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cabbageandribs1875
25-01-2020, 03:09 PM
yellow for newell now

Brightside
25-01-2020, 03:09 PM
We will end up down to 10 soon and none of them are bookings.

Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:09 PM
Kamberi having a stinker tbh. Needs to pass the bloody ball.

HibbySpurs
25-01-2020, 03:09 PM
With a fraction of our budget...

This, perhaps where we would be if our board/owner showed a shred of ambition instead of the wall of silence we’re being met with.

Fraction of our budget/ fraction of our fan base and we’re happy to “they’re 3rd in the league” without questioning why that is?

bingo70
25-01-2020, 03:09 PM
This ref loves a card.

Sounds that way.

I’m relying on Twitter for updates and it seems to be just card after card.

Is it a really dirty game?

Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:10 PM
We will end up down to 10 soon and none of them are bookings.

The Doidge foul was 100% a booking. Omeonga has also made plenty of fouls so hard to argue with that too.

Sir David Gray
25-01-2020, 03:10 PM
Two huge chances for us.

cabbageandribs1875
25-01-2020, 03:10 PM
James should stick to singing

Heisenberg
25-01-2020, 03:10 PM
Hit the post

Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:10 PM
Horgan stings the palms of Gillespie. Kamberi hits the inside of the post with a diving header. Should be 0-1.

Callum_62
25-01-2020, 03:11 PM
Absolute sitter from flo

I'm. Sure he was offside so. Didn't care but flag never went up

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Brightside
25-01-2020, 03:11 PM
Getting very little up either wing tbh. All very scrappy.

SHODAN
25-01-2020, 03:11 PM
That's really unfortunate.

hibsbollah
25-01-2020, 03:11 PM
Spawny ****s

Since452
25-01-2020, 03:11 PM
Come on Hibs

Brightside
25-01-2020, 03:11 PM
Post!!

Coco Bryce
25-01-2020, 03:11 PM
Sakes man.

Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:11 PM
Great from Horgan to create that chance.

Stuart93
25-01-2020, 03:12 PM
Chances can be created!

Mon hibs!

Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:12 PM
Two obvious fouls on Hibs players not given. Hibs with their tails up now.

Callum_62
25-01-2020, 03:12 PM
Great from Horgan to create that chance.Newell too started it with the quick press

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Weegreenman
25-01-2020, 03:12 PM
Nonsense.

We just know that results aren’t necessarily improved by shouting that every disappointment is an unacceptable disgrace.

Your exactly what I’m talking about. Happy to sit mid table and defend our snowflake players who aren’t showing the right attitude.

Coco Bryce
25-01-2020, 03:12 PM
Hibs upping the tempo now.

we are hibs
25-01-2020, 03:13 PM
Coming onto a game a wee bit now. Bit of tempo about us at least

Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:13 PM
Good challenge from James to block Scott, corner Well.

Smartie
25-01-2020, 03:14 PM
This has been better since half time.

MacGruber
25-01-2020, 03:14 PM
Omeonga for Hallberg, lets finish with 11 men. Some game management from Ross required

Hibby Kay-Yay
25-01-2020, 03:14 PM
Your exactly what I’m talking about. Happy to sit mid table and defend our snowflake players who aren’t showing the right attitude.

:rolleyes:

Since452
25-01-2020, 03:14 PM
Good challenge from James to block Scott, corner Well.

Will give him a boost

hibsbollah
25-01-2020, 03:15 PM
James seems to have found his feet now.

Heisenberg
25-01-2020, 03:15 PM
Bloody snowflakes and millennials ruining this football club.

Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:15 PM
James challenges Scott well again. Twice more than the whole of the first half.

Hermit Crab
25-01-2020, 03:16 PM
Hamilton 2-2.

Springbank
25-01-2020, 03:16 PM
Hamilton back level at 2-2

Bangkok Hibby
25-01-2020, 03:16 PM
Hamilton equalise...good for us, bad for Hearts

Jack Hackett
25-01-2020, 03:16 PM
Your exactly what I’m talking about. Happy to sit mid table and defend our snowflake players who aren’t showing the right attitude.

Maybe a wee bit of booing to get them in the right frame of mind?

makaveli1875
25-01-2020, 03:17 PM
Mon the accies

Ozyhibby
25-01-2020, 03:17 PM
Omeonga having to do James job for him half the time. He needs hooked.


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Smartie
25-01-2020, 03:17 PM
James’ style of play where he stands off and stands off has your heart in your mouth constantly, but this half he’s managed the odd tackle and the odd timely interception.

Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:18 PM
Marciano saves after absolutely sclaffing a kick out. Pigeon tries his best to block the shot.

Hibby70
25-01-2020, 03:18 PM
The pigeon is motm for me

madhatter
25-01-2020, 03:19 PM
Get Kamberi off.

Moulin Yarns
25-01-2020, 03:19 PM
Marciano saves after absolutely sclaffing a kick out. Pigeon tries his best to block the shot.

Chested it down? :wink:

Brightside
25-01-2020, 03:19 PM
Rocky almost chucks another one.

Coco Bryce
25-01-2020, 03:19 PM
The pigeon is motm for me

Nearly cost us a goal.

hibsbollah
25-01-2020, 03:19 PM
Omeonga having to do James job for him half the time. He needs hooked.


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:rolleyes: he's just put in two perfectly good challenges. And omeonga is doubling up. Tactical.

Since452
25-01-2020, 03:20 PM
Can almost guarantee at least one mistake a game from Marciano

cabbageandribs1875
25-01-2020, 03:20 PM
that thread hanging from paul hanlons captains armband is setting off my OCD

Bangkok Hibby
25-01-2020, 03:20 PM
**** off Livvy

Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:20 PM
Seedorf on

Hermit Crab
25-01-2020, 03:20 PM
2-3 livingston.

Callum_62
25-01-2020, 03:20 PM
Seedorf on for well

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Smartie
25-01-2020, 03:20 PM
Scott has swapped wings.

Let’s see how he gets on against Lewis...

Brightside
25-01-2020, 03:20 PM
Tbf rocky has done much better with cross balls in this game.

