all get behind it.

HS is the second largest shareholder with approx 15.4 percent and Mr Gordon almost 67percent . HS should have a director on the Hibs Board to represent its interests !

[Pagan Hibernia]

I don’t think the target was too high either. It was ambitious but you’re looking at appealing to a fifth to a quarter of the support that we could have taken to Hampden to donate £25.

I genuinely think if we’d got past St Johnstone, the target would have been smashed.

I’d love to see HSL do more campaigns like this. It was an overwhelmingly positive campaign, backed by the club and not only did it raise money for Hibs, it also raised awareness for HSL and hopefully made an impact positively on the regular donations.

HSL are a significant shareholder in the club, it does have, imho, a responsibility to continue to contribute financially to the club (as does Ron Gordon, to a greater degree).

There’s so much we can do collectively for Hibs - there’s no reason for us to be behind similar sized clubs if we all get behind it.

your 4th paragraph is key for me. And it’s the reason I didn’t walk away from HSL in a huff after the shares were withdrawn (I did think about it). As the second largest shareholder we should be continuing to help the club out financially.

[B.H.F.C]

I genuinely think if we’d got past St Johnstone, the target would have been smashed.

No doubt target would have been reached IMO. These things are all about momentum and the result at Hampden totally killed that.

What was raised is decent money for the club and credit to those who did donate.

[hibbysam]

Our monthly payments have fluctuated, mostly around £20k but I’m sure there’s been months when it’s been down as well, January being the toughest of them all for majority, let alone in the middle of a pandemic, then it wouldn’t have been a surprise if that amount ended up being far lower. This campaign has resulted in £53k that the club don't budget for, and probably went a long way to securing the likes of Irvine and Cadden. Ambitious target but a success nonetheless and a credit to all the HSL guys for pushing it.

Same argument about the season tickets, it’s all about the club we love firstly surviving this period, and secondly improving, if you can afford it then get involved. We will reap the benefits of this for years while other clubs are scaling back to the bare bones, selling their assets and replacing them with short term loans.

[superfurryhibby]

HS is the second largest shareholder with approx 15.4 percent and Mr Gordon almost 67percent . HS should have a director on the Hibs Board to represent its interests !


Are the rest of the shares owned by the small shareholders? I didn't realise the overall figure was as high for HSL/small shareholders. Not bad considering the increased shares issued at purchase.

[Pagan Hibernia]

Are the rest of the shares owned by the small shareholders? I didn't realise the overall figure was as high for HSL/small shareholders. Not bad considering the increased shares issued at purchase.

a third of the club is in the hands of HSL, individual supporter shareholders, and the mysterious faceless nominee holdings.

[Daniel 1875]

Are the rest of the shares owned by the small shareholders? I didn't realise the overall figure was as high for HSL/small shareholders. Not bad considering the increased shares issued at purchase.

The shareholding of the club is roughly split:

67% - Ron Gordon (Bydand Sports)
15.4% - Hibernian Supporters Ltd
10% - Unnamed nominee shareholder(s)
7.6% - Fans/independent shareholders

[bigwheel]

The shareholding of the club is roughly split:

67% - Ron Gordon
15.4% - Hibernian Supporters Ltd
10% - Unnamed nominee shareholder(s)
7.6% - Fans/independent shareholders

The minority shareholders working together would be able to block any special resolutions or changes of articles if they weighed in together above 25% ...let’s hope it’s never required ....

[Daniel 1875]

The minority shareholders working together would be able to block any special resolutions or changes of articles if they weighed in together above 25% ...let’s hope it’s never required ....

The difficulty is that at the moment very few people know who the 10% shareholder(s) is/are and therefore it’s impossible to know what their intentions would be if there was ever any big decisions to be made with shareholder backing. Can’t guarantee they’d weigh in with the fans/HS.

[bigwheel]

The difficulty is that at the moment very few people know who the 10% shareholder(s) is/are and therefore it’s impossible to know what their intentions would be if there was ever any big decisions to be made with shareholder backing. Can’t guarantee they’d weigh in with the fans/HS.

Very true. Anyway to find out who has it ?

[Daniel 1875]

Very true. Anyway to find out who has it ?

No, the shares are held under various nominee holdings - quite a lot of them named after places in Edinburgh - and any individuals behind them have a right to anonymity I believe.

[Gerard]

Are the rest of the shares owned by the small shareholders? I didn't realise the overall figure was as high for HSL/small shareholders. Not bad considering the increased shares issued at purchase.

Yes mostly small share holdings but a nominee has a ten percent share
Identity not publicly known
At present you can not give your shares to HS or sell them to HS as this requires Hibs board permission.

