Boli Bolingoli

[The Baldmans Comb]

All depends on how you view it, for me footballers are no different from anyone else, and they will make mistakes or do daft things like the rest of us.

Of course Bolingoli is a complete idiot, he deserves to be punished severely from his club. Yet in England if someone like Archer the cricketer, who did similar to the Aberdeen players, he was stopped from playing and the game took place.

Aberdeen should have played their game without the players who might have been compromised, and i mean everyone who might have been compromised.

If it meant they had to go with youth players, then that's just hard luck, and the same thing applies to Celtic.

Football is one of the safest bubbles around at the moment, and again an easy target in my opinion.

Aberdeens game against St Johnstone wasnt postponed because of the actions of the Aberdeen 8 nor was tonight's game v Hamilton postponed due to any action of the daft players.

Currently there is a 5 mile travel restriction around Aberdeen and both games were postponed because of the pandemic cluster in the region and the danger of it spreading out with the region.

Given the lockdown has now been extended this raises the possibility that our game at the end of the month has an outside chance of being canceled as well unless new cases begins to fall and the lockdown gets lifted.

[jacomo]

Again, the Scottish government made it clear that, no matter how small the risk, they do not want to see the possibility of Aberdeen taking the virus to Perth.


Ludicrous position. Decisions need to be made on a balance of risk, otherwise nothing at all will happen. If the 8 players are self isolating, the risk is surely very very small.

[Billy Whizz]

Ludicrous position. Decisions need to be made on a balance of risk, otherwise nothing at all will happen. If the 8 players are self isolating, the risk is surely very very small.

Did they not go to training, the morning after the night out?

[jacomo]

Did they not go to training, the morning after the night out?


That I do not know. If so, then it does cause an additional issue.

[Sir David Gray]

Aberdeens game against St Johnstone wasnt postponed because of the actions of the Aberdeen 8 nor was tonight's game v Hamilton postponed due to any action of the daft players.

Currently there is a 5 mile travel restriction around Aberdeen and both games were postponed because of the pandemic cluster in the region and the danger of it spreading out with the region.

Given the lockdown has now been extended this raises the possibility that our game at the end of the month has an outside chance of being canceled as well unless new cases begins to fall and the lockdown gets lifted.

That's not correct, the games were both postponed as a result of the incident with the Aberdeen players, the 5 mile limit on travel does not apply if you're travelling for work which the football players obviously would be.

Lockdown was announced for Aberdeen on 5th August, their match v St Johnstone wasn't postponed until 7th August and the Hamilton game postponed yesterday.

[CropleyWasGod]

That I do not know. If so, then it does cause an additional issue.

They did, which is why they weren't drinking much.
It was only through the routine testing at training that the diagnoses became known.

[The Baldmans Comb]

That's not correct, the games were both postponed as a result of the incident with the Aberdeen players, the 5 mile limit on travel does not apply if you're travelling for work which the football players obviously would be.

Lockdown was announced for Aberdeen on 5th August, their match v St Johnstone wasn't postponed until 7th August and the Hamilton game postponed yesterday.

We will have to agree to disagree then as the National Clinical Director Jason Leitch oulined the reasons at one of the mornings press conference.

The Hamilton postponement was a huge shock to Aberdeen and came out of the blue because as of Monday the game was on but then was swamped by the Boli news that night.

As late as Tuesday the SPFL saw no danger to the Hamilton game.

The SPFL were going to put proper punishments in place for future breaches which might bring some fairness to the situation as Aberdeen
are clearly benefitting by having all 8 players eligible for the rearranged fixtures.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Has to be sacked ( if not already ). A message to others and the powers that be , that this is being taken seriously.


what punishment would you like if he was our player that we had paid £3m for :dunno:

[Sir David Gray]

We will have to agree to disagree then as the National Clinical Director Jason Leitch oulined the reasons at one of the mornings press conference.

The Hamilton postponement was a huge shock to Aberdeen and came out of the blue because as of Monday the game was on but then was swamped by the Boli news.

The SPFL were going to put proper punishments in place for future breaches which might bring some fairness to the situation as Aberdeen
are clearly benefitting by having all 8 players eligible for the rearranged fixtures.

What was it that he said?

[PolmontHibby]

what punishment would you like if he was our player that we had paid £3m for :dunno:

I would look in to whether breach of contract and damages possible, similar to Mutu/Chelsea case.