Hermit Crab
25-01-2020, 03:21 PM
2-0 Celtic

Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:21 PM
Scott has swapped wings.

Let’s see how he gets in against Lewis...

Well probably targeting James with their substitute. James wins his first battle with him and wins a free kick.

green day
25-01-2020, 03:22 PM
Couple of chances for Hibs according to the guys on here - Craigan update......no mention, says Motherwell have just had 2 chances.

How do these people get to commentate on their pet clubs?????

we are hibs
25-01-2020, 03:22 PM
Allan on for Flo

Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:22 PM
Flo off, Allan on.

Callum_62
25-01-2020, 03:22 PM
Kamberi off for Allan

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Moulin Yarns
25-01-2020, 03:22 PM
2-3 livingston.

Was it not decided there would be no updates from other games as there is a separate thread for it? asking for a friend :greengrin

erin go bragh
25-01-2020, 03:22 PM
Maybe time for Allan to come on and win the game for us .

SOLGirl
25-01-2020, 03:22 PM
that thread hanging from paul hanlons captains armband is setting off my OCD

It must be the same one that SDG was wearing on Wed. Kept catching my eye too!

hibsbollah
25-01-2020, 03:23 PM
Another good challenge by James.

Hermit Crab
25-01-2020, 03:23 PM
2-4 livingston

Bangkok Hibby
25-01-2020, 03:23 PM
Was it not decided there would be no updates from other games as there is a separate thread for it? asking for a friend :greengrin


You might be right...I don't see a problem really but maybe an admin can come on and remind us.

Since452
25-01-2020, 03:23 PM
Another good challenge by James.

Been good this half

Hermit Crab
25-01-2020, 03:24 PM
3-0 celtic.

Brightside
25-01-2020, 03:24 PM
Boyle not had a1.5m game today.

cabbageandribs1875
25-01-2020, 03:26 PM
It must be the same one that SDG was wearing on Wed. Kept catching my eye too!

😁😁

Coco Bryce
25-01-2020, 03:26 PM
Boyle not had a1.5m game today.

Hopefully will cool interest after this game.

Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:27 PM
Great break from Horgan and Allan, Horgan just blasts it over from the edge of the box though.

Coco Bryce
25-01-2020, 03:27 PM
Good move there. Horgan just over.

Keith_M
25-01-2020, 03:27 PM
Crap game, crap atmosphere.

A pigeon is the most entertaing thing today.

cabbageandribs1875
25-01-2020, 03:28 PM
2-4 livingston

but livi have better players than us, or...nah i better not say 😁

Hermit Crab
25-01-2020, 03:28 PM
Great break from Horgan and Allan, Horgan just blasts it over from the edge of the box though.


He's good at that.

Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:28 PM
Allan plays a perfect pass to Martin Boyle who makes a complete hash of his touch and it's out for a throw in. Ahhh.

Brightside
25-01-2020, 03:28 PM
Crap game, crap atmosphere.

A pigeon is the most entertaing thing today.

2nd half has been a decent e2e game.

Springbank
25-01-2020, 03:29 PM
but livi have better players than us, or...nah i better not say 😁

Joking apart their right back was best player on the park v us in December.
And they have a good DM...

Stuart93
25-01-2020, 03:29 PM
Joking apart their right back was best player on the park v us in December.
And they have a good DM...

And a good attacker in Dykes

Stuart93
25-01-2020, 03:30 PM
Seems we’ve came out a bit this half and created some chances

Hopefully we can nick something, 3 points would be massive

Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:30 PM
Pretty poor from Hanlon, corner Well.

Ronniekirk
25-01-2020, 03:30 PM
Allan plays a perfect pass to Martin Boyle who makes a complete hash of his touch and it's out for a throw in. Ahhh.

Just putting g Celtic off making a bid


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Hibeesmad
25-01-2020, 03:32 PM
Game is on BBC Alba at 6pm.

Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:32 PM
Scott not getting much from Stevenson thus far.

Smartie
25-01-2020, 03:33 PM
Allan plays a perfect pass to Martin Boyle who makes a complete hash of his touch and it's out for a throw in. Ahhh.

I hate that Ronaldo change of direction thing that Kamberi does but making an erse of it - like Boyle there.

Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:33 PM
Allan fouled after a good spin. Quick free kick has too much for Boyle.

Moulin Yarns
25-01-2020, 03:33 PM
He's good at that.

Just a wee reminder :greengrin

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/football/daryl-horgan-hibernian-hearts-197952

Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:34 PM
Good tackle from James in the box, risky but well timed.

Hibeesmad
25-01-2020, 03:34 PM
1,208 hibees at the game

Keith_M
25-01-2020, 03:34 PM
1,208 Hibbies here.

Joe6-2
25-01-2020, 03:35 PM
1,208 Hibbies here.

👍

hibsbollah
25-01-2020, 03:35 PM
Much better 2nd.

Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:35 PM
Horgan off, Gullan on.

Callum_62
25-01-2020, 03:35 PM
Horgan off for Gullan

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Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:37 PM
James makes a good run but his cross finds a Well man.

Heisenberg
25-01-2020, 03:37 PM
Motherwell hit the bar

Ronniekirk
25-01-2020, 03:37 PM
Hammer to strike and make his Mark


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Callum_62
25-01-2020, 03:37 PM
Well hit bar as omeonga robbed

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Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:37 PM
Lucky there. Omeonga caught out.

Hermit Crab
25-01-2020, 03:37 PM
2-1 St Johnstone

Callum_62
25-01-2020, 03:37 PM
Good save Marciano it was actually

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Coco Bryce
25-01-2020, 03:38 PM
What a save from Rocky.

Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:38 PM
Campbell has run things for Well today.

Springbank
25-01-2020, 03:38 PM
Spoony

Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:39 PM
Scott off. Ndjoli on.

Callum_62
25-01-2020, 03:39 PM
James. Scott. Off for ndjoli

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Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:40 PM
Two good tackles from Omeonga. Ball with Marciano.

Keith_M
25-01-2020, 03:40 PM
We've upped the tempo, but Well still look more dangerous.

