Doidge

[hibsbollah]

Yip that was my point, folk use it to constantly bash the guy but no one knows how much we paid for him, sounds good though!!

Im reminded of Clayton Donaldson the other day, so I checked his stats out. He's 35 now, just about to retire, very decent career with 170 odd league goals, played a number of seasons in the English Championship for Brentford and Birmingham, always scored regularly at that level and earned a decent wedge for himself in his career. I always liked him for us and thought he could do a job, decent foil for Fletcher possibly, he wasn't that young then, mid 20s or something, but the fans never really fancied him, Mixu froze him out, got 6 goals or something for us, but if we'd persevered I think it would have worked out. I think we lack patience with our strikers sometimes.

[SHODAN]

Im reminded of Clayton Donaldson the other day, so I checked his stats out. He's 35 now, just about to retire, very decent career with 170 odd league goals, played a number of seasons in the English Championship for Brentford and Birmingham, always scored regularly at that level and earned a decent wedge for himself in his career. I always liked him for us and thought he could do a job, decent foil for Fletcher possibly, he wasn't that young then, mid 20s or something, but the fans never really fancied him, Mixu froze him out, got 6 goals or something for us, but if we'd persevered I think it would have worked out. I think we lack patience with our strikers sometimes.

Likewise with James Collins. Paid a big fee for him at the time and we all (including myself) thought he was *****. Look at him now.

Let's give him some time eh.

[hibsbollah]

This is it. Folk are saying "give him time, look at the likes of Collins and Cosgrove". Collins was 22 when he signed for us, same age as Cosgrove is now.

He'd do a Brian Graham-esque job as back-up, but should never be our no 1 striker.

A player can improve and grow in a team just as easily at 27 as at 22. There's seems to be this weird myth on here that if you haven't done it by your mid 20s you're washed up :dunno:

[Allant1981]

It was a transfer fee of £350k

Of course it was

[Allant1981]

Im reminded of Clayton Donaldson the other day, so I checked his stats out. He's 35 now, just about to retire, very decent career with 170 odd league goals, played a number of seasons in the English Championship for Brentford and Birmingham, always scored regularly at that level and earned a decent wedge for himself in his career. I always liked him for us and thought he could do a job, decent foil for Fletcher possibly, he wasn't that young then, mid 20s or something, but the fans never really fancied him, Mixu froze him out, got 6 goals or something for us, but if we'd persevered I think it would have worked out. I think we lack patience with our strikers sometimes.

Football fans are a funny breed, in a "normal" job you wouldnt have folk hounding you after 4 months in a new job but we seem to expect footballers to always hit the ground running straight away, doidge may or may not come good but we need to give the guy a chance

[My_Wife_Camille]

Of course it was
Great input Allan. You said nobody knows, you're wrong.

[hibsbollah]

Likewise with James Collins. Paid a big fee for him at the time and we all (including myself) thought he was *****. Look at him now.

Let's give him some time eh.

Im not being consistent here but I couldn't stand James Collins and wanted him out :faf: but yeah it's a similar story. Some players and some teams just don't fit, but other times you need to give a boy time. I'm fairly sure Clayton would have banged them in for us during that horrible 2010-15 period if he'd stayed.

[The_Horde]

A player can improve and grow in a team just as easily at 27 as at 22. There's seems to be this weird myth on here that if you haven't done it by your mid 20s you're washed up :dunno:

Very well, I'd take your point but it doesn't change the fact that people are more likely to cut a 22 year old more slack than they'd give a 27 year old when that much money has crossed hands.

Wouldn't mind seeing the evidence of your claim either.

[green with envy]

Good post. We absolutely love a scapegoat, the guy has played pretty well goals aside since come back in and his movement to get into the positions was very good. Just one of these things he got more desperate the more he missed it happens. Needs the support and patience of the fans that is for sure.

He surely couldn't have been feeling desperate though when he was missing decent chances earlier on the season. Nah, i'm happy to make my mind up about him not so much for the first 3 chances on Saturday but for the one that he decided not to give Allan a simple tap in that would have secured the win.

I've seen every game that he has played in a Hibs jersey and have came to the conclusion that he is a huddie.

[My_Wife_Camille]

Football fans are a funny breed, in a "normal" job you wouldnt have folk hounding you after 4 months in a new job but we seem to expect footballers to always hit the ground running straight away, doidge may or may not come good but we need to give the guy a chance
Actually, in a "normal" job you typically have a probationary period (which is much shorter than 4 months) during which your employer can punt you if you clearly aren't up to the job...

[blackpoolhibs]

I never thought I’d be pining for the prolific Grant Holt.

[hibsbollah]

Very well, I'd take your point but it doesn't change the fact that people are more likely to cut a 22 year old more slack than they'd give a 27 year old when that much money has crossed hands.

Wouldn't mind seeing the evidence of your claim either.

Evidence of what, that you can't make massive improvements as an athlete and sportsman in your mid twenties? I don't have to provide that, the evidence is everywhere surely? As to the money thing, yes I do take your point. I don't think about the transfer fee that much.

[calumhibee1]

Great input Allan. You said nobody knows, you're wrong.

Do you know though? Or do you just know what people keep saying we paid on here? The story at the time said in excess of £250k.. if it was £350k then I’d have suspected they’d have said in excess of £300k surely?

[Allant1981]

Great input Allan. You said nobody knows, you're wrong.


Yip I am wrong, the club and doidge will know for sure, unless you are an employee of either then you wont know

[The_Horde]

Evidence of what, that you can't make massive improvements as an athlete and sportsman in your mid twenties? I don't have to provide that, the evidence is everywhere surely? As to the money thing, yes I do take your point. I don't think about the transfer fee that much.

I'd like some examples of footballers doing it please.

[Allant1981]

Actually, in a "normal" job you typically have a probationary period (which is much shorter than 4 months) during which your employer can punt you if you clearly aren't up to the job...

As a manager I'm more than aware of that but thanks anyway

[Allant1981]

I'd like some examples of footballers doing it please.

Jamie vardy? Sure he was mid 20's when he started to progress at Leicester

[hibsbollah]

I'd like some examples of footballers doing it please.

Must be loads. Glenn Murray jumps out at me, Andy Robertson made his big jump at 23-24 and is getting better at 25, could be a good game but my train is about to arrive at the weedge so I'll let others join in :greengrin

[calumhibee1]

Jamie vardy? Sure he was mid 20's when he started to progress at Leicester

He was 28 when he first had a really good season at the top level.

[matty_f]

Very well, I'd take your point but it doesn't change the fact that people are more likely to cut a 22 year old more slack than they'd give a 27 year old when that much money has crossed hands.

Wouldn't mind seeing the evidence of your claim either.

It's not Doidge's fault that we paid money for him.

[My_Wife_Camille]

Do you know though? Or do you just know what people keep saying we paid on here? The story at the time said in excess of £250k.. if it was £350k then I’d have suspected they’d have said in excess of £300k surely?
I do know, nothing to do with what's been posted on here.


Yip I am wrong, the club and doidge will know for sure, unless you are an employee of either then you wont know
Wrong again Allan

[Allant1981]

I do know, nothing to do with what's been posted on here.


Wrong again Allan

Again, I'm sure you do

[turn and burn]

In a thread about judging Doidge as a footballer, there is very little by way of any analysis of his game.

[My_Wife_Camille]

Again, I'm sure you do
You've said you're sure I know twice and you've also said nobody knows twice. You've also said that people in normal jobs don't get judged after 4 months but you've also said that you know that they do.

You don't appear to be able to keep up with yourself, nevermind anyone else but you seem to be having a rare old time objecting to everything and everyone so bash on.

[The_Horde]

It's not Doidge's fault that we paid money for him.

I don't think anyone is saying that either.

[Allant1981]

You've said you're sure I know twice and you've also said nobody knows twice. You've also said that people in normal jobs don't get judged after 4 months but you've also said that you know that they do.

You don't appear to be able to keep up with yourself, nevermind anyone else but you seem to be having a rare old time objecting to everything and everyone so bash on.

Nope just object to attention seekers who claim to know inside info when they dont, but this is going off track so will bow out now as this often happens on threads and it's annoying for others

[matty_f]

I don't think anyone is saying that either.

It's implied when they use it as an excuse for the abuse he gets.

[The_Horde]

Must be loads. Glenn Murray jumps out at me, Andy Robertson made his big jump at 23-24 and is getting better at 25, could be a good game but my train is about to arrive at the weedge so I'll let others join in :greengrin

Sorry, can't give you Robertson. He made his big jump to the prem much earlier than that and he also happens to be a bit of a freak of nature when it comes to his rise.

Murray is contentious but I'll allow it, he was banging them in for years and was doubted for the big time but proved people wrong. Was still about 25 when he made the jump though which is a bit different to 27.

Vardy is the obvious choice of course. But these examples are from at least 5 years ago and in Murray's case longer than that.

If you have to go digging that far back I'd say that, in summary, it's less likely that a 27 year old will turn it around and improve/adjust to the next level than the other way.

[The_Horde]

Nope just object to attention seekers who claim to know inside info when they dont, but this is going off track so will bow out now as this often happens on threads and it's annoying for others

Will you continue on your other username?

[J-C]

Hibs are not a club that can afford to pay a fee and not have the player hitting the ground running, we cannot sit and wait for guys like that to eventually come good. This is why we develop our own players and give them time.

[Allant1981]

Will you continue on your other username?

I dont have another username

[My_Wife_Camille]

Nope just object to attention seekers who claim to know inside info when they dont, but this is going off track so will bow out now as this often happens on threads and it's annoying for others
No problem. It's an unfortunate assumption to make but you've made your mind up. No hard feelings here despite the 'attention seeker' jibe.

[matty_f]

Sorry, can't give you Robertson. He made his big jump to the prem much earlier than that and he also happens to be a bit of a freak of nature when it comes to his rise.

Murray is contentious but I'll allow it, he was banging them in for years and was doubted for the big time but proved people wrong. Was still about 25 when he made the jump though which is a bit different to 27.

Vardy is the obvious choice of course. But these examples are from at least 5 years ago and in Murray's case longer than that.

If you have to go digging that far back I'd say that, in summary, it's less likely that a 27 year old will turn it around and improve/adjust to the next level than the other way.

He hardly had to go digging for them!

