Rangers v Hibs

[Nicho87]

Another season, another time for transition.

[1875Hibees]

Which is the way to try and get a result out of this Rangers side at Ibrox. We go out and try and play against them we get slaughtered. They are a better side than us. This isn’t a Caixinha or Warbiola team ffs.

We did ok. Matched them first half but couldn’t keep up in the second.
I get that. They are a very decent team now. But this sitting back snorefest garbage. Rarely ever works. Like almost never. Lennons teams had a go at Ibrox and at Celtic Park and got much better results. I would much rather watch a game where we have a go. If we're set up properly, there's no reason why we cant pose an attacking threat aswell as being solid defensively. Today we never had a thought to try and go forward. Seems like the Jack Ross way though sadly.

[18Craig75]

Much better than the previous 2 games.

The schedule clearly taking its toll on the players. Everyone ran themselves in to the ground. Jackson going off didn’t help us.

Only disappointment was giving away the foul that led to the goal before half time.

[500miles]

We played the right system for Ibrox, but it demands that your judgement is spot on for 90 minutes. A couple of lapses saw us severely punished, but I saw enough to suggest that we'll finish top 6 comfortably. Docherty and, dare I say Kamberi would have offered a powerful outball that we were missing in the second half tonight.

[cabbageandribs1875]

1-0

1-1

2-1

When were we in the lead?


before they rqualised 😉

[h1bs4life]

The longer the 1st half went on the more restless the Hun hoards were getting. If Hanlon for once actually does what an experienced centre half would do and doesn't give a way a needless foul and we see the half out 1-0 up. Huns get booed of the park and our tails are up instead stupid foul given away 1-1 and everything reversed. Jack Ross better get the defence sorted out or he will go the way the vast majority of managers have gone the last 10 years. Like him as a manager and sure he will sort it out come the summer.

[EVENTUALLY]

Agreed. Killie beating Hearts tonight really wasnt a great result for us.

We can take care of ourselves.

That result from Gorgie tonight was absolutely joyful. Joyful I tell you.

[supermcginn]

It was in my house.

And mine.

[SquashedFrogg]

Correct i think the summer could be one where we see some decent signings coming into our club.

Maybe just me but already it seems like there's a plan with Ross. A clear picture.

Reminds me of Lennon in many ways.. Bold in team selections. PH would never play Whitts in CM. Never play McGinn, Docherty, McNulty 24 hours after signing.

Playing Jackson who is clearly a decent very defender. Even playing James in our win against Hamilton.

Yes we lost tonight. And yes, there's faults.

But I'm really positive now. Looking forward to next season already. All we need now is better pies!

[Sir David Gray]

I'm not sure a 6-1 defeat should be used as a yardstick for how far we've progressed to be honest. That game was just ridiculous to lose 4 goals in the last 15 minutes.

[SquashedFrogg]

The longer the 1st half went on the more restless the Hun hoards were getting. If Hanlon for once actually does what an experienced centre half would do and doesn't give a way a needless foul and we see the half out 1-0 up. Huns get booed of the park and our tails are up instead stupid foul given away 1-1 and everything reversed. Jack Ross better get the defence sorted out or he will go the way the vast majority of managers have gone the last 10 years. Like him as a manager and sure he will sort it out come the summer.

Hanlon isn't the problem. He's also 1 goal away from equalling Flo's total.

[SquashedFrogg]

I'm not sure a 6-1 defeat should be used as a yardstick for how far we've progressed to be honest. That game was just ridiculous to lose 4 goals in the last 15 minutes.

It was the last game we played there so can only be a yardstick? How else can you measure?

[Heisenberg]

I get that. They are a very decent team now. But this sitting back snorefest garbage. Rarely ever works. Like almost never. Lennons teams had a go at Ibrox and at Celtic Park and got much better results. I would much rather watch a game where we have a go. If we're set up properly, there's no reason why we cant pose an attacking threat aswell as being solid defensively. Today we never had a thought to try and go forward. Seems like the Jack Ross way though sadly.