One point wouldn't be a disaster.

Onceinawhile
25-01-2020, 03:40 PM
Killie sinking like a stone at this rate.

Since452
25-01-2020, 03:41 PM
Killie sinking like a stone at this rate.

They're getting sucked right into a playoff scrap

Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:41 PM
Gullan hammers it across the face of goal but it's cleared. Good play from James and Omeonga to find him.

Ronniekirk
25-01-2020, 03:42 PM
We've upped the tempo, but Well still look more dangerous.

One point wouldn't be a disaster.

Best we could expect imo given circumstances Will take it if that’s how it pans out


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Callum_62
25-01-2020, 03:43 PM
Omeongas been very effective this half

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Since452
25-01-2020, 03:43 PM
Game of two halves again.

Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:44 PM
Omeongas been very effective this half

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Our best player this half.

Onceinawhile
25-01-2020, 03:45 PM
Didn't realise St Johnstone had two games in hand on us. Only 6 points behind too.

Springbank
25-01-2020, 03:45 PM
Didn't realise St Johnstone had two games in hand on us. Only 6 points behind too.

Think one is v Celtic the other v Rangers

Scorrie
25-01-2020, 03:46 PM
Killie sinking like a stone at this rate.

Daft decision to sack their manager really. Had them around 4th didn’t he?

Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:46 PM
Corner Hibs. Good chance for us to attack there but poor ball from Newell after winning it well off Gallagher.

hibbyfraelibby
25-01-2020, 03:46 PM
Didn't realise St Johnstone had two games in hand on us. Only 6 points behind too.
Are their games not against Celtic and the Thes?

Smartie
25-01-2020, 03:46 PM
Omeongas been very effective this half

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He’s a cracking wee player who has had another good game for us.

Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:46 PM
James booked

BegbieHSC
25-01-2020, 03:46 PM
Didn't realise St Johnstone had two games in hand on us. Only 6 points behind too.

Against the Huns and Celtc. Wouldn’t be too worried.

Decent turnaround for them. The gunts must be worried.

Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:48 PM
Clear bookable challenge from Polworth on Allan doesn't even win a foul.

GreenCastle
25-01-2020, 03:48 PM
Think relegation will be between Hearts, Hamilton and St Mirren.

Since452
25-01-2020, 03:50 PM
Think relegation will be between Hearts, Hamilton and St Mirren.

Looks like it. A win for St Mirren puts Hearts 8 from safety though

Hermit Crab
25-01-2020, 03:51 PM
Shankland again 1-1

Speedway
25-01-2020, 03:51 PM
Full time

Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:51 PM
0-0 ft.

Springbank
25-01-2020, 03:52 PM
Held on.

Hope the board dont see that as acceptable long run tho

Since452
25-01-2020, 03:52 PM
Decent point

nickwhibs
25-01-2020, 03:52 PM
Not great but we’ll take it. Decent point

Michael
25-01-2020, 03:52 PM
Can't complain - difficult place to go.

Coco Bryce
25-01-2020, 03:53 PM
Phew. Last 5 minutes were a bit edgy.

Joe6-2
25-01-2020, 03:53 PM
Held on.

Hope the board dont see that as acceptable long run tho

That was a question on here after the Hamilton game

Vault Boy
25-01-2020, 03:53 PM
Jack Ross not happy with the referee and making it known to him. Understandable tbh.

Hibeesmad
25-01-2020, 03:53 PM
Onto Tuesday now.

Heisenberg
25-01-2020, 03:53 PM
Clean sheet is good. Point is ok. Signings required.

heretoday
25-01-2020, 03:53 PM
Good result. Well done!

Stuart93
25-01-2020, 03:54 PM
Will definitely take the point and move on, glad we gave it more of go the 2nd half.

Stevie Reid
25-01-2020, 03:54 PM
Happy with the point.

Borderhibbie76
25-01-2020, 03:55 PM
Would have taken a point pre match...tough venue and good to keep a clean sheet too

cabbageandribs1875
25-01-2020, 03:55 PM
24 years since our last 0-0 with motherwell...jan 1996 at ER

tamig
25-01-2020, 03:55 PM
Held on.

Hope the board dont see that as acceptable long run tho

What do you mean by that? Are you suggesting today’s result could influence our transfer plans in the rest of the window? I doubt that would be the case.

Hibee Mac
25-01-2020, 03:56 PM
Take a point, we had the best chance of the game and probably should have nicked it.

Motherwell were tidy in possession but did little of note with it, I think we were comfortable enough defensively all right apart from James getting skinned every 5 mins.

Ref was atrocious, not consistent whatsoever

jacomo
25-01-2020, 03:56 PM
Not great but we’ll take it. Decent point


:agree:

Inability to start games well goes back to Lennon though. It’s a long term issue. Hope JR works out a way to sort it.

Hermit Crab
25-01-2020, 03:56 PM
Signings needed. Striker is a must.

Since452
25-01-2020, 03:56 PM
Would have taken a point pre match...tough venue and good to keep a clean sheet too

Was going to post the same. Clean sheet away at the 3rd best team isn't bad

GreenNWhiteArmy
25-01-2020, 03:57 PM
Sounds as though we could've played better. But take the point.

Suspect we'll be busy this coming week. Get a striker, CDM and a possible centre half and we can push on

Bangkok Hibby
25-01-2020, 03:58 PM
Sounded like James improved in 2nd half? Will we see a decent player as his fitness improves?

Hibbyradge
25-01-2020, 03:58 PM
Signings needed. Striker is a must.

We could have had Aguela in that game and he wouldn't have scored.

We created nothing for the forwards.

1 8 7 5
25-01-2020, 03:59 PM
well done Hibernian.
We move on.

lord bunberry
25-01-2020, 03:59 PM
Terrible first half, but better in the second half. Kamberi should’ve scored with his chance, great save from Rocky to touch their shot onto the bar.

J-C
25-01-2020, 03:59 PM
Sounded like James improved in 2nd half? Will we see a decent player as his fitness improves?

Wouldn't bet on it.