No offence but I hate this approach on here.
- give me examples
*gets examples*
-they don't count because (insert spurious reason here)
-if that's all you've got then I'm right

[matty_f]

I dont have another username

Come on, you always team up with MWC.


Have I got that right? :greengrin

[Allant1981]

No problem. It's an unfortunate assumption to make but you've made your mind up. No hard feelings here despite the 'attention seeker' jibe.

Apologies for coming over as a dick

[My_Wife_Camille]

He hardly had to go digging for them!

No offence but I hate this approach on here.
- give me examples
*gets examples*
-they don't count because (insert spurious reason here)
-if that's all you've got then I'm right
To be fair, objecting to someone giving a 23 and a 25 year old as examples of a 27 year old isn't what I'd call spurious :greengrin

[The_Horde]

He hardly had to go digging for them!

No offence but I hate this approach on here.
- give me examples
*gets examples*
-they don't count because (insert spurious reason here)
-if that's all you've got then I'm right

Which would be great if my point wasn't that there was absolutely none. But it wasn't.

I never doubted that there was some. But there isn't many, is there?

It's a bit like when folk talk about managers turning it around and then go on to reference Fergie from about 30 years ago. Its a great example but it proves heehaw.

[greenlex]

Sorry, can't give you Robertson. He made his big jump to the prem much earlier than that and he also happens to be a bit of a freak of nature when it comes to his rise.

Murray is contentious but I'll allow it, he was banging them in for years and was doubted for the big time but proved people wrong. Was still about 25 when he made the jump though which is a bit different to 27.

Vardy is the obvious choice of course. But these examples are from at least 5 years ago and in Murray's case longer than that.

If you have to go digging that far back I'd say that, in summary, it's less likely that a 27 year old will turn it around and improve/adjust to the next level than the other way.
Time barring your reasoning. Marvelous.

[paddy1875]

The big man could’ve banked the 3 points for us with his 4 chances on Saturday. He made a mess of the first 3 and the 4th isn’t even worth talking about. Square pass to Allan and the games over. As a striker I get why he takes the last one on but surely the team comes first.

He’s had a very slow start here. And rightly so the fans are on his back with the chances he’s missed. Maybe he’ll come good and turn it around but the most likely is he’ll head back down the road somewhere and start scoring again. That’s normally what happens with strikers we spend decent money on.


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[flash]

Come on, you always team up with MWC.


Have I got that right? :greengrin

Close but no cigar.:wink:

[The_Horde]

I dont have another username

You sure about that, Callum?

[Allant1981]

You sure about that, Callum?

Aye callum is my weekend name

[The_Horde]

Time barring your reasoning. Marvelous.

They're great examples, ones that everyone the world over could give. But the fact they're so long ago and so widely renowned/celebrated proves they're the exception to that particular rule.

Only one of the examples was 27. Anyone got any more?

[superfurryhibby]

They're great examples, ones that everyone the world over could give. But the fact they're so long ago and so widely renowned/celebrated proves they're the exception to that particular rule.

Only one of the examples was 27. Anyone got any more?

Please give it a rest, tiresome, torturous double act person. Your attention seeking drivel is boring the **** out of me.

[MacGruber]

They're great examples, ones that everyone the world over could give. But the fact they're so long ago and so widely renowned/celebrated proves they're the exception to that particular rule.

Only one of the examples was 27. Anyone got any more?

Will have at the end of the season - Christian Doidge.

Sticky start at Hibs but turned it round to score 15 goals in his first season and 20 plus the following season before a £750,000 move to the Championship which splits Hibs fans as being far too low a fee against those that recognise he is in the last year of his contract however all feel we'll struggle to replace... mark my words!...

[The_Horde]

Please give it a rest, tiresome, torturous double act person. Your attention seeking drivel is boring the **** out of me.

Can I ask exactly what it is you're asking me to give a rest?

What exactly is attention seeking about offering an opinion as to why a player is coming under added scrutiny?

[The_Horde]

Will have at the end of the season - Christian Doidge.

Sticky start at Hibs but turned it round to score 15 goals in his first season and 20 plus the following season before a £750,000 move to the Championship which splits Hibs fans as being far too low a fee against those that recognise he is in the last year of his contract however all feel we'll struggle to replace... mark my words!...

Please be true.

[FilipinoHibs]

Will have at the end of the season - Christian Doidge.

Sticky start at Hibs but turned it round to score 15 goals in his first season and 20 plus the following season before a £750,000 move to the Championship which splits Hibs fans as being far too low a fee against those that recognise he is in the last year of his contract however all feel we'll struggle to replace... mark my words!...

I have said to a mate I will eat my hibs baseball hat if this happens. He said it will be the only hat trick involving The Dog. That was before Saturday's hat trick plus one of one on one misses.

[Brightside]

I dont have another username

Maybe you should change it? :wink:

[Allant1981]

Maybe you should change it? :wink:

Think I'll need to make another account just so I can swap between the 2

[The_Horde]

Maybe you should change it? :wink:

Let me know before you do it please Callum, so I can make sure to have both of your usernames on ignore. That's how we deal with things on here, right? :wink:

[KeithTheHibby]

His misses were poor especially the last one, that was criminal.

He had so much time and Allan was screaming for the ball so to not play him in was shocking.

You would think after missing 3 other good chances it would have perhaps played on his mind during the passage of play with the 4th one.

[SCHAEDYSHORTS]

Seem to remember Doidge scuffing a shot against Celtic last week when he again seemed unaware that Scott Allan was wide of him, unmarked at the edge of the box? Probably just needs to bag one or two to get up & running but how long can we go on squandering great opportunities? On the positive side at least we were creating some finally & against a team we always struggle against.

[Spike Mandela]

Hopefully for the next two weeks in training all they have this guy doing is one on ones.

[JeMeSouviens]

His misses were poor especially the last one, that was criminal.

He had so much time and Allan was screaming for the ball so to not play him in was shocking.

You would think after missing 3 other good chances it would have perhaps played on his mind during the passage of play with the 4th one.

They get worse and worse:

Miss 1 is a tricky chance and the keeper is out fast.
Miss 2 I don't think he regains his balance.
Miss 3 oh dear.
Miss 4 ffs.

[JeMeSouviens]

Hopefully for the next two weeks in training all they have this guy doing is one on ones.

Maybe some 2 on 1s where he actually ****ING PASSES IT!!!!!!

[Daydreamer]

Had a discussion with another Hibby on Saturday in a boozer along Union Street after the game who I had'nt seen for a few years and he was raving about Doidge's runs for the chances. I could'nt disagree with that assessment but pointed out he should have scored at least one for making these intelligent runs. He was adamant that Doidge wiil start scoring over the next few games. I believe there is a player there.

[ABZHFC]

His misses were poor especially the last one, that was criminal.

He had so much time and Allan was screaming for the ball so to not play him in was shocking.

You would think after missing 3 other good chances it would have perhaps played on his mind during the passage of play with the 4th one.

Having watched the highlights of his misses (admittedly with my head in my hands by the fourth), you can see for the last one that he never even considers to look up and see if there is another option running with him, he quickly checks that the flag has stayed down and then after that only had one thing on his mind - to try and stick it in the back of the net. I feel as though a more confident striker would have taken the time to look up, assess the options, and then either bury it or square it and finish the game. It's perhaps the mark of a forward low on confidence and snatching at chances, desperate to get a goal to his name, especially after some pretty poor misses already in the game.

Shame, because like I said, I think he's quite a good player save for his finishing ability, which has (so far) left a lot to be desired. Would hate for him to become a scapegoat, especially as hardly any Hibs player has had a perfect start to this campaign by any stretch of the imagination.

[Keith_M]

Apologies if this comes across as a dig at anyone, as its not intended that way, but...

Can a CF really be described as 'a decent player, except for his finishing'?

I can easily accept that description of players in other positions... but a CF?

[The_Horde]

What happens after Doidge gets this goal that everyone thinks he needs?

Does he go on to score 20 a season until he retires or is it simply a case of getting the fans off his back?

[JeMeSouviens]

Apologies if this comes across as a dig at anyone, as its not intended that way, but...

Can a CF really be described as 'a decent player, except for his finishing'?

I can easily accept that description of players in other positions... but a CF?

Possibly if he has great hold up/link up play and is a foil for a more deadly strike partner. If he's the 1 up front and won't set up someone else for a tap in, not so much.

[MacGruber]

Apologies if this comes across as a dig at anyone, as its not intended that way, but...

Can a CF really be described as 'a decent player, except for his finishing'?

I can easily accept that description of players in other positions... but a CF?

You can be a good goalkeeper except the saves

[hibsbollah]

Sorry, can't give you Robertson. He made his big jump to the prem much earlier than that and he also happens to be a bit of a freak of nature when it comes to his rise.

Murray is contentious but I'll allow it, he was banging them in for years and was doubted for the big time but proved people wrong. Was still about 25 when he made the jump though which is a bit different to 27.

Vardy is the obvious choice of course. But these examples are from at least 5 years ago and in Murray's case longer than that.

If you have to go digging that far back I'd say that, in summary, it's less likely that a 27 year old will turn it around and improve/adjust to the next level than the other way.

This is very strange. I gave you a couple of examples 5 minutes after you asked for them, so I'm hardly 'digging' for anything. I'm not trying to prove a point or win an argument. I don't need to because I know I'm right:greengrin

It's just self evident that athletes including footballers can get better from mid twenties onwards. Speed can still improve, muscle growth can increase, football intelligence can increase. You need excellent coaching, you need to be dedicated to your job and practice and train hard and eat well, but there's just no argument it's a thing. There's loads of players that get better with age. You must know that without me going on wiki only for you to then discount them for spurious reasons like you did with Robbo.

[Smartie]

Another thing I'd say about Doidge in his favour is that he seems to be a really decent, likeable bloke.

He absolutely desperate to be a success for us, you can see it shining through everything he does, and it is working to his detriment at the moment - he always looks like he's trying too hard to impress and has lost his composure.

We've had a few dislikable erseholes play for us in our time but Doidge is a player that I just can't wish any ill on, even when he has a day like Saturday.

I really hope he gets the chance to settle down and make a solid contribution for us, and I hope the looney twitter squad don't go over the top.

The guy is knocking his pan in for us and it's just not happening for him right now.

