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A Hi-Bee
27-09-2020, 03:26 PM
We are miles off it

you think it would be any different, miles off it and also about 80million pounds in difference.

Viva_Palmeiras
27-09-2020, 03:26 PM
Hibs ST able to stream?

CMac1988
27-09-2020, 03:27 PM
Stevenson playing really well since coming. Stopped the pressure down the left and dealing with Frimpong well. Also getting forward here and there which is what he needs to do more often to give JR a reason to play him more often.

Better spell by Hibs too resulting in a shot from Newell after a couple of contested headers from a Murphy Cross.

Since452
27-09-2020, 03:27 PM
you think it would be any different, miles off it and also about 80million pounds in difference.

Exactly

Glory Lurker
27-09-2020, 03:27 PM
I’ve not given up on this yet. Still think we’ll sneak something.

H18S NX
27-09-2020, 03:28 PM
Does Stubb's ever shut up,ffs,yap.

H18 SFR
27-09-2020, 03:28 PM
Stevenson playing really well since coming. Stopped the pressure down the left and dealing with Frimpong well. Also getting forward here and there which is what he needs to do more often to give JR a reason to play him more often.

Better spell by Hibs too resulting in a shot from Newell after a couple of contested headers from a Murphy Cross.

Based on recent games it’s a no brainier that Lewis will start against Hamilton on Friday.

CMac1988
27-09-2020, 03:30 PM
Another shot from outside the box after MacGregor gets plenty of time yet again. Newell far too deep and nowhere near where he needs to be.

MrRobot
27-09-2020, 03:33 PM
Based on recent games it’s a no brainier that Lewis will start against Hamilton on Friday.

Really should have started today.

Pretty Boy
27-09-2020, 03:33 PM
Can someone teach Newell how to ****ing shoot.

neil7908
27-09-2020, 03:33 PM
If we can get a goal back soon I think we'll rattle them. Easier said than done though

CMac1988
27-09-2020, 03:33 PM
Good football down the left again but Newell's shot is poor and goes way over the bar.

J-C
27-09-2020, 03:33 PM
3 points for Newell there miles over the bar.

cabbageandribs1875
27-09-2020, 03:34 PM
Newell unlucky just hitting one 40 yards over the bar

GordonHFC
27-09-2020, 03:34 PM
Thought he was a legend?

He is still talking pish.

MrRobot
27-09-2020, 03:34 PM
Can someone teach Newell how to ****ing shoot.

Poor effort there, should have been putting power into it.

HFC 0-7
27-09-2020, 03:34 PM
Chance there, zero composure from Newell though. On another day we might have had one of those go in.

NC1875
27-09-2020, 03:34 PM
Newell has to put the laces through that ffs

J-C
27-09-2020, 03:36 PM
Really should have started today.

:agree:

He's a defender first and foremost and against a good Celtic side, keeping it tight was all important.

cabbageandribs1875
27-09-2020, 03:36 PM
at least no hibs fans are paying good money to sit behind a pillar in a 21st century stadium today :)

Vault Boy
27-09-2020, 03:37 PM
Great chance, Nisbet. Good block.

Moulin Yarns
27-09-2020, 03:37 PM
3 and easy

CMac1988
27-09-2020, 03:37 PM
*****.

Vault Boy
27-09-2020, 03:37 PM
And just like that the game is dead.

wookie70
27-09-2020, 03:38 PM
Lucky bs. That is that

cabbageandribs1875
27-09-2020, 03:38 PM
easy peasy

MWHIBBIES
27-09-2020, 03:38 PM
Amazing that subbing an good attacking fullback for a defensive one hasn't helped us back into the game. Gotta disagree with that decision. Doubt it would have mattered, though, I just feel you should try to figure out how to help Doig and play to his strengths rather than just subbing him.

Onto Friday now, a must win.

Pretty Boy
27-09-2020, 03:38 PM
Our best spell of possession in the 2nd half. A needless shank across the park and 30 seconds later we are 3 down.

Celtic stepped it up in the 2nd half but we were master's of our own downfall today.

PeeJay
27-09-2020, 03:39 PM
Another gifted goal - unbelievable - like a training game for them 2nd half -

Scotty Leither
27-09-2020, 03:40 PM
...and that's what happens when your centre halves give up cheap possession. Too many glaring holes in defence and midfield today.

A Hi-Bee
27-09-2020, 03:40 PM
have to say that P.Mcginn has been poor today his passing has been mince which is a shame as he has been very good for us.

Zambernardi1875
27-09-2020, 03:40 PM
Slack daft pass from Porto. Brown hasn’t been touched the whole game it’s no surprise he runs the show

J-C
27-09-2020, 03:40 PM
All too ****ing easy, poor marking, no closing down and poor passing initially from Porteous, we're still miles away from being anywhere near challenging anyone this year. All good playing the same 11 week in week out but they look knackered, we've not used our squad very well at all.

H18 SFR
27-09-2020, 03:41 PM
Amazing that subbing an good attacking fullback for a defensive one hasn't helped us back into the game. Gotta disagree with that decision. Doubt it would have mattered, though, I just feel you should try to figure out how to help Doig and play to his strengths rather than just subbing him.

Onto Friday now, a must win.

😂😂

🎣🎣

SChibs
27-09-2020, 03:41 PM
Our best spell of possession in the 2nd half. A needless shank across the park and 30 seconds later we are 3 down.

Celtic stepped it up in the 2nd half but we were master's of our own downfall today.

The problem is if Hibs play quite well and Celtic play in 2and gear they will probably still win. We need 9 or 10 players to be at the top of their games for the 90 mins to get a result which is a tall order in reality. We weren't far off today and I dont think the scoreline reflects exactly how we have played

wookie70
27-09-2020, 03:41 PM
Amazing that subbing an good attacking fullback for a defensive one hasn't helped us back into the game. Gotta disagree with that decision. Doubt it would have mattered, though, I just feel you should try to figure out how to help Doig and play to his strengths rather than just subbing him.

Onto Friday now, a must win.Lewis has offered far more going forward than Josh did first half and dealt with their attack miles better. No brainer that Lewis should have started

JohnMcM
27-09-2020, 03:41 PM
Scott Brown has pretty much bossed this second half.

givescotlandfreedom
27-09-2020, 03:42 PM
Don't get folk greeting about the 3rd. We had to have a go, nearly scored and they broke on the counter. If Nisbet's shot had gone in we'd be well in it.

Lago
27-09-2020, 03:42 PM
And to compound matters Aberdeen winning, 2 points behind us with 2 games in hand.

Souter96Mac
27-09-2020, 03:42 PM
Poor today from us, need to move on quickly and focus on Hamilton on Friday.

NC1875
27-09-2020, 03:43 PM
Scott brown as usual untouched the whole game. Dictates the play and then silly mistakes cost us. Ah well, always a tall order against Celtic. Onto Hamilton

A Hi-Bee
27-09-2020, 03:43 PM
Don't get folk greeting about the 3rd. We had to have a go, nearly scored and they broke on the counter. If Nisbet's shot had gone in we'd be well in it.

If only eh! story of most games against the ****in uglies.

delbert
27-09-2020, 03:44 PM
Another gifted goal - unbelievable - like a training game for them 2nd half -

We've had a decent start to the season but when it really mattered, with surely never a better chance of getting a result st Parkhead against a stuttering Celtc side, we have pretty much fluffed our lines. Ross now has to remind the players that they are still a good solid side and have them fired up and ready to go next time out.