NORTHERNHIBBY
25-01-2020, 03:59 PM
Well Manager said before the game that he couldn't see it ending up as a nil nil draw.

we are hibs
25-01-2020, 03:59 PM
A good result but not a great performance. We clearly need signings to add something different.

calumhibee1
25-01-2020, 04:00 PM
Good result. Sounds like a crap performance.

Springbank
25-01-2020, 04:00 PM
What do you mean by that? Are you suggesting today’s result could influence our transfer plans in the rest of the window? I doubt that would be the case.

I hope you're right👍

I'm one of those (and been saying it all season) who reckons the Scottish cup is winnable for a non-OF team this season & next, as the gruesome twosome will become more & more & more obsessed with the league as 9 or 10 in a row loom. Even more if they meet in the Europa.
Weve got a home replay, and an amateur team between us and the quarters.
This is (imo) a golden chance to do something special.
But not with the current squad, and the window so far has had me pessimistic about the level of Ron Gordon's ambition. To put it politely.

H18S NX
25-01-2020, 04:01 PM
Would have taken a draw before the start so can't complain,plus a clean sheet,no to be sniffed at.

Silky
25-01-2020, 04:03 PM
Good result. Sounds like a crap performance.

It does. But then is that better than a crap result and a good performance?

GreenCastle
25-01-2020, 04:04 PM
Small positive being 6 point gap over 7th and better goal difference than 7th and 8th (so really 7 points).

But Livi winning = 2 points behind them and worse goal difference.

Can't see us finishing above 5th this season - will be 5th or 6th.

Sir David Gray
25-01-2020, 04:04 PM
Decent result although it probably ends any faint hopes we had of getting into Europe. Much improved in the second half, first half once again was dreadful.

Green Badger
25-01-2020, 04:07 PM
A clean sheet away to third in the league is decent, would have taken this before the game.

tamig
25-01-2020, 04:09 PM
I hope you're right👍

I'm one of those (and been saying it all season) who reckons the Scottish cup is winnable for a non-OF team this season & next, as the gruesome twosome will become more & more & more obsessed with the league as 9 or 10 in a row loom. Even more if they meet in the Europa.
Weve got a home replay, and an amateur team between us and the quarters.
This is (imo) a golden chance to do something special.
But not with the current squad, and the window so far has had me pessimistic about the level of Ron Gordon's ambition. To put it politely.
Lack of signings so far doesn’t indicate a lack of ambition. Various deals are being worked on and I’m certain we will see at least two new arrivals during the week. In saying that I don’t expect RG to be throwing silly money about hertz style.

jingler1954
25-01-2020, 04:09 PM
Didn't realise St Johnstone had two games in hand on us. Only 6 points behind too.

their games are Celtic and Therangers.

Blaster
25-01-2020, 04:09 PM
Small positive being 6 point gap over 7th and better goal difference than 7th and 8th (so really 7 points).

But Livi winning = 2 points behind them and worse goal difference.

Can't see us finishing above 5th this season - will be 5th or 6th.

I agree. Not great but when you lose a manager through the season and have to work with the majority of his signings it’s not totally unexpected. 3 good signings next week to consolidate for this season and a much better window needed in the summer 👍

Hibeesmad
25-01-2020, 04:09 PM
Robinson highly praising Marciano. We are very lucky to have him.

Since452
25-01-2020, 04:13 PM
The good thing about that point is that it puts us two wins ahead of 7th so bit of a gap starting to open there

hhibs
25-01-2020, 04:13 PM
A poor performance,again.

Team needs refreshed and JR needs to sort out a system.

KingPat4
25-01-2020, 04:14 PM
Happy with a point, but we must see off Dundee United next week or the season is dead.

Centre Hawf
25-01-2020, 04:14 PM
Would have taken a point before kick off tbh and i think either side could have nicked it. Played fairly well without being outstanding in any department.

James looks bad/unfit. Was beaten every time the ball came down his side. Needs to improve sharp or ship him out.

Newell looks a lot better as a central midfielder as opposed to some winger.

Horgan still needs to learn how to cross because everything else is there.

Omeonga looked a bit slack towards the end but i think overall he was good and the 90 minutes will have helped him.

Rocky outstanding again.

hhibs
25-01-2020, 04:15 PM
Take a point, we had the best chance of the game and probably should have nicked it.

Motherwell were tidy in possession but did little of note with it, I think we were comfortable enough defensively all right apart from James getting skinned every 5 mins.

Ref was atrocious, not consistent whatsoever


Ref was a total dick.

660
25-01-2020, 04:18 PM
0-0. “Mauled” lol

Hibby Kay-Yay
25-01-2020, 04:19 PM
Would have taken a point before kick off tbh and i think either side could have nicked it. Played fairly well without being outstanding in any department.

James looks bad/unfit. Was beaten every time the ball came down his side. Needs to improve sharp or ship him out.

Newell looks a lot better as a central midfielder as opposed to some winger.

Horgan still needs to learn how to cross because everything else is there.

Omeonga looked a bit slack towards the end but i think overall he was good and the 90 minutes will have helped him.

Rocky outstanding again.

No he wasn’t.

givescotlandfreedom
25-01-2020, 04:19 PM
Robinson highly praising Marciano. We are very lucky to have him.

I've been critical of him at times recently but that save in the second half was top drawer.

Since452
25-01-2020, 04:20 PM
I actually thought Tom James recovered very well second half and was good

hfc rd
25-01-2020, 04:20 PM
Would have taken a point before kick off, so I’m very satisfied with that result against a very good Motherwell team.

givescotlandfreedom
25-01-2020, 04:22 PM
Ref was a total dick.

He was. Couldn't get his card out quick enough when it was, couldn't get his card out quick enough when it was a foul against Hibs.

PeeJay
25-01-2020, 04:23 PM
Our 1st half was awful, second was slightly better - Motherwell will be disappointed not to have taken all 3 points Marciano had some really good stops. Too many poor performances all round and I still don't see any evidence of a tactical plan for the team.
Still, a point is certainly better than the nothing we deserved for such an utterly abysmal performance. United may well fancy their chances in the replay on this showing ...