[The_Horde]

This is very strange. I gave you a couple of examples 5 minutes after you asked for them, so I'm hardly 'digging' for anything. I'm not trying to prove a point or win an argument. I don't need to because I know I'm right:greengrin

It's just self evident that athletes including footballers can get better from mid twenties onwards. Speed can still improve, muscle growth can increase, football intelligence can increase. You need excellent coaching, you need to be dedicated to your job and practice and train hard and eat well, but there's just no argument it's a thing. There's loads of players that get better with age. You must know that without me going on wiki only for you to then discount them for spurious reasons like you did with Robbo.

It's a bit later than 5 minutes now, you got any more?

Also, my interpretation of you 'digging around' (no matter how brief) is you including 23 and 25 year old football players to prove that a 27 year old football player can adapt, improve and turn it around.

[JimBHibees]

This is very strange. I gave you a couple of examples 5 minutes after you asked for them, so I'm hardly 'digging' for anything. I'm not trying to prove a point or win an argument. I don't need to because I know I'm right:greengrin

It's just self evident that athletes including footballers can get better from mid twenties onwards. Speed can still improve, muscle growth can increase, football intelligence can increase. You need excellent coaching, you need to be dedicated to your job and practice and train hard and eat well, but there's just no argument it's a thing. There's loads of players that get better with age. You must know that without me going on wiki only for you to then discount them for spurious reasons like you did with Robbo.

A lot of players indicate they were/are at their peak late twenties due to the exact reasons you listed.

Article from BBC sport

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-28254123

[hibsbollah]

It's a bit later than 5 minutes now, you got any more?

Oh dear.

Here's the deal. Ive got a life. Stop being silly and look for yourself.

[DH1875]

They get worse and worse:

Miss 1 is a tricky chance and the keeper is out fast.
Miss 2 I don't think he regains his balance.
Miss 3 oh dear.
Miss 4 ffs.


That's my take on it. 1st 2 chances not as clear cut as some suggest and could be seen us unlucky. Last 2, just not good enough. Not passing to Allan was criminal and it cost us the win.

[JimBHibees]

Another thing I'd say about Doidge in his favour is that he seems to be a really decent, likeable bloke.

He absolutely desperate to be a success for us, you can see it shining through everything he does, and it is working to his detriment at the moment - he always looks like he's trying too hard to impress and has lost his composure.

We've had a few dislikable erseholes play for us in our time but Doidge is a player that I just can't wish any ill on, even when he has a day like Saturday.

I really hope he gets the chance to settle down and make a solid contribution for us, and I hope the looney twitter squad don't go over the top.

The guy is knocking his pan in for us and it's just not happening for him right now.

Agree with that was a bit painful when he was reported as saying he knew he wasn't a fans favourite which emphasises imo how much impact scathing criticism can have on players. All players will know they will make mistakes and receive criticism especially in the social media everyone has an opinion time we live in however a wee bit of balance and support wouldn't go amiss. Also like him and hope he continues to do what he is doing as he has improved the team in the last 3 games where no one would have predicted we would be unbeaten in post derby defeat.

[kentao]

You can be a good goalkeeper except the saves

I would agree Mark Oxley has had a decent enough career.

[ABZHFC]

Apologies if this comes across as a dig at anyone, as its not intended that way, but...

Can a CF really be described as 'a decent player, except for his finishing'?

I can easily accept that description of players in other positions... but a CF?

I take your point, and in a system where we play one up front most weeks, he cannot be effective enough unless he starts putting these sort of chances away regularly. If he was the foil for a more prolific finisher, however, then maybe his work to win headers and bring others into play would come to be seen as more invaluable

[JohnMcM]

I posted this on the highlights thread yesterday. Probably better here.


I remember some of our best scorers such as Colin Stein, Stephen Fletcher, Leigh Griffiths, Keith Wright, (and even Jimmy O'Rourke as far as I remember), all had a slow start to their scoring deeds.

The only one I remember making an instant impact was Joe Baker.

A lot of folks are writing Doidge off, rightly or wrongly, who knows?

Whilst, arguably, he made his name at a so-called lower league club it might do well to remember that for most of his time here he has played a lone role has he not, and for the majority of time has had poor service.

I wasn't there yesterday so cannot comment on the chances he had. I would guess however that he is just as disappointed as the fans who were there.

Maybe, just maybe when his goals start to come, and they will, he can join the ranks of those above amongst others.

:flag:

[The_Horde]

Oh dear.

Here's the deal. Ive got a life. Stop being silly and look for yourself.

I can't find any.

I'm happy to accept your veiled insult as a not so neat but timely deflection and acceptance that you're wrong in this particular instance and finally that you have no intention to provide the non-existent evidence that would actually make me look foolish.

I'm off to play fifa. Good day.

[SHODAN]

Doidge will be our top league scorer this season.

[inglisavhibs]

Agree with that was a bit painful when he was reported as saying he knew he wasn't a fans favourite which emphasises imo how much impact scathing criticism can have on players. All players will know they will make mistakes and receive criticism especially in the social media everyone has an opinion time we live in however a wee bit of balance and support wouldn't go amiss. Also like him and hope he continues to do what he is doing as he has improved the team in the last 3 games where no one would have predicted we would be unbeaten in post derby defeat.

Spot on, three good results in a row which nobody predicted after the Hearts defeat. The next bit is just as hard, that’s beating the so called lesser lights.

[JeMeSouviens]

Doidge will be our top league scorer this season.

... with 3 goals.

[JimBHibees]

... with 3 goals.

:faf::faf: :greengrin

[The_Horde]

... with 3 goals.

And if he is what will that prove?

[angus hibby]

Good job Raheem Sterling didn’t play for Hibs. Used to miss a lot of 1 v 1’s and look at him now.

I’d be much more worried if Doidge wasn’t getting into positions to score. Saw another comment from someone saying you can see he really cares and is desperate to do well and that’s spot on. Fans should be getting behind him.

[HibbyAndy]

Just watched Sportscene from last night and that is a shocker from Doidge !! He's GOT TO square it to Allan for 2-0 , Unbelievable :bitchy::bitchy:

[Captain Trips]

Just watched Sportscene from last night and that is a shocker from Doidge !! He's GOT TO square it to Allan for 2-0 , Unbelievable :bitchy::bitchy:

Indeed that was a shocking state of affairs, I wonder if it was the other way round and Allan had squared it to Doidge he would have missed that as well.

[calumhibee1]

Indeed that was a shocking state of affairs, I wonder if it was the other way round and Allan had squared it to Doidge he would have missed that as well.

Would prob have scored an OG according to some folk the way they are desperate to stick the boot into him.

[HibbyAndy]

Would prob have scored an OG according to some folk the way they are desperate to stick the boot into him.

I thought he played well against Celtc the week before , Held the ball up well but had no support in the final 3rd

He justifies getting criticism on Saturday though , That has got to be squared to Allan for 2-0 and game over

[calumhibee1]

I thought he played well against Celtc the week before , Held the ball up well but had no support in the final 3rd

He justifies getting criticism on Saturday though , That has got to be squared to Allan for 2-0 and game over

He absolutely deserves criticism for Saturday and his missed chances. No doubt about it.

Some folk go on about him like he’s the reincarnation of Wallace Mercer though.

[CLASS OF 72 -73]

Try chanting the lads name might give him some confidence. Mind you 'Try' being the operative word not the easiest or most rhythmic.

[hibeerealist]

Apologies if this comes across as a dig at anyone, as its not intended that way, but...

Can a CF really be described as 'a decent player, except for his finishing'?

I can easily accept that description of players in other positions... but a CF?

Ha ha, well spotted

[PaulSmith]

Would prob have scored an OG according to some folk the way they are desperate to stick the boot into him.


Aye, spot on right enough... There’s Hibs fans who before a game say to their mates “I hope Doidge misses some great chances today, we don’t win and I can get right into Hibs Net to stick the boot in”...

😂😂

[J-C]

Apologies if this comes across as a dig at anyone, as its not intended that way, but...

Can a CF really be described as 'a decent player, except for his finishing'?

I can easily accept that description of players in other positions... but a CF?


Good question and the answer is yes as long as the players around him are scoring goals to make up for his lack of them, as others have said, holding up play and bringing others into play are just as important.

Our problem right now is we have no one good enough to play out wide to support him and we have a manager who's style of play is to be cautious in the first instance if he allowed his players more freedom and maybe decided to have a go now and again then we may see the striker score more. We lack pace and it certainly shows, most of the game play is slow and lacklustre and easily snuffed out by most teams.

[Tyler Durden]

Good question and the answer is yes as long as the players around him are scoring goals to make up for his lack of them, as others have said, holding up play and bringing others into play are just as important.

Our problem right now is we have no one good enough to play out wide to support him and we have a manager who's style of play is to be cautious in the first instance if he allowed his players more freedom and maybe decided to have a go now and again then we may see the striker score more. We lack pace and it certainly shows, most of the game play is slow and lacklustre and easily snuffed out by most teams.

I think this is spot on. You wouldn’t for example play Mixu up front on his own.

Doidge might be good at linking the play - I’m not convinced as yet - but it doesn’t appear he can play as a lone striker who we rely on for goals.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Think I'll need to make another account just so I can swap between the 2



you wouldn't be the first, or the last tbf



watch out for the 'controversial' threads and the 'long time browser' posters :devil:

[Clarence]

It’s been a slow start to the season but I think the combo of Boyle and Doidge will yield 10-15 goals between them and we’ll avoid relegation - stop panicking everyone!

[greenpaper55]

He gets himself into some nice positions with the runs he makes but just looking back on Saturdays chances he just lacks that wee bit pace to finish the move off hence keepers get half a chance to smother the ball.

[Clarence]

It’s been a slow start to the season but I think the combo of Boyle and Doidge will yield 10-15 goals between them and we’ll avoid relegation - stop panicking everyone!

[Squirrel 1875]

People going overboard saying Doidge is getting it too tight. Last I checked he was being criticized, fairly, for missing several gilt-edged chances. This team is choc-full of average joes signed at expense and on three-year deals thanks to the sheer incompetence of the management team. Shocking that Heckingbottom has been allowed to continue with this club.

Fingers crossed Barnsley come in for him...

[Squirrel 1875]

It’s been a slow start to the season but I think the combo of Boyle and Doidge will yield 10-15 goals between them and we’ll avoid relegation - stop panicking everyone!

