Loyalty Points

[Hermit Crab]

People cancelled season tickets? Really??


Nah, thats bull****.

[Iggy Pope]

Nah, thats bull****.

The latest in a long line of bull**** on the subject.

[Hermit Crab]

The latest in a long line of bull**** on the subject.


Its a very long line, folk just making things up now.

[Iggy Pope]

Its a very long line, folk just making things up now.

Wouldn’t be the sort of folks who don’t go to the away games would it :greengrin ?

[Hermit Crab]

Wouldn’t be the sort of folks who don’t go to the away games would it :greengrin ?


Couldn't be could it?

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-replace-loyalty-points-scheme-with-away-season-ticket-1-4162217

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[Danderhall Hibs]

Cheers ozy - can you paste and circle the bit about those that cancelled their ST as well please?

[BoomtownHibees]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-replace-loyalty-points-scheme-with-away-season-ticket-1-4162217

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That doesn’t say folk cancelled like your previous post pointed out

[Ozyhibby]

That doesn’t say folk cancelled like your previous post pointed out

And yet the club acted and cancelled the scheme.


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[BoomtownHibees]

And yet the club acted and cancelled the scheme.


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Well avoided

[Ozyhibby]

Well avoided

Think I covered that in post 489 in this thread.


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[BoomtownHibees]

Think I covered that in post 489 in this thread.


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I don’t know what post number it was as I’m on my phone but you said “folk cancelled their season tickets because of the loyalty scheme” (paraphrased of course)

That didn’t happen

[Iggy Pope]

Cheers ozy - can you paste and circle the bit about those that cancelled their ST as well please?

Heard it all from LD herself. Apart from the bit about ST cancellations obviously. Making things up is for the kids.

[SChibs]

That doesn’t say folk cancelled like your previous post pointed out

So people suggested they would not renew and it took some time for the ticket office to get to grips with the changes? Nothing surprising. If that is your only argument against the attendance scheme then that is poor

[Since90+2]

We must be the ****test set of fans in the country if people would not renew a season ticket if we introduced a loyalty points scheme to reward our most dedicated fans.

Either Hearts and Aberdeen fans are more dedicated and would not entertain such a thing or it's a big white lie being spun by those who simply don't want it introduced as it would mean they would have less a chance of getting a ticket for Tynecastle. Which is it?

[Eric]

Think I covered that in post 489 in this thread.


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I don't think so. Post 489 gives a good case for ST cancellations due to the existence of loyal points to be a hibs.net myth. So says the writer of Post 489:wink:

[Ozyhibby]

We must be the ****test set of fans in the country if people would not renew a season ticket if we introduced a loyalty points scheme to reward our most dedicated fans.

Either Hearts and Aberdeen fans are more dedicated and would not entertain such a thing or it's a big white lie being spun by those who simply don't want it introduced as it would mean they would have less a chance of getting a ticket for Tynecastle. Which is it?

Our most dedicated fans have an away season ticket. If that is fully subscribed then I’m fully in favour of expanding that.


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[Since90+2]

Our most dedicated fans have an away season ticket. If that is fully subscribed then I’m fully in favour of expanding that.


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I know guys who go to almost every single away game and for them not to be given some sort of priority over people who only want to go to Tynecastle is a disgrace to be honest.

The poll on here, and the much larger one on Twitter , show a clear majority of Hibs fans who have voted in favour of the introduction of a loyalty points system.

I suspect the reason you are being so vocal about this subject is that you rarely attend away games but you want a ticket for Tynecastle and a loyalty point system would disadvantage you from getting one.

[HH81]

Heard it all from LD herself. Apart from the bit about ST cancellations obviously. Making things up is for the kids.

She defo mentioned season ticket sales as I remember it. I think it was on a video interview posted on here a while back.

[Ozyhibby]

I know guys who go to almost every single away game and for them not to be given some sort of priority over people who only want to go to Tynecastle is a disgrace to be honest.

The poll on here, and the much larger one on Twitter , show a clear majority of Hibs fans who have voted in favour of the introduction of a loyalty points system.

I suspect the reason you are being so vocal about this subject is that you rarely attend away games but you want a ticket for Tynecastle and a loyalty point system would disadvantage you from getting one.

The reason I’m being so vocal on it is I’m an argumentative p****. [emoji23]
Honestly though, all through the loyalty point set up, I got tickets for Tynecastle. I had enough points as it happens. I go to less away games now because of Ozyhibby jnr’s footy commitments but I have been consistent on this issue since before it got scrapped.
If they bring it back it won’t really affect me that much.


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[Iggy Pope]

She defo mentioned season ticket sales as I remember it. I think it was on a video interview posted on here a while back.

She mentioned cancellations? Defo you say?

[Billy Whizz]

Our most dedicated fans have an away season ticket. If that is fully subscribed then I’m fully in favour of expanding that.


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Should take it up to max tickets we get for Ibrox and Celtic Park, if we can’t get the loyalty scheme back

[DH1875]

I know guys who go to almost every single away game and for them not to be given some sort of priority over people who only want to go to Tynecastle is a disgrace to be honest.The poll on here, and the much larger one on Twitter , show a clear majority of Hibs fans who have voted in favour of the introduction of a loyalty points system. I suspect the reason you are being so vocal about this subject is that you rarely attend away games but you want a ticket for Tynecastle and a loyalty point system would disadvantage you from getting one.If your going with the poll on here shows at least a 3rd of our support aren't in favour of loyalty points. The poll on twitter I know/knew nothing about so can't really comment other than I dont have twitter. Was it a strict one vote per person?