J-C
27-09-2020, 03:44 PM
Amazing that subbing an good attacking fullback for a defensive one hasn't helped us back into the game. Gotta disagree with that decision. Doubt it would have mattered, though, I just feel you should try to figure out how to help Doig and play to his strengths rather than just subbing him.

Onto Friday now, a must win.


Also weird that Frimpong has disappeared from the game since Stevenson came on and the 3rd goal came from the right/middle of the park after a poor pass by Porteous.

CMac1988
27-09-2020, 03:44 PM
Amazing that subbing an good attacking fullback for a defensive one hasn't helped us back into the game. Gotta disagree with that decision. Doubt it would have mattered, though, I just feel you should try to figure out how to help Doig and play to his strengths rather than just subbing him.

Onto Friday now, a must win.

Everything was coming down the left. Doig was struggling. Stevenson is the better player irrespective of being more defensive minded.

Stevenson has coped much better today and has managed to get forward a good amount this 2nd half, involved in some of the better football we've played this half when we've managed to hold on to the ball. On top of that Doig has struggled to get forward in his last couple of games.

I've no problem with Doig getting more game time but he's not been great the last couple of weeks and to me it was obvious that Stevenson should've started.

Andy74
27-09-2020, 03:44 PM
All too ****ing easy, poor marking, no closing down and poor passing initially from Porteous, we're still miles away from being anywhere near challenging anyone this year. All good playing the same 11 week in week out but they look knackered, we've not used our squad very well at all.

No surprise we are miles off Celtic.

As I said before the game though we are sitting with our only other forward options as 2 young players we know would probably not make any impact.

Tully
27-09-2020, 03:44 PM
And to compound matters Aberdeen winning, 2 points behind us with 2 games in hand.

Aye one at Celtic park

B.H.F.C
27-09-2020, 03:45 PM
Started the game well and failed to take advantage.

Two goals from Porteous giving the ball away.

MWHIBBIES
27-09-2020, 03:45 PM
😂😂

🎣🎣Not at all. Boring reply, try harder.


Lewis has offered far more going forward than Josh did first half and dealt with their attack miles better. No brainer that Lewis should have started

Lewis should be starting every game then. If he offers that much more against this level of opposition, he should be playing against everyone. Doig has been good this season and, in my opinion, deserved a bit more than being subbed after a rough 45 minutes. Lewis maybe should have started, but when the decision has been made, try to stick with it and do something with it.

Stuart93
27-09-2020, 03:45 PM
Think we still need that Hard working midfielder In there

Moulin Yarns
27-09-2020, 03:45 PM
And to compound matters Aberdeen winning, 2 points behind us with 2 games in hand.

Thank goodness one is against Celtc

yerauldda
27-09-2020, 03:46 PM
Let’s not go over the top with the reactions to this. Simply beaten by a better team who’ve been able to bring £25m worth of players off of the bench today. Can’t fault our effort.

HIBERNIAN-0762
27-09-2020, 03:46 PM
No bark no bite no leadership and far too many players way off the pace, an easy 3 points for them.

Allant1981
27-09-2020, 03:47 PM
Amazing that subbing an good attacking fullback for a defensive one hasn't helped us back into the game. Gotta disagree with that decision. Doubt it would have mattered, though, I just feel you should try to figure out how to help Doig and play to his strengths rather than just subbing him.

Onto Friday now, a must win.

Utter nonsense, he was being ripped to shreds and the best decision was to get him off at half time

Billy Whizz
27-09-2020, 03:47 PM
Have Celtic just made 4 different substitutes
Has the rule changed, thought you could make 5, from 3 breaks
Or does Ajeti in the 1st half not count?

Stanton Spence
27-09-2020, 03:47 PM
I think it says it all when newell is the first player booked on 85 mins. Although it's looking like another doing at parkhead it's been a very strange game and we have had more than a few half chances but seem to have lost that physicality we had against the huns

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jacomo
27-09-2020, 03:47 PM
Not at all. Boring reply, try harder.



Lewis should be starting every game then. If he offers that much more against this level of opposition, he should be playing against everyone. Doig has been good this season and, in my opinion, deserved a bit more than being subbed after a rough 45 minutes. Lewis maybe should have started, but when the decision has been made, try to stick with it and do something with it.


You are amazingly consistent I’ll give you that. Consistently wrong, but consistent all the same.

PeeJay
27-09-2020, 03:47 PM
Let’s not go over the top with the reactions to this. Simply beaten by a better team who’ve been able to bring £25m worth of players off of the bench today. Can’t fault our effort.

They haven't looked that good at the back and all of their goals were gifted by us - as to effort, I'm not impressed the 2nd half has been dire

Since452
27-09-2020, 03:47 PM
Certainly won't be losing any sleep over today's result

Moulin Yarns
27-09-2020, 03:48 PM
You are amazingly consistent I’ll give you that. Consistently wrong, but consistent all the same.

That's all we can ask. 😉

Tyler Durden
27-09-2020, 03:48 PM
All too ****ing easy, poor marking, no closing down and poor passing initially from Porteous, we're still miles away from being anywhere near challenging anyone this year. All good playing the same 11 week in week out but they look knackered, we've not used our squad very well at all.

What are you on about, miles away from challenging? Did you think we were gonna win the league?

We’re competing with Aberdeen and the rest and we’re currently sitting very nicely.

Hibs3-2
27-09-2020, 03:48 PM
Have Celtic just made 4 different substitutes
Has the rule changed, thought you could make 5, from 3 breaks
Or does Ajeti in the 1st half not count?

Noticed that too. The rule is up to 5 subs but only over 3 different stoppages. They made 5 subs over 4 stoppages

J-C
27-09-2020, 03:48 PM
No surprise we are miles off Celtic.

As I said before the game though we are sitting with our only other forward options as 2 young players we know would probably not make any impact.


I didn't agree going 2 up against them as it gifts too much space for them to play, 4141 was how I'd have started, keeping it tight across the midfield giving them little space and countering.

NC1875
27-09-2020, 03:48 PM
I think it says it all when newell is the first player booked on 85 mins. Although it's looking like another doing at parkhead it's been a very strange game and we have had more than a few half chances but seem to have lost that physicality we had against the huns

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Yip, we were up for it and in rangers faces. Given Celtic too much respect today imo. Decent enough performance but Celtic didn’t know they were in a game unlike the huns last week

AugustaHibs
27-09-2020, 03:49 PM
Noticed that too. The rule is up to 5 subs but only over 3 different stoppages. They made 5 subs over 4 stoppages

Don’t think half time counts

MWHIBBIES
27-09-2020, 03:49 PM
You are amazingly consistent I’ll give you that. Consistently wrong, but consistent all the same.I'm not consistently wrong. Nice try, though. Try to reply to the post, not the poster.


Utter nonsense, he was being ripped to shreds and the best decision was to get him off at half time

Na, the best decision was to start Lewis in that case. At 2-0 the game is over already, try to teach the kid something, help him, try to deal with the situation should it arise again.

Paul1642
27-09-2020, 03:49 PM
Not many teams will take a point at parkhead this season (or pretty much any other season for that matter). Move on and keep up the good form we are on next game.