Avoid relegation. Even just avoiding relegation is reason to panic. We should be challenging for Europe, anything less is failure. Ambition. Hibs fans sorely need some.

[Golden Bear]

Doidge is no different from any other player in so far as they're more likely to respond in a positive manner to encouragement than criticism, whether that be online or from the stands. It might be worth a try.

[Clarence]

Avoid relegation. Even just avoiding relegation is reason to panic. We should be challenging for Europe, anything less is failure. Ambition. Hibs fans sorely need some.

I was being sarcastic. The sad thing is we used to expect our strikers to score every other game, now a goal from them is a collector’s item. I think the club will be happy to offload Kamberi in jan and see Doidge and Boyle score a few to hopefully keep us in the league whilst their poorly thought out experiment in how to do things on the cheap fizzles out. I think the board’s experience with Lennon has led them to appoint someone who is easy to deal with rather than challenging (as Lennon was) but those qualities ultimately make him a poor leader. PH might have the best ideas in the world but he lacks the ability to realise them. He looks bamboozled and disorientated at the start of post match interviews and the words that follow do little to prove otherwise.

Hopefully Ron G doesn’t let this go on too long as all the good work that has happened post 2014 will be lost.

[NorthNorfolkHFC]

I think this is spot on. You wouldn’t for example play Mixu up front on his own.

Doidge might be good at linking the play - I’m not convinced as yet - but it doesn’t appear he can play as a lone striker who we rely on for goals.

If our midfield start weighing in with chances we won’t need to rely on him for all of our goals.


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[Danderhall Hibs]

They get worse and worse:

Miss 1 is a tricky chance and the keeper is out fast.
Miss 2 I don't think he regains his balance.
Miss 3 oh dear.
Miss 4 ffs.

I thought this was a decent analysis of the chances...

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/latest-hibs-news/breaking-down-the-big-chances-missed-by-hibs-striker-christian-doidge-at-aberdeen-1-5019295

Basically agrees with you.

[mcfly]

He has no confidence but he really is awful.

No conviction, very slow and how many chances does he need?

Sorry but a complete waste of money.

[ancient hibee]

Michael Stewart said he doesn’t think quickly enough and I’m sure that’s why he didn’t look for Allan.Allan of course gave him a ten yard start and was level with him in the box.

[The_Horde]

Michael Stewart said he doesn’t think quickly enough and I’m sure that’s why he didn’t look for Allan.Allan of course gave him a ten yard start and was level with him in the box.

He's bang on. Takes too many touches before contemplating the next stage and doesn't have a picture in his mind of what he's going to do.

[Unseen work]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/latest-hibs-news/breaking-down-the-big-chances-missed-by-hibs-striker-christian-doidge-at-aberdeen-1-5019295

Good analysis of the missed chances

[Ray_]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/latest-hibs-news/breaking-down-the-big-chances-missed-by-hibs-striker-christian-doidge-at-aberdeen-1-5019295

Good analysis of the missed chances

I get it if the reporter was assessing his own possibility of scoring from the chances, a natural scorer like Joe McBride SNR would have got all four. Don't expect that from all No 9's but not squaring to Allan is totally indefensible for a person who is supposed to be part of a team, given the score at the time and the way the game was going.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

His name doesn’t rhyme,
His name doesn’t rhyme,
Christian Doige
His name doesn’t rhyme. ;)

[JimBHibees]

He has no confidence but he really is awful.

No conviction, very slow and how many chances does he need?

Sorry but a complete waste of money.

Don't think he is awful at all. He has done well in recent games with winning headers and holding ball up. He has a goal scoring pedigree so just a bad day and him feeling the pressur. Needs a break in front of goals and fans to support him also.

[J-C]

Don't think he is awful at all. He has done well in recent games with winning headers and holding ball up. He has a goal scoring pedigree so just a bad day and him feeling the pressur. Needs a break in front of goals and fans to support him also.


In a really poor league.

I mentioned earlier in the thread that he has little game intelligence and Michael Stewart has just said the same, he'll score tap ins but don't expect him to score the chances he had on saturday, Flo and Shaw would've scored them though nut we didn't pay nigh on £350K or whatever ridiculous price we did for him and that's why Heckingbottom is starting him over our other strikers. He's a stubborn manager who'll keep playing Doidge just to prove a point.

[JimBHibees]

In a really poor league.

I mentioned earlier in the thread that he has little game intelligence and Michael Stewart has just said the same, he'll score tap ins but don't expect him to score the chances he had on saturday, Flo and Shaw would've scored them though.

Poor league or not he has scored goals and will have taken one or two of the chances he missed on Saturday. Both Oli and Flo have missed chances also. He did well to get in the position but showed little compusure.

[J-C]

Poor league or not he has scored goals and will have taken one or two of the chances he missed on Saturday. Both Oli and Flo have missed chances also. He did well to get in the position but showed little compusure.


You can try to butter him up as much as you want, he's still piss.

[calumhibee1]

In a really poor league.

I mentioned earlier in the thread that he has little game intelligence and Michael Stewart has just said the same, he'll score tap ins but don't expect him to score the chances he had on saturday, Flo and Shaw would've scored them though nut we didn't pay nigh on £350K or whatever ridiculous price we did for him and that's why Heckingbottom is starting him over our other strikers. He's a stubborn manager who'll keep playing Doidge just to prove a point.

Even taking Doidge out the equation, Oli Shaw has missed god knows how many decent chances since he last scored. I know he doesn’t really get a look in anymore but people were slating him for it when he was getting a chance. I agree Flo would have scored them though.

[calumhibee1]

Poor league or not he has scored goals and will have taken one or two of the chances he missed on Saturday. Both Oli and Flo have missed chances also. He did well to get in the position but showed little compusure.

That’s the way I look at it. He looks to have done well on Saturday, apart from obviously missing his four chances. Just getting into the position to be one-on-one with the goalie is an improvement on what we’ve had this season. Of course putting the ball in the net is why he’s here, so that is a huge issue, but he’s scored plenty goals in his career. If he can keep getting chances then I’ve no doubt in my mind he’ll start putting some away.

[mcfly]

It’s misses like his that will get his manager sacked.

He had at least 2 excellent chances on sat and bottled it both times.

That is not what we need right now, he has to take his chances next time or he will have to be moved on. We are toiling right now as a team and he has to step up.

He missed sitters v st Mirren as well.

Waste of money

[Allant1981]

In a really poor league.

I mentioned earlier in the thread that he has little game intelligence and Michael Stewart has just said the same, he'll score tap ins but don't expect him to score the chances he had on saturday, Flo and Shaw would've scored them though nut we didn't pay nigh on £350K or whatever ridiculous price we did for him and that's why Heckingbottom is starting him over our other strikers. He's a stubborn manager who'll keep playing Doidge just to prove a point.

He is that stubborn that he dropped doidge for a bit and was playing kamberi instead, good one

[J-C]

Even taking Doidge out the equation, Oli Shaw has missed god knows how many decent chances since he last scored. I know he doesn’t really get a look in anymore but people were slating him for it when he was getting a chance. I agree Flo would have scored them though.

He has played around 27 mins football this season, someone posted on the Shaw thread, is that really enough time to score goals or get consistency, get a grip ffs.

[calumhibee1]

He has played around 27 mins football this season, someone posted on the Shaw thread, is that really enough time to score goals or get consistency, get a grip ffs.

Did you even read my post? :confused:

I acknowledged he didn’t get a look in anymore, I never said he is currently not scoring goals.. because he isn’t getting a game, so of course he wouldn’t be. It doesn’t change the fact that when he was getting a look in previously he was missing chance after chance.. and then he fell further and further out the picture, presumably because of that.

Let’s not make out like Shaw was a cert to finish they chances. He was missing similar before he fell out the picture.

[SunshineOnLeith]

Bet the same people saying "he played well apart from missing four sitters" are the same people who complained that Stokes and Cummings offered nothing except goals.

[angus hibby]

It’s misses like his that will get his manager sacked.

He had at least 2 excellent chances on sat and bottled it both times.

That is not what we need right now, he has to take his chances next time or he will have to be moved on. We are toiling right now as a team and he has to step up.

He missed sitters v st Mirren as well.

Waste of money

So what do we need right now? Aguero? Salah? Guess what, I've seen them miss 1v1's plenty of times.

[J-C]

He is that stubborn that he dropped doidge for a bit and was playing kamberi instead, good one

He played Kamberi at the start because he was the established striker, instead of changing tactics to get the best out of him, all he's done is change striker.

[calumhibee1]

Bet the same people saying "he played well apart from missing four sitters" are the same people who complained that Stokes and Cummings offered nothing except goals.

I didn’t see the game so I’m only basing it on the highlights but I’m one of they people. I was however a MASSIVE fan of Cummings and to a lesser extent, also a fan of Stokes.

[Allant1981]

He played Kamberi at the start because he was the established striker, instead of changing tactics to get the best out of him, all he's done is change striker.

Now you are just making stuff up, kamberi was only dropped a couple of weeks ago

[J-C]

Did you even read my post? :confused:

I acknowledged he didn’t get a look in anymore, I never said he is currently not scoring goals.. because he isn’t getting a game, so of course he wouldn’t be. It doesn’t change the fact that when he was getting a look in previously he was missing chance after chance.. and then he fell further and further out the picture, presumably because of that.

Let’s not make out like Shaw was a cert to finish they chances. He was missing similar before he fell out the picture.

Shaw has one of the best goals to minutes ratio around, the fact themat he and other very good youngsters are getting sidelined for piss signings says it all about our manager.

[hibsbollah]

He has played around 27 mins football this season, someone posted on the Shaw thread, is that really enough time to score goals or get consistency, get a grip ffs.

He's not talking about this season, obviously. Shaw has been culpable for a load of glaring misses, especially last season. Thread upon thread about him on here. I like him personally, and insisted we show a bit of patience just like I am with Doidge, but let's not reinvent history. Shaw showed a lot of nice work in and around the box but has a mental block when it comes to finishing easy chances.

There's no easy answers

[J-C]

Now you are just making stuff up, kamberi was only dropped a couple of weeks ago

Have tactics changed, no.

Have the strikers changed, yes.

Are we now winning games, no.

Only difference I can see is we are playing with a bit more belief and more fight which makes us harder to beat. Still lacking pace and a bit more guile.