B.H.F.C
25-01-2020, 04:24 PM
Not a terrible point but a terrible game.

Kamberi has to score with his chance.

G B Young
25-01-2020, 04:24 PM
Agree with the general consensus that I'd have taken that before the game. It's a decent point on paper and completes a pretty decent week. Important we hit the ground running in the cup replay tho and put that one to bed.

Shame Accies didn't take something off Livi (who by the way deserve a lot of credit for the way they punch way above their weight in this division).

Oh, and 'mon the huns tomorrow (the only fixture where I feel comfortable saying that).

Since452
25-01-2020, 04:26 PM
A win, defeat and draw against Motherwell then

B.H.F.C
25-01-2020, 04:26 PM
Our 1st half was awful, second was slightly better - Motherwell will be disappointed not to have taken all 3 points Marciano had some really good stops. Too many poor performances all round and I still don't see any evidence of a tactical plan for the team.
Still, a point is certainly better than the nothing we deserved for such an utterly abysmal performance. United may well fancy their chances in the replay on this showing ...

Didn’t think they were much better and can’t remember Marciano making too many saves, apart from the one he tipped on to the bar which was a really good save.

G B Young
25-01-2020, 04:30 PM
Didn't realise St Johnstone had two games in hand on us. Only 6 points behind too.

Hard to imagine they'll win them both though. They've been largely poor this season though credit to Wright for hauling them up the table after a terrible start.

I think it's reasonable to suggest that the teams in the top six as it stands will be there come the split.

The 90+2
25-01-2020, 04:43 PM
Will definitely take the point and move on, glad we gave it more of go the 2nd half.

This.

Brightside
25-01-2020, 04:43 PM
Would have taken a point before kick off tbh and i think either side could have nicked it. Played fairly well without being outstanding in any department.

James looks bad/unfit. Was beaten every time the ball came down his side. Needs to improve sharp or ship him out.

Newell looks a lot better as a central midfielder as opposed to some winger.

Horgan still needs to learn how to cross because everything else is there.

Omeonga looked a bit slack towards the end but i think overall he was good and the 90 minutes will have helped him.

Rocky outstanding again.

James has a decent 2nd half.

oneone73
25-01-2020, 04:44 PM
James has a decent 2nd half.

Thought all the defence played well. Jackson was excellent.

Hibbyradge
25-01-2020, 04:47 PM
Thought all the defence played well. Jackson was excellent.

I noticed Jackson organising the other defenders. Good leadership there and exactly what we need.

Ozyhibby
25-01-2020, 05:04 PM
Jackson was excellent today. Whole team was better in the 2nd half especially when Allan came on because it stopped Motherwell controlling the midfield. For a 0-0 it was a cracking game of football.


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J-C
25-01-2020, 05:04 PM
How did Gullan get on?

Pedantic_Hibee
25-01-2020, 05:07 PM
How did Gullan get on?

The electronic board was raised aloft by the fourth official indicating his squad number and indeed the squad number of the player he replaced.

Brightside
25-01-2020, 05:08 PM
Jackson was excellent today. Whole team was better in the 2nd half especially when Allan came on because it stopped Motherwell controlling the midfield. For a 0-0 it was a cracking game of football.


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I’m liking him and Hanlon tbh. Like others he just needs games.

HoboHarry
25-01-2020, 05:10 PM
The electronic board was raised aloft by the fourth official indicating his squad number and indeed the squad number of the player he replaced.
:faf: Your avatar was well chosen :greengrin

Hibbyradge
25-01-2020, 05:14 PM
The electronic board was raised aloft by the fourth official indicating his squad number and indeed the squad number of the player he replaced.

:tee hee:

hfc rd
25-01-2020, 05:19 PM
Hard to imagine they'll win them both though. They've been largely poor this season though credit to Wright for hauling them up the table after a terrible start.

I think it's reasonable to suggest that the teams in the top six as it stands will be there come the split.


Both of St Johnstone’s games in hand are against Celtic & Rangers.

SMAXXA
25-01-2020, 05:20 PM
Jackson was excellent today. Whole team was better in the 2nd half especially when Allan came on because it stopped Motherwell controlling the midfield. For a 0-0 it was a cracking game of football.


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Was really surprised he wasn’t getting more of a crack I’ve not seen him having a bad game and like the big guy.

People also need to remember Tom James hasn’t played a lot so naturally was going to be rusty just like Gray has been since he came in.

Good point we move on to the next

MacGruber
25-01-2020, 05:22 PM
Happy enough with the point.

Looks like Jackson and Newell are both going to be assets along with Doidge so Heckingbottom's signings haven't set us back years as was previously muted. Also like Hallberg and Naismith

Was happy to see Tom James get a try under Ross though thought he was awful today. Slightly better second half but still very poor. Looks like he doesn't like a tackle.

Thought Omeonga was good. Will get better with games.

Kamberi needs to do more.

Win your home games take points away from home. A draw away to a good Motherwell team is good

greenlex
25-01-2020, 05:22 PM
No he wasn’t.

Correct a shaky first 15-20 mins but settled well after that.

brianmc
25-01-2020, 05:28 PM
Jackson was excellent today. Whole team was better in the 2nd half especially when Allan came on because it stopped Motherwell controlling the midfield. For a 0-0 it was a cracking game of football.


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A cracking game of football? 😂😂😂
For under 8's on a public park maybe - but for 2 professional teams it was brutal.

Smartie
25-01-2020, 05:29 PM
How did Gullan get on?

He did ok.

Not involved much but did well to beat his man and put a very dangerous ball over - a wee bit of luck and he’d have created the winning goal.

sean04
25-01-2020, 05:40 PM
I thought our midfield with Newell and Omeonga were very competitive. A lot more closing down and tackling. Will only get better with more minutes under there belts

Hiber-nation
25-01-2020, 05:45 PM
Omeonga makes a huge difference, he closes down so quickly compared to the likes of Hallberg. Recovered really well from a shaky start.