S4uzee
27-09-2020, 03:49 PM
Certainly won't be losing any sleep over today's result

Why not? How do we ever improve if we are just going to accept defeat so easily in these games?

cabbageandribs1875
27-09-2020, 03:50 PM
No bark no bite no leadership and far too many players way off the pace, an easy 3 points for them.


as it's turned out exactly what they needed between two tough european games

B.H.F.C
27-09-2020, 03:50 PM
Certainly won't be losing any sleep over today's result

I hope Ross and the players don’t have that kind of defeatist attitude of ‘aw well, it’s Celtic’.

Not saying we should have won, or be judged on a defeat to Celtic, but I hope they’re annoyed about the cheapness of goals and failing to capitalise on our good start.

NC1875
27-09-2020, 03:50 PM
I'm not consistently wrong. Nice try, though. Try to reply to the post, not the poster.



Na, the best decision was to start Lewis in that case. At 2-0 the game is over already, try to teach the kid something, help him, try to deal with the situation should it arise again.

The games over at 2-0 ? Aye ok then 👍🏼

Scotty Leither
27-09-2020, 03:51 PM
Nobody has stuck a foot in all day either. Stevenson has rattled Frimprong twice now - what's wrong with the rest of them?

Vault Boy
27-09-2020, 03:51 PM
I'm not consistently wrong. Nice try, though. Try to reply to the post, not the poster.



Na, the best decision was to start Lewis in that case. At 2-0 the game is over already, try to teach the kid something, help him, try to deal with the situation should it arise again.

2-0 down at HT is far from game over and we should be doing anything we can to get back into the game, not using it as a lesson for a youngster.

J-C
27-09-2020, 03:51 PM
What are you on about, miles away from challenging? Did you think we were gonna win the league?

We’re competing with Aberdeen and the rest and we’re currently sitting very nicely.

Not after last week, there was plenty on here seen that draw as us looking at 2nd or 3rd, as good a start as we've had points wise, we've not really been playing that great, still too inconsistent. We should look for 4th and a couple of good cup runs.

Billy Whizz
27-09-2020, 03:51 PM
Don’t think half time counts

Ok ta

Carheenlea
27-09-2020, 03:51 PM
Could easily have been 2-1 with all to play for before Celtic going straight up the park to kill it at three. Frustrating but 1 point from the last two against Rangers/Celtic is a point more than most in the league will take off them.

hhibs
27-09-2020, 03:52 PM
Murphy for Wright, do it at HT :confused:



Sorry but I really do not see what Wright offers,when available Murphy to start

Andy74
27-09-2020, 03:52 PM
I'm not consistently wrong. Nice try, though. Try to reply to the post, not the poster.



Na, the best decision was to start Lewis in that case. At 2-0 the game is over already, try to teach the kid something, help him, try to deal with the situation should it arise again.

At 2-0 it isn’t over. We have to give ourselves the best chance of getting back in to the game. Same as we did last week when it did make a difference. Doig will learn from it. Not much more to be gained from him getting another 45 mins of a chasing.

Allant1981
27-09-2020, 03:52 PM
I'm not consistently wrong. Nice try, though. Try to reply to the post, not the poster.



Na, the best decision was to start Lewis in that case. At 2-0 the game is over already, try to teach the kid something, help him, try to deal with the situation should it arise again.


I do actually think he should have started but playing doig when he is getting torn a new one isn't teaching him anything

James Stephen
27-09-2020, 03:52 PM
Why not? How do we ever improve if we are just going to accept defeat so easily in these games?

I dont think they accepted defeat too easily, the players were just playing against a team that is MUCH better, both collectively and individually in every position. It really is that simple.

H18 SFR
27-09-2020, 03:52 PM
“the best decision was to start Lewis”.

100% correct. Stevenson should have started after last week.

MWHIBBIES
27-09-2020, 03:53 PM
The games over at 2-0 ? Aye ok then 👍🏼


2-0 down at HT is far from game over and we should be doing anything we can to get back into the game, not using it as a lesson for a youngster.

When was the last time Celtic lost points from 2-0 up at ht at home? Game is well over at 2-0 IMO.

Since452
27-09-2020, 03:53 PM
Why not? How do we ever improve if we are just going to accept defeat so easily in these games?

We've won there 18 times in our history. A bit of perspective needed especially with the money they've thrown around

Andy74
27-09-2020, 03:53 PM
I dont think they accepted defeat too easily, the players were just playing against a team that is MUCH better, both collectively and individually in every position. It really is that simple.

Pretty much. That’s the toughest game we should get.

Vault Boy
27-09-2020, 03:54 PM
When was the last time Celtic lost points from 2-0 up at ht at home? Game is well over at 2-0 IMO.

Irrelevant. If you think the coaching staff should be treating 2-0 down as game over in any league match then you'll have to sit on that hill alone.

Stuart93
27-09-2020, 03:55 PM
That’s what happens when you don’t take your chances against Celtic at parkhead, they punish you

Like we’ve said they games won’t define our season so we move on to Friday.

We need to sign the hard working midfielder we’re lacking before the window shuts

CmoantheHibs
27-09-2020, 03:55 PM
Disappointing but now onto Hamilton.

Broken Gnome
27-09-2020, 03:55 PM
I'm not consistently wrong. Nice try, though. Try to reply to the post, not the poster.



Na, the best decision was to start Lewis in that case. At 2-0 the game is over already, try to teach the kid something, help him, try to deal with the situation should it arise again.

You nor anyone else has the perfect answer to that problem though. Bringing him back out for another 10 minutes where he found it increasingly difficult could do more damage, no?

And dropping him for Lewis wouldn't have helped either, because then how would he learn at all? He would have been picked today believing that he was capable of a good game - didn't work out, subbed to protect him, happens all the time.

It doesn't always have to be bad management of a situation or a player when the decisions taken were perfectly understandable.

cabbageandribs1875
27-09-2020, 03:55 PM
The games over at 2-0 ? Aye ok then 👍🏼


i confidently predicted it was over after just 8 mins :(

greenlex
27-09-2020, 03:55 PM
Not at the races 2nd half.

Andy74
27-09-2020, 03:55 PM
When was the last time Celtic lost points from 2-0 up at ht at home? Game is well over at 2-0 IMO.

They don’t often lose from 0-0 at kick off either. Doesn’t mean it is over.

Paul1642
27-09-2020, 03:55 PM
We've won there 18 times in our history. A bit of perspective needed especially with the money they've thrown around

Wow. Amazed it’s that low. Do you have the stat for Ibrox?

Scotty Leither
27-09-2020, 03:56 PM
I hope Ross and the players don’t have that kind of defeatist attitude of ‘aw well, it’s Celtic’.

Not saying we should have won, or be judged on a defeat to Celtic, but I hope they’re annoyed about the cheapness of goals and failing to capitalise on our good start.

Correct. That kind of ***** became embedded at Hibernian FC for too long.

Night and day from last week in terms of attitude and approach to the game.

As cheesed off with that display as the Aberdeen game - we're still too easily bullied and brushed off it in certain games.

hhibs
27-09-2020, 03:56 PM
I hope Ross and the players don’t have that kind of defeatist attitude of ‘aw well, it’s Celtic’.