[Allant1981]

Have tactics changed, no.

Have the strikers changed, yes.

Are we now winning games, no.

Only difference I can see is we are playing with a bit more belief and more fight which makes us harder to beat. Still lacking pace and a bit more guile.


That's completely different your original point though, you claimed he was to stubborn a manager to drop doidge, he has only just started playing him from the start, kamberi was starting games and done nothing so was dropped. So what you said was wrong, this next statement I agree with completely but let's not make things up

[calumhibee1]

Shaw has one of the best goals to minutes ratio around, the fact themat he and other very good youngsters are getting sidelined for piss signings says it all about our manager.

He does. And the more he played the more that ratio was dwindling. Shaws recent history on the pitch (which of course is mostly not this season) would suggest he was far from a cert to finish any of they chances. I mean he’s only scored 4 goals in the last 14 months.

I can’t remember who we were playing but there was a game at ER where he had an inexcusable fresh air swipe at an easy chance in the middle of the box and also missed another sitter that game - in my head it was similar to Doidges third chance on sat but I’d be happy to be proved wrong with that one as I’m not 100%.

Doidge will miss chances. So will our other forwards. Shaw more than anybody has shown that over the last calendar year especially.

[J-C]

That's completely different your original point though, you claimed he was to stubborn a manager to drop doidge, he has only just started playing him from the start, kamberi was starting games and done nothing so was dropped. So what you said was wrong, this next statement I agree with completely but let's not make things up

Tactics piss by lumping balls high to Flo which isn't his game, add Hallberg and get Vela a lot fitter and we start playing the ball on the deck, so let's now play Doidge uwho isn't near the technical player Flo is.

Our manager is tactically inept and stubborn.

[Tyler Durden]

He does. And the more he played the more that ratio was dwindling. Shaws recent history on the pitch (which of course is mostly not this season) would suggest he was far from a cert to finish any of they chances. I mean he’s only scored 4 goals in the last 14 months.

I can’t remember who we were playing but there was a game at ER where he had an inexcusable fresh air swipe at an easy chance in the middle of the box and also missed another sitter that game - in my head it was similar to Doidges third chance on sat but I’d be happy to be proved wrong with that one as I’m not 100%.

Doidge will miss chances. So will our other forwards. Shaw more than anybody has shown that over the last calendar year especially.

I wouldn’t necessarily be calling for Shaw to get a start but let’s be honest, Heckingbottom has never given him a chance. He hasn’t started a single league game.

He had that great sub appearance at St Mirren when Eddie May was in charge. He then started the next 2 games against Aberdeen and Celtic and scored 1 in 2. He hasn’t started since.

Some will assume that the manager is right and he mustn’t do enough in training. I’d be in the camp that the manager hasn’t given him a fair chance and simply isn’t getting the best from the players he has.

[calumhibee1]

I wouldn’t necessarily be calling for Shaw to get a start but let’s be honest, Heckingbottom has never given him a chance. He hasn’t started a single league game.

He had that great sub appearance at St Mirren when Eddie May was in charge. He then started the next 2 games against Aberdeen and Celtic and scored 1 in 2. He hasn’t started since.

Some will assume that the manager is right and he mustn’t do enough in training. I’d be in the camp that the manager hasn’t given him a fair chance and simply isn’t getting the best from the players he has.

He maybe does deserve a chance, I won’t necessarily disagree with that completely. I do disagree with the idea that he would have definitely tucked away Doidges chances on Saturday or even that he’s necessarily a better finisher than Doidge. He’s missed plenty like that of his own.

[The_Horde]

Bet the same people saying "he played well apart from missing four sitters" are the same people who complained that Stokes and Cummings offered nothing except goals.

I just wonder if they'd be saying the same thing about any opposition striker in the league missing 4 one on ones with our keeper.

My prediction is we'd be "lucky their striker was pish"

[Captain Trips]

Lets be honest here the whole situation is a big pile of pish I really cannot believe we are having the discussions and chats we were having 7-10yrs ago about players and managers. Im not interested in salavge jobs we are in danger of a ***** season league wise and if we do swap manager I expect performances to improve greatly no excuses.

[MacGruber]

I just wonder if they'd be saying the same thing about any opposition striker in the league missing 4 one on ones with our keeper.

My prediction is we'd be "lucky their striker was pish"

Might have said we were lucky that striker never had his shooting boots on and our goalie played a blinder - just aswell because we couldn't handle his movement, clever and mobile for a big lad, holds the ball up and wins his fair share in the air. Missed a few sitters today but can see him going on to score a barrowload - one to watch for bringing in next season 😁

[angus hibby]

I just wonder if they'd be saying the same thing about any opposition striker in the league missing 4 one on ones with our keeper.

My prediction is we'd be "lucky their striker was pish"


Is that what you said after Conrad's debut in the semi final or did you rave about our goalkeepers performance?

[The_Horde]

Is that what you said after Conrad's debut in the semi final or did you rave about our goalkeepers performance?

A bit of both, I remember asking my mates what happened to Billy Mackay. But I was also delighted we had a keeper who could make a save, after a year of watching Oxley do the Brian Kerr role.

[MacGruber]

After the frustrations and anger of the weekend have eased off I've now decided to back our No.9 Christian Doidge.

£10 with anyone that he reaches a minimum of 15 goals this season. Have some of that.

Gon yersel big Doidgey.

Doidgey
Doidgey
Doidgey
Doidgey
Na na na na na






*known for reneging on bets and promises..

[Captain Trips]

He had better score more than Hans Eskillson did in this league or he can eff off.

[Callum_62]

[emoji682][emoji404]

Breaking down the big chances missed by Hibs striker Christian Doidge at Aberdeen

https://t.co/KklEjHK9N5 https://t.co/pLqeXsfR9V

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[Danderhall Hibs]

[emoji682][emoji404]

Breaking down the big chances missed by Hibs striker Christian Doidge at Aberdeen

https://t.co/KklEjHK9N5 https://t.co/pLqeXsfR9V

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It’s not new mate - it’s been posted 3 times now. It’s just being ignored.

Good article though.

[Ronniekirk]

[emoji682][emoji404]

Breaking down the big chances missed by Hibs striker Christian Doidge at Aberdeen

https://t.co/KklEjHK9N5 https://t.co/pLqeXsfR9V

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So in effect he ballsed up two of the four Opportunities


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[blackpoolhibs]

You can try to butter him up as much as you want, he's still piss.

Yip, we have signed a raft of players who are all a downgrade on previous years, and folk still think we've turned a corner and the future is rosy.

With this lot, nothing will be rosy, just more mind numbing pish week after week, its funny watching some folk squirm because they feel they have to back this clown no matter what because they wanted the last guy out. :faf:

[PaulSmith]

So in effect he ballsed up two of the four Opportunities


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Based on a journalists opinion which is doesn’t provide any context to the ability of the striker to actually convert them...


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[calumhibee1]

[emoji682][emoji404]

Breaking down the big chances missed by Hibs striker Christian Doidge at Aberdeen

https://t.co/KklEjHK9N5 https://t.co/pLqeXsfR9V

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Pretty much how I would see it. First two are chances that I wouldn’t expect any of our forwards to score - or any forwards in the league for that matter. If they do then the keeper is at fault for both them imo. Joe Lewis - and to a lesser extent Considine - have done what they needed to do.

The last two are very poor and he’s completely at fault.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Based on a journalists opinion which is doesn’t provide any context to the ability of the striker to actually convert them...


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Plenty seemed happy to accept the journalists point of view on the radio on Saturday? That clouded many judgements before they’d seen it for themselves imo.

[Scotty Leither]

In a really poor league.

I mentioned earlier in the thread that he has little game intelligence and Michael Stewart has just said the same, he'll score tap ins but don't expect him to score the chances he had on saturday, Flo and Shaw would've scored them though nut we didn't pay nigh on £350K or whatever ridiculous price we did for him and that's why Heckingbottom is starting him over our other strikers. He's a stubborn manager who'll keep playing Doidge just to prove a point.

Doidge cost £130k. Still too high a price for our return from a guy who is woefully out of his depth.

[The_Horde]

Pretty much how I would see it. First two are chances that I wouldn’t expect any of our forwards to score - or any forwards in the league for that matter. If they do then the keeper is at fault for both them imo. Joe Lewis - and to a lesser extent Considine - have done what they needed to do.

The last two are very poor and he’s completely at fault.

Your standards must be really low.

[SickBoy32]

Doidge cost £130k. Still too high a price for our return from a guy who is woefully out of his depth.

First I've seen of this figure, where did that come from?

[DH1875]

Doidge cost £130k. Still too high a price for our return from a guy who is woefully out of his depth.


Says who? I was also led to believe its closer to the £350k mark.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Says who? I was also led to believe its closer to the £350k mark.

Has any number been officially confirmed? Think the £350k started somewhere and has been spread - like the Griffiths for £150k.

[ancient hibee]

Never been confirmed by the club but is frequently quoted in the media.

[calumhibee1]

Your standards must be really low.

Not at all. If you think he should have scored the first two then fair enough. If Maxwell or Marciano had conceded from either of the first two situations I’d have been disappointed. The goalie was always favourite for they two imo.

Not that they’re opinion should be taken as gospel of course but the EEN article going about certainly seems to agree with that as well. Also reckons his runs were very good funnily enough.

[The_Horde]

Not at all. If you think he should have scored the first two then fair enough. If Maxwell or Marciano had conceded from either of the first two situations I’d have been disappointed. The goalie was always favourite for they two imo.

Not that they’re opinion should be taken as gospel of course but the EEN article going about certainly seems to agree with that as well. Also reckons his runs were very good funnily enough.

As I've already said, good strikers can and do.

[calumhibee1]

As I've already said, good strikers can and do.

Maybe you could present a case for that? Just kidding.

I’m sure some strikers do score them sometimes. But imo they wouldn’t score them the vast majority of times because the keeper was always heavily favourite. As I said I’d have been disappointed if either of our keepers had conceded from either the tight angle of the first chance with the goalie on top of him or the way Doidge was off balance with the ball stuck under him for the second. We’ll have to agree to disagree I suppose.

[The_Horde]

Maybe you could present a case for that? Just kidding.

I’m sure some strikers do score them sometimes. But imo they wouldn’t score them the vast majority of times because the keeper was always heavily favourite. We’ll have to agree to disagree I suppose.