The big flaw of course is that while Mutu has failed to get the damages reverse in any court all the up to the European Court of Human Rights he doesnt appear to have paid anything to Chelsea.

[Ringothedog]

I would make any players that fall foul of the rules ineligible for the rearranged fixtures

[Sammy7nil]

what punishment would you like if he was our player that we had paid £3m for :dunno:

I think I would be talking to the agent asking him to recoup some of the cash 💰 and get rid ASAP.

[cabbageandribs1875]

I would look in to whether breach of contract and damages possible, similar to Mutu/Chelsea case.

The big flaw of course is that while Mutu has failed to get the damages reverse in any court all the up to the European Court of Human Rights he doesnt appear to have paid anything to Chelsea.


sorry i'm not aware of that case, but if we had forked out £3m on a player i'm quite sure we would all(certainly most) settle for a two weeks fine

[cabbageandribs1875]

I think I would be talking to the agent asking him to recoup some of the cash 💰 and get rid ASAP.

fair do's, but i'm sure it would boil down to just how useful the player was for us

John mcginn = two weeks fine
flo kamberi = try cash in

[21.05.2016]

Selfish ******** whos put so many people at risk including his own friends and team mates mates because he clearly thought he was above the rules and was thinking of himself. I would not want to be him when Celtic got a hold of him thats for sure!

His team mates will quite rightly be furious because firstly and most importantly he has put their health and their loved ones health at risk and secondly, for the football side of things he has put Celtic at a big disadvantage early doors to Rangers. I reckon it wil be close this season between them but already Rangers could potentially be 8 points clear of them before Celtic are allowed to kick a ball again. Now obviously Celtic will have those games in hand to play but those games will have to be crammed in somewhere midweek id imagine which can be tiring but also playing catch up and being that far behind could psychologically be negative.

[Since90+2]

Selfish ******** whos put so many people at risk including his own friends and team mates mates because he clearly thought he was above the rules and was thinking of himself. I would not want to be him when Celtic got a hold of him thats for sure!

His team mates will quite rightly be furious because firstly and most importantly he has put their health and their loved ones health at risk and secondly, for the football side of things he has put Celtic at a big disadvantage early doors to Rangers. I reckon it wil be close this season between them but already Rangers could potentially be 8 points clear of them before Celtic are allowed to kick a ball again. Now obviously Celtic will have those games in hand to play but those games will have to be crammed in somewhere midweek id imagine which can be tiring but also playing catch up and being that far behind could psychologically be negative.

Rangers will be 11 points clear of Celtic if they win their games bpefore Celtic play again. They play 3 times before Celtic at Tannadice.

Although Celtic will have 3 games in hand that's a massive phycological boost at this stage. To be honest if Rangers go 11 clear it'd be hard to see Celtic pulling that back. Bollongoli will not be a popular figure in Glasgow.

[Phil MaGlass]

The player and Dons players should be massively fined and as one person mentioned on STV website, the fine money should be distributed evenly between lower league clubs.

[Logie Green]

Rangers will be 11 points clear of Celtic if they win their games bpefore Celtic play again. They play 3 times before Celtic at Tannadice.

Although Celtic will have 3 games in hand that's a massive phycological boost at this stage. To be honest if Rangers go 11 clear it'd be hard to see Celtic pulling that back. Bollongoli will not be a popular figure in Glasgow.

I think he’ll be popular with many people in Glasgow. 😜

[FilipinoHibs]

The player and Dons players should be massively fined and as one person mentioned on STV website, the fine money should be distributed evenly between lower league clubs.

As others have said not just Aberdeen players who were out. They were the ones who got caught. Boli and Aberdeen players have done us all a favour. Even the most stupid player is not likely to transgress now.

[Rumble de Thump]

As others have said not just Aberdeen players who were out. They were the ones who got caught. Boli and Aberdeen players have done us all a favour. Even the most stupid player is not likely to transgress now.

People have said it, but is it true?

[Phil MaGlass]

As others have said not just Aberdeen players who were out. They were the ones who got caught. Boli and Aberdeen players have done us all a favour. Even the most stupid player is not likely to transgress now.

Some football players are so f,n dumb it is bound to happen again, wee bit like death, it is inevitable.

[Brizo]

As others have said not just Aberdeen players who were out. They were the ones who got caught. Boli and Aberdeen players have done us all a favour. Even the most stupid player is not likely to transgress now.

I wouldn't underestimate the stupidity and arrogance of a lot of professional players.