Rangers weren’t as good as they are now when Lennon was going there and having a go. We also had McGinn, McGeouch etc in our side which kind of helped a bit. I don’t see any team apart from Celtc setting up to have a go at Rangers at Ibrox. In an ideal world we have a squad good enough to go right up against them but it’s not the case anymore sadly. We’ve gone backwards and they’ve improved.

[SquashedFrogg]

I get that. They are a very decent team now. But this sitting back snorefest garbage. Rarely ever works. Like almost never. Lennons teams had a go at Ibrox and at Celtic Park and got much better results. I would much rather watch a game where we have a go. If we're set up properly, there's no reason why we cant pose an attacking threat aswell as being solid defensively. Today we never had a thought to try and go forward. Seems like the Jack Ross way though sadly.

You sound like a great football manager. How would you teach Jack Ross to be better?

Genuine question.

[Sir David Gray]

Was he offside ?


Looked off side to me? Shame as we’ve done really well tonight.


I wondered the same thing.

Definitely not offside, McGregor's playing him on, when the ball is headed on from the initial ball forward.

[1875Hibees]

You sound like a great football manager. How would you teach Jack Ross to be better?
ffs I take it you are one of these dafties that think everything the club does is perfect and Hibs managers and players can do no wrong, and should never be criticised. And if you read my post without thinking of a smartarse reply you would see my opinion on how I think we should be trying to play. Certainly not how we did tonight. Do you think because he is a football manager they get everything right?

[MartinfaePorty]

Certainly weren't murder not great but neither were they two awful goals to lose. Rocky looks pretty poor to me kicking is very poor and seems to make a meal out of not difficult saves. Would put Bogdan in imo.Yeah, probably harsh. Defended well for the most part. Certainly more competitive than the last 2 match ups.

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[darwenhibby]

I thought the difference between the teams was that the Huns retained the ball better
We resorted to lumping the ball out of defence
In the end a knock back in and a fortunate flick lands into the path of Hagi
If the midfielders could have made a few short passes found an opening
The defence would not have been under consistent pressure
It’s what we do against the Ross County killie and Livi that will determine Hibs season and top 6

[Speedway]

You’re having a laugh surely?

2-1 away to rangers at Ibrox?

Have a day off

EVERY defeat is a poor result.

[SquashedFrogg]

ffs I take it you are one of these dafties that think everything the club does is perfect and Hibs managers and players can do no wrong, and should never be criticised. And if you read my post without thinking of a smartarse reply you would see my opinion on how I think we should be trying to play. Certainly not how we did tonight. Do you think because he is a football manager they get everything right?

Lost for words. Read your last post again.

You said it was 'sadly the Jack Ross way". If it helps, let's keep this really simple. What is 'his way'?

[Hibeesmad]

Positive to take from tonight is that Aberdeen, Motherwell and Livi also lost. Would have been great to have closed the gap but at least we haven't drifted further away.

And Hearts losing is always good.

[1875Hibees]

Lost for words. Read your last post again.

You said it was 'sadly the Jack Ross way". If it helps, let's keep this really simple. What is his way?
Yeah I did say that. That isnt what my post to you was referring to. You asked me what Jack Ross should change and I mentioned that in my previous posts. If you actually asked me normally without being a smartarse I would have just answered. His way atm is boring negative football and has been since he joined Sunderland. He was hated by Sunderland fans for playing garbage, boring, defensive football and he seems to be doing the same with us for a lot of games. We get a lead and try and soak up pressure instead of going for more. We treat teams like Motherwell and Aberdeen like they are Real and Barca. Parkinson could barely win a game for about his first 10-15 with Sunderland and most Sunderland fans still preferred him to Jack Ross. Hope he gets better but all I wanted when Hecky left was a manager who got his team playing good football and to make us enjoyable to watch. Im not seeing that so far with Jack Ross and I dont think he will change sadly.