Just scanned the evening news website, can't find any.

Have already provided one instance on the pm board.

[calumhibee1]

Just scanned the evening news website, can't find any.

Have already provided one instance on the pm board.

Like I said, I don’t doubt they’ve been tucked away before. Keepers heavily favourite though imo and I reckon you’re being incredibly harsh if you reckon otherwise but fair do’s.

[The_Horde]

Like I said, I don’t doubt they’ve been tucked away before. Keepers heavily favourite though imo and I reckon you’re being incredibly harsh if you reckon otherwise but fair do’s.

What I reckon is if he'd tried the right things when in those positions I'd have some semblance of hope that he would tuck one away eventually.

Moving his body around the ball to try and get it onto his strong foot, inviting the goalie to close the space is not that. And it happened more than once.

If the goalie was favourite, Doidge should've been trying to reduce the odds. He done the opposite.

[I_Love_Latapy]

That’s the way I look at it. He looks to have done well on Saturday, apart from obviously missing his four chances. Just getting into the position to be one-on-one with the goalie is an improvement on what we’ve had this season. Of course putting the ball in the net is why he’s here, so that is a huge issue, but he’s scored plenty goals in his career. If he can keep getting chances then I’ve no doubt in my mind he’ll start putting some away.

This

[hibsbollah]

It's worth bearing in mind Boyle is on his way back, probably by the end of the month. His pace should give us a new dynamic and he be an ideal foil for Doidge.

[BILLYHIBS]

I hope he does well and I think we all want him to succeed

I know why not play Doidge and Flo upfront together?

:dunno:


Simples!

[blackpoolhibs]

It's worth bearing in mind Boyle is on his way back, probably by the end of the month. His pace should give us a new dynamic and he be an ideal foil for Doidge.

He will need to put him through on goal more than 4 times at least before he might score or see someone in a much better position than him, all that while trying to get fit again.

[ancient hibee]

It's worth bearing in mind Boyle is on his way back, probably by the end of the month. His pace should give us a new dynamic and he be an ideal foil for Doidge.
Boyle will have time to have a cup of tea on the by line while waiting for Doidge to arrive.He can’t even keep up with Scott Allan.

[hibsbollah]

Boyle will have time to have a cup of tea on the by line while waiting for Doidge to arrive.He can’t even keep up with Scott Allan.

Clearly there is no hope at all for us then, I shouldn't even have mentioned it.

[SMAXXA]

Clearly there is no hope at all for us then, I shouldn't even have mentioned it.

I thought the pelters the guy was getting would have subsided by now and folk moved on. Fair play trying to put a positive lens on things 👍. As much as he’s had a poor start to his Hibs career I think he will come good just my personal feelings on it suppose i lack evidence on why we have seen so far mind.

[Hermit Crab]

The fact that Forrest Green sold him to us and this season they are currently top of the league with a goal difference of plus 8 tells you all we need to know about Doidge in the respect that they didn't need him and we've been sold a dizzy imo.

[B.H.F.C]

The fact that Forrest Green sold him to us and this season they are currently top of the league with a goal difference of plus 8 tells you all we need to know about Doidge in the respect that they didn't need him and we've been sold a dizzy imo.

The fact they’ve only scored 14 in 13 maybe shows they miss his goals. As pish as he’s been for us, he wasn’t pish for them.

[Hermit Crab]

The fact they’ve only scored 14 in 13 maybe shows they miss his goals. As pish as he’s been for us, he wasn’t pish for them.


They're top the league though? :confused:

[J-C]

The fact that Forrest Green sold him to us and this season they are currently top of the league with a goal difference of plus 8 tells you all we need to know about Doidge in the respect that they didn't need him and we've been sold a dizzy imo.


The fact they’ve only scored 14 in 13 maybe shows they miss his goals. As pish as he’s been for us, he wasn’t pish for them.


I'd say they're missing his goals, sitting 3rd and getting beat 1-0 today Exeter who are above them.

[J-C]

They're top the league though? :confused:


3rd and getting beat by the team in 2nd.

[B.H.F.C]

They're top the league though? :confused:

As things stand, they aren’t actually.

They did well with him, they’re doing well without him. I don’t think how they’re doing tells us everything we need to know.

[Brightside]

The fact that Forrest Green sold him to us and this season they are currently top of the league with a goal difference of plus 8 tells you all we need to know about Doidge in the respect that they didn't need him and we've been sold a dizzy imo.

That’s a great argument. 😂

[BILLYHIBS]

The fact that Forrest Green sold him to us and this season they are currently top of the league with a goal difference of plus 8 tells you all we need to know about Doidge in the respect that they didn't need him and we've been sold a dizzy imo.

Naw surely our excellent scouting team would have scouted him first and done their due diligence?

[Hermit Crab]

That’s a great argument. 😂


Surprised you never threw in a plug for Hanlon...

[Allant1981]

The fact that Forrest Green sold him to us and this season they are currently top of the league with a goal difference of plus 8 tells you all we need to know about Doidge in the respect that they didn't need him and we've been sold a dizzy imo.

More rubbish posts about doidge, it tells us nothing

[Since452]

The fact that Forrest Green sold him to us and this season they are currently top of the league with a goal difference of plus 8 tells you all we need to know about Doidge in the respect that they didn't need him and we've been sold a dizzy imo.

He was all set to join Bolton for millions before they went tits up

[CapitalGreen]

The fact that Forrest Green sold him to us and this season they are currently top of the league with a goal difference of plus 8 tells you all we need to know about Doidge in the respect that they didn't need him and we've been sold a dizzy imo.

The fact that Celtic sold van Dijk to Southampton and then for 4 seasons straight they won the league with numerous clean sheets tells you all we need to know about van Dijk in the respect that they didn't need him and Southampton were sold a dizzy imo.

[The 90+2]

He was all set to join Bolton for millions before they went tits up

Is it any surprise they went tits up then in that case? :greengrin

[FilipinoHibs]

He was all set to join Bolton for millions before they went tits up

One goal in 17 games there.

[tamig]

One goal in 17 games there.

And they still wanted to sign him.

[Franck Stanton]

Doidge will come good for us. Get a goal under his belt and that will settle him down. Think back, how many games was before Cummings scored for us? If I recall correctly 29 games before his 1st goal.

[Michael]

Doidge will come good for us. Get a goal under his belt and that will settle him down. Think back, how many games was before Cummings scored for us? If I recall correctly 29 games before his 1st goal.

Yeah but Cummings wasn't 27

[Squirrel 1875]

Doidge will come good for us. Get a goal under his belt and that will settle him down. Think back, how many games was before Cummings scored for us? If I recall correctly 29 games before his 1st goal.

Cummings didn’t cost £350k.

[Robbo6-2]

Hes up town again the night

[The 90+2]

And they still wanted to sign him.

Says more about the basket case that was Bolton than anything else.

[BoltonHibee]

And they still wanted to sign him.

They were never going to sign him [emoji23]


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[Heisenberg]

Hes up town again the night

Hope he has a good night. Likely had the weekend off.

[Hermit Crab]

Hes up town again the night


On his tod?

[Here’s Lucy!]

The fact that Forrest Green sold him to us and this season they are currently top of the league with a goal difference of plus 8 tells you all we need to know about Doidge in the respect that they didn't need him and we've been sold a dizzy imo.

Once again, you are spot on. Sold a pig in a poke, we were. He is absolutely tripe.


More rubbish posts about doidge, it tells us nothing

Oh yes it does. Forrest Green (who the f are they anyway?) are laughing up their green sleeves, having palmed off this dud to ‘a wee club in Scotlandshire’. Think about it.


He was all set to join Bolton for millions before they went tits up

Yes, so he was.

[Here’s Lucy!]

Hes up town again the night

Getting even fatter, one assumes?

[skyhibs]

Hes up town again the night

whats the chance of him scoring

[tamig]

Once again, you are spot on. Sold a pig in a poke, we were. He is absolutely tripe.



Oh yes it does. Forrest Green (who the f are they anyway?) are laughing up their green sleeves, having palmed off this dud to ‘a wee club in Scotlandshire’. Think about it.



Yes, so he was.

What drivel.

[Hiber-nation]

Getting even fatter, one assumes?

What on earth are you talking about this time?

[matty_f]

Getting even fatter, one assumes?

Bolt with that pish.

[Heckys Wheel]

What on earth are you talking about this time?

Attention seeking

[MWHIBBIES]

Hes up town again the night

Very unprofessional. Hoped we were done signing dafties like this.

[Heisenberg]

Very unprofessional. Hoped we were done signing dafties like this.

Are you being serious? 😂

[JimBHibees]

Very unprofessional. Hoped we were done signing dafties like this.

Really ? surely allowed some downtime when we don't have a game for a week.

[Allant1981]

Very unprofessional. Hoped we were done signing dafties like this.

He is a daftie for allegedly having a night out?

[Captain Trips]

Right the guy had a nightmare fair enough we all know it as does he.

Yeah if he had done his job it is likely we would have won however the amount of mistakes being made by the defence at the club since season started is far worse.

I'm drawing a line under his performance however I expect better in next match if he fails again this thread will appear tame.

[calumhibee1]

He is a daftie for allegedly having a night out?

He’s a ****bag. Hecky also. They missed chances and made a sub that cost us the game once. Absolutely disgraceful and their families should be ashamed of them.

[BILLYHIBS]

Right the guy had a nightmare fair enough we all know it as does he.

Yeah if he had done his job it is likely we would have won however the amount of mistakes being made by the defence at the club since season started is far worse.

I'm drawing a line under his performance however I expect better in next match if he fails again this thread will appear tame.

:aok:

[SHODAN]

Really ? surely allowed some downtime when we don't have a game for a week.

I'm gravitating more toward the opinion that all professional footballers should follow the example set by Kane et al and not drink during the season.

[ian cruise]

I'm gravitating more toward the opinion that all professional footballers should follow the example set by Kane et al and not drink during the season.

Is agree with this but let's remember that there is no actual proof he was out getting steaming, or even having a beer or two. I'd he was out he could have been on the colas for all we know. Funny how the posts said "again" but to the best of my knowledge there's no flurry of posts from folk saying they see him out all the time as we did with Collins et al (and even then it was contested at the time whether Collins actually was a drinker even though he was regularly seen out on the town), Graham Stack was definitely a George St regular but that was ok because he was a decent player for us.