We looked really solid in central defence but Motherwell didn't really carry much of a threat. Really disappointing going forward though, Kamberi awful and Boyle disappointing.

Poor game.

BoomtownHibees
25-01-2020, 05:50 PM
Jackson was excellent today. Whole team was better in the 2nd half especially when Allan came on because it stopped Motherwell controlling the midfield. For a 0-0 it was a cracking game of football.


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Is this the first game you’ve ever seen? “A cracking game of football” 😂

Alfred E Newman
25-01-2020, 05:57 PM
No he wasn’t.

90% of the time he was.

Onion
25-01-2020, 05:57 PM
I thought our midfield with Newell and Omeonga were very competitive. A lot more closing down and tackling. Will only get better with more minutes under there belts

Omeonga was just trying too hard early on but unlucky to get a yellow after just 3 fouls. Ref was a head case. He reminds me a lot of McGeough and could form a good partnership with Allan once his form picks up. We just need someone with real dig, an enforcer beside them and we'll be fixed.

MWHIBBIES
25-01-2020, 06:12 PM
90% of the time he was.

No, he definitely wasn't. Beaten 2/3 times early, after that very solid.

Hiber-nation
25-01-2020, 06:15 PM
90% of the time he was.

Seriously?? He had a really poor first 20 mins or so but once we sorted ourselves out he was very good.

Shrekko
25-01-2020, 06:15 PM
No, he definitely wasn't. Beaten 2/3 times early, after that very solid.

It’s not always that men beat him it’s the amount of space he gives them to move forward in the the box by backing off as well.

To be fair- the last 25-30 mins of the game he did do a bit better but his defending is really poor.

wookie70
25-01-2020, 06:17 PM
Not the greatest spectacle but a good point away to a form team. James looked like he had forgot how to play football in the first half hour but came onto his game and was pretty decent in the second half. The other three defenders were all very good. Rocky had one great save and as usual his distribution was poor. First half Motherwell should have been a couple of goals up but they didn't create chances when in the danger area. Second half was much more even and we created the best chance with Flo hitting the post. Omeonga was harshly booked early on but he is just the type of player we have been crying out for. Did really well to dial it back and still disrupt them and win the ball back more than any other Hibs player. Flo was poor and so was Doidge but they never really had much service. Boyle looked like he had his boots on the wrong feet at times today and never really contributed both in attack or helping James particularly in that early spell. Delighted to see youth be given a chance and Jamie did well enough firing a great ball across the 6 yard box. We will play better at Fir Park and lose so take our point and get into the cup game with a clean sheet and some decent results if not performances behind us.

lord bunberry
25-01-2020, 06:20 PM
Is James left footed? He seemed to go with his left foot a lot.

jonny
25-01-2020, 06:26 PM
Not the greatest spectacle but a good point away to a form team. James looked like he had forgot how to play football in the first half hour but came onto his game and was pretty decent in the second half. The other three defenders were all very good. Rocky had one great save and as usual his distribution was poor. First half Motherwell should have been a couple of goals up but they didn't create chances when in the danger area. Second half was much more even and we created the best chance with Flo hitting the post. Omeonga was harshly booked early on but he is just the type of player we have been crying out for. Did really well to dial it back and still disrupt them and win the ball back more than any other Hibs player. Flo was poor and so was Doidge but they never really had much service. Boyle looked like he had his boots on the wrong feet at times today and never really contributed both in attack or helping James particularly in that early spell. Delighted to see youth be given a chance and Jamie did well enough firing a great ball across the 6 yard box. We will play better at Fir Park and lose so take our point and get into the cup game with a clean sheet and some decent results if not performances behind us.

Agree with most of that although I didn't think James showed any improvement until after the hour. I think the catalyst for that was when Motherwell brought Seedorf on and played him down their left and moved Scott into the middle.
I don't think James got near Scott all game who in my opinion had him on toast - but he seemed to quickly get the measure of Seedorf.
Motherwell were the better of the teams over the course today and I was happy coming away with a point.

The 90+2
25-01-2020, 06:28 PM
The electronic board was raised aloft by the fourth official indicating his squad number and indeed the squad number of the player he replaced.

😂😂😂😂😂

wookie70
25-01-2020, 06:30 PM
Agree with most of that although I didn't think James showed any improvement until after the hour. I think the catalyst for that was when Motherwell brought Seedorf on and played him down their left and moved Scott into the middle.
I don't think James got near Scott all game who in my opinion had him on toast - but he seemed to quickly get the measure of Seedorf.
Motherwell were the better of the teams over the course today and I was happy coming away with a point.

I agree he was best when Scott moved over but I thought his truly terrible start did improve before the first half ended. He looks decent on the ball too but his first thought in defense seems to be to back off and wait for a chance to tackle. That will cost us too many corners imo and we concede fairly regularly from them so should try to keep them to a minimum.

blackpoolhibs
25-01-2020, 06:33 PM
That’s the attitude we should have but we have far too many supporters who are happy to accept mid table mediocrity.

Exactly, some of the hysterical comments here about how he'd signed rubbish and how the squad was unbalanced week after week, and we were still winning and sitting in the top four, maybe even 2nd. Now we are really pish, with some real cross playing every week and some of those posters are silent.

MWHIBBIES
25-01-2020, 06:33 PM
It’s not always that men beat him it’s the amount of space he gives them to move forward in the the box by backing off as well.

To be fair- the last 25-30 mins of the game he did do a bit better but his defending is really poor.

Backing off and looking for the right moment to tackle is exactly how to do it, especially when left 1v1 by the disaster that is Boyle as striker. If Boyle plays his real position, James gets more cover and isn't left 1v1 so often.

James played well for an hour and his defending wasn't really poor. Jackson and Hanlon were excellent.

BoomtownHibees
25-01-2020, 06:34 PM
Backing off and looking for the right moment to tackle is exactly how to do it, especially when left 1v1 by the disaster that is Boyle as striker. If Boyle plays his real position, James gets more cover and isn't left 1v1 so often.

James played well for an hour and his defending wasn't really poor. Jackson and Hanlon were excellent.