[Sammy7nil]

Rangers will be 11 points clear of Celtic if they win their games bpefore Celtic play again. They play 3 times before Celtic at Tannadice.

Although Celtic will have 3 games in hand that's a massive phycological boost at this stage. To be honest if Rangers go 11 clear it'd be hard to see Celtic pulling that back. Bollongoli will not be a popular figure in Glasgow.

I agree it may be difficult for Celtic however the key game will be the first OF match should Rangers win that game it would be a massive boost for Rangers.

[Sir David Gray]

Rangers will be 11 points clear of Celtic if they win their games bpefore Celtic play again. They play 3 times before Celtic at Tannadice.

Although Celtic will have 3 games in hand that's a massive phycological boost at this stage. To be honest if Rangers go 11 clear it'd be hard to see Celtic pulling that back. Bollongoli will not be a popular figure in Glasgow.

I'm not sure it would be hard to see Celtic pulling it back. They have 36 games still to play, the motivation of 10 in a row and still have 4 games v Rangers to play.

Rangers will drop points, not many but they will. I would still back Celtic even if they do go 11 points behind.

[FilipinoHibs]

People have said it, but is it true?Reported on the Aberdeen thread. Poster did not reveal their names to protect them.

[FilipinoHibs]

I wouldn't underestimate the stupidity and arrogance of a lot of professional players.

We have had it then. Just a matter of time.

[Moulin Yarns]

Reported on the Aberdeen thread. Poster did not reveal their names to protect them.

You are desperate for it to be true and that the players are identified. Why?

[Keith_M]

You are desperate for it to be true and that the players are identified. Why?


:agree:


it certainly seems to be coming over that way.

[FilipinoHibs]

You are desperate for it to be true and that the players are identified. Why?

It clearly is true from the report on the Aberdeen thread. Nowhere do I say I want their names revealed. The poster did the right thing by not naming them. I am sure the club have read the thread and given the squad a good talking to. Imagine if a Jambo had seen them and posted pictures on social media. It would be us that are in hot water and having only one game under our belt now. We have had a close shave. Hope the message has hit home after Aberdeen and Boli.

[green day]

It clearly is true from the report on the Aberdeen thread. Nowhere do I say I want their names revealed. The poster did the right thing by not naming them. I am sure the club have read the thread and given the squad a good talking to. Imagine if a Jambo had seen them and posted pictures on social media. It would be us that are in hot water and having only one game under our belt now. We have had a close shave. Hope the message has hit home after Aberdeen and Boli.

From what I have read here and on P&B, both Hibs and St Johnstone also had players out on the same weekend.

I am not altogether surprised at this, but what happened with Aberdeen should be a bit of a wake up call to them. There is zero chance that the club and management do not know this happened, and I am positive that words will have been had.

Remember also that Ron G is over in the UK just now, so its also possible that he has reiterated the rules for the avoidance of any doubt.

I dont see any Hibs player doing a Bolingoli, but equally I wont be for hanging them if a small group (4 or less)are pictured out having a meal or something sensible.

[tonyrougier123]

As others have said not just Aberdeen players who were out. They were the ones who got caught. Boli and Aberdeen players have done us all a favour. Even the most stupid player is not likely to transgress now.

Aberdeen is in local lockdown with tight restrictions,that's why the aberdeen 8 got hammered for being out surely?Edinburgh has less restrictions so more chance players will be out in public places within sensible reason no doubt.

[Gordy M]

Aberdeen is in local lockdown with tight restrictions,that's why the aberdeen 8 got hammered for being out surely?Edinburgh has less restrictions so more chance players will be out in public places within sensible reason no doubt.

To be fair, the local lockdown wasnt in place at that time. It was that particular night that the first outbreak happened. They were under the same restrictions as therest of the country when they were out.

[ballengeich]

It's typical of the SPFL's adminstrative ineptitude that there seem to have been no proposals for new regulations to deal with various circumstances which could arise from Covid19. Players and clubs can't be retrospectively punished for something which wasn't against the rules at the time so I don't expect Aberdeen and Celtic to face any penalty.

The SPFL executive should be presenting proposals to the clubs for how to deal with future breaching of Covid regulations, and what will be done in the event that the season is interrupted or forced to a premature end. To date all they've done was put forward a proposal to allow the board to take decisions as and when a problem arose without a general vote and this was rejected by the clubs. The only excuse I can see for their inaction is that resources were diverted to a wholly unnecessary court case caused by two clubs being unwilling to accept the outcome of a democratic vote.