I'm just saying let's not have this "Doidge is always out getting steaming" turn in to another .net or bounce "fact"

[jeffers]

I'm gravitating more toward the opinion that all professional footballers should follow the example set by Kane et al and not drink during the season.

If he was performing better then a night out would be less likely to be scrutinised, but I agree with you. Is it so hard to show some discipline and avoid alcohol during the season.

[B.H.F.C]

If he was performing better then a night out would be less likely to be scrutinised, but I agree with you. Is it so hard to show some discipline and avoid alcohol during the season.

The top players make the sacrifices. But it’s probably easier for them when they basically play every few days for the whole season. Players at our level, with time on their hands will act like guys in their 20 every now and again, especially when they’re away from home and things like that.

I’d hazard a guess that the players that do get big moves from Scotland, like McGinn and Tierney, probably looked after themselves better than most of the other players up here, as well as being more talented.

[jeffers]

Is agree with this but let's remember that there is no actual proof he was out getting steaming, or even having a beer or two. I'd he was out he could have been on the colas for all we know. Funny how the posts said "again" but to the best of my knowledge there's no flurry of posts from folk saying they see him out all the time as we did with Collins et al (and even then it was contested at the time whether Collins actually was a drinker even though he was regularly seen out on the town), Graham Stack was definitely a George St regular but that was ok because he was a decent player for us.

I'm just saying let's not have this "Doidge is always out getting steaming" turn in to another .net or bounce "fact"

Doidge is out regulary enough. One of the few posters I know personally on here posted a pic of him out after the Celtic game (along with half a dozen team mates tbf.) I also heard another story from someone who would know that doesn't paint him in a good light regarding going out drinking after games.

I'm not saying he gets steaming because I don't know (although it wasn't a glass of cola in his hand in the pic I referred to.) Like I said if he was performing better it would be less likely to be picked up on.

[bigwheel]

It’s a symptom of how mad this place is just now that some random post suggesting Doidge is up town - no evidence of whether it is true not...whether he is drinking alcohol or not ..has people reflecting that he should perhaps drink less alcohol .

[hibsbollah]

It’s a symptom of how mad this place is just now that some random post suggesting Doidge is up town - no evidence of whether it is true not...whether he is drinking alcohol or not ..has people reflecting that he should perhaps drink less alcohol .

:agree: it's total bollocks. You can socialise in a pub until late without drinking excess alcohol :dunno: Certainly no worse for the body than sitting playing fifa for hours on end.

It's just another boring excuse to take a pop.

[Allant1981]

He’s a ****bag. Hecky also. They missed chances and made a sub that cost us the game once. Absolutely disgraceful and their families should be ashamed of them.

😁

[B.H.F.C]

:agree: it's total bollocks. You can socialise in a pub until late without drinking excess alcohol :dunno: Certainly no worse for the body than sitting playing fifa for hours on end.

It's just another boring excuse to take a pop.

I remember going to one of the East Mains visits a few years back when the sports science guy did a talk.

One of the things he mentioned was that a lot of people think it’s fine to go out as long as they aren’t drinking. He basically said that’s wrong and spoke about the importance of sleep and total rest for an athlete, that even just being out to 11 at night could be detrimental to them.

[Franck Stanton]

Yeah but Cummings wasn't 27

Typical .net, always someone looking for an argument. The point I was/am making is sometimes players take time to settled into a new club/ system. Especially strikers, when they go for a few games without scoring they then rush shots, headers Etc not slating Cummings by any means just reminding everyone how long it can take to settle in.

[BILLYHIBS]

Cummings went 16 games without scoring scoring a double in his 17th a playoff victory away to Hamilton

[Here’s Lucy!]

Bolt with that pish.

My mistake. I got a wee bit confused and thought it was Jason Cummings who had been spotted uptown.

Genuine mistake on my part, sorry.

[Here’s Lucy!]

What drivel.

How is it drivel? Please explain that, rather than just dissing my opinion.

Forrest Green are doing rather well without him and have 350K in the bank into the bargain.

[Beefster]

When I was 27, I was out two or three times a week. I was ****ing awesome at my job though. If I had been crap at it, I would have stayed in the house watching Beechgrove Garden or whatever you puritans watch for fun.

[superfurryhibby]

How is it drivel? Please explain that, rather than just dissing my opinion.

Forrest Green are doing rather well without him and have 350K in the bank into the bargain.

350,000k, lol. The new hibs.net myth.

[hibsbollah]

I remember going to one of the East Mains visits a few years back when the sports science guy did a talk.

One of the things he mentioned was that a lot of people think it’s fine to go out as long as they aren’t drinking. He basically said that’s wrong and spoke about the importance of sleep and total rest for an athlete, that even just being out to 11 at night could be detrimental to them.

That sports science guy is clearly correct. But a) someone can enjoy going out socialising and still get more sleep and rest, and be better prepared for a game than his teammate who is playing games consoles till 3am (very common occurrence among pros) and b) all this 'out late' chat is still based on hearsay on.net of Doidge being 'out' one or two times. What time was it? No one on a message board knows what he drinks, when he drinks or what time he goes to bed. It's just an extension of pretending to be ITK.

[B.H.F.C]

That sports science guy is clearly correct. But a) someone can enjoy going out socialising and still get more sleep and rest, and be better prepared for a game than his teammate who is playing games consoles till 3am (very common occurrence among pros) and b) all this 'out late' chat is still based on hearsay on.net of Doidge being 'out' one or two times. What time was it? No one on a message board knows what he drinks, when he drinks or what time he goes to bed. It's just an extension of pretending to be ITK.

I was just pointing it out generally, rather in relation to Doidge.

In the first example you give, that doesn’t necessarily mean that the player going out is doing things right, just that the person playing the console is doing it even more wrong.

Go back a few years ago and you had three boys that were best mates. Henderson, McGinn and Cummings. One was regularly seen in the town, the other two weren’t. One now plays in the Premier League and one plays in Serie A. The other plays for Shrewsbury. That’s just one example but maybe the sacrifice do make the difference.

Not entirely sure why I’m arguing the point because I don’t have a clue what anybody does with their time. It just felt different a few years back. It felt like everybody bought in to everything and was doing everything they could to improve the club, whereas it doesn’t feel like that now.

[Here’s Lucy!]

350,000k, lol. The new hibs.net myth.

And you know it’s a myth how?

[MWHIBBIES]

Really ? surely allowed some downtime when we don't have a game for a week.


Are you being serious? 😂


He is a daftie for allegedly having a night out?

Don't care. Professional athletes shouldn't be drinking a lot of alcohol. If he wasn't then fair enough but if he was and consistently does then he is unprofessional. He is payed very good money to take care of himself.

[Allant1981]

Don't care. Professional athletes shouldn't be drinking a lot of alcohol. If he wasn't then fair enough but if he was and consistently does then he is unprofessional. He is payed very good money to take care of himself.

So you still dont know if he was but will have a pop anyway, no bother

[Here’s Lucy!]

Don't care. Professional athletes shouldn't be drinking a lot of alcohol. If he wasn't then fair enough but if he was and consistently does then he is unprofessional. He is payed very good money to take care of himself.

Got to say, I agree entirely with you on this one.

Shame a lot of footballers don’t see it that way. You only have to think about George Street, Rose Street etc. on most Saturday nights a few years ago to see that they don’t.

It’s a short, and well paid career, and one they should embrace rather than abuse.

[cmcd]

Got to say, I agree entirely with you on this one.

Shame a lot of footballers don’t see it that way. You only have to think about George Street, Rose Street etc. on most Saturday nights a few years ago to see that they don’t.

It’s a short, and well paid career, and one they should embrace rather than abuse.
Willie Hamilton liked a drink but was one of the best footballers I have seen at ER

[MWHIBBIES]

So you still dont know if he was but will have a pop anyway, no bother

Same goes for any footballer really. I've not really said anything mindblowing. If he was being unprofessional, he is unprofessional. If not, thats good.

[Peevemor]

Got to say, I agree entirely with you on this one.

Shame a lot of footballers don’t see it that way. You only have to think about George Street, Rose Street etc. on most Saturday nights a few years ago to see that they don’t.

It’s a short, and well paid career, and one they should embrace rather than abuse.You mention what went on "a few years ago" to criticise today's players?

[Hibbyradge]

Doidge is always out getting steaming

That's shocking. Not only is he supposed to be a professional athlete, he's also a role model.

We should punt him asap. :agree:

[Hibbyradge]

350,000k, lol. The new hibs.net myth.

You're scoffing.

How much did we pay for him?

[Allant1981]

Same goes for any footballer really. I've not really said anything mindblowing. If he was being unprofessional, he is unprofessional. If not, thats good.

Is having a drink unprofessional?

[cmcd]

I C how do you know he's out getting steaming ??

[Allant1981]

I C how do you know he's out getting steaming ??

They dont but it's another reason to have a pop at the guy

[Since452]

When I was 27, I was out two or three times a week. I was ****ing awesome at my job though. If I had been crap at it, I would have stayed in the house watching Beechgrove Garden or whatever you puritans watch for fun.

Personally feel life is too short. If the guy wants a night out during the international break then fair enough. Heckingbottom has said that players need to work hard to get (and stay) in the team so he obviously is.

[tamig]

How is it drivel? Please explain that, rather than just dissing my opinion.

Forrest Green are doing rather well without him and have 350K in the bank into the bargain.

“Sold a pig in a poke.”

“Forest Green laughing up their green sleeves.”

“Sold to a wee team in Scotlandshire.”

All very immature, disrespectful and drivel imo.

Forest Green doing ok but missing the big man’s goals.

Genuine question. Doidge got a lot of plaudits after the Celtic game. Were you calling him tripe then? The guy gets next to no slack on here and after missing the chances last Saturday it was inevitable how things were going to go.

[Smartie]

“Sold a pig in a poke.”

“Forest Green laughing up their green sleeves.”

“Sold to a wee team in Scotlandshire.”

All very immature, disrespectful and drivel imo.

Forest Green doing ok but missing the big man’s goals.

Genuine question. Doidge got a lot of plaudits after the Celtic game. Were you calling him tripe then? The guy gets next to no slack on here and after missing the chances last Saturday it was inevitable how things were going to go.