[Green Cabbage 7]

Can anyone tell me if that Hagi was offside? I thought he was when the header came back in, but not sure.

[Speedway]

Yeah I did say that. That isnt what my post to you was referring to. You asked me what Jack Ross should change and I mentioned that in my previous posts. If you actually asked me normally without being a smartarse I would have just answered. His way atm is boring negative football and has been since he joined Sunderland. He was hated by Sunderland fans for playing garbage, boring, defensive football and he seems to be doing the same with us for a lot of games. We get a lead and try and soak up pressure instead of going for more. We treat teams like Motherwell and Aberdeen like they are Real and Barca. Parkinson could barely win a game for about his first 10-15 with Sunderland and most Sunderland fans still preferred him to Jack Ross. Hope he gets better but all I wanted when Hecky left was a manager who got his team playing good football and to make us enjoyable to watch. Im not seeing that so far with Jack Ross and I dont think he will change sadly.

It’s interesting that Butcher, Stubbs, Lennon, Bottom and now Ross have all been accused on here of playing ‘boring, negative football’

So have we ever had an exciting. Attacking football manager and if so, who was it?

[Sir David Gray]

Can anyone tell me if that Hagi was offside? I thought he was when the header came back in, but not sure.

Definitely not offside, McGregor is playing him onside when the ball's headed onto him.

[1875Hibees]

It’s interesting that Butcher, Stubbs, Lennon, Bottom and now Ross have all been accused on here of playing ‘boring, negative football’

So have we ever had an exciting. Attacking football manager and if so, who was it?
Not by me. John Collins, Mowbray, Stubbs and Lennon teams were normally enjoyable to watch for me.

[Speedway]

Not by me. John Collins, Mowbray, Stubbs and Lennon teams were normally enjoyable to watch for me.

Maybe it’s just boring, negative fans then.

[1875Hibees]

Maybe it’s just boring, negative fans then.
What do you mean?

[SquashedFrogg]

Yeah I did say that. That isnt what my post to you was referring to. You asked me what Jack Ross should change and I mentioned that in my previous posts. If you actually asked me normally without being a smartarse I would have just answered. His way atm is boring negative football and has been since he joined Sunderland. He was hated by Sunderland fans for playing garbage, boring, defensive football and he seems to be doing the same with us for a lot of games. We get a lead and try and soak up pressure instead of going for more. We treat teams like Motherwell and Aberdeen like they are Real and Barca. Parkinson could barely win a game for about his first 10-15 with Sunderland and most Sunderland fans still preferred him to Jack Ross. Hope he gets better but all I wanted when Hecky left was a manager who got his team playing good football and to make us enjoyable to watch. Im not seeing that so far with Jack Ross and I dont think he will change sadly.

No. That's completely wrong. You're post wasn't to me.

You stated tonights performance was the Jack Ross way 'sadly'.

I merely picked you up on that and asked what you meant?

FWIW I'm still not sure what you're on about. Or what his way actually is in your view.

Best leave this and accept we have different views on our manager. Personally I think he'll do fine for us based on what I've witnessed so far.

[Heisenberg]

Yeah I did say that. That isnt what my post to you was referring to. You asked me what Jack Ross should change and I mentioned that in my previous posts. If you actually asked me normally without being a smartarse I would have just answered. His way atm is boring negative football and has been since he joined Sunderland. He was hated by Sunderland fans for playing garbage, boring, defensive football and he seems to be doing the same with us for a lot of games. We get a lead and try and soak up pressure instead of going for more. We treat teams like Motherwell and Aberdeen like they are Real and Barca. Parkinson could barely win a game for about his first 10-15 with Sunderland and most Sunderland fans still preferred him to Jack Ross. Hope he gets better but all I wanted when Hecky left was a manager who got his team playing good football and to make us enjoyable to watch. Im not seeing that so far with Jack Ross and I dont think he will change sadly.