While Doncaster is technically the servant of the clubs, for the salary he's on I'd expect him to be taking the initiative and putting ideas forward for the clubs to consider. He's been here since 2009. I don't think he expected the job to last so long and that he'd have been long gone if there was anywhere else in the world he could bring in the same pay.

[mal]

The SPFL will have been in crisis management for months just trying to get the season up and running. I doubt if anyone could possibly have anticipated a player doing something as bat**** crazy as Bolingoli so, even if punishments had been put in place for other breaches, there would not have been a set penalty in place for that.

[Keith_M]

Aberdeen is in local lockdown with tight restrictions,that's why the aberdeen 8 got hammered for being out surely?Edinburgh has less restrictions so more chance players will be out in public places within sensible reason no doubt.


It wasn't during the local lockdown when they went out together. They actually broke a rule that already applied to the whole of Scotland at the time, which was the number of households allowed to meet as a group.

I think it's been frowned on a lot more because football has been given a lot of leeway to allow a re-start and I think there's a danger it will be made an example of, given it's high profile.


FWIW, I think what Bolingoli did was much more stupid than the Aberdeen players going out for a drink.

[Paisley Hibby]

It wasn't during the local lockdown when they went out together. They actually broke a rule that already applied to the whole of Scotland at the time, which was the number of households allowed to meet as a group.

I think it's been frowned on a lot more because football has been given a lot of leeway to allow a re-start and I think there's a danger it will be made an example of, given it's high profile.


FWIW, I think what Bolingoli did was much more stupid than the Aberdeen players going out for a drink.

I agree with all that except that what Bolingoli did was "stupid". It was much worse than that - it was deliberate, he knew exactly how wrong it was but thought he'd get away with it. But he got caught and the best he could say was that he apologised for his poor judgement (ie his judgement that he wouldn't get caught so he'd just do as he liked). He's finished at Celtic who will now be trying to offload him probably at a fire sale price. If his agent doesn't cooperate I suggest Celtic tell them they'll organise a free bar in the Springfield Vaults this Saturday and, after 3 hours, send Boli in as "guest of honour" and lock the doors.

[Sir David Gray]

From what I have read here and on P&B, both Hibs and St Johnstone also had players out on the same weekend.

I am not altogether surprised at this, but what happened with Aberdeen should be a bit of a wake up call to them. There is zero chance that the club and management do not know this happened, and I am positive that words will have been had.

Remember also that Ron G is over in the UK just now, so its also possible that he has reiterated the rules for the avoidance of any doubt.

I dont see any Hibs player doing a Bolingoli, but equally I wont be for hanging them if a small group (4 or less)are pictured out having a meal or something sensible.

Up to 3 of them going out for a meal together would be entirely acceptable and within the rules.

[Hibs90]

It clearly is true from the report on the Aberdeen thread. Nowhere do I say I want their names revealed. The poster did the right thing by not naming them. I am sure the club have read the thread and given the squad a good talking to. Imagine if a Jambo had seen them and posted pictures on social media. It would be us that are in hot water and having only one game under our belt now. We have had a close shave. Hope the message has hit home after Aberdeen and Boli.
More pish from you

[CentreLine]

You are desperate for it to be true and that the players are identified. Why?

I was very keen to call the bluff of this post and asked that the OP itemise which of the government guidelines they were convinced had been breached and to name names if it was true.
Not sure that FilipinoHibee asked for names.
My issue really was with people taking it as gospel that our players had breached the rules just because someone suggested so on here. It simply illustrates how little it takes to throw mud and hope it sticks. Internet facts eh?!!’

[SHODAN]

https://spfl.co.uk/news/joint-response-group-update-130820?fbclid=IwAR0lTd48DHCuNrpomhciWaip-ZDnIj90e9uxu9xNTEqh0n0HUNWAEsOZfVI

Future player sanctions to be revealed tomorrow.

[CentreLine]

https://spfl.co.uk/news/joint-response-group-update-130820?fbclid=IwAR0lTd48DHCuNrpomhciWaip-ZDnIj90e9uxu9xNTEqh0n0HUNWAEsOZfVI

Future player sanctions to be revealed tomorrow.

And if I’ve read correctly it looks like any clubs outside of the Premiership have had any return to training postponed until at least 24th August.