He's also been unlucky in that with it being the international break we've had to go over old ground for 2 weeks.

Doidge really needed a game 3 days later, to get an early goal in that game and for everyone to move on instead of wallow in misery.

[MWHIBBIES]

Is having a drink unprofessional?

As a professional athlete, it is IMO

[Since452]

“Sold a pig in a poke.”

“Forest Green laughing up their green sleeves.”

“Sold to a wee team in Scotlandshire.”

All very immature, disrespectful and drivel imo.

Forest Green doing ok but missing the big man’s goals.

Genuine question. Doidge got a lot of plaudits after the Celtic game. Were you calling him tripe then? The guy gets next to no slack on here and after missing the chances last Saturday it was inevitable how things were going to go.

100% agree. He was arguably MOTM against Celtic. Although it was frustrating against Aberdeen at least he got in to a position to have numerous chances. On another day he'd have walked away with the match ball. Personally feel he's really starting to play well now he's settled in and wouldn't surprise me if he scores a few in the coming games. Opinions eh!

[Unseen work]

What a load of nonsense.

Of course he is allowed a night out, who even says he was drinking? And if he was how much did he have? Was he drunk?

If he was drunk it’s no problem as long as he’s not getting into trouble of becoming a regular occurrence which then effects his performances.

Mallan was out last weekend for his birds birthday? Is that not allowed all of a sudden?

Many players stay in and get steaming which no one will ever find out about.

Doidge is a fit guy who works his balls off and certainly on the pitch has showed a great attitude, it’s his finishing that’s the problem and in doubt.

You would assume hibs are fine with this given it’s the international break so I fail to see how it’s a problem for fans.

Maradona used to go on 3 day drink and cocaine filled binges and still manage to play and be the best player in the world on a Sunday.

I get everyone is down and moany right now with our league position but bloody hell, let’s relax a bit it’s a player going out for a drink on a Saturday during the international break.

[B.H.F.C]

What a load of nonsense.

Of course he is allowed a night out, who even says he was drinking? And if he was how much did he have? Was he drunk?

If he was drunk it’s no problem as long as he’s not getting into trouble of becoming a regular occurrence which then effects his performances.

Mallan was out last weekend for his birds birthday? Is that not allowed all of a sudden?

Many players stay in and get steaming which no one will ever find out about.

Doidge is a fit guy who works his balls off and certainly on the pitch has showed a great attitude, it’s his finishing that’s the problem and in doubt.

You would assume hibs are fine with this given it’s the international break so I fail to see how it’s a problem for fans.

Maradona used to go on 3 day drink and cocaine filled binges and still manage to play and be the best player in the world on a Sunday.

I get everyone is down and moany right now with our league position but bloody hell, let’s relax a bit it’s a player going out for a drink on a Saturday during the international break.

I don’t think anybody is saying he’s not allowed to do it. But there is a valid argument, generally, about whether or not it allows players to maximise their performance and potential.

In this day and age, I’m pretty sure the ones who do make the sacrifices are the ones that reach the top. And that’s probably not unique to football.

[LaMotta]

What a load of nonsense.

Of course he is allowed a night out, who even says he was drinking? And if he was how much did he have? Was he drunk?

If he was drunk it’s no problem as long as he’s not getting into trouble of becoming a regular occurrence which then effects his performances.

Mallan was out last weekend for his birds birthday? Is that not allowed all of a sudden?

Many players stay in and get steaming which no one will ever find out about.

Doidge is a fit guy who works his balls off and certainly on the pitch has showed a great attitude, it’s his finishing that’s the problem and in doubt.

You would assume hibs are fine with this given it’s the international break so I fail to see how it’s a problem for fans.

Maradona used to go on 3 day drink and cocaine filled binges and still manage to play and be the best player in the world on a Sunday.

I get everyone is down and moany right now with our league position but bloody hell, let’s relax a bit it’s a player going out for a drink on a Saturday during the international break.

:agree::agree::agree:

Its complete drivel that players shouldnt be allowed to go out and have a drink.

If you can handle it then its fine and can have no negative effect on performances.

The midweek before we pumped Hearts 6 -2 i seen Matty Jack, Mixu and Latapy downing drinks and smoking fags in Eros Elite nightclub. Matty Jack assured me we would win the derby, and he was spot on with that.

Mixu and Latapy put in 2 of the greatest derby performances ever seen on the Sunday so lets stop pretending that players cant have a drink ever.

[superfurryhibby]

You're scoffing.

How much did we pay for him?

Who knows, but the 350,000 fee has become the default for those who love to slate Doidge and Hibs. In reality, no one has a clue, but It won’t stop them quoting it. I find that quite laughable really.

As for the speculative drink talk, equally ridic, some people need to get off these boards and get a life, tragic.

[Allant1981]

As a professional athlete, it is IMO

Personally dont see a problem with it if it's not done to the extreme, if it was having an impact on his training or performances then yes I would agree but cant see how having a drink when you possibly have no training for a few days or game for a few days would be an issue

[MWHIBBIES]

I love that people use players playing in Scotland as an example of drinking being fine, an absolute awful league with a national team that consistently look unfit and 2nd best.

You think Andy Robertson is going out regularly and getting drunk? Or smoking?
How about Andy Murray?

Its not just talent that takes these guys to the top, its professionalism as well.

A glass of wine with a nice dinner? A special occassion? Sure. Regularly drinking and getting pished, even once a month, is unprofessional and detrimental to your physical ability.

[tamig]

I love that people use players playing in Scotland as an example of drinking being fine, an absolute awful league with a national team that consistently look unfit and 2nd best.

You think Andy Robertson is going out regularly and getting drunk? Or smoking?
How about Andy Murray?

Its not just talent that takes these guys to the top, its professionalism as well.

A glass of wine with a nice dinner? A special occassion? Sure. Regularly drinking and getting pished, even once a month, is unprofessional and detrimental to your physical ability.
I think we need to take a step back. One poster mentioned he’d spotted Doidge up the town. That was it. I’ve not seen anything to suggest he was pished or even drinking alcohol. The guy seems to be an easy target though.

[Tyler Durden]

Who knows, but the 350,000 fee has become the default for those who love to slate Doidge and Hibs. In reality, no one has a clue, but It won’t stop them quoting it. I find that quite laughable really.

As for the speculative drink talk, equally ridic, some people need to get off these boards and get a life, tragic.

The press are generally not far wrong with the fees they quote for a new signing. At the time of signing the BBC quoted “a fee in excess of £250k” and Hecky said the signing “was a statement of intent”.

You might think that people are slating him but it is relevant that he signed for a big fee, relative to Hibs. And he was expected to come in and make a big impact - that’s something the manager sign posted himself. So people are hardly being unfair when they mention the fee, even if nobody know exactly what it was. Doidge is falling short of expectations and he needs to improve.

[hibsbollah]

I love that people use players playing in Scotland as an example of drinking being fine, an absolute awful league with a national team that consistently look unfit and 2nd best.

You think Andy Robertson is going out regularly and getting drunk? Or smoking?
How about Andy Murray?

Its not just talent that takes these guys to the top, its professionalism as well.

A glass of wine with a nice dinner? A special occassion? Sure. Regularly drinking and getting pished, even once a month, is unprofessional and detrimental to your physical ability.

Since there is no evidence of Christian 'getting pished' or drinking 'regularly' or smoking, I think we can file this, and most of the last two or three pages, as a load of old *****.

[B.H.F.C]

The press are generally not far wrong with the fees they quote for a new signing. At the time of signing the BBC quoted “a fee in excess of £250k” and Hecky said the signing “was a statement of intent”.

You might think that people are slating him but it is relevant that he signed for a big fee, relative to Hibs. And he was expected to come in and make a big impact - that’s something the manager sign posted himself. So people are hardly being unfair when they mention the fee, even if nobody know exactly what it was. Doidge is falling short of expectations and he needs to improve.

Doidge actually said after the Celtic game that ‘it wasn’t his fault we’d paid what we had’ which would suggest it was pretty substantial.

[MWHIBBIES]

Since there is no evidence of Christian 'getting pished' or drinking 'regularly' or smoking, I think we can file this, and most of the last two or three pages, as a load of old *****.

Of course. That is why I've consistently said ''if'' he is. Seems many people have misread my posts.

[J-C]

Nothing wrong in having an occasional drink as an athlete but it's plainly obvious that they shouldn't be out on a weekly basis, especially up George St where all and sundry can see them, we've had our fair share of bevvying footballers up town after games, lets hope we don't have any in this squad.

[The_Horde]

350,000k, lol. The new hibs.net myth.

It's not a myth.

[LaMotta]

I love that people use players playing in Scotland as an example of drinking being fine, an absolute awful league with a national team that consistently look unfit and 2nd best.

You think Andy Robertson is going out regularly and getting drunk? Or smoking?
How about Andy Murray?

Its not just talent that takes these guys to the top, its professionalism as well.

A glass of wine with a nice dinner? A special occassion? Sure. Regularly drinking and getting pished, even once a month, is unprofessional and detrimental to your physical ability.

We were talking about Christian Doidge, not top class athletes :faf:

Having said that, if you think that some top English Priemier league players dont get pished now and again then your living in cloud cuckoo land.

[MWHIBBIES]

We were talking about Christian Doidge, not top class athletes :faf:

Having said that, if you think that top English Priemier league players dont get pished now and again then your living in cloud cuckoo land.

Christian Doidge is a professional athlete playing in the top 1% of his profession. He is definitely a top class athlete.

I never said the didn't. I said they shouldn't. The very best, guys like Ronaldo and Messi, Federer/Djok/Rafa, Wayne Gretzky etc do no get pished now and again. They take very good care of themselves.

[Moody Blues]

Christian Doidge is a professional athlete playing in the top 1% of his profession. He is definitely a top class athlete.

I never said the didn't. I said they shouldn't. The very best, guys like Ronaldo and Messi, Federer/Djok/Rafa, Wayne Gretzky etc do no get pished now and again. They take very good care of themselves.

Give it a rest will you. You sound like my Mrs going on and on and on about nothing.

[BILLYHIBS]

Give it a rest will you. You sound like my Mrs going on and on and on about nothing.
:agree:

........and mine!

[Hibbyradge]

https://news.sky.com/story/derby-county-welsh-international-among-two-players-charged-with-drink-driving-11820128