[Ozyhibby]

Should take it up to max tickets we get for Ibrox and Celtic Park, if we can’t get the loyalty scheme back

I think that would be reasonable.


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[Dancehibs]

I think that would be reasonable.


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So you want season ticket holders to get a fair crack at away tickets to season ticket holders getting zero chance of a ticket

[BoomtownHibees]

Should take it up to max tickets we get for Ibrox and Celtic Park, if we can’t get the loyalty scheme back

The only issue would be if there was a cup game with less tickets available

[Since90+2]

I think that would be reasonable.


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Surely that devalues a season ticket which is the reason you don't support a loyalty points scheme?

Season ticket holders (apart from the small number who would be on the AST scheme) would have literally no chance of a ticket for Ibrox and Celtic park.

[Ozyhibby]

I don’t think there will be a full take up of away season tickets.


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[Since90+2]

I don’t think there will be a full take up of away season tickets.


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Even if there wasn't a full take up any increase in number on the scheme would reduce the amount of tickets available to season ticket holders thus making it more difficult for them to optain a ticket. Would that not devalue the season ticket in your view?

[Danderhall Hibs]

So you want season ticket holders to get a fair crack at away tickets to season ticket holders getting zero chance of a ticket

:agree: it’s an interesting take on it.

[LancashireHibby]

The only issue would be if there was a cup game with less tickets available
With cup games we have a right to request an allocation far bigger than what we’d expect for a league game.

Increasing the size of the AST doesn’t do anything to help those who attend a significant proportion of the away games versus those who only want tickets for Tynecastle.

[BoomtownHibees]

With cup games we have a right to request an allocation far bigger than what we’d expect for a league game.

Increasing the size of the AST doesn’t do anything to help those who attend a significant proportion of the away games versus those who only want tickets for Tynecastle.

I know that but the point I was making was if we drew the likes of Dumbarton with an allocation of 3/400, then having 900 or 1000 AST wouldn’t work

[Hermit Crab]

I know that but the point I was making was if we drew the likes of Dumbarton with an allocation of 3/400, then having 900 or 1000 AST wouldn’t work


Dumbarton allocate 800 to away fans.

[Argylehibby]

With cup games we have a right to request an allocation far bigger than what we’d expect for a league game.

Increasing the size of the AST doesn’t do anything to help those who attend a significant proportion of the away games versus those who only want tickets for Tynecastle.

How many tickets would we get if we were to play Albion Rovers at Cliftonhill? It's not the big club that's the issue in cup games.

Can those who argue against loyalty points yet see no issue with an AST explain what the difference is? Seems to me that one is a closed shop needing an existing member to give up their right while the other gives everyone a chance of reaching the points needed to get the big match tickets. Loyalty points the cut off point in terms of points needed for a ticket at Ibrox can be set higher than Tynecastle and at a point that still gives season ticket holders the chance of getting a ticket.

[Billy Whizz]

I know that but the point I was making was if we drew the likes of Dumbarton with an allocation of 3/400, then having 900 or 1000 AST wouldn’t work

For me saying we should have 900 or so away season tickets holders, was just a reply to the many posts on this thread

If we were to give 900 the opportunity, it would just hand money into the smaller opposition teams pockets

[Iggy Pope]

Dumbarton allocate 800 to away fans.

If I remember right Dumbarton was one of the games back then where loyalty points were fairly crucial.
Pre-AST of course.

[LancashireHibby]

I know that but the point I was making was if we drew the likes of Dumbarton with an allocation of 3/400, then having 900 or 1000 AST wouldn’t work
Apologies, you’re absolutely right, hadn’t thought of that. A game like that though would be another scramble where loyalty points would be hugely advantageous IMO.

[Hermit Crab]

How many tickets would we get if we were to play Albion Rovers at Cliftonhill? It's not the big club that's the issue in cup games.

Can those who argue against loyalty points yet see no issue with an AST explain what the difference is? Seems to me that one is a closed shop needing an existing member to give up their right while the other gives everyone a chance of reaching the points needed to get the big match tickets. Loyalty points the cut off point in terms of points needed for a ticket at Ibrox can be set higher than Tynecastle and at a point that still gives season ticket holders the chance of getting a ticket.


Last time we played them we played the match at Hamilton. Won 1-4 as well IIRC

[Billy Whizz]

Last time we played them we played the match at Hamilton. Won 1-4 as well IIRC

Not going to happen, they were knocked out the Scottish Cup yesterday

[Hermit Crab]

Not going to happen, they were knocked out the Scottish Cup yesterday


Thats right, they sacked their manager yesterday as well.

[Jonnyboy]

Thats right, they sacked their manager yesterday as well.

Ex Hibs player too

[tamig]

Last time we played them we played the match at Hamilton. Won 1-4 as well IIRC

The simple point being made is what happens if we play a smaller club with a smaller allocation of tickets where that number of tickets is less than the number of away ST holders? In the absence of a loyalty scheme. A lottery?

[tamig]

Ex Hibs player too

He could go down as one of the signings that didn’t really work out. He scored for fun until he arrived at ER. I’m sure we tried to sign him when he was in his prime though.

[Jonnyboy]

He could go down as one of the signings that didn’t really work out. He scored for fun until he arrived at ER. I’m sure we tried to sign him when he was in his prime though.

Correct on all points :aok:

Scored barrowloads at St J and when he came to us he'd lost the barrow :greengrin