We treat teams like Motherwell and Aberdeen like Real and Barca? Bit of a weird take. We have taken 6 points off of Motherwell and Aberdeen at home since Ross came in and got a point away at Fir Park. Not a bad record at all. Performance away at Motherwell wasn’t good but we’ve had that in us all season.

We’ve got a poor squad and it’ll take a good summer to sort it out. Bit harsh to be sticking the boot into Ross just now, imo. Not many managers could have made this squad of players an attractive attacking side in the space of a few months.

[SMAXXA]

Definitely not offside, McGregor is playing him onside when the ball's headed onto him.

For me Jackson stays on we don’t lose the game just our luck
Losing a ch at that stage of the game

[1875Hibees]

No. That's completely wrong. You're post wasn't to me.

You stated tonights performance was the Jack Ross way 'sadly'.

I merely picked you up on that and asked what you meant?

FWIW I'm still not sure what you're on about. Or what his way actually is.

Best leave this and accept we have different views in our manager.
No. My post wasnt to you, but if your going to make a comment to me you could have looked back a what I had already said. I have already said what I think his football is. Dunno how you dont know what im on about lol But ok. I agree with your last point though.

[SquashedFrogg]

No. My post wasnt to you, but if your going to make a comment to me you could have looked back a what I had already said. I have already said what I think his football is. Dunno how you dont know what im on about lol But ok. I agree with your last point though.

Mate. All cool 👍 We're all Hibby's who want the same thing in the end.

Onwards and upwards!

[SquashedFrogg]

For me Jackson stays on we don’t lose the game just our luck
Losing a ch at that stage of the game

Good shout. He's turning into an important player.

[1875Hibees]

We treat teams like Motherwell and Aberdeen like Real and Barca? Bit of a weird take. We have taken 6 points off of Motherwell and Aberdeen at home since Ross came in and got a point away at Fir Park. Not a bad record at all. Performance away at Motherwell wasn’t good but we’ve had that in us all season.

We’ve got a poor squad and it’ll take a good summer to sort it out. Bit harsh to be sticking the boot into Ross just now, imo. Not many managers could have made this squad of players an attractive attacking side in the space of a few months.
By that I just mean, again, playing overly defensively against teams like that. Obviously a bit of an exaggeration lol Maybe Im being a bit harsh just now, and I obviously really hope he turns it round. Im just a bit worried as he seems to have his teams playing some tedious football for a while. You just need to look at the Sunderland fans opinions. Like I said though, I obviously hope he sorts it out but I just dont think he will and we will end up being back in another bad position next year looking for another new manager.

[1875Hibees]

Mate. All cool 👍 We're all Hibby's who want the same thing in the end.

Onwards and upwards!
Yeah. Exactly mate! Tensions are always high after a Hibs loss lol

[AlbertK86]

For me Jackson stays on we don’t lose the game just our luck
Losing a ch at that stage of the game

Agree ... other issue how were we so open on left for Haji goal ? Where was left back and left CH ?


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[bingo70]

Yeah. Exactly mate! Tensions are always high after a Hibs loss lol

You’re getting a lot of stick and maybe you were a bit too blunt about Ross but I know what you mean.

I think we are a boring side just now, Doidge has an incredible scoring record but he can’t really run and he’s certainly not going to run away from defenders so we’ve not got much choice but to just lump it into him. Boyle is the only one in that team that has any real pace and I think our team reflects that.

On the last day of the transfer window I was pretty happy with the business we had done but in hindsight I really wish we’d managed to sign a quick left winger. Somebody earlier asked what you think Ross should have done differently and to me that would be my answer, we should have signed more pace in January. If we’d done that we could have defended but been more of a threat on the break.

I’m not really bothered about tonight, I don’t think we’re a good side this season so going to places like Ibrox and Parkhead is a bit of a non event, we did better than I was expecting before the game so happy enough to move on.

Going into next season though I would like us to get back to how we were going to Glasgow when we had midfielders who would be brave enough to keep the ball and have enough pace up front to be a threat in attack. Sadly we’re not there just now though imo.