Not saying we should have won, or be judged on a defeat to Celtic, but I hope they’re annoyed about the cheapness of goals and failing to capitalise on our good start.


Really did not look like we were up for it,there really is more passion from us against Sevco,need to get it generated for all games not just der hun

PeeJay
27-09-2020, 03:56 PM
No problem with being beaten at Parkhead - it is the manner of losing that I find annoying - there was no need to gift them the points today: at least make them work hard for them

Wull
27-09-2020, 03:56 PM
celtic were different class 2nd half, we never competed, but this game has gone so lets hump Hamilton next game :flag::flag::flag:

Viva_Palmeiras
27-09-2020, 03:57 PM
😂😂

🎣🎣

don’t mock the “must win”, “the next five games” threads without them football forums would descent into chaos ;)

MWHIBBIES
27-09-2020, 03:58 PM
Irrelevant. If you think the coaching staff should be treating 2-0 down as game over in any league match then you'll have to sit on that hill alone.

I didn't say that, though.

ekhibee
27-09-2020, 03:58 PM
Not at all. Boring reply, try harder.



Lewis should be starting every game then. If he offers that much more against this level of opposition, he should be playing against everyone. Doig has been good this season and, in my opinion, deserved a bit more than being subbed after a rough 45 minutes. Lewis maybe should have started, but when the decision has been made, try to stick with it and do something with it.

Totally agree with most of what you say on this. Doig needs to get experience against teams like Celtic, it's still an education for him at this level, and he's been playing well most of the season. There is a valid argument for Stevenson starting this game in terms of experience, but his form last season was patchy to say the least, he's getting older. He can "still do a job" of course, but Doig will hopefully learn from his experience. Onwards and upwards.

JXM73
27-09-2020, 03:59 PM
a point more than exepcted against the weegie ****s, they have spent more on single players than what Ron paid for the entire club....

Must bounce back Friday...

Zambernardi1875
27-09-2020, 03:59 PM
Slack daft pass from Porto. Brown hasn’t been touched the whole game it’s no surprise he runs the show

hhibs
27-09-2020, 04:00 PM
I do actually think he should have started but playing doig when he is getting torn a new one isn't teaching him anything



Completely agree on this and,playing Wright when Murphy available to me were JR's mistakes.

jacomo
27-09-2020, 04:01 PM
I didn't agree going 2 up against them as it gifts too much space for them to play, 4141 was how I'd have started, keeping it tight across the midfield giving them little space and countering.


Except that we were doing well against them and playing well before they scored, then again for the rest of the first half. If we’d taken our chances we’d have been ahead.

That suggests to me that the game plan was correct. The gaffer can’t be responsible for basic errors or missed chances.

LongJohnBanger
27-09-2020, 04:02 PM
We've won there 18 times in our history. A bit of perspective needed especially with the money they've thrown around

Shirley no.


18 times in 145 years?! God, that's depressing.

Vault Boy
27-09-2020, 04:02 PM
I didn't say that, though.

You said we should have left Doig on because the game was over at HT. You then doubled down and said 2-0 is game over because of Celtic's record.

So what else could that mean? 🙄

cabbageandribs1875
27-09-2020, 04:03 PM
bring on the accies, back to winning again

Paul1642
27-09-2020, 04:03 PM
Shirley no.


18 times in 145 years?! God, that's depressing.

To be fair they have only been around for 132 of them 😁

But yeah, a win every 7 years isn’t the best.

Since452
27-09-2020, 04:04 PM
The games over at 2-0 ? Aye ok then 👍🏼

Realistically it's over 2-0 down at Celtic Park in all honesty. No point pretending otherwise

Onion
27-09-2020, 04:05 PM
celtic were different class 2nd half, we never competed, but this game has gone so lets hump Hamilton next game :flag::flag::flag:

Easy for Celtic to be different class once 2 up and Hibs had to chase the game. We don't have the quality to take Celtic on at their own game at Parkhead, that's why others sit back a try to hit on the break. Usually doesn't work as C will grind you down, but at least you've a chance of frustrating them. Today was far too easy for them.

greenpaper55
27-09-2020, 04:06 PM
How is it the Livi can go there and give them a game and get a couple of goals but we hardly turn up ? another season of mediocrity i'm afraid and no progress.

Paul1642
27-09-2020, 04:08 PM
God there’s some doom and gloomer’s on here. It’s only been one week since we took a point and 2 goals from high flying rangers who were yet to concede!

jacomo
27-09-2020, 04:08 PM
Noticed that too. The rule is up to 5 subs but only over 3 different stoppages. They made 5 subs over 4 stoppages


Yas! Game declared a 0-3 win to Hibs because Celtc cheated.

Brightside
27-09-2020, 04:09 PM
How is it the Livi can go there and give them a game and get a couple of goals but we hardly turn up ? another season of mediocrity i'm afraid and no progress.

Hahahaha. Behave man. Best start to a season in years and you post this after a poor game v Celtic.

jeffers
27-09-2020, 04:09 PM
I accept they have better players in probably every position but we made it too easy for them with their first two goals despite first half being pretty even. Crying out for another midfielder though, Brown was able to play as if he was wearing his slippers in the 2nd half.

Heisenberg
27-09-2020, 04:10 PM
How is it the Livi can go there and give them a game and get a couple of goals but we hardly turn up ? another season of mediocrity i'm afraid and no progress.

I didn’t realise our progress was going to be measured on how much of a game we give Celtc at Parkhead.

Since452
27-09-2020, 04:10 PM
How is it the Livi can go there and give them a game and get a couple of goals but we hardly turn up ? another season of mediocrity i'm afraid and no progress.

Overreaction.net

jacomo
27-09-2020, 04:10 PM
I'm not consistently wrong. Nice try, though. Try to reply to the post, not the poster.



Na, the best decision was to start Lewis in that case. At 2-0 the game is over already, try to teach the kid something, help him, try to deal with the situation should it arise again.


Oh dear.

EI255
27-09-2020, 04:11 PM
We should forget about the away games with Celtic and perhaps away games at The Rangers.

Thought we might get something out this today but we didn't really turn up and you have to say Celtic were very good.

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jacomo
27-09-2020, 04:11 PM
Overreaction.net


Totally agree. These match day threads aren’t improving that’s for sure.

The 90+2
27-09-2020, 04:12 PM
Shirley no.


18 times in 145 years?! God, that's depressing.

I’ve been there twice 3-1 and 1-0. I’ll take that 😂

Celtic where very good today. Positives was Murphy and Lewis.

MWHIBBIES
27-09-2020, 04:12 PM
How is it the Livi can go there and give them a game and get a couple of goals but we hardly turn up ? another season of mediocrity i'm afraid and no progress.

:faf:

cabbageandribs1875
27-09-2020, 04:12 PM
Brown was able to play as if he was wearing his slippers in the 2nd half.

He was actually smoking a cigar at one point

The 90+2
27-09-2020, 04:13 PM
How is it the Livi can go there and give them a game and get a couple of goals but we hardly turn up ? another season of mediocrity i'm afraid and no progress.

Possibly the best team in the country didn’t perform as well as they did today that day?

MWHIBBIES
27-09-2020, 04:13 PM
Oh dear.

:faf:

Bore off

Pretty Boy
27-09-2020, 04:14 PM
I thought we played well in the 1st half. I would say we didn't deserve to be 2 behind at the break but when you give away soft goals then you really do.