Boyle didn’t play as striker today

blackpoolhibs
25-01-2020, 06:35 PM
Backing off and looking for the right moment to tackle is exactly how to do it, especially when left 1v1 by the disaster that is Boyle as striker. If Boyle plays his real position, James gets more cover and isn't left 1v1 so often.

James played well for an hour and his defending wasn't really poor. Jackson and Hanlon were excellent.

Admit it, you never watched the game???

B.H.F.C
25-01-2020, 06:36 PM
Backing off and looking for the right moment to tackle is exactly how to do it, especially when left 1v1 by the disaster that is Boyle as striker. If Boyle plays his real position, James gets more cover and isn't left 1v1 so often.

James played well for an hour and his defending wasn't really poor. Jackson and Hanlon were excellent.

It was a straightforward 442 with Boyle on the right wing.

jonny
25-01-2020, 06:36 PM
I agree he was best when Scott moved over but I thought his truly terrible start did improve before the first half ended. He looks decent on the ball too but his first thought in defense seems to be to back off and wait for a chance to tackle. That will cost us too many corners imo and we concede fairly regularly from them so should try to keep them to a minimum.

Perhaps it was just that after the 1st half hour every time the ball went down that side I shut my eyes because I was too scared to watch what was going to happen next lol.
At least reading your post I felt you watched the same game as me, I fully appreciate everyone has their own opinions about how things went but sheeeeesh (no names being mentioned because I ain't starting a civil war)

MWHIBBIES
25-01-2020, 06:39 PM
It was a straightforward 442 with Boyle on the right wing.Definitely wasn't. Boyle was often drifting up front, putting us down to 10 men in the process.


Admit it, you never watched the game???I was at the game. Try responding properly next time.

blackpoolhibs
25-01-2020, 06:43 PM
If Whittaker had played right back today, he'd be getting slaughtered for a performance like that,and rightly so.

BoomtownHibees
25-01-2020, 06:44 PM
Definitely wasn't. Boyle was often drifting up front, putting us down to 10 men in the process.

I was at the game. Try responding properly next time.

Boyle was 100% on the right of midfield

MWHIBBIES
25-01-2020, 06:44 PM
If Whittaker had played right back today, he'd be getting slaughtered for a performance like that,and rightly so.

Not from me, James started very badly but got better as it went on. Hardly like he cost us a goal. Seen Whittaker and Gray play much worse.

B.H.F.C
25-01-2020, 06:45 PM
Definitely wasn't. Boyle was often drifting up front, putting us down to 10 men in the process.

I was at the game. Try responding properly next time.

Aye ok, you’re right. The only person that saw it that way I think.

inglisavhibs
25-01-2020, 06:45 PM
Not the greatest spectacle but a good point away to a form team. James looked like he had forgot how to play football in the first half hour but came onto his game and was pretty decent in the second half. The other three defenders were all very good. Rocky had one great save and as usual his distribution was poor. First half Motherwell should have been a couple of goals up but they didn't create chances when in the danger area. Second half was much more even and we created the best chance with Flo hitting the post. Omeonga was harshly booked early on but he is just the type of player we have been crying out for. Did really well to dial it back and still disrupt them and win the ball back more than any other Hibs player. Flo was poor and so was Doidge but they never really had much service. Boyle looked like he had his boots on the wrong feet at times today and never really contributed both in attack or helping James particularly in that early spell. Delighted to see youth be given a chance and Jamie did well enough firing a great ball across the 6 yard box. We will play better at Fir Park and lose so take our point and get into the cup game with a clean sheet and some decent results if not performances behind us.
Watching the full game on Alba and nowhere near as bad as led to believe. If Boyle and Kamberi had been a bit more aware we could easily have won. Good point at a difficult venue. Omeonga makes a big difference with his energy and closing down. Hanlon and Jackson were excellent.

MWHIBBIES
25-01-2020, 06:45 PM
Boyle was 100% on the right of midfield

For parts of the game yes, not for all of it. He was drifting up front many times.

Really wish our league had a good site for heatmaps so I could quickly prove these things. Isnt the match on alba? It will clearly show what I'm talking about.

MWHIBBIES
25-01-2020, 06:46 PM
Aye ok, you’re right. The only person that saw it that way I think.

Thats never bothered me, would hardly be the first time I've been right when many others have disagreed.

I'm not posting on here to win some popularity contest, if you disagree do so by debating my points, not boring nonsense like that.

Heckys Wheel
25-01-2020, 06:47 PM
If Whittaker had played right back today, he'd be getting slaughtered for a performance like that,and rightly so.

Thought James was trying to outdo Whittaker’s performance last time out at Fir Park. To be fair to James, he stuck at it and came into the game a bit. Probably when Scott moved to the right mind you.

BoomtownHibees
25-01-2020, 06:47 PM
For parts of the game yes, not for all of it. He was drifting up front many times.

Really wish our league had a good site for heatmaps so I could quickly prove these things. Isnt the match on alba? It will clearly show what I'm talking about.

I saw the game with my own eyes and knew he was playing on the right of midfield. Maybe when we were attacking he drifted away from there (like all good players do) however at no point was he playing as a striker

Hiber-nation
25-01-2020, 06:47 PM
Definitely wasn't. Boyle was often drifting up front, putting us down to 10 men in the process.

I was at the game. Try responding properly next time.

Drifted up front once in the first half and didn't put us "down to 10 men". He just wasn't very good today, that's all. But keep believing you're right all the time.

FifeHibs
25-01-2020, 06:47 PM
Not from me, James started very badly but got better as it went on. Hardly like he cost us a goal. Seen Whittaker and Gray play much worse.

James is not up to this level of football, he can't tackle and has a lack of pace. Omeonga and Newell were dropping back to help cover him.
Motherwell went past him with ease.

greenlex
25-01-2020, 06:48 PM
Aye ok, you’re right. The only person that saw it that way I think.
No he’s not. Boyle maybe wasn’t playing up front but he left James horribly exposed a good few times in the first half hour.