[CropleyWasGod]

https://spfl.co.uk/news/joint-response-group-update-130820?fbclid=IwAR0lTd48DHCuNrpomhciWaip-ZDnIj90e9uxu9xNTEqh0n0HUNWAEsOZfVI

Future player sanctions to be revealed tomorrow.

"This will encompass recent breaches"

[Billy Whizz]

"This will encompass recent breaches"

Interesting

[04Sauzee]

Additional guidance notes

1. Glasgow City Women’s FC can continue to train in preparation for their UEFA Women’s Champions League tie against Wolfsburg on 21 August and will be visited to audit and verify compliance.
2. Heart of Midlothian FC has been informed of the need to pause their current training programme until at least 24 August.
3. Adult (over-18) recreational football will not be permitted to participate in any form of organised training.
4. Youth (under-18) football can continue in line with current Scottish Government guidance."

[Andy74]

Additional guidance notes

1. Glasgow City Women’s FC can continue to train in preparation for their UEFA Women’s Champions League tie against Wolfsburg on 21 August and will be visited to audit and verify compliance.
2. Heart of Midlothian FC has been informed of the need to pause their current training programme until at least 24 August.
3. Adult (over-18) recreational football will not be permitted to participate in any form of organised training.
4. Youth (under-18) football can continue in line with current Scottish Government guidance."

Why are Hearts specifically mentioned?

[Billy Whizz]

Additional guidance notes

1. Glasgow City Women’s FC can continue to train in preparation for their UEFA Women’s Champions League tie against Wolfsburg on 21 August and will be visited to audit and verify compliance.
2. Heart of Midlothian FC has been informed of the need to pause their current training programme until at least 24 August.
3. Adult (over-18) recreational football will not be permitted to participate in any form of organised training.
4. Youth (under-18) football can continue in line with current Scottish Government guidance."

Think on point 3, the update is next Thursday

Presume none of the other lower league teams, apart from Hearts have started training yet?

[Billy Whizz]

Why are Hearts specifically mentioned?

Presumably as they are the only non Premiership team training?

[Brizo]

We have had it then. Just a matter of time.

Unfortunately, I think so.

[mutley]

Why are Hearts specifically mentioned?

I believe they were given special dispensation to train............. didn’t really last long though.


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[Sylar]

Additional guidance notes

1. Glasgow City Women’s FC can continue to train in preparation for their UEFA Women’s Champions League tie against Wolfsburg on 21 August and will be visited to audit and verify compliance.
2. Heart of Midlothian FC has been informed of the need to pause their current training programme until at least 24 August.
3. Adult (over-18) recreational football will not be permitted to participate in any form of organised training.
4. Youth (under-18) football can continue in line with current Scottish Government guidance."

If Bolingoolie and that group of sheep molesting *******s have further delayed our ability to return to recreational football, I sincerely hope both clubs suffer every tragedy possible between now and the end of the season.

Scotland was doing a lot of great work with a number of mental health football groups, and the return of these is long overdue. If these overpaid primadonas have scuppered that, they can lose their jobs and inflated salaries immediately.

[Kaff]

If Bolingoolie and that group of sheep molesting *******s have further delayed our ability to return to recreational football, I sincerely hope both clubs suffer every tragedy possible between now and the end of the season.

Scotland was doing a lot of great work with a number of mental health football groups, and the return of these is long overdue. If these overpaid primadonas have scuppered that, they can lose their jobs and inflated salaries immediately.

Agree, in general as long as by tragedy you mean financial.

Today's announcement affects no footballer in the top league, who follows government guidelines, yet all organised football training under the 5 households and social distancing rules for adults is stopped. Totally unfair and doesn't target the problem.
Any professional footballer who has deprived amateurs of their pastime should be ashamed of themselves

[Sylar]

Agree, in general as long as by tragedy you mean financial.

Today's announcement affects no footballer in the top league, who follows government guidelines, yet all organised football training under the 5 households and social distancing rules for adults is stopped. Totally unfair and doesn't target the problem.
Any professional footballer who has deprived amateurs of their pastime should be ashamed of themselves

Oh, absolutely! Maybe 'tragedy' was too strong a word, but I definitely don't wish their collective players any actual harm!

[Sir David Gray]

If Bolingoolie and that group of sheep molesting *******s have further delayed our ability to return to recreational football, I sincerely hope both clubs suffer every tragedy possible between now and the end of the season.