2nd half Celtic strolled it. We were chasing shadows for long spells. The biggest frustration is we again gifted them the 3rd goal at a time when we had just had a decent spell and a chance of our own. It was nothing to do with committing men forward, it was sloppy play from Porteous to gift them the ball. Both the 2nd and 3rd goals stemmed from errors from the centre of our defence. That's been a rarity this season so I think we can avoid being too harsh.

Overall I'm disappointed to be sitting here reflecting on what ended up being a bit of a doing. After losing an early goal I feared the worst but we acquitted ourselves well and were well in the game. Silly mistakes killed us today. I think you have to give Celtic some credit as well. A few weeks back he Ross County manager said he felt they were unlucky to be hammered by Celtic as well, it keeps happening though which suggests they are doing something right.

Sir David Gray
27-09-2020, 04:15 PM
How is it the Livi can go there and give them a game and get a couple of goals but we hardly turn up ? another season of mediocrity i'm afraid and no progress.

I think Livingston fans would gladly swap places with us right now.

H18 SFR
27-09-2020, 04:15 PM
Stop the bus!!!

Celtic did make an unauthorised substitution.

RoYO!
27-09-2020, 04:16 PM
Theres a few unfamiliar names spouting some amount of guff on here. Best ignored for the lurker yams they are.

Oh ye, 😂😂😂😂 hertz

Phil MaGlass
27-09-2020, 04:16 PM
Celtic were solid all over the park, we looked like a good team, just not able to match the skill or buying power, I'm not too worried for the rest of the season goin on what I saw today, top four is where I think we will finish behind Aberdeen.

Hiber-nation
27-09-2020, 04:18 PM
Our finishing has been pretty clinical recently but not today and Frimpong is a class apart. Time to move on.

HoboHarry
27-09-2020, 04:19 PM
Ach it could be worse. We could be playing in Leicester City colours today.

Itsnoteasy
27-09-2020, 04:19 PM
Stop the bus!!!

Celtic did make an unauthorised substitution.

Is that not up to 4th official & referee to veto it if not permitted.

H18 SFR
27-09-2020, 04:22 PM
Is that not up to 4th official & referee to veto it if not permitted.

If it was a UEFA game it would be a 0-3 loss for the team who broke the competition rules.

JXM73
27-09-2020, 04:22 PM
How is it the Livi can go there and give them a game and get a couple of goals but we hardly turn up ? another season of mediocrity i'm afraid and no progress.

Bedwetter of the day award!

JohnM1875
27-09-2020, 04:25 PM
Feel bad saying it, but Stevenson should still be our first choice left back. 32 or not, we should be starting our best team.

Give Doig, Gullan and Shanley the league cup group games and potentially start them against the lower half of the table teams.

Doig learns absolutely nothing from that today. Not sure subbing him off early doors against both old firm teams will do much for his confidence either.

greenlex
27-09-2020, 04:26 PM
Unfortunately you can substitute at half time as well as the other three times during the game :boo hoo:

Stanton Spence
27-09-2020, 04:27 PM
:faf:

Bore offHe's spot on. As far as you're concerned the game was over at half time and 2 goals down, the laddie doig was getting a bit of run around and struggling to cope with frimpong and your answer is to keep doig on so he can really get a roasting sending his confidence to **** and making things even worse. But hey ho he will learn from it
That's like tossing your bairn in the deep end at the commy and watch him struggling to get to the side then toss the bairn in again!!! He will either sink or swim [emoji1303]

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H18 SFR
27-09-2020, 04:27 PM
Scottish Premiership clubs will be able to use up to five substitutes this season. The temporary rule change has been approved by the SPFL board and will come into effect this weekend. It means clubs will be able to name nine players on the bench and use five of them, but only at three intervals during the game.

Billy Whizz
27-09-2020, 04:27 PM
Unfortunately you can substitute at half time as well as the other three times during the game :boo hoo:

Just read that you can only stop the game 3 times, and I presume HT doesn’t count
You can but try😄

H18 SFR
27-09-2020, 04:29 PM
Unfortunately you can substitute at half time as well as the other three times during the game :boo hoo:

According to the completion rules, half time is referred to as ‘the half time interval’.

So, they’ve made a change over 4 intervals? No? Yes?

The 90+2
27-09-2020, 04:29 PM
Bedwetter of the day award!

You mean I’m let off? 🤗

jacomo
27-09-2020, 04:29 PM
Feel bad saying it, but Stevenson should still be our first choice left back. 32 or not, we should be starting our best team.

Give Doig, Gullan and Shanley the league cup group games and potentially start them against the lower half of the table teams.

Doig learns absolutely nothing from that today. Not sure subbing him off early doors against both old firm teams will do much for his confidence either.


I hope Jack asked him to sit in the stands and have a look at how to stop the threat. If he’s got anything about him - and he clearly does - he will bounce back from today no problem.

Lewis is getting to the age where we can’t expect the same energy levels from him every game. It’s been a good season for Doig so far and I’m sure he will have many more opportunities to impress.

weecounty hibby
27-09-2020, 04:29 PM
Hibs played ok. Celtic are an excellent side. We are a good side. They had tens of millions of pounds in the bench, we had some young laddies. That's the difference
The usual folk out in force on the thread though moaning about the usual utter garbage

hhibs
27-09-2020, 04:29 PM
Stop the bus!!!

Celtic did make an unauthorised substitution.


Interesting ,I would take the points any way possible, but if upheld Celtic will get a £100 fine,suspended for 24 hours.

MWHIBBIES
27-09-2020, 04:30 PM
He's spot on. As far as you're concerned the game was over at half time and 2 goals down, the laddie doig was getting a bit of run around and struggling to cope with frimpong and your answer is to keep doig on so he can really get a roasting sending his confidence to get even worse. But hey ho he will learn from it
That's like tossing your bairn in the deep end at the commy and watch him struggling to get to the side then toss the bairn in again!!! He will either sink or swim [emoji1303]

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''oh dear'' is not spot on, mate. Its partonising pish.

He is welcome to give his opinion, as you have.

That wasn't my answer, at all. My answer was change something, give him support, tell him to hang back a bit etc.

Gmack7
27-09-2020, 04:30 PM
Ach it could be worse. We could be playing in Leicester City colours today.

Doing ok so far. Citeh defence is honking

CMac1988
27-09-2020, 04:35 PM
Feel bad saying it, but Stevenson should still be our first choice left back. 32 or not, we should be starting our best team.

Give Doig, Gullan and Shanley the league cup group games and potentially start them against the lower half of the table teams.

Doig learns absolutely nothing from that today. Not sure subbing him off early doors against both old firm teams will do much for his confidence either.

Zing.

There's no denying Stevenson had a poor season by his standards last year. He's never been known for his great attacking play but when he was having a bad time of it he was left to try and play through it. He never had the benefit of someone in the wing waiting to come in and give him a breather. Competition is good and the Stevenson that's came on in the last couple of games has been much improved with more willingness to get forward knowing he's no longer guaranteed a start.