[Iggy Pope]

Anyone around in 1990 will be getting jittery reading some of the latter posts here.

[Bishop Hibee]

Anyone around in 1990 will be getting jittery reading some of the latter posts here.

Yup. It was easy to criticise STF for not pouring money into Hibs but the fans knew he’d never sell us down the swanny.

[jacomo]

Anyone around in 1990 will be getting jittery reading some of the latter posts here.


I don’t feel jittery. I have confidence that Ron Gordon is a decent guy, and therefore there is no reason for concern. By all accounts his investment in Hibs is secure and he’s not trying to leverage it into some high risk venture that could imperil the club.

[Ringothedog]

Anyone around in 1990 will be getting jittery reading some of the latter posts here.

Why would I be jittery? We have an owner who has invested in our club, is guiding us through the most difficult financial situations in decades. The chances are we will be even stronger going forward

[offshorehibby]

Anyone around in 1990 will be getting jittery reading some of the latter posts here.


Yup. It was easy to criticise STF for not pouring money into Hibs but the fans knew he’d never sell us down the swanny.

Something stick in my mind that when Hibs had the last round of share sales a few years back that investors were basically vetted by the board which would have been RP and STF, so i feel confident they didn't sell to some Arthur Daley type.

Although there is the chance i have just imagined that

[Pagan Hibernia]

I don’t feel jittery. I have confidence that Ron Gordon is a decent guy, and therefore there is no reason for concern. By all accounts his investment in Hibs is secure and he’s not trying to leverage it into some high risk venture that could imperil the club.

it wouldn’t be Ron Gordon that would worry me. I have no doubt that Tom Farmer did his homework and found the right man. The fact we are reasonably stable financially through this covid mess and didn’t jump at the chance to cash in on nisbet and porteous would seem to back that up.

having said that... nothing ever lasts forever. At some point in the future Ron Gordon will no longer be the majority shareholder. It’s who follows him, and who follows the people that follow him that would be the concern. And that’s why it still sticks in my craw and many others that HSL wasn’t backed more when shares were available.

anyway. That’s a problem for the future. Back on topic, it’s been a great month for HSL and hopefully we continue to back the club going forward.

[hibbydad]

it wouldn’t be Ron Gordon that would worry me. I have no doubt that Tom Farmer did his homework and found the right man. The fact we are reasonably stable financially through this covid mess and didn’t jump at the chance to cash in on nisbet and porteous would seem to back that up.

having said that... nothing ever lasts forever. At some point in the future Ron Gordon will no longer be the majority shareholder. It’s who follows him, and who follows the people that follow him that would be the concern. And that’s why it still sticks in my craw and many others that HSL wasn’t backed more when shares were available.

anyway. That’s a problem for the future. Back on topic, it’s been a great month for HSL and hopefully we continue to back the club going forward.
Excellent post Pagan I could not agree more

[Bostonhibby]

it wouldn’t be Ron Gordon that would worry me. I have no doubt that Tom Farmer did his homework and found the right man. The fact we are reasonably stable financially through this covid mess and didn’t jump at the chance to cash in on nisbet and porteous would seem to back that up.

having said that... nothing ever lasts forever. At some point in the future Ron Gordon will no longer be the majority shareholder. It’s who follows him, and who follows the people that follow him that would be the concern. And that’s why it still sticks in my craw and many others that HSL wasn’t backed more when shares were available.

anyway. That’s a problem for the future. Back on topic, it’s been a great month for HSL and hopefully we continue to back the club going forward.Yep, agree every word of this. My biggest regret will always be that we weren't able to get, or weren't allowed to get that meaningful defensive block of shares, however it came about. That was the goal for me when HSL started.

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[blackpoolhibs]

While we can never be 100% sure on anyone who owns the club, Ron's actions since buying the majority of the clubs shares have been very good.

In fact, if this pandemic had not happened, i'm convinced we'd be even further on with the progress we are clearly making.

The future is bright. :top marks

[Bostonhibby]

While we can never be 100% sure on anyone who owns the club, Ron's actions since buying the majority of the clubs shares have been very good.

In fact, if this pandemic had not happened, i'm convinced we'd be even further on with the progress we are clearly making.

The future is bright. :top marks[emoji106]

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[matty_f]

While we can never be 100% sure on anyone who owns the club, Ron's actions since buying the majority of the clubs shares have been very good.

In fact, if this pandemic had not happened, i'm convinced we'd be even further on with the progress we are clearly making.

The future is bright. :top marks

Spot on BH. :agree:

[04Sauzee]

While we can never be 100% sure on anyone who owns the club, Ron's actions since buying the majority of the clubs shares have been very good.