MWHIBBIES
25-01-2020, 06:50 PM
I saw the game with my own eyes and knew he was playing on the right of midfield. Maybe when we were attacking he drifted away from there (like all good players do) however at no point was he playing as a striker

I saw it with my own eyes as well, plenty times he was between their centre halfs. You probably didn't notice it because he is literally never involved when he does it. Like a man short.

B.H.F.C
25-01-2020, 06:54 PM
Thats never bothered me, would hardly be the first time I've been right when many others have disagreed.

I'm not posting on here to win some popularity contest, if you disagree do so by debating my points, not boring nonsense like that.

We set up 442 exactly the same as the second half the other night. Pretty simple really. Not really sure how you’d see it differently.

B.H.F.C
25-01-2020, 06:55 PM
I saw it with my own eyes as well, plenty times he was between their centre halfs. You probably didn't notice it because he is literally never involved when he does it. Like a man short.

He literally never touched the ball or was involved between the centre halves at Tynecastle.

Iggy Pope
25-01-2020, 06:55 PM
The suggestion that Hibs somehow played 4-3-3 today is laughable.

B.H.F.C
25-01-2020, 06:56 PM
No he’s not. Boyle maybe wasn’t playing up front but he left James horribly exposed a good few times in the first half hour.

Aye that’s fine. But it was nothing to do with him playing up front. Just that he didn’t do his job on the right of midfield very well.

MWHIBBIES
25-01-2020, 06:58 PM
He literally never touched the ball between the centre halves at Tynecastle.Yes, he play well as a striker there. 2 days later vs Livi he was a man short.


The suggestion that Hibs somehow played 4-3-3 today is laughable.Yes, we didn't but we did have our front 2 and 2 wide men drifting all over the place. Cant be 4-3-3 with only 2 midfielders, no one suggested that.


We set up 442 exactly the same as the second half the other night. Pretty simple really. Not really sure how you’d see it differently.Not really that simple because it wasn't a flat 442. I've already said Boyle was drifting in field quite often.

B.H.F.C
25-01-2020, 06:59 PM
Yes, he play well as a striker there. 2 days later vs Livi he was a man short.

Yes, we didn't but we did have our front 2 and 2 wide men drifting all over the place. Cant be 4-3-3 with only 2 midfielders, no one suggested that.

Not really that simple because it wasn't a flat 442. I've already said Boyle was drifting in field quite often.

But you said literally never. Make your mind up. It was a 442. Players drifting doesn’t mean it wasn’t. It just means they drifted.

MWHIBBIES
25-01-2020, 07:00 PM
But you said literally never. Make your mind up. It was a 442. Players drifting doesn’t mean it wasn’t. It just means they drifted.

Right, it was a 442. Except if players drift around it isn't always a ****ing 442 is it?

Were the players literally always in a 442 formation? Is that what you're saying?

MWHIBBIES
25-01-2020, 07:03 PM
Drifted up front once in the first half and didn't put us "down to 10 men". He just wasn't very good today, that's all. But keep believing you're right all the time.

When have I ever said I'm right all the time? Thats an outrageous thing to claim. I'm just right most of the time.

You must've left after 10 minutes if you think he drifted up front once.

B.H.F.C
25-01-2020, 07:03 PM
Right, it was a 442. Except if players drift around it isn't always a ****ing 442 is it?

Were the players literally always in a 442 formation? Is that what you're saying?

No need to swear, it’s Saturday. Yep, 442. I think i already said that.

MWHIBBIES
25-01-2020, 07:06 PM
No need to swear, it’s Saturday. Yep, 442. I think i already said that.

So we defended corners and free kicks in a 442? Or did we attack in a 442? With everyone playing those perfect positions? Or did we actually have players interchaging, trying to confuse the opposition and create space and chances? Thats what actually happened and Boyle was often moving central. He offered very little when he did.

B.H.F.C
25-01-2020, 07:08 PM
So we defended corners and free kicks in a 442? Or did we attack in a 442? With everyone playing those perfect positions? Or did we actually have players interchaging, trying to confuse the opposition and create space and chances? Thats what actually happened and Boyle was often moving central. He offered very little when he did.

See in the last minute of the derby, Lewis Stevenson chases the boy away up the right wing when we cleared the corner. Does that mean he wasn’t playing left back?

Hiber-nation
25-01-2020, 07:16 PM
When have I ever said I'm right all the time? Thats an outrageous thing to claim. I'm just right most of the time.

You must've left after 10 minutes if you think he drifted up front once.

Aye you said it. Dr Football :greengrin

angus hibby
25-01-2020, 07:23 PM
James left 1v1 too often in the first half. This generally means someone isn't doing their job properly. Full backs should always be getting support, so harsh to be having a pop at James.

Smartie
25-01-2020, 07:26 PM
James started the game very badly but deserves credit for improving as the game went on.

I don’t want to make excuses for him but the number of times he was exposed 1 on 1 against a very handy opponent was concerning during the first half. It might have been something tactical though because when he was skinned (which was often) he’d often have Omeonga in behind him to bail him out and if the truth be told, for all it looked like he was being slaughtered they didn’t actually create much.

I like fullbacks to be able to defend though and he doesn’t seem to want to get close to players and make tackles. A non-tackling fullback is not necessarily something I want in my team. What I would say is that if we’d played either Whittaker or McGregor there, I reckon they’d have been totally done for pace by the same opponent so James was probably the right choice.

James just doesn’t look like a fullback but if he’s not a fullback then what is he?

Brightside
25-01-2020, 09:21 PM
Backing off and looking for the right moment to tackle is exactly how to do it, especially when left 1v1 by the disaster that is Boyle as striker. If Boyle plays his real position, James gets more cover and isn't left 1v1 so often.

James played well for an hour and his defending wasn't really poor. Jackson and Hanlon were excellent.

Correct

JimBHibees
25-01-2020, 09:23 PM
James left 1v1 too often in the first half. This generally means someone isn't doing their job properly. Full backs should always be getting support, so harsh to be having a pop at James.

To be fair to Tom he hasn't played a minute of first team action for months. Was Gray injured?