Scotland was doing a lot of great work with a number of mental health football groups, and the return of these is long overdue. If these overpaid primadonas have scuppered that, they can lose their jobs and inflated salaries immediately.

Totally agree. The ongoing delays to resuming a large proportion of adult sporting activities is going to end up causing a mental health pandemic.

[FilipinoHibs]

More pish from you

When the argument is lost, the loser resorts to insults.

So what is your counter argument that it was not an issue and we as a club were not at risk?

[FilipinoHibs]

I was very keen to call the bluff of this post and asked that the OP itemise which of the government guidelines they were convinced had been breached and to name names if it was true.
Not sure that FilipinoHibee asked for names.
My issue really was with people taking it as gospel that our players had breached the rules just because someone suggested so on here. It simply illustrates how little it takes to throw mud and hope it sticks. Internet facts eh?!!’

The person who reported it on the Aberdeen thread gave at first a general description of what he personally saw. Then when challenged he gave a detailed description of what he observed. It was not a rumour but his personal observations of the players. There are of course stories circulating about Hibs and ST Jonstone players being out that weekend. But my post was based on a detailed siting of our players by a poster on here who diplomatically did not name names. I don't want to who it was as I just be down and disappointed with the players.

[Hibs90]

When the argument is lost, the loser resorts to insults.

So what is your counter argument that it was not an issue and we as a club were not at risk?

What are you talking about?

You're **** stirring again. No Hibs players have broken any rules. Bore off.

[Hibs90]

The person who reported it on the Aberdeen thread gave at first a general description of what he personally saw. Then when challenged he gave a detailed description of what he observed. It was not a rumour but his personal observations of the players. There are of course stories circulating about Hibs and ST Jonstone players being out that weekend. But my post was based on a detailed siting of our players by a poster on here who diplomatically did not name names. I don't want to who it was as I just be down and disappointed with the players.

That doesn't make it a fact just because someone gave details. No Hibs players have broken rules.

[FilipinoHibs]

What are you talking about?

You're **** stirring again. No Hibs players have broken any rules. Bore off.

And you said I wash talking p**h🤪

[Rumble de Thump]

And you said I wash talking p**h🤪

You'll be well aware that you are. A random stranger posting something on an online forum and someone, such as yourself, spreading that as though it is a fact, is the very definition of a rumour. The question is why are you spreading it?

[Bristolhibby]

You'll be well aware that you are. A random stranger posting something on an online forum and someone, such as yourself, spreading that as though it is a fact, is the very definition of a rumour. The question is why are you spreading it?

Because it’s a Hibs message board.

Take it if leave it. On the balance of probability and knowing 20 something blokes (I used to be one), I’m pretty certain that there were Hibs players out that weekend.

Pretty sure they will have heeded the rules on the back of the transgressions.

J

[Rumble de Thump]

Because it’s a Hibs message board.

Take it if leave it. On the balance of probability and knowing 20 something blokes (I used to be one), I’m pretty certain that there were Hibs players out that weekend.

Pretty sure they will have heeded the rules on the back of the transgressions.

J

Cheers, but unfortunately that doesn't answer the question. And I'm not sure anyone can be pretty sure or pretty certain about something they've imagined.

[Hibs90]

And you said I wash talking p**h🤪

Becaus you are

[CentreLine]

Because it’s a Hibs message board.

Take it if leave it. On the balance of probability and knowing 20 something blokes (I used to be one), I’m pretty certain that there were Hibs players out that weekend.

Pretty sure they will have heeded the rules on the back of the transgressions.

J

I hope the change went well for you 😉

[mal]

The time to believe that something is true is when there is sufficient evidence that it is true. Some dude saying something on the internet ought not to be sufficient evidence for someone with reasonable standards, otherwise it's hardly worth worrying about the football what with all the alien abductions, the reptilians and the imminent Rapture. Believing things with insufficient evidence is dangerous because if your standards are so low what can you not be made to believe? You are open to con artists and propagandists. Spreading such unsubstantiated rumours as if they are fact is irresponsible and obnoxious as it increases the amount of disinformation out there and, hence, erodes our confidence in what is actually true. We do not know that there were Hibs players in breach the rules, nor do we know that there were no Hibs players in breach of the rules. To claim that you know for certain that this is the case, unless you have sufficient evidence, is simply dishonest and makes you a person whose word is not to be trusted.

[Callum_62]

They are allowed to go out arnt they?

In a small group though, correct?