In fact, if this pandemic had not happened, i'm convinced we'd be even further on with the progress we are clearly making.

The future is bright. :top marks

Absolutely agree with this post.

[jacomo]

Yep, agree every word of this. My biggest regret will always be that we weren't able to get, or weren't allowed to get that meaningful defensive block of shares, however it came about. That was the goal for me when HSL started.

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The uptake simply wasn’t quick enough to reach that 25% threshold for a board member to represent HSL. Then Ron bought into the club and paused the share purchase scheme, which he was entitled to do.

I bet Ron would like to know who owns the 10% too and would probably buy those shares if he could. As none of us know who it is, let’s assume for now it is a benign factor - perhaps just a very wealthy Hibs fan who doesn’t want to run the club but wanted to ensure it is protected from predators.

[Bostonhibby]

The uptake simply wasn’t quick enough to reach that 25% threshold for a board member to represent HSL. Then Ron bought into the club and paused the share purchase scheme, which he was entitled to do.

I bet Ron would like to know who owns the 10% too and would probably buy those shares if he could. As none of us know who it is, let’s assume for now it is a benign factor - perhaps just a very wealthy Hibs fan who doesn’t want to run the club but wanted to ensure it is protected from predators.

I agree, there's quite a few perfectly good reasons for nominee holdings, think I've said before I know one good Hibby whose family think he sinks enough money into following Hibs so he's likely to be one[emoji16]

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[Valencia]

Have the accounts for the last financial year been issued. I have the accounts to 2nd July 2019 but not to end of June 2020.

[CropleyWasGod]

Have the accounts for the last financial year been issued. I have the accounts to 2nd July 2019 but not to end of June 2020.

The Club?

Not yet. Will probably be a while. They don't have to be lodged until the summer.

[Iggy Pope]

I don’t feel jittery. I have confidence that Ron Gordon is a decent guy, and therefore there is no reason for concern. By all accounts his investment in Hibs is secure and he’s not trying to leverage it into some high risk venture that could imperil the club.


Why would I be jittery? We have an owner who has invested in our club, is guiding us through the most difficult financial situations in decades. The chances are we will be even stronger going forward

Jittery in as much as a lot of the narrative in these recent posts takes me back to a time when the front pages were getting read before the back pages. Bad memories, for me anyway, you guys less so obviously.

[RyeSloan]

The uptake simply wasn’t quick enough to reach that 25% threshold for a board member to represent HSL. Then Ron bought into the club and paused the share purchase scheme, which he was entitled to do.

I bet Ron would like to know who owns the 10% too and would probably buy those shares if he could. As none of us know who it is, let’s assume for now it is a benign factor - perhaps just a very wealthy Hibs fan who doesn’t want to run the club but wanted to ensure it is protected from predators.

Maybe I’m wrong but I didn’t think the 10% was a single nominee holding. I had assume it was a sign it number of different nominee holdings that made up the 10% ergo a variety of individuals not just one person....

[CropleyWasGod]

Maybe I’m wrong but I didn’t think the 10% was a single nominee holding. I had assume it was a sign it number of different nominee holdings that made up the 10% ergo a variety of individuals not just one person....

It's not.

[RyeSloan]

It's not.

Thought as much. Thanks. [emoji736]

[matty_f]

Just to show the potential with this kind of thing, over 2000 Hearts fans bought tickets for Inverness this week. Not even their own club.


I’m sure the tickets weren’t close to £25, but still shows what can be achieved if receive gets behind something.

[DaveF]

Just to show the potential with this kind of thing, over 2000 Hearts fans bought tickets for Inverness this week. Not even their own club.


I’m sure the tickets weren’t close to £25, but still shows what can be achieved if receive gets behind something.

Why?

[Pagan Hibernia]

Why?

didn’t Inverness back them last summer? I can’t even remember

[hibbysam]

Just to show the potential with this kind of thing, over 2000 Hearts fans bought tickets for Inverness this week. Not even their own club.


I’m sure the tickets weren’t close to £25, but still shows what can be achieved if receive gets behind something.

That’s due to them having some massive chip on their shoulder about the rest of the league, and ICT backing them both in the summer and in 2013 when they were about to go under. Shameless.

[Pagan Hibernia]

That’s due to them having some massive chip on their shoulder about the rest of the league, and ICT backing them both in the summer and in 2013 when they were about to go under. Shameless.

ive always quite liked ICT. May have to rethink that.

[matty_f]

That’s due to them having some massive chip on their shoulder about the rest of the league, and ICT backing them both in the summer and in 2013 when they were about to go under. Shameless.

I know, but it shows what can be achieved. (I think the tickets were a fiver or a tenner for one signed by John Roberson, so not exactly comparable to HS’s campaign).