You start your best players and for me he's still better than Doig. It's Ironic but Doig starting is what Stevenson needed to show he's still got enough about him to compete at this level.

jeffers
27-09-2020, 04:36 PM
Hibs played ok. Celtic are an excellent side. We are a good side. They had tens of millions of pounds in the bench, we had some young laddies. That's the difference
The usual folk out in force on the thread though moaning about the usual utter garbage

No matter how good they were, and they weren’t great first half, it’s valid to point out our inability to hit the target once or to play not particularly difficult passes to teammates. You should be able to do those things regardless of the opposition.

Stanton Spence
27-09-2020, 04:39 PM
''oh dear'' is not spot on, mate. Its partonising pish.

He is welcome to give his opinion, as you have.

That wasn't my answer, at all. My answer was change something, give him support, tell him to hang back a bit etc.I agree with what you said about Stevenson should have started in the first place and I get what you are saying about giving the laddie back up and support etc to help him though the game. But the problem with that is you are going to leave us short somewhere else on the park and we ain't good enough to have players nurse other players through a game anywhere never mind parkhead.
If I'm being honest and without hindsight I would have started with Lewis today but that was JRs call which he got wrong and done what he could at half time to rectify this. It was a similar situation last week and he done the right thing bringing Lewis on and he done the exact same thing today but he didn't get a result
I'm sure doig will have learned loads from the both first half's against the erse cheeks there was absolutely no point in giving him another half to learn anymore

Ps I usually agree with most of your posts bud but I feel your way off the mark with this one. I wouldn't actually bet against the laddie being a bit relieved he got subbed at half time although he will never admit to that. He's learned a lot the last couple of weeks

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Alfred E Newman
27-09-2020, 04:41 PM
How is it the Livi can go there and give them a game and get a couple of goals but we hardly turn up ? another season of mediocrity i'm afraid and no progress.

What a load of utter tripe.

greenlex
27-09-2020, 04:41 PM
According to the completion rules, half time is referred to as ‘the half time interval’.

So, they’ve made a change over 4 intervals? No? Yes?
You are allowed three periods plus at half time.

greenlex
27-09-2020, 04:41 PM
Unfortunately you can substitute at half time as well as the other three times during the game :boo hoo:

H18 SFR
27-09-2020, 04:42 PM
Interesting ,I would take the points any way possible, but if upheld Celtic will get a £100 fine,suspended for 24 hours.

I read the IFAB guidance. Half time does not count. You learn something every day and all that jazz.

weecounty hibby
27-09-2020, 04:44 PM
No matter how good they were, and they weren’t great first half, it’s valid to point out our inability to hit the target once or to play not particularly difficult passes to teammates. You should be able to do those things regardless of the opposition.

But the better sides make it difficult for you to do those things. They hurry you and force you to rush things and make mistakes. We will be absolutely fine against the teams from 5th down but against the huns and celtic we will struggle

Borderhibbie76
27-09-2020, 04:49 PM
But the better sides make it difficult for you to do those things. They hurry you and force you to rush things and make mistakes. We will be absolutely fine against the teams from 5th down but against the huns and celtic we will struggle

Yeah coz we really toiled against the Huns last week ah

blackpoolhibs
27-09-2020, 04:50 PM
Well beaten in the end, sort of matched them in the first half before they scored the 2nd, but over the piece we were 2nd best.

I think celtic played reasonably well without really getting into top gear.

On to next week.

Hibernia&Alba
27-09-2020, 04:52 PM
Away games at the Old Firm are always tough; teams don't win many there. First half we did well; second half we struggled. You have to take your chances at Parkhead, otherwise you're punished, which is exactly what happened. I wasn't expecting to get anything today; we've seen this many times before and will again. We can't read a lot into the result; it's our games against the rest which will make or break our season.

Andy74
27-09-2020, 04:53 PM
Well beaten in the end, sort of matched them in the first half before they scored the 2nd, but over the piece we were 2nd best.

I think celtic played reasonably well without really getting into top gear.

On to next week.

Lennon suggested after the game it was one of the best performances across both his spells considering how good we’ve been.

danhibees1875
27-09-2020, 04:53 PM
Hibs played ok. Celtic are an excellent side. We are a good side. They had tens of millions of pounds in the bench, we had some young laddies. That's the difference
The usual folk out in force on the thread though moaning about the usual utter garbage

:agree:

We got 1 more point from the OF double header than I expected and generally played better across the 2 games than I'd anticipated.

I don't see how people can be overly upset by today really. We played well in the first half then were mostly outclassed in the second.

Newall and Nisbet to do a little extra shooting practice before Hamilton and hopefully 3 points there will set us on our way to another good run of form.

weecounty hibby
27-09-2020, 04:54 PM
Yeah coz we really toiled against the Huns last week ah

For a lot of the game last week, yes we did. Got a result which is the main thing but yeah I think rangers were the better side last week. Was similar to today in that we had some decent spells but last week we managed to score

Borderhibbie76
27-09-2020, 04:56 PM
For a lot of the game last week, yes we did. Got a result which is the main thing but yeah I think rangers were the better side last week. Was similar to today in that we had some decent spells but last week we managed to score

Very true important that we bounce back on Fri night against Hamilton now

B.H.F.C
27-09-2020, 04:58 PM
For a lot of the game last week, yes we did. Got a result which is the main thing but yeah I think rangers were the better side last week. Was similar to today in that we had some decent spells but last week we managed to score

Toiled first a lot of the game last week? Really?

Rangers has spells but we got about them. We pressed them, tackled them and hit them at any opportunity. We scored two goals and had other chances. Today we didn’t get close to Celtic when they had the ball. We didn’t have a shot on target. No similarity whatsoever.

500miles
27-09-2020, 05:01 PM
We tried to be more direct 2nd half, but Celtic were actually better at dealing with that, so we just ended up giving the ball away. We could have taken Gogic off instead of Wright and had Newell as a deep lying playmaker, but that could have just as easily ended up being a slaughter

Wasn't our day, and we'll come again starting Friday.

jeffers
27-09-2020, 05:01 PM
But the better sides make it difficult for you to do those things. They hurry you and force you to rush things and make mistakes. We will be absolutely fine against the teams from 5th down but against the huns and celtic we will struggle

To an extent yes, but for me we did it too often today when not under pressure. Also while you are going to struggle to match them for ability you should be able to match them for effort. Take their first goal as a example. McGregor had time to take a couple of touches before shooting unchallenged. I also think we were hampered by not matching up with them in the middle of the park, it was telling particularly in the second half although I’m not convinced we have the personnel to have done so anyway.

I agree with your last sentence.

The Spaceman
27-09-2020, 05:03 PM
Imagine if we had the resources that any team in our leagues star player is sitting either on our bench or in the stands? People need to get real - they are streets ahead of us and today’s result and performance is no disgrace. We have had a fantastic start to the season and I expect us to pick up all 3 points Vs Hamilton.

The 90+2
27-09-2020, 05:04 PM
I agree with what you said about Stevenson should have started in the first place and I get what you are saying about giving the laddie back up and support etc to help him though the game. But the problem with that is you are going to leave us short somewhere else on the park and we ain't good enough to have players nurse other players through a game anywhere never mind parkhead.
If I'm being honest and without hindsight I would have started with Lewis today but that was JRs call which he got wrong and done what he could at half time to rectify this. It was a similar situation last week and he done the right thing bringing Lewis on and he done the exact same thing today but he didn't get a result
I'm sure doig will have learned loads from the both first half's against the erse cheeks there was absolutely no point in giving him another half to learn anymore

Ps I usually agree with most of your posts bud but I feel your way off the mark with this one. I wouldn't actually bet against the laddie being a bit relieved he got subbed at half time although he will never admit to that. He's learned a lot the last couple of weeks

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Doig and Ross are still learning and will have both learned a lot by that experience today. He will only improve playing against very good players.

blackpoolhibs
27-09-2020, 05:06 PM
Lennon suggested after the game it was one of the best performances across both his spells considering how good we’ve been.