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[CentreLine]

They are allowed to go out arnt they?

In a small group though, correct?

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Correct. Same as the rest of us.

[oneone73]

They are allowed to go out arnt they?

In a small group though, correct?

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No more than three households.

[mcohibs]

"This will encompass recent breaches"

Any new punishments put in place for breaking Covid regulations have to be applied to Aberdeen and Celtic also. There woukd be uproar if Rangers for example were punished down the line for a breach of rules and nothing was done to Aberdeen or Celtic.

Tbh its a farce that nothing was stipulated before the season began with regards to rule breaches.

[Sir David Gray]

Additional guidance notes

1. Glasgow City Women’s FC can continue to train in preparation for their UEFA Women’s Champions League tie against Wolfsburg on 21 August and will be visited to audit and verify compliance.
2. Heart of Midlothian FC has been informed of the need to pause their current training programme until at least 24 August.
3. Adult (over-18) recreational football will not be permitted to participate in any form of organised training.
4. Youth (under-18) football can continue in line with current Scottish Government guidance."

Hearts banned from training but Hull City are allowed to travel over 260 miles to train at a pre-season camp at Oriam. :confused:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53778776

[A Hi-Bee]

Hearts banned from training but Hull City are allowed to travel over 260 miles to train at a pre-season camp at Oriam. :confused:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53778776

Dont see whats wrong, hertz having an unfair advantage over the rest of the smaller teams in their division is wrong.
**** the hertz
:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin :greengrin:greengrin

[jonty]

Boli Bolingoli and the ‘Aberdeen eight’ have been charged by the Scottish FA for not complying with the laws of the game and also bringing the game into disrepute.

They have also opened disciplinary proceedings against both Aberdeen and Celtic for alleged protocol breaches.

(Radio forth twitter)

[Kaff]

https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/news/coronavirus-joint-response-group-update-14-august/?rid=13929

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/news/coronavirus-joint-response-group-update-14-august/?rid=13929

Good news. Hopefully a multi game ban for each of them.


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[SHODAN]

Good news. Hopefully a multi game ban for each of them.


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That will completely **** Aberdeen, but I guess that's the point. Make an example of them.

[Jim44]

I wonder what draconian punishments will be handed out by the SFA, if they reckoned the ridiculous 2 to 3 months shambles caused by HMFC was only worthy of a silly £2.5K fine. A suspended slap on the wrist will probably suffice.:rolleyes:

[Ozyhibby]

That will completely **** Aberdeen, but I guess that's the point. Make an example of them.

Yip. A hellish fixture pile up minus 8 players for 2 or 3 games would be horrendous for them. Shame.


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[mal]

I wonder what draconian punishments will be handed out by the SFA, if they reckoned the ridiculous 2 to 3 months shambles caused by HMFC was only worthy of a silly £2.5K fine. A suspended slap on the wrist will probably suffice.:rolleyes:

DR suggests up to 16 game suspension for each player. They're charged on 2 counts with up to 8 games suspension for each. The hearing date is 28 August. Our game against the Dons is 30 August. If suspensions are applied immediately that leaves their team gutted and with no time to prepare. Might be worth a wee visit to the bookies for anyone inclined to try to beat the odds. Does anyone know if there's any precedent for punishments not beginning immediately?

ETA: What sort of side would they be able to put out with these players suspended? Bruce Anderson, Craig Bryson, Sam Cosgrove*, Michael Devlin*, Jonny Hayes, Matty Kennedy, Dylan McGeouch and Scott McKenna. I've highlighted those that started against Sevco.

*Injured

Aberdeen team v Rangers:


1 Lewis
22 Hernandez
14 Taylor
5 McKenna
4 Considine
17 Hayes
19 Ferguson
8 Ojo
33 Kennedy
7 Bryson
21 Anderson


Substitutes
2 Logan
3 Hoban
10 McGinn
11 Hedges
15 McGeouch
18 McLennan
20 Cerny
24 Campbell
32 Edmondson (now out injured)

[Spike Mandela]

Should be a 10 game ban with seven suspended for any player from any team even if it's 11 first team Hibs players.

Time to stop pussyfooting about and actually be an organisation that deserves to be the authority in the Scottish game.

[mal]

Should be a 10 game ban with seven suspende for any player from any team even if it's 11 first team Hibs players.

Time to stop pussyfooting about and actually be an organisation that deserves the word 'authority' in their name.

SFA? Association.