[hibbysam]

ive always quite liked ICT. May have to rethink that.

Jambo welt as CEO, Jambo welt as manager, let Butcher come to us. Aye no fond of them myself. Far prefer County.

[Brooster]

Just to show the potential with this kind of thing, over 2000 Hearts fans bought tickets for Inverness this week. Not even their own club.


I’m sure the tickets weren’t close to £25, but still shows what can be achieved if receive gets behind something.
What point are you trying to make? I couldn't care less what they are up to.

[Peevemor]

What point are you trying to make? I couldn't care less what they are up to.

"Just to show the potential with this kind of thing..."

[matty_f]

What point are you trying to make? I couldn't care less what they are up to.

Showing that there is potential in this kind of idea if everyone gets behind it.

[DaveF]

Showing that there is potential in this kind of idea if everyone gets behind it.

We all saw the potential with the semi final campaign.

I'm not sure what you have achieved by pointing out 2000 pricks with massive chips on their shoulder?

[Dalianwanda]

We all saw the potential with the semi final campaign.

I'm not sure what you have achieved by pointing out 2000 pricks with massive chips on their shoulder?
Doesn’t matter the reason but if there’s a common narrative that chimes with supporters they will buy in. (just so happens they buy in to a sense of injustice & spite 😉)

[Wheat Hound]

A renewed campaign that would help in funding a contract for Jackson Irvine (and others) would incentivise I'm sure!

[DanishJohn]

Good good point Matty.

I get your post. It's about the power of the collective. Shows what can be harnessed by a group acting as one.
HSL have done a brilliant job in getting some funds into the club and without doubt it's showing in the calibre of player we now have on the park.

For anyone saying they are not interested in what Hearts are doing I would urge them to look at it very very carefully.
If they manage to really get their act together, then all the money that they receive from fans might come back to haunt us big time.
I have lived through us dominating them mid 60s to early 80s but also lived through 22 games in a row when we couldn't beat them and two Hampden Hidings.
Not nice.

Lets get the 4000 great Hibernians to 6000 and then 8000 !

:flag:

[wallpaperman]

Good good point Matty.

I get your post. It's about the power of the collective. Shows what can be harnessed by a group acting as one.
HSL have done a brilliant job in getting some funds into the club and without doubt it's showing in the calibre of player we now have on the park.

For anyone saying they are not interested in what Hearts are doing I would urge them to look at it very very carefully.
If they manage to really get their act together, then all the money that they receive from fans might come back to haunt us big time.
I have lived through us dominating them mid 60s to early 80s but also lived through 22 games in a row when we couldn't beat them and two Hampden Hidings.
Not nice.

Lets get the 4000 great Hibernians to 6000 and then 8000 !

:flag:

Good post Danish John, what you have said was in the back of my mind when I was maybe the first person a few days ago to stick my head above the parapet and say I was a little disappointed with the total we raised in the campaign.

I hate praising them, but it’s an undeniable fact that if they ever get someone competent to run the club, they will sadly have much more spend on players than we do (and that’s without the sugar daddy’s cash) in the long run.

[Gerard]

The more money our club gets the more ability it will have to sign better players. Our neighbours continue to show they are able to raise a lot of money through their foundation to support their club in signing players

[WhileTheChief..]

Good post Danish John, what you have said was in the back of my mind when I was maybe the first person a few days ago to stick my head above the parapet and say I was a little disappointed with the total we raised in the campaign.

I hate praising them, but it’s an undeniable fact that if they ever get someone competent to run the club, they will sadly have much more spend on players than we do (and that’s without the sugar daddy’s cash) in the long run.

They’re going to be fan owned, nothing to worry about!

[wallpaperman]

They’re going to be fan owned, nothing to worry about!

This is true, could be a highly amusing sh**storm, if Annie ever let’s them get the reigns, which she probably quite sensibly seems reluctant to do.

[Billy Whizz]

This is true, could be a highly amusing sh**storm, if Annie ever let’s them get the reigns, which she probably quite sensibly seems reluctant to do.

Long May Annie keep the reigns, she’s doing a fine job

[Bostonhibby]

Long May Annie keep the reigns, she’s doing a fine jobA perfect example of what can be achieved with all that money we keep hearing about, when the single tier, horrendously over budget, overdue stand is finally finished they'll be unstoppable.

They might even avoid relegation this time around.

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[Ronniekirk]

"Just to show the potential with this kind of thing..."

I agree they are so used to shelling out money it comes naturally hence Budge taps the well at the drop of a hat
With us a big effort gets a certain amount of return but we haven’t yet found a way to tap into the wider support
But onwards and upwards


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