What does he know, he's clueless.:wink:

The 90+2
27-09-2020, 05:07 PM
For a lot of the game last week, yes we did. Got a result which is the main thing but yeah I think rangers were the better side last week. Was similar to today in that we had some decent spells but last week we managed to score

I genuinely think we toiled more against Motherwell and they got absolutely horsed today. We have a team that is learning and improving and needs patience. We also need a couple more in.

Hibernia&Alba
27-09-2020, 05:17 PM
Imagine if we had the resources that any team in our leagues star player is sitting either on our bench or in the stands? People need to get real - they are streets ahead of us and today’s result and performance is no disgrace. We have had a fantastic start to the season and I expect us to pick up all 3 points Vs Hamilton.

Very much so. Celtic have a 65 million wage bill. There is a massive gulf in resources and the other clubs can only do so much. It's very difficult.

The 90+2
27-09-2020, 05:20 PM
Very much so. Celtic have a 65 million wage bill. There is a massive gulf in resources and the other clubs can only do so much. It's very difficult.

If Celtic play to their best they beat anyone in the league.

Early goal helped them and they played extremely confidently today.

Gogic and Newell I thought where poor and let Celtic dictate and smash shots in from everywhere and Rocky could have done better with the goal that killed us. It just wasn’t to be today, uncharacteristically shaky. You have to credit Celtic too that and McGregor and Brown outstanding.

Since452
27-09-2020, 05:28 PM
''oh dear'' is not spot on, mate. Its partonising pish.

He is welcome to give his opinion, as you have.

That wasn't my answer, at all. My answer was change something, give him support, tell him to hang back a bit etc.

Pot/kettle

B.H.F.C
27-09-2020, 05:37 PM
Very much so. Celtic have a 65 million wage bill. There is a massive gulf in resources and the other clubs can only do so much. It's very difficult.

I don’t think anybody disputes that. But we caused our own downfall today. Take the first goal, Wright makes no effort at all to get out and block the shot. You don’t need to be paid 15k a week to do that. The third goal we give the ball away needlessly under no pressure.

We didn’t work as hard without the ball as we did last week. Not saying that booting folk up in the air is the answer, but the way we got about Rangers last week and unsettled them, in comparison to what we did to Celtic, was night and day.

easty
27-09-2020, 05:38 PM
If we get anything at Celtc Park then it’s a good result and a bonus, but these games don’t define our season.

There were positives and negatives from the performance today, I’m not too worried though.

Bayern and Man City got humped today, and not by the best team in their league.

We’re having a good season and we’ll be right up challenging for 3rd at the end.

S4uzee
27-09-2020, 05:58 PM
Zero shots on target is abysmal at any level. Happened at Parkhead last season too

B.H.F.C
27-09-2020, 06:04 PM
Zero shots on target is abysmal at any level. Happened at Parkhead last season too

Agree with your first point but I thought today was a bit different to last year there. Our quality was rubbish but we wanted to cause them problems. Last year there was absolutely no intent from us. The thing today had most in common, with our last visit, was that we struggled with Frimpong.

JimBHibees
27-09-2020, 06:04 PM
No bark no bite no leadership and far too many players way off the pace, an easy 3 points for them.

Bit harsh thought we were ok but gave away really poor goals.

CMurdoch
27-09-2020, 06:12 PM
2 more games to complete our first round of fixtures. Hamilton on Friday then Ross County.
These are the type of games that define our season not the games against Celtic and Rangers.
2 wins will see us with 7 wins, 2 draws and 2 defeats. 23 points from 11 games would be a good return.
The loss to Aberdeen hurt us. They still have to play Celtic so we are probably a point behind them if all 1st round games go to schedule for both teams.
Nip and tuck with Aberdeen for the rest of the season.

Onion
27-09-2020, 06:15 PM
If Celtic play to their best they beat anyone in the league.

Early goal helped them and they played extremely confidently today.

Gogic and Newell I thought where poor and let Celtic dictate and smash shots in from everywhere and Rocky could have done better with the goal that killed us. It just wasn’t to be today, uncharacteristically shaky. You have to credit Celtic too that and McGregor and Brown outstanding.

McGregor really annoys me, always seems to keep his best games for us. No point in beating ourselves up over this result though. Hibs were positioned as Celtic's toughest game of the season so far and that was bound to make them raise their game. They are going for an historic 10IAR and were always going to bring their A game against us - not always the case against poorer/smaller teams. Our best chance and best results against them invariably come when we're not expected to do well, and they carry all the pressure.

Forget today, move on and go again.

MWHIBBIES
27-09-2020, 06:16 PM
Pot/kettle

How so? I do not reply to posts like that, never have.

wookie70
27-09-2020, 06:18 PM
Not at all. Boring reply, try harder.



Lewis should be starting every game then. If he offers that much more against this level of opposition, he should be playing against everyone. Doig has been good this season and, in my opinion, deserved a bit more than being subbed after a rough 45 minutes. Lewis maybe should have started, but when the decision has been made, try to stick with it and do something with it.

I would start him every week as I think he is a better player. Doig has done pretty well but I still think Lewis should start

B.H.F.C
27-09-2020, 06:23 PM
I would start him every week as I think he is a better player. Doig has done pretty well but I still think Lewis should start

Doig has been a big part of our defensive improvement this season. Left back was a big issue for us last season, which can’t be forgotten. He’s had a couple of tough shifts, this week and last, it might be time for a wee seat on the bench. Totally different game next week, though.

Spike Mandela
27-09-2020, 06:24 PM
Any game you play in the league with no shots on target for the entire game is a poor show no matter the opposition and performance.

One to forget.

wookie70
27-09-2020, 06:39 PM
Doig has been a big part of our defensive improvement this season. Left back was a big issue for us last season, which can’t be forgotten. He’s had a couple of tough shifts, this week and last, it might be time for a wee seat on the bench. Totally different game next week, though.

I listened to Lewis speak on a podcast and he said he really struggled last year due to having no pre-season. He has looked very good to me against the best two teams, particularly in advanced positions. That is Josh's strength but Lewis is putting great balls in and keeping the ball better than Josh imo. Defensively Lewis is streets ahead again imo. Lewis is the better player at the moment and should start but there will be a tipping point. However, I doubt it will be this season

The 90+2
27-09-2020, 06:42 PM
McGregor really annoys me, always seems to keep his best games for us. No point in beating ourselves up over this result though. Hibs were positioned as Celtic's toughest game of the season so far and that was bound to make them raise their game. They are going for an historic 10IAR and were always going to bring their A game against us - not always the case against poorer/smaller teams. Our best chance and best results against them invariably come when we're not expected to do well, and they carry all the pressure.

Forget today, move on and go again.