[Spike Mandela]

SFA? Association.

:faf::faf::faf: That’s another reason they don’t deserve the word authority, but you get my drift:shotdowni:shotdowni

Post suitably edited now.��

[Keith_M]

Because it’s a Hibs message board.

Take it if leave it. On the balance of probability and knowing 20 something blokes (I used to be one), I’m pretty certain that there were Hibs players out that weekend.

Pretty sure they will have heeded the rules on the back of the transgressions.

J



Never mind how many blokes you know... what's all this about you having a sex change???

[CentreLine]

Never mind how many blokes you know... what's all this about you having a sex change???

Bristol Hibee 🤭

[Steven79]

Good news. Hopefully a multi game ban for each of them.


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We play Aberdeen two days after they meet...

[Since90+2]

We play Aberdeen two days after they meet...

I wonder if the decision will be made on that date or will it be later meaning all 8 could play?

[Ozyhibby]

I wonder if the decision will be made on that date or will it be later meaning all 8 could play?

Usually make the decision that day.


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[FilipinoHibs]

The time to believe that something is true is when there is sufficient evidence that it is true. Some dude saying something on the internet ought not to be sufficient evidence for someone with reasonable standards, otherwise it's hardly worth worrying about the football what with all the alien abductions, the reptilians and the imminent Rapture. Believing things with insufficient evidence is dangerous because if your standards are so low what can you not be made to believe? You are open to con artists and propagandists. Spreading such unsubstantiated rumours as if they are fact is irresponsible and obnoxious as it increases the amount of disinformation out there and, hence, erodes our confidence in what is actually true. We do not know that there were Hibs players in breach the rules, nor do we know that there were no Hibs players in breach of the rules. To claim that you know for certain that this is the case, unless you have sufficient evidence, is simply dishonest and makes you a person whose word is not to be trusted.

Here is the post from the Aberdeen thread. The person must have a very fertile imagination to have had so much detail:


No need to sound like I am making stuff up, I came out a pub in the Grassmarket and there were 5 Hibs players together trying to get in as I was leaving, as most places you had to prebook they were refused entry, they then went onto try and get into other pubs, don’t know if they had any luck but my point is everyone is having a go at these Aberdeen players when there were Hibs players trying to do the same thing, even if they didn’t get in anywhere they tried too

[CentreLine]

Here is the post from the Aberdeen thread. The person must have a very fertile imagination to have had so much detail:

Let’s assume this poster was accurate in his account. Without knowing anything more of the circumstances how can you point the finger and suggest these anonymous players were breaking any rules?
Bearing in mind that there is nothing to stop football players going to a pub providing they stick to the rules about social distancing and mixing households

[Hibs90]

Here is the post from the Aberdeen thread. The person must have a very fertile imagination to have had so much detail:

It's not true

[mal]

Here is the post from the Aberdeen thread. The person must have a very fertile imagination to have had so much detail:

I genuinely laughed out loud at that. I can only suggest that you never read a Harry Potter novel - it would BLOW YOUR MIND!

Seriously, if that's what constitutes proof for you, such that you are prepared to go around repeating it as fact rather than an unsubstantiated allegation, then you are the most credulous individual I have ever encountered and I seriously hope you never end up on a jury.

[Billy Whizz]

Ian Maxwell saying that the players can be banned for between 2 and 8 games, if found guilty
It’s the role of the compliance officer though

[Greenbeard]

Lennon is so anti-Hibs these days. Hibs act appropriately and swiftly when test results don't arrive on time and Lennon says we need to get our house in order? P1sh.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53817817

Not much to report on Scottish football when his anti-HIbs comments get massive back page headlines in all the tabloids. Just shows the Leny love-in and anti-Hibs meejah through west still lives on.

[Keith_M]

Lennon is so anti-Hibs these days. Hibs act appropriately and swiftly when test results don't arrive on time and Lennon says we need to get our house in order? P1sh.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53817817

Not much to report on Scottish football when his anti-HIbs comments get massive back page headlines in all the tabloids. Just shows the Leny love-in and anti-Hibs meejah through west still lives on.


RG was asked a leading question about whether Aberdeen and Celtc should have points deducted and he said he "wouldn't be against it". This was then reported in various papers as him demanding a points deduction.

This is just a typical example of the Media stirring it and Lennon being stupid enough to take the bait and not checking the facts first.




"“People with glass houses shouldn’t throw stones." -- Neil Lennon

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