Far too sensible and great point over both McGregor and how it was billed as their hardest game. Zero complacency at all from them today because it’s was us they where against in comparison with bottom of the table Livi last week. 👍

The 90+2
27-09-2020, 06:45 PM
Any game you play in the league with no shots on target for the entire game is a poor show no matter the opposition and performance.

One to forget.

If it wasn’t for an outstanding block by their defender KN is hitting on target and scoring right before their third.

I don’t think it can ever be as clear cut as that. How much did their defence cost? Duffy is how many millions on loan for a season? They played on top of their game today. It’s like Raith coming to Easter Road and us restricting them to shots off target they could still play reasonable.

Lago
27-09-2020, 06:53 PM
Very much so. Celtic have a 65 million wage bill. There is a massive gulf in resources and the other clubs can only do so much. It's very difficult.
And that tells me everything you need to know about Scottish football.

ballengeich
27-09-2020, 07:00 PM
And that tells me everything you need to know about Scottish football.

It's the same in most countries, unfortunately.

Unseen work
27-09-2020, 08:01 PM
I don’t agree that 0 shots on target is abysmal when we had 7 shots off target and 2 blocked (one of which was almost certainly a goal by Nisbet before the 3rd went in).

Id be more concerned if we had very few shots or limited opportunities. Would a couple of long range efforts into the keepers arms make people feel better?

The chances were still there and that’s the positive, on another day we take them.

The only stat that matters at the end of the day is how many goals each team scores, whether a shot was on or off target does not accurately represent the chance in full.

matty_f
27-09-2020, 10:18 PM
I don’t agree that 0 shots on target is abysmal when we had 7 shots off target and 2 blocked (one of which was almost certainly a goal by Nisbet before the 3rd went in).

Id be more concerned if we had very few shots or limited opportunities. Would a couple of long range efforts into the keepers arms make people feel better?

The chances were still there and that’s the positive, on another day we take them.

The only stat that matters at the end of the day is how many goals each team scores, whether a shot was on or off target does not accurately represent the chance in full.
:agree:

Brightside
28-09-2020, 06:37 AM
Too easy to say Doig should have been dropped. Jack went for a 352 and he knows Josh is better in that role than Lewis now. Unfortunately the system just didn’t work well enough v Celtic and our wing backs were forced to defend rather than do the attacking work. Lewis comes on when we move to a back 4. Everyone totally guessing that Lewis wouldn’t have been ripped a new one in the 352 system. Very few team will go that open v Celtic tbh.

Zambernardi1875
28-09-2020, 06:43 AM
Stevenson could’ve started as left of the 3 centre mids and given doig more help than wright when frimpong was attacking. Then also in a 4-4-2 both played on the left switching positions.

jacomo
28-09-2020, 07:26 AM
''oh dear'' is not spot on, mate. Its partonising pish.

He is welcome to give his opinion, as you have.

That wasn't my answer, at all. My answer was change something, give him support, tell him to hang back a bit etc.


Nah your original reply came across as both sarcastic and condescending, where you declared it ‘amazing’ that subbing Doig hadn’t turned a loss into a win.

Too much attempted point scoring on here, not enough understanding. It’s enraging.

MWHIBBIES
28-09-2020, 07:57 AM
Nah your original reply came across as both sarcastic and condescending, where you declared it ‘amazing’ that subbing Doig hadn’t turned a loss into a win.

Too much attempted point scoring on here, not enough understanding. It’s enraging.

I wasn't trying to point score. I was giving my thoughts on something that about 50 people were insisting needing to happen. If Doing is our long term option, we should be trusting and teaching him. Just my opinion. A daft reply like ",oh dear" or just saying Im consistently wrong can gtf. Those are pathetic replies.

jacomo
28-09-2020, 09:41 AM
I wasn't trying to point score. I was giving my thoughts on something that about 50 people were insisting needing to happen. If Doing is our long term option, we should be trusting and teaching him. Just my opinion. A daft reply like ",oh dear" or just saying Im consistently wrong can gtf. Those are pathetic replies.


I think we all agree that Josh looks a really good long term option, but he’s still learning. Mistakes will happen. Subbing him was the right call imo - you are entitled to a different opinion of course, but your sarcasm and implication that you know better than everyone else is tiresome.

MWHIBBIES
28-09-2020, 09:46 AM
I think we all agree that Josh looks a really good long term option, but he’s still learning. Mistakes will happen. Subbing him was the right call imo - you are entitled to a different opinion of course, but your sarcasm and implication that you know better than everyone else is tiresome.

Oh yes, whereas saying I'm always wrong and ''oh dear'' wasn't tiresome at all.

At least I actually backed myself up with some opinions. You may not have liked how you interpreted my tone but you contributed far less by just having a go at me.

The Count
28-09-2020, 09:53 AM
Too many Captain Mannerings on here.Over the years we rarely win at Parkhead and as someone else said games at Parkhead and Ibrox will not define our season.The defeat against Aberdeen at home has been our only bad result and yes games against the sheep will partly define our season.Beat Hamilton on Friday and it will be a very good start to the season.Personally now looking for third a third place finish in the league or at least fourth.Prize money from league and europe will be badly needed.

CMurdoch
28-09-2020, 10:25 AM
And that tells me everything you need to know about Scottish football.

It's the same reason we will finish no lower than 4th this season.
If decent decisions are made in player and manager recruitment then budget will generally dictate final league positions.

Robbo6-2
28-09-2020, 11:32 AM
You can always lose at Parkhead by 3 or more goals, it was the manner of the defeat that frustrated me.

We didny lay a glove on them the whole 90 mins. We were far to passive throughout and never got close to them.

Felt sorry for Diog tbh, this was a perfect time to put Lewy in after a good start to his professional career. Frimpong is unplayable when he is in the mood and move have gave any one in spfl a torrid time

B.H.F.C
28-09-2020, 12:14 PM
We didny lay a glove on them the whole 90 mins. We were far to passive throughout and never got close to them.


That was what annoyed me as well. We were nowhere near as aggressive as we were against The Rangers last week, especially without the ball.

Brightside
28-09-2020, 01:12 PM
You can always lose at Parkhead by 3 or more goals, it was the manner of the defeat that frustrated me.

We didny lay a glove on them the whole 90 mins. We were far to passive throughout and never got close to them.

Felt sorry for Diog tbh, this was a perfect time to put Lewy in after a good start to his professional career. Frimpong is unplayable when he is in the mood and move have gave any one in spfl a torrid time

Thats just wrong imo. We created multiple chances. Had we went out and just sat back I'd have understood the comments, but we did go out and have a go (especially in the first half)

JimBHibees
28-09-2020, 02:58 PM
That was what annoyed me as well. We were nowhere near as aggressive as we were against The Rangers last week, especially without the ball.

Thought first half we were good two very poor goals aside. First half hour of second half was very passive however Celtic were very good in that stage especially with Eduard on. Murphy improved us going forward however we were very light in midfield centrally in second half imo.

Stonewall
28-09-2020, 06:46 PM
I think we all agree that Josh looks a really good long term option, but he’s still learning. Mistakes will happen. Subbing him was the right call imo - you are entitled to a different opinion of course, but your sarcasm and implication that you know better than everyone else is tiresome.

I think Stevenson should have started but as I constantly bang on about our young players not getting opportunities to play I’m not really going to get too upset when one struggles in a game. Always have to have one eye on the future.